18/19 HAL Round 11 | Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets | Sun 6th Jan 2019 500pm

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 11 Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 26 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 10, City Wins - 12, Drawn - 4


In Newcastle – 14 matches.
Jets Wins - 8, City Wins - 5, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 12 matches
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 7, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 10221
Average Away A-League Crowd - 7148

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 36, City - 52
In Melbourne -
Jets – 14, City - 29

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 12, City - 14

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 75 (74 yellow, 1 red), City 46 (44 yellow, 2 red)

Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - DLWLW (7 point from last 15)
City - WDWLW (10 points from last 15)

Leading Scorers
Jets - Ronald Vargas (3)
City – Ritchie de Laet (3)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 0 - Melbourne City 3 (McGree 2', Brattan 45+3', Wales 75') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 6, Season 2018/19

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Round 6

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Glen MossEugene Galekovic
Daniel GeorgievskiRitchie De Laet
Nigel BoogaardBart Schenkeveld
Nikolai Topor-StanleyHarrison Delbridge
Lachlan JacksonScott Jamieson
Steven UgarkovicKearyn Baccus
Ben KantarovskiFlorin Berenguer
Nick CowburnLuke Brattan
Jason HoffmanRiley McGRee
Dimitri PetratosLachlan Wales
Ronald VargasDario Vidosic



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015, Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15 and Jets 0 - City 4 (Cahill 12', Fitzgerald 65', Fornaroli 75' pen, Fornaroli 81') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 23 18/3/2017

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Bruno Fornaroli (10)



2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss1010018550010
3Jason Hoffman109167682140
4Nigel Boogaard1111009900030
5Ben Kantarovski108217290010
6Steven Ugarkovic1110138310020
7Dimitri Petratos1111009902300
8Jair Eduardo99096371100
9Roy O'Donovan33022602000
10Ronald Vargas1111039613000
11Mitch Austin4040680100
13Ivan Vujica52311750000
14Kaine Sheppard82622661210
16Nick Cowburn61502781000
17Daniel Georgievski1111029720140
18John Koutroumbis1100900010
20Lewis Italiano21101350000
22Lachlan Jackson76125040010
23Matthew Ridenton9451***0010
32Angus Thurgate4040440000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley1111009900110



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 6 matches
Ernie Merrick - 1 win, Warren Joyce - 4 wins, 1 draw

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 5 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 3 losses = 20% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Melbourne City Coach Record – Warren Joyce 60% win ratio (3 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss)

[evolution]

Loose.

Mcgree to get a hat trick and the gypo Wales to grab one for good measure. Jets to have 437 shots with none on target.

[plague]

20-0 loss.
I hate the Jets.
The Jets hate me.
Order is restored.

[Jetmaster]

Lose 3-0.

Us to have 34 shots.

Citeh to score all three goals from outside the box just to take the piss.

[mic22]

We're gonna have no more that 10 shots on goal, clinical counter-attack finishes, win 3-1.
Nabbout to score 2.
Oh, wait...

[MFKS]

Heart to have 30 shots

Jets to have 1

Win 1-0

#Karma

[Jeterpool]

Who expects Ernie to make changes this week? What changes do you think he will make?

I think he will return Jair in place of Koutroumbis. Ronny could also be rested.

[Jetmaster]

Agree Dave...think Ronny will miss this one to tee up for the two following. Boogs a possibility. Kanta may go a bit longer seeing he missed the first games. George has his regular suspensions to get him through.

[MFKS]

Agree Dave...think Ronny will miss this one to tee up for the two following. Boogs a possibility. Kanta may go a bit longer seeing he missed the first games. George has his regular suspensions to get him through.

Kanta is probably a special to be rested

Bloke is playing well but dont forget he has a long injury history

So no point flogging him when we can play Stevie U with Ridenton

[Jeterpool]

Kanta is probably a special to be rested

Bloke is playing well but dont forget he has a long injury history

So no point flogging him when we can play Stevie U with Ridenton

Agree. That's what I thinking when I brought it up on the podcast. His history can't be ignored - but they'll know how he's travelling. I can see him on the bench

[plague]

Kanta has been a machine this year. but history isnt fair to him when thinking he'll get through 'another' 3 games in quick succession away from home.
Ugaboogaman and Ridenton would work to give the newy legend a rest.

