2020 NPL Youth Thread

[Alan]

I have no agenda here beyond asking if anyone has ideas to help address the imbalance and improve the competition.

Hi Hunter,

I think you make some very valid points in your post. This is an important conversation and I am pleased to see us having it.

I think the key to addressing the imbalance is for the 'weaker' clubs to make themselves more appealing to their existing or other players. Obviously cost is one way of doing it - can these clubs run their programs with rego fees half what they are currently charging? The answer is probably 'yes' - but it would take a culture change of not having youth football funding the 1st grade.

Another way is to give players more bang for their buck. If you offer the standard 3 nights per week standard training, can you do something different? Can you bring in some specialist coaches with vast experience to add value to your program? Are your coaches getting the support / coaching they need to make the program better? Is your club offering coaches the opportunity to progress their badges in return for some longer-term loyalty?

What is a club's training ground like? If your 'elite' kids are training on the same pitch as your community kids, can you use the 1st grade facilities instead? Can your club focus on ground / infrastructure improvements so that when players come and trial at your club they walk away saying 'wow, that place is much better than what I currently run about on for 5-6 hours a week'.

Of course, this all needs planning and desire and, mostly, patience. If clubs truly invest in youth they will see the benefits, but there will be losses, bumpy roads and it will take time. The smaller clubs are always going to lose their best kids to the bigger teams - it happens in the EPL! - but they need not lose them all.

Clubs need a strong committee, strong technical staff and strong support to make improvements year-on-year. I agree that SAP is the key - if you start implementing the right road now you'll see huge strides made in 4-5 years, but clubs have to commit and believe. Be honest with parents on where you are and where you want to be. But don't just sing it, bring it! Show them your commitment. Slash fees, offer something different, don't prop up aging 1st graders who will offer you nothing in a years time. Change culture. Choose life!

A

[KITZ]

Hi Hunter,

I think you make some very valid points in your post. This is an important conversation and I am pleased to see us having it.

I think the key to addressing the imbalance is for the 'weaker' clubs to make themselves more appealing to their existing or other players. Obviously cost is one way of doing it - can these clubs run their programs with rego fees half what they are currently charging? The answer is probably 'yes' - but it would take a culture change of not having youth football funding the 1st grade.

Another way is to give players more bang for their buck. If you offer the standard 3 nights per week standard training, can you do something different? Can you bring in some specialist coaches with vast experience to add value to your program? Are your coaches getting the support / coaching they need to make the program better? Is your club offering coaches the opportunity to progress their badges in return for some longer-term loyalty?

What is a club's training ground like? If your 'elite' kids are training on the same pitch as your community kids, can you use the 1st grade facilities instead? Can your club focus on ground / infrastructure improvements so that when players come and trial at your club they walk away saying 'wow, that place is much better than what I currently run about on for 5-6 hours a week'.

Of course, this all needs planning and desire and, mostly, patience. If clubs truly invest in youth they will see the benefits, but there will be losses, bumpy roads and it will take time. The smaller clubs are always going to lose their best kids to the bigger teams - it happens in the EPL! - but they need not lose them all.

Clubs need a strong committee, strong technical staff and strong support to make improvements year-on-year. I agree that SAP is the key - if you start implementing the right road now you'll see huge strides made in 4-5 years, but clubs have to commit and believe. Be honest with parents on where you are and where you want to be. But don't just sing it, bring it! Show them your commitment. Slash fees, offer something different, don't prop up aging 1st graders who will offer you nothing in a years time. Change culture. Choose life!

A

Love it! I think some of it as well comes down to parent education from the start. They see a name or scoreboard and think that’s the be all and end all.

More knowledge across the board and sharing, like for example. Many clubs don’t have goalkeeper coaching for their youth players. Only their senior squad.

Do you bench up the best players from the age down on game days?

How easy is it to communicate with the committee above the coach of your squad, are they approachable?

