2019/20 Squad

[plague]

Herald reporting we’re signing Bobby Burns. Northern Ireland u21 LB captain on loan.

dont read to much into it. apparently the bloke is only over here to do uni. he loves study. Club is saying its his 3rd degree.

[Jeterpool]

dont read to much into it. apparently the bloke is only over here to do uni. he loves study. Club is saying its his 3rd degree.

Did he always want to study and have it as a back up to a football career?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Did he always want to study and have it as a back up to a football career?

Mustn’t be that good if he needs an education behind him.






*removes tongue from cheek.

[plague]

Wait? What are you guys doing?

[The Dunster]

dont read to much into it. apparently the bloke is only over here to do uni. he loves study. Club is saying its his 3rd degree.

But we don't have any Universities here worth pissing on. Makes absolutely no sense. He could go to TCD in his own country ffs - it's one of the best Universities in the world.[Ignore those bullshit rankings on the web]

[londonboy]

Herald reporting we’re signing Bobby Burns. Northern Ireland u21 LB captain on loan. Plays for hearts in scotland

He was on the bench for Northern Ireland last week for their friendly with the mighty Luxembourg. He's quite well thought of by the NI manager by all accounts. A report I read says he's coming here for first team football to push on his career, so he's clearly got some hunger. Michael O'Neil is a very good coach as well, so if he sees something in Burns he must be decent.

[The Dunster]

Blokes got two good knees as well - Why are we signing him ?

[Bon]

Blokes got two good knees as well - Why are we signing him ?

It's a great point..
I realise its early days, but is anyone else starting to get suspicious about these sort of signings? Where are the fat, injured hasbeens?

[londonboy]

Blokes got two good knees as well - Why are we signing him ?

Rumour is he's pretty handy at circus tricks, so Ernie just wants him here for the juggling one-twos. I wonder whether he gets a tiny car with doors than fall off on command as a signing bonus?

[plague]

Where are the fat, injured hasbeens?

in the Local Forum apparently.

[plague]

dont read to much into it. apparently the bloke is only over here to do uni. he loves study. Club is saying its his 3rd degree.

Bobby Burns

guys c'mon now, i know its the pre-season but geez.

[Jeterpool]

Wait? What are you guys doing?

Referencing JOWIC/Joey Champness

[Bremsstrahlung]

Wait? What are you guys doing?

Sorry plague. Genuinely thought that might have been true.
Failed to catch on that he’s 21 and how can you do 3 degree by 21.

Feel better about being a wet blanket now.
Hope his desire to succeed isn’t extinguished.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie130919.mp4

if our only alternate options are Sheppard and Hoff up front we are phucked...

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN - more Arroyo news

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsarroyo150919.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjohnny160919.mp4

[leftrightout]

NBN tonight

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie130919.mp4

if our only alternate options are Sheppard and Hoff up front we are phucked...

Berisha struggling to get a gig, would be worth it for us!

[StannyCFCJET]

Berisha struggling to get a gig, would be worth it for us!

We have Arroyo and Sheppard. Don't need Berisha

[380]

We don't need Bess but sure as shite our striking stocks are not sufficient. Anybody who thinks they are is off his or hers medication or is in the employment of the Jets and must tow the " we have depth " company line.

Wait til all the soft tissue injuries pop up from running a half busted ass pauper operation and then we will see if Arroyo and Shep is sufficient.

[StannyCFCJET]

We don't need Bess but sure as shite our striking stocks are not sufficient. Anybody who thinks they are is off his or hers medication or is in the employment of the Jets and must tow the " we have depth " company line.

Wait til all the soft tissue injuries pop up from running a half busted ass pauper operation and then we will see if Arroyo and Shep is sufficient.

How many aleague clubs have more then two strikers?

[plague]

depth?

y'all out ehre acting like Kanta and the Hoff arent in our squad.



gonna rain ****ing 1 yard bangers all season. get yer beer showers ready.

[380]

We have two first choice strikers competing against each other at training each week to choose from do we Stanny ?.

If you can't go over the other clubs in the league and see that there options are way superior to ours i can't help you.

I like your optimism but that shouldn't get in the way of calling a spade a spade, our depth for proven goal scorers is rooted.

[Jeterpool]

Is that what we have ?

Well it doesn't rain that much lately so with water restrictions beer showers is about the best we can expect.

[StannyCFCJET]

We have two first choice strikers competing against each other at training each week to choose from do we Stanny ?.

If you can't go over the other clubs in the league and see that there options are way superior to ours i can't help you.

I like your optimism but that shouldn't get in the way of calling a spade a spade, our depth for proven goal scorers is rooted.

Arroyo is first choice and Sheps has shown enough to have my faith whenever he plays. Another and then we have some young guys. Seems fine to me

[380]

See therein lay the problem, one first choice.

[StannyCFCJET]

See therein lay the problem, one first choice.

So Shep just never plays cause he isn't first choice?

[plague]

See therein lay the problem, one first choice.

Can't there, by definition, only be one 'first choice'?

Dang it's times like these I wish Captain Obvious was still alive.

[The Dunster]

What about Kosta Petratos starting ? Or have the club finally released him?

[StannyCFCJET]

What about Kosta Petratos starting ? Or have the club finally released him?

He's needed to keep Dimi happy

[380]

So Shep just never plays cause he isn't first choice?

No not all but most clubs would have a better " in case of emergency break glass " option than Shep. You seem ok with the depth we have i am not.

Nobody can seriously say if Arroyo goes down for any length of time they would be content with Shep leading the line for the duration. Didn't anybody learn the lessons of the first third of last season. .

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight Burns arrives

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsburns170919.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night Red Aids debacle
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsvadelaide180919.mp4

NBN tonight, Burns joins squad, no audio
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdubbo200919.mp4

[mic22]

NBN tonight Burns arrives

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsburns170919.mp4

The pitch looks absolute rubbish FFS... and we wonder why our players keep getting injured.
Returfed 3 years ago...

[Grimario]

Wessi gone till at least new year, apparently.

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-hoolahan-miss-extended-period

[StannyCFCJET]

Wessi gone till at least new year, apparently.

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-hoolahan-miss-extended-period

Season over unless Dimi has the best season he's ever had

[Jetmaster]

Injury replacement surely? We have a thin enough squad now...we are only two injuries away from the spoon.

[pv4]

Injury replacement surely? We have a thin enough squad now...we are only two injuries away from the spoon.

If you believe the figures Wessi was going to go to Melb City for last season, you can assume he is on a very small wage with us this year. And that would check out given how little funds we had left when Nabbout bypassed us, yet we have still signed Wessi & Burns. I predict even if we wanted an injury replacement for Wessi, the coin available to fund that would not be big enough to get anything remotely decent.

[Frodo]

season over unless dimi has the best season he's ever had

rofl.

[Tommyjet]

If you believe the figures Wessi was going to go to Melb City for last season, you can assume he is on a very small wage with us this year. And that would check out given how little funds we had left when Nabbout bypassed us, yet we have still signed Wessi & Burns. I predict even if we wanted an injury replacement for Wessi, the coin available to fund that would not be big enough to get anything remotely decent.

Yep wessi is here on the minimum basically, just wanted to play in Australia and have his costs covered.

[Tommyjet]

According to Merrick we are looking for a wessi replacement. I cannot wait for Lawrie to come out tomorrow in the media and say something completely different followed by Lord Griff talking to another media source with a different story again.

[plague]

how good a club are we that we get not one, but TWO episodes of the Jason Cullina experience.


Suck on that other A-League clubs!!!!!

[Dogshot99]

Newcastle Jets reload in search for attacking weapon

Craig Kerry

Local Sport



Jets coach Ernie Merrick believes he has the squad and a proven strategy to fall back on after the loss of star playmaker Wes Hoolahan but says the club will look for an injury replacement.

Hoolahan is not expected back until 2020 after having surgery on Monday on his right ankle following major ligament and cartilage damage from a tackle in the FFA Cup loss to Adelaide.

"It is a shame, it's a pretty bad injury," Merrick said. "He won't be available until the new year, probably January some time. Still, he'll be a strong influence around the team and certainly helping the more inexperienced, younger players, but it is a big blow and he's coping with it pretty well.

"I did speak to him after the operation and he's pretty keen to come back and help us with a run into the finals, and he was pretty upbeat.

"But obviously he must be hurting a little bit, just from being out here, playing well, the season hasn't started and he gets a bad injury, so it's pretty tough on him."

