18/19 HAL Round 8 | Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory | Sun 13th Dec 2018 500pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 8 Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 39 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 8, Glory Wins - 23, Drawn - 8


In Newcastle – 20 matches.
Jets Wins - 5, Glory Wins - 11, Drawn - 4
In Perth - 19 matches
Jets Wins - 3, Glory Wins - 12, Drawn - 4

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9215
Average Away A-League Crowd - 8879

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 43, Glory - 76
In Newcastle -
Jets – 23, Glory - 38

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 13, Glory - 24

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 83 (78 yellow, 5 red), Glory 62 (57 yellow, 5 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LDWLW (7 point from last 15)
Glory - WWWDD (11 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Ronald Vargas (2)
Glory – Chris Ikonomidis (5)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 0 - Perth Glory 2 (Castro 9' pen, Taggart 27') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 26, Season 2017/18

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 26

Newcastle JetsPerth Glory
Jack DuncanLiam Reddy
Jason HoffmanScott Neville
Ben KantarovskiShane Lowry
Nikolai Topor-StanleyAlex Grant
Ivan VujicaJoseph Mills
Steven UgarkovicNeil Kilkenny
Nick CowburnXavi Torres
Ronald VargasJoel Chianese
Riley McGreeDiego Castro
Dimitri PetratosAndrew Keogh
Roy O'DonovanAdam Taggart



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Haliti 13’, Brockie 54’, Petrovski 68’Penalty, Petrovski 69’) – Glory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Midweek Round 1, Season 2010/11, 10/02/2011.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 (Trifunovic 14’) – Glory 6 (Harold 24', Castro 45', Mullen 48' o.g., Harold 54', Grant 74', Castro 88'), Round 16, Season 2015/16 at Hunter Stadium, 24/01/2016.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (6)
Glory - Jamie Harnwell (7)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss77006300000
3Jason Hoffman66054741120
4Nigel Boogaard77006300010
5Ben Kantarovski64213690010
6Steven Ugarkovic77025940020
7Dimitri Petratos77006301300
8Jair Edmundo66064181000
10Ronald Vargas77016142000
11Mitch Austin4040680100
13Ivan Vujica41301380000
14Kaine Sheppard41311361010
16Nick Cowburn51402031000
17Daniel Georgievski77026120130
22Lachlan Jackson66024990010
23Matthew Ridenton53213500010
32Angus Thurgate3030430000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley77006300110



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Tony Popovic - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (3 wins, 6 drawn and 7 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 4 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)

Perth Glory Coach Record – Tony Popovic 53% win ratio (8 wins, 4 drawn, 3 losses)




TALKING POINTS:

General

The Jets last match was their 350th A-League fixture. Their record in those games is 116 wins, 82 draws and 152 defeats.
The Jets haven't experienced a win against the Glory at home since November 2011.
Perth have scored in 14 consecutive A-League matches against the Jets.
Glory have scored the first goal in the last 8 fixtures between these two teams and 10 in the last 11.



Key Stats from Previous Round

No outfield player had a passing accuracy below 70% during the last match.



Players

Last week Kaine Sheppard became the 82nd player to score for the club in the A-League.
Last week Jair became the 83rd player to score for the club in the A-League.

[plague]

Jets to put on their typical turgid performance whenever Perrh come to town.

Billy Mehmet and Gary McGary to both get hat tricks.

Loose 5-0.

[Jeterpool]

Jets to put on their typical turgid performance whenever Perrh come to town.

Billy Mehmet and Gary McGary to both get hat tricks.

Loose 5-0.

Bobby Despotovski is good for at least one

[Bon]

Bloody Jamie Harnwell... Always scoring headers against us..

[Jeterpool]

Bloody Jamie Harnwell... Always scoring headers against us..

How could I forget him.

[Bon]

How could I forget him.

You didn't..
He is in the write-up underneath Lord Griff..

[The Dunster]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Gary+Van+Egmond+League+Rd+11+Glory+v+Jets+nika0HpB ZIjl.jpg

Why do we even play this game? Give Perth the 3 points and take the week off to prepare for our next game.

[380]

Definitely not Couscous's better side

[Bon]

Definitely not Couscous's better side

Haha.. I reckon its one of the greatest things Couscous ever did!