Also, with Honda out Victory look completely different.
Ernie better not be thinking anything other than 3 points from that game.

[StannyCFCJET]

Who expects Ernie to make changes this week? What changes do you think he will make?

I think he will return Jair in place of Koutroumbis. Ronny could also be rested.

Roy upfront. Hoffman to the right. Jair left Dimi middle. Cowburn and Kanta in the mids. Backline and GK the same. This is just what I want. Ugar and Vargas off form, Ridenton has done nothing to start. Hoff made a huge difference up front and Cowburn has been great when picked.

Ernie will only probs swap Jair and Ridenton with Hoff back to RB

[MFKS]

Roy upfront. Hoffman to the right. Jair left Dimi middle. Cowburn and Kanta in the mids. Backline and GK the same. This is just what I want. Ugar and Vargas off form, Ridenton has done nothing to start. Hoff made a huge difference up front and Cowburn has been great when picked.

Ernie will only probs swap Jair and Ridenton with Hoff back to RB

Did you watch the game the other night??

Ridenton was spraying passes about like Biscuits and done a great job of distributing the ball forward

The bloke deserves to start on Sunday based on his performance on Wednesday alone

[Jeterpool]

Did you watch the game the other night??

Ridenton was spraying passes about like Biscuits and done a great job of distributing the ball forward

The bloke deserves to start on Sunday based on his performance on Wednesday alone

I'll take your word for it. When I did notice him, he was getting in the way of Kanta and running around looking somewhat lost.

regardless I expect he will retain his spot alongside Stevie UG.

[plague]

I'll take your word for it. When I did notice him, he was getting in the way of Kanta and running around looking somewhat lost.


i def thought he had a rough start but def got more into it and seemed more than ok.

[The Hacker]

Kanta has been a machine this year. but history isnt fair to him when thinking he'll get through 'another' 3 games in quick succession away from home.
Ugaboogaman and Ridenton would work to give the newy legend a rest.

Also, with Honda out Victory look completely different.
Ernie better not be thinking anything other than 3 points from that game.

How close to right you were. I hear he didn't get through training Thursday and has done a quad or groin out for a month

[StannyCFCJET]

How close to right you were. I hear he didn't get through training Thursday and has done a quad or groin out for a month

Oh ****

[Frodo]

So City start with 3 Defensive mids.
3 attacking mids.
No striker.

They will somehow score 3 goals against us with our full strength backline, lol. We gonna suck.

[furns]

Kanta is out - having scans on a potential groin injury

[Bremsstrahlung]

Lol what

[Jetmaster]

Good start but Ronny is again worrying me.

[furns]

Great to be able to enjoy a live edition of The Scott Miller Drinking Game :lulz:

[plague]

there seems to be a lot of bitching between these Jets players.
was Vargas barking at Boogaard after getting his yellow early on?

[plague]

ok then.
sure sure.

[Jetmaster]

Good start but Ronny is again worrying me.

Hmmmphh....

[Retro Jet]

Park the bus Ernie
Take a draw :rof:

[evolution]

Well we just used up all our luck for the season on Roy’s goal, Bratten scores and it’s back to normal service now.

[furns]

Well this just became an exercise in futility :angry:

[Retro Jet]

Thanks Dimi...

[StannyCFCJET]

Next season anyone?

[The Dunster]

Can't wait for the post match presser. Ernie will be ripping the ffa a new one for that ridiculous send off.

[Jetmaster]

Can't see how that 2nd card was for dissent using the "Brosque Rule"....it was too quick.

[plague]

Next season anyone?

are you kidding?

there is so much more money to be made on these jokers.
or are there people out there who didnt take the $2.08 on offer for City?

[The Dunster]

If that was Brosque he wouldn't have even received a warning let alone a yellow card or send off.

**** the ffa. Totally over this biased aids infested league.

[plague]

Can't see how that 2nd card was for dissent using the "Brosque Rule"....it was too quick.

yeah look on one of the 36 different "sockah" shows on Fox this week it would be interesting if someone did a little side by side comparison on what some players get away with.

[380]

And there you have it Ben Wilson and his crew destroying another game. His officials can't even lie properly to cover there own abortion. Telling Fox that Ronnies second yellow was for dissent, what a load of corrupt crap, Anybody with the opportunity to see the replay will see Kurt " i am a useless prick as a ref " already has his card out before Ronnie gobs off.

