18/19 HAL Round 10 | Newcastle Jets v Adelaide United | Sun 30th Dec 2018 7pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 10 Newcastle Jets v Adelaide United

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 41 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 13, United Wins - 16, Drawn - 12


In Newcastle – 18 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, United Wins - 5, Drawn - 4
In Adelaide - 23 matches
Jets Wins - 4, United Wins - 11, Drawn - 8

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9864
Average Away A-League Crowd - 9621

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 43, United - 55
In Newcastle -
Jets – 21, United - 16

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 19, United - 17

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 107 (104 yellow, 3 red), United 68 (65 yellow, 3 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - WLWLW (9 point from last 15)
United - DLLWW (7 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Ronald Vargas (3)
United – Craig Goodwin (3)

Last Result -
#N/A

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Round 2

Newcastle JetsAdelaide United
Glen MossPaul Izzo
Daniel GeorgievskiMichael Marrone
Nigel BoogaardJordan Elsey
Nikolai Topor-StanleyMichael Jakobsen
Lachlan JacksonScott Galloway
Steven UgarkovicIsaias
Matthew RidentonVince Lia
Ronald VargasKen Ilso
Jason HoffmanCraig Goodwin
Dimitri PetratosRyan Strain
Jair EduardoBen Halloran



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Kemp 12’og, Carle 22’, Zelic 68’, Carle 89’) – Adelaide 2 (Valkanis 38, Corbo 67’og) at Hindmarsh Stadium, Round 8, Season 2005/06, 14/10/2005.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Adelaide 7 (Djite 2’, 54’, Carrusca 23’, 28’, Boogaard 35’, Cirio 70’, Isais 90+3’) at Hindmarsh Stadium, A-League Season 2014/15 Round 15, 24/01/2015.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths, Nick Carle, Mark Bridge, Matt Thompson, Andrew Nabbout, Ben Kantarovski (3)
United - Marcelo Carrusca (6)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss99008100010
3Jason Hoffman87156172130
4Nigel Boogaard99008100030
5Ben Kantarovski86215490010
6Steven Ugarkovic99027740020
7Dimitri Petratos99008101300
8Jair Eduardo88085661100
9Roy O'Donovan1101850000
10Ronald Vargas99027933000
11Mitch Austin4040680100
13Ivan Vujica52311750000
14Kaine Sheppard62422181110
16Nick Cowburn61502781000
17Daniel Georgievski99027920130
22Lachlan Jackson66024990010
23Matthew Ridenton73414200010
32Angus Thurgate4040440000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley99008100110



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 4 matches
Ernie Merrick - 2 wins, Marco Kurz - 1 win, 1 draw

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 4 matches (2 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss = 50% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (5 wins, 7 drawn and 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (2 wins, 2 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Adelaide United Coach Record – Marco Kurz 33% win ratio (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses)

[plague]

48 degrees.
Beer will be warm before you even get back to your seat.
Adelaide will tear us a new ass.
We will respond by kicking crap out of Isias.

We suck.

[MFKS]

48 degrees.
Beer will be warm before you even get back to your seat.
Adelaide will tear us a new ass.
We will respond by kicking crap out of Isias.

We suck.

If the beer is warm by the time you get back to your seat.....

Drink the mid strength shit quicker

Not hard




On that note it is dead set criminal the authorities stopping you taking beer out of the ground

If you paid that much for your mid strength beer.and you still have it left 45 + mins of you purchasing it so it is now hot and you havent binned it already .....

Then as far as I am concerned your entitled to keep it

[Jetmaster]

The security nanna rules forget why people drink in the first place.

I tank up prematch at Wests these days on my own terms. Stadium drinking now is a waste if time and money.

[MFKS]

The security nanna rules forget why people drink in the first place.

I tank up prematch at Wests these days on my own terms. Stadium drinking now is a waste if time and money.

I have taken to buying a six pack of water at the supermarket and taking it to the game

I can drink when I leave the ground

**** drinking Iron Jack

[&1gest]

this game is at 7 not 7:50

[Jetmaster]

this game is at 7 not 7:50

Yep...the Wednesday game is 7.50pm.