[Hunter403]

We'll turn it around this week

[MFKS]

This is a nailed on Jets win

Guaran ****ing Teed

Put your house on it

Jets will come out and beat the side they never ever beat
Jets will come out and give Glory their first loss of the season

This is exactly what this club is about

Because they will knock Glory off and every **** in Newy will be back on the bandwagon about going all the way and the cunce will then go and lose to the Gypos

This is exactly what we do best

How much we paying for the Win??

Anything over 1.01 Tear their arms off

[Couscous]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Gary+Van+Egmond+League+Rd+11+Glory+v+Jets+nika0HpB ZIjl.jpg

Why do we even play this game? Give Perth the 3 points and take the week off to prepare for our next game.

That was a sh|t day. Almost won in Perth after almost never winning. Poor penalty decision allowed them to draw in injury time, from memory.

[StannyCFCJET]

Chance of big storms, Heavy rain already, The people of Newcastle have their excuse already

[MFKS]

Chance of big storms, Heavy rain already, The people of Newcastle have their excuse already

Bullshit

Puddle is playing up front so no Hoffman

Another MoM performance coming up from our 2nd greatest ever player

[StannyCFCJET]

Bullshit

Puddle is playing up front so no Hoffman

Another MoM performance coming up from our 2nd greatest ever player

Doesnt change the fact the crowd will be small

[MFKS]

Doesnt change the fact the crowd will be small

Who gives a **** about the crowd

Less plastics here

Good for the game

[StannyCFCJET]

Who gives a **** about the crowd

Less plastics here

Good for the game
Bigger crowd always better. Also means more money for the team

[plague]

Sheppard getting a hat trick today then Roy is available next week and Ernie will pick Jackson up front.

[belchardo]

Vujica should look for another club. Ernie clearly hates him.

[ForeverRed]

2 nil to moss

[StannyCFCJET]

Vujica should look for another club. Ernie clearly hates him.

Waste of a sub

[belchardo]

How is this team leading the comp?

How have they not been booked for time wasting?

[mic22]

Dimi, ronny and jair can't score unless they have an open goal FFS.
We should be up 4-2.
Boogs and moss, wtf?
Why do we have to be so Newcastle jets every time?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Waste of a sub

To be fair, we ain’t got much to change a game on our bench...may as well make the sub early.


Difference is the keepers today. Miss gives up a soft pen and flaps at a soft loopy header. Reddy is pulling out saves out of his arse albeit mostly at him.

We are creating chances though. We seem to be playing all over them.

[belchardo]

2 nil to moss

Two good assists from boogard.

[MFKS]

Waste of a sub

No it wasnt

Vujica was pants in defence and offering nothing in attack

Deserved to be hooked

Mind you so does Boogaard and Moss

13 shots to 3 and down 2 -0 @ HT

Classic Jets really

[StannyCFCJET]

No it wasnt

Vujica was pants in defence and offering nothing in attack

Deserved to be hooked

Mind you so does Boogaard and Moss

13 shots to 3 and down 2 -0 @ HT

Classic Jets really

Sorry he didnt look that bad to me

[plague]

Gypo Arnie gonna pick Chianese and Ikonomidis over Petratos for Asian Cup debacle.

[StannyCFCJET]

Lack of attacking options but dont pick Austin. Ernie plz explain

[plague]

Santalab gonna score 6

[The Dunster]

Just got back from riding in a nasty storm with shit falling everywhere and limited visibility.
Still more enjoyable than watching the jets.

[belchardo]

We've looked so much better since ridenton came on for shepperd and hoff went up front.

End of sarcasm.

[MFKS]

Finally pre season is over and next week we get a competitive fixture

[plague]

Finally pre season is over and next week we get a competitive fixture

this.
Ernie has tinkered enough in the friendlies.
time to get it sorted.

[StannyCFCJET]

What has happened to Stevie UG has he reached his early 30s like Gerrard did and turned to shit?

[plague]

What has happened to Stevie UG has he reached his early 30s like Gerrard did and turned to shit?

huh?
best player on the park tonight.

