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Skirt Boy
10-11-2019, 09:29 PM
Seriously it needs to go. How many games are we up to when it's just been utter shite?

Even last nights games whilst it went our way. It's just wrecking the game.

VAR out.

Frodo
10-11-2019, 09:37 PM
Seriously it needs to go. How many games are we up to when it's just been utter shite?

Even last nights games whilst it went our way. It's just wrecking the game.

VAR out.

Isn't VAR your top scorer this season? Surely without him you'd be in the relegation spots?

Skirt Boy
10-11-2019, 11:02 PM
Isn't VAR your top scorer this season? Surely without him you'd be in the relegation spots?

Just goes to show that I recognise shite when I see it.

plague
11-11-2019, 03:45 AM
the 2nd goal to Salah looked lineball did they even go look at it?

Retro Jet
11-11-2019, 09:09 AM
the 2nd goal to Salah looked lineball did they even go look at it?

I saw it after with a poppy wearing panel analysing all incidents (Owen, McManaman + 1)
Looked ok from the VAR image they showed. No armpit anywhere near the thin line of stupidity...

plague
11-11-2019, 09:13 AM
I saw it after with a poppy wearing panel analysing all incidents (Owen, McManaman + 1)
Looked ok from the VAR image they showed. No armpit anywhere near the thin line of stupidity...

Yeah I just fount it weird nothing was said about it at the time. At the first replay commentator said "hint of offside" so I was expecting it to go to the booth.
They either didn't have review it or did immediately and didn't announce it.
Commentators def didn't mention it at the time.

Halftime the boffins on the panel showed it was onside.

As I said in the other thread, refs got all the big calls wrong. No need for VAR.

MFKS
11-11-2019, 09:39 AM
2 handballs and that offside looked suspect too

Liverpool bought Sydney FCs golden pass have they??

plague
11-11-2019, 10:42 AM
2 handballs and that offside looked suspect too

Liverpool bought Sydney FCs golden pass have they??

First handball could have gone either way im happy with the ref to call it (although they never really looked into it coming off Bernardo Silvas hand first who mutes all arguments).
2nd handball never in a million years, especially as they explained post match that the FA have a different interpretation to UEFA in regards to handballs reviewable by VAR. Under the FA regs, it is not a handball.
The offside looked tight, but was proven onside.


Sterlings multiple dives werent rewarded either which is good and correct because he was flat out cheating for a call.

regardless, your point is legit, Liverpool have had a LOT of calls go their way so far, and Citeh have copped some horrors.

Theyd better make it all worth it.

Jetmaster
10-07-2020, 08:55 AM
What a dogs breakfast this morning - all pen decisions appeared wrong to me.

What is the point anymore?

Bremsstrahlung
27-09-2020, 12:25 AM
ManchestVAR United?

Poor Brighton, deserved a point. Silly move at the end undoes 96 minutes of hard work.

Jetmaster
27-09-2020, 10:38 AM
I've given up watching full games - this VAR crap and I have no idea what is a handball anymore. Three decisions in four games and I still don't understand what I saw.

The spirit of the game has been killed off. Football was popular in the 20th century because it had 12 simple rules.

Going the way of the rugby codes and cricket shortform with constantly changing rules.

furns
28-09-2020, 02:05 AM
Its pretty simple - if your arm is away from your torso or above your shoulder its a pen. Unfortunately its taken the "intentional" vs "accidental" debate out of it, any contact is now deemed handball.
Which is ridiculous, the one in the Spurs vs Toon game in stoppage time the player penalised had no idea where the ball was after it ricocheted off big AC's giant forehead as his momentum had him facing away from the ball.

Bremsstrahlung
28-09-2020, 05:37 AM
Yehhh they tried to make it more objective because you can’t really read the players mind and tell if it was intentional or not.

Saw 2 in palace game. Good decision not to award first. Second was 50/50 as his hand was away from body. Think that should be a refs call. If he thought it was a pen live, give it. If he didn’t, don’t.

Then Brighton game when Maupay jumps and attempts a charge down, no play at the ball, easy decision.

