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Jeterpool
12-12-2019, 09:54 AM
A-League 2019/20 Match day 10 Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 29 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 28 occasions in the A-League and on 1 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 11, City Wins - 14, Drawn - 4


In Newcastle – 15 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, City Wins - 5, Drawn - 1
In Melbourne - 14 matches
Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 9, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 10066
Average Away A-League Crowd - 7164

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 40, City - 56
In Newcastle -
Jets – 25, City - 24

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 14, City - 15

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 82 (80 yellow, 2 red), City 51 (49 yellow, 2 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 3 (Jair 22', Champness 75', O'Donovan 79') - Melbourne City 1 (Maclaren 55') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 19, Season 2018/19

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2018/19 Match day 19

Newcastle JetsMelbourne City
Lewis ItalianoEugene Galekovic
John KoutroumbisHarrison Delbridge
Lachlan JacksonBart Schenkeveld
Nikolai Topor-StanleyCurtis Good
Ivan VujicaScott Jamieson
Nick CowburnKearyn Baccus
Matthew RidentonLuke Brattan
Steven UgarkovicShayon Harrison
Jair EduardoRitchie De Laet
Angus ThurgateFlorin Berenguer
Kaine SheppardJamie Maclaren



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015, Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15 and Jets 0 - City 4 (Cahill 12', Fitzgerald 65', Fornaroli 75' pen, Fornaroli 81') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 23 18/3/2017

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
City - Bruno Fornaroli (10)



2019/20 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss77006300000
2Bobby Burns3030540000
3Jason Hoffman77035951010
4Nigel Boogaard33002700020
5Ben Kantarovski63313530000
6Steven Ugarkovic77016080100
8Wes Hoolahan000000000
9Abdiel Arroyo55043891000
10Dimitri Petratos77006302310
11Nick Fitzgerald76154990010
14Kaine Sheppard101050000
16Matthew Millar77006302100
18John Koutroumbis77015850000
19Kosta Petratos101060000
20Lewis Italiano000000000
22Lachlan Jackson44003600000
23Matthew Ridenton64213820010
25Jack Simmons000000000
28Patrick Langlois2020120000
31Maki Petratos101080000
32Angus Thurgate73422842110
40Noah James000000000
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley77006300000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches
Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Erick Mombaerts - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 7 matches (2 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses = 29% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
Richard Money - No matches
Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)

Jeterpool
12-12-2019, 09:55 AM
Mods - can you please update thread title. Hit submit too quickly

plague
12-12-2019, 10:40 AM
Most likely a 14-6 loss.
We'll win some stupid 'balls into the area' stat.

Some idiot will try that anus sunbaking on the hill just for the attention.

I hate stats.

MFKS
12-12-2019, 12:19 PM
Mods - can you please update thread title. Hit submit too quickly

Just like this shitty team mistakes happen

Let's run with it

The Dunster
15-12-2019, 06:47 PM
City are grubs off the ball and ref seems happy enough to accommodate it.

Simon Hill could not be any more anti Newcastle. Blokes a complete ****wit.

Hunter403
15-12-2019, 06:51 PM
Johnny K asleep?

The Dunster
15-12-2019, 06:54 PM
Johnny K asleep?

Asleep, too slow, and not a left back.

Hunter403
15-12-2019, 07:06 PM
We have the 2 biggest central defenders in the league and a midget scores with his head against them.

The Dunster
15-12-2019, 07:19 PM
Is Boogs ok to play? Jackson needs a rest.

MFKS
15-12-2019, 07:33 PM
Safe to say at HT Fitzuseless has been our best player

****ing honking display

2nd best all over the park

Bring Ridenton on FFS

sorefootballer
15-12-2019, 07:47 PM
My god we are slow at the back and cannot read the play

Hunter403
15-12-2019, 07:47 PM
Safe to say at HT Fitzuseless has been our best player

****ing honking display

2nd best all over the park

Bring Ridenton on FFS

Ridenton? You back on the weed?

sorefootballer
15-12-2019, 07:48 PM
We should all be smoking the green after this showing

MFKS
15-12-2019, 07:53 PM
Ridenton? You back on the weed?

He ain't any worse than these ****s are today

Jetmaster
15-12-2019, 07:58 PM
Johnny K asleep?


