19/20 HAL Round 5 | Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory | Sat 9/11/19 1700

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2019/20 Match day 5 Newcastle Jets v Perth Glory

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 44 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 42 occasions in the A-League and on 2 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 8, Glory Wins - 28, Drawn - 8


In Newcastle – 23 matches.
Jets Wins - 5, Glory Wins - 14, Drawn - 4
In Perth - 21 matches
Jets Wins - 3, Glory Wins - 14, Drawn - 4

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9095
Average Away A-League Crowd - 9116

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 45, Glory - 85
In Newcastle -
Jets – 25, Glory - 44

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 14, Glory - 28

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 91 (86 yellow, 5 red), Glory 69 (64 yellow, 5 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 0 - Perth Glory 1 (Franjic 65') at HBF Stadium, A-League, Round 25, Season 2018/19

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Match day 25

Newcastle JetsPerth Glory
Glen MossLiam Reddy
John KoutroumbisIvan Franjic
Nigel BoogaardShane Lowry
Nikolai Topor-StanleyMatthew Spiranovic
Ivan VujicaDino Djulbic
Ben KantarovskiJason Davidson
Steven UgarkovicNeil Kilkenny
Dimitri PetratosJuande
Joe ChampnessDiego Castro
Matthew RidentonAndrew Keogh
Roy O'DonovanJoel Chianese



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Haliti 13’, Brockie 54’, Petrovski 68’Penalty, Petrovski 69’) – Glory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Midweek Round 1, Season 2010/11, 10/02/2011.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 (Trifunovic 14’) – Glory 6 (Harold 24', Castro 45', Mullen 48' o.g., Harold 54', Grant 74', Castro 88'), Round 16, Season 2015/16 at Hunter Stadium, 24/01/2016.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (6)
Glory - Jamie Harnwell (7)



2019/20 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss33002700000
2Bobby Burns1010450000
3Jason Hoffman33012620000
4Nigel Boogaard33002700020
5Ben Kantarovski2020670000
6Steven Ugarkovic33012480000
8Wes Hoolahan000000000
9Abdiel Arroyo33022411000
10Dimitri Petratos33002701110
11Nick Fitzgerald32111770000
14Kaine Sheppard000000000
16Matt Millar000000000
18John Koutroumbis33012250000
19Kosta Petratos000000000
20Lewis Italiano000000000
22Lachlan Jackson000000000
23Matthew Ridenton33002700000
25Jack Simmons000000000
28Patrick Langlois000000000
31Maki Petratos101080000
32Angus Thurgate3121770010
40Noah James000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley33002700000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 3 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Tony Popovic - 3 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 6 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 4 losses = 16% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (3 wins, 6 drawn and 7 losses = 19% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 4 losses = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No matches
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)

Perth Glory Coach Record – Tony Popovic 61% win ratio (11 wins, 4 drawn, 3 losses)

[StannyCFCJET]

Ive got bad vibes another big loss to Perth at home.

[plague]

Perth to score in first 10mins as usual.
After that, turgid crap from both teams for 80mins.


Sack erryone. .

[MFKS]

Jeterpool

Just for shits and giggles can you list in your stats somewhere when the last time we beat the opponent

I think it be great for evry time we play Perth we can see we have not beaten them in Newy since 1948etc

[StannyCFCJET]

Jeterpool

Just for shits and giggles can you list in your stats somewhere when the last time we beat the opponent

I think it be great for evry time we play Perth we can see we have not beaten them in Newy since 1948etc

17/18 season, Johhny K volley 90 something minute

[MFKS]

Ive got bad vibes another big loss to Perth at home.

You are still living in denial about this club

If Perth are paying anything $1.01 and up this Saturday get on it

[MFKS]

17/18 season, Johhny K volley 90 something minute



But when was the last time we won at home against them

From memory I am thinking 2 goals from Brockie in about a minute in maybe 2012 or something like that
Been ****ing ages

[StannyCFCJET]

But when was the last time we won at home against them

From memory I am thinking 2 goals from Brockie in about a minute in maybe 2012 or something like that
Been ****ing ages

Yeah Kasey Wherman set up one with a great pass

[StannyCFCJET]

You are still living in denial about this club

If Perth are paying anything $1.01 and up this Saturday get on it

Last time I bet on Perth against the jerks we actually won

[Jeterpool]

Jeterpool

Just for shits and giggles can you list in your stats somewhere when the last time we beat the opponent

I think it be great for evry time we play Perth we can see we have not beaten them in Newy since 1948etc

Yup
Will put it up tomorrow

[Bon]

Last time I bet on Perth against the jerks we actually won

Well, then its a win win Stanny!
Sling all your cheddar on Perth.. They win, you win.. They lose, we all win (including you!)..