I don’t know how they can improve the rule really.
I feel sorry for the ones where 2 players jump to head the ball like Furns said in the spurs toon game. Hands fly everywhere. Especially when it’s in the furthest spot from the goal on the edge of 18.

At least it’s objective when based on arm position. I think there’s too much subjective ness to be consistent to determine accidental or not.
I thought proximity was meant to be accounted for also though?
It’s a hard rule to please everyone.


Like the offside rule constantly changing interpretation with being passive, needing to touch ball, etc.

Jetmaster
28-09-2020, 08:17 AM
The rule for 100 years was the hand deliberately moving towards the ball with intent. End of.....how hard is that to judge?

Mind you, back in the day you were lucky to see more than 1 or 2 pens in a season. I think Souness is right....this stuff is designed to bring more goals and the FIFA generation love it.

Jetmaster
28-09-2020, 09:12 AM
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/handball-rule-soccer-football-fix-tottenham-newcastle-ifab-165144057.html

Aegon
28-09-2020, 02:11 PM
I'm a Newcastle fan and even I think that decision is appalling.

Jetmaster
29-09-2020, 01:53 PM
Rumours that some teams are already having sessions where they practice putting their foot on the ball and flick it up to an arm.

Just tried it in the backyard - I'm in my 50s and it wasn't that hard. Just have to time it right and not take too long.

Bremsstrahlung
29-09-2020, 04:50 PM
Suarez used to do that. Would isolate the defender and flick it up and into them.

Bremsstrahlung
22-11-2020, 08:18 AM
West Brom gonna be feeling very hard done by.
WBA Awarded a pen for contact. Reviewed. Overturned based on a very questionable angle. Commentators adamant it was a pen also.
Then 2 minutes later, MU awarded a pen for handball after mata clips it into a hand that is reasonably close to the body/face.
Keep saves pen, player gets barged into advertising. Free kick given. But wait, keeper moved off his line while everyone’s watching the replay. Retaken and scores.

JSom
23-11-2020, 10:11 PM
Isn't VAR your top scorer this season? Surely without him you'd be in the relegation spots?

Much depends on perception. There are strong athletes who are absolutely not perceived by the public. And the results of such athletes seem to be an accident, not the result of labor. There are cases when the person himself is unpleasant.

boz-monaut
24-11-2020, 09:39 AM
I have no idea what this spam bot is attempting here but it's kind of interesting to read their garbage posts

I'll let it go for a bit longer, or until it does something stupid, and then delete

crazy times that we get this on our godforsaken forum

Bremsstrahlung
21-01-2021, 07:00 AM
Curious about City’s first goal.
He was offside when the initial ball was played forward, mings takes a single touch, player comes back onside to win ball.
City turn, pass, score.
Does he not gain an advantage and become involved with play? Or is a single touch enough to counteract City’s clearance forward?

Is it interpretation as to when the “phase” of city clearing ball forward and when villa are deemed to have control of the ball and it’s fair game.

Bremsstrahlung
31-01-2021, 01:45 PM
Southampton very unlucky.
That’s a handball for mine. Arm away from body, shot on goal, player gains an advantage by having his arm in that position and denies a shot on target.
The only thing about the offside is that I think the AR flagged offside. I’d love to see their testing stats/margin for error on these 3D draw lines across the field. Like, I’d be genuinely impressed if these tight calls are 100% accurate.

I like that the AR flagged though. And last night in MacArthur game the player scored, and the AR correctly flagged it offside afterwards. VAR confirmed offside. Wonder if this is a new directive.
I can’t remember too many instances of allowing play to go on, goal scored, then flagging offside. Feel like they used to just let VAR deal with it.

Bremsstrahlung
28-02-2021, 02:02 PM
Not really VAR problem but that WBA and Brighton game. What a clusterf***.
Free kick. Ref blows whistle to let them take it while keeper setting up wall. Takes kick. Goes in as ref blows whistle again.
Goal disallowed.
Ref thinks about it. Then awards it.
Then VAR overuled because the ball wasn’t over the line when ref blew his whistle again.
Free kick was retaken.