[plague]

If the beer is warm by the time you get back to your seat.....

Drink the mid strength shit quicker

Not hard

spoken like a bloke who doesnt have to stop and sign autographs and take selfies with the fans.

[StannyCFCJET]

spoken like a bloke who doesnt have to stop and sign autographs and take selfies with the fans.

Tell the membah you will sign his napkin after the game

[Jeterpool]

this game is at 7 not 7:50

Mods can you fix the title.please.

[The Dunster]

The security nanna rules forget why people drink in the first place.

I tank up prematch at Wests these days on my own terms. Stadium drinking now is a waste if time and money.

The kiddies here are probably too young to remember when we were allowed one Esky per customer full of beer at the SCG and most other sporting grounds.

We weren't happy with the one esky limit but fortunately we found some bigger esky's.

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[Jetmaster]

The kiddies here are probably too young to remember when we were allowed one Esky per customer full of beer at the SCG and most other sporting grounds.

We weren't happy with the one esky limit but fortunately we found some bigger esky's.

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Mate you are of my vintage.

Remember a day on the SCG hill in the 80s...Sheffield Shield (when they got 10k weekend crowds). A guy drank the full contents of his esky....and ate his prawns....then ate his prawn heads....and finally, ate his foam esky.

Great fun for all to see....and not a single arrest. Even cops had a laugh.

[baldrick]

W League game rescheduled to Monday 930am (wtf)

A league kick off pushed back to 730pm Sunday

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/ffa-announces-changes-hyundai-a-league-and-westfield-w-league-kick-times-due-temperature

[&1gest]

jeterpool being psychic :rof:

[MFKS]

W League game rescheduled to Monday 930am (wtf)

A league kick off pushed back to 730pm Sunday

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/ffa-announces-changes-hyundai-a-league-and-westfield-w-league-kick-times-due-temperature
FFA treating the W League like the joke it is with a midweek early morning KO

Cant make this shit up
Lol

[Superdylan]

Thinking we will get a draw on Sunday. Last weekend was one of the ugliest wins we have ever had so I just can't see us backing it up.

Also glad the start has been delayed. Might actually get more fans in the eastern stand compared to the last 2 home games.

[Jeterpool]

jeterpool being psychic :rof:

:rof:

[380]

Me thinking we are due to find the back of the net with not only the sitters we have squandered but all the half chances also. Good cruisy win to us today at least by three.

[MFKS]

Read somewhere that in 13 years or whatever the League has been going only 1 side has failed to win a game between Xmas and New Years Day

You will never guess who is gunning for 14 in a row tonight??

[Couscous]

Excited. Sorry not to be there. I trust the Jets will teach Goodwin a lesson.

[Hunter403]

Excited. Sorry not to be there. I trust the Jets will teach Goodwin a lesson.

Typical of all (nearly - I'm laughing at you Hoole) ex Jets players to come back here and teach us a lesson. Let's hope he has a shocker tonight

[StannyCFCJET]

New big screen is ****ed haha. Matches the old one

[Hunter403]

New big screen is ****ed haha. Matches the old one

Would never happen in Sydney. They don't get second hand screens

[Retro Jet]

Watching on a stream in Germany..so a minute or so behind.
Just noticed the Fox Feed screen with the customary pregame shot of the VAR crew. Where was that in May?????

[Hunter403]

Two Dads is on tonight
Kanta and StevieG are struggling with the pressure put on them.
Dimi...go forward!!!

[weston]

Wtf was that?

[Hunter403]

No one tracked the runner. Not great goal keeping

[The Dunster]

Moss is a joke. He makes BK look world class.

Piss weak effort for the goal and lucky not to have been caught off his line earlier as well.

[The Dunster]

Overall we are all over Adelaide but our finishing is honking.

[StannyCFCJET]

Overall we are all over Adelaide but our finishing is honking.

Sums up our season

[Hunter403]

Can't hit the target at all.

[The Dunster]

Dimi couldn't hit a barn door from a metre.

[StannyCFCJET]

Dimi couldn't hit a barn door from a metre.

Hook him at H/T for me

[MFKS]

Moss is a joke. He makes BK look world class.

