19/20 HAL Round 2 | CC Mariners v Newcastle Jets | Sat 19/10/19 1930

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2018/19 Matchday 2 Central Coast Mariners v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 47 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 47 occasions in the A-League and on 0 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 16, Mariners Wins - 15, Drawn - 16


In Newcastle – 23 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, Mariners Wins - 5, Drawn - 9
In Gosford - 23 matches
Jets Wins - 6, Mariners Wins - 10, Drawn - 7

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12037
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10568

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 57, Mariners - 57
In Gosford -
Jets – 30, Mariners - 36

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 23, Mariners - 21

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 113 (109 yellow, 4 red), Mariners 69 (63 yellow, 6 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (O'Donovan 74', Vargas 81') - Central Coast Mariners 3 (Murray 51', Karacan 64', Pain 67') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 22, Season 2018/19

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19Matchday22

Newcastle JetsCentral Coast Mariners
Glen MossBen Kennedy
Daniel GeorgievskiMatthew Millar
Nigel BoogaardJonathan Aspropotamitis
Nikolai Topor-StanleySam Graham
Lachlan JacksonJack Clisby
Nick CowburnJem Karacan
Steven UgarkovicJacob Melling
Dimitri PetratosTom Hiariej
Jair EduardoStephen Mallon
Matthew RidentonConnor Pain
Roy O'DonovanJordan Murray



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 8 (Champness 10', O'Donovan 20', McGree, 24', McGree 53', Jackson 61', O'Donovan 68' pen, McGree 75', D Petratos 81') - Mariners 2 (Pain 39', Buhagiar 80') at Central Coast Stadium, A-League, Round 27, Season 2017/18

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 - (Coveny 85') - Mariners 4 (Gumprecht 4', Brown 34', Hutchinson 72', 83'), Round 16, Season 2005/06 at Express Advocate Stadium, 31/12/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths, Roy O'Donovan (6)
Mariners - Matt Simon (8)



2019/20 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss000000000
3Jason Hoffman000000000
4Nigel Boogaard000000000
5Ben Kantarovski000000000
6Steven Ugarkovic000000000
8Wes Hoolahan000000000
9Abdiel Arroyo000000000
10Dimitri Petratos000000000
11Nick Fitzgerald000000000
14Kaine Sheppard000000000
16Matt Millar000000000
18John Koutroumbis000000000
19Kosta Petratos000000000
20Lewis Italiano000000000
22Lachlan Jackson000000000
23Matthew Ridenton000000000
24Joe Champness000000000
25Jack Simmons000000000
28Patrick Langlois000000000
31Maki Petratos000000000
32Angus Thurgate000000000
40Noah James000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley000000000


COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Alen Stajic - 1 win, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 6 matches (5 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 83% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (6 wins, 6 drawn and 5 losses = 35% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 2 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 3 losses = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 losses = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans -1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 loss = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)

Central Coast Mariners Coach Record – Alen Stajic 100% win ratio (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses)

[plague]

The quicker we lose and throw this season away the more desperate Lee is the sell paving the way for the glorious return of Con to the club.

Let's do this, loose 6-5.

[Dogshot99]

Banish the thought. 3 zip with a brace from this guy...

Soccer: Jets hired gun on track for A-League debut against Mariners in F3 derby

James Gardiner

Local Sport



HIRED gun Abdiel Arroyo is back to full pace and barring a mishap will make his A-League debut for the Jets in the F3 derby against Central Coast Mariners at Gosford on Saturday night.

The powerhouse striker trained strongly on Monday and showed no ill effects of a hamstring strain which forced him out of the Panama squad for a CONACAF Nation's League match with Mexico on Wednesday.


Jets coach Ernie Merrick confirmed that the 25-year-old was on track for Saturday's season opener but it's unclear if he will start or be used off the bench.

Regardless, Merrick is expecting goals from the Central American and the other players in the front four.

"Central strikers are finishers," Merrick said. "I don't want him doing what a wider player would do - beating the fullback, turn him inside-out etc. I'm sure he could do it. His main job is to get in the right areas quickly at the right time and make sure he gets on the end of things and puts them on target.

