18/19 HAL Round 11 | Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar| Wed 2nd Jan 2019 750pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 11 Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 41 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 18, Roar Wins - 14, Drawn - 9


In Newcastle – 22 matches.
Jets Wins - 6, Roar Wins - 10, Drawn - 6
In Brisbane - 19 matches
Jets Wins - 12, Roar Wins - 4, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9706
Average Away A-League Crowd - 11191

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 50, Roar - 48
In Newcastle -
Jets – 24, Roar - 34

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 24, Roar - 15

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 91 (83 yellow, 8 red), Roar 62 (58 yellow, 4 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LWLWL (6 point from last 15)
Roar - LLLLW (3 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Ronald Vargas (3)
Roar – Adam Taggart (6)

Last Result -
#N/A

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Round 7

Newcastle JetsBrisbane Roar
Glen MossJamie Young
Daniel GeorgievskiJack Hingert
Nigel BoogaardDaniel Bowles
Nikolai Topor-StanleyAvraam Papadopolous
Ivan VujicaConnor O'Toole
Steven UgarkovicThomas Kristensen
Ben KantarovskiMatt McKay
Ronald VargasAlex Lopez
Jair EduardoTobias Mikkelsen
Dimitri PetratosEric Bautheac
Kaine SheppardHenrique



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Hingert 8' o.g, Boogaard 62', Ugarkovic 71', Clut 86') – Roar 0 at McDonald Jones Stadium, Round 2, Season 2016/17, 16/10/2016.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Roar 5 (Reinaldo 10’, Richter 44’, Brosque 52’, McKay 83’, Murdocca 90+1’), Round 20, Season 2005/06 at Energy Australia Stadium, 26/01/2006.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (8)
Roar - Reinaldo (7)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss1010018550010
3Jason Hoffman98157072140
4Nigel Boogaard1010009000030
5Ben Kantarovski97216390010
6Steven Ugarkovic1010038190020
7Dimitri Petratos1010009001300
8Jair Eduardo99096371100
9Roy O'Donovan22011751000
10Ronald Vargas1010028833000
11Mitch Austin4040680100
13Ivan Vujica52311750000
14Kaine Sheppard72522371210
16Nick Cowburn61502781000
17Daniel Georgievski1010028820130
18John Koutroumbis000000000
20Lewis Italiano1010450000
22Lachlan Jackson66024990010
23Matthew Ridenton83514650010
32Angus Thurgate4040440000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley1010009000110



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Darren Davies - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 4 matches (4 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 66% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (9 wins, 3 drawn and 5 losses = 53% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 wins, 4 drawn, 1 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)

[380]

New scoreboard to shit itself again
Lose
Ernie out
Fold the club

[plague]

Roar by 3.
Matt McKay to be stupid.

[mic22]

148 shots at goal for the Jets, Taggart scores in injury time, Roar to win 0-1.

[Hunter403]

On Wednesday night I am going to do whatever cause the least pain: run head first into a wall multiple times or watch the Jets.

Tough choice......

[Captain Obvious]

On Wednesday night I am going to do whatever cause the least pain: run head first into a wall multiple times or watch the Jets.


Running into a wall would cause you more physical pain.
Hope everybody had a good Christmas and has a happy new year.

[Jeterpool]

Running into a wall would cause you more physical pain.
Hope everybody had a good Christmas and has a happy new year.

You to Captain. Would love to see you more next year - perhaps the pickings have been too low even for you.

[baldrick]

Roar are our bunnies. And they are rubbish this year.

So a dour 0-0 draw coming up.

[MFKS]

Roar are our bunnies. And they are rubbish this year.

So a dour 0-0 draw coming up.

What about next year??

We not playing them this year

I hope they stay rubbiush next year though with no Aloisi in charge they will improve out of sight

[Jeterpool]

Interesting, in 2008/09 (the season after the GF win) we had 11 points after 10 games - the same as this season.