[plague]

id be really concerned if i was a Perth fan.
they are garbage, but getting results.
and just like Sydney last year, they will run into an actual good team at the end of the year and get smoked.
no way they win this.

id rather have money on the Jets than the Glory to win the GF right now.

[MFKS]

this.
Ernie has tinkered enough in the friendlies.
time to get it sorted.

Think today was a good hit out

Luck deserted us
Shit refereee helped them from Min 1 to 90

Abysmal keeping cost us 2 goals
Abysmal Finishing cost us a hundred goals

Between the boxes we dominated

Putting a striker on like Roy next week will also be a bonus

Couldnt have prepared better for next Sunday if we tried

[plague]

Think today was a good hit out

Luck deserted us
Shit refereee helped them from Min 1 to 90

Abysmal keeping cost us 2 goals
Abysmal Finishing cost us a hundred goals

Between the boxes we dominated

Putting a striker on like Roy next week will also be a bonus

Couldnt have prepared better for next Sunday if we tried

i love it when we are in harmony.
its much better than all those times when you are wrong.

We play like that next week, improve our back 2, and Roy has a revenge game we put 8 past those stinking Gypos.

[StannyCFCJET]

huh?
best player on the park tonight.

Ok you need a night off mate

[Tommyjet]

No it wasnt

Vujica was pants in defence and offering nothing in attack

Deserved to be hooked

Mind you so does Boogaard and Moss

13 shots to 3 and down 2 -0 @ HT

Classic Jets really

Wrong

[plague]

Ok you need a night off mate

what did he do wrong?
thought he was his usual busy self.
Him and Kanta owned the middle. Made plenty of space for Dimi and Vargas.

[Couscous]

Out of the six! 👍

[Couscous]

Why do we have to be so Newcastle jets every time?

Because we are the Newcastle Jets.

[StannyCFCJET]

what did he do wrong?
thought he was his usual busy self.
Him and Kanta owned the middle. Made plenty of space for Dimi and Vargas.

Cant shoot and way too slow on the ball, Also lost the ball too many times be spending to long on it or by a poor first touch

[MFKS]

i love it when we are in harmony.
its much better than all those times when you are wrong.

We play like that next week, improve our back 2, and Roy has a revenge game we put 8 past those stinking Gypos.

We play like that next week and we wont let in 2

The Gypos aint that good

[MFKS]

what did he do wrong?
thought he was his usual busy self.
Him and Kanta owned the middle. Made plenty of space for Dimi and Vargas.

**** Vargas

The bloke is the most over rated player in the comp

All the good shit he does is on half way and not in the final 3rd like it should be

His touch in the final 3rd is honking and his shooting is Hoffman like

For the big $$ we pay him we get very little value from him in finished product

This talk about him being the best no 10 in the comp FMD

Taking the piss

That game was there for him to dominate and he offered.......

**** All

Time he was benched

[plague]

Although I dont think he should be benched, your point about his touch composure and quality in the final 3rd is legit.
My gosh it was like he is a totally different player.

[Jetmaster]

Cant shoot and way too slow on the ball, Also lost the ball too many times be spending to long on it or by a poor first touch

With Stanny here. Ugar has been easily bustled off the ball lately and shows a lack of strength. He has been off with some of his passing and his attempts at shooting have been abysmal.

Hasn't been honking but needs to do better.

[plague]

To be fair to Moss, that gypo in between the sticks for Adelaide is way worse.

[MFKS]

Although I dont think he should be benched, your point about his touch composure and quality in the final 3rd is legit.
My gosh it was like he is a totally different player.

On another note your mate Trash Boy Jair looked a lot better today

Still at Leroy George levels of trash though but he starting to look like he isnt in a 3 legged race

[380]

Be careful what you wish for with the Uga criticism. Last thing we need is to provide Ernire with reason to replace him with that useless signing from across the ditch in Ridenton. For the life of me i still don't know why we signed him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Be careful what you wish for with the Uga criticism. Last thing we need is to provide Ernire with reason to replace him with that useless signing from across the ditch in Ridenton. For the life of me i still don't know why we signed him.

Cowburn and Kanta should be our pairing until one drops form or Uga finds his feet again

[turbojetfireV8]

Ridenton played even worse than he did last week, what does Ernie see in the guy? Him and Jackson need to be moved on at the first possible opportunity...