When do you find out who the coach for the next season is, or is it pot luck? Lol.

[Jim]

What we are seeing is that the best players from the lower placed clubs are already being targeted by the higher placed clubs. To paraphrase Midnight Oil, "the rich get richer.."

I firmly believe that the stronger the whole competition is, the closer the results we get then the more improvement we will get. You appear to agree as you suggest heading to Sydney for tougher competition (ie greater improvement). Why can't we get that tougher competition here?? How do we get that tougher competition here??
We can get a tougher comp by having 2 divisions for each age group. Bottom 2 down. 2 up 2 down each year. Incentive for everyone? Problem will be if Newfm is carving div 1 then Npl clubs will hen pick and down they go. But the whole idea is to get the best players playing top grade.



I think SAP is great concept. The trick next will be to find a way for, say a NEWFM club, not to lose a kid to an NPL club while still in SAP, or to stop a strong NPL club from recruiting a good player from a weaker NPL club. SAP is, for the moment, the best way forward.
Players will always be attracted to play in the strongest team possible and there in lies the top 3 or 4



In your response to BS detecor you said "It can't be all its made out to be up the top of the ladder, otherwise why would those teams not be retaining entire squads?" The answer to that is pretty obvious. Those clubs have decieded to strengthen their teams further by bringing in kids from outside. Now, maybe in the 13s they will come from outside the NPL club or its SAP program itself, but in the 14s, 15s and 16s it is more than likely that the new players coming in will be from other NPL clubs, How do I know this? It is exactly what is occurring at the club where I coach.
Strongest teams have the least need to make changes. They already basically have the best. They still will bring in anyone who can beat their weakest. Clubs dont stay strong forever. Remember when Adamstown and Wallsend were the best?

[Jim]

They were headed for good things but their coach that was sacked slowly destroyed them. The new coach is trying to undo the damage caused. Winning is great but if that is a person’s sole driver then the point is being missed. Hey, it’s a beautiful day!

What did the previous coach do wrong? They had better results with him.

[Captain_Carl]

What did the previous coach do wrong? They had better results with him.

Oh yes results ... winning the game. That is the measure of a good coach in youth football isn’t it? That is obviously what you believe so your question is not worth answering.

[Hunter403]

We can get a tougher comp by having 2 divisions for each age group. Bottom 2 down. 2 up 2 down each year. Incentive for everyone? Problem will be if Newfm is carving div 1 then Npl clubs will hen pick and down they go. But the whole idea is to get the best players playing top grade.

I think 2 divisions is the way to go for sure. NPL1 and NPL2. Do we tie promotion / relegation to first grade results or run the youth independent on a club championship basis?

Another one to ponder: do we have 2 x 8 team competitions?

And another: what about mid north coast, far north coast and northern inland? They have no senior NPL teams so when those players finish in under 16s, where do they go? Is it worth including them at all? (not advocating this, just points for discussion).

Should clubs have a limit placed on them for player turnover each season?

Keep the ideas coming!

[Goatscheese]

What did the previous coach do wrong? They had better results with him.

That may have been the problem, winning and being competitive isn't really what Valo do.

[Goatscheese]

I think 2 divisions is the way to go for sure. NPL1 and NPL2. Do we tie promotion / relegation to first grade results or run the youth independent on a club championship basis?

Another one to ponder: do we have 2 x 8 team competitions?

And another: what about mid north coast, far north coast and northern inland? They have no senior NPL teams so when those players finish in under 16s, where do they go? Is it worth including them at all? (not advocating this, just points for discussion).

Should clubs have a limit placed on them for player turnover each season?

Keep the ideas coming!

Would have to be either club championship or both senior and youth run separately.

[Jim]

That may have been the problem, winning and being competitive isn't really what Valo do.

lol. By the immature crybaby reply you probably right.

[Jim]

Oh yes results ... winning the game. That is the measure of a good coach in youth football isn’t it? That is obviously what you believe so your question is not worth answering.

