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Jeterpool
08-01-2019, 09:59 AM
A-League 2018/19 Round 13 Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets
FIXTURE FACTS
Overall – 41 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 16, Victory Wins - 16, Drawn - 9
In Newcastle – 21 matches.
Jets Wins - 10, Victory Wins - 5, Drawn - 6
In Melbourne - 20 matches
Jets Wins - 6, Victory Wins - 11, Drawn - 3
Average Home A-League Crowd – 11219
Average Away A-League Crowd - 17792
Goals in Fixture
Jets – 54, Victory - 56
In Melbourne -
Jets – 21, Victory - 34
1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 19, Victory - 19
Cards in Fixture
Jets - 81 (75 yellow, 6 red), Victory 72 (68 yellow, 4 red)
Recent Form (A-League)
Jets - LDLWL (4 point from last 15)
Victory - WDDWW (11 points from last 15)
Leading Scorers
Jets - Ronald Vargas (3)
Victory – Ola Toivonen (7)
Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 0 - Melbourne Victory 1 (Antonis 71') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 3, Season 2018/19
Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Round 3
Newcastle JetsMelbourne Victory
Glen MossLawrence Thomas
Daniel GeorgievskiStorm Roux
Nigel BoogaardGeorg Niedermeier
Nikolai Topor-StanleyThomas Deng
Lachlan JacksonCorey Brown
Steven UgarkovicCarl Valeri
Matthew RidentonTerry Antonis
Ronald VargasJames Troisi
Jason HoffmanKeisuke Honda
Dimitri PetratosKosta Barbarouses
Jair EduardoJai Ingham
FIXTURE RECORDS
Biggest Win
Jets 4 (Bridge 36’, Bridge 48’, Coveny 51’, J Griffiths 73’) – Victory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 21, Season 2006/07, 19/01/2007.
Heaviest Defeat
Jets 0 – Victory 5 (Hernandez 41’, Thompson 50’, Allsopp 61’, Allsopp 64’, Brebner 90’), Round 3, Season 2008/09 at Telstra Dome, 29/08/2008.
Leading Scorers in fixture –
Jets - Joel Griffiths (5)
Victory - Archie Thompson (7)
2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS
NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss1010018550010
3Jason Hoffman1110178492140
4Nigel Boogaard12120010800040
5Ben Kantarovski108217290010
6Steven Ugarkovic1211149200020
7Dimitri Petratos12120010802300
8Jair Eduardo109196461100
9Roy O'Donovan44023503000
10Ronald Vargas1212039863001
11Mitch Austin4040680100
13Ivan Vujica52311750000
14Kaine Sheppard92722671210
16Nick Cowburn61501521000
17Daniel Georgievski12120310530140
18John Koutroumbis22001800010
20Lewis Italiano32102250000
22Lachlan Jackson86225130020
23Matthew Ridenton105515630010
32Angus Thurgate4040440000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley12120010800110
COACHING
Coaches Head to Head – 5 matches
Ernie Merrick - 2 wins, Kevin Muscat - 3 wins, 0 drawn
Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –
Ernie Merrick - 5 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 40% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 losses = 63% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans – No Matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 loss = 0% win ratio)
Melbourne Victory Coach Record – Kevin Muscat 44% win ratio (8 wins, 5 drawn, 5 losses)
TALKING POINTS:
General
Roy O'Donovan has scored 12 goals in 20 appearances for the Jets. He's now =8th in overall A-League goals for the club.
The Jets haven't won in 10 consecutive matches in Victoria.
Nikolai Topor-Stanley has made played in 54 consecutive A-League matches for the Jets, starting back in his last season with the club. This is the 4th highest overall streak in the club's history.
The Jets have scored in 17 of the 18 away games under Ernie Merrick.
Topor-Stanley has passed Matt Thompson 121 A-League appearances for the club and now sits 3rd in overall standings.
Jeterpool
08-01-2019, 10:10 AM
FYI I am thinking about reducing the match previews I put out each week. I am struggling to get the opportunity to do each week and take the time to find specific bits of data.
Things that will drop off will be top scorers, form and the talking points. The talking points in particular take a long time to research and review. Stuff that I can make automatically calculate or produce will remain.
One day maybe they'll come back - it's not goodbye forever but have a bit of a break.
Hope you all understand.
plague
08-01-2019, 10:41 AM
We'll win.