What the hell was he doing for that quick free kick?

Hunter403
15-12-2019, 08:01 PM
What the hell was he doing for that quick free kick?

Johnny K shoukd have been hooked at half time. Jeez Burns must be crook if he can't make that left back spot his.

We take off 2 attackers and bring on 2 def miss. Damage control

The Dunster
15-12-2019, 08:02 PM
I think the games more about how bad we are than City being anything special.

Given the squads limited budget and uncertainty surrounding the clubs future it can't be easy for the players or coaching staff.

Anyway back to the cricket

belchardo
15-12-2019, 08:10 PM
not sure this new idea of playing without fullbacks has been all that successful.

we are honking tonight.

The Dunster
15-12-2019, 08:31 PM
Props to the 8k fans that showed up to see this piss poor effort.

Martin Lee should appologise to each of them personally.

Frodo
15-12-2019, 08:45 PM
Props to the 8k fans that showed up to see this piss poor effort.

Martin Lee should appologise to each of them personally.

Not his fault. We knew what to expect this year. If the club was for sale last year and cutting money where possible you surely didn't think this year would be any different.

Our aim this year is to win the F3 trophy at best and avoid the spoon at worst.

StannyCFCJET
15-12-2019, 09:05 PM
Sounds like going to Trophy Eyes was the right choice. We're gonna play like this more often then we will have good wins so nothing new

380
15-12-2019, 09:26 PM
Props to the 8k fans that showed up to see this piss poor effort.

Martin Lee should appologise to each of them personally.

I get the frustration with our owner and his cut price approach to the club now but how those same players can put in a top effort away like last week then come out at home no less and deliver that abortion of a performance is the real question to be asked from today's match.

That performance today looked like the we don't give a shit approach has finally trickled down from club owner right down to the playing group.

pv4
15-12-2019, 09:47 PM
Safe to say at HT Fitzuseless has been our best player

****ing honking display

2nd best all over the park

Bring Ridenton on FFS

100% agreed Fitz was our best. I hated he was subbed off and hated our last sub was a defensive mid being brought on too.

I don't know what it's going to take for Ernie to realise Hoff is an athlete and not a footballer. He was terrible tonight and I predict the 10 other coaches in the league would have hooked him first. Use him as an athletic fullback or nothing, he doesn't have the brains to play further up. All of his "decisions" tonight were dumb desperate kick and hope and the sheer class disparity between our left side and their right side was perfectly summarised in Hoff for me.

MFKS
15-12-2019, 09:51 PM
100% agreed Fitz was our best. I hated he was subbed off and hated our last sub was a defensive mid being brought on too.

I don't know what it's going to take for Ernie to realise Hoff is an athlete and not a footballer. He was terrible tonight and I predict the 10 other coaches in the league would have hooked him first. Use him as an athletic fullback or nothing, he doesn't have the brains to play further up. All of his "decisions" tonight were dumb desperate kick and hope and the sheer class disparity between our left side and their right side was perfectly summarised in Hoff for me.

As much as Johnny K had a bad game I gonna question the support he had around him

He had little assistance from Hoff tracking back
Topor was pretty late coming across all night to help out
Kanta and Ugarkovic screened **** all tonight

The opposition did a great job at isolating him and exploiting his issues at left back
But FFS he got **** all help from his teammates or coach tonight

pv4
15-12-2019, 09:58 PM
I also want to add if Hoff does something bad in the opposition half the fans are all "well he got into those positions" but when things don't go 100% as planned for Dimi the fans hurl abuse at him. What gave Hoff this magical immunity for being shit? We don't deserve Dimi, and when he leaves you know we won't replace him with a fringe national team player and we'll be wondering why we are even shitter than we currently are.

anfield
15-12-2019, 09:58 PM
No excuses can be given here, not about budgets etc. City aren't really that good, Jamie McLaren is obviously a marquee signing. The difference is the Jets don't have a marquee.

But really McLaren is good at A League level, but he is no superstar outside of Australia.

Unlike possibly other's, I have no problem with Merrick. Good coach, but I feel he is not the coach who can make an average team into a team that can dominate better team's with his prefered style. After a result like that changes must occur, around 2-3. If Merrick was coaching in Italy or Spain he would be after a new job after that result.

