2019/2020 Striking Options?

[Bajar]

So, I’ve been wondering about our striking options for next season. I think we need pace and also some realism about who we can get.

Zhang Yuning is on the move from West Brom and has played in the Chinese National side. Wondering if he would be a worthwhile pick-up? He is apparently keen to return to Asia, and this could be a good link-up given the Jets ownership.

[Tommyjet]

Depends how our budget is looking. Word has it Lee wanted to dash our budget for this current season but lawrie talked him out of it. The new main sponser will hopefully ease some of the burden

[MFKS]

Depends how our budget is looking. Word has it Lee wanted to dash our budget for this current season but lawrie talked him out of it. The new main sponser will hopefully ease some of the burden

An 8 game deal to the end of the season ??

Exactky how much you think we getting for it??

I bet you it is chicken feed and sold off as a late season deal at well below normal market value

[Jetmaster]

It was said to be "six figures" on NBN.

[belchardo]

It was said to be "six figures" on NBN.

$1000.01 is six figures. :rof:

why wouldn't we just give kaine sheppard a bigger go. thurgate is also worth more of a look.

is roy contracted next season?

[Tommyjet]

An 8 game deal to the end of the season ??

Exactky how much you think we getting for it??

I bet you it is chicken feed and sold off as a late season deal at well below normal market value

To be honest I haven't even read anything about the sponser deal so have no idea about length etc

[furns]

is roy contracted next season?No, he joined 1st July 2017 on a 2yr deal

[belchardo]

No, he joined 1st July 2017 on a 2yr deal

cheers. i do not believe he should be re-signed. his current form doesn't warrant the money he would be on, and the frequent suspensions aren't worth the risk.

i have no doubt that as soon as we are mathematically eliminated from the finals race he will start banging them in for fun and get another 3 year contract and a higher wage.

[Jetmaster]

He should not be resigned ONLY if we have designs on getting somebody better. He is still our top scorer this season despite missing a chunk of it and has a high goals per game ratio.

Plus he rubbed the Gypos nose in it.

Cool heads here.....not Facebook style judgements.

[Tommyjet]

I thought his workrate and general involvement was increased compared to previous weeks (normally just a spectator in general play). Obviously a goal was missing though

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’d be happy for Roy to stay if he took a bit of a pay cut. He’s probabaly on pretty decent coin and I’d argue he warranted it last season. I’m not sure how the a league goes about incentive based or bonuses within contracts and how that affects the cap. But that would be an okay option with bonuses for goals and games played. He scores goals in the a league. I’d rather have him with some history and experience behind him, than take a punt on some unknown. Unless we are getting a better alternative, I’d be happy to keep him. There’s a few others I’d cut before him.


On that though, if Victory have Toivonen in their cap, I’d like to see us have a crack at that type of signing. I imagine that was just some good scouting and recruiting. I’m sure he didn’t seek out the a league as a destination and he could’ve got good money/games elsewhere especially after scoring against Germany in a World Cup.

I feel like the Scandinavian leagues are on similar level to us and I doubt their players are being paid overs like they are here. All the South Americans have great YouTube videos but seem to either go missing or appear like superstars.

This season was inevitable.
Dimi had an amazing season last year and if he continued that form, he’d be gone by now anyway.
Nabbout was our best last year and largely responsible for our goals either scoring, or pressing.
Champness was great off the bench last season. If he had a navy or sky blue shirt on, he’d be playing for Celtic now.

[380]

Nah time to move on from Roy. In a salary capped league there is no place for a sentimental signing.

If Roy was to come out in the first 6 rounds of next season giving the thumbs up to good non converted service people would be complaining why the hell we gave him another deal. Roy has been about the League a few seasons now and like Dimi i am afraid we have probably seen the best of them both.

Dimi has had two real standout seasons , One the season with Brisbane and shifted to Korea and then last season here. Both those standout seasons he was playing wonderful give and go and one touch football none of this the ball is mine and i am taking two dozen touches back into traffic shit. This not entirely on Dimi i also hold Ernie partly responsible for this going on for so long week after week, Ernie has been quoting stats to blow wind up his proverbial all season when the rest of us could see these issues in his game from the get go.