The Irishman is the Jets' biggest signing for 2019-20 and gives them a second No.10 alongside Dimi Petratos. While Merrick said the loss of Hoolahan will change the Jets' strategy, he was confident they could adjust.

"We've got back-up players so we won't change too much," he said. "He was virtually a second No.10, so we'll go back to a traditional wide player now. It might be Jason [Hoffman], it might be Gus [Thurgate], it might be Kaine [Sheppard], but it doesn't change things too much for us, we've got cover.

"We've really played with that style for two years. When you are setting up your structures and formation, you've got to play to the strengths that you have ... we'll go back to a more traditional three, which got us into a grand final [in 2018]."

As for an injury replacement for Hoolahan, Merrick said the Jets were "always looking to fill gaps and find the right people at the right time".

"I would never say that we wouldn't be looking for a long-term replacement for this season, but the option is always there," he said.

"It's something that Lawrie [McKinna], Joel [Griffiths] and I do constantly. Is there someone that can come in short-term?

"There's no names there yet, but 12 months of the year you are really recruiting for this type of situation.

"We've got space in the squad obviously and we've got the finance, I think, so we'll certainly be looking at, is there's someone out there who can fit the bill?

"It's ideal to pick all of your squad early on, which we did with 95 per cent of the squad. Now we've got Bobby Burns and someone like Bobby pops just up, and you go, 'whoa, what a good signing he is', and because it's this time of the year, they're less money, you are not paying for 12 months.

"Sometimes someone is disillusioned with where he is at, or he comes back from overseas, or he's not getting a game with an A-League club, so sometimes they just pop up."

Jets chief Lawrie McKinna said: "We'll see what we can come up with. This time of the year, most players are locked in, but we'll try."


No names....I am filled with confidence.

[Jeterpool]

Lewis Holtby *cough*


Scratch that - signed for Blackburn 5 days ago

[Jeterpool]

Stephen Ireland? Yoann Gourcuff? :lulzturtle:

[Tommyjet]

Stephen Ireland? Yoann Gourcuff? :lulzturtle:

Jamie Ward, Matt Jarvis, Simon dawkins

[plague]

Stephen Ireland? :lulzturtle:

If Ireland promises to bring his extensive collection of cars with awful pink trim out here to drive the streets of Newy I'll personally pick him up from the airport.

[belchardo]

Matt Jarvis, Simon dawkins

Deadset read that as matt simon.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

Sheppard is out until Jan/Feb now.

Can't wait to see who we sign as injury replacements for Wes and Sheps... oh wait.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstuesday011019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Sheppard is out until Jan/Feb now.

Can't wait to see who we sign as injury replacements for Wes and Sheps... oh wait.

If they can re-build him so he comes back a better player that would be great thanks Jets...

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, final hit-out
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetspreview041019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjackson071019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/aleaguelaunch081019.mp4

Red Aids and us with no major sponsor on shirt fronts? Was wondering if this is because we are waiting to finalise something, or whether we really do not have a major sponsor??

[Jetmaster]

NBN tonight:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/aleaguelaunch081019.mp4

Red Aids and us with no major sponsor on shirt fronts? Was wondering if this is because we are waiting to finalise something, or whether we really do not have a major sponsor??

Lawrie explains on the pod.

[pv4]

Lawrie explains on the pod.

Worth noting Lawrie said a lot of the teams are struggling to find front of shirt sponsors.

Yet only ADL and us are left..

[turbojetfireV8]

Lawrie explains on the pod.

Thanks JM, started listening the other day but didn't get to that part, only listened to the rest today. I'd really prefer the idea that Lawrie is just being cagey about a new sponsor, but I'm seriously worried we really haven't got anyone on track to wanna be on our shirt, gotta say I think it's a major fail if that's the case

[plague]

I'd really prefer the idea that Lawrie is just being cagey

the last few years has shown everyone that 'cagey' is a truly generous word to describe his behaviour.

we dont have a sponsor because he cant get us a sponsor. its a simple as that.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

the last few years has shown everyone that 'cagey' is a truly generous word to describe his behaviour.

we dont have a sponsor because he cant get us a sponsor. its a simple as that.

The price is quite high I assume.

They don't want to lower it because once it's lowered, no one will want to pay the same again...

[plague]

The price is quite high I assume.

They don't want to lower it because once it's lowered, no one will want to pay the same again...

Oh I don't disagree that you can't just give it away.

But.

We don't have a sponsor.
His job is to get is a sponsor.
He hasn't done the job.

[pv4]

Oh I don't disagree that you can't just give it away.

But.

We don't have a sponsor.
His job is to get is a sponsor.
He hasn't done the job.

Maybe the sponsor wanted to pay online rather than in person with a cheque, and it all fell over there.

[plague]

Maybe the sponsor wanted to pay online rather than in person with a cheque, and it all fell over there.

the club is run on Bartercard now.
Which is just a perfect thing.
im serious.

[Jetmaster]

Just put "Save Stockton Beach" on the shirt.....

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmoss101019.mp4

[leftrightout]

George Blackwood from Adelaide. Anyone heard anything about that?

[turbojetfireV8]

as an injury replacement? who would we swap for him (going on Lawrie's comments on trying other teams for a loan replacement)?

[Hunter403]

as an injury replacement? who would we swap for him (going on Lawrie's comments on trying other teams for a loan replacement)?

Sign Hoole and send him! That'll fck 'em!

[leftrightout]

1653

[380]

Blackwood, Another player destined to follow in the footsteps of players like Fitzgerald who will have half a dozen chances at proving themselves capable but will not.

Only in this overrated league would players of this sub standard be afforded so many chances. The mind boggles how players like this make a living from this sport. Probs why the league in this country is on the downhill slide, Same rubbish each season just a different shirt they play in.

[turbojetfireV8]

Blackwood, Another player destined to follow in the footsteps of players like Fitzgerald who will have half a dozen chances at proving themselves capable but will not.

could make a reasonable injury replacement for Shep though, straight swap talent-wise (tongue in cheek)

[380]

could make a reasonable injury replacement for Shep though, straight swap talent-wise (tongue in cheek)

Club would be better off giving a bloke like Thomas James from the Wollongong Wolves his opportunity as opposed to revolving door not good enough players.

[Aegon]

could make a reasonable injury replacement for Shep though, straight swap talent-wise (tongue in cheek)

I hope not, he was woeful this weekend.

[white city]

I hope not, he was woeful this weekend.

he seemed to be in the midfield on the weekend a little out of position, I think it would be a pretty fair straight swap. However i doubt this to be possible.

an Aussie, with limited playing time in Europe would be the only real feasible option however again difficult

[380]

I hope not, he was woeful this weekend.

Like every weekend, He is consistent.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsburns141019.mp4

[Aegon]

he seemed to be in the midfield on the weekend a little out of position, I think it would be a pretty fair straight swap. However i doubt this to be possible.

an Aussie, with limited playing time in Europe would be the only real feasible option however again difficult

For once I agreed with the commentators when they were discussing Blackwood. He never looked like he was putting enough effort in.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstuesday151019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Socceroos camp, no audio except Dimi interview:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/socceroosdimi151019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night, Ernie on upcoming season

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsinterview161019.mp4

[MFKS]

WTF are Magic gonna do with the grass anyway??

It ain't like their pitch is in bad nick that they need the grass

[380]

Wonder how that search for a replacement to cover Hoolahan is coming along let alone Sheps as well ?.

Probs just go into this season like the first 8 weeks of last season taking the piss pretending we are taking the competition seriously.

[Tommyjet]

Wonder how that search for a replacement to cover Hoolahan is coming along let alone Sheps as well ?.

Probs just go into this season like the first 8 weeks of last season taking the piss pretending we are taking the competition seriously.

I've stopped even considering the possibility. Wooden spoon on the way

[380]

Probs just waiting til the mood is right to announce Hoole

[white city]

Probs just waiting til the mood is right to announce Hoole

Let's just bring Nathan Burns back!

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on Kanta's return, Ad build up
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmonday211019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetshospital231019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN North Coast (not shown on Newcastle news)
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/PTHURGATEJETSSOT20191023.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Kanta
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie251019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmonday281019.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

No video but NBN said Hoff is back this week to boost our strike force...
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/10/31/hoffman-cleared-for-take-off-against-sydney-fc/

[380]

Did anybody else catch the comments Hill made during the commentary about Hoolahan and at one point he said we may not see him at all this season ?.

You don't need to be a genius to see Ernie is just taking the piss this season with some of his interview performances. He knows this season is just one big joke with the budget he has had to work with and it just goes to show this club has sweet f^&8 all ambition.