Jetmaster
15-12-2019, 10:08 PM
Fun night,

* Stuffed up teddy toss
* PC Santa who looked about 6 stone
* Announcer calling us the Knights
* Toddlers race...one little girl crying and terrified as her mother dragged her along....smacking her would have been kinder.
* Played with 10 men (no left back)
* More goal attempt comedy
* Big screen said our next game v Roar kicks off at 5pm with gates opening at 6.30pm.

As for Martin Lee....I doubt he even checks the scores now.

mic22
15-12-2019, 10:18 PM
Now I know why tickets were 40% off.
Should have been 95% off though.

Let's look at the positives: we'll never see JohnnyK at left back ever again.
7 horrible games are enough for a coach to see that the experiment has failed.
Being destroyed like that can't be good for his confidence as a professional player.

Tonight felt like a Stubbins: MoM is going to be a hard task.

Grimario
15-12-2019, 10:19 PM
7 horrible games are enough for a coach to see that the experiment has failed.

Wasn't there plenty of JK at left back last year as well?

StannyCFCJET
15-12-2019, 10:29 PM
Now I know why tickets were 40% off.
Should have been 95% off though.

Let's look at the positives: we'll never see JohnnyK at left back ever again.
7 horrible games are enough for a coach to see that the experiment has failed.
Being destroyed like that can't be good for his confidence as a professional player.

Tonight felt like a Stubbins: MoM is going to be a hard task.

You want Johnny K not at LB get a new coach

plague
15-12-2019, 10:34 PM
Fun night,

* Stuffed up teddy toss
* PC Santa who looked about 6 stone
* Announcer calling us the Knights
* Toddlers race...one little girl crying and terrified as her mother dragged her along....smacking her would have been kinder.
* Played with 10 men (no left back)
* More goal attempt comedy
* Big screen said our next game v Roar kicks off at 5pm with gates opening at 6.30pm.

As for Martin Lee....I doubt he even checks the scores now.

the teddy toss was good. crowd needs to know it only works when there is anarchy. the silly announcer trying to count it down was pointless. throw them early wait til the clean up then throw them late. chaos is how these things are best served. Getting called the Knights was peak Jets, well in to the lady on the mic. we all know what you were thinking.

plague
15-12-2019, 10:35 PM
* Big screen said our next game v Roar kicks off at 5pm with gates opening at 6.30pm.


have already seen people making fun of this on the twitterbook and facespace.

made me giggle.

380
15-12-2019, 10:41 PM
You would probably see a more committed bunch out on the field if you showed at half 6 next time out

MFKS
15-12-2019, 11:45 PM
What the hell was he doing for that quick free kick?

I got more of an issue with the ref here

For whatever reason he allowed them to take a quick one when he didn't show the same consistency to allow us the same luxury when it was our turn

The other and more pertinent issue is for whatever reason when that free kick was awarded all the Jets pushed forward and the Heart players dropped back. Basically all the players seem to think it was a Jets free kick

The only **** who didn't was the ref. Being that half our team had started to move up field we were easily caught out with the free kick and had **** all troops back

For whatever reason allowing them to take a quick free kick when there seemed to be some confusion with the players over the decision left 1 team at a distinct disadvantage to defend it

That being said Johnny K ain't my main gripe with that goal it the abysmal goalkeeping from Moss who should never have let that shot in

pv4
16-12-2019, 07:04 AM
I got more of an issue with the ref here

For whatever reason he allowed them to take a quick one when he didn't show the same consistency to allow us the same luxury when it was our turn

The other and more pertinent issue is for whatever reason when that free kick was awarded all the Jets pushed forward and the Heart players dropped back. Basically all the players seem to think it was a Jets free kick

The only **** who didn't was the ref. Being that half our team had started to move up field we were easily caught out with the free kick and had **** all troops back

For whatever reason allowing them to take a quick free kick when there seemed to be some confusion with the players over the decision left 1 team at a distinct disadvantage to defend it

That being said Johnny K ain't my main gripe with that goal it the abysmal goalkeeping from Moss who should never have let that shot in

I thought the ref did fine there, and was great all night. He is an outstanding ref in my eyes.

Yes the confusion is pretty much every jerk thought it was our freekick, but the ref had clearly signalled his intentions the entire time. I didn't think it was taken "quick" I just think it escalated in the jerks eyes once they realised it wasn't their ball.