Mark Jones was ahead of us at the same point in the season by a point. Miller was 2 points ahead at the same point.

[Jetmaster]

Yep...not looking good atm. After tonight away games to both Melbourne teams and SFC over the next three weekends.

Have to win tonight.

[Jeterpool]

Yep...not looking good atm. After tonight away games to both Melbourne teams and SFC over the next three weekends.

Have to win tonight.

IF we could have taken 9 of a possible 12 points that would have been great. Instead, we're now going at 1.5 points a game in this crucial period and we aren't going to trouble the finals with that sort of form.

Agree. We need to win tonight otherwise we risk losing touch with the finals.

[StannyCFCJET]

Forget finals, Thats not happening this season. Lets just get some confidence back in some of our players for the ACL and give some valuable time to guys like Thurgate etc

[The Dunster]

Roar are paying $4.33 ftw on Sports Bet.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Roar are paying $4.33 ftw on Sports Bet.

Thankyou

[Bremsstrahlung]

Hey Jeterpool, Can I ask what you mean by average home/away crowd?

[Hunter403]

Jair and Stevie Ug polishing the pine.
Johnny K back in.
Ridenton starts (let's count the turnovers tonight)
Hoff back up front

Interesting indeed

[Couscous]

Is Jair injured?

[Hunter403]

Rotation perhaps with ACL in mind?
Cowburn must be in the sh1t

[Hunter403]

Dimi!!!!!

[MFKS]

Dimi reading the foz and going forward

FMD

[plague]

SIT YO ASSES DOWN!!!!!

this is Dimis monent, and mine, and the member.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Calm finish. Well done!

[Hunter403]

Dominating as we are we shoukd have 3 by half time. We all know Taggart will get one

[LiamD]

Cant remember my bloody old account, regardless, does anyone have a stream for this? Fox connection has died.

[MFKS]

****

We are good to watch though

Still cant shoot for shit

But we are carving these ****s up everywhere bar the scoreboard

[Jetmaster]

Be so Jets to lose this.

[MFKS]

Be so Jets to lose this.

Defending we are holding Roar out

But we are playing a dangerous game going 1 v 1 on them a lot

They aint far away from springing someone free though

If we keep playing like this and start getting some more shoþs on target we could easily put 3 to 4 more in tonight

[Imyourhero]

Ridenton is trash

[MFKS]

So exactly what did the good people of Newy ever do to Sean Evans??

Got to be something good

Bloke dead set holds the best grudge against us all

[MFKS]

Gee Henrique these days is garbage

Nailed On Gypo marquee next season

[Hunter403]

And Taggart screws us again

[MFKS]

Some form of parity restored

Should be about 6 -1 now

[Hunter403]

Great to see Boogs get an assist for us for a change

[Couscous]

WTF is Meredith on about.

[Couscous]

FFS. Not the 2019 I ordered.

[The Dunster]

Jackson. Omfg

[The Dunster]

Bring back Tinkler.

[Grimario]

What the **** is Jackson doing? Ffs

[Hunter403]

Johnny K has that French hit in his pocket all night. Jackson comes on and screws the pooch.
Great change Ernie

[The Dunster]

Won't be long before Mckinna announces that Merrick has his and Lees full support.

[StannyCFCJET]

This club FMD

[Frodo]

I honestly hate this club more than I hate the Mariners.

[MFKS]

Johnny K has that French hit in his pocket all night. Jackson comes on and screws the pooch.
Great change Ernie

WTF??

Johnny K was honking all night

Major involvement in both Roar gifts of goals

Berts subs tonight

FMD

Roar were asking for fresh legs to be running at their back line and he left Thurgate and Jair on the bench and then hooked our attacker's

#2 Points thrown away

[sorefootballer]

Last years good work has gone down the gurgler like our finals chances. Frustrations are right up there

[StannyCFCJET]

WTF??