"I expect the front four all to score goals, preferably in double figures. End of story. If they don't score goals or at least get in goal-scoring positions or set up goals they will struggle to stay in the team."

With Dimi Petratos on Socceroos duty in Chinese Taipei and Johnny Koutroumbis is in Qatar at an Olyroos training camp, the Jets won't have a team run until Thursday.

Arroyo is not the only Jet in line for an A-League debut against Newcastle's fierce rivals, who opened their campaign with an unlucky 2-1 loss to Western Sydney.



Northern Ireland under-21 international Bobby Burns is the front runner to start at left back.

"It is difficult with a couple of players away with the national teams. I'm not sure what the team will be," Burns said. "I will just try my best at training this week and see what happens."

Burns has played opposite Arroyo at training and has no doubts the athletic front man will be a handful for the Mariners defence.

"He is very, very quick," Burns said. "I'm glad we will be able to stop chasing him once the games start. It has been difficult in training games. Hopefully he can stay injury free. He is learning the language now and is starting to integrate with the group."

Burns is on loan at the Jets from Scottish Premier League Hearts and started his pre-season on June 11.

"I'm not nervous, just really excited," Burns said. "It has been a long pre-season. Obviously, I came into it towards the end of the games. We did really well against Sydney (nil-all) and deserved to win. We had a couple of really good chances and a penalty. We had a good result against the Australian under-20s. I think we are well prepared.

"I'm living by myself and watched nearly every game [in the first round]. The style is quite different to the UK. I'm trying to watch as much as I can and ask questions of the coaches. I'm watching the players and what different wingers there are in the league. I was impressed by all the teams. The standard looks good."

Although new to Australia, Burns, 20, is no stranger to derbies.

"The Edinburgh derby - Hearts versus Hibs - is a big derby," he said. "I got the opportunity to play in it last year which was class. There were about 25,000 there. Brilliant atmosphere. We were 1-0 up and everything was going well but in the end we lost 2-1. It is a totally different game, a derby. There is much more on the line than just three points.

"With the Mariners losing on the weekend, we are level on points and it's a good opportunity to start the season off and get ourselves above them. It would be good for our fans as much as the players."

[Jetkel]

When is the squad announced? Do we have enough for a full squad to start with?

Looking forward to this. CCM were pretty unlucky last week, should of taken at least a point from WSW. Would happily take a 94th minute deflected winner.

[Jeterpool]

https://www.newcastlefootball.net/home/2019/09/test/

Link to a graphical preview we are looking to release through the Jetstream each week. Thoughts and feedback welcome

[Frodo]

Can't wait to see Wessi play this weekend. It's gonna be amazing......

[plague]

Do we get some sort of ticket deal or compensation for having to go to Gosford this weekend?
Thinking about going.

[Jeterpool]

Do we get some sort of ticket deal or compensation for having to go to Gosford this weekend?
Thinking about going.

Members can use their tickets to scan in down there and get in for free.

[plague]

Members can use their tickets to scan in down there and get in for free.

Gypos giving is a sample of welfare life.

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN tonight, coaches interviewed about match:
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/jetsmariners.mp4

[Ruud Van Nistelrooys Chin]

Gypos giving is a sample of welfare life.

I stop at Swansea on the way back home to disinfect myself and hose down the car.

Central Coast - the only place where every front yard has four cars that don't work but the house is still mobile,

[Jeterpool]

I stop at Swansea on the way back home to disinfect myself and hose down the car.

Central Coast - the only place where every front yard has four cars that don't work but the house is still mobile,

:rof:

[The Dunster]

I stop at Swansea on the way back home to disinfect myself and hose down the car.



Water can only do so much. You need to take it to the next level.

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[MFKS]

Remember last time we played these ****s and we played that bad we were 3-0 down at Home to these clowns??

Hope these players of ours have not forgotten because there better not be a repeat tomorrow

[Superdylan]

Keen as although I'm abit unsure with the result tommorrow night. Gypos were lucky to not get a point against the Wanderers. Will honestly be happy with a 1 nil to us

So used to early starts will be different being a 7:30pm start.