Its a question. Stop making up retarded stories and just answer the question in football terms.

[Jim]

I think 2 divisions is the way to go for sure. NPL1 and NPL2. Do we tie promotion / relegation to first grade results or run the youth independent on a club championship basis?

Another one to ponder: do we have 2 x 8 team competitions?

And another: what about mid north coast, far north coast and northern inland? They have no senior NPL teams so when those players finish in under 16s, where do they go? Is it worth including them at all? (not advocating this, just points for discussion).

Should clubs have a limit placed on them for player turnover each season?

Keep the ideas coming!

Separate from seniors. If clubs with low seniors build stronger youth it may flow on.

Club championship is a not a bad idea to separate divisions. A club with 3 lasts and a first needs a major fix. Clubs with teams that are all 4th provide quality opposition in each comp

Coast teams enter div 2 and promote with results.

Player turnover??? If youre trying to get off bottom maybe a few need to be replaced if possible.

[Captain_Carl]

Its a question. Stop making up retarded stories and just answer the question in football terms.

My answer is ... go jump in the lake and mind your own business.

[magician]

My answer is ... go jump in the lake and mind your own business.

You really are all kinds of special.

[finzee]

My answer is ... go jump in the lake and mind your own business.

Obviously too embarrassed to talk about it or has the Technical ability of a sloth

Cmon Carl prove you're not a mong and answer a simple question


What did the previous coach do wrong? They had better results with him.

[Captain_Carl]

Obviously too embarrassed to talk about it or has the Technical ability of a sloth

Cmon Carl prove you're not a mong and answer a simple question

Old coach vs Magic - draw
New coach vs Magic - draw
Old coach vs Roosters - win
New coach vs Roosters - win
Old coach vs North Coast - win
New coach vs North Coast - (draw because game not played)
Old coach vs Jaffas - win
New coach vs Jaffas - loss
Old coach vs Olympic - loss
New coach vs Olympic - loss

There you have it. Old coach has 1 win better than new coach thus far. What results don’t measure is the work new coach is doing on correcting the damage done by the old coach. I hope you muppets are now satisfied.

[finzee]

Old coach vs Magic - draw
New coach vs Magic - draw
Old coach vs Roosters - win
New coach vs Roosters - win
Old coach vs North Coast - win
New coach vs North Coast - (draw because game not played)
Old coach vs Jaffas - win
New coach vs Jaffas - loss
Old coach vs Olympic - loss
New coach vs Olympic - loss

There you have it. Old coach has 1 win better than new coach thus far. What results don’t measure is the work new coach is doing on correcting the damage done by the old coach. I hope you muppets are now satisfied.

Now we are getting somewhere.

But what was the DAMAGE done? poor passing? comms? etc

[Goatscheese]

But what was the DAMAGE done? poor passing? comms? etc

Indeed this mystery damage.

And from the stats he pumped out, has Valo not played Edgy or Adamstown or Mid North Coast yet?

[Captain_Carl]

Indeed this mystery damage.

And from the stats he pumped out, has Valo not played Edgy or Adamstown or Mid North Coast yet?

They have played all teams but these are the only teams that both the old and new coaches have coached against. I have no more time entertaining muppets so go with your buddy Kermit and find something better to do.

[Goatscheese]

I guess that means this apparent damage is nothing but a furphy

[Jim]

I guess that means this apparent damage is nothing but a furphy

:thumbsup:

[KITZ]

Indeed this mystery damage.

And from the stats he pumped out, has Valo not played Edgy or Adamstown or Mid North Coast yet?

It's not about the stats or the wins, it's about his personality not being suited to coaching kids. He's been removed from both SAP and NPL clubs.

Those around know enough, and those who don't know, don't need to know and its probably best left at that.

[Goatscheese]

It's not about the stats or the wins, it's about his personality not being suited to coaching kids. He's been removed from both SAP and NPL clubs.

