2020/21 New Coach speculation thread

[furns]

Save the chat about Ernie for the other thread, who should come in at end of the season to take over from Deans/Li?
Personal choice for me is Arthur Papas, but I doubt he will leave Ange's side at Yokohama.
Local choice would probably be Damian Zane from Edgy as personally I think A-League clubs need to start taking chances on NPL coaches.

[Aegon]

Save the chat about Ernie for the other thread, who should come in at end of the season to take over from Deans/Li?
Personal choice for me is Arthur Papas, but I doubt he will leave Ange's side at Yokohama.
Local choice would probably be Damian Zane from Edgy as personally I think A-League clubs need to start taking chances on NPL coaches.

I’d love to see us take a chance on someone with new ideas.
Why not give Zane a go? Affordable and a no lose situation for anyone.

[Hunter403]

Same old names will be tossed around...Farina, Pappas, Mulvey, the clown that coached the scum and whose name I understandably forget. (Moss??), etc. Add Kewell to that list as well. We will no doubt pick the worst one available. This is, afterall, the Jets!

[furns]

Same old names will be tossed around...Farina, Pappas, Mulvey, the clown that coached the scum and whose name I understandably forget. (Moss??), etc. Add Kewell to that list as well. We will no doubt pick the worst one available. This is, afterall, the Jets!
It wont be Mulvey, he was asking too much money.
Papas would be fantastic.
Doubt we would pick up anyone ex from CCM except maybe Okon but they would have same issues with us as they had there unless ownership changes.
With all the turmoil at WU - maybe good time to try for Anastasiadis especially if we cant get Papas out of Yokohama?
Kewell wont leave UK.
Farina - just no lol

[Hunter403]

It wont be Mulvey, he was asking too much money.
Papas would be fantastic.
Doubt we would pick up anyone ex from CCM except maybe Okon but they would have same issues with us as they had there unless ownership changes.
With all the turmoil at WU - maybe good time to try for Anastasiadis especially if we cant get Papas out of Yokohama?
Kewell wont leave UK.
Farina - just no lol

I wasn't suggesting any of them. Just suggesting that the same old names will get tossed up.

[furns]

I wasn't suggesting any of them. Just suggesting that the same old names will get tossed up.
yep - got that mate haha
Just providing my responses :D

[380]

Looking at it in the same way this broke busted club will and put the cost at the forefront i will say Jean-Paul de Marigny.

Not my choice just who i think it will be.

[Grimario]

I have a pretty good record in Sweden and managed to get Singapore out of the group stages at the Asian Cup, so I might apply.

[Jeterpool]

I have a pretty good record in Sweden and managed to get Singapore out of the group stages at the Asian Cup, so I might apply.

I'd vote for you

[StannyCFCJET]

I have a pretty good record in Sweden and managed to get Singapore out of the group stages at the Asian Cup, so I might apply.

#GrimIn

[lquiquer]

I have a pretty good record in Sweden and managed to get Singapore out of the group stages at the Asian Cup, so I might apply.

Grim IN.....9 points v Adelaide in the pocket every year....:lulzturtle:

[lquiquer]

Muscat ?

[Frodo]

Stajic to coach both sides in preparation for our inevitable merger next season?

I reckon Deans and Li might even stay in charge for the rest of the season. Gives any potential new owners an even cleaner slate to work with.

[StannyCFCJET]

We must look to the NPL for our next coach. Pick someone who has done well in that arena who wants to prove themselves at the next level

[Couscous]

Farina cannot coach. Pappas lacks the forcefulness to be head coach. Kewell wants too much money. Zane is a big step down.

Jokes aside, GVE is available. If you can pull the forum blinkers off, you'll agree that he is the best option for this moment.

[380]

We must look to the NPL for our next coach. Pick someone who has done well in that arena who wants to prove themselves at the next level

I said this a couple of weeks ago and was told in no uncertain terms that A League coaches must come from being A League players and A League players must not come from state leagues, Go figure.

[Jetmaster]

I said this a couple of weeks ago and was told in no uncertain terms that A League coaches must come from being A League players and A League players must not come from state leagues, Go figure.

If we were doing ok by all means...but this is more than just a coaching gig st the moment. We got Ernie in because we had already tried two newbies and it didn't work. Same with Kewell...this is no time to experiment.

[380]

In actual fact at the time of being told A Leagues coaches can't come from State Leagues i was advocating for Edgy Zane to be rewarded with a Asst coaching role off the back of his success at Edgy.

[mic22]

If it's Muscat, I quit.
What about Zadkovich?

[MFKS]

Deans Out

FFS you ****s realise how long it took to get rid of him the first time ??

Don't worry about who is in next we need to unite now to extinguish the threat Dean's holds

[YewYew]

If it's Muscat, I quit.
What about Zadkovich?

Didn’t he punch on with oppo players last yr? Jets ain’t giving him the job with that rep.

Rumour I heard was Zane may get offered to end of season. Wd b a great choice.

[MFKS]

Other option on the cheap is Agent McBreen

Already coaching the Yoof


If we gonna go left field bring Labinot home

[380]

Didn’t he punch on with oppo players last yr? Jets ain’t giving him the job with that rep.

Rumour I heard was Zane may get offered to end of season. Wd b a great choice.

Has not half the success that Zane has had out at Edgy.