[380]

Last time I bet on Perth against the jerks we actually won

If you having another wager then best you check with Bert first and see who he is backing. If he selecting Johny K at LB and starting Ridenton then you know he putting this months bottle tops on Perth.

[The Dunster]

If you having another wager then best you check with Bert first and see who he is backing. If he selecting Johny K at LB and starting Ridenton then you know he putting this months bottle tops on Perth.

Perth have a real problem defending against pace which Ernie needs to exploit by selecting our quicker players.

The Jets on the other-hand have problems defending against both fast and slow players which will make selections an absolute nightmare for Poppa.

Jets to win.

[plague]

The Jets on the other-hand have problems defending against both fast and slow players which will make selections an absolute nightmare for Poppa.


and tall and short players.
and fat and skinny players.
and dumb and smart players.
and hairy and bald players.



(did i miss anyone?)

[Jeterpool]

and tall and short players.
and fat and skinny players.
and dumb and smart players.
and hairy and bald players.



(did i miss anyone?)

Good and bad

[A.J.]

Perth paying $2.32 on beteasy. It's like having a license to print money

[Bon]

Perth paying $2.32 on beteasy. It's like having a license to print money

Wow, I'm only seeing $2.10 on Sportsbet.. Might see if I can somehow boost this.. haha
How on earth are we only paying $3.25???? Mental..

[plague]

Wow, I'm only seeing $2.10 on Sportsbet.. Might see if I can somehow boost this.. haha
How on earth are we only paying $3.25???? Mental..

i just backed the truck up. it prob stuffed your odds. sorry.

[MFKS]

Wow, I'm only seeing $2.10 on Sportsbet.. Might see if I can somehow boost this.. haha
How on earth are we only paying $3.25???? Mental..

If we win it will be because Perth Glory players got a heap on this $3.25

[Superdylan]

I once put $500 on Perth to beat us and Newcastle won 2-1.

Not overly keen however perth haven't got off to the greatest start. Remember we also played probably one of the best teams last weekend at their home ground.

Still think it will be a 3-1 win to Perth.

[Jeterpool]

Hopefully there's some energy, some atmosphere coming from the stands this week. It was very apparent there was zero crowd involvement. If we show up with a sense of apathy towards the Match, can we really blame the players when they put in a similar level of effort?

It's not all a one way street. Both feed off each other.

[StannyCFCJET]

Hopefully there's some energy, some atmosphere coming from the stands this week. It was very apparent there was zero crowd involvement. If we show up with a sense of apathy towards the Match, can we really blame the players when they put in a similar level of effort?

It's not all a one way street. Both feed off each other.

What's been their excuse the past years when there was support and we didn't make finals week after week

[Jeterpool]

What's been their excuse the past years when there was support and we didn't make finals week after week

Their ability? Their tactics?

[plague]

Hopefully there's some energy, some atmosphere coming from the stands this week. It was very apparent there was zero crowd involvement. If we show up with a sense of apathy towards the Match, can we really blame the players when they put in a similar level of effort?

It's not all a one way street. Both feed off each other.

these dudes better not be doing any of this for me.
they shouldnt give one shit whether im happy or not.
they should be playing for themselves and no one else.

[StannyCFCJET]

these dudes better not be doing any of this for me.
they shouldnt give one shit whether im happy or not.
they should be playing for themselves and no one else.

Well that clearly doesnt happen every week

[StannyCFCJET]

So whats the odds of Ernie's only change 2moz being Thurgate for Fitzy or Kanta

[MFKS]

these dudes better not be doing any of this for me.
they shouldnt give one shit whether im happy or not.
they should be playing for themselves and no one else.

Maybe that one reason why we shit

Too many Vince not playing for us or each other but playing for themselves

[plague]

Maybe that one reason why we shit

Too many Vince not playing for us or each other but playing for themselves

i dont do this foz work for any of you.
i do it for me.
and the level of excellence has never waned.

Jets should learn from that.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ernie is trying to get sacked, Deadset. No other explanation

[furns]

Boogs out with a groin strain, jackson in to replace

[The Dunster]

Boogs out with a groin strain, jackson in to replace

I can see Ernie sitting Jackson on the bench and using Kanta or Katroumbis at CB.