[380]

Ridenton played even worse than he did last week, what does Ernie see in the guy? Him and Jackson need to be moved on at the first possible opportunity...

I look forward to seeing what donkey we sign from Wellington for next season, I am sure it is written into Ernie's contract that he reserves the right to bring in at least one a season not worth two bob.

[mic22]

Don't want to sound blasphemous but... really, what is Ronny offering to the team right now?
As an attacking player, in 8 games he had scored 2 goals (a good one with Adelaide, and a sitter thanks to dimi). That's it. He's lovely to watch in midfield, so elegant, then... Shocking lack of composure, no assists, some evades... I was expecting a lot more from him.
We can't shoot from outside the box, we haven't scored a direct free kick since Hoole (fmd).
Let's see what St. Roy will pull off his magic hat...

[sorefootballer]

Cbd

[Frodo]

Fold the club.

[belchardo]

such a strange game.

the whole way through the game i thought we were playing pretty good football, just a bit unlucky, but at the same time i thought we were playing like garbage and it was only the terrible football of perth that was making us look semi-competent.

[Jeterpool]

id be really concerned if i was a Perth fan.
they are garbage, but getting results.
and just like Sydney last year, they will run into an actual good team at the end of the year and get smoked.
no way they win this.

id rather have money on the Jets than the Glory to win the GF right now.

I said to my mate, when the ball is bouncing for you, it's bouncing. It did for us last season and it is for them right now.

We should be disappointed not to have come away with something tonight.

[Jeterpool]

Don't want to sound blasphemous but... really, what is Ronny offering to the team right now?
As an attacking player, in 8 games he had scored 2 goals (a good one with Adelaide, and a sitter thanks to dimi). That's it. He's lovely to watch in midfield, so elegant, then... Shocking lack of composure, no assists, some evades... I was expecting a lot more from him.
We can't shoot from outside the box, we haven't scored a direct free kick since Hoole (fmd).
Let's see what St. Roy will pull off his magic hat...

:wtf:

Ronny's touch and turn creates so much forward impetus for us. He's the best player in this squad by far. he draws 2 or 3 defenders onto him and still skins them.

[Macca]

Stevie has never been able to shoot, this is not something new. It would be nice if he could develop that part of his game, but if not he's still valuable.
In my mind Ronny is usually good in the final third and has been let down by others. That wasn't the case last night, there was a heap of heavy or bad touches by him in and around the box which was unusual I thought. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he does end up struggling with end product, drop him in alongside Kanta or UG and let him own the midfield.

Jair looked better for the goal last week, backed himself to have a couple shots and was unlucky not to have a goal or two to his name. Dimi threatening as well. Unlike the rest of the season, front two thirds of the team exceeded expectations while the backline let us down.

If that's the best team in the comp then we have nothing to fear.

[StannyCFCJET]

:wtf:

Ronny's touch and turn creates so much forward impetus for us. He's the best player in this squad by far. he draws 2 or 3 defenders onto him and still skins them.

But he doesnt shoot or provide a killer pass for someone to score which as an attacking marquee should be what we judge him on, So Mic is spot on

[StannyCFCJET]

Stevie has never been able to shoot, this is not something new. It would be nice if he could develop that part of his game, but if not he's still valuable.
In my mind Ronny is usually good in the final third and has been let down by others. That wasn't the case last night, there was a heap of heavy or bad touches by him in and around the box which was unusual I thought. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he does end up struggling with end product, drop him in alongside Kanta or UG and let him own the midfield.

Jair looked better for the goal last week, backed himself to have a couple shots and was unlucky not to have a goal or two to his name. Dimi threatening as well. Unlike the rest of the season, front two thirds of the team exceeded expectations while the backline let us down.

If that's the best team in the comp then we have nothing to fear.

If thats the best we can offer, were not making the 6

[belchardo]

I said to my mate, when the ball is bouncing for you, it's bouncing.

the ball was certainly not bouncing for our fullbacks last night.

