18/19 HAL Round 24 | Newcastle Jets v Western Sydney | Sat 6th Apr 2019 1735

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Round 24 Newcastle Jets v Western Sydney Wanderers

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 20 matches between the two teams.
Jets Wins - 6, Wanderers Wins - 8, Drawn - 6


In Newcastle – 9 matches.
Jets Wins - 1, Wanderers Wins - 5, Drawn - 3
In Sydney - 11 matches
Jets Wins - 5, Wanderers Wins - 3, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 13760
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10628

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 28, Wanderers - 28
In Newcastle -
Jets – 9, Wanderers - 14

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 7, Wanderers - 13

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 40 (38 yellow, 2 red), Wanderers 29 (29 yellow, 0 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (Vargas 33') - Wellington Phoenix 1 (Williams 58') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 18, Season 2018/19

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Round 18

Newcastle JetsWestern Sydney Wanderers
Glen MossOliver Sail
Daniel GeorgievskiLouis Fenton
Nigel BoogaardSteven Taylor
Nikolai Topor-StanleyAndrew Durante
John KoutroumbisMichal Kopczynski
Matthew RidentonLiberto Cacace
Steven UgarkovicAlex Rufer
Ronald VargasMandi
Dimitri PetratosSarpreet Singh
Jason HoffmanDavid Williams
Roy O'DonovanRoy Krishna



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (D Petratos 18', Hoffman 22', O'Donovan 45+2', Ridenton 49', O'Donovan 59' pen) – Wanderers 1 (Duke 69'), Round 17, Season 2018/19 at McDonald Jones Stadium, 1/2/2019.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Wanderers 3 (Bridge 6’, 33’, Visconte 80’), Round 27, Season 2012/13 at Hunter Stadium, 29/03/2013 & Jets 0 - Wanderers 3 (Corthwaite 40', Sotirio 42', Corthwaite 50'), Round 25, Season 2016/17 at Hunter Stadium, 1/4/2017.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Adam Taggart, Jason Hoffman, Dimitri Petratos (3)
Wanderers - Mark Bridge (6)



2018/19 SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss19190116650010
3Jason Hoffman16142812113251
4Nigel Boogaard21210118740060
5Ben Kantarovski15114210360020
6Steven Ugarkovic23212618080120
7Dimitri Petratos22211019354310
8Jair Eduardo201641312472100
9Roy O'Donovan15141412628210
10Ronald Vargas18162613***021
11Mitch Austin5050730100
13Ivan Vujica116535290010
14Kaine Sheppard1961366363310
16Nick Cowburn104614131020
17Daniel Georgievski21210618040170
18John Koutroumbis1010028641110
20Lewis Italiano54104050000
22Lachlan Jackson15123310240120
23Matthew Ridenton19136411931010
24Joe Champness50501251100
29Jake Adelson1010260010
32Angus Thurgate61511250000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley23230020700230



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 2 matches
Ernie Merrick - 2 wins, Markus Babbel - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 5 matches (3 wins, 2 drawn, 0 losses = 60% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 0 losses = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 4 matches (1 win, 0 drawn and 3 losses = 25% win ratio)
Richard Money - No Matches
Branko Culina - No Matches
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No Matches
Craig Deans - No Matches
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 50% win ratio)

Western Sydney Wanderers Coach Record – Markus Babbel 0% win ratio (0 wins, 0 drawn, 2 losses)

[plague]

as usual, a team hits form for 3 mins in a season full of woe and its right when we are due to take them on.
only hope is that Plague Jnrs late kickoff on saturday means ill miss the game.

wheres our end of season trip at this year boys? surely its time to get details finalised?

[Jeterpool]

This match will be Dimi's 50th A-League appearance for the club,

Record so far in 49 appearance is 14 goals, 12 assists with a goal or assist provided every 167 minutes he is on the field.

[Bon]

This match will be Dimi's 50th A-League appearance for the club,

Record so far in 49 appearance is 14 goals, 12 assists with a goal or assist provided every 167 minutes he is on the field.