Said it before and i will say it again. These fu^&ing clowns at FFA are as corrupt as they come because incompetent performances by referees would see them dropped but you can bet your backside Kurt will be running around again next weekend leaving corruption as the only reasonable explanation. It has got to the stage where an inquiry should be held to see who has betting accounts employed at FFA and who is betting on what.

The only fair dinkum games we have had this season was when the Jap refs were here. FFA want to know why the game is going backwards with the punters then they need to look no further than themselves and there crooked performance at running the game.

Gallop will go down as one of the biggest flops in sport administration this country has ever seen. These pricks at FFA have fuc&^d football in this country protecting these useless officials.

[evolution]

So we just going to ignore that the ball was over the line?

[plague]

Great to be able to enjoy a live edition of The Scott Miller Drinking Game :lulz:

How good was his comment that he didnt see Topor get kicked in the leg because of the shadows?

I love it so much that such a tosser hates our guts.

[The Dunster]

Surely that was a goal. Galekovic took the ball behind the line

[Jetmaster]

This is bizarre.

1. Ronny 2nd yellow for "dissent" before he even said anything.
2. Topor clearly kicked....not even looked at.
3. Eugene may have taken that over the line...at least look at it.

Time for Lawrie and Griff to step in and complain. It is beyond ridiculous now.

[plague]

So we just going to ignore that the ball was over the line?

i was so excited to see VAR rule the ball over the line........then straight away rule the goal out for a foul.


shame we dont have goal line technology except the game where the ball goes over the line for Sydney FC and the refs like "yo i found it in the back of the cupboard this morning thats def a goal"

[Jetmaster]

Idiots on Fux say it was a foul....but it wasnt as a corner was given.

[mic22]

What a complete farce this league is.
Not that we didn't already know...
I will send a complaint form to ffa asking for a refund of my 4.99.
Even 20 cents would be a theft for this sh*t show.

[Hunter403]

The only place in this world where Boogs fouled Eugene is coloured blue.

The only question is did the ball completely cross the goal line. If it did, goal.

Why no goal line camera??

[The Dunster]

City haved kicked or thrown the ball away after conceding a free kick several times. Jets bplayers protest. Ref does fuk all.

[plague]

so now we have the City handball, the Vargas handball, the topor leg kick and the topor shirt pull.
Problem is all of these decisions are subjective.

All of them can be seen as clear cut, or soft, but id contend pretty much all of them are the same level of "are they or arent they".

but he gave one very very quickly, then then he flatly ignored the others.

thats why people have a problem with consistency.

[Negative Police]

Thank god the season is done. The refs hate us more than coasties

[Hunter403]

Why no VAR involvement with NTS being pulled back in the box?

[The Dunster]

Ridenton you goose

[plague]

Why no VAR involvement with NTS being pulled back in the box?

the ref HAS to know he cocked up the Vargas yellow situation.
he'd be praying for an easy square up call.

cant believe he hasnt just let one rip. its not as if he hasnt had chances.

[furns]

How good was his comment that he didnt see Topor get kicked in the leg because of the shadows?

I love it so much that such a tosser hates our guts.
Really? I dont get that from Miller at all. I get the impression hes still very attached to us, not the other way around.
You want to hear a commentator that hates us you need to listen to Andy "2 penos" Harper

[The Dunster]

Is Brattan seeking legal action against his barber / hair stylist.

Holy crap thats a bad haircut

[cobra23]

**** I can’t stand that bratten .,
And to make it worse every time I look at him it makes me feel that I’m at a roxette concert

[plague]

Really? I dont get that from Miller at all. I get the impression hes still very attached to us, not the other way around.
You want to hear a commentator that hates us you need to listen to Andy "2 penos" Harper

oh agreed, for sheer volume Harper and Slater (when his kid was playing for the gypos) have Miller covered.

[plague]

De Lat looks like when they made him, they put a Medium head on an Extra Large body.
Can believe he got through quality control looking like that.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jackson on? Taking the piss

[Jetmaster]

De Lat looks like when they made him, they put a Medium head on an Extra Large body.
Can believe he got through quality control looking like that.

Zlatan went through that same machine.