Those around know enough, and those who don't know, don't need to know and its probably best left at that.

One would wonder why Valo appointed him if he has been removed from both SAP and NPL clubs before

[Hunter403]

One would wonder why Valo appointed him if he has been removed from both SAP and NPL clubs before

Just not enough qualified coaches out there

[traffic light]

Just not enough qualified coaches out there

Some clubs have EOI's for coaches. Wonder how many dont even get 1 app.

[Negative Police]

NOFC 4-1 v Jaffas 15s tonight

[YewYew]

Been told that Adamstown have put in Official compliant to Northern about Jaffas poaching kids in 14s. Jaffas taking 8 kids from the current Buds team next season . What the actual ****?!!?!?

[Goatscheese]

Been told that Adamstown have put in Official compliant to Northern about Jaffas poaching kids in 14s. Jaffas taking 8 kids from the current Buds team next season . What the actual ****?!!?!?

I have it from a good source that they have also told a player from Maitland 14s that he has a spot at the Jaffas 15s next year as well. Richard Hartley has said they aren't doing trails and the reason why they don't have to bother is because they have already poached players and offered them spots.

Not surprising really, but what is Northern going to do about it?

[YewYew]

I have it from a good source that they have also told a player from Maitland 14s that he has a spot at the Jaffas 15s next year as well. Richard Hartley has said they aren't doing trails and the reason why they don't have to bother is because they have already poached players and offered them spots.

Not surprising really, but what is Northern going to do about it?

8 kids from 1 club is wild. WTF are Buds to do with that? I guess those current Jaffas boys will be let go so maybe they just swop clubs????

[Jim]

8 kids from 1 club is wild. WTF are Buds to do with that? I guess those current Jaffas boys will be let go so maybe they just swop clubs????

Buds MAY have approached Jaffas. There are other clubs with deals in hand that will also be revealed. This will need a big bucket of popcorn.

[Jim]

I have it from a good source that they have also told a player from Maitland 14s that he has a spot at the Jaffas 15s next year as well. Richard Hartley has said they aren't doing trails and the reason why they don't have to bother is because they have already poached players and offered them spots.

Not surprising really, but what is Northern going to do about it?

Some Jaffas players already have players taken. Are we going to fine everyone or not?

[Hunter403]

NOFC 4-1 v Jaffas 15s tonight

good game that. score not really reflective of the game as Jaffas had a field player in goal and it showed.

[BS detecor]

8 kids from 1 club is wild. WTF are Buds to do with that? I guess those current Jaffas boys will be let go so maybe they just swop clubs????

With the jets coach going to the wanderers and the club in financial disarray, who knows, there might be some half decent players looking to take up those vacant positions next year

[Goatscheese]

8 kids from 1 club is wild. WTF are Buds to do with that? I guess those current Jaffas boys will be let go so maybe they just swop clubs????

They were told about 3 weeks ago that they won't be retained


Some Jaffas players already have players taken. Are we going to fine everyone or not?

Up to Northern but they won't do anything quite frankly clubs make a mockery of Northern rules and Northern rarely do anything. I don't know why they bother with telling clubs that they can't offer players positions till the trail period begins when clubs ignore it and know nothing will happen.

[Dontknowmuch]

good game that. score not really reflective of the game as Jaffas had a field player in goal and it showed.

I heard that the Olympic 16's got beat last night. Surely they wouldn't have been too happy. Feel bad for the North Coast team they would have easily won the premiership in 16's had they not been shutdown.

[KITZ]

They were told about 3 weeks ago that they won't be retained

Up to Northern but they won't do anything quite frankly clubs make a mockery of Northern rules and Northern rarely do anything. I don't know why they bother with telling clubs that they can't offer players positions till the trail period begins when clubs ignore it and know nothing will happen.