Piss weak effort for the goal and lucky not to have been caught off his line earlier as well.

His work in the air is disgraceful

Makes Birraz look like a world beater on aerial stuff

[belchardo]

just flicked on the abc commentary. first comment i heard: "ridenton's first five touches have led to turnovers". everything is as it was then.

[Hunter403]

Roy!!!!!

[Retro Jet]

Fook it! Lost my stream at the critical moment
Can anyone recommend something other that Sportlemon/Fromhot plz?

[Hunter403]

Can someone bitch slap Ridenton and tell him he wore white last year! How many ****ing turnovers????

[MFKS]

Close the internet tonight

**** you Boogaard

I always said this would happen

[Hunter403]

****en Boogs 😤😤😤

[The Dunster]

Goodwin is a ****wit. He's done sweet fa all night and prances around like he's a world beater after getting the assist from Boogaard.

[The Dunster]

I will be placing a large risk free bet on the Roar to beat Newcastle.

[StannyCFCJET]

Dimi was 1000 times worse then boogs so was Vargas blame them b4 you blame Boogs

[Hunter403]

Dimi was 1000 times worse then boogs so was Vargas blame them b4 you blame Boogs

You are partially right but it was our fearless leader tgat slid in (again) in the box.

If he doesn't hold the A League record for conceding pens, I'd be surprised

[StannyCFCJET]

You are partially right but it was our fearless leader tgat slid in (again) in the box.

If he doesn't hold the A League record for conceding pens, I'd be surprised

What is he supposed to do. Let kitto tthrough on goal?

[Frodo]

50% of that loss goes to Boogard for giving away a sh#thouse penalty.

The rest goes to whichever bag of dicks resigned him for next season.

Fold the club.

[plague]

Bit harsh on Boogaard lads.
win as a team, lose as a team etc etc.

[StannyCFCJET]

50% of that loss goes to Boogard for giving away a sh#thouse penalty.

The rest goes to whichever bag of dicks resigned him for next season.

Fold the club.

How to pisstake 101

[Frodo]

Bit harsh on Boogaard lads.
win as a team, lose as a team etc etc.

Don't let common sense get in the way of a good rant.
Dimi was also trash. Roy did nothing until Sheppard came on. Ridenten played as well as he can, Hoffman decided he was only left footed tonight and kept cutting back onto it instead of crossing early (same goes for Dimi), McKinna is a filthy Gypo.


That's all i've got right now, come back to me after I've driven home.

[mic22]

Topor was I-M-ME-N-S-E
Classic Jets game, we should rename the club as Frustration FC.

[MFKS]

Bit harsh on Boogaard lads.
win as a team, lose as a team etc etc.

No **** Him

You know perfectly well this was bound to happen AGAIN

It aint a ****ing surprise


120 yards away I could tell who it was diving in


Boogaard costing us points with needless penalties is as predictable as an Aussie batting colllapse

#DueAnyMinute

[plague]

No **** Him

You know perfectly well this was bound to happen AGAIN

It aint a ****ing surprise


120 yards away I could tell who it was diving in


Boogaard costing us points with needless penalties is as predictable as an Aussie batting colllapse

#DueAnyMinute

nah just a good player out of luck.

how bout we look at the forward line.
if they didnt lose the ball then Boogaard would never have been needed.

[sorefootballer]

No! **** boogard, too many times in his jets career this has happened, especially in pivotal/tight moments.. I have no sympathy

[MFKS]

nah just a good player out of luck.

how bout we look at the forward line.
if they didnt lose the ball then Boogaard would never have been needed.

That effort of yours

#PissWeak

[380]

Well that was shit. Uga and Kanta still hungover from Chrissy drinks. Please don't even get me started on Ridenton, How the $%^& Ernie was not stopped when it came to signing this bloke i will never know. I said at the time i had watched all the Nix games in the past and Ridenton was just plain rubbish and for the lfe of me could not understand that one.

Is there a Korean club we can send Dimi to for a rev up ?. Blokes set piece work is total fu%^&ng rubbish at present. His tunnel vision in attack playing like he is the only bloke in a Jets shirt. Moss has been tragic for weeks now so questions need to be asked of Bowling WTF is going on there.

