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So we are gonna sign an injured Gypo and a semi-injured old Welsh bloke who's played 1 game of football in the last 12 months?
Classic Jets.
Actually, Classic Jets would be to sign Ledley but not being able to play him because we forgot about the Visa rules.
Delete your post NOW
Don't give the Gypo CEO any ****ing ideas
The Dunster
21-02-2020, 01:04 PM
So Robinson saying bernie and joe are 2 of 5-6 players we looking at. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Davies and Jordan Mutch are part of that. Mutch played for Robinson at Vancouver and Davies came through wolves and played with miller.
Neither Davies or Mutch are with Carl's player agent of choice - so I'd be surprised if they came here unless they defect to another agency.
Tommyjet
21-02-2020, 01:51 PM
Neither Davies or Mutch are with Carl's player agent of choice - so I'd be surprised if they came here unless they defect to another agency.
I doubt that is gonna be an absolute prerequisite when signing players, some will definitely come in from outside of Baldwin's mob
Frodo
21-02-2020, 07:58 PM
Plague is gonna be devastated if he ever comes back. Lustica has signed with Western United. Although, with that club looking like it's gonna fold sooner than us, he might still be able to see him throw on our jersey in the near future.
baldrick
21-02-2020, 08:01 PM
Plague is gonna be devastated if he ever comes back
We might need a where’s Plague thread to flush him out
turbojetfireV8
21-02-2020, 08:01 PM
NBN Wes a good chance for the bench
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsrobinson210220.mp4
turbojetfireV8
21-02-2020, 08:17 PM
Um, it was common knowledge that Burns wasn't fit enough when he arrived and Ernie didn't trust him to last 90 mins. Its over halfway through the season and you can see how much he struggles even now with fitness. But at least he can last 90 mins now, hence why he is playing and Johnny K is back on the right and centre where he should be.
Bobby was the reason that Bobby wasn't playing. Not Ernie. You can't expect a coach to sub a fullback at halftime or 60 mins each week, that's a waste of a sub.
Still disagree with Burns not acclimatising to a 30+ degree temperature rise as being solely a fitness issue. Speculating I could say part may have been a psychological barrier, but it did take him time to acclimatise to 30-40 degree temps (he's probably used to 25 being a heatwave up that part of the world). That said, he was ready to play long before he got the chance to, fitness alone isn't a believable reason why Burns wasn't getting picked under Ernie - suddenly Deans comes in as coach and he's fit then but not while Ernie was still coach?? He also wouldn't be the only younger player who's ever got pulled before a match ended because they've run out of puff, don't think it's as easy as not being fit, Ernie would even use him as a sub...
belchardo
21-02-2020, 08:52 PM
We might need a where’s Plague thread to flush him out
We all know what the absence of plague means...the birds finally got him
Frodo
21-02-2020, 08:58 PM
Still disagree with Burns not acclimatising to a 30+ degree temperature rise as being solely a fitness issue. Speculating I could say part may have been a psychological barrier, but it did take him time to acclimatise to 30-40 degree temps (he's probably used to 25 being a heatwave up that part of the world). That said, he was ready to play long before he got the chance to, fitness alone isn't a believable reason why Burns wasn't getting picked under Ernie - suddenly Deans comes in as coach and he's fit then but not while Ernie was still coach?? He also wouldn't be the only younger player who's ever got pulled before a match ended because they've run out of puff, don't think it's as easy as not being fit, Ernie would even use him as a sub...
The other part of him not being picked is the fact that he's still not great. He's not bad going forward, but isn't great defensively at all. Same as Millar. Ernie was also probably biased against him after using a visa spot on a kid who took longer to get fit/acclimatise than some 30+ yr olds from the same part of the world. I can't blame him either. I'm hoping O'Toole gets a run soon and can do both parts of the job. Losing Vujica and George in the same window was terrible squad management from all involved.
StannyCFCJET
21-02-2020, 10:02 PM
The other part of him not being picked is the fact that he's still not great. He's not bad going forward, but isn't great defensively at all. Same as Millar. Ernie was also probably biased against him after using a visa spot on a kid who took longer to get fit/acclimatise than some 30+ yr olds from the same part of the world. I can't blame him either. I'm hoping O'Toole gets a run soon and can do both parts of the job. Losing Vujica and George in the same window was terrible squad management from all involved.
Vujica asked to leave pretty much because Ernie had frozen him out when he was our best LB
Couscous
22-02-2020, 09:15 AM
Vujica asked to leave pretty much because Ernie had frozen him out when he was our best LB
And he's made the most of his new club, I see ...
StannyCFCJET
22-02-2020, 09:21 AM
And he's made the most of his new club, I see ...
Rudan is a muppet Vujica has shown he is good enough at a-league level. But WU will be extinct in a few years so **** em
Rudan is a muppet Vujica has shown he is good enough at a-league level. But WU will be extinct in a few years so **** em
Jones
Merrick
Rudan
THERE IS A PATTERN HERE I NOTICING
The bloke is too small and not quick enough at this level to play left back
That is something you continue to ignore
StannyCFCJET
22-02-2020, 10:46 AM
Jones
Merrick
Rudan
THERE IS A PATTERN HERE I NOTICING
The bloke is too small and not quick enough at this level to play left back
That is something you continue to ignore
I disagree hugely as I also do with Burns. Johnny K is tall and quick but is rubbish at fulback as was Jackson
I disagree hugely as I also do with Burns. Johnny K is tall and quick but is rubbish at fulback as was Jackson
This is what it feels like to be wrong
3 coaches all reject Vujica. Must be a reason why. I am going to throw up he offers neither size or speed in his role as reasons
Refute them all you like
Burns is also garbage . Cost us a goal last week because he got owned by Kamau of all peopke. Whips in 30 crosses a game that look well flighted but do not find our attackers so are pointless. Can't even run 90 mins out FFS
Johnny K ain't a left back and should never have been there in the first place. Much better suited at RB put for some reason Merrick persisted in leaving him at LB
I ain't saying he a right back either. I think Right CB is his position he much better suited there at RB than LB
As for Jackson
Bloke looks like he in a 3 legged race with 3 left legs when playing left back in an attacking sense. He stifles attacks because he offers nothing going forward. His ability defensively though at LB isn't an issue. He for the most part sticks to his man pretty good at LB. Plenty of times he been played up against a Barbarousis type and he has marked them out of the game. Every now and then he got caught out of position at Left Back. But that ain't that much of a surprise when it is part of his game at Centre Back also
He ain't an ideal solution at LB but he the best option of these 4 by a lomg way
" His ability defensively though at LB isn't an issue. He for the most part sticks to his man pretty good at LB ".
I will have some some of that shite you smok'n member ,You clearly forgotten the start of last season where Bert was playing Jackson at LB and was not even on the same continent as his opponent. He was terrible at LB and was on the end of similar criticism Johnny K was subject to at the start of this season.
The start of last season seen Bert's selections questioned week after week and one of those positions under scrutiny was the continued selection of Jackson at LB. Bert tried both Jackson and Johnny K in position and both stunk in it.
" His ability defensively though at LB isn't an issue. He for the most part sticks to his man pretty good at LB ".
I will have some some of that shite you smok'n member ,You clearly forgotten the start of last season where Bert was playing Jackson at LB and was not even on the same continent as his opponent. He was terrible at LB and was on the end of similar criticism Johnny K was subject to at the start of this season.
The start of last season seen Bert's selections questioned week after week and one of those positions under scrutiny was the continued selection of Jackson at LB. Bert tried both Jackson and Johnny K in position and both stunk in it.
He played about 5 games there
No he wasn't anywhere close to the criticism Johnny K got
You making out that this is some ideal choice
It like picking between Aids Cancer Hanging with Gypos etc as your form of death.
They all suck
Just as if I picking Right Back
I would play Hoff Boogaard Johnny K there before that Gypo Miller gets a run
StannyCFCJET
22-02-2020, 02:19 PM
" His ability defensively though at LB isn't an issue. He for the most part sticks to his man pretty good at LB ".
I will have some some of that shite you smok'n member ,You clearly forgotten the start of last season where Bert was playing Jackson at LB and was not even on the same continent as his opponent. He was terrible at LB and was on the end of similar criticism Johnny K was subject to at the start of this season.
The start of last season seen Bert's selections questioned week after week and one of those positions under scrutiny was the continued selection of Jackson at LB. Bert tried both Jackson and Johnny K in position and both stunk in it.
Whereas Ivan played the last few games and looked good
turbojetfireV8
23-02-2020, 06:59 PM
NBN wrap up
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsdrawvictory230220.mp4
Ok so Berinie Ibini in a Beanie is a short term thing til seasons end. Unless and i stress unless if this is all it is and no part of this deal includes potential to be here next season then why bother i say.
Ok so Berinie Ibini in a Beanie is a short term thing til seasons end. Unless and i stress unless if this is all it is and no part of this deal includes potential to be here next season then why bother i say.
Gypo failed a medical at his last club he attempted to join 1 month ago
This Gypo is ticking all the boxes to get a deal with us
I backing the Gypo CEO gives his Gypo mate a deal into next year so he can get paid by us not play for us get fit and then **** off on us to a better club and we won't get paid out of it
Link to article about it:
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6644878/a-league-former-socceroo-to-join-jets-on-short-term-contract/?cs=7573
BeIN confirmation that Ledley has joined us..
https://www.beinsports.com/au/a-league/video/joe-ledley-joins-newcastle-jets/1420259
Why are we bothering with these potentially short term deals FFS ?. We have enough of a squad to get through to the end of the season and be planning long term deals not unlike the circumstances around Roy's return which is inclusive of next season.
I get these signings are sensible if there is a view to making them part of the squad for next season however if they are strictly just short term til seasons end then i say who cares !!!!!.
Frodo
24-02-2020, 12:14 PM
Why are we bothering with these potentially short term deals FFS ?. We have enough of a squad to get through to the end of the season and be planning long term deals not unlike the circumstances around Roy's return which is inclusive of next season.
I get these signings are sensible if there is a view to making them part of the squad for next season however if they are strictly just short term til seasons end then i say who cares !!!!!.
We are still trying to hock the club off to anyone who's interested. So short term deals and cost cutting will be the way until we are sold.
Tommyjet
24-02-2020, 01:02 PM
Why are we bothering with these potentially short term deals FFS ?. We have enough of a squad to get through to the end of the season and be planning long term deals not unlike the circumstances around Roy's return which is inclusive of next season.
I get these signings are sensible if there is a view to making them part of the squad for next season however if they are strictly just short term til seasons end then i say who cares !!!!!.
Think of it as a fitness test and trial for next season
lil_masi
24-02-2020, 01:14 PM
Think of it as a fitness test and trial for next season
I think this may be the case.
Why are we bothering with these potentially short term deals FFS ?. We have enough of a squad to get through to the end of the season and be planning long term deals not unlike the circumstances around Roy's return which is inclusive of next season.
I get these signings are sensible if there is a view to making them part of the squad for next season however if they are strictly just short term til seasons end then i say who cares !!!!!.
Do not apply LOGIC to comprehend decisions at the Jets
We got our own way of doing things and got no time for you and your logic
Has anyone been to training lately??
I was wondering if these two blokes have been sighted at all, or they still on their way over, or what..
Trying to determine a rough ETA to seeing them on the pitch (withstanding the usual Jets excuses about fitness, melting in the sun, 4-6 weeks, etc etc)
Roundball Enthusiast
24-02-2020, 02:23 PM
Ledley has EPL experience and 70 Wales caps. He's a bit older, no issues bringing him in to help the squad till the end of the season, he's a free after all (except salary)
Beanie played under Carl at Vancouver, knows his management style and play style. Decent striker. No issues with him coming in, hopefully we can keep him next season too.
Everyone complaining we were never spending money to improve the squad, we're doing it now in a manner that makes sense (short term deal to prove themselves, sign an extension is they're good enough) and everyone loses their shit.
Can never win as Jets Management.
lil_masi
24-02-2020, 02:30 PM
Ledley has EPL experience and 70 Wales caps. He's a bit older, no issues bringing him in to help the squad till the end of the season, he's a free after all (except salary)
Beanie played under Carl at Vancouver, knows his management style and play style. Decent striker. No issues with him coming in, hopefully we can keep him next season too.
Everyone complaining we were never spending money to improve the squad, we're doing it now in a manner that makes sense (short term deal to prove themselves, sign an extension is they're good enough) and everyone loses their shit.
Can never win as Jets Management.
I agree. We always say we never sign quality, jets never bring in anyone, well these are 2 quality signings. I'm happy with them. Ledley could be the jets best CM/DM ever.
Now we've got attacking players: wes/dimi/arroyo/roy/ibini and mids: stevie/ledley/thurgate. Just wish it was earlier in the season!!
Ledley has EPL experience and 70 Wales caps. He's a bit older, no issues bringing him in to help the squad till the end of the season, he's a free after all (except salary)
Beanie played under Carl at Vancouver, knows his management style and play style. Decent striker. No issues with him coming in, hopefully we can keep him next season too.