Kills me to say this but our mob makes Charelsworth commitment look good.

[turbojetfireV8]

he also reckoned Jowic was on his way back to us, which like the Hoolahan comment, unless he has a credible source, I took as pure speculation... don't know how he'd know Wes' timeline to get back without knowing where he is currently with his rehab etc so I didn't read too much into it till we actually hear something about where he's at

[Jetmaster]

Fux taking the piss putting Mosque on the panel....SFCTV.

[leftrightout]

Interesting that Connor Metcalfe is playing well for Melbourne City. I was not aware until the weekend that he is a local.

In a region like Newcastle, it is a massive failure that a player like him can slip through and never play for this club.

He is not a world beater but he seems to have a lot of potential and appears far ahead of the prospects we do have here!

[MFKS]

Interesting that Connor Metcalfe is playing well for Melbourne City. I was not aware until the weekend that he is a local.

In a region like Newcastle, it is a massive failure that a player like him can slip through and never play for this club.

He is not a world beater but he seems to have a lot of potential and appears far ahead of the prospects we do have here!

I think he left the area at about 14 with his family moving to Melbourne

So it ain't like Bert McKinna and co said no to him

[Alton]

When are we going to get injury replacements for Wessi and Shep ?

[Jetmaster]

Did Griff sip Ernie's Koolaid accidentally at training?

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6476298/a-league-jets-legend-predicts-bright-future-for-gus/?cs=7580

Alot of Jets Youth come through as "gunna bees". Gus has had a couple of seasons experience now.

The other kids mentioned here are doing it now.

[StannyCFCJET]

This season is make or brake for Gus at the Jets. If he can displace a unfit Kanta or Ridenton then he never will make it here

[380]

When are we going to get injury replacements for Wessi and Shep ?

Yep bloody good question for club management to answer. They were quick to bring up they were looking for a replacement but knowing management this was probably just another bullshit line to keep the membership renewals ticking over with no real intention of looking into one.

Pretty piss poor effort from the club on this particular issue.

[plague]

When are we going to get injury replacements for Wessi and Shep ?

we did, Ridenton and Thurgate.

Enjoy.

[Frodo]

Have people forgotten that we have no money and are still for sale? We need to worry about not folding up as a club, not about injury replacements.

[pv4]

Yep bloody good question for club management to answer. They were quick to bring up they were looking for a replacement but knowing management this was probably just another bullshit line to keep the membership renewals ticking over with no real intention of looking into one.

Pretty piss poor effort from the club on this particular issue.

Looking for, and finding a suitable option, can be two very different things. Good players aren't currently free agents for the fun of it. Ernie said to phernz in the preseason jerkstream interview that Griff & Lawrie approached all other AL clubs about potential loan signings and nothing was offered to them.

We also have to remember that injury replacements need to be a similar position to the injured person, and be on the same or less wage. Sheppard & Wessi both consume very low cap space for us, so we are scraping for low paid players of quality better than the likes of Kwabs or Mitch Austin as easy examples.

It is also worth noting that insurances may or may not kick in for the wages of Sheppard & Wessi whilst injured, but I'm near confident the club still needs to pay at least their super during that time. So whilst an IRP doesn't count towards the cap, it counts towards money leaving Mr Lee's hands - something he has openly said he wants to pull back on. Injury replacements are not free, however much dreams are.

If suitable options presented themselves to the club, I have no doubts that Lawrie & Griff will do everything they can to get them to the club. Whether it be lack of choice, or lack of money, or a bit of all of the above, I don't necessarily believe they are not putting in a genuine effort with what resources they have to improve our squad.

[Bon]

Have people forgotten that we have no money and are still for sale? We need to worry about not folding up as a club, not about injury replacements.

I had this convo with a cousin after our loss the other day..
I was distraught, pissed off, frustrated, wondering why the team hates us, etc etc... All the usual post-game feelings.
He said to me "Well, what were you expecting?"
And he was spot on.. What was I expecting? To win? To play well? To achieve something? What an idiot..

[380]

Looking for, and finding a suitable option, can be two very different things. Good players aren't currently free agents for the fun of it. Ernie said to phernz in the preseason jerkstream interview that Griff & Lawrie approached all other AL clubs about potential loan signings and nothing was offered to them.

We also have to remember that injury replacements need to be a similar position to the injured person, and be on the same or less wage. Sheppard & Wessi both consume very low cap space for us, so we are scraping for low paid players of quality better than the likes of Kwabs or Mitch Austin as easy examples.

It is also worth noting that insurances may or may not kick in for the wages of Sheppard & Wessi whilst injured, but I'm near confident the club still needs to pay at least their super during that time. So whilst an IRP doesn't count towards the cap, it counts towards money leaving Mr Lee's hands - something he has openly said he wants to pull back on. Injury replacements are not free, however much dreams are.

If suitable options presented themselves to the club, I have no doubts that Lawrie & Griff will do everything they can to get them to the club. Whether it be lack of choice, or lack of money, or a bit of all of the above, I don't necessarily believe they are not putting in a genuine effort with what resources they have to improve our squad.

That is all well and good but it was THE CLUB who said they would search for a replacement and as such have come up with naught. If it were a money thing as we all know it is why make the statement in the first place ?. It was nothing more than a con to ensure the club appeared pro active to those who had not renewed membership. To believe anything else would be also believe it was Berts choice not to replace Zane and not budget related. Another example of the club pissing in our pockets.



Whichever way you look at it it is a piss poor effort to lose one of your key play makers and second striker and not have them replaced, The results are the evidence of that. We are literally a one man band in the creative dept and opposition coaches only need to mark Dimi out of the game.

[Jeterpool]

How much money do we think Wes and Shep are on? Not a significant amount from what I've been told. Even then we would be using the insurance money but that would only cover a portion of the wage.

[StannyCFCJET]

I had this convo with a cousin after our loss the other day..
I was distraught, pissed off, frustrated, wondering why the team hates us, etc etc... All the usual post-game feelings.
He said to me "Well, what were you expecting?"
And he was spot on.. What was I expecting? To win? To play well? To achieve something? What an idiot..

Then there is no point us continuing to support the club if we don't have hopes or expectations of it getting better. Then worst thing is that we've had that little taste of being competent recently and we don't want to return to being shit for another 10 years

[pv4]

How much money do we think Wes and Shep are on? Not a significant amount from what I've been told. Even then we would be using the insurance money but that would only cover a portion of the wage.

I would estimate less than 200k combined for Wessi and Sheppard.

We would need minimum that value to get one player worth considering.

[Jetmaster]

I would estimate less than 200k combined for Wessi and Sheppard.

We would need minimum that value to get one player worth considering.

Use that to get Zlatan here for a press conference to deliver truth bombs.

"Zlatan come and look, but Zlatan not play for Mickey Mouse club with no money. Zlatan more value than whole of A-League"

[Jeterpool]

Use that to get Zlatan here for a press conference to deliver truth bombs.

"Zlatan come and look, but Zlatan not play for Mickey Mouse club with no money. Zlatan more value than whole of A-League"

"Zlatan refuses to go to University for any reason because Zlatan already knows everything"

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetslanglois071119.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfitzgerald081119.mp4

[StannyCFCJET]

So Bobby isnt good enough to deplace a makeshift LB but good enough to play for his country. Explain that one Ernie ffs

[Macca]

So Bobby isnt good enough to deplace a makeshift LB but good enough to play for his country. Explain that one Ernie ffs

Burns has played U21s for Northern Ireland (5 caps)

Koutroumbis has 2 caps for Australian U23s.

Not a lot between them.

Also, according to Wiki and no further research (so could be BS), he had his breakthrough playing attacking midfield, and is described as primarily a central midfielder who can also play left back and as an attacker.
Mostly likely has been forced to play left back due to being a young up and comer who is left footed.

[plague]

So Bobby isnt good enough to deplace a makeshift LB but good enough to play for his country. Explain that one Ernie ffs

Because Johnny K aint Irish innit?

[pv4]

So Bobby isnt good enough to deplace a makeshift LB but good enough to play for his country. Explain that one Ernie ffs

In the jerkstream preseason interview between Phernz & Lawrie, Lawrie said there was a preseason game that hit from memory high 20s in temp and bobby "expired" due to the heat. Maybe the dude isn't up to sunny arvo games with temperature? You'd have to take that issue up with his recruiters if that is the case, which Lawrie basically said was himself in this instance.

[StannyCFCJET]

In the jerkstream preseason interview between Phernz & Lawrie, Lawrie said there was a preseason game that hit from memory high 20s in temp and bobby "expired" due to the heat. Maybe the dude isn't up to sunny arvo games with temperature? You'd have to take that issue up with his recruiters if that is the case, which Lawrie basically said was himself in this instance.

