2019 FFA Cup Qtr Final | Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets | Tue 17th Sept 2019 1930

[Jeterpool]

2019 FFA Cup Quarter Final - Adelaide United v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 44 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 43 occasions in the A-League and on 1 occasion in the FFA Cup.

Jets Wins - 13, United Wins - 18, Drawn - 13


In Newcastle – 20 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, United Wins - 6, Drawn - 5
In Adelaide - 24 matches
Jets Wins - 4, United Wins - 12, Drawn - 8

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9774
Average Away A-League Crowd - 9621

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 44, United - 58
In Adelaide -
Jets – 22, United - 40

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 19, United - 19

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 114 (111 yellow, 3 red), United 72 (69 yellow, 3 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 0 - Adelaide United 0 at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 20, Season 2018/19

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19Matchday20

Newcastle JetsAdelaide United
Glen MossPaul Izzo
Daniel GeorgievskiRyan Strain
Nigel BoogaardMichael Marrone
Nikolai Topor-StanleyMichael Jakobsen
Ivan VujicaScott Galloway
Ben KantarovskiIsaias
Matthew RidentonMirko Boland
Dimitri PetratosRyan Kitto
Jair EduardoCraig Goodwin
Kaine SheppardGeorge Blackwood
Roy O'DonovanJordy Thomassen



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Kemp 12’og, Carle 22’, Zelic 68’, Carle 89’) – Adelaide 2 (Valkanis 38, Corbo 67’og) at Hindmarsh Stadium, Round 8, Season 2005/06, 14/10/2005.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Adelaide 7 (Djite 2’, 54’, Carrusca 23’, 28’, Boogaard 35’, Cirio 70’, Isais 90+3’) at Hindmarsh Stadium, A-League Season 2014/15 Round 15, 24/01/2015.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths, Nick Carle, Mark Bridge, Matt Thompson, Andrew Nabbout, Ben Kantarovski (3)
United - Marcelo Carrusca (6)



COACHING
[INDENT]Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Gertjan Verbeek - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 6 matches (2 wins, 2 drawn, 2 losses = 0.333333333333333% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (5 wins, 7 drawn and 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (2 wins, 2 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No matches
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

[StannyCFCJET]

10th August?

[Jeterpool]

10th August?

Stuff up. Sorry

Mods - update to September please

[plague]

Loose.
Our season peaked at Edgeworth.
Fold the club.

[Frodo]

Wait, are we still in the cup? I just assumed that we managed to get knocked out by an administration error or something.

In reality tho, there's only 3 decent squads left in this thing. If we beat Radelaide there will only be 1 left. (Either WSW or City)

[Grimario]

Stuff up. Sorry

Mods - update to September please

Should get the mods to put the right date too, not just the month. Bloody mods. Sack em all.

[boz-monaut]

I actually thought it was tonight - but that's the upcoming fiasco against Kuwait, not the inevitable Jets shitstorm

might ban Grimario until the 17th, purely out of spite

[Grimario]

I actually thought it was tonight - but that's the upcoming fiasco against Kuwait, not the inevitable Jets shitstorm

might ban Grimario until the 17th, purely out of spite

But where else would I talk to myself about disc golf? :(

[Alton]

Wait, are we still in the cup? I just assumed that we managed to get knocked out by an administration error or something.

In reality tho, there's only 3 decent squads left in this thing. If we beat Radelaide there will only be 1 left. (Either WSW or City)

We will play Hume in the final

[Jetmaster]

But where else would I talk to myself about disc golf? :(

Where you usually do Grim - Whirlpool..:wink::rof:

[Grimario]

Where you usually do Grim - Whirlpool..:wink::rof:

Not talking to myself over there though. There's at least 4 other people posting!

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, prep for cup

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetstopor100919.mp4

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN more on prep

http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsboogard110919.mp4

[lil_masi]

Arroyo rolled his ankle at training. Is now in doubt

[The Dunster]

And everything's now back to normal.