Johnny K was honking all night

Major involvement in both Roar gifts of goals

Berts subs tonight

FMD

Roar were asking for fresh legs to be running at their back line and he left Thurgate and Jair on the bench and then hooked our attacker's

#2 Points thrown away

Thurgate wasnt on the bench but agree

[Hunter403]

WTF??

Johnny K was honking all night

Major involvement in both Roar gifts of goals

Berts subs tonight

FMD

Roar were asking for fresh legs to be running at their back line and he left Thurgate and Jair on the bench and then hooked our attacker's

#2 Points thrown away

Johnny K was honking? You been drinking ???

[Retro Jet]

I honestly hate this club more than I hate the Mariners.

That's a big call....

[StannyCFCJET]

Thurgate wasnt on the bench but agree

About the subs not Johnny K

[Jetmaster]

Johnny K should gave been pulled...he was gone. Jackson to RB....5 backs was madness....with 3 DMs as well.
We then had nobody to get that third goal.
This one down to Ernie.

[StannyCFCJET]

Johnny K should gave been pulled...he was gone. Jackson to RB....5 backs was madness....with 3 DMs as well.
We then had nobody to get that third goal.
This one down to Ernie.

Ridenton and Johnny K off, Hoff to RB and Jair on but Ernie is too clever for that

[MFKS]

Johnny K was honking? You been drinking ???

He was ball watching for the French blokes equaliser

5 Yards off the pace


He also allowed the bloke to get countless crosses in far too easily and one of them led to the Taggart goal

The rest of the night he looked like a bloke who hadnt played for months

Bert had options there

Could have swapped George over or could have put Hoff back there

But he left him out there and it cost us big time

[mic22]

1st law of football.. waste easy chances and you'll get punished. Nothing new.
Or lack of composure in front of goal is shocking.
1st roar goal is on Johnny K.
Who was playing right back for roars 2nd goal? I think we'll never know. Johnny was completely exhausted at 70', why pull O'Donovan?
Last 3 home games should've been 9 "easy" points... we get away with 1.
Goodbye finals?

[MFKS]

On another note all that field position space dominbance etc


Can someone enlighten me as to why Vargas was once again not bossing that game??

We keep paying the big bucks and our main man is failing to deliver again and again

[380]

Last years good work has gone down the gurgler like our finals chances. Frustrations are right up there

The benchmark was set very low the moment we signed blokes the quality of Ridenton.

[Jetmaster]

On another note all that field position space dominbance etc


Can someone enlighten me as to why Vargas was once again not bossing that game??

We keep paying the big bucks and our main man is failing to deliver again and again

Worryingly Vargas didn't look interested tonight and Hoff was openly unhappy at being taken off. Both our goals were hard work as well, nothing clinical.

Things are not good atm.

[Jeterpool]

Hey Jeterpool, Can I ask what you mean by average home/away crowd?
Average crowd against the team when we are home. Average crowd against the team when we travel.


Johnny K should gave been pulled...he was gone. Jackson to RB....5 backs was madness....with 3 DMs as well.
We then had nobody to get that third goal.
This one down to Ernie.

The negative change was a gamble. It didn't pay off and played into their hands. We were ripe for a counter with Roy on. Thought we could have held out with 4 but Johnny was spent


Worryingly Vargas didn't look interested tonight and Hoff was openly unhappy at being taken off. Both our goals were hard work as well, nothing clinical.

Things are not good atm.

Winning breeds confidence and happiness. We aren't winning right now

[StannyCFCJET]

No excuses for Vargas, You are a marquee on big money. You must be at a 8/9 out of 10 level every week or what is the point of a marquee

[mic22]

Worryingly Vargas didn't look interested tonight
I had the same impression.
I'll try to do the same tomorrow at work, just to see what happens...
Unfortunately Ronny doesn't seem to gel with the team: I don't see him staying for another season, unless things improve significantly in the 2nd part of the season.
Things are not great, and it's not necessarily his fault only, but players should give their 100% always, it's their bloody profession!!!