If thats the case the we have failed recruitment once again

[Alton]

Where is the injury replacement for Wessi and Shep? A simple question especially now that Arroyo is out

[Grimario]

Not being signed because Lee is trying to reduce spend.

Why is that even a question?

[Frodo]

Not being signed because Lee is trying to reduce spend.

Why is that even a question?

I've been saying this for weeks now but people can't seem to get their heads around it.

[Roundball Enthusiast]

If thats the case the we have failed recruitment once again

When have we actually succeeded in recruitment in the last 10 years?

[StannyCFCJET]

When have we actually succeeded in recruitment in the last 10 years?

The season we made the GF the second time and Id say season 1 and two of the aleague and thats it

[Roundball Enthusiast]

The season we made the GF the second time and Id say season 1 and two of the aleague and thats it

Like I said, the last 10 years.

I would say we didn't necessarily recruit well the year we made the GF. We just overachieved with mediocre players.

[StannyCFCJET]

Like I said, the last 10 years.

I would say we didn't necessarily recruit well the year we made the GF. We just overachieved with mediocre players.

Yep sadly that's the case. And got lucky with Holland

[380]

Where is the injury replacement for Wessi and Shep? A simple question especially now that Arroyo is out

Would have to ask that piss in ya pocket management we have that question. After all they did say they were searching for one whilst still trying to sell memberships.

[MFKS]

Like I said, the last 10 years.

I would say we didn't necessarily recruit well the year we made the GF. We just overachieved with mediocre players.

We bring in
Georgevski
Topor
Petratos
ODonovan
Vargas
Jowic
Moss was on the bench

During the season we added
Pato
Riley McGree

I would say our recruitment that season was ****ing great regardless of our level of over achievement

We were backed at the business end of the season with McGree and Pato

The dumbest bit of recruitment we done that year was selling Nabbout in February

[The Dunster]

Like I said, the last 10 years.

I would say we didn't necessarily recruit well the year we made the GF. We just overachieved with mediocre players.

North and Durante were probably the best performing defenders in the comp that year and Covic did a stellar job as well.
We also had a solid midfield - Song, Holland, Denni, Stu, Ankles... that could move the ball quickly to a striker [Griffo] with both natural speed and the ability to put the ball in the back of the net both in play and from set pieces.
Because of this, teams that played high got punished when they lost the ball and teams that sat back simply struggled to score goals against us.

We may have lacked the flair we showed in the previous season or that of of 2018 - but we were never a team of mediocre players.

12 of that squad were or would be capped senior team internationals and the majority of the rest played at either u20 or u23 level for their country.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfriday151119.mp4

PS: There have been a couple stories on NBN this week but this was the first one I've found on the website

[Alton]

I think we deserve an official update on Wessi and Shep

[plague]

I think we deserve an official update on Wessi and Shep

6-8 weeks.

[MFKS]

Watching the Thailand v Vietnam game from last night

There was a bloke playing for Vietnam by the name Nguyễn Văn Toàn

Plays right wing for the Vietnamese NT and only 23

Currently running around in the Vietnamese league

Sign him up and thank me later

Would be the best player in the HAL

[mic22]

Jair was available.... too late though :lol:

[riverboy]

Watching the Thailand v Vietnam game from last night

There was a bloke playing for Vietnam by the name Nguyễn Văn Toàn

Plays right wing for the Vietnamese NT and only 23

Currently running around in the Vietnamese league

Sign him up and thank me later

Would be the best player in the HAL

Unless they released him on a free or loaned him he wouldn't be able to sign for jets

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmossy201119.mp4

[My2BobsWorth]

Watching the Thailand v Vietnam game from last night

There was a bloke playing for Vietnam by the name Nguyễn Văn Toàn

Plays right wing for the Vietnamese NT and only 23

Currently running around in the Vietnamese league

Sign him up and thank me later

Would be the best player in the HAL

Vietnamese cabbage?

[sorefootballer]

I sit on the toilet intending to have a bowel motion, i also like catching up on the foz.....but the page opens and there's no bold letters, Shhiiit!! Water hits my sack, its cool and makes me laugh, a tickle? Naahh. I wish the foz made me laugh. Surely the jets understand that there needs to be some news, Lawrie coming out and saying we wont sign anyone even if more injuries occur, we have no money. We are poor again. Hurrah! I have finished the motion and the mrs asked "you said you were finished ages ago...." Ahhhh the foz, hail Griff!!

[Couscous]

Thank you for your correspondence. I, too, am on the loo.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN last night, Ridenton likely to walk straight back into squad despite Kanta being better option:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsridenton261119.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Not sure if I missed this one last weekend:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfriday221119.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetskanta281119.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, starts with W-League preview/Brewer 100 games, then A-League:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetserniecraig291119.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsbeatwanderers011219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsjohnny021219.mp4

Gallery
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/12/02/photo-gallery-a-league-newcastle-jets-v-western-sydney-wanderers/

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN, no audio, but report said Arroyo has done a hammy and could be out for a month, Shep is a chance to return (they considered that a positive so I assume they didn't watch him in pre-season), and McGree is supposed to out - we really will need a miracle now not to get torn a new one by the Barrel Boys...

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsblokes051219.mp4

[evolution]

Hoff has re-signed until the end of the 21/22 season.

[380]

Has there been an update on wesi lately that i have missed or does his progress remain top secret away from the supporters ?.

Be nice for a update Laurie !!!!!!!!!.

[turbojetfireV8]

Hoff has re-signed until the end of the 21/22 season.

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfriday061219.mp4

[MFKS]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfriday061219.mp4

Great so Arroyo is out with a hammy

This club is ****ing useless with imports

[380]

With no news from the club on Wesi and a lot put on Dimi shoulders in the creative dept and without being all over the new rules re transfers now and Jan fast approaching is it worth sounding out Caceres. Getting bugger all game time at Sydney and could take some of the load off Dimi.

See i don't hate all Gypo's Jetkel just those like Fitzuseless who after 3 dozen clubs in the league have no ability at all, Which in truth is 99.9% of them.

[Frodo]

With no news from the club on Wesi and a lot put on Dimi shoulders in the creative dept and without being all over the new rules re transfers now and Jan fast approaching is it worth sounding out Caceres. Getting bugger all game time at Sydney and could take some of the load off Dimi.

See i don't hate all Gypo's Jetkel just those like Fitzuseless who after 3 dozen clubs in the league have no ability at all, Which in truth is 99.9% of them.

A) why would he take a huge paycut to come here and fight for 7th? We can't afford his current wages and he probably doesn't deserve them anyway.

B) we have enough Gypo trash here. Just sign Hutcho and put us out of our misery.

C) if we really wanted to improve our on field performance, we need to be investing in the right areas.... Jets Shaped Hats!!!!

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN review of the game, possibility Arroyo may be out for two months
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsloseadelaide091219.mp4

[380]

NBN review of the game, possibility Arroyo may be out for two months
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsloseadelaide091219.mp4

Where did you hear about the possibility of Arroyo being done for a couple of months ?.

[turbojetfireV8]

Where did you hear about the possibility of Arroyo being done for a couple of months ?.

https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/12/09/jets-goal-scoring-woes-continue-in-adelaide/

The Newcastle Jets’ goal-scoring woes continued in Adelaide last night, with the visitors beaten 2-1 by the Reds, despite producing almost three times as many shots.
To make matters worse, striker Arroyo’s hamstring injury could keep him sidelined for up to eight weeks.

[turbojetfireV8]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6534495/firing-blanks-jets-look-at-loan-deal-in-bid-to-spark-attack/?cs=6160


A-League: Jets look at loan deal in bid to spark attack
James Gardiner December 9 2019 - 8:30PM

OUT: Panamanian striker Abdiel Arroyo has a torn hamstring and will be sidelined for up to eight weeks. Picture: Jonathan Carroll

THE Newcastle Jets will explore signing a striker on loan from a rival A-League club during the transfer window in a bid to end the club's goal-scoring woes.
A hamstring injury to Abdiel Arroyo, which will sideline the Panamanian for up to two months, has further depleted the Jets' already thin attacking stocks.


Former Ireland international Wes Hoolahan (ankle) is at least a month away from a return. Kaine Sheppard played 10 minutes in the 2-1 loss to Adelaide on Sunday in his first game back from a three-month lay-off and was clearly underdone.
The Jets created enough gilt-edge chances against Adelaide to win three games, but lacked a cutting edge.