[Retro Jet]

Just done sCCuMsford Thai @ 92Chilli&Basil. Good feed.
Is there a pub Jerks bums meet at down here b4 game?
Just want somewhere quiet to go and digest
:brrr:

[belchardo]

Koutroumbis. Geez.

Great finish though.

[plague]

Miller stinks.
The gypos cant pass a ****ing ball but are the better team.
fold the club.
Miller stinks.

So many ****ing gypos infesting this club.
disc-race.

[mic22]

Johnny K lost in space, we can't pass for sh*t, we're down in the first 10 mins.
Feels like home.

[plague]

25 mins in this Miller bloke hasnt made one ****ing pass and is getting schooled defensively by a midget.
Ridenton has been our best player which warms me because the Good Member will be happy.

[Hunter403]

25 mins in this Miller bloke hasnt made one ****ing pass and is getting schooled defensively by a midget.
Ridenton has been our best player which warms me because the Good Member will be happy.

Ridenton our best? What are you smoking?

Agree with the rest of your rant

[plague]

Ridenton our best? What are you smoking?

Agree with the rest of your rant

yeah its been another 5 mins so yeah Ridenton stinks now too.
he had a moment there though.

[plague]

so weve got a decent level bloke who is a proper left back sitting on the bench while we have some other dude who doesnt play there very often on the park instead.

ok.


best part gonna be when Merrick subs Jackson on for Johnny K.

[plague]

dear god this is awful.

all of it.

both these teams need to be relegated. tomorrow morning.
Gypo CEO is in the endgame now, hes done it.

just tip your hat to him and get a good carpark at our new home ground at Lisle Carr oval.

[Hunter403]

so weve got a decent level bloke who is a proper left back sitting on the bench while we have some other dude who doesnt play there very often on the park instead.

ok.


best part gonna be when Merrick subs Jackson on for Johnny K.

Ernie gives loyalty always and has no plan b. We are too slow on the counter.

[Hunter403]

Agent Miller doing his job well

[plague]

Agent Miller doing his job well

the only bloke enjoying this is Fitzgerald because by Miller being so ****ing awful no one has had time to see how ****ing shite he is too.

gypo filth. we need an exorcism.

Member, you're a God fearing man. Do you know any Priests that can come in and purge the place?

[belchardo]

the only bloke enjoying this is Fitzgerald because by Miller being so ****ing awful no one has had time to see how ****ing shite he is too.

gypo filth. we need an exorcism.

Member, you're a God fearing man. Do you know any Priests that can come in and purge the place?

God can't help us. We need safran.

[belchardo]

Bit sick of listening to the commentators get excited about the latest display of "silky skills" from dimi. Dimi is all show, no finish.

[Jim]

Whats Arroyo doing. Have a real go muppet or just sign for the coast.

[Aegon]

Ridenton our best? What are you smoking?

Agree with the rest of your rant

Completely agree, ridenton is woeful.

Not covering in defence on left side. Can’t bloody kick a ball in the air on a set piece or cross and his first touches are pathetic.

Mind you, Arroyo & Koutroumbis weren’t much better in the first half.

[belchardo]

I don't understand what we are trying to do in attack.

[Aegon]

Agent Miller doing his job well


His first 20-25 mins he seemed over pressured. He’s grown into the game though.

[westjet]

Someone needs to give petratos a massive spray. Miss a pen and get out of gaol with a second chance and then get one of the stupidest yellows possible. That intellect I expect from the scum.

[Aegon]

Does anyone collect stats on midfield turnovers? Ridenton and Ugarkovic have coughed it up more than a chronic smoker.

[plague]

Does anyone collect stats on midfield turnovers? Ridenton and Ugarkovic have coughed it up more than a chronic smoker.

Ridenton passes to the other team.
Ugabooga makes great passes that no one is smart enough to read.

theres a difference.

[Aegon]

BTW, best thing to happen for the Jets was Matt Simon coming on.