Everyone complaining we were never spending money to improve the squad, we're doing it now in a manner that makes sense (short term deal to prove themselves, sign an extension is they're good enough) and everyone loses their shit.
Can never win as Jets Management.
Who is complaining or losing there shit ?. Only against if it short term and short term only, Then it will seem like a WOFTAM. If it is with a view to longer term then great there is a method to the process. That is pretty much what you posted is it not ?.
I take it you missed this bit
" I get these signings are sensible if there is a view to making them part of the squad for next season however if they are strictly just short term til seasons end then i say who cares !!!!!. "
Who is complaining or losing there shit ?. Only against if it short term and short term only does it seem like a WOFTAM. If it is with a view to longer term then great there is a method to the process. That is pretty much what you posted is it not ?.
I think what Roundball is alluding to, is if they did make it a deal for longer than till the end of the season (ie 2 years) then you would have people blowing up about it..
I took it as - No matter what the club does, we are going to piss and moan..
Bremsstrahlung
24-02-2020, 03:21 PM
Agree with the sentiment that these two are decent signings. Happy with both of them tbh.
IF, we have intentions/the ability to secure them for next season provided we are happy.
If they are simply here to waste time before they sign with SFC or some other club, then it’s a silly move. I’d rather us plod along and new coach to get a good look at the whole squad to decide where we can target.
Hope it’s with a short term trial with intention to bring them in next season.
Mark325
24-02-2020, 03:24 PM
I'd imagine this will be a matter of signing these players short term, seeing how they handle themselves and if the results are good then we'll have them for next season and they'll be at full fitness
i feel like this will be the most stacked bench we've had in a very long time as a club. Having players such as ibini, ledley, wes as subs is something this club can never really say its had
Aegon
24-02-2020, 03:40 PM
Ledley has EPL experience and 70 Wales caps. He's a bit older, no issues bringing him in to help the squad till the end of the season, he's a free after all (except salary)
Beanie played under Carl at Vancouver, knows his management style and play style. Decent striker. No issues with him coming in, hopefully we can keep him next season too.
Everyone complaining we were never spending money to improve the squad, we're doing it now in a manner that makes sense (short term deal to prove themselves, sign an extension is they're good enough) and everyone loses their shit.
Can never win as Jets Management.
This.....
Frodo
24-02-2020, 04:13 PM
Ledley hasn't really kicked a ball in anger in the last 12 months after returning from injury and Bernie failed a medical a month or so ago. You can get as excited as you want, but there's a huge chance these two flop given our previous track record and their current fitness levels. Happy to be wrong tho.
But none of this changes the fact that the Gypo in charge can still get out of our club as soon as possible. What are we at now, 6 ex-gypos on the field now? It's a joke.
Look at this BS
****s celebrating the signing of a ****ing Gypo to our club by using words like decent and quality to describe someone who is nothing more than an injury prone washed up never was Gypo
FMD some of you guys won't be happy until the Gypo CEO has a squad full of Gypo scum disgracing us on a weekly basis
Aegon
24-02-2020, 07:01 PM
Look at this BS
****s celebrating the signing of a ****ing Gypo to our club by using words like decent and quality to describe someone who is nothing more than an injury prone washed up never was Gypo
FMD some of you guys won't be happy until the Gypo CEO has a squad full of Gypo scum disgracing us on a weekly basis
You and the anti mariners club are hilarious. A rivalry only for the sake they are our closest neighbour that was created more recently than most millennials were born.
All this Gypo rubbish just makes me think some coastie cut your grass in the past and you haven’t been able to repair the emotional scars.
Lawrie is an approachable CEO who has shown he has the clubs best interest at the forefront of his goals. He could fill our team with former mariners and Sydney players and if it delivers good football and hopefully success then I will thank him for it.
You and the anti mariners club are hilarious. A rivalry only for the sake they are our closest neighbour that was created more recently than most millennials were born.
All this Gypo rubbish just makes me think some coastie cut your grass in the past and you haven’t been able to repair the emotional scars.
Lawrie is an approachable CEO who has shown he has the clubs best interest at the forefront of his goals. He could fill our team with former mariners and Sydney players and if it delivers good football and hopefully success then I will thank him for it.
Bloke has achieved what with us??
His entire time has been a failure
We finished 8th before the Gypo arrived
We are now sitting pretty in 10th position
PROGRESS
We also got another wooden spoon in that time as well
This is how bad of a job that is being done. We sacked a manager then took 5 ****ing weeks to replace him whilst any chance of salvaging the season was frittered away
You think he doing a great job??
Bremsstrahlung
24-02-2020, 08:37 PM
Bloke has achieved what with us??
His entire time has been a failure
We finished 8th before the Gypo arrived
We are now sitting pretty in 10th position
PROGRESS
We also got another wooden spoon in that time as well
This is how bad of a job that is being done. We sacked a manager then took 5 ****ing weeks to replace him whilst any chance of salvaging the season was frittered away
You think he doing a great job??
Also made our 2nd GF, this time without Griff, so fmd that’s a decent achievement.
There hasn’t been much to cheer about in our entire existence.
But him and Merrick gave us a season in the “top 3” best seasons we’ve had.
turbojetfireV8
24-02-2020, 08:45 PM
NBN Ibini signed
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/bernie240220.mp4
turbojetfireV8
24-02-2020, 08:52 PM
where does signing Ledley leave us visa wise - has Ridenton gone yet??
The Hacker
24-02-2020, 10:12 PM
Also made our 2nd GF, this time without Griff, so fmd that’s a decent achievement.
There hasn’t been much to cheer about in our entire existence.
But him and Merrick gave us a season in the “top 3” best seasons we’ve had.
As long as Simon, Mrdja or Hutchinson don’t play for or work at the club do we really care about all the others. Players swap clubs between rivals all around the world. You just don’t want the ones we have hatred for. It’s a 10 team comp only so your going to get players moving between rivalries. I bet Sydney supporters weren’t carrying on when Kosta Barbarouses signed from Melbourne.
As for Ibini at the end of the year if he plays like dog s@&t or plays 1 game and is injured the rest the go your hardest but he wears our shirt now so how about we get behind the guy and reserve judgement till he’s played for us.
We want him to try his guts out for us if he read this forum I wouldn’t blame him kicking the ball in our own net ripping his shirt off to have a mariners shirt under with F U Member written on it.
Give the guy a chance so he wants to put in for us
If Bernie the Gypo gave the Member the big F U i am tipping the member would wear that as badge of honor.
Jeterpool
25-02-2020, 05:32 AM
where does signing Ledley leave us visa wise - has Ridenton gone yet??
We need too release a visa player to make room
Tommyjet
25-02-2020, 06:58 AM
We need too release a visa player to make room
From ridentons point of view I see this as career suicide to accept a payout unless he has something like mls lined up.
What other transfer windows are open?
The Dunster
25-02-2020, 07:31 AM
As long as Simon, Mrdja or Hutchinson don’t play for or work at the club do we really care about all the others. Players swap clubs between rivals all around the world. You just don’t want the ones we have hatred for. It’s a 10 team comp only so your going to get players moving between rivalries. I bet Sydney supporters weren’t carrying on when Kosta Barbarouses signed from Melbourne.
As for Ibini at the end of the year if he plays like dog s@&t or plays 1 game and is injured the rest the go your hardest but he wears our shirt now so how about we get behind the guy and reserve judgement till he’s played for us.
We want him to try his guts out for us if he read this forum I wouldn’t blame him kicking the ball in our own net ripping his shirt off to have a mariners shirt under with F U Member written on it.
Give the guy a chance so he wants to put in for us
Welcome to the forum Adam Kwasnik.
Jeterpool
25-02-2020, 07:37 AM
From ridentons point of view I see this as career suicide to accept a payout unless he has something like mls lined up.
What other transfer windows are open?
He's well-thought-of in Wellington, but I think they've moved on (football-wise) from what he offers. I could see him heading to Macarthur or even Victory.
The Dunster
25-02-2020, 07:52 AM
Seeing Kosta Petratos on the field recently makes me wonder why Ernie didn't give him more opportunities. He's very good with the ball at his feet and doesn't have any problems beating players one on one.
Frodo
25-02-2020, 07:53 AM
He's well-thought-of in Wellington, but I think they've moved on (football-wise) from what he offers. I could see him heading to Macarthur or even Victory.
I read about a very weak rumour that Ibini has a gentlemans handshake with Macarthur next season. I would laugh very heartily if that's the case and he just uses us to get fit again.
Tommyjet
25-02-2020, 08:13 AM
He's well-thought-of in Wellington, but I think they've moved on (football-wise) from what he offers. I could see him heading to Macarthur or even Victory.
Yeah I just mean being able to move outside the window. Overrated kiwis seem to find a way in america
Jeterpool
25-02-2020, 08:54 AM
I read about a very weak rumour that Ibini has a gentlemans handshake with Macarthur next season. I would laugh very heartily if that's the case and he just uses us to get fit again.
I wonder if that's like the gentleman's handshake we had with Carle and Nabbout... :gent:
ForeverRed
25-02-2020, 11:08 AM
I heard browns time is up as loanee in a couple of weeks, if this happens this Ledley and o’toole both play
StannyCFCJET
25-02-2020, 11:14 AM
I heard browns time is up as loanee in a couple of weeks, if this happens this Ledley and o’toole both play
Brown?
Brown?
I'm going to assume he means Burns?
Tommyjet
25-02-2020, 11:32 AM
I'm going to assume he means Burns?
That's who I'd assume would be easiest to move
StannyCFCJET
25-02-2020, 11:36 AM
I wonder if that's like the gentleman's handshake we had with Carle and Nabbout... :gent:
Carle asked to come back Con said no If I remember, Way different to the Nabbout issue
StannyCFCJET
25-02-2020, 11:36 AM
I think we need Burns if we want to push up the table
Alton
25-02-2020, 01:01 PM
I heard browns time is up as loanee in a couple of weeks, if this happens this Ledley and o’toole both play
Come on Red why Brown? Is it a colour thing?
evolution
25-02-2020, 01:18 PM
Ridenton released from his contract #praisegriff
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/ridenton-departs-newcastle-jets
Mark325
25-02-2020, 01:20 PM
i imagine this means the ledley signing is gonna be announced soon, hopefully in time for him to play next week
Mark325
25-02-2020, 01:27 PM
i imagine this means the ledley signing is gonna be announced soon, hopefully in time for him to play next week
and we just signed ledley
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/news/a-league-joe-ledley-signs-newcastle?fbclid=IwAR2Gdg1rCzdptwJ4yyt8JMyL2AQMBrO i0epEBeIY5NZaZHMRYI5rt6CIHaw
Tommyjet
25-02-2020, 01:27 PM
i imagine this means the ledley signing is gonna be announced soon, hopefully in time for him to play next week
He is arriving today I heard but yeah depends on fitness and visa etc
Charman
25-02-2020, 01:28 PM
Seeing Kosta Petratos on the field recently makes me wonder why Ernie didn't give him more opportunities. He's very good with the ball at his feet and doesn't have any problems beating players one on one.
HUH? Dimi, is that you?
The Dunster
25-02-2020, 01:34 PM
Is Kanta out long term because it looks a lot like the clubs setting up for a future without him.
The Hacker
25-02-2020, 02:26 PM
Is Kanta out long term because it looks a lot like the clubs setting up for a future without him.
He might find himself as a centre back
Hunter403
25-02-2020, 02:39 PM
Love Kanta, but too slow.
Jardelsimage
25-02-2020, 03:16 PM
well with all these new signings, how they gunna line up...….
Mark325
25-02-2020, 03:33 PM
well with all these new signings, how they gunna line up...….
I'd say playing a 4-2-2-2 would suit this team, similar to how sydney set up
Arroyo/Ibini - Roy
Dimi - Wessi
Ugar - Ledley
Burns - Topor - Boogs - Millar
Italiano
Bench: Arroyo/Ibini, Thurgate, Hoffman, Moss, Johnny K, Kosta/Shep, O'Toole
The Dunster
25-02-2020, 04:08 PM
Love Kanta, but too slow.
I think the same way. He's lost a yard or two and is no longer the player he once was.
redwah
25-02-2020, 05:30 PM
I'd say playing a 4-2-2-2 would suit this team, similar to how sydney set up
Arroyo/Ibini - Roy
Dimi - Wessi
Ugar - Ledley
Burns - Topor - Boogs - Millar
Italiano
Bench: Arroyo/Ibini, Thurgate, Hoffman, Moss, Langlois, Kosta/Shep, O'Toole
Jesus hey Johnny K from starting to out of the squad..
Mark325
25-02-2020, 06:03 PM
Jesus hey Johnny K from starting to out of the squad..
edited cause yeaa he deserves the bench spot more then langlois does
Frodo
25-02-2020, 06:56 PM
edited cause yeaa he deserves the bench spot more then langlois does
He deserves a starting spot over Millar, who is not a RB by any stretch of the imagination.
turbojetfireV8
25-02-2020, 09:39 PM
if Ridenton is a free agent now wouldn't it make it easier for him to sign for an A-League club if he wanted for the rest of this season?