[StannyCFCJET]

Other option on the cheap is Agent McBreen

Already coaching the Yoof


If we gonna go left field bring Labinot home

Labi not ready

[zenon]

I wasn't suggesting any of them. Just suggesting that the same old names will get tossed up.
Deans is OK and has been around for ages - take a chance and appoint Daniel Mcbreen - he knows the A-league well and would be an innovative type

[Tommyjet]

We need a coach that makes us relevant, someone with a decent profile, someone who will still have us talked about despite still finishing with the spoon.........enter Harry kewell

[380]

Nah with the benefit of some time to think this through i reckon our Gypo CEO should come down from the stands and sit his ass in the hot seat and show us all how it is done with this Loose change squad.

I am sure he would still have the required accreditation to do just this. How about it Lawrie show us and Bert how it should have been done.

[MFKS]

Nah with the benefit of some time to think this through i reckon our Gypo CEO should come down from the stands and sit his ass in the hot seat and show us all how it is done with this Loose change squad.

I am sure he would still have the required accreditation to do just this. How about it Lawrie show us and Bert how it should have been done.

Won't happen

As if the Gypo would put his head on the chopping block

[MFKS]

Also mods can you change the thread title

20/21 Coaching Speculation

This is the Jets we talking about where we sack coaches days before the comp kicks off etc

To assume the next muther****er is gonna last long enough he sees it to the end of this season is a massive presumption of delusion when it comes to supporting this shit show

[turbojetfireV8]

Deans has underperformed as a coach with the girls (particularly when we spent money on their squad a few seasons ago), only appears to keep the job as no-one else is interested, just exactly what is he supposed to offer the men's team? This is a f***'n debacle already...

come to think of it, guy has been a liability from the day he weaselled his way into the Jets as an instant longterm injury before the season he joined even started, what are his f'n credentials?

[Frodo]

Whoever has the lowest wage demands and can promise us we wont get relegated this season wins.

[Bremsstrahlung]

We need a coach that makes us relevant, someone with a decent profile, someone who will still have us talked about despite still finishing with the spoon.........enter Harry kewell

Least he’ll get a free ride from the media for a season aka Fowler.

[Bremsstrahlung]

How’s Zads coaching going?

On the NPL stuff, I’d like to see Zane taken in under a mentor ship or something for the rest of the season. Get a look at him. It’s budget. He’s from the local NPL. Fox would love the story. Saves us from the merry go round.

Think we do need somebody with experience to be able to restructure the squad, wages etc.
At least we get to see what Martin Lee’s ambitions are.

[Grimario]

Least he’ll get a free ride from the media for a season aka Fowler.

Any Newcastle coach could get a free ride for years. No one gives a **** how poorly the regional clubs play. We're here to make up the numbers.

[Alton]

Come on people it won't be Zads,Zane or Deans. What about Gombeau?

[Bremsstrahlung]

I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we get anybody with any kind of positive reputation.

[mic22]

Think we do need somebody with experience to be able to restructure the squad, wages etc.
At least we get to see what Martin Lee’s ambitions are.

I think Lee has already made his ambitions extremely clear...

[Grimario]

I'll bet pleasantly surprised if we get anybody. That's how low the club have set my expectations now.

But in FM2020, Muscat took over and spent 6 years finishing 11th or 12th, one year in 3rd, then sacked after coming last again. Mitch Nichols was caretaker for a few months but the club ended up with Rudan. All of them, probably including Nichols, aren't even close to the level we're going to stoop.

[The Dunster]

How’s Zads coaching going?

On the NPL stuff, I’d like to see Zane taken in under a mentor ship or something for the rest of the season. Get a look at him. It’s budget. He’s from the local NPL. Fox would love the story. Saves us from the merry go round.

Think we do need somebody with experience to be able to restructure the squad, wages etc.
At least we get to see what Martin Lee’s ambitions are.

It's already been made clear that he wants to sell the club. The only reason he hasn't sold the club is that there hasn't been a genuine offer put on the table.

[W8 WATCHER]

If it's Muscat, I quit.
What about Zadkovich?

now that suggesstion would really fuk the club up to oblivion
he is a moron, and has no coaching ability what so ever

[pv4]

I will be very surprised if the club don't hire Deans full time.

I will also be incredibly underwhelmed if/when that happens.

[leftrightout]

To be honest, i think it will be Mcbreen.

Local guy, will come cheap as already part of the club coaching staff. Seems to be a pretty popular guy so while we will still be shit, might have a chance at getting a team culture.


.... but mainly the cheap thing!

[Frodo]

I kind of want Muscat in now.

Would both tarnish his reputation more and show us what rock bottom really looks like.

[MFKS]

I kind of want Muscat in now.

Would both tarnish his reputation more and show us what rock bottom really looks like.

Bloke has won 2 HAL titles and was penalty kicks away from a 3rd

Don't know why people think the bloke can't coach

[Jeterpool]

If we're serious we'd be after Muscat.

[Jeterpool]

Actually, James Gardiner has tweeted Lawrie mentioned Sven Goran-Eriksen has expressed interest.

[380]

Bloke has won 2 HAL titles and was penalty kicks away from a 3rd

Don't know why people think the bloke can't coach

This. Boke would put some fear into those who are cruising

[Frodo]

Actually, James Gardiner has tweeted Lawrie mentioned Sven Goran-Eriksen has expressed interest.

Why would we believe anything that McKinna says?

[Tommyjet]

Actually, James Gardiner has tweeted Lawrie mentioned Sven Goran-Eriksen has expressed interest.

Marketing propaganda. Trying to pull the wool of the fans eyes again

[Tommyjet]

There is no chance Muscat would come anywhere near us as it presently stands

[380]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/eriksson-throws-hat-in-ring-to-replace-merrick-at-newcastle-jets-20200107-p53pg0.html

[Tommyjet]

That's rather revealing that article. Wonder how much is true

[Jeterpool]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/eriksson-throws-hat-in-ring-to-replace-merrick-at-newcastle-jets-20200107-p53pg0.html

Thanks for sharing.