I’d be gutted if he was leading the line for my team, he is woeful. All he is good at is being a pest. He’s cost the Mariners already on 2-3 chances in the second half.

[Aegon]

Ridenton passes to the other team.
Ugabooga makes great passes that no one is smart enough to read.

theres a difference.

He’s usually a safe passer. But had his pocket picked way too many times tonight.

[plague]

BTW, best thing to happen for the Jets was Matt Simon coming on.

I’d be gutted if he was leading the line for my team, he is woeful. All he is good at is being a pest. He’s cost the Mariners already on 2-3 chances in the second half.

the sad part is the commentators celebrating the 'rough and tumble' and the 50 yellow cards.
Hes an embarrassment to the whole league.
any self respecting club or league should have ****ed him off years ago yet here we are thinking him being an asshole is a 'good' thing.

[Aegon]

Bloody hell Milan Juric can kick a ball though.

Best player on the park for me tonight.

Credit to NTS & Boogs though, they did everything right tonight. Which they needed to with lack of cover from their midfield.

Bobby Burns looked pretty slick once he came on & Fitzgerald and Hoffman worked their bloody arses off.

I love the Hoff. He’s the poster boy for someone with lack of technical ability who works their arse off and makes the right decision 90% of the time making it above the level they really should be capable of.

[pv4]

http://www.newcastlefootball.net/forum/showthread.php?2525-Round-2-Gosford-Away-Player-of-the-Match

Vote for your player of the match there

[belchardo]

We weren't real great, cohesion was terrible, but I'll take a point away in the first game of the season.

Topor was good, millar and burns give me some hope.

No idea what we were trying to do with arroyo.

[The Dunster]

Gave my vote to Wes Hoolahan for avoiding this abortion of an effort.

[belchardo]

Gave my vote to Wes Hoolahan for avoiding this abortion of an effort.

I thought about it too.

[StannyCFCJET]

Arroyo wasn't fit and should not have played but as we have no other striker besides some Petratos brothers Ernie probs will never play he was always going to start.

Problem is he hasn't changed his tactics from last season looks like it which is a huge worry. Also if Ridenton could never play CM and Johnny K never play LB again that would be great

[Aegon]

Also if Ridenton could never play CM and Johnny K never play LB again that would be great

It’s like you’re reading my mind.....

I’d love to see Thurgate get a nod in front of Ridenton.

His lack of passing ability is one thing, his lack of protection and cover for his defenders though is too much.

[plague]

Problem is he hasn't changed his tactics from last season looks like it which is a huge worry. Also if Ridenton could never play CM and Johnny K never play LB again that would be great

id be ok if he played Johnny K at CM and Ridenton at LB.

then sub Jackson on for both of them.

[StannyCFCJET]

id be ok if he played Johnny K at CM and Ridenton at LB.

then sub Jackson on for both of them.

Ernie is that you? If so can you change our style of play

[plague]

Ernie is that you?

my brother if you've ever seen me at the Rhino or the coke dealer you'd know im not a man that hangs onto cash like a Scot.
Actually anyone gonna be in Melbourne early Jan come to the Rhino and Crown im due for a night out.

[Aegon]

my brother if you've ever seen me at the Rhino or the coke dealer you'd know im not a man that hangs onto cash like a Scot.
Actually anyone gonna be in Melbourne early Jan come to the Rhino and Crown im due for a night out.

I’m just going to assume we have walked past each other at these spots without knowing who the other really was.....

[plague]

I’m just going to assume we have walked past each other at these spots without knowing who the other really was.....

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[Couscous]

I saw this and the Western v Glory game. The gulf in quality between the two matches makes me sad

[Hunter403]

We looked better when we got Ugarkovic on the ball in the second half.

Ridenton can't play again. Ever. If he does then Ernie is taking the piss

[StannyCFCJET]

We looked better when we got Ugarkovic on the ball in the second half.