It has been the story of their campaign, which has yielded eight goals in seven games and incredibly only four from open play.
"We have done more than enough to wins games but we just don't finish things off," a frustrated Merrick said after the Jets fired 31 shots to Adelaide's 13 at Coopers Stadium on Sunday night.

"To be perfectly honest we just need a goal-scorer, a finisher during open play."
McKinna said the Jets have funds, which had been set aside for a possible return by Joey Champness, and would look at all options in January.
"It is about getting somebody who can come in and be up to the level," McKinna said.
"Maybe, we will look at a loan player - a young player from another club. We will look at that and present who is available to Ernie. There will be a few but they won't be household names. They will be fringe players but they have to be better than we have available in the youth team."
The A-League opened the door last season for clubs to loan players from their rivals.
Danny De Silva spent the season at Sydney FC before returning to the Mariners this campaign.
"You never know, there might be someone in the January window who pops up," Merrrick said.
"We do a lot of work on the front third, on our passing and creating goal-scoring opportunities. The boys are all doing that well. It's just the final touch. We are doing a lot of things right. It's seven games for us into 26 rounds and then finals. We are on track to be a very good team but we need to start finishing in open play and scoring goals."
Champness, who gave up a two-year contract extension to pursue a rap career in the US, has been back in Australia but at this point is still focused on music.
Teenager Angus Thurgate has scored two goals in three games as a makeshift striker and along with Nick Fitzgerald, Dimi Petratos and Hoffman had a raft of chances against the Reds.
Thurgate had a shot blocked on the line, Fitzgerald hit the woodwork as did Steven Ugarkovic.
"We have players in the right position, we get shots off, sometimes the opposition keeper wins man of the match ... we are doing a lot of things right."
Adelaide coach Gertjan Verbeek, though happy with the result, said the Reds had "stolen" three points.
Former Socceroo James Troisi produced a flash of brilliance to score the decisive goal with seven minutes.
"James Troisi popped up at the right time," Merrick said.
"That is the difference. That has been the difference in five games for us. We have won two, drawn two and lost three.
"We hit the bar twice... it was one of those games but we seem to keep doing it."

[turbojetfireV8]

Actually a few of the above points may have arisen from Ernie's presser:

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/video/merrick-todays-stats-were-misleading-press-conference-hyundai-a-league

Ernie states we don't have funds to bring anyone in, so I assume Lawrie's comments we may have relate to that.

[plague]

To make matters worse, striker Arroyo’s hamstring injury could keep him sidelined for up to eight weeks.

Bless this team.

[plague]

So there is absolutely no one, not one single player in the youth set up that can come in and change things up front?

there are no strikers in the youth team at all? none? not one? not one that can give us one half of football to at least see what we've got?

i mean, we are desperate, we have no cash, and the only option are other shit teams players who are too shit to get a start for another shit team.

[StannyCFCJET]

So there is absolutely no one, not one single player in the youth set up that can come in and change things up front?

there are no strikers in the youth team at all? none? not one? not one that can give us one half of football to at least see what we've got?

i mean, we are desperate, we have no cash, and the only option are other shit teams players who are too shit to get a start for another shit team.

Maki Petratos if Ernie is brave enough

[380]

https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2019/12/09/jets-goal-scoring-woes-continue-in-adelaide/

Thank you.

[matty]

Wonder how many royboy would of banged in by now if Lord gypo knew what he was doing 🤔

[MFKS]

Maki Petratos if Ernie is brave enough

Still not a striker though

[380]

Can just see it now my second worst nightmare. Wasn't Blackwood being shopped around just recently by Adelaide ?.

[MFKS]

Bless this team.

No bless us all.

God blessed us with the presence of Griff

Now we gotta pay the debt for all eternity

[380]

We could do a lot worse than to give Thomas James from the Wolves an opportunity at this level as opposed to somebody who has had ample opportunity to cement there position at this level but failed. We already got one of those.

His second half goal was nice.

https://www.nationalpremierleagues.com.au/news/npl-review-james-double-high-flying-wolves

[StannyCFCJET]

Still not a striker though

Umm yes he is. Think your confused with Kosta

[MFKS]

Umm yes he is. Think your confused with Kosta

He plays like Dimi

You could play him in the front 4 but he ain't the 9

[StannyCFCJET]

He plays like Dimi

You could play him in the front 4 but he ain't the 9

Maki? I thought he played striker for the yoof and the club has always talked up him as a striker

[pv4]

We could do a lot worse than to give Thomas James from the Wolves an opportunity at this level as opposed to somebody who has had ample opportunity to cement there position at this level but failed. We already got one of those.

His second half goal was nice.

https://www.nationalpremierleagues.com.au/news/npl-review-james-double-high-flying-wolves

Could be worth a go, worth noting he is a visa spot though.

[The Dunster]

We could do a lot worse than to give Thomas James from the Wolves an opportunity at this level as opposed to somebody who has had ample opportunity to cement there position at this level but failed. We already got one of those.

His second half goal was nice.

https://www.nationalpremierleagues.com.au/news/npl-review-james-double-high-flying-wolves

Where is the money coming from ? From what Ernie has said we have absolutely nothing to spend for the rest of the season - and by nothing I mean we couldn't outbid NBN League teams let alone local NPL teams for a players services.

Alternatively how about 100 of us here throw in $10k each and we gift someone to the club for a season ?

But nobody will because when it's there money they soon realise it's a poor investment.

[turbojetfireV8]

BTW, Members Day is scheduled for this Friday:

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/members-day-all-details-you-need

[leftrightout]

Ernie saying in the herald that their only option for new signing will be a loan player from another A-league club come January.
Is there really anyone out there that is worth looking at from another club not getting time. You would think it has to be a younger guy.
Nothing springs to my mind to be honest so i assume we will just keep as we are and not score goals.

[pv4]

Ernie saying in the herald that their only option for new signing will be a loan player from another A-league club come January.
Is there really anyone out there that is worth looking at from another club not getting time. You would think it has to be a younger guy.
Nothing springs to my mind to be honest so i assume we will just keep as we are and not score goals.

The best player not getting game time in the league I can think of is Luke Ivanovic from Sydney FC.

[plague]

The best player not getting game time in the league I can think of is Luke Ivanovic from Sydney FC.

which would be peak Jets to go begging for another teams youth player instead of using one of our own.

[The Dunster]

Ernie saying in the herald that their only option for new signing will be a loan player from another A-league club come January.
Is there really anyone out there that is worth looking at from another club not getting time. You would think it has to be a younger guy.
Nothing springs to my mind to be honest so i assume we will just keep as we are and not score goals.

I think the team we currently have is performing better than would be expected given our budget.
I don't think anyone else could do a better job than Ernie.
I don't think anyone here could do a better job than Ernie and his team are currently doing.

I don't need to see my team win every week - I just want to be entertained and in that department I think the team is doing just that.
If we converted our chances at the rate many here expected we'd be top of the league on one of the lowest budgets.
Fan expectations here are simply ridiculous.

[pv4]

I don't need to see my team win every week - I just want to be entertained and in that department I think the team is doing just that.
If we converted our chances at the rate many here expected we'd be top of the league on one of the lowest budgets.
Fan expectations here are simply ridiculous.

To be fair, Ernie admitted in the Jerkstream podcast preseason interview with phernz that him and the squad had a collective goal of top 4 and didn't see it unreasonable, even given the lower funds available. I believe Ernie even said this is the best squad he has had since coming to the club, too. So they had the excuses and cop outs available but set their own high standard themselves, it isn't just the fans.

[The Dunster]

To be fair, Ernie admitted in the Jerkstream podcast preseason interview with phernz that him and the squad had a collective goal of top 4 and didn't see it unreasonable, even given the lower funds available. I believe Ernie even said this is the best squad he has had since coming to the club, too. So they had the excuses and cop outs available but set their own high standard themselves, it isn't just the fans.

Did Ernie say that we expect to make the top four without Hoolahan and Arroyo ? Because that's the reality of what they will need to do.
If that is the case then why bring them here in the first place if we don't need them ?

[380]

Where is the money coming from ? From what Ernie has said we have absolutely nothing to spend for the rest of the season - and by nothing I mean we couldn't outbid NBN League teams let alone local NPL teams for a players services.

Alternatively how about 100 of us here throw in $10k each and we gift someone to the club for a season ?

But nobody will because when it's there money they soon realise it's a poor investment.