[Dogshot99]

Arroyo flies out with Jets but may not play

Local Sport


PANAMANIAN striker Abdiel Arroyo flew to Adelaide with his Newcastle Jets teammates on Monday but it remains to be seen if he will feature in Tuesday's FFA Cup quarter-final at Coopers

Arroyo suffered an ankle injury at training last Friday and, while it has since improved after intensive treatment, Jets coach Ernie Merrick appears unlikely to risk him in the starting line-up, if at all.

Arroyo is expected to be named among Newcastle substitutes but how much time he receives will probably depend on whether the Jets are chasing the game.

"I don't think the injury is as bad as we thought," Merrick said.

"He still has localised pain, but it isn't too bad.

"So what we've done is we've strapped it up. We're going to take him across to Adelaide and see if he'll play some game time or not.

"I don't think he'll start ... we'll take him over there, but I'm not sure if he'll play much time at all."

In Arroyo's absence, Kaine Sheppard, who scored three goals in 22 games last season in his debut A-League campaign, is set to join Socceroo Dimi Petratos and new recruits Nick Fitzgerald and Wes Hoolahan Newcastle's front line.

"Kaine Sheppard's been scoring goals for fun at training," Merrick said.

"He's always there, he's always around. He's good off the bench, he's good starting. So he's pushing very hard to be a regular up front for us."

Jets skipper Nigel Boogaard is likely to receive his first game time of Newcastle's 2019-20 campaign, having received a medical clearance last week to resume playing after off-season knee surgery.

"We'll probably have the likes of Nigel Boogaard, Nikolai Topor-Stanley, [Glen] Moss, [Angus] Thurgate, who is becoming a regular, and maybe Arroyo on the bench," Merrick said.

"If that's the case, that's probably the strongest bench since I've been at the club."

In what will be their first appearance in the cup quarter-finals, Merrick said Newcastle "want to be on the front foot from the start" against an Adelaide side who traditionally have done well in the knockout competition.

"It would be really good to go all the way to the final of the FFA Cup," Merrick said.

"But that's two games away. It's very important that we focus on this one and play to our strengths."

The match represents a homecoming for Jets defender Johnny Koutroumbis, who grew up in Adelaide before signing with Newcastle as an 18-year-old.

"I did support Adelaide United," Koutroumbis. "It's always a dream to play professional football, especially as a young player and coming through the youth team.

"It was a dream [to play for Adelaide], but my dream ended up here."

Meanwhile Irish defender Bobby Burns is expected to arrive in Newcastle this week for medical and physical testing. Providing the 19-year-old meets requirements, the Jets are poised to sign him on loan from Scottish Premier League side Hearts.

As suspected. Can't wait to watch tonight.

[Couscous]

'Mon da Jets.

[&1gest]

Anyone got a stream for this?

[Jetmaster]

FFS - is this Kayo only? Can't find the usual Fox stream.

[Frodo]

FFS - is this Kayo only? Can't find the usual Fox stream.

I was just in the process of signing up for a trial.. then a saw the text commentary say Red card Jets. I'm out.

[westjet]

Italiano been training at the Boogard school of defending. I love watching the jets, laugh a minute stuff.

[Jetmaster]

Not signing up for a free trial when I pay a fair quid already for Fox - idiots. Can't really be bothered now after seeing the red card.

[plague]

I love this club so much.

[mic22]

I think foxtel is streaming if you're a subscriber

[plague]

I'm watching on Kayo and it's awesome because we stink so bad.
This is my heroin.

[Jetmaster]

I think foxtel is streaming if you're a subscriber

Usually does but not tonight for some reason.

[mic22]

Seems like the Puddle will make an appearance very soon...

[380]

I think foxtel is streaming if you're a subscriber

Nope, every link to streaming redirects you to Kayo, F&*K(ng deplorable by Fox

[westjet]

Who is our 3rd keeper?

[plague]

Nick Fitzgerald would have saved that.

[Frodo]

Nick Fitzgerald would have saved that.

Can Berisha play in goals?

[Jardelsimage]

On the up side, WTF are the scum wearing tonight. Is that not the worst strip ever made.

[380]

Hoolahan assisted off apparently, any idea on the injury ?

[plague]

Hoolahan assisted off apparently, any idea on the injury ?

he tore his will to live apparently.