14 goals for every 500 cut-back-and-shoots.. Not bad.. :gent:

[Jeterpool]

Ernie hinting at looking to the future with his WSW lineup in today's Herald article.

Vujica, Thurgate and Champness likely to start this weekend.

Worst kept secret of Gorgeous George likely to head to WSW.

Roy believed to be tabled a 1 year deal.

Simmons and Langlois likely to see some time over the next few weeks.

[plague]

Ernie hinting at looking to the future with his WSW lineup in today's Herald article.

Vujica, Thurgate and Champness likely to start this weekend.

Worst kept secret of Gorgeous George likely to head to WSW.

Roy believed to be tabled a 1 year deal.

Simmons and Langlois likely to see some time over the next few weeks.


10-0



just not sure which way.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ernie hinting at looking to the future with his WSW lineup in today's Herald article.

Vujica, Thurgate and Champness likely to start this weekend.

Worst kept secret of Gorgeous George likely to head to WSW.

Roy believed to be tabled a 1 year deal.

Simmons and Langlois likely to see some time over the next few weeks.

If Ernie starts playing the yoof itll give fans something to look forward to for the rest of the season and the next

[plague]

If Ernie starts playing the yoof itll give fans something to look forward to for the rest of the season and the next

Ernie winning some games might be the best way to get the plastics like the Member to come back next year.

[MFKS]

Ernie winning some games might be the best way to get the plastics like the Member to come back next year.

Hey Plague

WSHousos are paying like $4 at the moment for the win

[Jeterpool]

So if Vujica is likely to start, is DG getting dropped? Or Johnny?

Champness comes in for Jair I assume. Will Jair get on the bench?

How does Thurgate fit into the starting lineup? Does Vargas return to start?

How do you feel about Roy being offered a one-year extension (as rumoured)? too little, too much or just right?

Jack Simmons on the bench - who drops out? Sheppard? Ridenton? Cowburn?

[plague]

Hey Plague

WSHousos are paying like $4 at the moment for the win

WSW/Draw option $1.91.
easiest money out there. if youve got 1 house, turn it into 2 this weekend kids. thank me later.

[Jetmaster]

Offering Roy one year is a fair compromise. Full preseason and into it. That suspension killed his season....honest, I don't think we'll find better this off season.
He is the sort who would go to the new club and score 20.

[StannyCFCJET]

Offering Roy one year is a fair compromise. Full preseason and into it. That suspension killed his season....honest, I don't think we'll find better this off season.
He is the sort who would go to the new club and score 20.

I highly doubt it at his age and temperament. But if he resigns he cant be the main guy

[The Dunster]

I highly doubt it at his age and temperament.

Guess that rules Luis Suarez out as well.

[StannyCFCJET]

Guess that rules Luis Suarez out as well.

Does roy have even a fifth of the talent of suarez?

[MFKS]

Offering Roy one year is a fair compromise. Full preseason and into it. That suspension killed his season....honest, I don't think we'll find better this off season.
He is the sort who would go to the new club and score 20.

The sad part is of your statement that you don't think we can find better

The bloke offers little more than tap ins and running around

Other than that he offers no aerial threat no speed in behind no hold up play and no actual skill

I think as a striker for a team wanting to be 7th then Roy is your man

If you want more then there is no way in the world you aren't backing your scouts to find better

The sad part is we will sign him because we too lazy to look elsewhere

[380]

I highly doubt it at his age and temperament. But if he resigns he cant be the main guy

This x 1000. I think the league has seen the best of Roy. He is not a third of the player he was last season and not all of that can be attributed to his suspension.

Time to move on from Roy. If we can't find better than Roy then those in charge of doing the finding should move on also.

[Tommyjet]

I still have faith lord Griff will find us a couple of gems this offseason

[Bremsstrahlung]

Few more years before his daughter is old enough to join the Jets.

[Jeterpool]

This x 1000. I think the league has seen the best of Roy. He is not a third of the player he was last season and not all of that can be attributed to his suspension.