Is the premier still the spot for away games? Usually just watch at home or bowlo, thinking about a change of scenery
StannyCFCJET
12-01-2019, 05:07 PM
Is the premier still the spot for away games? Usually just watch at home or bowlo, thinking about a change of scenery
I normally do wests
Jetmaster
12-01-2019, 08:57 PM
Fuxwits assuming Jair is a straight swap for Ronny and will be playmaker.
So are we gonna sabotage ourselves tonight or will it be the ref or VAR that will **** us
Gypos blowing a 2-0 lead is more than enough for us for the weekend
plague
12-01-2019, 09:05 PM
not even watching. my weekend is complete already thanks to the mighty Phoenix and Agent BK.
Retro Jet
12-01-2019, 09:07 PM
So are we gonna sabotage ourselves tonight or will it be the ref or VAR that will **** us
Gypos blowing a 2-0 lead is more than enough for us for the weekend
I'm on an ICE between Kassel n München. WiFi just came on. Saw the sCCuM details and lol'd.
"2-0...and you f***ed it up" :rof:
Ridenton in the middle, eh?
This will be a larf.
foti68
12-01-2019, 09:40 PM
Ridenton is the new Jacob Pepper
He finds feet regularly the oppositions.
deadset i dont Know what Ernie sees in him
StannyCFCJET
12-01-2019, 09:41 PM
If this is Ernie's tactics then he needs new input and ideas from the coaching staff
plague
12-01-2019, 09:43 PM
Johnny K is getting away with far too many lucky/well timed challenges in the box.
you just know the poor bugger is gonna get burned on one of them...............prob in the 112th minute.
Jetmaster
12-01-2019, 09:48 PM
Getting into great positions but gee we faff around with it.
If this is Ernie's tactics then he needs new input and ideas from the coaching staff
Nothing wrong with his tactics
Execution by the players is another matter
Georgevski has had miles of room and whipped in 58655677 crosses this half. Every single one though was shit
Hoffman needs to get in the game as he been pretty anonymous
Going well
Still will find a way to **** this up though
Johnny K is getting away with far too many lucky/well timed challenges in the box.
you just know the poor bugger is gonna get burned on one of them...............prob in the 112th minute.
Johnny K knows exactly what he doing in the box
If anyone gonna cost us with a mis timed tackle in the box we know exactly which Nigel it will be AGAIN
StannyCFCJET
12-01-2019, 09:51 PM
Nothing wrong with his tactics
Execution by the players is another matter
Georgevski has had miles of room and whipped in 58655677 crosses this half. Every single one though was shit
Hoffman needs to get in the game as he been pretty anonymous
Going well
Still will find a way to **** this up though
Exactly crosses rnt working so try something else
plague
12-01-2019, 10:05 PM
well at least he dived.
The Dunster
12-01-2019, 10:11 PM
Jests are absolutely horrible. Dimi holds the ball when he should shoot and shoots when he should hold it up or pass.
Dimi is is the problem. Not Vargas.
The Dunster
12-01-2019, 10:14 PM
Ridenton can pass the ball well. But he's easily pushed off the ball.
StannyCFCJET
12-01-2019, 10:15 PM
Jests are absolutely horrible. Dimi holds the ball when he should shoot and shoots when he should hold it up or pass.
Dimi is is the problem. Not Vargas.
This is a fair shout. But they are both the problem
Told you he was trash Plague
Total ****ing trash
StannyCFCJET
12-01-2019, 10:25 PM
Is Ernie asleep
boz-monaut
12-01-2019, 10:34 PM
not exactly text book technique but I'll take it
The Dunster
12-01-2019, 10:35 PM
Shepherd must give a poor quality wristy. Bloke should start every week.
The Dunster
12-01-2019, 10:36 PM
Why isnt that a red card for Valeri. No way Roy would get away with that shit.
BP Super Dynamos
12-01-2019, 10:41 PM
Anyone got Birraz number?
weston
12-01-2019, 10:41 PM
When’s Moss back?
boz-monaut
12-01-2019, 10:41 PM
and that's why we need a new goalkeeper
and defence
new attackers would probably be a good idea too
BP Super Dynamos
12-01-2019, 10:43 PM
Why isnt that a red card for Valeri. No way Roy would get away with that shit.