Re Ridenton , What HAL would have him ?. So overrated.
As for Johnny K, Bloke needs to lose the hairband, Get a haircut whatever it takes Spends way too much time worrying about adjusting this than the game. Ever since he let his hair grow and got the hairband his game has gone to shit.
More importantly spare a thought for the Member and what a lousy couple of days he has had. Gypo Bernie signed sealed and delivered and being Ridentons number 1 fan the bloke must be beside himself in great sadness at present.
turbojetfireV8
25-02-2020, 09:47 PM
I'm getting worried about Johnny's long term viability - he can attack pretty well, but passing can sometimes be an issue and defending isn't his strongest point, is he improving enough in the weaker areas to be guaranteed a spot in the squad if we want to strenghten our all too frequent dodgy defensive slip-ups, do they try pushing him forward to avoid relying on him to defend, or will be eventually pushed out of the squad?
turbojetfireV8
25-02-2020, 09:49 PM
What HAL would have him ?.
WU I was thinking (he's about half the age of most of their team...), or maybe even return over the Tasman, or maybe Gypos...
Re Ridenton , What HAL would have him ?. So overrated.
As for Johnny K, Bloke needs to lose the hairband, Get a haircut whatever it takes Spends way too much time worrying about adjusting this than the game. Ever since he let his hair grow and got the hairband his game has gone to shit.
He been pretty solid the last few weeks since he went to RCB actually
Was a total liability for most of the season but he has been finding some form in recent weeks
WU I was thinking (he's about half the age of most of their team...), or maybe even return over the Tasman, or maybe Gypos...
The Nix ?. Only if they in need of a orange peeler.
turbojetfireV8
25-02-2020, 10:03 PM
He is arriving today I heard but yeah depends on fitness and visa etc
Presser on Jets site:
https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/video/presser-joe-ledley-february-2020
Tommyjet
26-02-2020, 05:15 AM
if Ridenton is a free agent now wouldn't it make it easier for him to sign for an A-League club if he wanted for the rest of this season?
Can only sign for another a-league club if he became a free agent in the January window.
Bremsstrahlung
26-02-2020, 06:58 AM
What happened to his Championship loan?
Trial*
StannyCFCJET
26-02-2020, 10:54 AM
Jets have removed the post about Ridenton
The Hacker
26-02-2020, 11:04 AM
Jets have removed the post about Ridenton
I’m guessing the comment section
StannyCFCJET
26-02-2020, 11:09 AM
I’m guessing the comment section
Even on their website?
The Dunster
26-02-2020, 11:56 AM
I'd say the Member has gone postal and is holding Lawrie hostage until Ridenton is reinstated.
I'd say the Member has gone postal and is holding Lawrie hostage until Ridenton is reinstated.
I ain't going down for that guy
Frodo
26-02-2020, 04:30 PM
I'd rather have Ridenton than half the other trash that McKinna has signed... Fitzgerald, Millar, Jair, Brown, the list goes on.
I'd rather have Ridenton than half the other trash that McKinna has signed... Fitzgerald, Millar, Jair, Brown, the list goes on.
From an ability perspective i would say some some of those players you listed as comparative.
Frodo
26-02-2020, 05:49 PM
From an ability perspective i would say some some of those players you listed as comparative.
Brown could maybe pass as well. But couldn't run, he made Kanta look like Kante. The rest are absolutely honking.
finzee
26-02-2020, 06:12 PM
Ridenton is gash. Move along
Frodo
26-02-2020, 06:40 PM
Ridenton is gash. Move along
Not disagreeing, but he's still better than some others who we have signed in the past and some that are still here. No point celebrating losing one of we keep signing the same thing over and over again. Plus, at least Ridenton didn't have the stench of Gosford on him.
Grimario
26-02-2020, 07:11 PM
Not disagreeing, but he's still better than some others who we have signed in the past and some that are still here. No point celebrating losing one of we keep signing the same thing over and over again. Plus, at least Ridenton didn't have the stench of Gosford on him.
Not from a taking up visa spot perspective.
StannyCFCJET
26-02-2020, 07:21 PM
Not from a taking up visa spot perspective.
bang on and should be the only argument. Does Frodo want Ridenton or Ledley, That is the only thing that should matter
Grimario
26-02-2020, 07:24 PM
bang on and should be the only argument. Does Frodo want Ridenton or Ledley, That is the only thing that should matter
Haven't seen Ledley play yet. He could be worse than Ridenton.
Frodo
26-02-2020, 07:32 PM
Not from a taking up visa spot perspective.
Yeah, 100% agree that he wasn't deserving of a Visa spot. But I think you understand the point I'm trying to make about Ridenton.
Haven't seen Ledley play yet. He could be worse than Ridenton.
Being the bloke couldn't get a club in UK with his CV and has barely played in the last 2 years at 33 years of age alarm bells really should be ringing that we ain't done a Jardel again
I will give the guy until 8pm Saturday night before an assessment can be made
Haven't seen Ledley play yet. He could be worse than Ridenton.
Where have you been, Bloke has already played 80 plus games for the shirt.
sorefootballer
26-02-2020, 09:54 PM
If he is a jardel then lucky its a short term deal... Hardly know the bloke and probably wont watch any of his highlights. I'll say he will be great next year after we sign him due to a few decent performances in the last few games of this season.
mic22
26-02-2020, 11:21 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Millar was a very good signing?
Yes he provides a lot more on the offensive side, and could be used better (he is now, it seems).
Let's not forget this is the A-league, after all. He could easily be picked by a bigger Aussie club.
I doubt a Rhyan Grant would be picked by any club outside Australia. Just picked a random player, totally unrelated to his horrific haircut.
Tommyjet
27-02-2020, 05:30 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Millar was a very good signing?
Yes he provides a lot more on the offensive side, and could be used better (he is now, it seems).
Let's not forget this is the A-league, after all. He could easily be picked by a bigger Aussie club.
I doubt a Rhyan Grant would be picked by any club outside Australia. Just picked a random player, totally unrelated to his horrific haircut.
I certainly respect your opinion. I personally get very frustrated with miller. The way I see it is when he stays wide and uses speed he is a solid a-league player. Alternatively, when he cuts inside and tries to beat players when dribble or makes passes that regularly don't hit one of our players, he looks state league level.
The main thing to consider here is that merrick wanted us playing narrow and therefore limiting our play to suit Miller's strengths whereas Robinson has us using The full pitch so hopefully we'll see a better miller from now on
Jardelsimage
27-02-2020, 06:00 AM
Being the bloke couldn't get a club in UK with his CV and has barely played in the last 2 years at 33 years of age alarm bells really should be ringing that we ain't done a Jardel again
I will give the guy until 8pm Saturday night before an assessment can be made
please leave the Messiah out of this, it wasn't his fault he was way past his best when the Jets went shopping....
StannyCFCJET
27-02-2020, 09:14 AM
I certainly respect your opinion. I personally get very frustrated with miller. The way I see it is when he stays wide and uses speed he is a solid a-league player. Alternatively, when he cuts inside and tries to beat players when dribble or makes passes that regularly don't hit one of our players, he looks state league level.
The main thing to consider here is that merrick wanted us playing narrow and therefore limiting our play to suit Miller's strengths whereas Robinson has us using The full pitch so hopefully we'll see a better miller from now on
Because he doesnt really have a left foot
The Dunster
27-02-2020, 09:14 AM
I didn't realise how long it's been since Ledley has played regular football. Hopefully he turns up 40 kg overweight so the Foz can get back to doing what it does best.
Am I the only one who thinks Millar was a very good signing?
Yes he provides a lot more on the offensive side, and could be used better (he is now, it seems).
Let's not forget this is the A-league, after all. He could easily be picked by a bigger Aussie club.
I doubt a Rhyan Grant would be picked by any club outside Australia. Just picked a random player, totally unrelated to his horrific haircut.
GYPO Miller is actually the victim of being poorly coached
I not just talking about @Jets I talking about from 14 years of age to now
With his speed and fitness the guy has the building blocks for a professional career in Europe with a couple of years in the HAL under his belt before a transfer O/S at 21
But no we have a bloke who defensively is State League Level and a bloke whose decision making is disgraceful in attack and at 23 is still a couple of years of solid work from being ready for a tilt at Europe
Just shows how piss poor we are at developing players thanks to our poor coaching levels in Oz
I didn't realise how long it's been since Ledley has played regular football. Hopefully he turns up 40 kg overweight so the Foz can get back to doing what it does best.
It is the Jets
Just assume all signings are either
1 recently injured
2 chronically injured
3 not good enough at their last club
4 not good enough for us
You cover 95% of signings under these circumstances
GYPO Miller is actually the victim of being poorly coached
I not just talking about @Jets I talking about from 14 years of age to now
With his speed and fitness the guy has the building blocks for a professional career in Europe with a couple of years in the HAL under his belt before a transfer O/S at 21
But no we have a bloke who defensively is State League Level and a bloke whose decision making is disgraceful in attack and at 23 is still a couple of years of solid work from being ready for a tilt at Europe
Just shows how piss poor we are at developing players thanks to our poor coaching levels in Oz
This x 1000
But nothing will change til people stop talking up the HAL. The league is sub standard on a monumental scale but those who make a living from it don't want to address it or see improvement for fear of being left behind.
The Dunster
27-02-2020, 11:23 AM
This x 1000
But nothing will change til people stop talking up the HAL. The league is sub standard on a monumental scale but those who make a living from it don't want to address it or see improvement for fear of being left behind.
The same applies to junior development in Australia which is unaffordable for too many and a nice money spinner for a handful.
The same applies to junior development in Australia which is unaffordable for too many and a nice money spinner for a handful.
The A League is now full of those types D. The ones who can't play for shit can't complete a 5 yard pass but are at this level because they had the financial resources to get there through overpriced pathways.
StannyCFCJET
27-02-2020, 07:27 PM
Ridenton spotted at training today so what the **** is actually going on cause as long as he is here Ledley cant play I'd assume
Frodo
27-02-2020, 07:35 PM
Ridenton spotted at training today so what the **** is actually going on cause as long as he is here Ledley cant play I'd assume
Ridenton will be waiting for the 5 visa thing to go through at season's end.
Otherwise he's training with us until he has a deal next season, since we dropped him mid season without a window to sign elsewhere.
StannyCFCJET
27-02-2020, 07:37 PM
Ridenton will be waiting for the 5 visa thing to go through at season's end.
Otherwise he's training with us until he has a deal next season, since we dropped him mid season without a window to sign elsewhere.
But then it makes to sense as to why the news regarding his release is no longer on the clubs website
Ridenton spotted at training today so what the **** is actually going on cause as long as he is here Ledley cant play I'd assume
The club is run by a Gypo yet you think everything is straight forward and crystal clear
FMD
Gotta give kudos to Ridenton, I don't rate him one bit as footballer, Can't complete a 5 yard pass to a player in the same shirt and piss weak on the ball but the bloke has just been told he no longer required however he sees the bigger picture by not burning any bridges continue to train in a team environment and wait and see whats in store for him next.
I would imagine he would have been paid up and free to move on both from a personal and professional perspective. Probs a difficult thing for him to hang around but says a bit about him and the off field qualities any potential club would be looking for in a player. Fair play to him IMO.
Grimario
28-02-2020, 07:32 AM
How do visa shenanigans work for Kiwis? He isn't working for the Jets anymore, so is he just here holidaying?
How do visa shenanigans work for Kiwis? He isn't working for the Jets anymore, so is he just here holidaying?
He wouldn't have any problem being here
Oz and NZ pretty much have open borders with each other
If you want you can get a job there pretty easily
Well you should be the brightest **** in the entire country
turbojetfireV8
01-03-2020, 08:11 PM
NBN game wrap up
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsbeatperth010320.mp4
turbojetfireV8
02-03-2020, 09:11 PM
NBN photo gallery
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2020/03/02/photo-gallery-jets-v-glory/
sorefootballer
02-03-2020, 10:33 PM
Ok, so i want to ask you all.....and please everyone who reads the foz please get involved. Dimi Petratos, now he is good don't get me wrong. But the level he is playing is by no means anywhere near his capability, 1. Do we think needs a new club or 2. Will Robinson (see what i did there) be able to make him a championship winning player again?
Have said for weeks in this household it is time for him to be moved on at seasons end.
Bremsstrahlung
03-03-2020, 05:28 AM
Bloke has talent. Just needs to have somebody drilling him to play simple. For every shot solo dribble or shot/cross off target, you need to make 10 passes.
Just looks unmotivated and his spot has never been in jeopardy. Needs to play as a part of our team, not everyone playing in Dimi’s team. Just looks like he thinks he’s free to do as he pleases and treats it like his training.