Time to move on from Roy. If we can't find better than Roy then those in charge of doing the finding should move on also.

I wonder if Roy will have Australian citizenship by then.....

[Tommyjet]

I wonder if Roy will have Australian citizenship by then.....
Good point but I agree with others in hoping a new signing takes his spot up front. Someone younger and more of a all-round striker. Spend ronnys wage (if ledman still supplying a marquee) up front

[Jeterpool]

I'm waiting to see how Roy looks with some speed around him. If Champness starts I reckon we will see a different Roy.

[The Dunster]

Does roy have even a fifth of the talent of suarez?

The point is you said you wouldn't sign Roy because of his age and temperament Stanny. Why not just say you wouldn't sign him because you don't think he's talented enough ?

[Bon]

I'm waiting to see how Roy looks with some speed around him. If Champness starts I reckon we will see a different Roy.

I agree..
Everyone seems to be blaming his lack of form on missing the first 8 weeks, which I am sure wasn't ideal, BUT I think its just not having the sort of speed around him that he had in Joey and particularly Nabs..

[380]

I wonder if Roy will have Australian citizenship by then.....

Shouldn't even be part of the equation. Either he still has what we need or he doesn't and somehow hoping for Aust citizenship so he can be some second string choice for striker kinda reaffirms what some are saying here about whether he is travelling good enough to remain here.

If Roy is not going well enough to be first choice then it is thanks for coming time for him. My concern is his close relationship to our Gypo CEO could cloud the judgement of those making the decisions. Just my two bobs worth.

[Jeterpool]

Shouldn't even be part of the equation. Either he still has what we need or he doesn't.

I respectfully disagree. The depth of quality attacking players in Australia has greatly diminished. Players who score 1 in 2 and aren't counted as a Visa player are a commodity in this league.

[MFKS]

I respectfully disagree. The depth of quality attacking players in Australia has greatly diminished. Players who score 1 in 2 and aren't counted as a Visa player are a commodity in this league.

That is though just a cop out

There is no reason why we can't find a good foreign striker going forward

As for Roy his stats are surprising
Watch him.live and he isn't effective at all

Most games he is anonymous other than his goals
Problem is his goals aren't important goals

To me we have got to draw a line in the sand here and say we need better

[plague]

I respectfully disagree. The depth of quality attacking players in Australia has greatly diminished. Players who score 1 in 2 and aren't counted as a Visa player are a commodity in this league.

for all the lack of form and bulshit discipline problems, we are more than happy to continually let Roy off with a myriad of excuses AND continue to pay him good money.

yet, man oh man we were all quick to chuck someone like Kale Bradbury on the rubbish pile. If Bradbury even had 10% of the opportunities Roy has had would he have been more productive? especially as value for money. Hard to argue against considering Roys poor contribution to this club.

Its almost as if management across this sport have a preconceived idea on Australian talent vs "imports".

[Jeterpool]

That is though just a cop out

There is no reason why we can't find a good foreign striker going forward

As for Roy his stats are surprising
Watch him.live and he isn't effective at all

Most games he is anonymous other than his goals
Problem is his goals aren't important goals

To me we have got to draw a line in the sand here and say we need better

Think it a cop out if you like, but that's the rules we work with in Australia and have to be considered in any decision.

With respect to the important goals point, his telling contributions this season have been:

* Scored equalising goal in Rd 10 v Adelaide before Goodwin penalty resulted in 2-1 loss. (+1 lost)
* Scored go-ahead goal in Rd 12 v Brisbane before 87th minute Bautheac equaliser (+2 lost)
* Scored opening goal Rd 11 v City, which we went on to lose 2-1 (+3 points)
* Assist for Sheppard in the 1-0 win over CCM rd 15 - (Actual 3 points gained)
* Missed penalty Rd 22 that could have earned a point (-1 point)

Had the team defended better we could be 5 points better off thanks to his contributions on the scoreboard.