[furns]

I can see Ernie sitting Jackson on the bench and using Kanta or Katroumbis at CB.nope, Kanta on bench, Lachie in starting lineup

[StannyCFCJET]

Once again no urgency to put pressure on the guy with the ball. Castro could stroll right through

[Frodo]

We're definitely gonna win the league now.

[belchardo]

Nice finish from hoff.

[furns]

Much improved, fairly even half of football.
And that Stevie UG pass for Hoffy's goal = :brrr:

[StannyCFCJET]

Just gotta up the intensity off the ball at times and more chances will come. Boogs will find it hard to come back in with how well Jackson is going as well. As long as Ernie is fairdinkum

[The Dunster]

Fitzgypo is useless. He will cost us the game for not converting those chances.

[StannyCFCJET]

Fitzgypo is useless. He will cost us the game for not converting those chances.

His workrate and movement is good which is better then the other players for that role atm

[furns]

Stevie has been absolutely everywhere this game
Lucky Ikon hit the crossbar there.........

[StannyCFCJET]

Useless. How can professional footballers misplace soo many passes or not look before passes

[Couscous]

Ffs

[Jetkel]

His workrate and movement is good which is better then the other players for that role atm

His off the ball work is fantastic, as is his workrate & positive movement with the ball. His finishing is just.... very Newcastle Jets.

I’m a fan of the kid, lovely fella too, but needs to grab those opportunities. I think he still can, needs to bang in 1 & then hopefully his confidence lifts. Although I feel like people have probably been saying this about him for the last 5 years.

[Jeterpool]

Player of the Match voting

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8QMF28F

[StannyCFCJET]

Useless. How can professional footballers misplace soo many passes or not look before passes

We played well. I'm just sick of playing well and still losing or drawing

[baldrick]

Player of the Match voting

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/KZF8F7Y

No Arroyo ?

[Couscous]

Arroyo was pretty good.

[baldrick]

Arroyo was pretty good.

I was gonna vote for him.

[Jeterpool]

No Arroyo ?

Yeah the survey stuffed up when I added the reserved.

Use this link

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8QMF28F

[Grimario]

Yeah the survey stuffed up when I added the reserved.

Use this link

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8QMF28F

The Survey is a poor nickname when you already have one.

And I just blamed pv4 the other week. I am pretty sure it was his fault.

[Jetmaster]

Corresponding game last season Perth got in front and wasted interminable time to get the result.
We were careless and didn't shut the game down, someone needed to put their foot on the ball.
And JK got caught ball watching again.

[Jeterpool]

The Survey is a poor nickname when you already have one.

And I just blamed pv4 the other week. I am pretty sure it was his fault.

Unfortunately survey was my idea and is mine to manage. All mistakes are my fault so I've got to cop the criticism and blame

[Aegon]

His workrate and movement is good which is better then the other players for that role atm

Totally agree with this, he ran his arse off all game in attack and defence. One of our best tonight.

[Aegon]

We played well tonight, just lacked the same pressure in the second half. Surprised it took Perth as long to score as it did TBF.

Can anyone else take free kicks and corners though? Diminis way too wayward.

[StannyCFCJET]

We played well tonight, just lacked the same pressure in the second half. Surprised it took Perth as long to score as it did TBF.

Can anyone else take free kicks and corners though? Diminis way too wayward.

Hasnt scored 1 free kick since joining the club, 100% time for someone else to take em

[MFKS]

Why does everyone think we played well tonight??

To me we were 2nd best all game

We did defend well and kept Perth to only a few chances

But the reality is on the balance if play we were lucky to get a point

On another day our opponent puts more than 1 past us

As for Fitzuseless what can I say . Not a professional footballer at HAL level says 4 other clubs and he proved it again today

We did look much better in attack playing on the counter more than we have in the last 18 months
It was a joy to not have to see Simi take 4000 touches a half for a change

[plague]

i have some thoughts.

1. Jackson played well. Better than Boogaard has been all season. Amazing what picking a player in his preferred position will do. please take note all the Johnny K haterz.

2. Perth were poor. Jets were poor. Not much else to carry on about,

3. Castro was out of the game by 30 mins. Thought Johnny K did as well as anyone on him. Yep he popped up for the goal. but in games past he has owned us, today didnt think he was anything special.

4. The big man up front got through some work. Chased, ran, closed down, attacked. My goodness what a world we could live in seeing Wessi look after him. Made so may clever decisions on the ball, when to play through when t hold up. think hes a real clever player. he has no help at the moment.