Frodo
03-03-2020, 06:27 AM
Dimi isn't a 10 either, he's a winger or inside forward. Wessi or Thurgate are CAMs and you can see how different Dimi plays to those two.
The Dunster
03-03-2020, 08:39 AM
The last thing I'd do with Dimi is change the way he plays. As for people suggesting a lack of effort on his part I strongly disagree - he's one of the hardest working players we have.
This is the Jets moving on good players needlessly without replacing them seems like something we would do
As for moving him on I doubt we can replace him with similar quality
This is the Jets moving on good players needlessly without replacing them seems like something we would do
As for moving him on I doubt we can replace him with similar quality
Of course we can find similar or better quality, The real question would be is management motivated enough to stump up the moolah.
Frodo
03-03-2020, 12:26 PM
Of course we can find similar or better quality, The real question would be is management motivated enough to stump up the moolah.
Well run clubs could find the same or better. We are not a well run club.
Alton
03-03-2020, 12:37 PM
Ok, so i want to ask you all.....and please everyone who reads the foz please get involved. Dimi Petratos, now he is good don't get me wrong. But the level he is playing is by no means anywhere near his capability, 1. Do we think needs a new club or 2. Will Robinson (see what i did there) be able to make him a championship winning player again?
I believe Wessi will be the best thing for Dimi, he can make forward runs off Wessi, not worry about being the lone creator of an attacking play and get in more advanced positions to threaten the goal.
StannyCFCJET
04-03-2020, 06:26 PM
So based off past few weeks who drops out for Lesley?
Mark325
04-03-2020, 06:38 PM
So based off past few weeks who drops out for Lesley?
it'll be thurgate
mic22
04-03-2020, 10:21 PM
Wessi off the bench again?
Ledley starting?
I think Ibini will get more game time, possibly starting for Arroyo.
StannyCFCJET
04-03-2020, 10:38 PM
Wessi off the bench again?
Ledley starting?
I think Ibini will get more game time, possibly starting for Arroyo.
Yeah Arroyo isnt playing for the team atm, Too much selfish play IMO
turbojetfireV8
04-03-2020, 10:42 PM
Did Ibini really show enough to put him ahead of Arroyo yet? Apart from the fact he not that long ago failed a medical in Iran (which may have been a Godsend considering the problems over there at the moment), I think he needs to show he is better than Arroyo in more than one cameo, it might be a good contest for the pair of them to step it up a notch, particularly when the likes of Wes is out there (I seem to recall the pre-season, Arroyo was looking good with the service he was being given, we lost that when we lost Wes for so long)
Couscous
04-03-2020, 11:26 PM
I din't want Ibini.
StannyCFCJET
04-03-2020, 11:45 PM
I din't want Ibini.
Did you rather we keep playing Hoff and Fitzy?
Did you rather we keep playing Hoff and Fitzy?
Huh. Is Ibini for Fitzy or Hoff or Arroyo ?.
Hunter403
05-03-2020, 07:37 AM
Ibini is not fit. He was spent. Arroyo still a better option for now.
The Dunster
05-03-2020, 08:55 AM
I'd play Kosta before Ibini on current form.
I don't think Ibini is anywhere near the player he used to be - and I have serious doubts we will ever see his old form return.
I can't believe anyone is even questioning having Arroyo on the pitch??
He'd be one of the first blokes you would pick..
Jardelsimage
05-03-2020, 09:25 AM
I can't believe anyone is even questioning having Arroyo on the pitch??
He'd be one of the first blokes you would pick..
100% agree on that.
Tommyjet
05-03-2020, 10:11 AM
I can't believe anyone is even questioning having Arroyo on the pitch??
He'd be one of the first blokes you would pick..
Does a lot of work that goes unnoticed by those that don't quite understand the game. He was a bit off his game last start but generally he is a great foil for dimi and odonavan
I can't believe anyone is even questioning having Arroyo on the pitch??
He'd be one of the first blokes you would pick..:deadhorse:
What is even sadder is they are advocating replacing him with a Gypo
FMD:bs:
I can't believe anyone is even questioning having Arroyo on the pitch??
He'd be one of the first blokes you would pick..
This x 1000
StannyCFCJET
05-03-2020, 11:14 AM
Arroyo is class but he needs to up him teamwork efforts. There is a reason he is the first attacker being subbed
BP Super Dynamos
05-03-2020, 11:22 AM
Like someone else said previously, Wes n Arroyo looked dangerous preseason. Get the 2 of them playing decent minutes together, add in less pressure on Dimi n Uga, hopefully we'll see Abdiel flourish
The Dunster
05-03-2020, 12:17 PM
Arroyo is class but he needs to up him teamwork efforts. There is a reason he is the first attacker being subbed
He's constantly dragging opposition defenders out of position for his team. His work rate is massive.
he's being subbed because he runs himself into the ground not because of any teamwork issues.
Jeterpool
05-03-2020, 12:20 PM
He's constantly dragging opposition defenders out of position for his team. His work rate is massive.
he's being subbed because he runs himself into the ground not because of any teamwork issues.
THat's what I am seeing too
lil_masi
05-03-2020, 12:29 PM
I've rated Arroyo highly this season. Yes he does alot of work but up until Roy came he was so isolated and the passes just never came to him!!
That Victory game I think there was more passes to him than I've seen the whole season!!
StannyCFCJET
05-03-2020, 12:41 PM
He's constantly dragging opposition defenders out of position for his team. His work rate is massive.
he's being subbed because he runs himself into the ground not because of any teamwork issues.
Too often he is trying to either beat a player or take a shot when someone is free in a better spot. Im also sick of the amount of whining he is doing every time he is slightly bumped into.
StannyCFCJET
05-03-2020, 12:42 PM
When Ibini is fit he will take Arroyos spot 100%
The Dunster
05-03-2020, 12:53 PM
Too often he is trying to either beat a player or take a shot when someone is free in a better spot. Im also sick of the amount of whining he is doing every time he is slightly bumped into.
https://i0.wp.com/www.oxygen.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/New-Chelsea-Football-Kit-2016.jpg?resize=750%2C400
When Ibini is fit he will take Arroyos spot 100%
The one and only time that Ibini should take his spot, is when Arroyo's loan is over and he's on his way back to Panama..
Frodo
05-03-2020, 12:57 PM
When Ibini is fit he will take Arroyos spot 100%
Oh Stanny, never change. The member could learn a thing or two from your trolling.
StannyCFCJET
05-03-2020, 12:57 PM
The one and only time that Ibini should take his spot, is when Arroyo's loan is over and he's on his way back to Panama..
It'll happen I believe, But I trust whatever call Carl makes
Frodo
05-03-2020, 01:13 PM
The one and only time that Ibini should take his spot, is when Arroyo's loan is over and he's on his way back to Panama..
Yeah, but hopefully Ibini is on his way to Macarthur at the same time. I'd be able to handle losing Arroyo if we also got rid of Ibini at the same time.
Oh Stanny, never change. The member could learn a thing or two from your trolling.
That would require me dropping down a pile of levels to meet him on equal terms though
Too often he is trying to either beat a player or take a shot when someone is free in a better spot. Im also sick of the amount of whining he is doing every time he is slightly bumped into.
You could also apply this to Dimi most weekends. Dimi ignored a great run from Arroyo on the weekend in the first half.
StannyCFCJET
05-03-2020, 06:53 PM
You could also apply this to Dimi most weekends. Dimi ignored a great run from Arroyo on the weekend in the first half.
I have been since last season
My2BobsWorth
06-03-2020, 06:29 PM
https://i0.wp.com/www.oxygen.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/New-Chelsea-Football-Kit-2016.jpg?resize=750%2C400
What exactly are you saying by this post
Frodo
06-03-2020, 06:50 PM
What exactly are you saying by this post
I'm guessing it's a Coronavirus thing. See the face mask?
turbojetfireV8
06-03-2020, 08:43 PM
thought it was a Trump supporter...
thought it was a Trump supporter...
Might want to educate yourself on that a bit more on who the white cloaks align with politically
turbojetfireV8
07-03-2020, 11:18 AM
Might want to educate yourself on that a bit more on who the white cloaks align with politically
seeing as his own father was a KKK member I think it's safe to say they are his boys Membah, you been reading too much conspiracy trashtalk on facey son...
Frodo
07-03-2020, 11:19 AM
Might want to educate yourself on that a bit more on who the white cloaks align with politically
A) take it to the right thread.
B) the Klan is as far right as you can get nowadays. They are your people plain and simple. If you don't like it, change your attitude.
seeing as his own father was a KKK member I think it's safe to say they are his boys Membah, you been reading too much conspiracy trashtalk on facey son...
It was started in the South by the Democratic Party types to attack the African American people in that area
So please stick to facts
A) take it to the right thread.
B) the Klan is as far right as you can get nowadays. They are your people plain and simple. If you don't like it, change your attitude.
He brought the issue here with his false claim and I am just correcting his false history
lil_masi
10-03-2020, 08:58 AM
Bira close to signing with SW Sydney :(
Frodo
10-03-2020, 10:12 AM
Bira close to signing with SW Sydney :(
Why the sad face emoji? There was debate whether or not he was better than BK when he was here. If that question is even remotely close enough to argue, then you have issues.
Jeterpool
10-03-2020, 10:22 AM
Jimmy Gardiner is reporting we are in advance negotiations to re-sign Italiano. No length of contract mentioned.
Bira close to signing with SW Sydney :(
I'm not fazed by it...
Jeterpool
10-03-2020, 10:27 AM
I'm not fazed by it...
https://media.giphy.com/media/ytTYwIlbD1FBu/giphy.gif
Why the sad face emoji? There was debate whether or not he was better than BK when he was here. If that question is even remotely close enough to argue, then you have issues.
:rof::oops:
Mark325
10-03-2020, 12:22 PM
I've really never watched the youth proper, but is Noah James good enough of a keeper to sit on the bench for us and even start over Italiano or would we be best looking elsewhere and getting another guy
I've really never watched the youth proper, but is Noah James good enough of a keeper to sit on the bench for us and even start over Italiano or would we be best looking elsewhere and getting another guy
Of course he is good enough to sit on the bench
With the rules the way they are with keepers you would be better off sinking your money into your no 1 and having a good player on the cheap as your no 2
If anything happens to your no2 the Yoof guy can hold the fort for a game if required and if it a longer absence the club can always go hot up a Matt Nash or Ivan Nacevski to come in short term
James is more than capable shot stopper and distribution wise
He really struggles with crosses so much so in the NPL every opponent puts inswinger corners in and crowds the **** out of the 6 yard box and mayhem ensues
turbojetfireV8
12-03-2020, 10:32 PM
NBN (first story in a fortnight just about)
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstopor120320.mp4
Jeterpool
13-03-2020, 08:30 AM
NBN (first story in a fortnight just about)
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstopor120320.mp4
why would there be a story when there's the foooooooooooootie to hype up.
Also, saw another announcement yesterday that the club and Ridenton had decided to part ways..
Hadn't that allegedly happened weeks ago??
StannyCFCJET
13-03-2020, 09:05 AM
Also, saw another announcement yesterday that the club and Ridenton had decided to part ways..
Hadn't that allegedly happened weeks ago??
Club apologised for announcing it before it was finalised
Club apologised for announcing it before it was finalised
Ahhhh ok..
Cheers mate..
turbojetfireV8
17-03-2020, 09:39 PM
NBN last night
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfolo160320.mp4
Alton
20-03-2020, 01:01 PM
Arzani heading home and up for grabs from June
Jeterpool
20-03-2020, 01:42 PM
Arzani heading home and up for grabs from June
Source? Believe you, but wanted to read the article
StannyCFCJET
20-03-2020, 01:46 PM
Source? Believe you, but wanted to read the article
Google Azarni, Few football websites reporting it, But not sure about the up for grabs from June
The Dunster
20-03-2020, 01:48 PM
Source? Believe you, but wanted to read the article
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5403124/celtic-fc-news-arzani-rogic/
https://the4thofficial.net/2020/03/this-on-loan-winger-at-celtic-might-have-made-his-last-appearance-should-lennon-sign-him-again/
Frodo
20-03-2020, 03:49 PM
Should I save all banter relating to this for the appropriate thread? Or can I lol in here as well?
turbojetfireV8
21-03-2020, 10:38 PM
NBN on loss
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsroar210320.mp4
Mark325
23-03-2020, 01:00 PM
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/sheppard-set-for-jets-departure
turbojetfireV8
24-03-2020, 10:09 PM
NBN on season suspension
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsfuture240320.mp4
turbojetfireV8
26-03-2020, 10:38 PM
NBN tonight, Jets players lent equipment by gym to keep fit
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsbikes260320.mp4
The Hacker
28-03-2020, 03:40 PM
A Jets player tested positive and they played Monday. This isn’t ideal for the club of FFA
A Jets player tested positive and they played Monday. This isn’t ideal for the club of FFA
Should be able to bankrupt the entire league out of this
If we get lucky we might cripple Foxtel as well for their insistence on playing for ratings
Couscous
28-03-2020, 10:01 PM
Just a friendly remember that it is against NSW health records law (and possibly Commonwealth privacy law) to publicly identify an individual's personal health conditions without their consent.