[Jeterpool]

But he doesnt shoot or provide a killer pass for someone to score which as an attacking marquee should be what we judge him on, So Mic is spot on

He doesn't shoot?? he's down for having 20 shots this season so far, 7 of which have been on target. Dimi, by comparison has had 32, with 5 being on target - 15 % accuracy. Which would you prefer? Last time I looked, Ronny was our top scorer this season so far as well

As for "key passes", which is the closest piece of data I can find to match "killer pass", Ronny has 21, Dimi has 20.

Passing accuracy in the attacking half for Ronny 77.8%, 71.8% for Dimi. Successful dribbles - Ronny has 21, Dimi 8.

For me, Ronny is doing what we need him to do - just no prick will put in the net! I reckon if he could pass it to himself we'd be sitting pretty right now.

I don't understand the Ronny bashing - the bloke is probably the second classiest player to have ever worn the shirt behind Griff. And remember, it was Griff that recruited him!!! Are we saying that Griff is wrong? I'm certainly not

[StannyCFCJET]

He doesn't shoot?? he's down for having 20 shots this season so far, 7 of which have been on target. Dimi, by comparison has had 32, with 5 being on target - 15 % accuracy. Which would you prefer? Last time I looked, Ronny was our top scorer this season so far as well

As for "key passes", which is the closest piece of data I can find to match "killer pass", Ronny has 21, Dimi has 20.

Passing accuracy in the attacking half for Ronny 77.8%, 71.8% for Dimi. Successful dribbles - Ronny has 21, Dimi 8.

For me, Ronny is doing what we need him to do - just no prick will put in the net! I reckon if he could pass it to himself we'd be sitting pretty right now.

I don't understand the Ronny bashing - the bloke is probably the second classiest player to have ever worn the shirt behind Griff. And remember, it was Griff that recruited him!!! Are we saying that Griff is wrong? I'm certainly not

Griff signed Jair who has taken till Roy is pretty much back to be match fit and somewhat firing so yeah Griff was wrong, It happens. And Ronny when he does shoot mostly its a poor effort. Id like to see him be more direct and charge into the box where he win win alot of pens with his quick feet

[380]

Ronnie is a victim of the clubs management to gamble on our seasons success on minus 8 rounds of the competition. Nobody will ever convince me when they started planning for this season and for Roy's absence there was not an element of oh well its a top 6 for the finals in a ten team comp so she'll be right.

There can be no other reasonable explanation for attempting to put your striking options on Hoff and persisting for so long with it. Pittiful piss take by the clubs hierarchy bordering on insulting. The sort of shit you would expect from Gypo ownership and management.

I posted weeks ago that no matter how good a player or pro you are if you for one moment think the clubs not fair dinkum at any given point in time that attitude will trickle down to some of the players. Sadly the players have picked up on the who gives a fig for the first 8 rounds and is showing in some performances. Ronnies frustration was clear to see for all several weeks ago. Having to track back as far as 2 dads and Boogs just to create something week after week, yeh he be pissed along with a few other crucial players at management i am tipping.

And before all you Hoff fans flame me this is not a Hoff bash so ask yourselves how many other clubs would plan to play Hoff at the point like we did and there is your answer to our clubs poor performance in the front office.

[Jeterpool]

where he win win alot of pens with his quick feet

Wishful thinking, hey mate. Wishful thinking...

[StannyCFCJET]

Wishful thinking, hey mate. Wishful thinking...

Not really when you see his ability and how aleague defenders defend.

[Jeterpool]

Not really when you see his ability and how aleague defenders defend.

NOt so much that - more how A-League referees ref :rof:

[StannyCFCJET]

NOt so much that - more how A-League referees ref :rof:

As long as it isnt that clown Lucas

[baldrick]

:wtf:

Ronny's touch and turn creates so much forward impetus for us. He's the best player in this squad by far. he draws 2 or 3 defenders onto him and still skins them.

I could even be persuaded that Ronny is the best Jets player ever. Apart from Griff of course..

[Tommyjet]

He doesn't shoot?? he's down for having 20 shots this season so far, 7 of which have been on target. Dimi, by comparison has had 32, with 5 being on target - 15 % accuracy. Which would you prefer? Last time I looked, Ronny was our top scorer this season so far as well

As for "key passes", which is the closest piece of data I can find to match "killer pass", Ronny has 21, Dimi has 20.