5. Ugabooga is still our best player and its not even close. Id rather a bloke fail trying something than fail by being nothing. Ugabooga plays forward, he attacks, he wants to get goals. it doesnt always come off, but no one else on that team even bothers to try.

6. Dimi gets himself into space a lot i dont think his teammates know where he is though. might be something to look into at training.

7. When you have a man advantage the opposition coach usually picks a player you are ok with leaving the ball with. there is nothing more embarrassing in football than being the bloke that the opposition coach doesnt worry about. tonight that was Miller and he proved Popovic right. bloke was the weakest link on that team. my goodness the last 15 mins from him were horrible.

8. Active was good, crowd was poor. Gypo CEO needs to get to work.

[StannyCFCJET]

i have some thoughts.

1. Jackson played well. Better than Boogaard has been all season. Amazing what picking a player in his preferred position will do. please take note all the Johnny K haterz.

2. Perth were poor. Jets were poor. Not much else to carry on about,

3. Castro was out of the game by 30 mins. Thought Johnny K did as well as anyone on him. Yep he popped up for the goal. but in games past he has owned us, today didnt think he was anything special.

4. The big man up front got through some work. Chased, ran, closed down, attacked. My goodness what a world we could live in seeing Wessi look after him. Made so may clever decisions on the ball, when to play through when t hold up. think hes a real clever player. he has no help at the moment.

5. Ugabooga is still our best player and its not even close. Id rather a bloke fail trying something than fail by being nothing. Ugabooga plays forward, he attacks, he wants to get goals. it doesnt always come off, but no one else on that team even bothers to try.

6. Dimi gets himself into space a lot i dont think his teammates know where he is though. might be something to look into at training.

7. When you have a man advantage the opposition coach usually picks a player you are ok with leaving the ball with. there is nothing more embarrassing in football than being the bloke that the opposition coach doesnt worry about. tonight that was Miller and he proved Popovic right. bloke was the weakest link on that team. my goodness the last 15 mins from him were horrible.

8. Active was good, crowd was poor. Gypo CEO needs to get to work.

All good points but Johnny K will always only play FB while Ernie is in charge and no matter how good he plays it unbalances the team

[plague]

Also:
Griff, Stu, Jobe, Kanta, Hoff.

Sit yo ass down before replying.

[baldrick]

i have some thoughts.

1. Jackson played well. Better than Boogaard has been all season. Amazing what picking a player in his preferred position will do. please take note all the Johnny K haterz.

2. Perth were poor. Jets were poor. Not much else to carry on about,

3. Castro was out of the game by 30 mins. Thought Johnny K did as well as anyone on him. Yep he popped up for the goal. but in games past he has owned us, today didnt think he was anything special.

4. The big man up front got through some work. Chased, ran, closed down, attacked. My goodness what a world we could live in seeing Wessi look after him. Made so may clever decisions on the ball, when to play through when t hold up. think hes a real clever player. he has no help at the moment.

5. Ugabooga is still our best player and its not even close. Id rather a bloke fail trying something than fail by being nothing. Ugabooga plays forward, he attacks, he wants to get goals. it doesnt always come off, but no one else on that team even bothers to try.

6. Dimi gets himself into space a lot i dont think his teammates know where he is though. might be something to look into at training.

7. When you have a man advantage the opposition coach usually picks a player you are ok with leaving the ball with. there is nothing more embarrassing in football than being the bloke that the opposition coach doesnt worry about. tonight that was Miller and he proved Popovic right. bloke was the weakest link on that team. my goodness the last 15 mins from him were horrible.

8. Active was good, crowd was poor. Gypo CEO needs to get to work.


It’s like you’re reading my mind.

[Alton]

Ridenton poor, Agree Arroyo needs Wessi ( where is the injury replacement Laurie) better without Boogard, pick Bobby FFS, put JK at right back, push Millar forward and move Hoff to the left in place of misFitz

[Frodo]

Ridenton poor, Agree Arroyo needs Wessi ( where is the injury replacement Laurie) better without Boogard, pick Bobby FFS, put JK at right back, push Millar forward and move Hoff to the left in place of misFitz

Why was Ridenton poor?

[Grimario]

I think Ridenton has a great football brain but lacks the level of technical ability to pull off some of the things he tries. There were times last night where he had the ball, turned and you could clearly see him SEE the play unfolding and attempt a pass... which then went to Perth.