[380]

That's rather revealing that article. Wonder how much is true

Under any other circumstances i would also agree it is just a load of BullShite However if true that he was keen on the Roar job then it could very well be legit he has a real interest in acquiring i gig the A League.

[MFKS]

SGE been coaching in the Philippines

I suppose an HAL gig is the next natural progression when your career is on the downward spiral

[Bon]

SGE been coaching in the Philippines

I suppose an HAL gig is the next natural progression when your career is on the downward spiral

And if one is looking to go right down the sh!tter, what better place than here??

[The Dunster]

If the club did bring in someone like Muscat or Sven then you'd need to ask why wasn't this money available to Ernie for buying the players we needed to be competitive?

I can't imagine Muscat being interested - but if he was I'd e very happy. He's a great coach and doesn't tolerate anyone not giving their all.

Sven doesn't have enough experience with state league quality players to be anything more than a marketing stooge for the club.

EDIT: I stand corrected - did not know Sven was in Philippines.

[Jeterpool]

Sven is 72!?!

[Tommyjet]

Under any other circumstances i would also agree it is just a load of BullShite However if true that he was keen on the Roar job then it could very well be legit he has a real interest in acquiring i gig the A League.

Yeah the Martin Lee stuff I found more interesting. If he is taking it off the market there needs to be a real sign of intent and more of a presence from him rather than only hearing from mckinna.

Also Ernie saying no to a new assistant? Surely he knows a few people in the football scene he'd like to sit beside.
Saying no to bringing in a new player? He's made some very questionable decisions in the past season and a half but really? Turn down the chance to use someone elses money whilst sitting on the bottom of the ladder? Really

[The Dunster]

I don't buy it that Ernie was offered money to buy another player and said no.

Lawrie needs to go. He simply cannot be trusted.

[leftrightout]

Saying no to bringing in a new player? He's made some very questionable decisions in the past season and a half but really? Turn down the chance to use someone elses money whilst sitting on the bottom of the ladder? Really

I wonder if this "available money" was the Champness money?
There has been consistent rumours about him returning. Fitness issues aside, maybe Ernie had this in mind.

Who bloody knows with this club!

[Alton]

Not SGE surely, he is 72 and well past it FFS

[Jeterpool]

I wonder if the money is being saved is a strategy ahead of the Independent A-League coming in play next season. Lawrie would be privy to conversations with other CEOs and have a better idea than any one of us about the ambitions, structure, caps etc the new model will implement. Run the new season as lean as you can to put it towards the newer model next year when financial restrictions might actually be loosened.

He mentions in the video on the Jets site that Martin's business is picking up, so it's just a theory I have.

[Jeterpool]

Not SGE surely, he is 72 and well past it FFS

Listening to Lawrie's comments about it on the Jets website (15 minute video that's worthwhile watching) he laughs it off. I think it's a big name for paper talk but surely one that isn't seriously being considered.

[380]

I don't buy it that Ernie was offered money to buy another player and said no.

Lawrie needs to go. He simply cannot be trusted.

I agree completely and would be great to know what is Lawrie's definition of money to bring in a player.Was the amount significant enough to make the search worthwhile and bring in someone of decent quality or is he talking not much more than min wage funds like he is on the record as saying " somebody elses A League bench player ".

[Macca]

I agree completely and would be great to know what is Lawrie's definition of money to bring in a player.Was the amount significant enough to make the search worthwhile and bring in someone of decent quality or is he talking not much more than min wage funds like he is on the record as saying " somebody elses A League bench player ".

The quote in the paper I felt misrepresented how Lawrie answered that question. To me, and I don't think his story has changed throughout the season, they have some funds to look for players, but not a large amount. They have found or been offered some players that were within those funds, took them to Ernie who wasn't interested in that player. To say that Ernie wasn't interested in signing any new players is false.

The thing with the assistant coach was mentioned earlier in the season too, so that's not new. My thoughts were that when Zane left, the club would have offered Ernie "x" or "y" as assistants, and he probably went eh, don't worry about it.

Hopefully the business picking up for Lee continues, and he / the club are able to resolve the situation of being unable to get money out of China.

[The Dunster]

I wonder if the money is being saved is a strategy ahead of the Independent A-League coming in play next season. Lawrie would be privy to conversations with other CEOs and have a better idea than any one of us about the ambitions, structure, caps etc the new model will implement. Run the new season as lean as you can to put it towards the newer model next year when financial restrictions might actually be loosened.

He mentions in the video on the Jets site that Martin's business is picking up, so it's just a theory I have.

Even when his business was doing poorly he still had a net worth double that of David Traktovenko who owns Sydney FC.
Hence, it's more Lawrie bullshit to give false hope to the fans about the owner investing in the team again.

[evolution]

I wonder if the money is being saved is a strategy ahead of the Independent A-League coming in play next season

I don't believe this is the case any more. From what I've heard this is being pushed back 3.5 years until the end of the current Fox deal.

[Jetmaster]

Oh....please be Sven! And bring back Special 1 TV while we're at it....

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cqy2kaEAF6k/hqdefault.jpg

"Sven - I am the special one and I am leading the Tottenham in the Champions League.....meanwhile you are pimping yourself in a country full of kangaroos, wait till I tell the Voyeur this".


Nobody has noted either that no Ernie may mean no more Ridenton?

[The Dunster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peshema0GMY

[turbojetfireV8]

Listening to Lawrie's comments about it on the Jets website (15 minute video that's worthwhile watching) he laughs it off. I think it's a big name for paper talk but surely one that isn't seriously being considered.