[plague]

Liam Christenson
‏

@Pro_Life_Liver
1h1 hour ago

Mutiple White dudes in Kurt Ames’ face telling him to “f*** off”. He yellow cards dark guy and sends him off for saying the same thing. Here I was thinking racism was “kicked out” of the Aleague ����*♂️ #MCYvNEW


well, we didnt win lads, we copped some bad calls lads, but if theres one bright spot on the day, its that 'woke twitter' is well and truly with us.


and let this also be your daily reminder that Australia has compulsory voting.

[The Dunster]

Miller hates Newy if he thinks Roy wasnt brought down in the box.

It's beyond a joke this refereeing.

[BP Super Dynamos]

Lachlan Jackson is so bad

[Jetmaster]

Whole game will be waved away with Socceroos playing tonight.
Kossie on Shootout our only hope.

[furns]

Kurt Ams should never ref in this league again, but will be defended to the hilt by the FFA regardless of his performance because "Respect".
Farcical.

Capped off one of the worst A-League refereeing performances by giving Boogs a yellow for a completely legitimate tackle in the final minute of stoppage time.

[Hunter403]

Great Newy spirit (even the Member might agree)
Sh1t refereeing

We need to start wearing light blue if we ever want a fair shake from refs

[MFKS]

First up

I would like to.congratulate the 10 blokes who busted their arse out there today

It actually shows how far we have come as a club

In years gone by after 2 games already this week in torrid conditions and going down to 10 as we did it would have been easy to see us fall.apart and ship 4/5/6 etc

But credit to these blokes for not only.digging in but having a red hot go



As for the referee gee whiz that will take some explaining

[MFKS]

Really? I dont get that from Miller at all. I get the impression hes still very attached to us, not the other way around.
You want to hear a commentator that hates us you need to listen to Andy "2 penos" Harper

At one stage today he was talking about the Jets and let slip the word "US"

Dont usually hear that from.commentators unless Slater is commentating on a BlueAids game

[StannyCFCJET]

If Kurt Ams ever gets appointed to a Jets game again I hope we refuse to play

[mic22]

Ref was embarrassing, disgraceful, can't find the words really.
However... it wasn't very clever of Ronny to shout f*ck off right in his face.
Everyone knows only Brosque is allowed to do that.
Ronny looked very nervous from the start... looking for a way out?

[Jetmaster]

Only rumour....but word around social media already that VAR (under Zetter) was not functioning properly, hence no reviews whatsoever.

[boz-monaut]

double effay has a new tactic with VAR to turn it off when the refereeing us so bad that seeing it in slow motion only makes it worse for these incompetent nincompoops

[sorefootballer]

Only rumour....but word around social media already that VAR (under Zetter) was not functioning properly, hence no reviews whatsoever.

Wouldn't this be a hoot

[380]

For the life of me i don't think i have ever watched a competition anywhere in the world where the refs have an influence over the results like this one. Week after week these pea brains such as Beath,Gillett and Ams just ruin games with there inability to just do there jobs properly.

[Jetmaster]

For the life of me i don't think i have ever watched a competition anywhere in the world where the refs have an influence over the results like this one. Week after week these pea brains such as Beath,Gillett and Ams just ruin games with there in ability to just do there jobs properly.

I blame the "Godfather", Matthew Breeze. From there we went to Ben Williams and it has got worse since.

[Tommyjet]

I actually expected Vargas to be rested. Was gash last game and his frustration levels have been rising rapidly of late.

[plague]

Capped off one of the worst A-League refereeing performances by giving Boogs a yellow for a completely legitimate tackle in the final minute of stoppage time.

actually this is a lost but very valid point in the whole ref debate.
that was such a blatantly wrong call, not only to call a foul but to offer up a card.
i think this was the worst decision he made all day, but due to it being at the end of the game no one will care.

refs boss should hook him on that one alone.

[plague]

Was gash last game and his frustration levels have been rising rapidly of late.

yeah after he gave away the first yellow Captain Obvious must have said something to him because he unloaded. there were **** offs, finger wags and general dismissiveness. from there you could tell he was gonna have a rough rest of the game.
Obviously Ernie cant hook him after 5 min but he seems like he was wound up pretty tightly the second it kicked off.
Captain and Coach should have tried to water that one down.