And given club management treated the first 8 rounds with the same level of importance as training runs we can't afford too many more efforts like tonight.

Finally the officials performance tonight typified why people find it hard to respect them. Perhaps if they done there fu^&8ng jobs right they may get some.

[Jetmaster]

Most angry I have been for a while. No finals this season, we can't curse our luck anymore in front of goal...we just can't cut it. Nobody has a reliable shot on goal and sometimes it is comical.
Dimi and Ronny in the same side doesn't work and both were poor tonight.
Every club knows the tactics to beat us and is getting easier each week.

Shoot me.

[Frodo]

Well that was shit. Uga and Kanta still hungover from Chrissy drinks. Please don't even get me started on Ridenton, How the $%^& Ernie was not stopped when it came to signing this bloke i will never know. I said at the time i had watched all the Nix games in the past and Ridenton was just plain rubbish and for the lfe of me could not understand that one.

Is there a Korean club we can send Dimi to for a rev up ?. Blokes set piece work is total fu%^&ng rubbish at present. His tunnel vision in attack playing like he is the only bloke in a Jets shirt. Moss has been tragic for weeks now so questions need to be asked of Bowling WTF is going on there.

And given club management treated the first 8 rounds with the same level of importance as training runs we can't afford too many more efforts like tonight.

Finally the officials performance tonight typified why people find it hard to respect them. Perhaps if they done there fu^&8ng jobs right they may get some.

I thought Kanta did well defensively in the 2nd half when we finally went at them. Stopped a few counter attacks before they could happen. He did well as pretty much the lone midfielder today, Uga and Ridenton did about as much whilst they sat on the bench than they did in each half they played.

Everything else I agree with.

[Frodo]

nah just a good player out of luck.

how bout we look at the forward line.
if they didnt lose the ball then Boogaard would never have been needed.

You know we normally agree on alot of things Plague. And I understand what Boogs did to help the club when we were peak trash. But he is passed his used-by-date and can't keep up.

Touch was terrible, went back to Moss when he could have turned and passed to a midfielder. Can't defend 1v1 anymore, too slow to track runners coming at him.

His only positive all night was a few nice passes to George on the diagonal.


George was the only reason we finally started playing in the 2nd half and equalised as well. Everyone was standing still and he started running at people and tried to come centrally to make something happen. He was the only 1 who started other than Topor who actually wanted to win today. Everyone else seemed like it was a training drill.

[380]

Most angry I have been for a while. No finals this season, we can't curse our luck anymore in front of goal...we just can't cut it. Nobody has a reliable shot on goal and sometimes it is comical.
Dimi and Ronny in the same side doesn't work and both were poor tonight.
Every club knows the tactics to beat us and is getting easier each week.

Shoot me.

Agreed. After a result against the scum and coming up against a team that played just a few days ago and then travelled here you would think our blokes were capable of more. There just seems to be a bit too much self admiration within the club after last seasons success. No better example of that than the clubs approach over the first 8 weeks.

[Jeterpool]

Only a few more weeks until Joey is back and then it will all be better.


Sounds like something I've heard recently...


Classic jets performance

[plague]

You know we normally agree on alot of things Plague.

and thats because you enjoy being right a lot of the time.

but.

You guys are being hard on Boogs. Bloke was super duper. that pen decision was difficult to judge. in the words of Mike Lowry, "that shit be on a slant".
im positive the refs cost us tonight, not Nigel Boogaard.

[Frodo]

and thats because you enjoy being right a lot of the time.

but.

You guys are being hard on Boogs. Bloke was super duper. that pen decision was difficult to judge. in the words of Mike Lowry, "that shit be on a slant".
im positive the refs cost us tonight, not Nigel Boogaard.
That was 100% a penalty. Clear as day and it was very easy for Kitto to see it coming.

That was a bad decision from Boogs but I also think he is on a steady decline, not because I don't like him but because he getting old. It happens to everyone.

[Jetmaster]

Boogs decline was discussed on the pod the other day and it was pretty spot on.