Having said that, which player?
The Hacker
28-03-2020, 10:47 PM
A player that travelled overseas and played in the last 2 games. So that narrows the options
A player that travelled overseas and played in the last 2 games. So that narrows the options
I doubt they be allowed to travel
I can't imagine any one with a known condition of Corona be allowed on a commercial airline right now
Being that Aussies can't travel right now You can bet it is a foreign player
turbojetfireV8
29-03-2020, 02:46 PM
Seems Burns and Ledley have already returned to Europe so don't fit the remit, I'd bet on it being local transmission and possibly to do with air travel they had to undertake to get to QLD (passing through two major internal airports, surrounded by returning and overseas travellers who were catching connecting flights and spreading their COVID around as they went, Roar didn't invite them to meet up with Tom Hanks did they?)
Seems Burns and Ledley have already returned to Europe so don't fit the remit, I'd bet on it being local transmission and possibly to do with air travel they had to undertake to get to QLD (passing through two major internal airports, surrounded by returning and overseas travellers who were catching connecting flights and spreading their COVID around as they went, Roar didn't invite them to meet up with Tom Hanks did they?)
Roy
Arroyo
Wessi
That about all that are left
StannyCFCJET
29-03-2020, 03:30 PM
Roy
Arroyo
Wessi
That about all that are left
My moneys on Wessi, Roy has been here a while, Doubt he would go overseas and Does Arroyo have a family?
baldrick
29-03-2020, 06:20 PM
Roy
Arroyo
Wessi
That about all that are left
Panama’s borders are closed so Arroyo is staying here.
Source: one of the local radio stations, can’t remember which one
The Dunster
29-03-2020, 06:24 PM
We should be more concerned that the player makes a speedy recovery rather than act like a group of 14 year old girls gossiping about who it may or may not be.
Bremsstrahlung
29-03-2020, 06:26 PM
Roy
Arroyo
Wessi
That about all that are left
Do you just read the first few words of a reply?
Roy, wessi, arroyo and the rest of our squad minus Ledley and burns are left as candidates.
Don’t have to have the Travelled overseas to contract it.
Jeterpool
29-03-2020, 08:39 PM
We should be more concerned that the player makes a speedy recovery rather than act like a group of 14 year old girls gossiping about who it may or may not be.
This.
Why do we need to know who it is? Answer - we don't!
Do you just read the first few words of a reply?
Roy, wessi, arroyo and the rest of our squad minus Ledley and burns are left as candidates.
Don’t have to have the Travelled overseas to contract it.
And being that the test was done so the person can leave the country....That rules all the Australians in the squad out of the equation
You know why??
None of us can leave the country at the moment
All Skips are subject to a travel ban thanks to Corona
Foreigners are not subject to this and can leave the country
Plenty of articles stating the test was done for someone wanting to leave the country
Being the season only got wrapped up Tuesday morning and Australia was on DO NOT TRAVEL code 4 at that point in time the chances of an Aussie wanting to get out of the country are a trillion to one
This.
Why do we need to know who it is? Answer - we don't!
As an easy eg I saw someone comment on facebook that they were near Dimi at shops or similar last week. For the few people that have dealt with any of the players in this last 2-3 weeks, it at least helps them know if they came into contact with them or not. I'm sure there are heaps of people that have served the players at shops etc, who is to know if they did or didn't contact the person with the virus?
Lawrie's direct quote is the player was involved in the Melbourne City game but made no mention of the Roar game. I can't figure out why he would not mention the Roar game, unless the guy actually didn't play in the game.
I therefore conclude it is Glen Moss, and he was attempting to fly back to NZ.
Whoever it is, I hope they do not get too badly ill from it and have not spread it.
What I am disturbed about the most is all people involved in both the City and Roar games aren't forced to isolate already, this makes no sense to me and I'm surprised how chill the health services are being about this. Just lock us down already.
mic22
30-03-2020, 11:19 AM
As an easy eg I saw someone comment on facebook that they were near Dimi at shops or similar last week. For the few people that have dealt with any of the players in this last 2-3 weeks, it at least helps them know if they came into contact with them or not. I'm sure there are heaps of people that have served the players at shops etc, who is to know if they did or didn't contact the person with the virus?
Lawrie's direct quote is the player was involved in the Melbourne City game but made no mention of the Roar game. I can't figure out why he would not mention the Roar game, unless the guy actually didn't play in the game.
I therefore conclude it is Glen Moss, and he was attempting to fly back to NZ.
Whoever it is, I hope they do not get too badly ill from it and have not spread it.
What I am disturbed about the most is all people involved in both the City and Roar games aren't forced to isolate already, this makes no sense to me and I'm surprised how chill the health services are being about this. Just lock us down already.
Agree.
Privacy is important, but public health is more important.
There can't be overreaction to this.
Being positive to COVID-19 is not a stigma, but knowing who is positive can help preventing the spread -> saving lives.
Names of positive players have been made public in Europe and other parts of the world, and no one complained.
Agree.
Privacy is important, but public health is more important.
There can't be overreaction to this.
Being positive to COVID-19 is not a stigma, but knowing who is positive can help preventing the spread -> saving lives.
Names of positive players have been made public in Europe and other parts of the world, and no one complained.
None of us can turn sideways without being asked "HAVE YOU COME INTO CONTACT WITH A CASE" and none of us can actually answer this accurately. Privacy is out the window in this current climate.
riverboy
30-03-2020, 12:46 PM
It's very weird that we know who the Chelsea player who got coronavirus was but we don't know who the Newcastle Jets player is? We know that Tom hanks and Boris Johnson have it, but we don't know who the jets player is.
It's a virus, they haven't murdered anyone so I don't know why they haven't been mentioned.
belchardo
30-03-2020, 12:53 PM
But how do we know all that? Boris and tom told us. Did the chelsea player or the club reveal it? That's the difference in my books.
As an easy eg I saw someone comment on facebook that they were near Dimi at shops or similar last week. For the few people that have dealt with any of the players in this last 2-3 weeks, it at least helps them know if they came into contact with them or not. I'm sure there are heaps of people that have served the players at shops etc, who is to know if they did or didn't contact the person with the virus?
Lawrie's direct quote is the player was involved in the Melbourne City game but made no mention of the Roar game. I can't figure out why he would not mention the Roar game, unless the guy actually didn't play in the game.
I therefore conclude it is Glen Moss, and he was attempting to fly back to NZ.
Whoever it is, I hope they do not get too badly ill from it and have not spread it.
What I am disturbed about the most is all people involved in both the City and Roar games aren't forced to isolate already, this makes no sense to me and I'm surprised how chill the health services are being about this. Just lock us down already.
What is the most disturbing part about this is how cheaply you are happy to let the authorities take your civil liberties
You are begging them to take them
StannyCFCJET
30-03-2020, 01:01 PM
But how do we know all that? Boris and tom told us. Did the chelsea player or the club reveal it? That's the difference in my books.
Pretty sure the club announced it first
If you Google "Newcastle Jets Coronavirus" and scroll down a few results, SMH mentions a player in the Google link (but the actual article still says unnamed player)
Couscous
30-03-2020, 11:04 PM
If you Google "Newcastle Jets Coronavirus" and scroll down a few results, SMH mentions a player in the Google link (but the actual article still says unnamed player)
Wow, that's ... amateurish. And unlawful.
What is the most disturbing part about this is how cheaply you are happy to let the authorities take your civil liberties
You are begging them to take them
But to get this right, everyone asking if I've been in contact with a case of it is cool to poke and prod me for that information, right?
But to get this right, everyone asking if I've been in contact with a case of it is cool to poke and prod me for that information, right?
Well I wouldn't ask you for that info because I quite frankly think we are being conned here
If this thing was a legit threat they be mass testing everyone
But they ain't
la bazzle
31-03-2020, 02:00 PM
What I am disturbed about the most is all people involved in both the City and Roar games aren't forced to isolate already, this makes no sense to me and I'm surprised how chill the health services are being about this. Just lock us down already.
Didn't they say the player wasn't showing any symptoms? If that's the case and given the time frames, none of those players in the other teams would be considered close contacts (by definition of tracking/isolating etc).
turbojetfireV8
03-04-2020, 06:42 PM
More sponsor news than team news, but anyway:
APRIL 3 2020 - 6:00PM
A-League : Inspirations Paint to continue support for Jets
James gardiner
Newcastle Jets
INSPIRATIONS Paint are the Newcastle Jets' longest-running front-of-shirt sponsor and the national company have vowed to stick with the A-League club during to VOVID-19 crisis.
Inspirations Paint has appeared on the front of the Jets' away strip, in a deal believed to be worth six-figures a year, for the past five seasons. They have another year to run on the current three-year arrangement and will be honouring that contract.
"Inspirations Paint is completely understanding that the season had to be cut short in the interests of health," head of marketting Joel Goodsir said. "We were happy to have most of the season behind us.
"We are really happy with out relationship with the Jets. I had a phone call from [Jets CEO] Lawrie McKinna over a week ago when all this was happening to keep us up to date."
The A-League is postponed until at least April 22. But the chances of the competition resuming in the next two months appear remote.
The Jets this week stood down players and staff, amid growing uncertainty over the broadcast rights deal. Foxtel were due to pay the latest quarterly installment to Football Federation Australia this week. That money, about $12 million, is distributed to the clubs and is used to pay player and staff wages,
The Jets this week also McDonalds as a major partner.
However, in welcomed news to the club, Inspirations Paint, which has a network of 135 stores, are looking to extend their relationship.
"We sponsor the Jets out of the national marketing fund, which all stores contribute towards," Goodsir said. "At this stage, I certainly see it continuing. It could change it's shape and form, but there is no reason not to continue the relationship.
"All the marketing theories show that longer sport sponsorships work better. It takes a lot of repetition for people to join the dots because they are focused on the game. Perth Glory had QBE as their major sponsor for 10 years. You think back to the NRL teams you followed as a kid and you can normally remember which company was on the front of the jerseys - Pirtek on Paramatta jumpers.
"We get a lot of good support from Hunter residents and up the coast at our stores as high as Grafton. The fans are so appreciative. They literally get on twitter and thank us for our support."
turbojetfireV8
04-04-2020, 12:19 PM
Boogs on current situation:
APRIL 4 2020 - 10:00AM
A-League: Jets skipper calls for unity to conquer crisis
James Gardiner
JETS captain Nigel Boogaard has urged the game's decision makers to involve all stakeholders, including players, when they map out the future of the sport in Australia.
But for now, Boogaard is focused on maintaining his fitness levels in the hope that the A-League resumes in the next two months.
The national league is in the balance after the competition was postponed 12 days ago due to the worsening COVID-19 pandemic. The situation will be reviewed on April 22.
The league is underpinned by a $56 million broadcast deal with Foxtel. Without any games to televise, the pay TV company are yet to cough up the latest $12 million quarterly installment, which is carved and distributed to the clubs to cover wages.
The longer the league is held up, the greater the financial pressure on clubs.
The Jets were among seven clubs this week to stand down players and staff without pay.
"We knew once a few clubs headed in that direction it was inevitable," Boogaard said. "The club have kept us as informed as much as they could throughout the process. There is so much up in the air. We just have to sit and wait and see how everything pans out.
"As players we have to do the right thing by the game. For us, the right thing is to keep training and make sure if we go back and play, that we are ready to do so. Ultimately, that is what we are here to do."
Boogaard, like all of his teammates, has set up a home gym and is training in the back yard.
"As a playing group, we are trying to stay fit," Boogaard said. "The club has done the right thing and given us training programs to maintain fitness. The back deck is covered with kids' toys, there is spin bike in the corner with some kettle bells and a bit of a made up gym."
As well as being stood down, the Jets had one of their squad test positive to COVID-19. The player, who is in self isolation, was asymptomatic.
No other players have shown symptoms yet but Boogaard said they were aware of their responsibilities to the community and were following strict protocols.
The Professional Footballers Australia players union have threatened legal action against the owners if the players are not reinstated.
Football Federation Australia boss James Johnson this week called for unity and the end of self interest to get through the crisis.
Boogaard, who is a member of the PFA executive, echoed that sentiment.
"With any decisions involving the league, I think the stakeholders should come together to work towards a solution," Boogaard said. "That would only benefit everyone. There is lot up in the air for the next two months. But what does the game look like for the next three years, five years, 10 years. That is the uncertainty. All stakeholders need to come together and discuss what it is going to look like and where things need to change.
"Whether people are willing to compromise and go from there. The PFA should be at the table. Ideally we would be in a position to ride this pandemic out but unfortunately we are in a position that we are."
Boogaard is one of eight Jets off contract and among 120 players with an uncertain future after May 31, when arrangements currently end.