Ridenton can't play again. Ever. If he does then Ernie is taking the piss

Ernie favourite is seems so expect he will play

[MFKS]

Firstly

Did anyone else see the Gypo women pushing 50/60 who was walking around with no pants on in downtown GypoHQ just prior to kick off

FMD
Can't say I was shocked

As foe the game

Lets call a spade a spade

The Gypos are shit they got a better keeper now than they had when BK was there but they still getting the wooden spoon as they are still honking bad

As for us Bert has to be fired surely now??

Unable to beat these ****s should be a sackable offence
Absolutely disgraceful if he is still employed by Monday morning

As for our players

Fitzgerald is shit I am calling it now. Complete waste of ****ing space
Arroyo is honking FFS we had him here all off season and he can't run out 90 mins FFS What are we doing fitness wise with players ?
Gypo Miller is wasted at FB play him at RW and make Hoffman play FB. The bloke is 5 x a threat of Hoff and Fitzgerald combined and we are making the ****s defend WTF for

As for the game defensively we were sound. Was a great finish for their goal and they rarely threatened but FFS it is the Gypos and they had Matt Simon up front
Our midfield defensively were shit house.And it all starts with positional play. Dimis is miles away from Ridenton and Sugar who are also too far away from Fitzuseless and Hoff. The amount of times we got outnumbered in midfield scraps was a ****ing joke. Defensively Ridenton is weak always has been but Sugar done his usual going MIA without Kanta present
As for attack 1 ****ing goal from a charity penalty says we are ****ing shit

Lets just pencil ourselves in for 8th place at seasons end and stop wasting our ****ing time

[Couscous]

Is 8th the new 7th?

[Frodo]

Oh no, I was unfortunately pre-dispossed yesterday evening and missed this event.... How sad!

To be honest is this really a derby anymore? Half of the players have played for both teams anyway. This is more like a reunion. Just put us out of our misery already.



Also, did anyone cringe at all the pregame "banter" between the CEOs that was clearly organised at their weekly co-meetings? Actually, McKinna probably still has his own office down there to plan our downfall easier.

[The Dunster]

I saw this and the Western v Glory game. The gulf in quality between the two matches makes me sad

Western v Glory was a great game. Diamanti looks like he's going to absolutely destroy this league - fabulous player. However, Berisha looks like he's lost 20 yards of pace.

[The Dunster]

Oh no, I was unfortunately pre-dispossed yesterday evening and missed this event.... How sad!

To be honest is this really a derby anymore? Half of the players have played for both teams anyway. This is more like a reunion. Just put us out of our misery already.



Also, did anyone cringe at all the pregame "banter" between the CEOs that was clearly organised at their weekly co-meetings? Actually, McKinna probably still has his own office down there to plan our downfall easier.

Every Jets training session is a derby these days.

[furns]

what game were you guys watching? Fitz and Millar both did well, looked to get the ball and barrel down a wing
Arroyo's problem was they were constantly playing him the wrong ball. He's not Dukes ffs lobbing high balls for him to get with his back to goal and with two defenders on him isnt his game. He needs through balls and balls over the top of the defence for him to use his pace to run on to. We start giving him the right service he'll be fine.
All those whinging about Ridenton, he was there because Kanta wasn't.
We immediately looked better with Burns in that LB role, Johnny K should be next to Stevie UG when Kanta isnt available.

[StannyCFCJET]

what game were you guys watching? Fitz and Millar both did well, looked to get the ball and barrel down a wing
Arroyo's problem was they were constantly playing him the wrong ball. He's not Dukes ffs lobbing high balls for him to get with his back to goal and with two defenders on him isnt his game. He needs through balls and balls over the top of the defence for him to use his pace to run on to. We start giving him the right service he'll be fine.
All those whinging about Ridenton, he was there because Kanta wasn't.
We immediately looked better with Burns in that LB role, Johnny K should be next to Stevie UG when Kanta isnt available.

Arroyo was not fit and it was so obvious and hindered his game. Millar was poor the first 30 mins. Ridenton didn't have to play Thurgate and Langois were fit

[turbojetfireV8]

NBN match wrap without the audio (hence not really a wrap up at all)
http://video.nbnnews.com.au/newcastlevcentralcoast201019.mp4
They did have more on the game after the segment above but I can't see it on their site

[plague]

We immediately looked better with Burns in that LB role, Johnny K should be next to Stevie UG when Kanta isnt available.