They can offer positions to existing kids for next year. I.E tell them they will be retained or not, but they aren't supposed to poach from other clubs. Lots of kids were told weeks ago, some are only notifying now in the last few weeks.

In saying that Jaffas don't have much of a defence since I've seen it in writing they aren't holding trials. How else do you get players if you aren't holding trials unless its REALLY obvious you are poaching them before the trial period starts, since you know you aren't supposed to be approaching players.

Lakes have got some good coaches lined up for next season, its good to see that kids can make decisions knowing who the coaches are before they go. Should happen more often, rather than the pot luck that normally happens.

[samcan]

I heard that the Olympic 16's got beat last night. Surely they wouldn't have been too happy. Feel bad for the North Coast team they would have easily won the premiership in 16's had they not been shutdown.

Yes

And now teams who play them probably will get no points. Luck of the draw.

[Hunter403]

I heard that the Olympic 16's got beat last night. Surely they wouldn't have been too happy. Feel bad for the North Coast team they would have easily won the premiership in 16's had they not been shutdown.

Understatement apparently. From what I've heard today there were send offs, foul language and swearing at officials.

Was anyone there watching?

[BS detecor]

Understatement apparently. From what I've heard today there were send offs, foul language and swearing at officials.

Was anyone there watching?

That’s pretty standard for an Olympic loss, especially the 15s and 16s teams

[Negative Police]

That’s pretty standard for an Olympic loss, especially the 15s and 16s teams

Someone finally muscled up to Olympic

[Beaver]

This has been going on for years and believe me NNSW has been advised and TD’s agreed not the right way! But kept happening-poaching players to the ‘bigger clubs’ and why does the NPLY always have a top 4 with teams from Olympic, Magic & Jaffa’s ?? Because they flaunt the rules and the spirit of the game and the program and NNSW do shut all about it
The ‘rich get richer, the poor get the picture, the bombs only hit you when down so low”.
The youth program is all set up to fail developing players as the good kids want to go & win& these clubs focus is just that ! I’ve had enough of it hence why as a former TD. I can’t do it anymore and am walking away -you spend your time developing players for the likes of Jaffa’s and Olympic to poach them and then when they 17- turn them away !!! It’s a bloody farce

[Bremsstrahlung]

This has been going on for years and believe me NNSW has been advised and TD’s agreed not the right way! But kept happening-poaching players to the ‘bigger clubs’ and why does the NPLY always have a top 4 with teams from Olympic, Magic & Jaffa’s ?? Because they flaunt the rules and the spirit of the game and the program and NNSW do shut all about it
The ‘rich get richer, the poor get the picture, the bombs only hit you when down so low”.
The youth program is all set up to fail developing players as the good kids want to go & win& these clubs focus is just that ! I’ve had enough of it hence why as a former TD. I can’t do it anymore and am walking away -you spend your time developing players for the likes of Jaffa’s and Olympic to poach them and then when they 17- turn them away !!! It’s a bloody farce

You know this. I know this. Others know this. Still happens.

Why? Who knows.
Maybe kid wanna say they played there. Maybe parents wanna say their kid plays there. Maybe they have friends there. Maybe they see it as a more professional club. Lots of reasons to go.

Sooner or later you’d hope a reputation develops and people become more aware of the long term implications.

Once upon a time, I had option to play for Magic or Olympic or stay at my club.
Chose to stick to my club, because I knew that I’d spend one year at Magic or Olympic and wouldn’t progress to next age. Progressed much better and enjoyed what I did more at my other club.