[Jetkel]

Watching the game again, not sure how anyone can say we played poorly. Disappointed with the result? Absolutely. But our movement especially up front & with Uga pushing through from our half was outstanding.

It Farken peeves me no end when people just hang shit on players/coach/club because it’s the in thing to do, rather than assessing each player without a preconceived idea on how they’ll play. Ridenton & JK had one of the hardest tasks in the league last night restricting Castro & CI, both put in a shift & did a solid job. 1 goal conceded from a goal mouth scramble against that forward line is a terrific result.

Up front, every positive movement forward came through Fitz channel. Should of had a penalty. Links well with Dimi & Arroyo & gets behind the line as good as anyone. Finishing needs to improve but I also don’t think any were gimmes.

Great involvement from Arroyo, Uga was terrific, Moss pulled off a couple of tremendous saves also. Backline was solid.

I enjoyed watching us play yesterday. I don’t think we’re too far off.

[MFKS]

i have some thoughts.

1. Jackson played well. Better than Boogaard has been all season. Amazing what picking a player in his preferred position will do. please take note all the Johnny K haterz.

2. Perth were poor. Jets were poor. Not much else to carry on about,

3. Castro was out of the game by 30 mins. Thought Johnny K did as well as anyone on him. Yep he popped up for the goal. but in games past he has owned us, today didnt think he was anything special.

4. The big man up front got through some work. Chased, ran, closed down, attacked. My goodness what a world we could live in seeing Wessi look after him. Made so may clever decisions on the ball, when to play through when t hold up. think hes a real clever player. he has no help at the moment.

5. Ugabooga is still our best player and its not even close. Id rather a bloke fail trying something than fail by being nothing. Ugabooga plays forward, he attacks, he wants to get goals. it doesnt always come off, but no one else on that team even bothers to try.

6. Dimi gets himself into space a lot i dont think his teammates know where he is though. might be something to look into at training.

7. When you have a man advantage the opposition coach usually picks a player you are ok with leaving the ball with. there is nothing more embarrassing in football than being the bloke that the opposition coach doesnt worry about. tonight that was Miller and he proved Popovic right. bloke was the weakest link on that team. my goodness the last 15 mins from him were horrible.

8. Active was good, crowd was poor. Gypo CEO needs to get to work.

5 Your points on Sugar

What he got now 3 goals in 5 years here so he ain't much use in front of goal

My main issue is he constantly fails to do his job as a DM

We conceeded so much possession and territory in that game down to our midfield not controlling the game
The bloke is constantly exposed as not being anything without Kanta by his side

This constantly keeps happening with this bloke yet people still want to sing his praises

What exactly great did he do yesterday besides have our side playing on the counter getting put under defensive pressure from minute 1 and keeping our attackers running around chasing the opposition all day??

If that is considered a good performance from him then got help us as it made his teammates jobs infinitely harder

[Jetmaster]

So who plays striker now the one we found is not available next week?

JK is a fine MF and serviceable CB....he is not a LB. I don't want to see the kid ruined.

[Frodo]

So who plays striker now the one we found is not available next week?

JK is a fine MF and serviceable CB....he is not a LB. I don't want to see the kid ruined.

He shut down one of the most talented players in the league. He's definitely not getting ruined right now, hes getting valuable game time.

[plague]

What exactly great did he do yesterday besides have our side playing on the counter getting put under defensive pressure from minute 1 and keeping our attackers running around chasing the opposition all day??

If that is considered a good performance from him then got help us as it made his teammates jobs infinitely harder


ill happily answer your question as long as you pay me the courtesy of re-reading my post first.

Because clearly you dont understand what i wrote.

[380]

Why was Ridenton poor?


It took him all of the first 30 seconds of the game to perform his first turnover among many. He is as weak as water on the ball and couldn't tackle my 14 year old niece. He is poor every game and the only he is a professional footballer is because Ernie has a soft spot for him.

I doubt any other club in the league would take him if we offered him up.

[Jetmaster]

He shut down one of the most talented players in the league. He's definitely not getting ruined right now, hes getting valuable game time.

I can see him being another Nick Cowburn. And that is the second time this season he has been caught out by a diagonal over his head to someone tracking behind. This led to the scramble and goal.

He did same against Roar last season and if he is staying there is a fault that needs to be fixed. True his overall game was better yesterday.

[MFKS]

ill happily answer your question as long as you pay me the courtesy of re-reading my post first.

Because clearly you dont understand what i wrote.