I'm currently on the fence about re-signing him. I want to see how he performs in the last 4 weeks. I don't disagree he has been disappointing and he certainly isn't as involved as I would like but I think that's down equally to himself as well as the team set up and approach..

[Jeterpool]

for all the lack of form and bulshit discipline problems, we are more than happy to continually let Roy off with a myriad of excuses AND continue to pay him good money.

yet, man oh man we were all quick to chuck someone like Kale Bradbury on the rubbish pile. If Bradbury even had 10% of the opportunities Roy has had would he have been more productive? especially as value for money. Hard to argue against considering Roys poor contribution to this club.

Its almost as if management across this sport have a preconceived idea on Australian talent vs "imports".

The case of Kale Bradbury is an interesting one that I think will live on for years to come.

And yes, Roy's "availability" for the club has been a very poor component of his time at Newcastle.

[plague]

The case of Kale Bradbury is an interesting one that I think will live on for years to come.

And yes, Roy's "availability" for the club has been a very poor component of his time at Newcastle.

Can one of you internet nerdz put a poll up to see who everyone thinks has been our 2nd best ever striker?

Who's on the list, Roy, Nobby, Labi, Tags, Bridges (bhahahaha ****ing Bridges).

Let's gooooooooo

[Jeterpool]

Can one of you internet nerdz put a poll up to see who everyone thinks has been our 2nd best ever striker?

Who's on the list, Roy, Nobby, Labi, Tags, Bridges (bhahahaha ****ing Bridges).

Let's gooooooooo

I'll put a vote on the Jetstream Facebook.

Voting options: - Nabbout, Taggart, O'Donovan, Haliti, Brockie, Heskey, Coveny, Trifunovic, Petrovski

Sound good?

[plague]

I'll put a vote on the Jetstream Facebook.

Voting options: - Nabbout, Taggart, O'Donovan, Haliti, Brockie, Heskey, Coveny, Trifunovic, Petrovski

Sound good?

Facebook? The hell is that?
Let me know the results.

Also, give the address of the first moron who writes "why isn't Joel Griffiths on there".

[Jeterpool]

Deal

[StannyCFCJET]

I'll put a vote on the Jetstream Facebook.

Voting options: - Nabbout, Taggart, O'Donovan, Haliti, Brockie, Heskey, Coveny, Trifunovic, Petrovski

Sound good?

Where's Rooney and Jesic?

[The Dunster]

Can one of you internet nerdz put a poll up to see who everyone thinks has been our 2nd best ever striker?

Who's on the list, Roy, Nobby, Labi, Tags, Bridges (bhahahaha ****ing Bridges).

Let's gooooooooo

Stephen Laybutt. Only made one appearance in the role and never scored - but fmd he looked the business.

/thread

[Tommyjet]

No room for Scott Tunbridge or Zheng shuo

[MFKS]

Think it a cop out if you like, but that's the rules we work with in Australia and have to be considered in any decision.

With respect to the important goals point, his telling contributions this season have been:

* Scored equalising goal in Rd 10 v Adelaide before Goodwin penalty resulted in 2-1 loss. (+1 lost)
* Scored go-ahead goal in Rd 12 v Brisbane before 87th minute Bautheac equaliser (+2 lost)
* Scored opening goal Rd 11 v City, which we went on to lose 2-1 (+3 points)
* Assist for Sheppard in the 1-0 win over CCM rd 15 - (Actual 3 points gained)
* Missed penalty Rd 22 that could have earned a point (-1 point)

Had the team defended better we could be 5 points better off thanks to his contributions on the scoreboard.

I'm currently on the fence about re-signing him. I want to see how he performs in the last 4 weeks. I don't disagree he has been disappointing and he certainly isn't as involved as I would like but I think that's down equally to himself as well as the team set up and approach..