Anyways back to Roy if you want to see the club take steps forward again next season i believe that needs a new #9 to happen. Roy has lost that scent to sniff out half an opportunity hence he struggling to be in the right position at the right time. That was one of his strengths in previous seasons, He had a knack to be bang on time in the right place.

And Brem you are correct re wages. I am sure Miller commented that part of the world was a good location to seek out players as wages in that part were very comparable to the A League.

[plague]

get more Asians. they are better than Scandos.

Dont think Shep is the answer either, thought he was poor yesterday.

Also, the Scando at Victory has acres of space because Barbarouses and Honda provide it.
Stick Toivenen on our team he may luck into the odd good cross but thats about it.

my dream of an all Asian front 4 would walk this league. As always Middleby prob doesnt even know they fly direct to that part of the world these days.

[MFKS]

get more Asians. they are better than Scandos.

Dont think Shep is the answer either, thought he was poor yesterday.

Also, the Scando at Victory has acres of space because Barbarouses and Honda provide it.
Stick Toivenen on our team he may luck into the odd good cross but thats about it.

my dream of an all Asian front 4 would walk this league. As always Middleby prob doesnt even know they fly direct to that part of the world these days.

The other night I was watching Thai football on UTube

There are blokes in that comp that would walk it in Oz

Remember LeakyG and Song??

Why the **** dont we have 4 of them on our books??

Got to be better than the shit we have at the moment

[Macca]

Nah time to move on from Roy. In a salary capped league there is no place for a sentimental signing.

If Roy was to come out in the first 6 rounds of next season giving the thumbs up to good non converted service people would be complaining why the hell we gave him another deal. Roy has been about the League a few seasons now and like Dimi i am afraid we have probably seen the best of them both.

Dimi has had two real standout seasons , One the season with Brisbane and shifted to Korea and then last season here. Both those standout seasons he was playing wonderful give and go and one touch football none of this the ball is mine and i am taking two dozen touches back into traffic shit. This not entirely on Dimi i also hold Ernie partly responsible for this going on for so long week after week, Ernie has been quoting stats to blow wind up his proverbial all season when the rest of us could see these issues in his game from the get go.

Anyways back to Roy if you want to see the club take steps forward again next season i believe that needs a new #9 to happen. Roy has lost that scent to sniff out half an opportunity hence he struggling to be in the right position at the right time. That was one of his strengths in previous seasons, He had a knack to be bang on time in the right place.

And Brem you are correct re wages. I am sure Miller commented that part of the world was a good location to seek out players as wages in that part were very comparable to the A League.

Disagree RE Dimi - he was the same last season. He has always taken a lot of touches and looked to be the main man on the ball. And in general its worked for him. The difference is when Vargas is in the side as well, then there's two of them that like the ball at their feet and the team dynamic is thrown a bit. Dimi hasn't been as good as last season, but its hard to take anything in isolation. Last night, none of the other attackers offered much really.

[MFKS]

Disagree RE Dimi - he was the same last season. He has always taken a lot of touches and looked to be the main man on the ball. And in general its worked for him. The difference is when Vargas is in the side as well, then there's two of them that like the ball at their feet and the team dynamic is thrown a bit. Dimi hasn't been as good as last season, but its hard to take anything in isolation. Last night, none of the other attackers offered much really.

One thing that also stands out is how little our attackers actually defend

With Dimi and Vargas on the park neither like to tackle
Jair more or less phones in his efforts anyway

Leaves us very exposed defensively and costs us countering opportunity as well

[The Dunster]

Just on stats alone Dimi seems to favour quantity over quality.

Lots of shots, bugger all on target, only three finding the back of the net.
Lots of crosses - but few finding a target.
Corners - Woeful. Confirmed as well when Cowburn took a corner the other week and found Ridentons head for the goal.

The Dimi we have now is the player he's always been - flashes of brilliance but a lot of poor quality hit and hope type shit.

[plague]

The other night I was watching Thai football on UTube

There are blokes in that comp that would walk it in Oz

Remember LeakyG and Song??

Why the **** dont we have 4 of them on our books??

Got to be better than the shit we have at the moment

im not even joking.
personally think that one the whole, the Asian players who have come to the A-League have far outperformed Scandos and even the English/Championship level players.

08/09 GF was on the other night, my 2nd biggest* takeaway from that game was just how technically good Song was at such a young age. Ive no idea why we didnt keep going back to that well.