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/video/presser-lawrie-mckinna-january-2020

[Skirt Boy]

If the club did bring in someone like Muscat or Sven then you'd need to ask why wasn't this money available to Ernie for buying the players we needed to be competitive?

I can't imagine Muscat being interested - but if he was I'd e very happy. He's a great coach and doesn't tolerate anyone not giving their all.

Sven doesn't have enough experience with state league quality players to be anything more than a marketing stooge for the club.

EDIT: I stand corrected - did not know Sven was in Philippines.

If you read the SMH article. There was money available but Merrick chose not to use it.

[The Dunster]

If you read the SMH article. There was money available but Merrick chose not to use it.

Money available and enough to buy a decent player are not the same thing.

The Proof. The club never made a competitive bid for Nabbout when he became available.

Lawrie is full of shit.

[380]

If you read the SMH article. There was money available but Merrick chose not to use it.


"We've not got a lot of money but we've definitely got money to bring in a player or two," McKinna said. "There's a lot of good under-23 players with other teams who are looking for a game."

That is far cry from the sort of funds required to fix this sinking ship. I think Ernie was on the record of saying pretty much that if the money is not going to get you much better that what you have already why bother. Our Gypo CEO would have been better to refer to that money that was available as loose change to buy somebody elses squaddie or bench player at best. Hardly a real solution to the problem.

[turbojetfireV8]

Money available and enough to buy a decent player are not the same thing.

The Proof. The club never made a competitive bid for Nabbout when he became available.

Lawrie is full of shit.

From memory Nabbout was more a case of him totally bypassing us, we didn't even know he was available until he'd penned the deal with MV because he/his management never let us know, so I don't think it's fair to say we got the chance to make an offer or decline to make one either

[Frodo]

From memory Nabbout was more a case of him totally bypassing us, we didn't even know he was available until he'd penned the deal with MV because he/his management never let us know, so I don't think it's fair to say we got the chance to make an offer or decline to make one either

Nah, we made an offer for him but it wasn't competitive. It was mentioned a few weeks after he signed for them.

I'd assume we offered him the same wages he was on before he left. So there was zero chance he wasn't going to take them. McKinna just low-balling to save face.

[lquiquer]

Well Rojas is a free agent at the moment (He left his Danish club few weeks ago) and has played under Muscat (Who is a successful coach and a grub who will restore discipline and leadership). But are they interested ???

[Jetmaster]

According to the man himself at the season launch, Nabbout became a free agent and after discussion with his wife wanted to return to Melbourne for when they had their first child. He said he did promise to contact Lawrie first but that "circumstances change" and he had not contacted the Jets. It was the interview where you can hear Boogaard yell out "you had your chance!"

We move on - Nicky Carle and Griff also said they would not go anywhere else on return.


Anyway my money is on Okon if he wants the job.

[The Dunster]

According to the man himself at the season launch, Nabbout became a free agent and after discussion with his wife wanted to return to Melbourne for when they had their first child. He said he did promise to contact Lawrie first but that "circumstances change" and he had not contacted the Jets. It was the interview where you can hear Boogaard yell out "you had your chance!"

We move on - Nicky Carle and Griff also said they would not go anywhere else on return.


Anyway my money is on Okon if he wants the job.

I'd be happy with Okon having a 2nd stint as coach at the Jets. He was great in season 2.

[MFKS]

According to the man himself at the season launch, Nabbout became a free agent and after discussion with his wife wanted to return to Melbourne for when they had their first child. He said he did promise to contact Lawrie first but that "circumstances change" and he had not contacted the Jets. It was the interview where you can hear Boogaard yell out "you had your chance!"

We move on - Nicky Carle and Griff also said they would not go anywhere else on return.


Anyway my money is on Okon if he wants the job.

Griff went no where else when he came back
So don't spread lies

Next thing you be peddling that BS that he didn't score the winning goal in the GF

[Jetmaster]

Griff went no where else when he came back
So don't spread lies

Next thing you be peddling that BS that he didn't score the winning goal in the GF

Sorry - forgot it was his twin brother that went there!

[Alton]

Well Rojas is a free agent at the moment (He left his Danish club few weeks ago) and has played under Muscat (Who is a successful coach and a grub who will restore discipline and leadership). But are they interested ???

Love it, get them both

[Grimario]

Muscat already signed in Belgium and Rojas has replaced the released guy at City.

[Jeterpool]

Tony Vidmar is another name thrown up by Jimmy G in the Herald this morning.

[The Dunster]

Tony Vidmar is another name thrown up by Jimmy G in the Herald this morning.

Ex Mariners player..... I can see a pattern here.

[Jeterpool]

Ex Mariners player..... I can see a pattern here.

Yup

[Tommyjet]

Ex Mariners player..... I can see a pattern here.

Rather okon, he did at least play for us and captain us before his moment of weakness coaching the scum

[MFKS]

Ex Mariners player..... I can see a pattern here.

Boogaard passed the ball to Vidmar

Griff tackled him and scored the winning goal

If we can get Jimmy Holland and Song Back the Gypo will have put the band back together

[traffic light]

Sven is 72!?!

And still plays the 2fb 3md 5fd formation. no

[belchardo]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6575328/a-league-jets-coaching-job-attracts-interest-from-across-the-globe/?cs=7580

they should just play the tape from the last time round - lots of interest, some big names putting their hand up, blah blah blah. article a couple of days old, might have already been posted.

Bit on Clayton Zane resigning from NNSWFF due to his wife's health. Hope she gets better soon.

[Couscous]

I'm coming to Newy in about a week. Very disappointed there won't be a game on.