[380]

Boogs has struggled big time last few weeks with positioning. That was a training run goal he gifted Simon down at Gosford.

[mic22]

Game should have finished 4-2, and no one would be complaining about boogz. We're not worse than last season defensively. We just can't score.
Speaking of which: how good is Sheppard? 2 killer assists in 40 minutes of play (doing Ronny's work, really...), bloke is a pretty solid attacker.
Jair, Dimi, Ronny: what is going on?

[The Dunster]

If we still had Nabbout we'd be top of the league.
If someone can fill that void we will be fine (hopefully Joey C).

I also think we need to dribble the ball into the area more so than take one in ten shots as we have been.

Dimi is looking like the player he was at SFC. Promises a lot but delivers nothing.

He needs a rest.

[MFKS]

Criticism of Dimi is OTT

Bloke tried his arse off all night

Sure as shit he took too many touches
Sure as shit he kept cutting on to his left foot
Sure as shit he wouldnt pass the ball
Sure as shit he couldnt hit a cows arse with a banjo with his shooting

But the bloke was trying despite being honking


Now lets contrast this with the alleged best No10 in the comp??

Anonymous and poor

Vargas needs to be hooked and benched

He is the 1 being paid the big $$ to carry the team. He aint even getting involved


Maybe if he actually done what we expect him to do Dimi wouldnt have to try and do it all on his own and wouldnt have to overplay his had??

Rather we moved Dimi to 10 and benched Vargas so we can play with some width and a no 10 who tries to own the game

[Frodo]

Criticism of Dimi is OTT

Bloke tried his arse off all night

Sure as shit he took too many touches
Sure as shit he kept cutting on to his left foot
Sure as shit he wouldnt pass the ball
Sure as shit he couldnt hit a cows arse with a banjo with his shooting

But the bloke was trying despite being honking


Now lets contrast this with the alleged best No10 in the comp??

Anonymous and poor

Vargas needs to be hooked and benched

He is the 1 being paid the big $$ to carry the team. He aint even getting involved


Maybe if he actually done what we expect him to do Dimi wouldnt have to try and do it all on his own and wouldnt have to overplay his had??

Rather we moved Dimi to 10 and benched Vargas so we can play with some width and a no 10 who tries to own the game


You sure you haven't got them mixed up?

Ronny worked harder than Dimi last night, which still isn't saying much. Ronny even tracks back to help out defensively.

He was given plenty of ball last night and didn't do jack with it. If he was trying as hard as you say he was maybe he would have tried something different and stopped cutting back on his left and getting tackled. It was so easy to read.

Jair was better than Dimi last night and he literally fell over the ball from 3 yards out.

Dimi thought he had made it once he was selected for the Socceroos and took his foot off the gas. Hopefully watching the Asian Cup from home will wake him up.


Most importantly, get him off free kick duties/corners for a few weeks. Let Ronny, or George even, take some for a while. Can't do any worse than Dimi has been lately. Again, he just needs a freshen up.

[StannyCFCJET]

You sure you haven't got them mixed up?

Ronny worked harder than Dimi last night, which still isn't saying much. Ronny even tracks back to help out defensively.

He was given plenty of ball last night and didn't do jack with it. If he was trying as hard as you say he was maybe he would have tried something different and stopped cutting back on his left and getting tackled. It was so easy to read.

Jair was better than Dimi last night and he literally fell over the ball from 3 yards out.

Dimi thought he had made it once he was selected for the Socceroos and took his foot off the gas. Hopefully watching the Asian Cup from home will wake him up.


Most importantly, get him off free kick duties/corners for a few weeks. Let Ronny, or George even, take some for a while. Can't do any worse than Dimi has been lately. Again, he just needs a freshen up.

Glad someone else saw the same Dimi as me last night

[Mark325]

A couple of players really need a reality check coming up to prove to them that there is consequences for being shit

Dimi is giving me the shits every game, playin for himself and not the shirt anymore it feels. Would completely neutralise any attack he was apart of most times he recieved the ball and can't set piece to save his life. replace him for a game or two with Sheppard cause clearly his hearts not in the game who has proven he can set up goals and score them himself

Kanta is doing well this season, but uga is lacking in parts this season. However, i'd still prefer him on the pitch to Ridenton who i don't think is even capable of being a footballer. if they're both underperforming give johnny k a run on the pitch and see how he fairs.