*of course the biggest takeaway was how good Griff is.






Griff.

[The Dunster]

im not even joking.
personally think that one the whole, the Asian players who have come to the A-League have far outperformed Scandos and even the English/Championship level players.

08/09 GF was on the other night, my 2nd biggest* takeaway from that game was just how technically good Song was at such a young age. Ive no idea why we didnt keep going back to that well.




*of course the biggest takeaway was how good Griff is.






Griff.

We were lucky with Song - he needed access to a physical league as prep for Europe.

But we are never going to get a player of his quality again so cheap from Korea.

[plague]

Jair more or less phones in his efforts anyway

Leaves us very exposed defensively and costs us countering opportunity as well

was amazed last night at how little of Adelaides attack went down Jairs side. He was not even remotely interested in getting back to help, which wasnt a big problem until you realised that Shep and Roy were right next to him.

Adelaide coach kept going though Goodwin and i thought for the most part we covered him.

how he couldnt see the gaps on the other side ill never know.

But, at least Jair made space for himself in attack and at least looked to beat a man. Shep was bad, Dimi was covered and Roy was no where near the play.
would be more than happy to see Joey and Jair start next match.

[plague]

We were lucky with Song - he needed access to a physical league as prep for Europe.

But we are never going to get a player of his quality again so cheap from Korea.

disagree. we picked up a good young player for low money because we went looking in a technical league that doesnt pay huge amounts to its 'lesser known' players.

Leaky G was similar.

this bullshit about us them not being 'physical enough' to play over here is a cop out.
they are plenty strong enough, and we have more than enough well 'ard plodders we can pick up from the NPL is we think we need reinforcements.

give me the skill player any day of the week.

[pv4]

Leaky G was similar.

I still wish we had Lee Ki-Je for another season or two. I genuinely believe he was one of our best ever imports.

The only thing you have written wrong ever on this foz, plaguesey, is that it was the 07/08 final and not the 08/09 one.

[plague]

The only thing you have written wrong ever on this foz, plaguesey, is that it was the 07/08 final and not the 08/09 one.

sorry, i always write down how long i was high for after the game.

[The Dunster]

disagree. we picked up a good young player for low money because we went looking in a technical league that doesnt pay huge amounts to its 'lesser known' players.

Leaky G was similar.

this bullshit about us them not being 'physical enough' to play over here is a cop out.
they are plenty strong enough, and we have more than enough well 'ard plodders we can pick up from the NPL is we think we need reinforcements.

give me the skill player any day of the week.

Who said they weren't physical enough ? Certainly wasn't me.
Song was very physical both on and off the ball.
I think it was at Toukley / Budgewoi where he absolutely destroyed Hutcho and friends one morning in a pre season game.

[pv4]

sorry, i always write down how long i was high for after the game.

Those of us that went hard enough don't recall an 08/09 ever happening. It's just this black hole, really.

[StannyCFCJET]

disagree. we picked up a good young player for low money because we went looking in a technical league that doesnt pay huge amounts to its 'lesser known' players.

Leaky G was similar.

this bullshit about us them not being 'physical enough' to play over here is a cop out.
they are plenty strong enough, and we have more than enough well 'ard plodders we can pick up from the NPL is we think we need reinforcements.

give me the skill player any day of the week.

Song's agent approached us not the other way around pretty ure

[plague]

Song's agent approached us not the other way around pretty ure

so we got him because the agent said he was dope?

granted, im positive Middleby and GVE didnt go into the deepest darkest parts of indo-china to search the guy out.
but his signing, at the time, was pretty left field for us. and it worked.


Suit after suit in this club loooooooved going on a 'scouting trip' to South America and look what that continually got us.
this season especially (with the ACL 'campaign') was the perfect time for us to go get someone.


but we didnt.

[plague]

oh, and President Trump just announced that hes fixed the relationship between USA and China so Mr Lee is rich again so go get us some players damnit.



Maybe we should get President Trump to sign some players, bloke would do a fantastic job.

[StannyCFCJET]

so we got him because the agent said he was dope?

granted, im positive Middleby and GVE didnt go into the deepest darkest parts of indo-china to search the guy out.
but his signing, at the time, was pretty left field for us. and it worked.


Suit after suit in this club loooooooved going on a 'scouting trip' to South America and look what that continually got us.
this season especially (with the ACL 'campaign') was the perfect time for us to go get someone.


but we didnt.