Passing accuracy in the attacking half for Ronny 77.8%, 71.8% for Dimi. Successful dribbles - Ronny has 21, Dimi 8.

For me, Ronny is doing what we need him to do - just no prick will put in the net! I reckon if he could pass it to himself we'd be sitting pretty right now.

I don't understand the Ronny bashing - the bloke is probably the second classiest player to have ever worn the shirt behind Griff. And remember, it was Griff that recruited him!!! Are we saying that Griff is wrong? I'm certainly not

Great stats and thanks for providing that dose of reality and clear thinking that is obviously missing from some viewers.

[mic22]

But he doesnt shoot or provide a killer pass for someone to score which as an attacking marquee should be what we judge him on, So Mic is spot on

To be fair, he provided a killer pass 8 seconds into the game (which Jair butchered imo, would have been an entirely different game).
And there could have been a penalty on his name, too late in the game anyway.
I'm not saying he's a bad player, for some reason his productivity up front has been low.
Perhaps there's too much pressure on him from the opposition, and not enough support in midfield?
Still looks like chemistry with Dimi is work in progress.

[StannyCFCJET]

To be fair, he provided a killer pass 8 seconds into the game (which Jair butchered imo, would have been an entirely different game).
And there could have been a penalty on his name, too late in the game anyway.
I'm not saying he's a bad player, for some reason his productivity up front has been low.
Perhaps there's too much pressure on him from the opposition, and not enough support in midfield?
Still looks like chemistry with Dimi is work in progress.

That wasnt a pen but it was a foul

[plague]

Ronnie is a victim of the clubs management to gamble on our seasons success on minus 8 rounds of the competition. Nobody will ever convince me when they started planning for this season and for Roy's absence there was not an element of oh well its a top 6 for the finals in a ten team comp so she'll be right.

There can be no other reasonable explanation for attempting to put your striking options on Hoff and persisting for so long with it. Pittiful piss take by the clubs hierarchy bordering on insulting. The sort of shit you would expect from Gypo ownership and management.

I posted weeks ago that no matter how good a player or pro you are if you for one moment think the clubs not fair dinkum at any given point in time that attitude will trickle down to some of the players. Sadly the players have picked up on the who gives a fig for the first 8 rounds and is showing in some performances. Ronnies frustration was clear to see for all several weeks ago. Having to track back as far as 2 dads and Boogs just to create something week after week, yeh he be pissed along with a few other crucial players at management i am tipping.

And before all you Hoff fans flame me this is not a Hoff bash so ask yourselves how many other clubs would plan to play Hoff at the point like we did and there is your answer to our clubs poor performance in the front office.

Your name must be 380 because that's how many times you were correct in the post.

[mic22]

Ronnie is a victim of...

After the first 2 games i thought there was some sort of strategy in place, with the idea of not peaking too soon into the season - which makes sense in this competition format, also considering a potential acl qualification.
But even in that case, playing for 7 games with a non-striker defies logic Sheppard, Thurgate, even Kosta would have been better alternatives. Worst case, they would have gained some experience.

[StannyCFCJET]

After the first 2 games i thought there was some sort of strategy in place, with the idea of not peaking too soon into the season - which makes sense in this competition format, also considering a potential acl qualification.
But even in that case, playing for 7 games with a non-striker defies logic Sheppard, Thurgate, even Kosta would have been better alternatives. Worst case, they would have gained some experience.

Thurgate isnt a striker and Kosta should've been let go last season

[Mark325]

what was ernie thinking with his substitutions? apart from hoff none of the players on the bench are attacking minded at all and even hoff ain't that great of an attacking weapon, we are trailing 2-0 and we hooked off both players who scored last game for players who can hardly play football let alone put a ball in the net. as of next week, assuming champness can come back into the squad we should have a bench consisting of

sheppard
champness
johnny k
hoff
italiano

over time if need be you can swap in dudes like thurgate or austin but really they are our best crop of players that aren't in the starting XI, or if Merrick isn't high on Vujica at lb then put hoff at right and Georges (who played his best game all season on the weekend) at left