He is also paid to score goals so you can't say he would have earned more points if we defended better without the same argument being we hold him accountable for every miss he makes

So from memory he smashed one into the post v Nix at home costing us 2 points
He butchered 1 v Roar at home when we were 2-1 up which would have sealed us the win costing us 2 points

So there another 4 points he has cost us
Could go on all day dissecting every chance he has missed but let's just say Dimi has cost us every dropped point this season if he converted his shots to goals we be 23 from 23 at the moment and be ordering our GF tickets by now

Reality is the bloke is a mid level plodder

If we want to fight for 7th next season then we give him a new deal. If we want more we say thanks for your efforts and sign someone else

We sit here acknowledging the club's failings off the park with recruitment this season have led to our non finals position and instead of making active steps to address our limitations we are trying to repeat them again

Same old Newy really

[Jeterpool]

He is also paid to score goals so you can't say he would have earned more points if we defended better without the same argument being we hold him accountable for every miss he makes

So from memory he smashed one into the post v Nix at home costing us 2 points
He butchered 1 v Roar at home when we were 2-1 up which would have sealed us the win costing us 2 points

So there another 4 points he has cost us
Could go on all day dissecting every chance he has missed but let's just say Dimi has cost us every dropped point this season if he converted his shots to goals we be 23 from 23 at the moment and be ordering our GF tickets by now

Reality is the bloke is a mid level plodder

If we want to fight for 7th next season then we give him a new deal. If we want more we say thanks for your efforts and sign someone else

We sit here acknowledging the club's failings off the park with recruitment this season have led to our non finals position and instead of making active steps to address our limitations we are trying to repeat them again

Same old Newy really

Currently disagree but that's because I haven't made up my mind

[StannyCFCJET]

Soo much for Ernie playing some youth. Pretty much the same players who havent performed to make the finals

[belchardo]

very confident of a loss today.

[plague]

on the way home this arvo i calmed myself knowing we absolutely boss that Lorente dude every time we play him.


except today it seems.

Ernie out.

[belchardo]

Field looking terrible. Again.

[belchardo]

God's sake joey, play it first time!

[belchardo]

Joey finally gets it right and roy ****s it up! Someone needs to show roy what a bloody golden plate looks like.

[plague]

Roy earning that 5 year extension.

[belchardo]

He gets an extra week each time he claps a good cross he didn't put away.

[LiamD]

Does anyone have a feed for this?

Edit: sorted

Edit Edit: Just in time

[StannyCFCJET]

Does anyone have a feed for this?

Edit: sorted

Dont bother would be my advice.

[MFKS]

on the way home this arvo i calmed myself knowing we absolutely boss that Lorente dude every time we play him.


except today it seems.

Ernie out.

They got him and Brendan Hamill and some State League player in the back line

That 3 out of 4 who are below Boogaard level

No excuses that we haven't scored

[Hunter403]

We lead the league in thumbs up and conceding in last 5 minutes of the first half.

Champness the only bright light out there. The rest are trash.

[The Dunster]

Absolutely horrible Jets display once again.
Ernie could have used this game to give the young ones a run but instead sticks with cunce that have failed to deliver all season.

[StannyCFCJET]

Absolutely horrible Jets display once again.
Ernie could have used this game to give the young ones a run but instead sticks with cunce that have failed to deliver all season.

I'm kinda reluctant to keep Ernie for next season based on how this season has gone

[The Dunster]

Roy the enigma. Nails that one misses sitters

[belchardo]

Wow. He scored!

[belchardo]

Vedran strikes again!

[plague]

The hell was that? What a stinky goalkeeper that bloke is. Wow.

[Hunter403]

And Boogaard costs us again....

[MFKS]

And Boogaard costs us again....

How many ****ing times

[belchardo]

That was some shot.

[StannyCFCJET]

And Boogaard costs us again....

How?

[plague]

What about the t-rex in goals for us.

[StannyCFCJET]

That was some shot.

Agreed

[Hunter403]

Let's no play the 5m pass to an unmarked Kanta. Let's play the square ball for 30m with a WSW player in the way!!!

Also, what the F was Moss doing? Right above his head!

[The Dunster]

Absolutely honking. We lack discipline to make the easy pass.