Moss is making mistake after mistake, a couple of goals this season can really go down as a gk error and i do think he should be punished for that as well so let's give Italiano a go for a game and see where it gets us.

George is MOM 100% this week, without him we would have been considerably worse off. We need to learn how to be clinical in front of goals, cause 25 shots and 1 goal is a joke. If we don't actually start making changes i don't see us improving, we were the better side against adelaide but we're really becoming our own worst enemy

[StannyCFCJET]

A couple of players really need a reality check coming up to prove to them that there is consequences for being shit

Dimi is giving me the shits every game, playin for himself and not the shirt anymore it feels. Would completely neutralise any attack he was apart of most times he recieved the ball and can't set piece to save his life. replace him for a game or two with Sheppard or Thurgate cause clearly he's hearts not in the game

Kanta is doing well this season, but uga is lacking in parts this season. However, i'd still prefer him on the pitch to Ridenton who i don't think is even capable of being a footballer. if they're both underperforming give johnny k a run on the pitch and see how he fairs.

Moss is making mistake after mistake, a couple of goals this season can really go down as a gk error and i do think he should be punished for that as well so let's give Italiano a go for a game and see where it gets us.

George is MOM 100% this week, without him we would have been considerably worse off. We need to learn how to be clinical in front of goals, cause 25 shots and 1 goal is a joke. If we don't actually start making changes i don't see us improving, we were the better side against adelaide but we're really becoming our own worst enemy

Cowburn needs a run over Uga IMO

[380]

You sure you haven't got them mixed up?

Ronny worked harder than Dimi last night, which still isn't saying much. Ronny even tracks back to help out defensively.

He was given plenty of ball last night and didn't do jack with it. If he was trying as hard as you say he was maybe he would have tried something different and stopped cutting back on his left and getting tackled. It was so easy to read.

Jair was better than Dimi last night and he literally fell over the ball from 3 yards out.

Dimi thought he had made it once he was selected for the Socceroos and took his foot off the gas. Hopefully watching the Asian Cup from home will wake him up.


Most importantly, get him off free kick duties/corners for a few weeks. Let Ronny, or George even, take some for a while. Can't do any worse than Dimi has been lately. Again, he just needs a freshen up.

Have to agree. At one stage last night we had a corner that Jair was about to take and Dimi basically just told him to move on so he could take it. Needless to say it was about as good as his recent efforts struggling not to hit the legs of the closest person to him. I recall a goal down at Gosford from Jair taking the corner kick. Blokes dead ball work lately is diabolical. Ron was poor last night but yeh the current version of Dimi is so smurf Dimi and as much as i hate to say it because nobody hates Arnold more than me but he was right to not select Dimi.

There are a few egotistical players at the moment getting starts when perhaps they shouldn't be, we shall see just how brave Ernie is when we see how he deals with those individual players. Starting with Dimi.

Can't wait for Joey to return. He almost always sticks to the sideline to provide that width and when he does get the ball his first instinct is to go forward and take bloke on.

Also all these shots on goal everybody is getting carried away with as the one positive from games.3/4 of those are Dimi's long range couldn't hit the side of a barn door attempts so not quite sure we should be clutching to the stat the way some would like.

[Jetmaster]

Just heard the girls were winning 2-1 in injury time and lost.

The old Jets are back alright!

[pv4]

I recall a goal down at Gosford from Jair taking the corner kick.

Fair enough we scored from it but far out it was a horrible corner.

There's an article somewhere on the internet about how a corner hitting the first defender is actually the highest probability to score from, it was a pretty fascinating read. Don't blame Dimi for playing the stats game. He is trying his gut out for this team but IMO just doesn't have the support around him this season as much.

[380]

Nah man. Bloke is playing with blinkers on at the moment and just as the team has become so very predictable so has Dimi.