Where is the money coming from ?. Didn't our Gypo CEO say there was money available for a " not a household name " from another club from funds set aside in the event there was to be of a return of Joey that could be used ?. Based on those comments i am not sure why you asked that ?. Are Bert and our Gypo CEO giving us conflicting messages.

Thomas James was running around for the Wollongong Wolves so without speaking for what he may be earning on civvy street in his usual day job i would think it is a reasonably safe bet the Wolves are not paying him more than what Joeys deal was worth here in the A League.

If Ernie has said no money and our Gypo CEO has said there is albeit a very conservative amount then is clear there are comm issues at HQ eh ?.

[The Dunster]

Where is the money coming from ?. Didn't our Gypo CEO say there was money available for a " not a household name " from another club from funds set aside in the event there was to be of a return of Joey that could be used ?. Based on those comments i am not sure why you asked that ?. Are Bert and our Gypo CEO giving us conflicting messages.

Thomas James was running around for the Wollongong Wolves so without speaking for what he may be earning on civvy street in his usual day job i would think it is a reasonably safe bet the Wolves are not paying him more than what Joeys deal was worth here in the A League.

If Ernie has said no money and our Gypo CEO has said there is albeit a very conservative amount then is clear there are comm issues at HQ eh ?.

Ernie said we could afford around $3.50 or less - to a Scotsman that's probably a lot of money.

Thomas James is nowhere near as good as Joey C - He's more than likely not as good as Kosta Petratos.
I mean he's on the same managers books as Brandon Lundy and Joey Gibbs ffs - they hardly set the league alight.

You need only look at all the other NPL to A-league failures to realise it's a high risk bet with pretty much zero chance of paying off.

We should be patient - the current squad have enough depth for us to bypass throwing money at NPL players - unless they are exceptional - not merely doing well in an inferior league.

[pv4]

Did Ernie say that we expect to make the top four without Hoolahan and Arroyo ? Because that's the reality of what they will need to do.
If that is the case then why bring them here in the first place if we don't need them ?

Without listening back to the pod again, my memory says Wessi was injured at that time and he acknowledged that. Arroyo would not have been though. But Ernie when planning his squad, goals, etc surely would not have been daft enough to assume he could have went thru the season injury-free, so again I feel it fair to conclude it isn't just fan expectations for a top 4-6 finish.

When you are discussing reasons why to/not to bring players into the squad - aim your sights at Bobby Burns. In Lawrie's words the kid "expires in the heat" and I'm still figuring out why he was brought into an Australian Summer sport.

[The Dunster]

Without listening back to the pod again, my memory says Wessi was injured at that time and he acknowledged that. Arroyo would not have been though. But Ernie when planning his squad, goals, etc surely would not have been daft enough to assume he could have went thru the season injury-free, so again I feel it fair to conclude it isn't just fan expectations for a top 4-6 finish.

When you are discussing reasons why to/not to bring players into the squad - aim your sights at Bobby Burns. In Lawrie's words the kid "expires in the heat" and I'm still figuring out why he was brought into an Australian Summer sport.

Fair enough - I tend to think we are good enough to beat anyone other than Sydney FC more times than not with a little luck / fortune rolling our way.

The Bobby Burns thing could have gone either way. Some do better in the heat than the cold others don't. We found out Burns is in the "don't" camp.

Once you have been on the planet for as long as I have you soon realise that people rarely say what they mean - and usually never if they are being recorded.

I know I don't.

[StannyCFCJET]

Fair enough - I tend to think we are good enough to beat anyone other than Sydney FC more times than not with a little luck / fortune rolling our way.

The Bobby Burns thing could have gone either way. Some do better in the heat than the cold others don't. We found out Burns is in the "don't" camp.

Once you have been on the planet for as long as I have you soon realise that people rarely say what they mean - and usually never if they are being recorded.

I know I don't.

We havent found out anything about Burns and the heat, Ernie is just too loyal IMO

[The Dunster]

We havent found out anything about Burns and the heat, Ernie is just too loyal IMO

Read PV4's post above.

[leftrightout]

I don't need to see my team win every week - I just want to be entertained and in that department I think the team is doing just that.
Yep they are delivering very entertaining football, i really am enjoying watching them play.


Fan expectations here are simply ridiculous.
My expectations are not ridiculous. To be completely honest, they are playing at a quality well beyond my expectations this year. That, however, doesn't mean they aren't scoring as much as they could be. I do not expect them to score every chance they get but watching the weekend and seeing them only score once was difficult.

But there is the defence to look at too. To dominate a game that much and still concede two goals?
If you dominate like they did, a clean sheet should be as expected as more goals.

[The Dunster]

Yep they are delivering very entertaining football, i really am enjoying watching them play.


My expectations are not ridiculous. To be completely honest, they are playing at a quality well beyond my expectations this year. That, however, doesn't mean they aren't scoring as much as they could be. I do not expect them to score every chance they get but watching the weekend and seeing them only score once was difficult.

But there is the defence to look at too. To dominate a game that much and still concede two goals?
If you dominate like they did, a clean sheet should be as expected as more goals.

I think the heat had more to do with the goal we conceded late than anything else. Players were tiring on both sides [Them more than us] and Troisi did what people on his salary should do by beating a tiring defender who's had limited recent game time due to injury.

The Johnny K defensive laps was just a kid getting himself tangled up playing where he's not comfortable.

Agree about us conceding though - I'd maybe chance using Hoff at the back - but Ernie knows better so it's probably not the solution - especially if we are looking for goals - and Hoff can score at times.

On another day we could have scored 5 goals and put the game beyond doubt before the 70 min mark.

In the past we have played poorly and managed to grab a winning goal. That's football.

[380]

Ernie said we could afford around $3.50 or less - to a Scotsman that's probably a lot of money.

Thomas James is nowhere near as good as Joey C - He's more than likely not as good as Kosta Petratos.
I mean he's on the same managers books as Brandon Lundy and Joey Gibbs ffs - they hardly set the league alight.

You need only look at all the other NPL to A-league failures to realise it's a high risk bet with pretty much zero chance of paying off.

We should be patient - the current squad have enough depth for us to bypass throwing money at NPL players - unless they are exceptional - not merely doing well in an inferior league.

Pretty blinkered take on things there D. You use words like " likely " and just because they are on the same books as other players makes them comparable some how. Of course it is a high risk bet to take on a NPL player but isn't that what the league is for, An opportunity to promote outstanding form in a lower league ?. You make mention of Lundy and Gibbs and i agree completely as not good enough at this level but here is the kicker, they did get that opportunity.

I got no problem calling out a player for being not good enough at this level , But that is only after they have been given that chance.

If the A League can't be an opportunity for players like him to be promoted to then just who is it for ?.

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/npl-transfer-radar-wolves-star-attracts-a-league-interest-524723

You mention inferior comp, Aren't they all ,After all there is only one A League however leading the line for this club in this achiev no small feat. I bet there are plenty of 9's running around Y League who would have not minded being in his shoes this past 12-18 months

https://mens.nplnsw.com.au/2019/10/05/wollongong-wolves-crowned-npl-champions-of-australia/

Apparently you must be born in to the A League not promoted to it eh.

[StannyCFCJET]

Read PV4's post above.

Ahhh

[StannyCFCJET]

If we're saving funds for Joey. I'd argue we spend those on someone quality now. He chose to left us and no guarantee he returns and we need a goal scorers now

[StannyCFCJET]

Also the on another day excuse is something we used last season and that another day never came

[Alton]

Tomi Juric?

[StannyCFCJET]

Tomi Juric?

Couldn't afford him even with Joeys funds I reckon

[The Dunster]

If we're saving funds for Joey. I'd argue we spend those on someone quality now. He chose to left us and no guarantee he returns and we need a goal scorers now

You know when you wanted something when you were 7 years old and your parents said "we'll see" and never delivered.

Same situation here with Joey C and bringing in anyone else.

Martin Lee has no intention of spending that money unless Joey C comes back - and I reckon he's banking on him not returning so he doesn't have to spend the money.

[The Dunster]

Tomi Juric?

What happened to the contract he signed with CSKA Sofia 3 months ago ?

https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/signing-news-juric-joins-bulgarian-giants-cska-sofia

[MFKS]

Tomi Juric?

Tomi the donkey Juric Hoff and Fitzuseless up front

That is the funniest idea ever

Bring on the lulz

[Jetmaster]

Wonder how many royboy would of banged in by now if Lord gypo knew what he was doing 🤔

Tipped Roy to get at least 15 this season.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, Ernie plays down bringing anyone in:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie111219.mp4

[380]

These last couple of days re replacement player and how the management at this club have played this out in the media is nothing short of comedy capers.