[Grimario]

Hoolahan assisted off apparently, any idea on the injury ?

Ankle injury. Wasn't able to hobble off, had to be assisted.

Knowing Jets form, probably career over for Wessi.

[Grimario]

For anyone that hasn't seen it...

https://twitter.com/FFACup/status/1173896532233310210

[The Dunster]

Saw the send off on phone so hard to tell but faek me days that's harsh given it's outside the box and the attacking player is not only moving away from goal- but he's not 100% guarenteed to recover the ball or score.

Biased view sure. But geez we rarely get a call on our favour.

[plague]

Saw the send off on phone so hard to tell but faek me days that's harsh given it's outside the box and the attacking player is not only moving away from goal- but he's not 100% guarenteed to recover the ball or score.

Biased view sure. But geez we rarely get a call on our favour.

Nah.
Textbook red.

[evolution]

Normal service resumes, it's good to be back boys.

[turbojetfireV8]

gee Reds got an easy ride from the ref though, didn't want to pull em up for fouls

[plague]

gee Reds got an easy ride from the ref though, didn't want to pull em up for fouls

Or handballs either.

[evolution]

Gypos just went 1-0 up in injury time to make the night even better.

[turbojetfireV8]

nuh, fact that Melb Shitty have won one of these things just proves how meaningless the cup is (till 2035 when we actually win one...)

[The Dunster]

Choosing between Moss and Italiano is like choosing between HIV and Ebola.

[plague]

every year we've been in the FFA cup we've not won the title.
reason enough to refuse entry next year.
waste of time and money etc etc etc

[MFKS]

We had a game on tonight??

Who ****ing knew

Shows how shit this club is

The ****s are even keeping shit secret from us all

[Retro Jet]

nuh, fact that Melb Shitty have won one of these things just proves how meaningless the cup is (till 2035 when we actually win one...)

But...but...in 1984, Derek Todd.........

[turbojetfireV8]

But...but...in 1984, Derek Todd.........
pretty sure Melb Shitty never won *that* cup, so my point still stands (at least in my mind :whistling:)

[Frodo]

As if it wouldn't be the most Jets thing ever for Wessi to be out for about 12 weeks or something with some ankle damage..

[londonboy]

All these adverts about the Man Shake diet, and Dimi P and Topor-Stanley go for the milkshake diet instead. Hopefully Ernie gets them on the treadmill over the next few weeks or their herding around the grass will likely damage the McDonald Jones turf.

[Jeterpool]

Player of the Match Survey available now

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WP8RMFN

[Bon]

Am I the only one who thought it wasn't a totally terrible performance from us?

Ok, the Italiano sendoff after 10 mins, Wessi's injury and Moss's open legs aren't ideal..
BUT, We were missing a few players, we held them to only 1-0 (it was a sh!t goal too), we never gave up, the boys fitness levels looked quite good for a team that played 80 mins a man down..

It could be worse, we could be like the gypos and ONLY JUST scrape through against a low level side in injury time..

[Jeterpool]

Am I the only one who thought it wasn't a totally terrible performance from us?

Ok, the Italiano sendoff after 10 mins, Wessi's injury and Moss's open legs aren't ideal..
BUT, We were missing a few players, we held them to only 1-0 (it was a sh!t goal too), we never gave up, the boys fitness levels looked quite good for a team that played 80 mins a man down..

It could be worse, we could be like the gypos and ONLY JUST scrape through against a low level side in injury time..

I only watched the second half. When we came out it looked like were still in the sheds but settled as the half wore on. I can't comment on how we looked 1st half.

Boys looked knackered at the end.

I look at this in a way that we've had competitive football matches to play up until a final month before kickoff for the league.

Adelaide looked good, we can work on our defensive structure some more, but otherwise yeah there are positives to take away.

[Bon]

I only watched the second half. When we came out it looked like were still in the sheds but settled as the half wore on. I can't comment on how we looked 1st half.

Boys looked knackered at the end.

I look at this in a way that we've had competitive football matches to play up until a final month before kickoff for the league.

Adelaide looked good, we can work on our defensive structure some more, but otherwise yeah there are positives to take away.