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[Jetmaster]

what game were you guys watching? Fitz and Millar both did well, looked to get the ball and barrel down a wing
Arroyo's problem was they were constantly playing him the wrong ball. He's not Dukes ffs lobbing high balls for him to get with his back to goal and with two defenders on him isnt his game. He needs through balls and balls over the top of the defence for him to use his pace to run on to. We start giving him the right service he'll be fine.
All those whinging about Ridenton, he was there because Kanta wasn't.
We immediately looked better with Burns in that LB role, Johnny K should be next to Stevie UG when Kanta isnt available.

100% what I saw.

[380]

Once again the opening game of a season for us and Bert has learnt jack shite when it comes to selecting his LB,Johny K was never in the game.

I said at the time i was underwhelmed at the signing of Ridenton and nothing has changed. The bloke is as weak as piss on the ball. I would back my 7 year old niece to disposess him of the ball and put him on his ass. Ridenton would have one of the worst completion rates for passes this league has ever seen. Why the f&*% we are wasting a visa spot on this player i will never know. I hear there are direct flights from up the road to get across the ditch these days then get him on one Stat !!!!!!. Sorry Bert we ain't got the resources to be playing favorites on blokes who are just not good enough.

No secret i don't think Fitzgerald is good enough for this level after suiting up for half the clubs in the competition ( sorry Fitzy supporters but they are the facts ) but he was not our worst on the night, His instinct to just go forward was good but as we have seen with Fitzgerald club after club he is fast and that is it end of section. I agree totally with some of the sentiment toward Arroyo, Just because the bloke is tall does not mean high balls are the go all the time. I want him in a running race toward goal with ball on the ground turning around slow defenders who can't catch him all day.

Anyways i think it was pretty clear without the footballing smarts of Hoolahan the sort of player who like Jeffers when he was here just see the game seconds before others and because of that vision can control the speed of the game we are going to struggle. If Bert is fair dinkum Johny K and Ridenton will be on the bench at best next weekend. A home game and a tired Adelaide this is not time for sentiment and favoritism Bert just put the best bloody 11 we have available on the park.

[MFKS]

Nick Fitzuseless played well??

First half ball comes across the box he is 8 yards out central to goal and he takes a touch away from goal cutting the angle down and allowing a man to cover
A REAL FOOTBALLER TAKES IT 1ST TIME

Second half a cross comes to the back stick and he has the chance to bury a winner and he waits and waits and waits and waits and the shot is blocked
The ball was lobbed into the box from the right by Miller from memory

A REAL FOOTBALLER MOVES TO THE BALL AND TAKES IT EARLY


This guy showed exactly why he has been rejected by 4 HAL clubs already

He isn't good enough even for us

The fact we have signed him is a glaring indictment on our level of ambition

No drama if we gonna do things on the cheap but if that the case let's go find some young guy and give him a go like we did with Jowic or Johnny K rather than get some recycled player who ain't any good

The bloke will have one decent game this season for us

The rest of the time he will be an abject failure as he was last night

Miller was as others have said poor to start with but as the game went on looked our most likely threat

The chipped passes to Arroyo agree was shit

But that we were guilty of all over the park
FFS at one stage in the first half with the field spread Moss chipped one 40 yards to Sugar in the centre circle. Hospital pass putting it bluntly

Ridentons passing ain't shit. It the best part of his game

[turbojetfireV8]

Ridentons passing ain't shit. It the best part of his game

But his game is shit, so by logical extension it is correct to assert his passing is too, even if you spend most of your time watching it from between your fingers as some of us do because it's that bad...

[Jetkel]

Thought NTS was close to our best. Millar warmed into it after a slow start, while Fitz was direct with the ball - something we desperately require. I honestly couldn't give a **** who played for the gypos, if someone puts on our shirt & gives it a red hot crack I'll get behind them regardless of their CV. It's a salary capped league, blokes go where they can get a job, we all would.