Our Gypo CEO comes out firstly saying they will look at a replacement using the funds that were there for Joey. If i recall correctly he said we will present a list to Ernie and also went on to say none will be household names.

We then get the very same Gypo CEO talking about not bringing anybody in because they may not be any better than what we have and also saying the other will be well down the track to a return.

Clearly Marty got into the Gypo CEO's ear between those statements and told him he was not spending the cash that the Gypo CEO was referencing.

Talk about bizarre

[StannyCFCJET]

These last couple of days re replacement player and how the management at this club have played this out in the media is nothing short of comedy capers.

Our Gypo CEO comes out firstly saying they will look at a replacement using the funds that were there for Joey. If i recall correctly he said we will present a list to Ernie and also went on to say none will be household names.

We then get the very same Gypo CEO talking about not bringing anybody in because they may not be any better than what we have and also saying the other will be well down the track to a return.

Clearly Marty got into the Gypo CEO's ear between those statements and told him he was not spending the cash that the Gypo CEO was referencing.

Talk about bizarre

Pretty sure he never said we would be spending the Joey funds on anything besides Joey

[380]

Pretty sure he never said we would be spending the Joey funds on anything besides Joey

So how would you interpret this ?.

" McKinna said the Jets have funds, which had been set aside for a possible return by Joey Champness, and would look at all options in January.
"It is about getting somebody who can come in and be up to the level," McKinna said.
"Maybe, we will look at a loan player - a young player from another club. We will look at that and present who is available to Ernie. There will be a few but they won't be household names. They will be fringe players but they have to be better than we have available in the youth team."

FYI i borrowed the quote from a page or two back of this very thread.

[Jeterpool]

These last couple of days re replacement player and how the management at this club have played this out in the media is nothing short of comedy capers.

Our Gypo CEO comes out firstly saying they will look at a replacement using the funds that were there for Joey. If i recall correctly he said we will present a list to Ernie and also went on to say none will be household names.

We then get the very same Gypo CEO talking about not bringing anybody in because they may not be any better than what we have and also saying the other will be well down the track to a return.

Clearly Marty got into the Gypo CEO's ear between those statements and told him he was not spending the cash that the Gypo CEO was referencing.

Talk about bizarre

Almost like the left hand isn't talking to the right....

[MFKS]

So how would you interpret this ?.

" McKinna said the Jets have funds, which had been set aside for a possible return by Joey Champness, and would look at all options in January.
"It is about getting somebody who can come in and be up to the level," McKinna said.
"Maybe, we will look at a loan player - a young player from another club. We will look at that and present who is available to Ernie. There will be a few but they won't be household names. They will be fringe players but they have to be better than we have available in the youth team."

FYI i borrowed the quote from a page or two back of this very thread.

I would interpret it as the Gypo is full of shit

What else could it be??

[Alton]

Tomi the donkey Juric Hoff and Fitzuseless up front

That is the funniest idea ever

Bring on the lulz

So who are your saviours?

[Mark325]

We're apparently looking into signing Ryan Strain

[Tommyjet]

We're apparently looking into signing Ryan Strain

Another fullback? You've got to be kidding

[pv4]

We're apparently looking into signing Ryan Strain

My guess is JohnnyK will head back home to ADL and this will be a straight swap of sorts. Strain's brother Tom is also an attacker in the South Australian NPL, and we seemingly do love signing full families on our roster.

[Frodo]

My guess is JohnnyK will head back home to ADL and this will be a straight swap of sorts. Strain's brother Tom is also an attacker in the South Australian NPL, and we seemingly do love signing full families on our roster.

Hopefully we keep Johnny K as backup for Kanta. Keep Ridenton for a more forward midfield role and hope all this time in defence has helped Johnny's reading of he game. That way we always have Uga free to run the show.

[Jeterpool]

My guess is JohnnyK will head back home to ADL and this will be a straight swap of sorts. Strain's brother Tom is also an attacker in the South Australian NPL, and we seemingly do love signing full families on our roster.

That swap would be criminal.

[380]

Maybe the club sees a future in playing Matt Millar further up the park ?.

[The Dunster]

We're apparently looking into signing Ryan Strain

Newcastle Jets or Modbury Jets in the South Australian State League ?

[Grimario]

Another fullback? You've got to be kidding

People have been shouting for us to punt Hoff out of the starting spot and move Millar forward. Strain is a right back so maybe this achieves that?

Or maybe it's for the ultimate end goal where we just play Hoff up front and sign a roster of fullbacks to overlap each other out wide whilst Petratos, Ug and Kanta play triangles in the middle.

[Jeterpool]

People have been shouting for us to punt Hoff out of the starting spot and move Millar forward. Strain is a right back so maybe this achieves that?

Or maybe it's for the ultimate end goal where we just play Hoff up front and sign a roster of fullbacks to overlap each other out wide whilst Petratos, Ug and Kanta play triangles in the middle.

Please run that through FM and tell us how it pans out. It would be glorious!

[StannyCFCJET]

Please run that through FM and tell us how it pans out. It would be glorious!

Hoff scores even less in FM then he does in real life so worth a shot and Millar defensively in FM is awful

[Grimario]

Please run that through FM and tell us how it pans out. It would be glorious!

Done. Averaged over 1000 passes per game. Fullbacks covered 22km without touching the ball.

Lost 4-0.


Hoff scores even less in FM then he does in real life so worth a shot and Millar defensively in FM is awful

Didn't we just decide you were bad at it so you don't actually know how many Hoff scores? ;)

[StannyCFCJET]

Done. Averaged over 1000 passes per game. Fullbacks covered 22km without touching the ball.

Lost 4-0.



Didn't we just decide you were bad at it so you don't actually know how many Hoff scores? ;)

This FM yeah, Past FM's ive won everything with the Jerks

[StannyCFCJET]

Done. Averaged over 1000 passes per game. Fullbacks covered 22km without touching the ball.

Lost 4-0.

How many shots? over 30?

[Grimario]

How many shots? over 30?

Over 30 shots for the Jerks, only 2 on target for the opposition. Other two were OG's.

[MFKS]

Over 30 shots for the Jerks, only 2 on target for the opposition. Other two were OG's.
Classic Jets

Seems pretty accurate to me

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, members day, only audio is interviews

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmembers131219.mp4

Story from the other night

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsernie111219.mp4

[plague]

ok, hear me out.

if i was running a broke ass club and if had questionable morals* and had to think of something to sell tickets id probably entertain the idea of giving out a 6 week contract to a bloke who just wanted to come out here on holiday but not want to play for a broke ass club but id pay his trip and get him to play some meaningless games then get the fans hopes up that we'd signed someone good and sell memberships and get positive PR and then just make up a pretend injury so he could walk away from the club and then I can say "aww shucks it would be good if he didnt get injured we'd win the comp etc etc" and ride it out til we can sell our broke ass club to another sucker who could actually sign good players to properly play for our team.


hashtagstaywoke
hashtagfakenews
hashtaghillarysemails
hashtagdraintheswamp





* spoiler alert, i have questionable morals.

[MFKS]

ok, hear me out.

if i was running a broke ass club and if had questionable morals* and had to think of something to sell tickets id probably entertain the idea of giving out a 6 week contract to a bloke who just wanted to come out here on holiday but not want to play for a broke ass club but id pay his trip and get him to play some meaningless games then get the fans hopes up that we'd signed someone good and sell memberships and get positive PR and then just make up a pretend injury so he could walk away from the club and then I can say "aww shucks it would be good if he didnt get injured we'd win the comp etc etc" and ride it out til we can sell our broke ass club to another sucker who could actually sign good players to properly play for our team.


hashtagstaywoke
hashtagfakenews
hashtaghillarysemails
hashtagdraintheswamp





* spoiler alert, i have questionable morals.

You do realise we are more than capable of signing basketcase injury prone has beens already??

We don't need to actually try to do that

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN the other night pre Topor's 300th
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstopa141219.mp4

NBN tonight Ernie admits we were shit...
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsvcity161219.mp4
Note to NBN - count was 1400+ teddies, not 1200...