Think his agent offered him to clubs down under so he could play in a physical league, Swear it was in the Championship Chronicles

[The Dunster]

Think his agent offered him to clubs down under so he could play in a physical league, Swear it was in the Championship Chronicles

Truth.

Not sure how we got Lee Ki-Je though ? Possibly we paid a shit load of coin ?

Bloke had played 57 games in the J-League before coming to the jets.

No injury history, and no run of weak clubs / loans in between.

He then left us to play for Ulsan and Suwon in the K1.

[plague]

Think his agent offered him to clubs down under so he could play in a physical league, Swear it was in the Championship Chronicles

Yeah I def heard the whole 'toughen him up' angle when he signed.

We are also the club that signed Jardel, which was, however you look at it, the laziest piece of work they ever did.

Leaky G prob wasnt on big cash, that's my point. 2nd div players in Japan/Korea would def be in our price range esp considering what we would be paying Boogaard, George, Roy etc.

Yet theres just some clubs out there that only care about Scandos, Sth Americans (WAS ONCE A TEAMMATE OF MESSIS COUSIN) or journeymen from the UK lower leagues.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jardel and Drovandi were signed off YouTube or last glory pretty much

[The Dunster]

Yeah I def heard the whole 'toughen him up' angle when he signed.

We are also the club that signed Jardel, which was, however you look at it, the laziest piece of work they ever did.

Leaky G prob wasnt on big cash, that's my point. 2nd div players in Japan/Korea would def be in our price range esp considering what we would be paying Boogaard, George, Roy etc.

Yet theres just some clubs out there that only care about Scandos, Sth Americans (WAS ONCE A TEAMMATE OF MESSIS COUSIN) or journeymen from the UK lower leagues.


Jardel was signed by Con - not the club - Remo knew sfa about it until he basically landed here.

leaky G was playing J-League - the top tier.

There are currently a few unsigned u23 CB's from big K1 clubs worth looking at and a CM or two as well.

This is the Jets though so it's unlikely they'd even bother.

[Frodo]

I reckon we will sign Krishna, which is great.

Other than that there is only Keogh and Riera available from within the league. Riera won't suit us at all. Keogh is basically the exact same player as Roy but with a better record in the HAL.


Can we please trade Dimi to Victurds for Kosta?? They get a younger former player/former socceroo and we get a serial winner to play in front of George.

[Macca]

Imo Ernie and/or Lawrie need to decide what they want to team to be. Vargas is a fantastic footballer, but he doesn't suit a high energy and counterattacking style of play. If we want to build a team around him, we need more technically capable footballers, and work on playing possession football.

If we want to go back to playing the high octane stuff of last season, then it pains me to say but he should probably be let go. Dimi hasn't had a great season but he is more suited to playing the 10 role in that system. His workrate and drive to get forward and support attacks from deep is fantastic and our greatest period of success came with him there.

I don't think there's necessarily a "wrong" answer. But just cobbling together individual players and whacking them onto the field doesn't work. Will be very interested to see how contracts and recruitment are managed over the next offseason.

[plague]

Jardel was signed by Con - not the club - Remo knew sfa about it until he basically landed here.

leaky G was playing J-League - the top tier.


Yes I'm aware of both of the these things.

When I was referring to getting 2nd div players I was saying that they would be better than what we've got and prob on less cash.

Yet here we are signing Jackson, Shep etc to play a style that doesn't necessarily suit them.

[The Dunster]

I reckon we will sign Krishna, which is great.

Other than that there is only Keogh and Riera available from within the league. Riera won't suit us at all. Keogh is basically the exact same player as Roy but with a better record in the HAL.


Can we please trade Dimi to Victurds for Kosta?? They get a younger former player/former socceroo and we get a serial winner to play in front of George.

Kosta was on big money at Wellington and could only manage 5 goals in 25 appearances. Roy currently is getting hammered by fans on a daily basis and he's scored 6 goals already this season from 12 games.

Kosta has only had success at Roar and Victory where he's been surrounded by quality - at the Jets he'd be completely useless.

[The Dunster]

Yes I'm aware of both of the these things.

When I was referring to getting 2nd div players I was saying that they would be better than what we've got and prob on less cash.