"I am waiting to see what happens in the next two months," he said. "There is obviously a big decision to make on April 22 to see what happens with the league moving forward. I suppose there is a lot of things to play out beyond that. If they decide to push the league back and it is still the same competition, there will be 120 players off contract. How do they fit into that? There are too many permutations to think beyond these next few weeks. Then we reassess and go from there."
turbojetfireV8
05-04-2020, 12:53 AM
NBN talking to Burns back in N Ire
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/bobbyburns020420.mp4
turbojetfireV8
06-04-2020, 10:34 AM
Not going to just share the link to FTBL as it made me answer an ad sponsor's survey before I could even read the article, which pissed me right off...
Burns: Playing games behind closed doors was awful
BURNS: PLAYING GAMES BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WAS AWFUL
By John Davidson Apr 5 2020 10:38PM
Bobby Burns says playing games behind closed doors was "awful" and the rushed ending of the A-League season "didn't make sense".
Burns has departed the Newcastle Jets and returned to Europe after the season was shutdown because of the Coronavirus.
The Irishman played 16 matches for the Jets on loan from Hearts.
Burns admits playing games behind closed doors was the "worst experience" of his career.
"Initially, I thought we would get the league finished," he told The Irish News.
"We played games behind closed doors but it was awful. It was the worst football experience I’ve had. It’s funny because I played in school games for St Malachy’s when there was nobody watching…
"It was maybe because we were playing games in these huge stadiums. It also looked terrible because we were the only league playing matches at that stage whereas everywhere else had stopped.
"The reason the league was shut down was because there were border restrictions from state to state. So you can’t travel from Brisbane to, say, Sydney, so that causes huge problems.
"The week before it was called off we flew from Sydney to Adelaide, came back and flew to the Gold Coast to play Brisbane. We were in five airports in a week during a global pandemic. It didn’t make sense."
But Burns loved his time in Australia, despite the abrupt ending.
“It was how quickly things stopped. We were training for a game on Monday and it was shut just like that and everybody was trying to get flights home on the Wednesday," the defender said.
"It was a very sad way to go because I loved my time in Australia. There were so many things I wanted to do. And I didn’t get the chance to say goodbye to a lot of people because you didn’t want to be in contact with them.
"I’ve a lot of friends from the Catholic Church near where I was living, but a lot of them are elderly and the last thing I wanted to do was be near them."
turbojetfireV8
07-04-2020, 02:25 PM
The Hoff
APRIL 7 2020 - 6:00AM
Newcastle Jets: Utility player, Jason Hoffman, on learning curve during Newcastle Jets' hiatus
JAMES GARDINER
Local Sport
JETS utility Jason Hoffman learnt early on that job security was a short-term prospect in football.
The events of the past fortnight have only strengthened that theory.
The Jets players and staff were stood down last Wednesday as the financial pain from the COVID-19 pandemic bit hard.
The Jets have registered for the government's Jobkeeper allowance for all employees, which will ease the financial burden by $750 a week.
The players are continuing to follow individual programs in the hope of playing the final four games.
On Monday, they did a pilates session together on the Zoom conferencing app.
"Scotty Thomas got us going with some pilates work and then we stayed on-line and had a chat to one another," Hoffman said.
While Hoffman signed a two-year extension and hopes to be back on the pitch as soon as possible, he is using the down time to think about his future.
The 31-year-old is studying a business degree, majoring in sports management, but is considering changing focus to education.
"The past few weeks have been a wake-up call," he said. "Job security has always been a short-term prospect as a footballer. When times get really tough there is no real security at all. If I can prepare myself for when I transition out of the game, hopefully on my own terms, I will be in a job that is secure and I can enjoy my lifestyle. My sister is a teacher, my mum was a teacher, my mother-in-law is a teacher. I have six weeks to make a decision and see if I can get some credit to switch across."
In the meantime, Hoffman is maintaining fitness and doing projects around the house.
"We have a program and a lot of it is position specific," Hoffman said. "I was training with Dimi [Petratos] at Ford Oval. Now that we have to train on our own, I have been heading to a local park. There is a brick wall there which means I can work on my passing. There is a lot of skill work, juggling the ball and things like that. We are also ticking the boxes on fitness. We want to make sure we are doing enough to maintain our fitness levels so that if we get the green light, we can be ready to go."
" While Hoffman signed a two-year extension and hopes to be back on the pitch as soon as possible, he is using the down time to think about his future.
The 31-year-old is studying a business degree, majoring in sports management, but is considering changing focus to education."
Is there a chance Hoff has been told by Robbo his chances of game time next season are next to nothing ?. From memory his extension was done about the same time as Kanta's a acouple of months before Robbo's appointment.
StannyCFCJET
07-04-2020, 05:47 PM
" While Hoffman signed a two-year extension and hopes to be back on the pitch as soon as possible, he is using the down time to think about his future.
The 31-year-old is studying a business degree, majoring in sports management, but is considering changing focus to education."
Is there a chance Hoff has been told by Robbo his chances of game time next season are next to nothing ?. From memory his extension was done about the same time as Kanta's a acouple of months before Robbo's appointment.
Hoff is a good enough squad player and decent enough cover at fullback. Makes no sense to get rid of him. Shouldn't be starting every week but thats not his fault
Hoff is a good enough squad player and decent enough cover at fullback. Makes no sense to get rid of him. Shouldn't be starting every week but thats not his fault
Bloke should be playing right back ahead of Gypo Miller every day of the week
Alton
08-04-2020, 01:05 PM
Hoff is the ideal number 12 - 23
evolution
15-04-2020, 09:21 AM
Some actual football news, article itself is a "subscriber only" but the headline tells you all you need to know:
A-League: Italiano rewarded with two-year extension at Jets
https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6722395/hes-a-keeper-italiano-rewarded-with-two-year-extension-at-jets/?cs=7580
turbojetfireV8
21-04-2020, 08:41 PM
Tomorrow's NMH:
Newcastle Jets: Nigel Boogaard says players want clarity around the competition's future and plans moving forward
Local News
Increasingly anxious and frustrated A-League players are demanding Australian football powerbrokers deliver clarity over the competition's future.
An FFA assessment of the A-League's status during the coronavirus pandemic is set to be finalised on Wednesday, though it's unclear when the assessment's recommendations will be made public.
The league was postponed indefinitely in late March and since that decision was made at least six of the 11 A-League clubs have stood down players and staff.
Host broadcaster Foxtel's commitment to the competition is also increasingly uncertain. One of those clubs to stand down players is Newcastle and as he and his teammates face an indefinite period without pay, Jets captain Nigel Boogaard said players have had enough of being kept in the dark.
The 33-year-old said those in charge need to come together and devise a plan for the short and long-term future of professional football in Australia.
"To let it drag on to this point is a little bit ridiculous to be honest with you," Boogaard said. "These are the powers that are going to dictate the future of the game moving forward.
"If the likes of FFA, club owners and everyone involved can't come together and, I suppose, be grown ups and sit at a table with each other and come to a decision about - not only the end of this season and what the next few months look like but the professional game in this country for the next few decades - it doesn't give you great confidence."
Boogaard is one of approximately 130 players whose contracts expire on May 31.
Any attempt to complete the 2019-20 season, which has only a handful of rounds remaining before finals, would need to work out what happens to those off-contract players. The veteran defender doesn't believe a point of no return has been reached for this season and said players are still hopeful of completing the campaign.
"As an overall playing group, everyone would like to see it out and if we're able to, that would be our preference but not knowing where everything lies, that's going to be hard," he said.
Adding to the uncertainty has been persistent speculation over Foxtel's plans.
turbojetfireV8
22-04-2020, 01:27 PM
Some actual football news, article itself is a "subscriber only" but the headline tells you all you need to know:
Forgot to post this:
https://video.nbnnews.com.au/lewisitaliano150420.mp4
turbojetfireV8
25-04-2020, 01:08 AM
Missed this one the other day:
APRIL 22 2020 - 7:30PM
Newcastle Jets import and Welsh international Joe Ledley respects A-League standard
James Gardiner
Newcastle Jets
FORMER English Premier League and Wales star Joe Ledley believes the A-League is a similar standard to Major League Soccer in the US and has hinted at extending his stay at the Newcastle Jets.
Ledley, 33, was midway through a short-term deal when the A-League was postponed on March 24 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
He has returned to his family home in the UK city of Cardiff to be with wife Ruby and children Layla, 9, Reeva, 4, and Hendricks, 2.
The midfielder has been following a training program in the hope that the A-League will resume and spoke glowingly of his time in Newcastle on BBC podcast, Eli James' Football Feast.
The football show features Ledley's former teammate Danny Gabbidon and fellow Welsh international Iwan Roberts.
The Jets are coached by another former Welsh international in Carl Robinson, who head hunted Ledley.
Asked how he found the A-League, Ledley said: "I didn't know anything about the league when I signed. The standard is a lot better than what I thought.
"There are some good players, especially in our team. With the players we have got, and with Carl coming in, he has completely changed it. We had lost one in six games at the end and could still push for a play-off position. It's nice and relaxed and we play good possession-based football, which I like."
Ledley has played 77 games for Wales, was one of their stars at the 2016 European Championships, spent four seasons in the Premier League for Crystal Palace and won titles with Scottish club Celtic. Although the A-League is a step down, Ledley rates it highly.
"I think the A-League is a bit disrespected," he said. "I think it is just as good as MLS. It is an entertaining league and always end-to-end football.
"When I went there, I knew we had Wes Hoolahan in our team. He is an unbelievable player. He has still got it and the fans love him. He has been unfortunate because he got injured just before the start of the season.
"When you start playing against other teams you see there are quite a lot of English players, some of them even from the Premier League and Championship and Scottish Premier League."
Ledley had been training with League Two club Newport County before joining the Jets. He was on the verge of signing with the south Wales outfit but opted to be part of Robinson's revolution in Australia.
"I had my squad number and everything was sorted," Ledley said of the Newport deal. "When Carl got the job at the Jets, he wanted me to sign for longer in Australia. I didn't want to go over there, not enjoy it and want to come home. I signed until the end of the season and have loved it.
"I felt bad on Newport because it seemed like I used them to train. But it wasn't like that at all. They were a great group of boys, good professionals, good manager. I just wanted to try something different.
"I have always wanted to play abroad ... to say I have tried a different place, a different culture."
turbojetfireV8
25-04-2020, 01:14 AM
On the postponement to hold off till June:
APRIL 23 2020 - 9:00PM
Newcastle Jets players facing at least another five weeks in limbo
ROBERT DILLON
Football
THE Newcastle Jets and their fellow A-League players remain in limbo despite a commitment from Football Federation Australia officials on Thursday to complete the 2019-20 season "as soon as possible".
Unlike the NRL, which is forging ahead with plans to resume full training operations on May 4 and games on May 28, the A-League has been unable to offer any substantial update about what its next step will be.
The competition was suspended because of the coronavirus pandemic on March 24, with only a handful of rounds remaining before the finals were scheduled to kick off. Seven clubs, including the Jets, have since stood down players and staff.
FFA chief executive James Johnson said in a statement on Thursday that "a number of criteria" would define when players would be cleared to resume normal training, but added: "It is difficult to see that process beginning before the end of May."
The FFA said it was in "ongoing dialogue with government health authorities" and would need restrictions relating to health and safety, state and federal borders, large gatherings and social distancing to be relaxed before players are allowed to train together.
"Our priority remains the health and safety of all players and staff and we will need to be satisfied that appropriate measures are in place to ensure this," Johnson said.
" .... football takes its responsibilities as a good corporate citizen very seriously, and remains committed to working in partnership with the government to slow the spread of COVID-19.
"At the same time, we want to play our part in supporting the social and mental wellbeing of the Australian football family and all sports-loving Australians.
"Ultimately, the coronavirus will have the final say on when we can get the season started again."
Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna said the NRL's ambitious plans were irrelevant to his code.
"Between now and the end of May, we should know how things are going," McKinna said.
"And obviously things are getting better every day.
"Everybody wants to come back and finish the season. All the clubs agreed on that, but it's still too early to be putting dates on it.
"Whatever the NRL is doing is up to them.
"All the best to them with what they're doing, but the A-League won't be driven by that.
"We'll be doing what's right for our game."
Exacerbating the dilemma the round-ball code is facing, Fox Sports has not paid a grant that was due last week and there is mounting speculation that the pay-TV provider is poised to walk away from on its $57-million-a-year deal broadcasting deal with FFA.
In addition, standard A-League player contracts expire on May 31, so as it stands a host of players will need to be re-signed if the competition is to resume.
In the case of the Jets, head coach Carl Robinson is with his family in Canada, assistant coach Kenny Miller has returned to Scotland, and overseas players Joe Ledley and Bobby Burns have returned to Wales and Northern Ireland respectively.
If the A-League season is to be completed, they may have to at least spend two weeks in quarantine before they are allowed to re-enter the country.
McKinna said working through the myriad logistics was "like putting a jigsaw together."