[MFKS]

yeah after he gave away the first yellow Captain Obvious must have said something to him because he unloaded. there were **** offs, finger wags and general dismissiveness. from there you could tell he was gonna have a rough rest of the game.
Obviously Ernie cant hook him after 5 min but he seems like he was wound up pretty tightly the second it kicked off.
Captain and Coach should have tried to water that one down.

No **** him

Both cards were brain dead stupid things to do

If that was Boogaard I would be currently burning an effigy on the streets of Kotara South


I backing next Saturday Dimi goes into 10 and we start to look a lot better without this princess in the side

[plague]

I backing next Saturday Dimi goes into 10 and we start to look a lot better without this princess in the side

other than fitness you'd have to think the easy option is Dimi in the middle (which im also happy to see) and Jair or Shep Proudfoot out wide.

id keep everyone else as is, they put in a great effort today. let em get their revenge next match.

[380]

No **** him

Both cards were brain dead stupid things to do

If that was Boogaard I would be currently burning an effigy on the streets of Kotara South


I backing next Saturday Dimi goes into 10 and we start to look a lot better without this princess in the side

Regardless of what you may have heard during the Fox broadcast about his second yellow being for mouthing off that is total rubbish and officials trying to cover there asses for the poor handball call.

Considering you are man of great detail you would have picked up useless Ams already had the yellow out before Vargas gobbed off meaning he pulled the yellow out for the handball which was a stupid decision making your claim that the second yellow is brain dead stupid. I know you not a Ronnie fan but that second yellow was not for gobbing off.

[plague]

i think the handball actually took a deflection off a defender right before it hit him.
so even if we're being petty on the 'hand to ball/ball to hand thing', the point remains that the 2nd yellow wasnt due to his stupidity.



but


even if the ref didnt pull out the yellow for the handball, ive no doubt Ronnie was going to explode over the penalty decision anyway and still would have ended up copping a 2nd for dissent.

he was off his meds tonight. no hiding that.

[MFKS]

Regardless of what you may have heard during the Fox broadcast about his second yellow being for mouthing off that is total rubbish and officials trying to cover there asses for the poor handball call.

Considering you are man of great detail you would have picked up useless Ams already had the yellow out before Vargas gobbed off meaning he pulled the yellow out for the handball which was a stupid decision making your claim that the second yellow is brain dead stupid. I know you not a Ronnie fan but that second yellow was not for gobbing off.

If he hadnt of needlessly taken a ****ing dive after the hand ball he aint getting booked is he??
Also why is his hands therr in the first place??
That not how you defend corners

As for the first foul Dimi does the exact thing 20 times a game but doesnt kick someone needlesdly


All Vargas problems today arr entirely self inflicted

[turbojetfireV8]

Ernie
https://foxsportspmd-a.akamaihd.net/free/nogeoblock/2019/01/06/DVU_060119_FOT_JETS_PRESSER_201901061945/DVU_060119_FOT_JETS_PRESSER_201901061945_1596.mp4

[plague]

Ernie
https://foxsportspmd-a.akamaihd.net/free/nogeoblock/2019/01/06/DVU_060119_FOT_JETS_PRESSER_201901061945/DVU_060119_FOT_JETS_PRESSER_201901061945_1596.mp4

that was great.
id love to play for him.

[Bremsstrahlung]

1. I thought we played pretty well. With 10 men they never really looked like running away with it. We looked more likely to score and they seemed happy with 2-1. In the words of Scotty J at the end, city were “f***ing shit”.
2. Love listening to Ernie talk tactics. So do other coaches I bet. Interesting we went to 441, then changed things at half time when he had time to coach. Reassured me he hasn’t completely lost his marbles.
3. Vargas red. He was always gonna see red this game. From the moment he gave somebody the big ones for their feedback regarding him trying to hold it and beat 5 players.
He was preparing himself to clear with a volley, then old mate beat him to it and flicked it up into his arm. Not a massive problem with the call. Probably 50/50. Of course it’s against us though. VAR would’ve given it to them anyway.
The yellow was 100% for handball. Vargas didn’t even have a chance to open his mouth. So it’s a bit of a crock that that’s a yellow for dissent. Bloody hell, if we dishing out cards for dissent, most games won finish and there’ll be some high profile red cards.
4. I though their second took a deflection. italiano has to do better there for me. It goes in in the middle third. If that was BK we’d be hanging him out to dry. Not a bad game for him.
5. Brattan is a ****
6. Wales is also. Asking for VAR and telling linesman to keep his flag down.