You know 9 times out of 10 that Dimi will receive the ball stop dead in his tracks do the step over happy feet fancy feet shit turn left face backwards track back a bit then turn right cut across the field 10 yards and then wind up for one of those shots that gets counted as a shot but was really nothing more than just a hope at best hoof. Repeat and repeat again til final whistle.

Dimi ain't at 50% of what he is capable of and that is not on anybody else, team mates or otherwise just him.

And no this not a Ronnie v Dimi thing either. You know we are screwed and devoid of anything good when Ronnie comes all the way back to get the ball from Boogs or two dads. We had 7 weeks of that crap the only exemption when Ernie thought Ronnie should play at #9 for one week.

[plague]

Dimi is giving me the shits every game, playin for himself and not the shirt anymore it feels.

dont know how to break this to you, but every player in the history of football is in this for themself, and not the shirt.

now, onto Petratos.

we dont have anyone near his quality to replace him, so he keeps his spot.
when he gets the ball, he gets mugged. i noticed the space Goodwin has, and watched as Victory made heaps of space for Honda whenever he had the ball.
now i dont know if its coaching, or the player, but whenever he gets the ball he has nowhere near the space of other important attackers across the league.

i have no problem taking him off set pieces, or at least offering variety.

dont know what the stats are but outswinging corners never 'seem' to provide much threat on goal. yet he we are time and again going with the same set pieces.

we were the better team last night, by a lot.
we keep improving and make the semis we have no fear of any team.......except if we play City away, Perth away and Victory anywhere.
but other than that, stay positive people.

[Tommyjet]

80% of dimis work last night was the same 'first touch backwards' shite we have seen this season. On a few occasions however he showed glimpses of what he and nabbout did so effectively last season and that is carrying the ball forward at pace in a very direct fashion. Hopefully the 20% grows to find something near the balance needed.

[Jetmaster]

This shit doesn't help...

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/dimi-a-league-leader-chances-and-assists

Outcomes not process.

[mic22]

80% of dimis work last night was the same 'first touch backwards' shite we have seen this season. On a few occasions however he showed glimpses of what he and nabbout did so effectively last season and that is carrying the ball forward at pace in a very direct fashion. Hopefully the 20% grows to find something near the balance needed.

True. However, "carrying the ball forward at pace in a very direct fashion" is hard when he is forced to receive the ball with his back to the goal, 2 defenders marking him straight away, and very little support for some combinations.
Hoff seems to provide a little more support recently. I agree Dimi could try some forward plays, he's got the quality and technique to do it.
Vargas seems to be a lot better at this kind of plays though (back to the goal, receive the ball and dribble the defender etc.), but he's playing too far from the goal for this to create real chances.
So... why not swap positions? Dimi as a 10 (but not too advanced) would have more chances to take on defenders directly, and Vargas in a more attacking position cold use his finishing skills (which are outstanding) much closer to the goal.
Put Roy's runs in the mix.
Problem solved, give me Ernie's job :D

[mic22]

btw... 100% sure this is offside?
1589

[plague]

btw... 100% sure this is offside?
1589

Yes. Clearly.



I was right in line for that one and Roy's goal.
From live look I swore Roy was offside. Replay showed just how intelligent the run was.

That run is the exact difference between a striker, and a bloke playing up front.

[mic22]

Yes. Clearly.



I was right in line for that one and Roy's goal.
From live look I swore Roy was offside. Replay showed just how intelligent the run was.

That run is the exact difference between a striker, and a bloke playing up front.
Agree.
It was so good that he had to check twice before celebrating :D

[380]

Just watched Ernie's post match presser and he said he was pleased with the performance of Ridenton.

With that type of assessment we have nothing to worry about eh, In Ernie we trust. Right right !.

[plague]

Just watched Ernie's post match presser and he aid he was pleased with the performance of Ridenton.


yeah look im not one to pile on players especially fantastic blokes like Nigel Boogaard and Dimi Patratos who is also a fantastic bloke.


but


The hell does Ernie see in this Ridenton bloke? Legit, Cowburn is better, and as much as i love the Ugabooga man, his form hasnt been sparkling this year. If youre gonna drop Ugabooga then Cowburn is next man up imo.