"When you've got the first couple of pieces in place, you can start building it," he said.
"But until you've got those pieces, you can't really get started. That's where we're at now."
Jets skipper Nigel Boogaard expressed his frustration earlier this week, saying it was "a little bit ridiculous, to be honest" that the uncertainty had dragged on for a month.
"If the likes of FFA, club owners and everyone involved can't come together and, I suppose, be grown-ups and sit at a table with each other and come to a decision about - not only the end of this season and what the next few months look like but the professional game in this country for the next few decades - it doesn't give you great confidence," Boogaard said.
McKinna said Newcastle's players and staff were "all up to speed with where things are at".
"From the club's point of view, I keep Boogs informed and he notifies the boys. But I can understand if they're a bit frustrated with the stuff that's happening at the top," he said.
turbojetfireV8
08-05-2020, 08:45 PM
At least we still have Arroyo till end of the season...
MAY 6 2020 - 7:30PM
A-League: Panamanian on board until Jets' flight ends after loan deal extended
James Gardiner
Newcastle Jets
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POWERHOUSE striker Abdiel Arroyo will play out the A-League season with the Newcastle Jets after Panamanian club Arabe Unido agreed to extend his loan by three months.
Arroyo's deal with Newcastle expires on May 31.
However, Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna said the international had been given the green light to continue in Newcastle once the A-League season resumes.
Football Federation Australia are working with players union, Professional Footballers Australia, and the government on a return date.
McKinna anticipates the Jets will be back training in July, with the competition to restart in August.
"We contacted Arroyo's agent requesting that the loan be extended and the club was happy for him to stay until the end of August," McKinna said. "There was interest in him from Korea, Japan and the MLS but Arroyo was happy to stay in Newcastle."
The Jets have five games remaining, which will be played behind closed doors most likely at a centralised hub over three weeks, plus potentially finals.
They are ninth on 24 points, but are only three points outside the top six.
Arroyo has scored two goals in 14 appearances for the Jets and was part of a new-look strike force under new coach Carl Robinson, which has netted seven goals in the past three games.
Unlike Bobby Burns, who returned home to Northern Ireland, Arroyo was forced to stay in Newcastle after Panama closed its borders.
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Midfielder Joe Ledley (Wales), coach Carl Robinson (Canada) and assistant coach Kenny Miller (Scotland) have also returned home.
Ledley and Burns may not return but McKinna was confident the coaching staff would be back on deck for the start of training.
"Carl and Kenny are starting to look into when they can return," McKinna said. "Their working visas are valid and it is a case of waiting for the border restrictions to loosen. We have seven weeks before we start training. In seven weeks the world could change. Look what has happened in the last seven weeks. If the curve continues to flatten, I reckon international borders will open for people who have work visas."
In the meantime, Robinson and Miller are working from afar.
"We are having a hook-up with the football staff on Tuesday," McKinna said. "Players have fitness and gym programs which they have been undertaking. They will need to change that now."
Plans to complete the season were confirmed after Foxtel paid its $12 million quarterly payment to the FFA last Friday.
That money is normally carved up and distributed to the clubs to pay wages.
The Jets were among seven clubs to stand players down a month ago. The Jets have registered for the Jobkeeper allowance and paid the players and staff $3000 each for the past month ($750 per week), which will be reimbursed by the government.
"The foreign players don't qualify for the Jobkeeper allowance, but we paid them anyway," McKinna said.
The PFA and FFA and working through a number of issues regarding health and safety protocols and a likley reduction in wages before the players take to the field.
Other issues include how much time teams will be given to train before the season resumes and how many day's break they will receive between games.
furns
09-05-2020, 06:15 PM
That certainly fills in a lot of info many supporters had about the current state of things and where all our internationals ended up
turbojetfireV8
12-05-2020, 09:12 PM
Jets appoint ex-NZ assistant
MAY 12 2020 - 8:00PM
A-League: Group training on hold as Jets bolster coaching staff with former New Zealand assistant
James Gardiner
Local Sport
FORMER New Zealand assistant coach Darren Bazeley will join the Jets but just when he and the other football staff will be able to work with the squad remains unclear, despite gatherings of up to 10 people being permitted in NSW from Friday.
Bazeley, a former fullback who represented England under-21s, played alongside Jets coach Carl Robinson at Wolverhampton Wanderers before finishing his professional career in the A-League at the New Zealand Knights.
He has spent the majority of the past 10 year coaching in New Zealand, where he took the national under-20 side to the World Cup, and was an assistant with the All Whites senior team before joining US Major Soccer League club Colorado Rapids in 2018.
The 47-year-old is back in New Zealand and will move to Newcastle as soon as COVID-19 border restrictions are lifted.
Craig Deans, who had assisted Robinson during his transition into the Jets job, will return to his role at the head of the club's academy.
"Darren has an understanding of the league, having played with the New Zealand Knights," Jets CEO Lawrie McKinna said. "He has coached in the New Zealand set up and also in the US. Prior to that he had a good playing career with Watford and Wolverhampton, where he formed a relationship with Carl."
Robinson told the Newcastle Herald this week that he wants to bring through young players and Bazeley has a strong record in youth development.
Jets players have been following individual training programs since the A-League was postponed on March 24.
The league is flagged to restart in August. Technically players can train in groups of up to 10 from Friday when NSW enters phase one of the COVID-safe framework.
However, McKinna said the Jets would continue to train as is for now.
"All A-League clubs have agreed to come back to training at the same time once the FFA and PFA (players union) have sorted out a return date," McKinna said. "A few of the boys have been training in pairs. If they were to get together it would be off their own back. The club won't start training until the league has given the go ahead."
McKinna is working with FFA to get the coaches back to Australia for the start of training.
"The understanding is that once the borders are opened, essential service people will be allowed in first and we will be putting in a request to have Carl and Kenny fast-tracked," McKinna said. "We make the request to FFA who go through the appropriate body."
The Jets have matches remaining against Wellington, Central Coast, Sydney FC and Western United. They are three points behind sixth-placed Western United, who have played two games less.
Robinson is planning a mini pre-season before the league restarts.
Conditioning coach Brice Johnson and physio Nathan Renwick are "dealing with the physical aspects".
"My biggest thing will be reaffirming what we worked on in the eight weeks I was there," he said.
"I also want them to be adaptable in relation to a different formation. I am going to bring in different type of players next season, and I want to have plan b and plan c. es, we are fighting for results and we still want to get to the play-offs ... it's also an opportunity for me to try different things with different people."
turbojetfireV8
12-05-2020, 09:14 PM
Robinson looking to youth to replace unavailable internationals
MAY 10 2020 - 8:00PM
A-League: Robinson to arm Jets with nation's young guns
James Gardiner
Newcastle Jets
COACH Carl Robinson wants to bring the best young Australian players to the Newcastle Jets for what he anticipates will be a very different looking A-League post COVID-19.
Robinson is "itching to get back on the training field" and is eagerly awaiting the lifting of Australian border restrictions so he can return from Vancouver, Canada, where he has spent the past month with wife Laura, 17-year-old daughter Lowri and son Milo, 11
The A-League, postponed on March 24, is expected to resume in August.
The Jets have four games remaining, which are likely to be played behind closed doors at a central hub, and are an outside chance of making the play-offs. Western United hold sixth spot on 27 points, three ahead of the Jets, but have played two less games.
Robinson, who along with assistant coach Kenny Miller faces 14 days in isolation on return to Australia, is preparing to be without imports Joe Ledley, Bobby Burns and Wes Hoolahan.
Ledley and Burns have returned to Wales and Northern Ireland respectively.
Hoolahan, whose wife Emma is pregnant, departs for Ireland this week.
"There are no guarantees that international players, one, will be allowed back in the country and, two, can actually get back based upon the league rules," Robinson said. "I have to prepare as though I won't have my international players.
"Arroyo is still in Australia which is good. It's tough because we are in a good place and on a good run of form. It also gives me a chance to have a look at the young ones."
Roy O'Donovan, who is awaiting Australian citizenship, is the only foreigner contracted beyond this season.
The absence of internationals may be a sign to the future.
Robinson, though focused on finishing in the top six, is also looking ahead to next season and the prospect of a cut to the $3.2 million salary cap and cost cutting across the league due to the financial impact from COVID-19.
"Based upon projection of what is going to happen next season, I have to find some talented young national team players within the 17-to-22 age group to add to the players we have already - Johnny Koutroumbis, Matty Millar, Connor O'Toole, Angus Thurgate, Makis and Kosta Petratos," he said.
"I have been spending a lot of time looking at young Australian players in Europe as well as at the other A-League clubs.
"I want the nucleus of players from Australia. In the worst-case scenario and the salary cap is cut, we are OK. If it is not the worst case scenario then we are in a really good position to strengthen with another key international player if we need one."
Robinson has been in constant contact with staff and will return to Newcastle as soon as possibe.
"The key thing for me was to get back with my family [in Canada] when it all started," he said. " It has been a tough few weeks. We are moving house so I have been packing boxes. I have watched all of our games again, I have watched half the A-League games. I have been doing analysis on teams I admire, Hoffenheim, Dortmund and teams like that.
"Now, I'm itching to get on the training field. I had a year out [from coaching] which was great and I needed it. Once I got back in, I'm hands on and with the boys all the time. I want to be back there. There was never any thought of me saying 'I can wait, I can wait'. I want to be back there as soon as possible. Kenny is the same. We saw the success we had in a short period of time. We want to reset, rebuild and bring more youngsters through."
Jets players have been following individual programs and Robinson plans to give them 10 days off once a starting date for team training has been confirmed.
"If the games are in August and the boys are going to start training in July, there is still six weeks between now and that point," he said. "After the season, there will probably be a month off and then another pre-season. Once it's confirmed, I will give them maybe 10 days total rest. I want them to do nothing before they come in and we start to build them up once we get some dates.
"I'm used to having five-week preseasons in Major League Soccer. I do all my pre-season with the ball."
The Jets have games against Wellington, Central Coast, Sydney and Western United remaining.
"I'll say to the boys, we have four fixtures left against good teams, go and enjoy yourself and play the way we want to play," he said. "There will be one team who surprises. We have put ourselves in a position where we could be that team. That will be our aim."
turbojetfireV8
12-05-2020, 09:17 PM
Boogs awaiting restart
A-League: Jets skipper keen for early take off
James Gardiner
Newcastle Jets
JETS captain Nigel Boogaard hopes the NSW Government are quick to implement step one of the Roadmap to Covidsafe announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Friday and allow gatherings of up to 10 people outdoors.
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Jets players, like all those in the A-League, have been training in isolation since the season was postponed on March 24.
Although an official start date is yet to be locked in, A-League clubs have been flagged to resume training in July, with the competition to restart in August.
The resumption plan was confirmed after Foxtel finalised their $12 million quarterly broadcast rights installment last week.
"It is is good to know that Foxtel have fulfilled their commitment to pay FFA," Boogaard said. "We are still waiting to see how much of that is passed on to the clubs and the players.
"In terms of time frames, I know it has been tabled that we go back to training at the start of July and play games in August but the playing group would like to get back earlier, and as soon as possible, to prepare properly for what is likely to be a very chaotic month."
The Jets have games remaining against Wellington, Central Coast, Sydney and Western United. Some clubs have six games to play, which will be condensed to a three-to-four week period.
The Jets have been following individual programs for six weeks.
"Our opinion is that as soon as we can get into competitive training, the more it will reduce the risks," Boogaard said.
"Injury prevention is obviously a big thing, but the quality of the product is important as well. We don't want to restart the league and the product is a long way off what it was when we finished.
"The bare minimum would be a month. To get the league back to the standard it was and allow the players to get back to peak fitness, I can't see that being sufficient enough time ... ideally, we would love to be reinstated tomorrow and get back to training."
Boogaard is on the executive of the Professional Footballers Australia players union and has been part of a committee working with FFA on a plan to complete the season.
"The players have been very involved," Boogaard said. "There have been group talks with [Head Of A-League] Greg O'Rourke and [FFA boss] James Johnson.
"It is good that the FFA are willing to open up and answer the players' questions and let us get an understanding of where things are from their point of view.
"As bad as it [COVID-19] has been for everyone, it has united all the stakeholders and we are starting to work together to come up with better solutions for the future. I applaud what FFA are doing in opening that avenue for discussion. That is how the game is going to grow. Not to say that the players deserve the right to make policy, but it's important that they understand our point of view when those decisions are being made."
Boogaard believed it was essential for teams to resume group training at the same time.
"It is about maintaining sporting integrity and making sure there is not too much disparity between when teams return to training, " he said. "If it's a week or two, that may be acceptable. You don't want a position where, say, Perth overtake Sydney to win the league because they were able to get back on the park earlier to train."
The Jets had won three of their last four to move to 24 points, three outside the top six when the season was halted. However, sixth-placed Western United have played two games less.
"The focus for us - not knowing if we would come back or not - was to finish on the right note," the Jets skipper said.