I have read your post

My question still remains

[MFKS]

I can see him being another Nick Cowburn. And that is the second time this season he has been caught out by a diagonal over his head to someone tracking behind. This led to the scramble and goal.

He did same against Roar last season and if he is staying there is a fault that needs to be fixed. True his overall game was better yesterday.

That is also a reflection on the poor coaching is Oz

They treat Fullback as an after thought and just dump any guy in there

GVE done it with Matt Thompson and Dappuzzo

Arnie does it with Blue Aids and now Socceroos picking Zullo and Rhyan Grant etc

We have had Hoffman Lachlan Jackson Cowburn Brillante Pepper etc play there over the years also

It is a specialist role and influences your attack and defence

Look at how much the Scousers get out of Robertson and Alexander Arnold in both attack and defence in their success of late

[Frodo]

It took him all of the first 30 seconds of the game to perform his first turnover among many. He is as weak as water on the ball and couldn't tackle my 14 year old niece. He is poor every game and the only he is a professional footballer is because Ernie has a soft spot for him.

I doubt any other club in the league would take him if we offered him up.

Don't agree with most of this. His tackling is better than most, his engine is superb, he reads the game well enough also.


His weaknesses IMO are that he can't move the ball quickly enough (hence why he gets caught on the ball) and he lacks composure.

We play without a defined DM role, those two just move independently to close up spaces. It works sometimes, and other times a team will wait for us to move and then take the space we've left. But we don't have a fit Kanta to sit in front of the back 4 and defend for 90 mins so Ernie is just hoping we can create turnovers further up the pitch and get that ball forward quickly. Look at us once we get pegged back and have to defend in a low block. Everyone runs around aimlessly chasing the ball. That's not Ridentons fault. He's doing his job fine at the moment. He just looks poor sometimes cause he's beside one of the best in Uga and he gets caught with the ball which looks very very amateurish.

[MFKS]

Don't agree with most of this. His tackling is better than most, his engine is superb, he reads the game well enough also.


His weaknesses IMO are that he can't move the ball quickly enough (hence why he gets caught on the ball) and he lacks composure.

We play without a defined DM role, those two just move independently to close up spaces. It works sometimes, and other times a team will wait for us to move and then take the space we've left. But we don't have a fit Kanta to sit in front of the back 4 and defend for 90 mins so Ernie is just hoping we can create turnovers further up the pitch and get that ball forward quickly. Look at us once we get pegged back and have to defend in a low block. Everyone runs around aimlessly chasing the ball. That's not Ridentons fault. He's doing his job fine at the moment. He just looks poor sometimes cause he's beside one of the best in Uga and he gets caught with the ball which looks very very amateurish.

So some questions on this issue

How many times did he get caught on the ball
How many times did he give away possession

Where on the field also are these things happening

Because I backing the numbers or significance is anywhere near as high or as large as the Ridenton fanboys are claiming

[plague]

I have read your post

My question still remains

ok cool, so seeing as though your question had nothing to do with my post ill let whoever it is addressed to answer it.

[MFKS]

ok cool, so seeing as though your question had nothing to do with my post ill let whoever it is addressed to answer it.

But it is addressed to you

You are claiming that Sugar is our best player

I am disputing that

His failings as a DM are one reason why we are poor

He is not our best player and far from it

[Grimario]

I actually think his failings as a left back, goal keeper, right winger and striker are why we are poor.

[StannyCFCJET]

But it is addressed to you

You are claiming that Sugar is our best player

I am disputing that

His failings as a DM are one reason why we are poor

He is not our best player and far from it

Ugar is the heart beat of the team

[Frodo]

But it is addressed to you

You are claiming that Sugar is our best player

I am disputing that

His failings as a DM are one reason why we are poor

He is not our best player and far from it

You are mixing up the term "our best player" with "top quality player". Those two things are vastly different.


But Uga is easily our best player right now. He's first name on the teamsheet each week. Also, he is a box to box mid, he's never been a DM. We don't play for control, we play for turnovers and scoring on transition. Ernie has always done it that way.

[plague]

You are mixing up the term "our best player" with "top quality player". Those two things are vastly different.


Thank you kind sir.


One day the people will read the posts before responding.

[MFKS]

You are mixing up the term "our best player" with "top quality player". Those two things are vastly different.


But Uga is easily our best player right now. He's first name on the teamsheet each week. Also, he is a box to box mid, he's never been a DM. We don't play for control, we play for turnovers and scoring on transition. Ernie has always done it that way.