That's right.
I'd like to think there are some positives there and that it's not all doom and gloom..
Or maybe I'm just a fool for trying to be positive and have hope..

[londonboy]

That's right.
I'd like to think there are some positives there and that it's not all doom and gloom..
Or maybe I'm just a fool for trying to be positive and have hope..

Arroyo, Wessi and Miller improve the first 11 dramatically. In particular I am pleasantly surprised with Arroyo. I had no idea what to expect, but his pace, strength and work rate are all impressive. He obviously tired towards the end (as did everyone) but he worked his socks off and will cause A-league defences problems. No idea what his finishing is going to be like, but if Dimi and others can support him quickly - and he learns to lay the ball off - he could be a real handle this season.

I too am pretty optimistic for the season.

[380]

As if it wouldn't be the most Jets thing ever for Wessi to be out for about 12 weeks or something with some ankle damage..

Young bloke just told me 12 is the guesstimate at this point in time.

[Jeterpool]

Young bloke just told me 12 is the guesstimate at this point in time.

4 of which before out first game, but if that's correct it's a miss until about Round 10

[StannyCFCJET]

Am I the only one who thought it wasn't a totally terrible performance from us?

Ok, the Italiano sendoff after 10 mins, Wessi's injury and Moss's open legs aren't ideal..
BUT, We were missing a few players, we held them to only 1-0 (it was a sh!t goal too), we never gave up, the boys fitness levels looked quite good for a team that played 80 mins a man down..

It could be worse, we could be like the gypos and ONLY JUST scrape through against a low level side in injury time..

We never looked like scoring which is a big worry

[380]

How the wind changes in less than 24hrs

[belchardo]

As if it wouldn't be the most Jets thing ever for Wessi to be out for about 12 weeks or something with some ankle damage..

nostradamus.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6392309/body-blow-for-jets-as-irish-import-wes-hoolahan-suffers-ankle-injury/?cs=7580

[russjaybee]

Up to 3 months are you f&(*ing shitting me. What an absolutely trash game, peak vintage Jets ffs; and yes to top it all off the gypos limp over the line with a crappy goal right at the death.
Hume had James Brown and Mitch Cooper running about, how bout that.

Arroyo looks like he'll be a real handful, but also looks like he couldn't hit the side of a barn.
He is strong, had some good touches and worked his arse off which I like.

Wessi looked exceptional, he has so much quality.
Of course we will now miss him for a large portion of the season and he'll likely not come back the same player, ffs why does this sound so familiar.

Overall though a pretty decent performance and Adelaide were lucky we were a man down and our best player broke, because they would have had a real match on their hands.
They barely scraped by thanks to poor Mossys howler, just to rub salt right in to that gaping wound.

FFS.

[380]

Throw in incompetent unaccountable refereeing and nothing has changed.

Welcome to another season of officials through there inability to do there jobs properly eventually determining too many outcomes.

This competition will always remain a circus whilst the bloke in charge of the clowns goes unaccountable week after week.

[Frodo]

nostradamus.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6392309/body-blow-for-jets-as-irish-import-wes-hoolahan-suffers-ankle-injury/?cs=7580

Hahaha. Never change Jerks, never change.

[Jetmaster]

Bah....Ernie just had the shits.

Let's wait for the scans.

[sorefootballer]

Season

[MFKS]

Up to 3 months are you f&(*ing shitting me. What an absolutely trash game, peak vintage Jets ffs; and yes to top it all off the gypos limp over the line with a crappy goal right at the death.
Hume had James Brown and Mitch Cooper running about, how bout that.

Arroyo looks like he'll be a real handful, but also looks like he couldn't hit the side of a barn.
He is strong, had some good touches and worked his arse off which I like.

Wessi looked exceptional, he has so much quality.
Of course we will now miss him for a large portion of the season and he'll likely not come back the same player, ffs why does this sound so familiar.

Overall though a pretty decent performance and Adelaide were lucky we were a man down and our best player broke, because they would have had a real match on their hands.
They barely scraped by thanks to poor Mossys howler, just to rub salt right in to that gaping wound.

FFS.