[MFKS]

You sure you haven't got them mixed up?

Ronny worked harder than Dimi last night, which still isn't saying much. Ronny even tracks back to help out defensively.

He was given plenty of ball last night and didn't do jack with it. If he was trying as hard as you say he was maybe he would have tried something different and stopped cutting back on his left and getting tackled. It was so easy to read.

Jair was better than Dimi last night and he literally fell over the ball from 3 yards out.

Dimi thought he had made it once he was selected for the Socceroos and took his foot off the gas. Hopefully watching the Asian Cup from home will wake him up.


Most importantly, get him off free kick duties/corners for a few weeks. Let Ronny, or George even, take some for a while. Can't do any worse than Dimi has been lately. Again, he just needs a freshen up.

Wrong blokes ??

Dont think so

Dimi busted his arse all night trying to get involved in play

Admittedly he ****ed it up and refused to release the ball enough and was generally honking last night in execution

Cant fault his effort at trying as he was constantly popping up everywhere trying to get something happening


As for Vargas other than tracking back once at a set piece he done **** all of note.
Matter of fact he spent most of the night in Vinny Lias pocket

This is a bloke who we are paying to provide the point if difference to our Aussie side.
What exactly did he offer last night ??

Sweet **** All


People keep going on that we aint the same side since Nabbout left.I will go further on this

We aint the same side since Vargas came back into the side after his injury. He has been a disruptive effect on our side and we havent learned yet how to play with him

Our poor form at the backend of last season corresponds to Vargas comeback into the side just as much as Nabbouts departure

Dimi played shit last night
It happens
That is less of a worry than having Vargas as a passenger in the game like we have most weeks

[MFKS]

yeah look im not one to pile on players especially fantastic blokes like Nigel Boogaard and Dimi Patratos who is also a fantastic bloke.


but


The hell does Ernie see in this Ridenton bloke? Legit, Cowburn is better, and as much as i love the Ugabooga man, his form hasnt been sparkling this year. If youre gonna drop Ugabooga then Cowburn is next man up imo.

Not the one to pile on blokes??

FMD

[plague]

Not the one to pile on blokes??

FMD

any time you wanna get some proof to back up this scurrilous accusation then feel free.

otherwise my point stands. i support our players, and have been known to pass on the odd morsel of constructive criticism every now and then.

[MFKS]

any time you wanna get some proof to back up this scurrilous accusation then feel free.

otherwise my point stands. i support our players, and have been known to pass on the odd morsel of constructive criticism every now and then.

Boogaard
Middleby
Gypo CEO

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[Frodo]

Wrong blokes ??

Dont think so

Dimi busted his arse all night trying to get involved in play

Admittedly he ****ed it up and refused to release the ball enough and was generally honking last night in execution

Cant fault his effort at trying as he was constantly popping up everywhere trying to get something happening


As for Vargas other than tracking back once at a set piece he done **** all of note.
Matter of fact he spent most of the night in Vinny Lias pocket

This is a bloke who we are paying to provide the point if difference to our Aussie side.
What exactly did he offer last night ??

Sweet **** All


People keep going on that we aint the same side since Nabbout left.I will go further on this

We aint the same side since Vargas came back into the side after his injury. He has been a disruptive effect on our side and we havent learned yet how to play with him

Our poor form at the backend of last season corresponds to Vargas comeback into the side just as much as Nabbouts departure

Dimi played shit last night
It happens
That is less of a worry than having Vargas as a passenger in the game like we have most weeks


You hate Vargas, we get it. But pretty much everything you've said is here is wrong.

[MFKS]

You hate Vargas, we get it. But pretty much everything you've said is here is wrong.

How??

He come back into the side back end of last season and we struggled

We got him out of the team and we found form smashing 8 in


He comes back and we struggle


This year we have struggled with him there


Reality is we aint found any form with him in the side

[plague]

Boogaard
Middleby
Gypo CEO

....

Not sure where youve been lately but i have spoken glowingly about Nigel Boogaard and how he is a fantastic bloke. Not sure where you think this hate comes from.

As for the other 2, you do know the difference between 'players' and 'useless suits' dont you?