Same with Clisby's attempt on Fenton in the earlier match. There's no consistency whatsoever
weston
12-01-2019, 10:44 PM
Anyone got Birraz number?
I was just thinking to myself whilst watching this farce...... and Birrighitti is sitting on the bench elsewhere.
The Dunster
12-01-2019, 10:45 PM
Pathetic. We look great when we play direct but spend more time piss farting about with the ball.
The poor clearance by Ridenton was always going to cost us and it did.
No idea why I follow these khunts.
StannyCFCJET
12-01-2019, 10:46 PM
I'm sorry but if Ernie keeps selecting Jair and Ridenton he can leave at seasons end
Jetmaster
12-01-2019, 10:47 PM
As soon as Ridenton lost that ball I audibly said "goal".
We are poor and getting worse every week....finals are gone. Nobody has any confidence or looks desperate
mic22
12-01-2019, 10:49 PM
I feel for Dimi.
Whatever happened to him
No excuses tonight.
This game is about scoring goals, and we f#€&ing can't
Can't remember the last time Dimi just played a simple 1-2 with a team mate. Too many touches and needs dropping
plague
12-01-2019, 10:52 PM
Told you he was trash Plague
Total ****ing trash
I thought you liked Ridenton?
I thought you liked Ridenton?
Was talking about your mate Jair
****ing hopeless
sorefootballer
12-01-2019, 10:54 PM
Getting pretty annoying watching this team week in week out. Another fun year hey lads
Ridenton was trash in a trash team last season. Why the hell Ernie signed him i will never know.
Next time Ernie wants to sign a Nix player lets hope it is somebody who knows how to at least play the game.
plague
12-01-2019, 10:58 PM
Was talking about your mate Jair
****ing hopeless
Hes a perfect microcosm of this team.
Theres something there, but hes so low on confidence you wonder what hes even doing out there.
I think theres a bag of goals in him.
I'd also have no problem starting Shepperd over him next week.
That's just how it is with this team at the moment.
Ridenton was trash in a trash team last season. Why the hell Ernie signed him i will never know.
Next time Ernie wants to sign a Nix player lets hope it is somebody who knows hot to at least play the game.
You are talking out your arse
Bloke is very good on the ball and will be a great player in time
Nah man. Last time i looked will and is are two different things.
Tommyjet
12-01-2019, 11:02 PM
Ridenton was trash in a trash team last season. Why the hell Ernie signed him i will never know.
Next time Ernie wants to sign a Nix player lets hope it is somebody who knows how to at least play the game.
You obviously didn't watch the nix last season.
Nah man. Last time i looked will and is are two different things.
Ridenton was not responsible for us not winning this game
Matter of fact it was his effectiveness that gave us ample opportunity to win it
Our useless keeper FFS Italiano made me wish BK was here still and our misfiring attack cost us
Defensively we were quite good and in attack we were great getting the ball into the Victree final 3rd.
Our efforts in both boxes were ****ing poor
Tommyjet
12-01-2019, 11:04 PM
Simply not good enough from coach to striker. Not gonna signal players out and whinge and bitch, as a whole didn't do enough.
You obviously didn't watch the nix last season.
Yes i did. Having Fox is good for that and he was a donkey there and is a donkey here. I am tipping there aren't too many other clubs who would have expressed interest in him let alone use a visa spot on him in the process.
mic22
12-01-2019, 11:10 PM
Hes a perfect microcosm of this team.
Theres something there, but hes so low on confidence you wonder what hes even doing out there.
This pretty much sums it up about the jets this year...
Tommyjet
12-01-2019, 11:19 PM
Yes i did. Having Fox is good for that and he was a donkey there and is a donkey here. I am tipping there aren't too many other clubs who would have expressed interest in him let alone use a visa spot on him in the process.
To signal him out on the last 2 games shows how clueless you are. I have fox too and know for a fact the nux were gutted to lose him.
By all means target him, blame him for every loss. Just means you're incredibly narrow minded and your views on the game will become increasingly misguided.
I prefer to judge the team and the players each game and then clear the slate for each match.
To signal him out on the last 2 games shows how clueless you are. I have fox too and know for a fact the nux were gutted to lose him.
By all means target him, blame him for every loss. Just means you're incredibly narrow minded and your views on the game will become increasingly misguided.
I prefer to judge the team and the players each game and then clear the slate for each match.