[belchardo]

Zetter giving us a make-good decision there by not giving them a pretty legit penalty.

[LiamD]

Zetter giving us a make-good decision there by not giving them a pretty legit penalty.

I didnt think there was too much in it tbh. That said, finally a decent game from Dimi and Roy

[380]

Absolutely horrible Jets display once again.
Ernie could have used this game to give the young ones a run but instead sticks with cunce that have failed to deliver all season.

Not just that but management very pleased with themselves to have 17 in the bag for next season.

[turbojetfireV8]

WTF was that spastic dance thing Wankerers were doing for their goal??? That's just f'n weird...

[Jetmaster]

Field looking terrible. Again.

Look at the patchwork Syd/Mel are playing on. Looks like it has claimed one season ender.

[MFKS]

I didnt think there was too much in it tbh. That said, finally a decent game from Dimi and Roy

Actually I was a bit side tracked today taking the nephew to his first game but from memory Dimi barely had his usual 20 shots over the bar and for some reason didn't have the 400 touches every time he got the ball

WTF was up with that


Also Kanta is always honkibgly shit first start back from a spell as he was last week @Nix but looks much better at his 2nd race of a campaign

Can we get the guy some Barrier trials next time he coming back from injury??

As for our defending FFS why is this Topor Moss Boogaard triumvate of 3 old guys going to be pensioned off
We can't keep carrying all 3

Those two goals today were garbage from them

Free Header in the 6 yard box at a set piece
Wank pass wank closing down wank keeping for the 2nd

[outsider]

Zetter giving us a make-good decision there by not giving them a pretty legit penalty.

Referee was actually Adam Fielding

[Jetmaster]

Referee was actually Adam Fielding

Zetman was probably in the VAR.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Some finish by Thurgate. Composed, power and placement.

[belchardo]

Zetman was probably in the VAR.

yep, to my eye ivan went straight through the back of him.

maybe the VAR broke down again.

[turbojetfireV8]

news said Vargas was injured which may have been true, but unless it was in the first minute he hurt himself, I thought taking him off for offering very little except a target for them to hack at was a good move on Ernie's part, was happy to not see him out there the way he was playing... :popcorn:

[Jetmaster]

Ronny's head left Newy a few months ago tbh.

[380]

Vargas would have to be one of the most silkest players to ever play for this club however just as the member said months ago too much of Vargas's good work is done at the wrong end of the park and not where you want your #10 to be.

Now ask yourself is this a problem of Vargas's doing or Ernie's for allowing it to happen week after week. For mine Ernie has been piss weak this season in calling it how it is with his senior players in particular. When they have been playing average at best Ernie comes out trying to tell us they are going great.

This is Ernie's job to reign this stuff in.

[plague]

Can we all just sit back and enjoy these last few games of Joey and Thurgate before the gypo sells them to City?

[Tommyjet]

I think Vargas should of been moved to the broich/Castro/ninkovic role whereby he defended wide but had a free licence in attack.
Instead, Merrick has chosen to play him centrally and play those too narrow around him.

[Alton]

I think Vargas should of been moved to the broich/Castro/ninkovic role whereby he defended wide but had a free licence in attack.
Instead, Merrick has chosen to play him centrally and play those too narrow around him.

Ernie needs to move him out wider, real wide like back where he came from. After all the club did for him his attitude is a disgrace.

[Jeterpool]

This match was the 7th time in the club's A-League history they'd come from behind at half time to win.

Four of these occasions have been under Ernie Merrick.

[The Dunster]

Ernie needs to move him out wider, real wide like back where he came from. After all the club did for him his attitude is a disgrace.

Everyone should put themselves before the needs of their employer. Anyone that's doesn't is a fool.

[plague]

After all the club did for him his attitude is a disgrace.

Huh?

You talking about the bloke who got his leg cleaned snapped in the line of work?

That guy?

Ok then.

[380]

Huh?

You talking about the bloke who got his leg cleaned snapped in the line of work?

That guy?

Ok then.

This.