Yet here we are signing Jackson, Shep etc to play a style that doesn't necessarily suit them.

Limited Visa spots though so it's not really an option.

[plague]

Limited Visa spots though so it's not really an option.

i would accept this argument from the club if they maybe looked a little further afar for visa players than Ernies old squaddies.

there are way better players out there than Ridenton.
esp when we have adequate cover in that spot anyway.

the club certainly doesnt make this easy on themselves thats for sure.

[MFKS]

The other thing with this neck of the woods if we can invest in someone for a few years and not just as a 1 year wonder I think we would see some results

Take most of SEAsia for example most players are gonna jump at 55k AUD in this over inflated wages league to come and live and play in Oz

Only thing is we would have to be as a club a bit more long term at seeing their intergration culturally into Oz life

But I tell you what their are plkenty of goid players in Vietnam Thailand etc who would jump to come here

[The Dunster]

i would accept this argument from the club if they maybe looked a little further afar for visa players than Ernies old squaddies.

there are way better players out there than Ridenton.
esp when we have adequate cover in that spot anyway.

the club certainly doesnt make this easy on themselves thats for sure.

What I prefer about Ridenton over others in our squad is we don't need to offer his brother and sister contracts as a package deal for his services.

[Mark325]

Get rid of Roy & Vargas

That leaves you with Dimi at CAM & Jair on the wing who should get more then one season and see if it makes a difference

Sign Krishna which takes up the other winger spot and leaves us with 2 visa spots, one of which if we got then money should be used to sign a marquee striker

we have Kaine, Joey & Hoff as our main backup attackers. Behind those two are Thurgate and we should move on Kosta and sign someone with a bit more promise

[StannyCFCJET]

Get rid of Roy & Vargas

That leaves you with Dimi at CAM & Jair on the wing who should get more then one season and see if it makes a difference

We'll be signing Krishna hopefully and he'll be a starting winger as well so then we only have to focus on a starting striker. We'll have two internationals at that point, if we got money sign a marquee striker

we have Kaine, Joey & Hoff as our main backup attackers. Behind those two are Thurgate and we should move on Kosta and sign someone with a bit more promise

Keep jair? have you been drinking? You dont hand out contracts to players who dont perform

[Frodo]

Keep jair? have you been drinking? You dont hand out contracts to players who dont perform

Yes we do.

[MFKS]

Keep jair? have you been drinking? You dont hand out contracts to players who dont perform

Explain how Jackson got resigned
Explain how Vujica got resigned
Explain the 10 years we kept Kanta
Explain the 12 years we kept BK

We have also locked Boogaard in for the future as well

This is what we do



Classic Jets

[Mark325]

Keep jair? have you been drinking? You dont hand out contracts to players who dont perform

I'm down to keep jair on the basis that he's performed semi well these past handful of games and mentioned that earlier in the season he had a slight injury which was hampering his quality

for an international like him i'm down for him to get one more year and see how he goes, i'm not gonna go down swinging saying it's a must do but i don't think it's a bad idea

[Frodo]

I'm down to keep jair on the basis that he's performed semi well these past handful of games and mentioned that earlier in the season he had a slight injury which was hampering his quality

for an international like him i'm down for him to get one more year and see how he goes, i'm not gonna go down swinging saying it's a must do but i don't think it's a bad idea

Don't worry about young Stanny. He had a rough football day yesterday.

I agree with you. I'm happy to give imports 2 years so they can settle in and find their feet. Plus, he arrived unfit/injured (classic Jets) and has started to look better this month.

Also, I definitely don't trust our scouts to find anyone better. Considering the calibre on players we've resigned lately, Jair is so far down the list of problems we have next year it's not funny.

[Macca]

Don't worry about young Stanny. He had a rough football day yesterday.

I agree with you. I'm happy to give imports 2 years so they can settle in and find their feet. Plus, he arrived unfit/injured (classic Jets) and has started to look better this month.

Also, I definitely don't trust our scouts to find anyone better. Considering the calibre on players we've resigned lately, Jair is so far down the list of problems we have next year it's not funny.

The other thing is it looks like he gives a shit.

His unbridled joy when he's scored is almost enough to make me want to see him go round again.