"To walk away from the Melbourne City win, knowing we are capable of beating someone who is supposed to challenge for the title. We are building towards bigger things this season and next year as well. There is still a sniff and we will keep pushing. The mentality at this club is that we go until the end."
Frodo
29-05-2020, 10:27 AM
Hearts have said that Burns won't be allowed back to us no matter what happens, as his loan deal has expired and they don't want to extend it.
My2BobsWorth
29-05-2020, 06:32 PM
Hearts would be lucky to beat the jets so who cares
Hearts would be lucky to beat the jets so who cares
Yep this. They have no ticker
turbojetfireV8
31-05-2020, 11:18 AM
Foxsports JOWIC story - apparently he is up in Brisvegas at the moment but no plans to return to football:
HOMEFOOTBALLA LEAGUE
‘No regrets’: The rising star who gave up football to become a rapper in LA
A-LEAGUE
May 30, 2020 1:31pm
by ZAC RAYSON
Source: FOX SPORTS
In August 2019, one of Australia’s brightest young talents stunned the football world by announcing he was leaving the A-League for Los Angeles to pursue a career in hip-hop.
Now, 10 months later, Joe Champness – aka JOWIC – is riding out the coronavirus crisis in Brisbane with family and celebrating the recent release of a music video on one of hip-hop’s most popular platforms.
In this exclusive interview for Fox Sports, he opens up on the growth of his musical career, his enduring love for football, and having ‘no regrets’.
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HOW IT ALL BEGAN
For Champness, football and music have always been twin passions. The Auckland-born 23-year-old arrived in Australia when he was five, and it wasn’t long before he was chasing both dreams.
“I think my earliest memories of performing are in grade six. My primary school I’d be rehearsing and writing music during the lunch times.
“I’d be playing sport but I’d also be writing – and then as soon as we go back into class I would be asking the teacher if I could rap for the class!
“That’s my earliest memory and from then onwards it was just ‘I like writing and making music’, it kind stuck with me.”
In high school, he struck up a friendship with another hip-hop lover – his DJ, ‘Watty’. The pair continue to collaborate closely on music in the US.
“We go all the way back to middle school, skipping class a little bit in the studio working on music. He stuck by me the whole time with the music. It’s just good to be able to do what you love with good people.”
The decision to walk out on the Jets and his already-established football career was a courageous one. But it’s not the first time Champness has jetted across the world to pursue a dream.
In 2017, having signed an academy deal with Newcastle, Joey and another promising Jets teenager were loaned to a Portuguese second-division team, Academica de Coimbra.
A flashy winger, Champness unsurprisingly developed swiftly in the nation of megastar Cristiano Ronaldo – but he was still working on his music ambitions.
“I set up a studio in the wardrobe! The first thing I did when we landed in Portugal, the first thing I did was I found a music store and I bought the necessary equipment. We set up the only good place in the bedroom to record was in the wardrobe. So that’s what I did, I was recording in a tiny wardrobe.
“(It hurt) my cooking because I’d put the food on and then I’d go record in the wardrobe. And then it would burn.
Living with fellow Jets youngster Antonee Burke-Gilroy, Champness says “He can definitely vouch for me burning whatever it was I was cooking because I was too busy recording.”
THE BALANCING ACT
Back in Australia, Champness quickly rose into the Jets’ senior squad and earned a spot in the Olyroos – Australia’s under-23 squad which recently qualified for the Tokyo Olympics.
He was making a name in Newcastle as an emerging artist too. The club was fully aware, and never tried to dissuade him from his music. If anything, the opposite was true.
After the disappointing loss of the 2018/19 A-League grand final, where Champness came on as a substitute in front of Newcastle’s largest-ever home crowd, JOWIC was lined up to perform ahead of the next home game. Thousands came early to see Joey perform outside the stadium.
CEO Lawrie McKinna was sidestage, having organised the gig. He danced, chanted along with the crowd, hugged Champness at the end of the set. Joey – already a popular player for his direct approach to defenders – signed dozens of shirts, took plenty of selfies.
His teammates, too, were always supportive.
“The boys always wanted me to do a little freestyle, (asking) ‘Joey do a freestyle for us, Joey’s gonna rap’. I didn’t usually do it just like that!
“I just told them to play my music. I said ‘you want to hear me rap, then play my music. I’m trying to chill out.’”
THE DECISION
In the end, Champness knew he had to choose. Football or music. An established career and a path to the Socceroos – or a leap of faith into the world of hip-hop.
“I made the decision that I wanted to fully commit to the music … It was just one of those things where I felt strongly about it. I’m not the type of person who’s gonna ignore it or something like that.”
And so, after a trial month in LA, he walked away with the Jets’ blessing and with the support of his teammates.
“They were really good about it, just like the club were really good, really supportive. I’ve got some really encouraging messages from the boys and, and from senior members of the squad as well. It’s all love for sure.”
He recognised that it could cost him his other love – football – but made peace with the sacrifice.
“When I made that decision, it was my mindset was always, like you’re making that decision to be successful in music. I had to accept that potentially I’m not playing another game.”
It was a staggeringly bold decision, especially as Champness had no record deal and few contacts to call on.
“When I went out there, I didn’t really know anyone, you know what I mean? And I was just really blessed to come into contact with people that I connected to on a friendship level and on the business level.
“No matter how things end up going, I’m thankful for those experiences and those kinds of relationships as well … the ones that took me under their wing and showed me the ropes.”
THE BACKLASH
Plenty was said when Champness flew the proverbial coop.
Some expected him to come crawling back to the Jets – he has two years remaining on an agreement to rejoin Newcastle if he does choose to restart his football career – and few believed he would have what it takes in LA.
But Champness didn’t listen.
“Whenever you’re trying to pursue something, there’s always going to be people saying things and that doesn’t bother me one bit, you know. In fact, I definitely take it as motivation and nothing more. I never take anything negative too personally.”
He put his head down and worked. Learned from experienced names in the industry, built a tight team and honed his sound. Champness spent his time in the studio – mostly a large home studio, far from the cramped wardrobe of his Portugal dorm – and he didn’t play shows.
His influences?
“I gotta say my top three at this time: Biggie (Notorious BIG); Jay Z; and in the modern day – in the last decade – the numbers aren’t really lying about Drake being an influential artist. So those three are probably, from the standpoint of music (my biggest influences).”
TODAY
On Friday, Champness released a music video for his single ‘My Plan’ – the culmination of his time in LA.
It was released on World Star Hip Hop, an iconic platform for the urban scene which boasts 23.5 million YouTube followers, and is well known for establishing the careers of gifted young artists.
The video racked up 75,000 viewers in 24 hours, and Champness says former Jets teammates have reached out with congratulations and to share the song.
Watch the video at the end of the story.
Coronavirus scuppered his plans to celebrate and promote the release with his LA team, forcing him to head home in recent weeks.
“I had to do the whole two week (quarantine) thing, two weeks at the hotel. It gave me a lot of time to write music, you could say that. Literally just sitting in a hotel room for two weeks.”
Back in Brisbane, he’s enjoying seeing his family – but he’s not letting his foot off the accelerator.
“It’s always good spend time with family, they’re the most important people in my life.
“(But) I can work from anywhere in the world.”
For now, the single is his priority. But he has big plans for the future – and he still bears the trademark confidence Jets fans saw so often when he was on the field.
“Everyone wants to be the best and that’s what I want to be – the best me that I can be. “I’m a very competitive person. And once I set my sights on something, I think it’s very important to be to be ruthless in what you’re doing. Whatever it is, I think it’s best to fully commit.
“The goal is to just see me and my people on top.”
‘NO REGRETS’
Champness is still in regular contact with his ex-teammates (“Obviously I watch the games and everything like that”) but he’s not thinking about returning to the fold any time soon.
“I love football. It’s always gonna be a part of me, but no regrets. I’ve got no regrets whatsoever.
“You know, I’ve learned a lot, not only as an artist (but) as a person, and the music’s moving forward. I think if people really look at what’s going on, they’re gonna appreciate how far the music’s come in the last while and hopefully see the potential in what could be to come.”
https://youtu.be/0ZQv8JWnrGg
My2BobsWorth
31-05-2020, 06:39 PM
I think it"s time lorry fukt off
StannyCFCJET
31-05-2020, 11:17 PM
I think it"s time lorry fukt off
**** no. The good Lawrie has done for this club far outweighs the little if any bad
Frodo
01-06-2020, 01:13 AM
**** no. The good Lawrie has done for this club far outweighs the little if any bad
What good? We are still a poorly run club with an owner who wants out. The only difference between the current situation and the one before Lawrie got here is the amount of ex-gypos stinking up the place. Our kits are still the wrong colours, the beer is still mid-strength, we still don't have Jets shaped hats, our wooden spoon collection is more likely to increase than our trophy cabinet for the foreseeable future...
We are a club that no one takes seriously, and for good reason. Having an ex mayor of Gosford isn't doing anything to fix that.
Aegon
01-06-2020, 08:10 AM
**** no. The good Lawrie has done for this club far outweighs the little if any bad
Agree
Aegon
01-06-2020, 08:25 AM
What good? We are still a poorly run club with an owner who wants out. The only difference between the current situation and the one before Lawrie got here is the amount of ex-gypos stinking up the place. Our kits are still the wrong colours, the beer is still mid-strength, we still don't have Jets shaped hats, our wooden spoon collection is more likely to increase than our trophy cabinet for the foreseeable future...
We are a club that no one takes seriously, and for good reason. Having an ex mayor of Gosford isn't doing anything to fix that.
Gypos? Who cares? There's been some successes and some failures, however if it makes our team stronger and theirs weaker then great.
Wrong colours? This is always the worst argument. It was tried, they were the worst selling shirts ever & apart from NSL die hards and the social media bandwagon nobody liked them. Cinnamon and Green, awful.......:deadhorse:
Mid strength beer? Stupid rule, but in accordance with harm minimisation from NSW liquor regulations. I doubt anyone is going to solve this one any time soon.
Jets shaped hats? yup i'm sure they'll sell as well as cinnamon and green shirts.
Your last point just shows the too prevalent negative mindset of most Arsenal fans. I bet you subscribe to Arsenal TV.
Frodo
01-06-2020, 01:05 PM
Gypos? Who cares? There's been some successes and some failures, however if it makes our team stronger and theirs weaker then great. You started off poorly here. There has been no real successes from my memory. Only Fitzgerald's and Millar's stealing a living.
Wrong colours? This is always the worst argument. It was tried, they were the worst selling shirts ever & apart from NSL die hards and the social media bandwagon nobody liked them. Cinnamon and Green, awful.......:deadhorse: You didn't exactly improve with this nonsense either. You got any facts to back up those claims? Feel free to post the shirt sales numbers. Go ask an actual Jets fan what they think of the 07/08 kit and get back to me.
Jets shaped hats? yup i'm sure they'll sell as well as cinnamon and green shirts. This is where you lost all current and future credibility.
Your last point just shows the too prevalent negative mindset of most Arsenal fans. I bet you subscribe to Arsenal TV. Lmao, nice childish jab there. Instead of trying to find some positive for Lawrie to outweigh the bad you thought this nonsense was worthwhile.
StannyCFCJET
01-06-2020, 03:53 PM
Would we rather go back to the days of robbie middlebye and troy palmer
Frodo
01-06-2020, 05:01 PM
Would we rather go back to the days of robbie middlebye and troy palmer
We could always move forward to a better option?
Hunter403
01-06-2020, 06:32 PM
Wes not coming back, Burns is gone, Qiang Li gone.
According to Lawrie in respect to Wes..."Hopefully, we haven’t seen the last of him in Jets colours".
Hunter403
01-06-2020, 06:34 PM
Wrong colours? This is always the worst argument. It was tried, they were the worst selling shirts ever & apart from NSL die hards and the social media bandwagon nobody liked them. Cinnamon and Green, awful.......:deadhorse:
Not sure if it was the colours that were the problem. It was just a damn awful design.
#BRING BACK THE GOLD!!!
turbojetfireV8
01-06-2020, 07:42 PM
Pretty sure Lawrie said to Furns that any gold strip definitely needs to be the right shade (think he even dissed the Wanderers strip in his comments), so it's probs not off the cards to do a gold strip, just would depend what the Viva paper towel boyz offer. Not sure Lawrie broached the subject of cinnamon and emerald, so it might be off limits, which would be a shame as the right design could def work, but like any second or third strip you would not expect it to sell as well as a home strip especially as most fans only want to fork out for one strip and will most likely make it the one that makes most sense to wear to home matches - so we need to officially change our colours back to C&E and ditch that bitch knytes crap, gold as the alternate strip, and any colour that isn't white for a third strip (if we even need a third strip with an awesome C&E strip as our mainstay) :popcorn:
Aegon
01-06-2020, 07:58 PM
#BRING BACK THE GOLD!!!
This I can agree with.
I thought our current arrangement with Viva expired at the end of the current season.
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