So now you making it personal having a crack at me all because you can't respect my right to have an alternative opinion to yours on a players ability . Grow the %^&* up.
Like i would be the first on here to single a player out as ordinary IMO which i can have FFS.
Do i call you out with a personal remark to justify my difference of opinion to yours.
So now you making it personal having a crack at me all because you can't respect my right to have an alternative opinion to yours on a players ability . Grow the %^&* up.
Like i would be the first on here to single a player out as ordinary IMO which i can have FFS.
But your point is irrelevant as despite your dislikke of Ridenton it isnt him costing us games. It is him actually doing things right which is giving us ample opportunity to win games
Sure as shit we are ****ing it up behind and in front of him on the pitch
But our midfield hasnt been our problem and isnt our problem
plague
12-01-2019, 11:52 PM
one thing that stood out tonight was the lack of composure.
so many times balls were played forward and our backs and mids tried to either 1st time a pass or just hoof it forward.
this was going on despite most of the time our blokes had all the time in the world to control the ball put a foot on it and do whatever.
to go with my 'lack of confidence' angle, Hoff has been technically poor last few games. his first, 2nd and 3rd touches have been poor. effort is always A+ and he gets in the right spots. but man oh man his short passing and ability to dribble out of situations was pretty horrid.
It was good to see Ugaboogaman run the ball a little more too. a lot of our 'half' chances came from him dribbling around his first man. and opening up the play.
we are better than our table position says, but we are absolute fodder for a good team because of our shortcomings. its just that there arent any 'good' teams in the comp this year (maybe Victory with full squad).
we should be confident of beating anyone. stating against those sky blue shits next week.
But your point is irrelevant as despite your dislikke of Ridenton it isnt him costing us games. It is him actually doing things right which is giving us ample opportunity to win games
Sure as shit we are ****ing it up behind and in front of him on the pitch
But our midfield hasnt been our problem and isnt our problem
I don't agree with your summation of Ridentons ability as a footballer but you did manage to make that point without the personal attack. Well played.
plague
13-01-2019, 12:13 AM
without diverting from the main point about how bad we are, the biggest issue of the whole A-League season is that its obvious Valeri and Brown are in the sheds pre match looking at each other front on saying "yeah mate, youre sweet".
Troisi is over the other side, mouth agape wondering how these 2 idiots cant see the forest for the (lack of) trees.
StannyCFCJET
13-01-2019, 10:05 AM
https://www.a-league.com.au/video/full-press-conference-ernie-merrick-12 Ernie does not sound happy. Reckon he may be losing patience with some of our players
Jeterpool
13-01-2019, 01:38 PM
https://www.a-league.com.au/video/full-press-conference-ernie-merrick-12 Ernie does not sound happy. Reckon he may be losing patience with some of our players
I think it's due, too. To keep doing the same thing and expecting results to be different doesn't work
StannyCFCJET
13-01-2019, 02:04 PM
I think it's due, too. To keep doing the same thing and expecting results to be different doesn't work
But the problem is Ernie traditionally never has a plan B, A problem I raised when he signed and he puts way to much faith in a core starting group rarely turning to other members of the squad
But the problem is Ernie traditionally never has a plan B, A problem I raised when he signed and he puts way to much faith in a core starting group rarely turning to other members of the squad
So which one of these shit ****s not.in the side at the moment is gonna turn things around??
Because other than Kanta and Vargas and Joey C I aint seeing any light at the end of the tunnel from the rest of the squad
StannyCFCJET
13-01-2019, 07:14 PM
So which one of these shit ****s not.in the side at the moment is gonna turn things around??
Because other than Kanta and Vargas and Joey C I aint seeing any light at the end of the tunnel from the rest of the squad
Time on the sidelines might kick some players into gear and increase the fight in the squad if they know their spot is on the line
StannyCFCJET
13-01-2019, 07:20 PM
Atm Dimi can do whatever ever he wants performance wise and is never getting dropped. Several others also have this luxury
Time on the sidelines might kick some players into gear and increase the fight in the squad if they know their spot is on the line
Bring Jackson in we will drop Boogaard then
StannyCFCJET
13-01-2019, 07:24 PM
Bring Jackson in we will drop Boogaard then
Fine by me at CB. Boogs has been off form but he is one of those untouchables no matter how they perform. Ronnie, Jair to a degree and Ridenton seem to also be on that list
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