Still not the first name on the teamsheet. Topor and Dimi would be picked before him
He is playing as a DM and isn't playing as a box to box midfielder
3 goals in 100 games or so says he aint

He is not even our best midfielder

Kanta when fit and if fit is superior

[plague]

not sure how much they went on about it on the telly, but that push in the 1st half was certainly a thing wasnt it.

as much as i thought it was a foul and therefore a pen, it would have been pretty soft.

having said that im glad it wasnt overturned by VAR.
am happy for the ref to rule on it and move on. but geez i feel we are owed a tonne of these ones.

[Frodo]

Still not the first name on the teamsheet. Topor and Dimi would be picked before him
He is playing as a DM and isn't playing as a box to box midfielder
3 goals in 100 games or so says he aint

He is not even our best midfielder

Kanta when fit and if fit is superior

Doesn't score goals, therefore is DM? Classic Member logic.

Watch him play, then learn what a DM is and then come back to me and apologise.

We don't play with a CDM or with DMs. We play a midfield that doesn't control a game with the ball. That's Ernie's way. When Kanta plays, who is a CDM by trade, you still see him moving into channels constantly and has he freedom to make a dart into the box when the mood strikes him. He doesn't have a rigid position when we have to ball. Neither does Uga. It leaves us very open when a team has a floating mid, but it means when we do win the ball we always have 4 players available for any attack.


Basically Uga doesn't float your boat because you like football to be played a certain way and he doesn't do that. Nothing wrong with that, but doesn't mean he isn't a good player.

[MFKS]

Doesn't score goals, therefore is DM? Classic Member logic.

Watch him play, then learn what a DM is and then come back to me and apologise.

We don't play with a CDM or with DMs. We play a midfield that doesn't control a game with the ball. That's Ernie's way. When Kanta plays, who is a CDM by trade, you still see him moving into channels constantly and has he freedom to make a dart into the box when the mood strikes him. He doesn't have a rigid position when we have to ball. Neither does Uga. It leaves us very open when a team has a floating mid, but it means when we do win the ball we always have 4 players available for any attack.


Basically Uga doesn't float your boat because you like football to be played a certain way and he doesn't do that. Nothing wrong with that, but doesn't mean he isn't a good player.

We have spent the last 20 months trying to dominate games with possession and not playing counter attacking football
The counter attacking stuff got us to the better end of the table. We then started thibking we coul play football. We can't that why we have struggled

We not playing with DMs
Technically we aren't as neither Ugarkovic or Ridenton are capable yet our coach leaves these two back to protect two ageing CentreBacks
But this more a reflection on their failure in this role

They playing as defensive midfielders everyday of the week. They just inept at it

[Aegon]

Watching the game again, not sure how anyone can say we played poorly. Disappointed with the result? Absolutely. But our movement especially up front & with Uga pushing through from our half was outstanding.

It Farken peeves me no end when people just hang shit on players/coach/club because it’s the in thing to do, rather than assessing each player without a preconceived idea on how they’ll play. Ridenton & JK had one of the hardest tasks in the league last night restricting Castro & CI, both put in a shift & did a solid job. 1 goal conceded from a goal mouth scramble against that forward line is a terrific result.

Up front, every positive movement forward came through Fitz channel. Should of had a penalty. Links well with Dimi & Arroyo & gets behind the line as good as anyone. Finishing needs to improve but I also don’t think any were gimmes.

Great involvement from Arroyo, Uga was terrific, Moss pulled off a couple of tremendous saves also. Backline was solid.

I enjoyed watching us play yesterday. I don’t think we’re too far off.

Well said.

[Aegon]

not sure how much they went on about it on the telly, but that push in the 1st half was certainly a thing wasnt it.

as much as i thought it was a foul and therefore a pen, it would have been pretty soft.

having said that im glad it wasnt overturned by VAR.
am happy for the ref to rule on it and move on. but geez i feel we are owed a tonne of these ones.

Yup, I said the exact same thing after seeing it on the big screen.

[Aegon]

We have spent the last 20 months trying to dominate games with possession and not playing counter attacking football
The counter attacking stuff got us to the better end of the table. We then started thibking we coul play football. We can't that why we have struggled

We not playing with DMs
Technically we aren't as neither Ugarkovic or Ridenton are capable yet our coach leaves these two back to protect two ageing CentreBacks
But this more a reflection on their failure in this role

They playing as defensive midfielders everyday of the week. They just inept at it

I don’t think you’re watching the same games as everyone else!