[mic22]

Get rid of Roy & Vargas

That leaves you with Dimi at CAM & Jair on the wing who should get more then one season and see if it makes a difference

Sign Krishna which takes up the other winger spot and leaves us with 2 visa spots, one of which if we got then money should be used to sign a marquee striker

we have Kaine, Joey & Hoff as our main backup attackers. Behind those two are Thurgate and we should move on Kosta and sign someone with a bit more promise

Joey and Hoff are not strikers.
Kaine could be an option, but it would be risky to rely on him as our main striker.
I'd give Roy the chance of playing a full season, hopefully with some more consistency in the service he receives. Yes he's had a few shockers, but remember Bobo last year? It's a matter of giving him more chances. If he had a conversion rate of 80%, he'd be playing in the epl.

[The Dunster]

I'm a big fan of Krishna but his age concerns me. Some guys with speed to burn like him can do it well into their 30's. But others, simply lose the speed overnight without warning and are never the same player without it.

If he was technically brilliant like a Totti or Giggs... and so on it wouldn't be a concern. But speed really is the key with Krishna.

[MFKS]

I'm a big fan of Krishna but his age concerns me. Some guys with speed to burn like him can do it well into their 30's. But others, simply lose the speed overnight without warning and are never the same player without it.

If he was technically brilliant like a Totti or Giggs... and so on it wouldn't be a concern. But speed really is the key with Krishna.

You are worried about us signing a 31 year old yet we just gave a middle age man a 2 year deal in Topor and we have also resigned old man Moss??

[Mark325]

Joey and Hoff are not strikers.
Kaine could be an option, but it would be risky to rely on him as our main striker.
I'd give Roy the chance of playing a full season, hopefully with some more consistency in the service he receives. Yes he's had a few shockers, but remember Bobo last year? It's a matter of giving him more chances. If he had a conversion rate of 80%, he'd be playing in the epl.

When I said as attacking options I meant wingers and strikers. Hoff & Champness as backup wingers and Kaine as backup to whoever our striker is.

If we keep roy for another season I’m not gonna be mad but I won’t be happy. Not moving players on under the context that we probably can’t get better is silly. For me, roy looked phenomenal at the start of last year and hasn’t looked like that same player since that injury. Has he still scored some goals, of course he has but he’s not someone we should be relying on anymore and I think we’ve seen enough of him to know if keeping him on is worth it or not

[380]

Don't worry about young Stanny. He had a rough football day yesterday.

I agree with you. I'm happy to give imports 2 years so they can settle in and find their feet. Plus, he arrived unfit/injured (classic Jets) and has started to look better this month.

Also, I definitely don't trust our scouts to find anyone better. Considering the calibre on players we've resigned lately, Jair is so far down the list of problems we have next year it's not funny.

Agreed. Many have fared better in there second season.

Let Vargas and Roy go combine that money to go after a killer #9 and Dimi to 10. If we are to continue with Dimi it needs to be in the 10 role.

[The Dunster]

You are worried about us signing a 31 year old yet we just gave a middle age man a 2 year deal in Topor and we have also resigned old man Moss??

Topor is one of the fittest, fastest, and most physically sound athletes in any code of football in Australia.

Krishna is not in the same league - not many are.

[The Dunster]

Agreed. Many have fared better in there second season.

Let Vargas and Roy go combine that money to go after a killer #9 and Dimi to 10. If we are to continue with Dimi it needs to be in the 10 role.

If Vargas and Roy are let go it will be to save money - not to reinvest it.

[pv4]

If Vargas and Roy are let go it will be to save money - not to reinvest it.

It's not really related, but I still think related.. I found it interesting either way what Arsene Wenger recently said about Mesut Ozil. And I definitely at the very least relate it to this scenario that we aren't going to be instantly entitled to the same investment if we let these guys go.


Wenger, speaking after being honoured with the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Laureus World Sports Awards, said: “I feel that the length of the contract has nothing to do normally with the selection of the team. But sometimes there are special cases. Most of the time now we think when we sign a player for five years we have a good player for five years. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that they practise, they play their best. Because they might be in their comfort zone.

“He has a contract but the problem is that, if you want to buy a player like him, you have to spend £100m. And to maintain the value of the player, beyond the Özil case, it is more about the way football is structured.