[MFKS]

Kanta has signed a 2 year deal to stay here as opposed to signing for Bayern

[Jeterpool]

A-League Contracts
1 Glen Moss – signed until 19/20
2 Bobby Burns - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
8 Wes Hoolahan - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
9 Abdiel Arroyo - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
14 Kaine Sheppard - signed until 19/20
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
23 Matthew Ridenton - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Youth Contracts
25 Jack Simmons - unsure, youth contract (i.e. not first team)
27 Maki Petratos - Youth Contract

21 Spots used, 2 remaining (including 1 visa spot available)

Expiring 19/20
1 Glen Moss – signed until 19/20
2 Bobby Burns - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
4 Nigel Boogaard – signed until 19/20
8 Wes Hoolahan - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
9 Abdiel Arroyo - signed on loan ending 19/20 (Foreign)
14 Kaine Sheppard - signed until 19/20
19 Kosta Petratos - signed until 19/20
20 Lewis Italiano - signed until 19/20
23 Matthew Ridenton - signed until 19/20 (Foreign)
28 Patrick Langlois – signed until 19/20

Expiring 20/21
6 Steven Ugarkovic – signed until 20/21
10 Dimitri Petratos – signed until 20/21
11 Nick Fitzgerald - signed until 20/21
16 Matt Millar - signed until 20/21
22 Lachlan Jackson – signed until 20/21
44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley – signed until 20/21

Expiring 21/22
3 Jason Hoffman – signed until 21/22
5 Ben Kantarovski – signed until 21/22
18 John Koutroumbis – signed until 21/22
24 Joe Champness – signed until 21/22
32 Angus Thurgate – signed until 21/22

[Frodo]

Offer Langlois and Jackson a new deal and tell Sheppard he's got his chance to earn his over the next month. (Then give him one anyways cause we need a backup striker either way)

Cut the others with expiring contracts. We would then have a decent amount of coin to play with next season finding fullbacks, a CB and one decent, fit, uninjured striker to bang in 10-15 goals.

[belchardo]

yes, i think Boogard should be moved on at the end of this season - on the proviso that he is actually on decent money. If he is on a cheap deal, then i'm open to keeping him for another year.

[Frodo]

yes, i think Boogard should be moved on at the end of this season - on the proviso that he is actually on decent money. If he is on a cheap deal, then i'm open to keeping him for another year.

He'll be assistant coaching next year I'd guess.

[belchardo]

just out of interest, do a-league clubs ever go to local coaches and offer them assistant coaching gigs? seems like it's straight out of the team and into a coaching role these days (probably happened for ever). would be nice if coaches had some career progression paths.

[380]

just out of interest, do a-league clubs ever go to local coaches and offer them assistant coaching gigs? seems like it's straight out of the team and into a coaching role these days (probably happened for ever). would be nice if coaches had some career progression paths.

Yep its pretty screwed the A League is when it comes to providing opportunities for either players or coaches from the " lower leagues " as it was put to me just over a week ago on here when discussing replacement players.

Apparently the A League is a closed shop and you must be born into it as opposed to working up to it. Like the bloke or not or his club for that matter but the moment Zane departed the other one should have been offered an opportunity at this level given his form with teams at the " lower level ".

As for players it appears some pundits would much prefer watching blokes like Fitzuseless and Scott Neville go around for there 50th club in 10 yrs.

You are right Belch the league that all should work hard and many show decent form to gain entry to is the biggest closed shop of all.

[The Dunster]

just out of interest, do a-league clubs ever go to local coaches and offer them assistant coaching gigs? seems like it's straight out of the team and into a coaching role these days (probably happened for ever). would be nice if coaches had some career progression paths.

It's always been the case and nothing specific to the A-league. it makes sense as well - players are going to have more respect for someone that's played at or coached at that level than those that haven't. The Special One is a bit of an outlier - and a few great players have failed as well - but I still think going from a player straight into coaching ranks at a similar level is the way to do things.
In the top leagues overseas maybe starting a tier down - but not in Australia - the gap is too big [money, ego's, sponsors, player skill, training, personal managers, the media's influence ...almost like a different game].

[380]

It's always been the case and nothing specific to the A-league. it makes sense as well - players are going to have more respect for someone that's played at or coached at that level than those that haven't. The Special One is a bit of an outlier - and a few great players have failed as well - but I still think going from a player straight into coaching ranks at a similar level is the way to do things.
In the top leagues overseas maybe starting a tier down - but not in Australia - the gap is too big [money, ego's, sponsors, player skill, training, personal managers, the media's influence ...almost like a different game].

Thats ridiculous too say we should not provide opportunities because players may not respect them. Players are paid to play , They are not paid to love there coaches or sleep with them or live with them . They are paid to do as they are told and if they don't like that they can find another club for there so easily bruised precious ego's. If players can't somehow manage to respect a bloke or Sheila who has toiled away busting there ass in a lower league like the Edgy coach as an example or Zad's getting results on bread crumbs for there labour with half the resources then i think that says more about the player than any aspiring coach.

You sound like you are more than happy to have the A League as some sort of " in club " and if you are a local aspiring coach or player in a lower league then to bad for you the A League is not for you.

[The Dunster]

Thats ridiculous too say we should not provide opportunities because players may not respect them. Players are paid to play , They are not paid to love there coaches or sleep with them or live with them . They are paid to do as they are told and if they don't like that they can find another club for there so easily bruised precious ego's. If players can't somehow manage to respect a bloke or Sheila who has toiled away busting there ass in a lower league like the Edgy coach as an example or Zad's getting results on bread crumbs for there labour with half the resources then i think that says more about the player than any aspiring coach.

You sound like you are more than happy to have the A League as some sort of " in club " and if you are a local aspiring coach or player in a lower league then to bad for you the A League is not for you.

It's how the world works. Very few people get anywhere starting from the bottom and working there way up in any line of work or profession. That's why when they do it's big news - if it was a common thing it wouldn't be big news.

Status carries a lot of weight in this world and it's a waste of time and energy trying to change it.

[turbojetfireV8]

Kanta has signed a 2 year deal to stay here as opposed to signing for Bayern

NBN Kanta story from Friday night
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsben201219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN on loss, criticism of club leadership, cost cutting:

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsvperth221219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsboogaard261219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetspetratos271218.mp4

[mic22]

Ernie with some updates on Wessi and Arroyo
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6rXeswlkMw/

If Wessi starts running tomorrow... when will we see him playing? (or, will we see him at all?)

[belchardo]

tuesday next week he said (first tuesday in January), and he also said he's running on the altered gravity treadmill i think. We won't see him for a month yet i reckon.

[mic22]

tuesday next week he said (first tuesday in January), and he also said he's running on the altered gravity treadmill i think. We won't see him for a month yet i reckon.

A month would be terrific news.
I have a feeling it will be more than that.

[MFKS]

A month would be terrific news.
I have a feeling it will be more than that.

It is the Jets

This bloke is bound to get injured again before he kits up

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN wrap up of Roar match
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdraw291219.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

Don't think Stephen Mount is big on fact checking... how hard is it to get last week's scoreline right??

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsupdate010120.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmoss030120.mp4

[mic22]

It is the Jets

This bloke is bound to get injured again before he kits up

No need for that.
Apparently he just started on the altered gravity treadmill, so my bet is on late February.
By that time, there will be no need for him to come back at all...

[Grimario]

No need for that.
Apparently he just started on the altered gravity treadmill, so my bet is on late February.
By that time, there will be no need for him to come back at all...

That's actually perfect timing. We'll be out of contention and he'll be fit, playing amazingly well, linking up everyone and turning us into world beaters, setting us all up to get excited for next season... Only for him to not be here, along with half our decent players.

[mic22]

That's actually perfect timing. We'll be out of contention and he'll be fit, playing amazingly well, linking up everyone and turning us into world beaters, setting us all up to get excited for next season... Only for him to not be here, along with half our decent players.

You made me realise I still have work to do before I can call myself a true Jets fan.
Thanks for the masterclass 😉

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN's post mortem tonight

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/erniegone060120.mp4
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2020/01/06/ernie-merrick-parts-way-with-newcastle-jets/

[W8 WATCHER]

probably the best for ernie,
watching extremley poor quality players that would definitely struggle in any NPL, would do him no favours with his mental health

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Sven Göran has to be taking the piss...
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/mckinnapresser070120.mp4

All hands on dick at Jets training (holding the fort till Sven Göran gets here):
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/teamlatest070120.mp4

[MFKS]

So Boogaard and Arroyo are training and we ain't playing them??

WTF is wrong with this club ??

Got no striker but we got one who can get through training 3 days out from match day and the ****s ain't good enough for a bench spot

Got a club captain who has played 250+ games at this level in a side leaking 4+ goals a game yet we will leave him out

****ing idiots

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Ernie on his sacking
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/ernieresponds080119.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Deans on caretaker role
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdeans080120.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Boogs on Ernie, squad effort etc
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsboogaard090120.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN Wes on his progress
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetshoolahan100120.mp4