[baldrick]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6575328/a-league-jets-coaching-job-attracts-interest-from-across-the-globe/?cs=7580.

Stephen Constantine would be an interesting choice.

If you haven’t heard the interview he did on Santo, Sam & Ed’s 2 on 1 podcast it’s well worth a listen


https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/totalfootball/2-on-1-with-stephen-constantine/11516250

[anfield]

Stephen Constantine would be an interesting choice.

If you haven’t heard the interview he did on Santo, Sam & Ed’s 2 on 1 podcast it’s well worth a listen


https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/totalfootball/2-on-1-with-stephen-constantine/11516250

For mine there would be better choices out there. I'm sure the guy can coach, but this is possibly the Jets biggest ever decision as manager.
I'm concerned over his lack of recent club coaching and apart from India who has he really managed?
We can't be just giving it to someone that is interested, but If he is the best candidate then he possibly might get the gig.

[380]

For mine there would be better choices out there. I'm sure the guy can coach, but this is possibly the Jets biggest ever decision as manager.
I'm concerned over his lack of recent club coaching and apart from India who has he really managed?
We can't be just giving it to someone that is interested, but If he is the best candidate then he possibly might get the gig.


This. They will give it to Deans because that will be the most economical for a cheap ass club like ours.

[furns]

Looks like my first and second choices are out of the running.
Papas just signed a new deal at Yokohama and Anastasiadis is rumoured to be joining him as the other assistant left Yokohama to join Shimzu as the head coach.
Ange taking all the good 'uns

:(

[MFKS]

Marko Kurz is available

[lquiquer]

Marko Kurz is available

Ernie to Victory

[Roundball Enthusiast]

We should just wait for Wanderers to lose this weekend, then we sign Babbel when they sack him. Easy.

[Couscous]

Kurtz: poor reputation
Kewell: too expensive
Deans: lacks authority/management aptitude
McBreen: lacks qualifications
GVE: perfect choice but fans are clueless
Stubbins: poor coach (but thinks he's amazing)
Muscat: uninterested
Eriksson: lulz

[Alton]

Can anyone name the 6?

[MFKS]

Kurtz: poor reputation
Kewell: too expensive
Deans: lacks authority/management aptitude
McBreen: lacks qualifications
GVE: Not good enough and completely clueless
Stubbins: poor coach (but thinks he's amazing)
Muscat: uninterested
Eriksson: lulz

Fixed that for you

[Jardelsimage]

Kurtz: poor reputation
Kewell: too expensive
Deans: lacks authority/management aptitude
McBreen: lacks qualifications
GVE: Not good enough and completely clueless
Stubbins: poor coach (but thinks he's amazing)
Muscat: uninterested
Eriksson: lulz

Fixed that for you

Definitely a better description...

[Jeterpool]

This has got to be the most underwhelming coach-replacement saga we've had.

No rumours, no wild names (apart from Sven), very little speculation in the media.

BORING!

[Frodo]

This has got to be the most underwhelming coach-replacement saga we've had.

No rumours, no wild names (apart from Sven), very little speculation in the media.

BORING!

Surely McKinna is just letting the room clear before he announces himself.

[anfield]

Time to go foreign I reckon. Look at someone that has been an assistant or under 23 manager at a Premier League Club.
Not sure what local coaches could be even considered a better local coach then Ernie? Paul Okon would be the only Australian guy that I would be considering.

[StannyCFCJET]

Time to go foreign I reckon. Look at someone that has been an assistant or under 23 manager at a Premier League Club.
Not sure what local coaches could be even considered a better local coach then Ernie? Paul Okon would be the only Australian guy that I would be considering.

No thanks. Need someone who has knowledge of local Newcastle players as we don't have much Money IMO

[The Dunster]

I'd be satisfied if Lawrie appointed John Hutchinson as Manager with Nick Mrdja named as his assistant.

[Tommyjet]

I'd be satisfied if Lawrie appointed John Hutchinson as Manager with Nick Mrdja named as his assistant.

Kwasnik as strength and conditioning

[The Dunster]

Kwasnik as strength and conditioning


Andre Gumprecht as Youth Coach

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1468521/hitler.jpg

[Jetmaster]

I'd be satisfied if Lawrie appointed John Hutchinson as Manager with Nick Mrdja named as his assistant.

Over Griff's dead body.

[My2BobsWorth]

Bridgey ticks all the boxes

[Jetmaster]

According to NBN this is the boyo...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Robinson

[Hunter403]

According to The World Game:
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/former-mls-coach-robinson-in-box-seat-for-jets-job

[Frodo]

#RobinsonOut

[Bremsstrahlung]

Captain coach role.

[anfield]

Reports of Carl Robinson suggest Lawrie and Joel thinking foreign like I previous suggested.
We have just gone through a truckload of local coaches Stubbins, Miller, Jones and Merrick if you include him. Apart from one good year we have done nothing in that time.
Time for change, If it's Robinson then so be it. He appears a good candidate although he used alot of 4-4-2 in his final years at Vancouver, I can't see that working at the Jets.

He did appear to use 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 in his early days at Vancouver so he obviously is flexible with his systems. I have a feeling there could be an English manager in the final frame as well.

[StannyCFCJET]

Reports of Carl Robinson suggest Lawrie and Joel thinking foreign like I previous suggested.
We have just gone through a truckload of local coaches Stubbins, Miller, Jones and Merrick if you include him. Apart from one good year we have done nothing in that time.
Time for change, If it's Robinson then so be it. He appears a good candidate although he used alot of 4-4-2 in his final years at Vancouver, I can't see that working at the Jets.