It was our first game of the season, we got a point from our rivals away from home. CCM will be a decent middle tier side this year, they really should of taken points from WSW on the road who comfortably accounted for Victory away from home. We wasted a couple of opportunities? Shock me. They must all be shit. We aren't watching the EPL here.

[Aegon]

Thought NTS was close to our best. Millar warmed into it after a slow start, while Fitz was direct with the ball - something we desperately require. I honestly couldn't give a **** who played for the gypos, if someone puts on our shirt & gives it a red hot crack I'll get behind them regardless of their CV. It's a salary capped league, blokes go where they can get a job, we all would.

It was our first game of the season, we got a point from our rivals away from home. CCM will be a decent middle tier side this year, they really should of taken points from WSW on the road who comfortably accounted for Victory away from home. We wasted a couple of opportunities? Shock me. They must all be shit. We aren't watching the EPL here.

Agree 100% with everything you said apart from defending Ridenton :)

I actually thought Fitzgerald did well. He didn't do anything amazing but he worked his arse off trying to get in the right spots.

[StannyCFCJET]

Fitzy's defensive work rate was awesome

[plague]

Thought NTS was close to our best.

agree here. we always do well with lumbering strikers that rely on balls getting lobbed into the box, its why we've always owned Simons gypo bitch ass.

Thought Ridenton started well, thought Miller started really poorly.
Didnt have a problem with Fitzgerald and thought the team made very little effort to get Arroyo into the game. he was out and about but man we went nowhere near his strengths. Everyone gonna blame Dimi for that, but i wont.

Id almost have no prob with him trying Johnny K and Rideton at 6 and 8 and push Ugabooga up further and get Dimi out wide again. Ive more faith in Ugabooga finding Arroyo than anyone else on this team who isnt Wessi.
in the end we didnt win, and we need to beat teams like the gypos to have any hope of finals.
The same teams are gonna give us issues this year like Adelaide, Sydney, City and Phoenix. Add in Perth and there wont be too many spare spots at the end of the year.

on the positive side Victory being utter trash this year and only having Robbie Kruse to call on for help is a real turn of events.

Nabbout still gonna score 6 on us but anyway.

Still undefeated though.
Still winless though.
Scored in every match.
Cant keep a clean sheet.
Wheres the damn panic button.

[pv4]

Stevie G & Dimi were by far our best players IMO.

Boogs and NTS were so, so classy and solid. It will be so hard, yet again, for Jackson to break those 2 up.

I liked the output from both Millar & Fitz, and can definitely see the more they gel with the team the more they will both cause trouble for the opposition.

I would assume most people would put a selection of Steve, Dimi, Millar and NTS if asked for a 3,2,1.

Arroyo will be a wasted spot if we don't look to play him in behind, which we practically never did on Saturday.

In the Jerkstream podcast Ernie mentioned Bobby Burns was on par with Vujica in being a fringe player currently, and that it would be between him & JohnnyK as starting left back. Judging off Johnny's performance on the wkend, if Ernie doesn't feel comfortable with Burns starting then I see our only reasonable move is to put Hoff back there.

[MFKS]

Stevie G & Dimi were by far our best players IMO.

Boogs and NTS were so, so classy and solid. It will be so hard, yet again, for Jackson to break those 2 up.

I liked the output from both Millar & Fitz, and can definitely see the more they gel with the team the more they will both cause trouble for the opposition.

I would assume most people would put a selection of Steve, Dimi, Millar and NTS if asked for a 3,2,1.

Arroyo will be a wasted spot if we don't look to play him in behind, which we practically never did on Saturday.

In the Jerkstream podcast Ernie mentioned Bobby Burns was on par with Vujica in being a fringe player currently, and that it would be between him & JohnnyK as starting left back. Judging off Johnny's performance on the wkend, if Ernie doesn't feel comfortable with Burns starting then I see our only reasonable move is to put Hoff back there.