[Retro Jet]

Can someone please clarify why Galekovic wasn't carded for handling outside the box when Roy scored?
Is it due to an advantage play rule?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Can someone please clarify why Galekovic wasn't carded for handling outside the box when Roy scored?
Is it due to an advantage play rule?

Haven’t seen a replay since but I thought it came off his shoulder? Edit: came of his head it appears. There’s an angle from behind that shows it hit his head.
If he handled and we didn’t score it should be a red. The advantage should only downgrade it to a yellow. Much like Vargas, the fact a pen is given or goal scored only works for direct red cards, not yellows.

I also think Ams trapped himself with his yellow for handball just prior to Vargas.

[mic22]

I also think Ams trapped himself with his yellow for handball just prior to Vargas.

... And this is the same Ams who didn't send off Bowles a few weeks ago after 3-4 yellow card fouls in the first half.
It's not even double standards anymore: it's Newcastle standard.

[plague]

is it automaitc pen and yellow for handball inside the box?

because the Roar dude did exact the same as Ronny in the late game.

if its the case why didnt the ref in the Jets game say "yellow and pen for the handball as per the rules".

to go on and lie about the dissent angle makes it look 10,000 times worse.

[Bon]

Well, after 3 weeks of holidays, I'm back at work and ready to vent..
I don't even know where to start on the ref debacle.. Some of the most insane, non-sensical, biased, brain-dead, illogical, infuriating, add-whatever-fvcking-adjective-you-want, sh!t that you can ever see..
I can't even fathom it... I just need to know where to complain/spam/write to/abuse/unleash the burning bile inside of me..


The only thing I can do, is focus on the fact that the 10 blokes who were out there never gave up and tried their all till the end..
10 men will very rarely beat 12, and I'm proud and want to recognise their efforts..

[MFKS]

... And this is the same Ams who didn't send off Bowles a few weeks ago after 3-4 yellow card fouls in the first half.
It's not even double standards anymore: it's Newcastle standard.

Same Ams who was made to not ref week2 this season after ballsing up a VAR call in the Melbourne Derby heping his beloved Heart again

So that is 3 timea in 11 rounds he has had shockers


I do though feel sorry for the FFA this morning trying to come up with a way of giving Newy a level up thanks to Kurts shenaigans
Their hands are tied when it Victree and Blue Aids up next for the Jets

Gonna be a bit harder for the refs in those games to help the FFAs fave teams now without the undue scrutiny from Newy that Ams will have delivered on them

[plague]

Gonna be a bit harder for the refs in those games to help the FFAs fave teams now without the undue scrutiny from Newy that Ams will have delivered on them

they'll probably just send a few gypos off next week whoever they're playing to keep us happy.

[380]

Well, after 3 weeks of holidays, I'm back at work and ready to vent..
I don't even know where to start on the ref debacle.. Some of the most insane, non-sensical, biased, brain-dead, illogical, infuriating, add-whatever-fvcking-adjective-you-want, sh!t that you can ever see..
I can't even fathom it... I just need to know where to complain/spam/write to/abuse/unleash the burning bile inside of me..


The only thing I can do, is focus on the fact that the 10 blokes who were out there never gave up and tried their all till the end..
10 men will very rarely beat 12, and I'm proud and want to recognise their efforts..


That would be Email: reception@ffa.com.au

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

The Galekovic goal line things is very interesting..
Has anyone seen any conclusive angles of the ball and line?

[380]

is it automaitc pen and yellow for handball inside the box?

because the Roar dude did exact the same as Ronny in the late game.

if its the case why didnt the ref in the Jets game say "yellow and pen for the handball as per the rules".

to go on and lie about the dissent angle makes it look 10,000 times worse.

That was the point i tried to make yesterday to the member, The card was already out for the handball,And yes you were correct the handball that deflected off another and into Vargas.

The mere fact the officials come up with shit to cover there own asses is as crooked as it comes bordering on corrupt behaviour and one that should see Ben Wilson removed from his post.