This week boogs wasnt even playing and topor was bloody superb. I can’t remember ever seeing the Jets play a game trying to dominate possession.

Also, did anyone see Topor overlap down the left in the first half? I was gutted when the pass didn’t get slipped to him in the open :)

[plague]

Stu - 3 goals in 58 games for the Jets.
Ugabooga - 3 goals in 55 games for the Jets.


The second coming indeed................

[Frodo]

We have spent the last 20 months trying to dominate games with possession and not playing counter attacking football
The counter attacking stuff got us to the better end of the table. We then started thibking we coul play football. We can't that why we have struggled

We not playing with DMs
Technically we aren't as neither Ugarkovic or Ridenton are capable yet our coach leaves these two back to protect two ageing CentreBacks
But this more a reflection on their failure in this role

They playing as defensive midfielders everyday of the week. They just inept at it

Don't agree with much of this. Ernie is not and has not ever been a possession style manager. He's still probably telling the players the same things as we did a few years ago, he's just got less talented or very out of form players trying to carry out his game plan. Hoff and Nicky are sitting on the shoulder like Nabbout did, Areola is pressuring from behind midfield. Dimi is on the field... (I have nothing positive to say about Dimi other than its not his fault he's playing, it's Wessi's for getting injured)
I hope we get Kanta back into the centre and move Ridenton into CAM. Ridenton should be able to win us plenty of ball and that would take the defensive burden off Nipples so he can make some runs in behind.

[plague]

also, its generally only mong fans who carry on so much about the little letters next to a players name.

its not like a coach tells a kid to just stand there in his little zone marked off by witches hats.

the goalie is really the only one bound by rules and regulations on his job.

the rest is 10 v 10 and the coach will alter things through the course of the game in order to get goals and a win.

some of these mong fans heads must have exploded back in the days of true liberos like Matthaus, Iniesta and Griff.


hail Griff.

[Couscous]

Areola is pressuring from behind midfield ... the defensive burden off Nipples

Now I'm standing to attention.

[Jeterpool]

Player of the Match voting

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8QMF28F

Player of the Match voting is still open - takes all of 10 seconds.

[Jetkel]

not sure how much they went on about it on the telly, but that push in the 1st half was certainly a thing wasnt it.

as much as i thought it was a foul and therefore a pen, it would have been pretty soft.

having said that im glad it wasnt overturned by VAR.
am happy for the ref to rule on it and move on. but geez i feel we are owed a tonne of these ones.

I thought it was as clear a penalty as they come. Fitz won the tussle, got front position & clearly got pushed in the back by a much bigger man. He fell sideways, you can’t dive at a right angle when running at pace mid stride & off balance. 95% of players let Grant deal with the ball & boot it into the stands without a challenge. He fought for it & should of won us a penalty outta nothing. The only question mark was whether there was a foul in the lead up but they gave a goal kick if I remember correctly, so they didn’t think so.

Also forgot to mention in the earlier post how good Jackson was returning. Top game.

[Jeterpool]

Jetstream Player of the Match, voted by the fans, was Abdiel Arroyo.

[StannyCFCJET]

Jetstream Player of the Match, voted by the fans, was Abdiel Arroyo.

Can't argue with that, Once he gets some proper service he will be even better

[Grimario]

Where's second and third place?

Jackson was pretty good. Didn't he make the league TOTY?

[Jeterpool]

Where's second and third place?

Jackson was pretty good. Didn't he make the league TOTY?

2nd was Ugarkovic
3rd was Jackson

[mic22]

Can't argue with that, Once he gets some proper service he will be even better

I'm afraid when that time comes, he will be well and truly outta here...
It is frustrating to see him being used for long balls with no purpose.
Whenever he's got a chance to use his speed, it shows how good he could be for us if we only stopped clearing every single ball to the opposition.

[StannyCFCJET]

I'm afraid when that time comes, he will be well and truly outta here...
It is frustrating to see him being used for long balls with no purpose.
Whenever he's got a chance to use his speed, it shows how good he could be for us if we only stopped clearing every single ball to the opposition.

If Dimi actually stopped being a hog and focused on playing more for the team at times there is someone who can play a killer ball

[MFKS]

Jetstream Player of the Match, voted by the fans, was Abdiel Arroyo.

Can't believe Ridenton was overlooked

[plague]

Can't believe Ridenton was overlooked

you should get a VPN and go overseas and log in and vote many more times for him.