Hoffman has to go back to Right Back

It is scandalous playing Miller at FB with weaker players playing in front of him in the wide attacking roles
The bloke is arguably our biggest threat going forward

Having him at RW would see the rival Left Back never venture forward and their Left Wing would also be asked to run back a lot and assist

Until we have a better option at RW then it is a crime to play Miller at RB


Almost as dumb as that guy who played Leaky G at Left Back when he was the best player in our shitty side

[Jetkel]

Millars going to be a quality fullback & a real threat for us. Not sure why you'd want to take him out of the position he was signed to play in & move him to an unfamiliar position after one game. A game where he played well, albeit after a nervy start, & our wingers also looked capable.

[380]

Winger not wingers , You know what i mean LOL.

[MFKS]

Millars going to be a quality fullback & a real threat for us. Not sure why you'd want to take him out of the position he was signed to play in & move him to an unfamiliar position after one game. A game where he played well, albeit after a nervy start, & our wingers also looked capable.

Because he is our best option at RW

Why would you play him at RB when you could have him more of a threat up the park and we have adequate options to play RB ??

You play your best players where they can be most effective on the park for you

[Jetkel]

Because he is our best option at RW

Why would you play him at RB when you could have him more of a threat up the park and we have adequate options to play RB ??

You play your best players where they can be most effective on the park for you

What do you base that on? One game?

[Frodo]

What do you base that on? One game?

Just before you get truth bombed by the membah. You know Millar played in the league last year don't you? They may not have looked like it, but that team in yellow actually played in the HAL last year.

[plague]

Just before you get truth bombed by the membah. You know Millar played in the league last year don't you? They may not have looked like it, but that team in yellow actually played in the HAL last year.

pffffft.
Jetkel is correct.
Millar has played only one game in the HAL.
We are the first club hes ever played for.


Sorry Frodo but you've fallen for #fakenews

[Frodo]

pffffft.
Jetkel is correct.
Millar has played only one game in the HAL.
We are the first club hes ever played for.


Sorry Frodo but you've fallen for #fakenews

Nope, he doesn't get away from his disgraceful past that easily. Until he single-handedly wins us the ACL he's a Gypo scumbag. Same goes for the rest of them. Anyone who says otherwise can go back to their relocatable home and think about what they've done.

[plague]

Nope, he doesn't get away from his disgraceful past that easily. Until he single-handedly wins us the ACL he's a Gypo scumbag. Same goes for the rest of them. Anyone who says otherwise can go back to their relocatable home and think about what they've done.

not sure what you're getting at here Frodo?
Surely the Jets wouldnt sign a player from out most hated rivals?
what sort of CEO would permit that?


im gonna reset my modem and check my research. i just cant bring myself to believe we are infested with gypos.

[Frodo]

not sure what you're getting at here Frodo?
Surely the Jets wouldnt sign a player from out most hated rivals?
what sort of CEO would permit that?


im gonna reset my modem and check my research. i just cant bring myself to believe we are infested with gypos.

Actually good point, my good friend Stanny said he trusted McKinna. That's about as good a reference as I'll get round these parts. Sorry for my indiscretion.

[380]

What do you base that on? One game?



At one point in time there was discussion about moving him further up the park down at the scum, This is not a new concept. He would probably be about the only former gypo scum we have on our books at present who could play a decent game further up the park.

[StannyCFCJET]

Actually good point, my good friend Stanny said he trusted McKinna. That's about as good a reference as I'll get round these parts. Sorry for my indiscretion.

Apology accepted. Don't do it again

[MFKS]

At one point in time there was discussion about moving him further up the park down at the scum, This is not a new concept. He would probably be about the only former gypo scum we have on our books at present who could play a decent game further up the park.

Simple thing is this

Is he better in that role than Hoffman??

I am saying yes without hesitation

Who else can play there better than Hoffman

Other than Dimi who is playing at 10 and Jowic who is on sabbatical then it is a pretty simple decision that Miller is our best option at RW

I also think Hoffman will be much better suited at RB. Defensively he is pretty sound in that role

[plague]

To be fair the Hoff is a better striker than our bloke at the moment too.
Wont be upset if he gets pushed either up the park or down the park.

the one true Jets libero.