“To buy players of top, top quality you need £100m. So the decision you have to make is whether you re-sign the player, who costs us nothing, or do we have the money to buy a new player?”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/19/arsene-wenger-mesut-ozil-comfort-zone-arsenal

[The Dunster]

It's not really related, but I still think related.. I found it interesting either way what Arsene Wenger recently said about Mesut Ozil. And I definitely at the very least relate it to this scenario that we aren't going to be instantly entitled to the same investment if we let these guys go.



https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/19/arsene-wenger-mesut-ozil-comfort-zone-arsenal

Good post. Makes perfect sense and definitely on topic.

[Macca]

Difference being I guess that generally in the A-League there aren't transfer fees, so there isn't that initial lump sum cost in obtaining a new player that there is overseas. Unless you include things such as scouting, player relocation, research, medicals, negotiations etc. There still are "costs" involved in a new player, but how these compare to the salary costs of players I'm not sure.

[Jetmaster]

Staff turnover costs the Australian economy over $4.2 billion a year but nobody ever thinks twice about it.

I would imagine the cost of a "player clearout" would be astronomical. Pay out players contracts, scout for new ones, deal with and pay agents etc (Griff and Lawrie at minimum have to travel). When you sign a player you have to look at relocation (the whole family if there is one), find them a place to live, lease a car, kit them out, pay for visas if needed, put the kids in school, maybe find the wife a job and probably lots more if you think about it.

It is not a simple case of get rid of X, Y and Z and replace with A, B and C at zero cost.

[StannyCFCJET]

I think we can safely say Ronnie and Jair will be gone. Reckon Roy will be resigned which means we need a top RW with Dimi playing 10 but I'd also buy another 10 if Dimi plays like this season again

[Bajar]

I think a clearout is unlikely. I feel that Roy and Jair are probably about due for a stint somewhere else, but keeping in mind costs, our options are limited. I still think Zhang Yuning would be a good fit, but I can also foresee an attempt at Tomi Juric given he has been told he can leave his current club.

[furns]

If we were going to resign Roy I think we'd have heard about it. So far, nothing. I think his disciplinary record has probably done him in. If he gets another ban, it will be even longer than the last one.
So Id say we are looking to find ourselves a hidden gem somewhere. Dont forget, no one had heard of Berisha, Castro, Broich etc and they came here and ripped the league apart.

[Frodo]

I think we can safely say Ronnie and Jair will be gone. Reckon Roy will be resigned which means we need a top RW with Dimi playing 10 but I'd also buy another 10 if Dimi plays like this season again

Pretty sure everyone is in agreement that the complete opposite of what you said will happen. Roy will be moved on, Jair will be given another season and Ronnie may be kept as well.

[plague]

but I can also foresee an attempt at Tomi Juric given he has been told he can leave his current club.

geez just how bad do they want this club to get?

[baldrick]

So, I’ve been wondering about our striking options for next season. I think we need pace and also some realism about who we can get.

I’m free. Just sayin.

[StannyCFCJET]

Pretty sure everyone is in agreement that the complete opposite of what you said will happen. Roy will be moved on, Jair will be given another season and Ronnie may be kept as well.

Well then were ****ed and back to normal IE forever no finals

[380]

Juric LOL, No Thanks. That would be scraping the bottom of the overrated barrel.

[MFKS]

Topor is one of the fittest, fastest, and most physically sound athletes in any code of football in Australia.

Krishna is not in the same league - not many are.

No doubt Topor is fit and worthy of a new deal

The bloke is though turning 34 in a couple of weeks time

Exactly why is Middleby giving out 2 year deals to blokes that age?

It about as stupid as us resigning Boogaard in pre season like we did


This club has a history of dumb decisions and some this season are right up there

[StannyCFCJET]

No doubt Topor is fit and worthy of a new deal

The bloke is though turning 34 in a couple of weeks time

Exactly why is Middleby giving out 2 year deals to blokes that age?

It about as stupid as us resigning Boogaard in pre season like we did


This club has a history of dumb decisions and some this season are right up there

Thought Topor was 32

[MFKS]

Thought Topor was 32

DOB according to the internet is 11th March 1985

So that makes him 34 In a few weeks by my counts

[Frodo]

DOB according to the internet is 11th March 1985

So that makes him 34 In a few weeks by my counts

Don't know if anyone gets the reference (google Jackson Martinez age debate) but...

He's 33 until he's 34. And until he's 34 he is still 33.