[StannyCFCJET]

what was ernie thinking with his substitutions? apart from hoff none of the players on the bench are attacking minded at all and even hoff ain't that great of an attacking weapon, we are trailing 2-0 and we hooked off both players who scored last game for players who can hardly play football let alone put a ball in the net. as of next week, assuming champness can come back into the squad we should have a bench consisting of

sheppard
champness
johnny k
hoff
italiano

over time if need be you can swap in dudes like thurgate or austin but really they are our best crop of players that aren't in the starting XI, or if Merrick isn't high on Vujica at lb then put hoff at right and Georges (who played his best game all season on the weekend) at left

Champness is not back till Mid January, Sheppard deserves to keep starting, Roy can earn back our trust from the bench

[Frodo]

Champness is not back till Mid January, Sheppard deserves to keep starting, Roy can earn back our trust from the bench

Every single player in that team and 99% of fans want Roy to get back on that pitch and start banging them in for fun. Watch what happens now that we have a striker who knows how to play in that position.

[StannyCFCJET]

Every single player in that team and 99% of fans want Roy to get back on that pitch and start banging them in for fun. Watch what happens now that we have a striker who knows how to play in that position.

Id say Sheppard has done a good job

[MFKS]

He doesn't shoot?? he's down for having 20 shots this season so far, 7 of which have been on target. Dimi, by comparison has had 32, with 5 being on target - 15 % accuracy. Which would you prefer? Last time I looked, Ronny was our top scorer this season so far as well

As for "key passes", which is the closest piece of data I can find to match "killer pass", Ronny has 21, Dimi has 20.

Passing accuracy in the attacking half for Ronny 77.8%, 71.8% for Dimi. Successful dribbles - Ronny has 21, Dimi 8.

For me, Ronny is doing what we need him to do - just no prick will put in the net! I reckon if he could pass it to himself we'd be sitting pretty right now.

I don't understand the Ronny bashing - the bloke is probably the second classiest player to have ever worn the shirt behind Griff. And remember, it was Griff that recruited him!!! Are we saying that Griff is wrong? I'm certainly not

Disagree

Dimi shoots all the time from 25 yards probably too much in a lot of ways and every time he gets a free kick he has a lash

So to contrast the shots between the pair isnt comparing apples and oranges

As for the quality of his finishing it is at times Fellani like and not.really acceptable for a bloke on his money


Ronny needs to be doing.much more in the front 3rd

For all his flicks and evades how many of them are in the front 3rd??

Skinning some bloke 45 yards out or on the sideline achieves little

The bloke is in the team to provide us the x factor in the front 3rd not on half way

He isnt doing what he is here for

When he starts doing these flicks and evades in the front 3rd then we be going a lot better in front of goal.

If Ronny was doing what we need him to do then we dont have 7 goals in 8 games to our name

You can blame our lack of a striker but he isnt controlling the game for us like he should be

No dispute he is a classy player but the bloke isnt exactly effective for us

[MFKS]

Champness is not back till Mid January, Sheppard deserves to keep starting, Roy can earn back our trust from the bench

No he dont.

He starts Sunday

His energy up front and his point to prove isnt needed on the bench

He is also a better striker than Shephard so he starts

[StannyCFCJET]

No he dont.

He starts Sunday

His energy up front and his point to prove isnt needed on the bench

He is also a better striker than Shephard so he starts

Nope he ****ed up, Sit on the bench and earn back our trust

[sammydog]

Nope he ****ed up, Sit on the bench and earn back our trust

He has my trust.

Get him up front.

[Frodo]

Id say Sheppard has done a good job

I'd say I have an above average sized penis but both our statements would still be incorrect.


Roy walks back into this team whether we were top of ladder or last. If you can't understand why then no one can help you.

[Mark325]

Champness is not back till Mid January, Sheppard deserves to keep starting, Roy can earn back our trust from the bench

then thurgate or austin get on the bench and not cowburn or ridenton

also we definitely need to start Roy, no way is sheppard starting. this is one of the easiest game we'll be getting all year and gives roy a good chance to possibly bang in some goals for fun so lets have him start and hopefully get some momentum

[Frodo]

Disagree

Dimi shoots all the time from 25 yards probably too much in a lot of ways and every time he gets a free kick he has a lash

So to contrast the shots between the pair isnt comparing apples and oranges

As for the quality of his finishing it is at times Fellani like and not.really acceptable for a bloke on his money


Ronny needs to be doing.much more in the front 3rd

For all his flicks and evades how many of them are in the front 3rd??