Agreed with Moss, that's a weak angle for him to be shipping a goal regardless of how well it is hit. Live I also thought NTS barely closed the player down, there was only ever one intention in that play, but the one replay I saw I vibed he did get closer to the shooter than I originally thought and it must have been the angle I was viewing from.

Were all 4 goals from our left side?

Jetmaster
16-12-2019, 08:07 AM
The other thing about that free kick was that Urgarkovic was carrying the ball.....just gave it back walked away.
Jamieson in that situation would have held into it like a dog with a bone till his team were ready.

MFKS
16-12-2019, 08:48 AM
I thought the ref did fine there, and was great all night. He is an outstanding ref in my eyes.

Yes the confusion is pretty much every jerk thought it was our freekick, but the ref had clearly signalled his intentions the entire time. I didn't think it was taken "quick" I just think it escalated in the jerks eyes once they realised it wasn't their ball.

Agreed with Moss, that's a weak angle for him to be shipping a goal regardless of how well it is hit. Live I also thought NTS barely closed the player down, there was only ever one intention in that play, but the one replay I saw I vibed he did get closer to the shooter than I originally thought and it must have been the angle I was viewing from.

Were all 4 goals from our left side?
I was up the end they scored in so I was a fair bit away but it was bizarre watching as the ref seemed to be signalling for a free kick when we had the ball so it appeared a Jets FK had been awarded for somethibg

Not that it matters too much in the grand scheme as we were terrible anyway but the confusion seemed to be generated by the ref
Even the Heart players dropped back to defend a Jets Free Kick so they appeared to be accepting of a Jets Free kick being awarded

In a closer game that could have been massively controversial call

The ref was weak as last night not that the Jets put in much effort but he did get Heart get away with plenty
The Heart keeper should have been booked 1000 times in the night for timewasting at every restart and the ****s didn't get booked to Injury Time

Jetmaster
16-12-2019, 09:35 AM
I was up the end they scored in so I was a fair bit away but it was bizarre watching as the ref seemed to be signalling for a free kick when we had the ball so it appeared a Jets FK had been awarded for somethibg

Not that it matters too much in the grand scheme as we were terrible anyway but the confusion seemed to be generated by the ref
Even the Heart players dropped back to defend a Jets Free Kick so they appeared to be accepting of a Jets Free kick being awarded

In a closer game that could have been massively controversial call

The ref was weak as last night not that the Jets put in much effort but he did get Heart get away with plenty
The Heart keeper should have been booked 1000 times in the night for timewasting at every restart and the ****s didn't get booked to Injury Time

Yes - but we are naive and don't give it back. The 2-3 top clubs niggle, dive and waste time - nothing new and it wins them games. We never react and it was obvious some of our guys just fell away as they got bullied. If you hit back at them it sometimes works. And do you ever see us waste time when in front?

There were moments in the first half where the City guy got "floored" and Hoff got into a small scrap - moments where the crowd was itching to get involved but the players went back into their shell.

That malaise spread to the bench of wooden figures.

turbojetfireV8
16-12-2019, 07:50 PM
One positive I took from last night was just how keen Burns is when he comes on. Kept putting crosses from the sideline into the box from the moment he came on - we need him to start and take the corners. Only issue I see with that though is that our next game is Perf so it's likely to be apocalyptic temps over there and he'll probably melt, but otherwise I would suggest that is the first change Ernie makes this week (though I suspect he's probably thinking Ridenton is the answer knowing Ernie...)

The Hacker
16-12-2019, 09:10 PM
Sounds like going to Trophy Eyes was the right choice. We're gonna play like this more often then we will have good wins so nothing new

We made the right choice cause Trophy Eyes were good

Hunter403
16-12-2019, 09:38 PM
With Dimi and Angus playing as a pair, they were both really high leaving Kanta and Stevie Ug exposed. Their midfield had acres of space and they used it to smash our left side.

The subs were all about damage control. Should have used the opportunity to get some running into Shepperd's legs instead of love child Ridenton doing sweet FA.

StannyCFCJET
16-12-2019, 09:56 PM
We made the right choice cause Trophy Eyes were good

Bloody oath they were. Craziest mosh I've seen in a while