We are getting to the stage where the lack of action from within Football Federation Australia to acknowledge and rectify these damning and obvious failings that if any public Govt funds in the way of grants are making there way to FFA then the supporters of the game should and would be entitled to demand from the relevant state or federal politicians an inquiry in to the running of FFA. It is my understanding any Govt grants to sporting organisations state or fed come with certain conditions and i would think responsible governance would be right at the pointy end and in particular the performance of game day officials.

I have no idea how the Ref Director has kept his position for so long. Blokes hand should shake every payday.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Oh the last point was how on earth have we not got a goal line camera? Especially with all this VAR rubbish.
Do we have the same goal line watch as the epl?

[mic22]

Had a better look at the penalty incident... I'm not convinced that was even a penalty.
Admitting my ignorance, I went to the FIFA website looking for the rules.
https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/datdz0pms85gbnqy4j3k.pdf

Excerpts from page 37:
"A penalty kick is awarded if... a player... handles the ball deliberately inside his own penalty area"
How could Vargas possibly hit the ball deliberately when it was deflected 2 metres from his body and his hands were in a pretty neutral position (i.e. in front of his body)?

page 121:
"Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
infringement"

Now, where does RV move his hands towards the ball? He doesn't.
Unexpected ball? You bet.

IMO, there was no penalty, just a clear misjudgment from the ref. What makes it even worse, he had a perfect view.
The action was pretty quick, but he didn't feel the need for a VAR call (assuming VAR was functioning...).
Same situation 2 minute earlier... totally opposite call. That's the Newcastle standard.

One can only imagine the level of frustration Vargas must have felt. He's gonna cop 4 games for abusing the ref.

[mic22]

Cautionable offences:

A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the following seven offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game
• delaying the restart of play
• failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner
kick, free kick or throw-in
• entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
• deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission

I can't find any reference to yellow cards for handballs in the box...

EDIT:
page 121:
There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour, e.g. if a player:

• handles the ball to prevent an opponent gaining possession or developing an attack (other than the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

[Bon]

Love your work mic22..
It's just making me even more infuriated and frustrated with the officiating yesterday..

I was just reading an article on TWG where they were pretty scathing about it too:

Such a decision, allegedly a result of dissent, was brought into further disrepute after replays confirmed the yellow card on its way after the initial incident, an unintentional handball.

This standard of officiating was one of several stains witnessed throughout the contest, with Nikolai Topor-Stanley notably unfortunate to avoid a deserved penalty in the second half.

It’s not the first time Ams has found himself in hot water with the whistle, having received a one-match suspension from Football Federation Australia for a costly penalty blunder in round one’s Melbourne Derby.

Former Socceroos goalkeeper Mark Bosnich branded Ams’ actions “disgraceful” on the night, and after Sunday’s iteration, he wasn’t the only one.

I'm sure that as usual, there will be lots of talk, but bugger all done about it..

[Jetmaster]

For some reason the terms "intentional" and "unexpected ball" are ignored when they are actually in the rules. "Unnatural position" is not in the rules but commentators keep bringing it up.

The subterfuge last night reminded be if the Sydney Derby coverup at the start of the season ( and the GF for that matter) Outright lying by the officials

[mic22]

For some reason the terms "intentional" and "unexpected ball" are ignored when they are actually in the rules. "Unnatural position" is not in the rules but commentators keep bringing it up.

The subterfuge last night reminded be if the Sydney Derby coverup at the start of the season ( and the GF for that matter) Outright lying by the officials

"Unnatural position" makes sense to me, e.g. going into an aerial contest with the arms up, like a volleyball block: even if the ball is deflected or the arms don't move towards the ball, the intention is clear.
This was obviously not the case for Vargas: his arms were in a perfectly reasonable position, he was ready to kick and the ball was deflected.

[MFKS]

That was the point i tried to make yesterday to the member, The card was already out for the handball,And yes you were correct the handball that deflected off another and into Vargas.

The mere fact the officials come up with shit to cover there own asses is as crooked as it comes bordering on corrupt behaviour and one that should see Ben Wilson removed from his post.

We are getting to the stage where the lack of action from within Football Federation Australia to acknowledge and rectify these damning and obvious failings that if any public Govt funds in the way of grants are making there way to FFA then the supporters of the game should and would be entitled to demand from the relevant state or federal politicians an inquiry in to the running of FFA. It is my understanding any Govt grants to sporting organisations state or fed come with certain conditions and i would think responsible governance would be right at the pointy end and in particular the performance of game day officials.