[380]

Weren't Ronnies management at present in talks about another season. Perhaps the clubs offer was not received too well.

Either way a lot of this is on Ernie. Bloke has made some really bizarre decisions this season. Going all the way back to signing Ridenton, Bloke had done nothing absolutely nothing at the Nix yet we offer him a gig. His selections in the first round inc Jackson and then starting week after week even though he was going like a busted ass. Continually selecting Hoff at the point when it was not working not even trying for any length of time a switch with Jair. His ripper the other night after the Adelaide game trying to convince people Ridenton had a good game when he came on, We must have two Ridenton's because the one i seen in the second half against Adelaide was piss poor and be lucky to get a start at Valo he turned the ball over that many times.

And those subs tonight inc Jackson WTF. Our worst performer this season has been our coach.

As pissed as i am with the players Ernie form has also been atrocious.

[The Dunster]

I had the same impression.
I'll try to do the same tomorrow at work, just to see what happens...
Unfortunately Ronny doesn't seem to gel with the team: I don't see him staying for another season, unless things improve significantly in the 2nd part of the season.
Things are not great, and it's not necessarily his fault only, but players should give their 100% always, it's their bloody profession!!!

The hard work is in making the promotional video and getting your name on the contract. The rest is just waiting around until it expires and you need to get another highlights tape onto the market.
Vargas has done all that. he's getting paid - not sure why you feel he needs to deliver above and beyond that - I certainly wouldn't.

The least possible effort for highest obtainable salary - isn't that the goal of all workers / players.

Winning only matters to useless khunts like us that were never good enough to play professionally.

[mic22]

The hard work is in making the promotional video and getting your name on the contract. The rest is just waiting around until it expires and you need to get another highlights tape onto the market.
Vargas has done all that. he's getting paid - not sure why you feel he needs to deliver above and beyond that - I certainly wouldn't.

The least possible effort for highest obtainable salary - isn't that the goal of all workers / players.

Winning only matters to useless khunts like us that were never good enough to play professionally.

I'm sure all the Messis and Ronaldos in the world have a radically different idea of their profession.
And they don't play in the a league, I know ...

[The Dunster]

Once again, I thought Crazy George was the best on ground tonight. He never stopped running and he was always looking to create something in attack as well.

The Dimi and Vargas combination is a disaster - either the formation / tactics change or one of them has to go in January.

[The Dunster]

I'm sure all the Messis and Ronaldos in the world have a radically different idea of their profession.
And they don't play in the a league, I know ...

They play to obtain / maintain a lifestyle not to win. I'm not saying winning isn't important - but it always takes a backseat to the dollar / lifestyle.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Idk how I feel.

Glad To see Johnny K back, and he showed some promising moments but seemed to give the ball away easy with stray passes and crosses and my first instinct was he was at fault for the last goal. That was his man in the buildup. George got caught upfield, Kanta tracked the runner through to LB position. He looks absolutely spent and can’t track his runner through.

I didn’t mind the defensive subs at the time. But I thought we ended up a bit too defensive. When you go that defensive you simply invite attack after attack.

Have been critical of George at the start of the season, but he’s playing much better and to he level he is capable of. Dimi first half was his best 45 this year.

[plague]

Johnny K was gassed at 60 mins. Merrick had a perfect replacement sitting right there.
He couldn't keep up with his man for the equalizer. Poor coaching on that one.

[Jetmaster]

I was actually watched JK for the entire second goal as I was very concerned. He was on halfway when they got the ball....he dropped the head as if he knew what was to come and forced himself into a 3/4 trot. He was never going to make it back.

[q-money]

how does matt mckay stay on the field ffs. bloke should have had about 20 million yellows before he got his first

[Hunter403]

Hung around for a bit post game.

As Boogs walked past, I said "Well done on the assist".