I don't know what you are worried about
Be thankful the FFA are inept we only have a 6 month season to worry about

Imagine having a proper football season of 9/10 months supporting this rabble of shite

[Alton]

An update on Wessi please

[StannyCFCJET]

An update on Wessi please

Hearing 12 weeks

[Jeterpool]

An update on Wessi please

Probably in the waiting room.

[Couscous]

I am distressed.

[russjaybee]

I am distressed.

How about this comment from Ernie about who we have that can fill the creative role -


Merrick said there were "a number of players" Newcastle could slot into their forward line, including Angus Thurgate, Jason Hoffman and Kaine Sheppard, starting with Saturday's trial match against Sydney in Dubbo.

Kill me now.

[Jeterpool]

How about this comment from Ernie about who we have that can fill the creative role -


He actually said they could fill in a front 3, because we can't replace Wes and so we'd look to move back to a 4-3-3 formation instead of playing two 10's. Literally the three paragraph's above your extract.



In his absence, Merrick said Newcastle would probably opt for a three-man strike force, instead of playing with two No.10s, as they have so far this pre-season.

"He's a bit special as a player, especially as a creative player," Merrick said.

"I'm not sure that we've got anyone that creative, but we've certainly got goalscorers up front that can play that role. It just means a slight change to the system that we're playing."

[plague]

#fakenews has infiltrated the foz.

#Trump2020
#MAGA

[pv4]

He actually said they could fill in a front 3, because we can't replace Wes and so we'd look to move back to a 4-3-3 formation instead of playing two 10's. Literally the three paragraph's above your extract.

I am a bit confused what formation he sees us having played so far.

Against Edgeworth I would claim it was a front three with Wessi in behind as the lone 10, just that one of the front three was Dimi whom is naturally less wide than a normal right sided front three player. Unless he saw us playing two number 10s, no right sided forward, and Fitz either the second striker or an asymmetrical formation that had him left wing with no right wing?

Either way, we don't have two players who are naturally number 10s in Wessi & Dimi in our starting lineup for a few months, seemingly. So Dimi will almost definitely be the 10, with probably now Hoff to fill the right mid, Fitz to stay left, Arroyo stay top.

tl;dr we've been playing however sternly structured a 4-2-3-1 and will continue to do so, it's just with Wessi gone we aren't fitting Dimi into a differently-shaped hole anymore again (same as when Vargas was here).

[380]

How about this comment from Ernie about who we have that can fill the creative role -


Kill me now.

Yep pauper budget = no depth

[Jeterpool]

I am a bit confused what formation he sees us having played so far.

Against Edgeworth I would claim it was a front three with Wessi in behind as the lone 10, just that one of the front three was Dimi whom is naturally less wide than a normal right sided front three player. Unless he saw us playing two number 10s, no right sided forward, and Fitz either the second striker or an asymmetrical formation that had him left wing with no right wing?

Either way, we don't have two players who are naturally number 10s in Wessi & Dimi in our starting lineup for a few months, seemingly. So Dimi will almost definitely be the 10, with probably now Hoff to fill the right mid, Fitz to stay left, Arroyo stay top.

tl;dr we've been playing however sternly structured a 4-2-3-1 and will continue to do so, it's just with Wessi gone we aren't fitting Dimi into a differently-shaped hole anymore again (same as when Vargas was here).

I saw us playing 4-2-2-2, with the fullbacks providing the width against Edgy.

[pv4]

I saw us playing 4-2-2-2, with the fullbacks providing the width against Edgy.

Interesting. Who was the second striker in that perceived lineup? Millar got forward way more than Hoff so was Dimi the second striker?

[Jeterpool]

Interesting. Who was the second striker in that perceived lineup? Millar got forward way more than Hoff so was Dimi the second striker?

Fitzy

[russjaybee]

He actually said they could fill in a front 3, because we can't replace Wes and so we'd look to move back to a 4-3-3 formation instead of playing two 10's. Literally the three paragraph's above your extract.

Haha fair call, I have become what I hated, a reactionary spreader of misinformation.
I am ashamed.

Not that this fills me with much more hope ... ! Which is good I guess, because it's the hope that gets you in the end.