I have no idea how the Ref Director has kept his position for so long. Blokes hand should shake every payday.

As I said yesterday

Upon the ball hitting Vargas hands he dived on the ground

**** knows why as the force of the ball wasnt enough to knock him over

To me he tried conning the ref with a dive to disguise the handball and was right fully carded for his play acting


No dramas with the 1st Vargas card or the penalty award or even the Gakekovic carry over the line incident though it was a foul by us anyway

Drama with Plagues mate Boogaards card for kicking the ball into sideline and the 3 pens we were denied by the cheating ****

[380]

Nah man you hate on Vargas for weeks now and using Ams weak as piss crooked performance to maintain the hate.

It was as much a legit handball as Two Dads was v WSW last season and we know how that was adjudicated post game.

You, Ams and those corrupt lot at FFA including Ams boss Wilson would have to be the only ones trying to legitimize a terrible decision and if it were one of your faves you would be in meltdown over the decision but your hate for Ronnie has clouded your judgement.

I feel like i am having to do Plagues job and make you see reason through the hate.

[Jetmaster]

NBN just reported Greg O'Rourke stating all ref calls were correct and that there is video evidence of dissent before the card.

I give up.

[Bremsstrahlung]

“Poota!!!!! .....Ya cards away Kurt”

[380]

NBN just reported Greg O'Rourke stating all ref calls were correct and that there is video evidence of dissent before the card.

I give up.

Then O Rourke is just as big a halfwit as Gallop and Wilson. Lets not forget this the same O Rourke who was all excited about Bolt and wanted pretend flares and music and shit. His credibility in his role should at FFA should also be under the microscope.

[Jetmaster]

Gets better watching A-League Hour Guess which club has the least red cards in their favour over the last two and a bit seasons?

Equal with the other FFA faves Nux and Scum.

[MFKS]

Nah man you hate on Vargas for weeks now and using Ams weak as piss crooked performance to maintain the hate.

It was as much a legit handball as Two Dads was v WSW last season and we know how that was adjudicated post game.

You, Ams and those corrupt lot at FFA including Ams boss Wilson would have to be the only ones trying to legitimize a terrible decision and if it were one of your faves you would be in meltdown over the decision but your hate for Ronnie has clouded your judgement.

I feel like i am having to do Plagues job and make you see reason through the hate.

Hate on Vargas??

No they your words

I just reckon he is over rated and does fancy little flicks on half way yet fails to deliver in the final 3rd where he is actually being paid to deliver the point of difference for us

But no you keep playing the hate agenda card when it aint there

As I said I have no drama with that being a penalty. Why his hands are there defies belief for a professional level player
Seen plenty given for the same type of incident

Can you expllain why he hit the floor dramatically other than trying to deceive the ref that what had happened hadnt actually happened??
Because that is worthy of a card right there

[Jeterpool]

As I said I have no drama with that being a penalty. Why his hands are there defies belief for a professional level player
Seen plenty given for the same type of incident


I can accept the Vargas penalty if the Jets got one for a similar incident involving City earlier. Both players couldn't react, both were from a reflection, both were speculative chances.

[mic22]

Just cancelled my weekly subscription to MyFootballApp.
Reason for cancelling: Other
Detailed reason: Kurt Ams :D
I've done my part :D

[380]

The game is being run by liars at FFA HQ who all too often have to go in to damage control rallying around there own and creating so much bullshit to save each others incompetent crooked backsides.

You can have expansion and all that other stuff but until the likes of Gallop and Wilson are removed from there positions the basket case they have created will only expand so to speak.

Can anybody honestly appraise there performances over the years they have held there respective positions and say the game is in a better state that when they started ?. The answer is a resounding NO and as such they should be moved on failing in there duty of looking after the game.

The mere fact they come out with some of the utter false shit they do is clear enough evidence they take football fans in this country for idiots and incapable of seeing through there garbage.

From Gallops driving seat he has just about driven the game in this country off a cliff and Wilson has allowed the farce that is his area of so called responsibility to the point where fans of the game no longer believe the players will ultimately decide the outcomes of games but his incompetent officials.