He did appear to use 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 in his early days at Vancouver so he obviously is flexible with his systems. I have a feeling there could be an English manager in the final frame as well.

If he plays 4-4-2 that would be awesome

[turbojetfireV8]

as long as he doesn't bring Bernie Ibini with him probably not the worst option to try, but anyone is going to struggle in the job unless we bring a few more quality players in, would any coach in the a-league get our current squad, injuries warts and all etc., out of the bottom half of the table?

[Frodo]

as long as he doesn't bring Bernie Ibini with him probably not the worst option to try, but anyone is going to struggle in the job unless we bring a few more quality players in, would any coach in the a-league get our current squad, injuries warts and all etc., out of the bottom half of the table?

We don't need to move out of the bottom half. We just need to move above the Gypos. Plain and simple. If he gets us above them I'll be happy to have him next season. If he can't, fold the club.

[anfield]

as long as he doesn't bring Bernie Ibini with him probably not the worst option to try, but anyone is going to struggle in the job unless we bring a few more quality players in, would any coach in the a-league get our current squad, injuries warts and all etc., out of the bottom half of the table?

Very good point, Any coach would have struggled if they had a team without their overseas main signing, their no1 and NO2 strikers plus their centre back. That's why I thought Ernie was a little bit harshly treated.

With funds available, we need to grab a player who can make a difference. I wonder who else is in the final list of 6 outside Robinson? Another Welsh manager possibly?

[Frodo]

Very good point, Any coach would have struggled if they had a team without their overseas main signing, their no1 and NO2 strikers plus their centre back. That's why I thought Ernie was a little bit harshly treated.

With funds available, we need to grab a player who can make a difference. I wonder who else is in the final list of 6 outside Robinson? Another Welsh manager possibly?

McKinna is Scottish not Welsh isn't he?

[Skirt Boy]

Spurs sack Pochettino...........Jets then sack Merrick a few weeks later. Coincidence?

[380]

One of the articles says how he would be a good fit for the club because he has experience with a club with no money to spend and that point not lost on our Gypo CEO.

Pretty f^&*(ng sad state of affairs if it were true and one your biggest criteria in a new candidate is there ability for working with nothing. I want to hear from our Gypo CEO what sort of money will be made available to a new manager, This loose change somebody elses fringe bench player like Bert said in his final interview or a reasonable sum of money presumably that was not made available for Ernie.

If the light man does not lift his game and provide " proper " funds then they can sack and hire as many Ernie's and Carl as they like it will make stuff all difference til Martin Lee gets serious again.

[Grimario]

If the light man does not lift his game and provide " proper " funds then they can sack and hire as many Ernie's and Carl as they like it will make stuff all difference til Martin Lee gets serious again.

Why should he spend his own money on something that should be run to be self sufficient? The league is a shambles that there is an expectation on some bloke to dump millions into a club to be competitive. Just fold the basket case already.

[380]

Why should he spend his own money on something that should be run to be self sufficient? The league is a shambles that there is an expectation on some bloke to dump millions into a club to be competitive. Just fold the basket case already.

I will clarify my statement, Fund it to similar level of season 17/18.

Why should he ?. Because he purchased it and therefore he has a responsibility to do his with it. He knew full well at the time of acquiring the club the situation , He would have done due diligence and have had the right people go over loss & profit statements.

Everything you cite about the leagues shortcomings and i agree totally with you are not a new phenomenon yet he still signed up to the cause, That is why.

[MFKS]

I will clarify my statement, Fund it to similar level of season 17/18.

Why should he ?. Because he purchased it and therefore he has a responsibility to do his with it. He knew full well at the time of acquiring the club the situation , He would have done due diligence and have had the right people go over loss & profit statements.

Everything you cite about the leagues shortcomings and i agree totally with you are not a new phenomenon yet he still signed up to the cause, That is why.

You are also assuming that the info and BS FFA and Gypo CEO have fed him was 100% accurate

History says judging by the BS Lowy sold Tinkler Palmer etc that the cartel operators have a long history of conning investors

What makes you think they told the Chinese Lightsalesman the truth ??

His stance on cuttingfunds and putting the club on the market may well be straight up down to being sold a lemon

[Frodo]

I will clarify my statement, Fund it to similar level of season 17/18.

Why should he ?. Because he purchased it and therefore he has a responsibility to do his with it. He knew full well at the time of acquiring the club the situation , He would have done due diligence and have had the right people go over loss & profit statements.

Everything you cite about the leagues shortcomings and i agree totally with you are not a new phenomenon yet he still signed up to the cause, That is why.

That's crap. Only an idiot would be spending any extra money on an A League team right now. And don't forget, Martin Lee doesn't owe you or I anything. If anything, we owe him for spending his money to keep us with a team to support.

Until they start running things in a profitable way he should be spending the bare minimum to keep us afloat. With the FFA out of the picture hopefully this happens soon. There's a market there if they cut out the salary cap and let clubs spend as little or as much as they like to be profitable. I'll go watch the league whether it's full of Ronaldo's or Hoole's, just don't charge me Ronaldo ticket pricing for Hoole quality players.

[Skirt Boy]

That's crap. Only an idiot would be spending any extra money on an A League team right now. And don't forget, Martin Lee doesn't owe you or I anything. If anything, we owe him for spending his money to keep us with a team to support.

Until they start running things in a profitable way he should be spending the bare minimum to keep us afloat. With the FFA out of the picture hopefully this happens soon. There's a market there if they cut out the salary cap and let clubs spend as little or as much as they like to be profitable. I'll go watch the league whether it's full of Ronaldo's or Hoole's, just don't charge me Ronaldo ticket pricing for Hoole quality players.