He gave a smile and a thumbs up.

I added "Good to see you get one for us!"

He stopped smiling....

[Jeterpool]

A lot has been made about the inability to convert chances despite a massive number of shots we're having on goal, so I went back and looked at last year for comparison.

In 29 fixtures last year, we had 386 shots in total, 163 were on target (42% accuracy) and we scored 58 goals (15% conversion).

In 11 fixtures (40% of the previous year total) this year we've had 194 shots (50% of the previous season total), 56 have been on target (29% accuracy) and we have scored 12 goals (6% conversion).

I don't have data on WHERE the shots are being taken but I can breakdown player shoot accuracy inside against outside the box.


Anyway, we've taken the most shots of ANY team this season and we have the lowest conversion rate. We're really inaccurate or shooting from poor positions with players blocking the shots.

[Jeterpool]

We should have been out of sight in that game last night. The free kick, the one-on-one save by Young's feet, DG deciding to pass in the second half when I think he would have skinned his opponent, Roy botching the Dimi cut back right at the end...any more?

It's classic Jets.

Maintaining morale and confidence is key, because if we continue to do what we are doing we will give someone a hiding. Our first half was really good.

[Macca]

I tend to think we are some confidence and luck away from being a very good team this season. I think the main thing missing is results, and overall performance level is generally pretty good, probably better than last year except for the clinical / rapid transition play we had in the first half of last season. Our results are worse than our performances deserve. Where I think last season we probably over achieved points/results wise for what our performances were.

I will add that you could easily argue that our "performances" are not as good because we are conceding more and scoring less therefore not playing as well. I'm probably moreso looking at general play and how we are looking in the game relative to that opponent.
Football is a low scoring game decided by a few, sometimes a single, key moments in the game that can be completely uncharacteristic of the other 99% of the game. But for the most part, if you're playing better than the opponent then you have a higher chance to win.

[MFKS]

We should have been out of sight in that game last night. The free kick, the one-on-one save by Young's feet, DG deciding to pass in the second half when I think he would have skinned his opponent, Roy botching the Dimi cut back right at the end...any more?

It's classic Jets.

Maintaining morale and confidence is key, because if we continue to do what we are doing we will give someone a hiding. Our first half was really good.

Our results no doubt suck

But I actually am more than happy with the way Bert has us playing


Luck Lack of ability and other things are currently running against us

But this is the best we have looked for a long long long time

Only 2 games in 11 have I felt we have been not in it and below par

Heart and Nix away

But every other game we have been smacking opposition about in general play

At some stage this will show up on the scoreboard

The teams play at maneuvering the ball from pen box to pen box has evolved heaps and I happy to ride this out

I dont think we have taken steps backward this year but actually forward

Bert has us on the right track

[baldrick]

I hate to agree with The Member, but I'm agreeing with The Member..

We're playing pretty well, the ball just isn't going into the back of the net. I know...it's kinda important that this does happen :wink:

Last year, they were going in. This year they are hitting the post/crossbar or the keeper is making a freakishly good save - Young made at least 2 last night.

Either that, or someone has put a largish piece of perspex over the goalmouth.

[Jetmaster]

This team does have that touch of "Arsenalitis" - one touch or pass too many, giving that split second allowing defenders to close us down.

Also I really did notice last night how the opposition ramps up the press on our midfield to force us back sometimes, or at least away from goal. Everyone is doing it now.

[mic22]

I hate to agree with The Member, but I'm agreeing with The Member..

We're playing pretty well, the ball just isn't going into the back of the net. I know...it's kinda important that this does happen :wink:

Last year, they were going in. This year they are hitting the post/crossbar or the keeper is making a freakishly good save - Young made at least 2 last night.

Either that, or someone has put a largish piece of perspex over the goalmouth.