Skinning some bloke 45 yards out or on the sideline achieves little

The bloke is in the team to provide us the x factor in the front 3rd not on half way

He isnt doing what he is here for

When he starts doing these flicks and evades in the front 3rd then we be going a lot better in front of goal.

If Ronny was doing what we need him to do then we dont have 7 goals in 8 games to our name

You can blame our lack of a striker but he isnt controlling the game for us like he should be

No dispute he is a classy player but the bloke isnt exactly effective for us

He is playing with some very average players and one very out of form ex socceroo. Cut the man some slack with the tools he has to work with.

But, once we have a defence that can actually help out further up the pitch, a striker who can hold the ball up as well as actually do something with it once we have it in the box and Dimi finds some form again then you can have an actual go at his impact. Right now he is our best. If he isn't good enough for you then tough titties cause there's no one on the bench that is gonna do a better job.

[plague]

Nope he ****ed up, Sit on the bench and earn back our trust

yo man, this isnt how football works.

[Superdylan]

Roy has to start on Sunday. Will take pressure off dimi and ronnie.

[plague]

i want Roy to start, i think Sheppard has done a good job, but his best isnt as good as Roys best.

One thing to add.
I'd say Roys 3 biggest/most hyped up games for us last year were Gypos Rd1, Sydney RAAF round and the GF.
In one he scored 54 goals, the other 2 he lost his head.

Hopefully old Ernie plays things real cool this week with him, maybe no 'thunder and lightning' speeches as they leave the sheds.

[MFKS]

i want Roy to start, i think Sheppard has done a good job, but his best isnt as good as Roys best.

One thing to add.
I'd say Roys 3 biggest/most hyped up games for us last year were Gypos Rd1, Sydney RAAF round and the GF.
In one he scored 54 goals, the other 2 he lost his head.

Hopefully old Ernie plays things real cool this week with him, maybe no 'thunder and lightning' speeches as they leave the sheds.
**** Off

Bert needs to have these guys like a cat on a hot tin roof this week ready to explode on Sunday at 5:01pm

Roy needs to be also put on notice and wound up appropriately

Either to score some goals or layeth the smackdown on a Gypo

Either are deeds worthy of greatness

Who will ever forget minute 1 of the F3 derby wjen Kitto knocked the Gypo out??
We apparently scored but that was irrelevant to Kitto knocking a Gypo out

I will take another 10 weeks of no Roy if he takes out a Gypo legally or illegally this week

[MFKS]

He is playing with some very average players and one very out of form ex socceroo. Cut the man some slack with the tools he has to work with.

But, once we have a defence that can actually help out further up the pitch, a striker who can hold the ball up as well as actually do something with it once we have it in the box and Dimi finds some form again then you can have an actual go at his impact. Right now he is our best. If he isn't good enough for you then tough titties cause there's no one on the bench that is gonna do a better job.

This is the Jets their all ****ing average players

No excuses
His form isnt good enough in the front 3rd

[StannyCFCJET]

**** Off

Bert needs to have these guys like a cat on a hot tin roof this week ready to explode on Sunday at 5:01pm

Roy needs to be also put on notice and wound up appropriately

Either to score some goals or layeth the smackdown on a Gypo

Either are deeds worthy of greatness

Who will ever forget minute 1 of the F3 derby wjen Kitto knocked the Gypo out??
We apparently scored but that was irrelevant to Kitto knocking a Gypo out

I will take another 10 weeks of no Roy if he takes out a Gypo legally or illegally this week

You will take no finals again then?

[turbojetfireV8]

Roy needs to be out there to score goals, not to pretend to be Conor MacGregor, the only smashing we want outta him is into the back of a gyppo net, if he takes collateral gyppo damage out along the way however that's fine... :popcorn:

[MFKS]

You will take no finals again then?

Finals ??

Who ****ing cares

All that matters is our 3 game League versus these cunce and the ladder position after Rd 27 and how far we are in front of the Gypos by

Anything else is largely irrelevant

I place utmost importance on this game and the other 2 versus the Gypos that is all that I define the season by