What gets me about this. And it's just not football specific but applies to all of the codes. Why are they so poor?

When you consider the superior television coverage that the football codes have. They all scream poor. Yet a Supercar team can spend up to 10 million per year. I know that Kelly Racing received 3 Million per year for hiring Simona De Silvestro. That's 12 million per year (4 car team) plus development costs (they were a homogolator)

Certain people are obviously putting themselves first before the good of the game.

[MFKS]

What gets me about this. And it's just not football specific but applies to all of the codes. Why are they so poor?

When you consider the superior television coverage that the football codes have. They all scream poor. Yet a Supercar team can spend up to 10 million per year. I know that Kelly Racing received 3 Million per year for hiring Simona De Silvestro. That's 12 million per year (4 car team) plus development costs (they were a homogolator)

Certain people are obviously putting themselves first before the good of the game.

Let's start with the PFA

With clubs getting crowds of 6 to 10k playing in giant expensive stadiums

Why has the salary cap increased 200% in 12 years yet the crowds haven't??

[380]

That's crap. Only an idiot would be spending any extra money on an A League team right now. And don't forget, Martin Lee doesn't owe you or I anything. If anything, we owe him for spending his money to keep us with a team to support.

Until they start running things in a profitable way he should be spending the bare minimum to keep us afloat. With the FFA out of the picture hopefully this happens soon. There's a market there if they cut out the salary cap and let clubs spend as little or as much as they like to be profitable. I'll go watch the league whether it's full of Ronaldo's or Hoole's, just don't charge me Ronaldo ticket pricing for Hoole quality players.

Sorry but your excuse for Martin Lee is crap. The excuse that the club and the A League are a basket case and therefore he gets a free pass for being a tight ass is utter Bullshit.

You saying the A League and our club were honky dory at the time of his purchase ?.

The A League was and our club for that matter were a basket case at the time he purchased it yet he went in with open eyes and still signed on the bottom line. Blaming the league for Martin's being a tight ass is a crock, The League IS and HAS BEEN been struggling long before Martin Lee came along.

If he did not like the environment his potential purchase was going to be operating in he could have kept his money in his pocket.

[anfield]

You would think it's probably a done deal now with Robinson given he has toured Newcastle and is going to watch tonight's game in Melbourne. A bad performance may change his mind though.

[Tommyjet]

You would think it's probably a done deal now with Robinson given he has toured Newcastle and is going to watch tonight's game in Melbourne. A bad performance may change his mind though.

Has this been reported?

[Grimario]

Blaming the league for Martin's being a tight ass is a crock, The League IS and HAS BEEN been struggling long before Martin Lee came along.

I am not using the league to justify his tight assery. I am saying he has absolutely no obligation to put more money in. You're in a dream land if you think he owes us anything.

[Tommyjet]

I wonder if Carl and Darren Davies know each other?

[Jetmaster]

Has this been reported?

Just saw him sitting next Lawrie with my own eyes.....he's there.

[Couscous]

I've heard some good news.

[lil_masi]

I've heard some good news.

In terms of Carl or what?

[Bon]

I've heard some good news.

You reckon you've got a third shot at the gig, Gary?

[380]

I've heard some good news.

That you were hoping for a start at the Wanderers rather than JP

[Couscous]

I've heard some good news.

Still looking good.

[MFKS]

The longer this shit drags on the greater the chances GVE has or doing a Steven Bradbury

[Jetmaster]

*crickets*

[Jeterpool]

Maybe Lawrie asked Lawrie if he wanted a coach and he said no?

[Jetmaster]

Robbo finally confirmed - email on the way and its on FB.

[Tommyjet]

Robbo finally confirmed - email on the way and its on FB.

Have heard there may be another player on the way also

[Frodo]

Robbo finally confirmed - email on the way and its on FB.

I am just as excited as he appears in the pictures on that facebook post.

[noremac]

Have heard there may be another player on the way also

Bernie Ibini is a free agent and was at vancouver same time..

just speculation though

[turbojetfireV8]

Bernie Ibini is a free agent and was at vancouver same time..

just speculation though

please let that not be true...

[380]

please let that not be true...

I can think of one player i would swap him out for in a heart beat.

[StannyCFCJET]

I can think of one player i would swap him out for in a heart beat.

Dimi?

[380]

Dimi?

Nah Dimi can actually play the game however we do have a player on his 28th club in the A league who would not look out of place on the bench for Valentine.

[StannyCFCJET]

Nah Dimi can actually play the game however we do have a player on his 28th club in the A league who would not look out of place on the bench for Valentine.

Not atm. He is negatively effecting the team IMO. We need to take the risk and see how we go without him

[380]

I would have Dimi on the bench also this weekend or at the very least off corner duty for the rest of his career.

[The Dunster]

I would have Dimi on the bench also this weekend or at the very least off corner duty for the rest of his career.

The player manager Carl Robinson is associated with [David Baldwin] represents Dimi and Fitzgerald, Shepherd, Langlois, Kosta Petratos, and Makis Petratos.

The real worry though is that Baldwin also represents Bernie Ibini who is without a club after Jeonbuk [K-League] let him go and the club he'd been transferred to Esteghlal [Persian Golf Pro League] rejected him as he failed a medical.

Ibini also played under Robinson / Baldwin at Vancouver.

I'd laugh if Ibini was one of the players Ernie was offered but rejected. Who knows - it may have even cost Ernie his job.

Doesn't concern me anymore as I no longer support the Jets. I'm just here for the laughs. The club is dead to me otherwise.