I agree, too.
I remember leaving the stadium 2-3 years ago and thinking I could have used my 35 bucks in a much better way. And that happened on a regular basis, regardless of the final results.
Now the team plays good football, we're really just lacking in the final third. Which yeah, is kinda important... but the rest is ok - for a league standards.

[The Hacker]

Our results no doubt suck

But I actually am more than happy with the way Bert has us playing


Luck Lack of ability and other things are currently running against us

But this is the best we have looked for a long long long time

Only 2 games in 11 have I felt we have been not in it and below par

Heart and Nix away

But every other game we have been smacking opposition about in general play

At some stage this will show up on the scoreboard

The teams play at maneuvering the ball from pen box to pen box has evolved heaps and I happy to ride this out

I dont think we have taken steps backward this year but actually forward

Bert has us on the right track

I have to agree we aren't far away from it all clicking and we put 3-4 past a side. We are playing some good football without luck. If we couldn't create a chance I'd be worried but we are.
We also need to cast our minds back 2 seasons we were deadset the worst team in the league performance wise and we were disgraceful to watch. In less than 40 games we went from the worst team to watch to one of the more attractive teams to watch and we have made a grand final. We all know it can swing quickly so let's not be all doom and gloom

[plague]

Poor Member is sitting there frustrated that everyone is agreeing with him.
Dont worry mate you'll be back to upsetting everyone again in no time.

[MFKS]

Poor Member is sitting there frustrated that everyone is agreeing with him.
Dont worry mate you'll be back to upsetting everyone again in no time.

Frustrated??

Your assuming I actually care what other people think

Come on Plague
Your smarter than that to know I run my mouth 24/7 regardless whether people agree or not

That your worst post for the year so far

[redwah]

I hate to agree with The Member, but I'm agreeing with The Member..

We're playing pretty well, the ball just isn't going into the back of the net. I know...it's kinda important that this does happen :wink:

Last year, they were going in. This year they are hitting the post/crossbar or the keeper is making a freakishly good save - Young made at least 2 last night.

Either that, or someone has put a largish piece of perspex over the goalmouth.

Agree with baldrick on this too...and therefore I also agree with the member....

First half last night we should have been out of sight but last ditch blocks and fluke save conspired against that...kept roar in the game and the grew more confident that they could get something out of the game....which of course they did.

The goals will come...especially if Roy doesn’t butcher the chances like the one layer on th plate by Dimi.


Oh and baldrick....5-1.

[Retro Jet]

Did I hear correctly that stat related to Tagg's goal being his 18th at the ground and him now overtaking Lord Griff as the highest scorer at our ground?
If that's true, then for me it brings up several issues.
I find that figure disturbing in itself. I honestly thought it would be more. Really? Griff only banged in 17 on that ground??
(Everyone a divinely orchestrated masterpiece...of course :wink:)
The fact the 'record' belongs to someone no longer associated with our club to me is appauling. It speaks volumes about our history of recruitment and long term commitment of a regular goal scorer. How many has Brusque knocked in at Demolition Stadium over x number of years? Thompson probably banged in more than 20 at any Tard stadium you care to choose they've played at I'll bet. (5 in a certain game helps!)
If the owner and CEO are serious they need to look at investing in someone to become a regular goal scoring machine: year in, year out. I might make it sound simple but I'm only pointing out what I think is a long term symptom of our situation, and that stat is quite revealing.

JP, can you provide some quick stats on the next few highest goal scorers at HS and who in our current squad is the closest to the record please? Really curious on this one.

[Jeterpool]

Taggz has scored 18. Griffo has scored 17 - but that is in the A-League only. I expect Griffo scored for United at home back in the day.

Notable others:

Andrew Nabbout has 14 (13 with Jets)
Labi 11
Ryu 11
Brockie 11 (9 with Jets)
Mark Bridge 11 (7)
Petrovski 9 (7)
Thommo 8
Bridges 7
Brosque 7
Reinaldo 6
Smeltz and Fornaroli 5