[pv4]

The player manager Carl Robinson is associated with [David Baldwin] represents Dimi and Fitzgerald, Shepherd, Langlois, Kosta Petratos, and Makis Petratos.

The real worry though is that Baldwin also represents Bernie Ibini who is without a club after Jeonbuk [K-League] let him go and the club he'd been transferred to Esteghlal [Persian Golf Pro League] rejected him as he failed a medical.

Ibini also played under Robinson / Baldwin at Vancouver.

I'd laugh if Ibini was one of the players Ernie was offered but rejected. Who knows - it may have even cost Ernie his job.

Doesn't concern me anymore as I no longer support the Jets. I'm just here for the laughs. The club is dead to me otherwise.

To be fair to Ibini, that medical rejection sounds like a load of nonsense. He failed because of a knee operation, or similar, that he had 3 or 4 years ago and has played for several clubs since. I would take Ibini at the club in a heartbeat, he is miles better than the type of player I've been expecting us to sign. I find him extremely overrated but even the level I rate him at is higher than the players I'd imagine we're looking at otherwise.

I have my reservations about Robinson based on the agency links you mentioned weeks ago, and again today. Examples like how he dropped his certified starting goalkeeper in 2017 the week after he changed agents, it isn't a good look. Robinson was tied in with a big old mess at Vancouver, and I can't help but draw the conclusion that he was heavily involved. If we are throwing all our eggs into the one agency basket, which giving Carl a 3.5 year deal seems to say we are, I'm hoping it goes the way of the current EPL Wolves rather than back to our old conexxion days.

[The Dunster]

Is anyone asking questions on Twitter to Lawrie about appointing Robinson based on his past efforts and controversies in the MLS ?

[anfield]

The coaching saga has dragged on for too long. How long does it take to pick a coach?

[lil_masi]

Numerous papers are reporting former Rangers player Kenny Miller will be Carl's assistant

[Couscous]

The coaching saga has dragged on for too long. How long does it take to pick a coach?

The club strung this out unnecessarily and still made a terrible decision.

[Frodo]

The club strung this out unnecessarily and still made a terrible decision.

Didn't make it past the first round of interviews again Gary?

[boz-monaut]

not sure if you've noticed but this club only ever makes wrong decisions

[Frodo]

not sure if you've noticed but this club only ever makes wrong decisions

Is that in relation to us not rehiring Gary, Boz?

[380]

Couscous a bit filthy he or Tony Vidmar overlooked.

[Jetmaster]

Didn't make it past the first round of interviews again Gary?

Worrying enough he must have got on the short list.

[Frodo]

Worrying enough he must have got on the short list.

Getting on the shortlist here isn't hard. I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't heard from Plague for a few weeks, he showed Lawrie his Football Manager 2019 stats and made it through to the final rose. Obviously didn't quite make the cut tho.

[Jetmaster]

First presser...

https://www.newcastlejets.com.au/video/preser-carl-robinson-and-lawrie-mckinna-february-2020?fbclid=IwAR2-vMRp2rVe9j7NUIErrrEWa71VibpaVfDcG_BBOji2J5ZROPlXCG pX5Gg

Obviously thinks some of our players are poo....this can only be good.

[Aegon]

Anyone arguing against Kenny Millar as an assistant?

Hopefully a great addition who can be a positive influence on the team.

[Jeterpool]

I think we've retained the same-same long enough.
We need to break the mould and the investment for Robinson to bring his own back staff will prove to be either a masterstroke, a like-for-like or a failure.
I think a refresh is needed

[MFKS]

Getting on the shortlist here isn't hard. I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't heard from Plague for a few weeks, he showed Lawrie his Football Manager 2019 stats and made it through to the final rose. Obviously didn't quite make the cut tho.

Pretty certain Plague is being held hostage somewhere by Gypos and we may need a crack team of Navy seals led by Griff to free him

[Couscous]

We need to break the mould

https://static.winc.com.au/pi/c8/c335b18fe205a24fda99b95ab4927b7e0f2816-1957723/large.jpg

[belchardo]

I think we've retained the same-same long enough.
We need to break the mould and the investment for Robinson to bring his own back staff will prove to be either a masterstroke, a like-for-like or a failure.
I think a refresh is needed

Agreed. Refresh is necessary throughout the club.

[Tommyjet]

Who is coming off contract? I think the spine is priority with 2 ageing centrebacks and the main contender to replace them out with an acl. I predict we'll shed ridenton and use his visa spot on an experienced foreign 6. At least a new no 1 keeper if we are gonna pretend to be serious about finals.

[belchardo]

Who is coming off contract? I think the spine is priority with 2 ageing centrebacks and the main contender to replace them out with an acl. I predict we'll shed ridenton and use his visa spot on an experienced foreign 6. At least a new no 1 keeper if we are gonna pretend to be serious about finals.

Have we seen enough to make a judgement on italiano? I haven't been shocked by his performances so far.

[Tommyjet]

Have we seen enough to make a judgement on italiano? I haven't been shocked by his performances so far.

I suppose it depends on whether he sees money needed more elsewhere. Also Noah James. Do they rate him enough? If he is as highly rated as some suggest, will he take off to another club if we replace moss and keep him out in the cold. Unfortunate time for him to get injured.

[anfield]

Good luck to and congratulations to Carl Robinson. He speaks well and is well credentialed. I hope the supporter's get behind him.

[StannyCFCJET]

Good luck to and congratulations to Carl Robinson. He speaks well and is well credentialed. I hope the supporter's get behind him.

We always get behind the managers until they show they are completely useless (Stubbins and Jones) or too stubborn/showing signs they've given up (Merrick)

[furns]

Coach appointed, so no need for a speculation thread.