[ForeverRed]

That’s pretty standard for an Olympic loss, especially the 15s and 16s teams
You sound jealous of their success, bravo to them for being at the top all this time

[BS detecor]

You sound jealous of their success, bravo to them for being at the top all this time

Nah, just seen it all before. I’m surprised someone wasn’t spat on but who knows, they might have been

[Beaver]

I was ‘told’ today that NNSW has changed the youth finals format to a TOP 5? Anybody have information or can confirm this . If true Another example of how NNSW constantly move the goalposts and nobody has any confidence in them

[Negative Police]

This has been going on for years and believe me NNSW has been advised and TD’s agreed not the right way! But kept happening-poaching players to the ‘bigger clubs’ and why does the NPLY always have a top 4 with teams from Olympic, Magic & Jaffa’s ?? Because they flaunt the rules and the spirit of the game and the program and NNSW do shut all about it
The ‘rich get richer, the poor get the picture, the bombs only hit you when down so low”.
The youth program is all set up to fail developing players as the good kids want to go & win& these clubs focus is just that ! I’ve had enough of it hence why as a former TD. I can’t do it anymore and am walking away -you spend your time developing players for the likes of Jaffa’s and Olympic to poach them and then when they 17- turn them away !!! It’s a bloody farce

Jaffas are only recent and are just starting to make impact. Magic and Olympic for years and Edgy too.

Three big reasons are that the kids want to win, the parents want their kids to win and clubs want to win.

Now dont forget that Wallsend were once unbeatable so too Adamstown.

Insert new names, its NEVER going to change unless more clubs become more ruthless

[The Magician]

Nah, just seen it all before. I’m surprised someone wasn’t spat on but who knows, they might have been

Charlestown 14s player who spat in the face of a Magic player got 9 weeks apparently...

[Aegon]

I heard tonight off reliable people who were at the Jaffa’s v Olympic 16’s game that the Olympic Coach was sent off and subsequently abused the ref to such an extent that there was a need to call the police.

Not on at all, especially if the ref was young as they are a lot in these games.

[KITZ]

You know this. I know this. Others know this. Still happens.

Why? Who knows.
Maybe kid wanna say they played there. Maybe parents wanna say their kid plays there. Maybe they have friends there. Maybe they see it as a more professional club. Lots of reasons to go.

Sooner or later youÂ’d hope a reputation develops and people become more aware of the long term implications.

Once upon a time, I had option to play for Magic or Olympic or stay at my club.
Chose to stick to my club, because I knew that IÂ’d spend one year at Magic or Olympic and wouldnÂ’t progress to next age. Progressed much better and enjoyed what I did more at my other club.

Yep its definitely the smart option, but hard for kids and parents to see if the club isn't having that success at the top of the ladder. It becomes about defining success for yourself (or your kid) as a player. Do I want to win a premiership at 13 / 14, or do I want a club that will back me to play up an age or two and build that experience. There are clubs out there that will put a 15 year old into first grade, if they can work at that level, but they arent always the ones at the top of the ladder.

Those clubs are then happy for that youth player that has developed through like that to go and play in Sydney or sign for a club that can offer decent money in northern, without any negativity around those players moving on. Personally I think those clubs need to advertise that fact more so it becomes better public knowledge. Because it is happening, and they make decent players that aren't spitting on each other, and can take a loss or a win with the same respect for the other team.

[mge61]

I heard tonight off reliable people who were at the Jaffa’s v Olympic 16’s game that the Olympic Coach was sent off and subsequently abused the ref to such an extent that there was a need to call the police.

Not on at all, especially if the ref was young as they are a lot in these games.

If that is the case then throw the book at him and sanction the club. Totally unnecessary especially at Youth level. Hard enough getting officials as we all know wether or not we agree with their decisions.

[Negative Police]

They can offer positions to existing kids for next year. I.E tell them they will be retained or not, but they aren't supposed to poach from other clubs. Lots of kids were told weeks ago, some are only notifying now in the last few weeks.

In saying that Jaffas don't have much of a defence since I've seen it in writing they aren't holding trials. How else do you get players if you aren't holding trials unless its REALLY obvious you are poaching them before the trial period starts, since you know you aren't supposed to be approaching players.

Lakes have got some good coaches lined up for next season, its good to see that kids can make decisions knowing who the coaches are before they go. Should happen more often, rather than the pot luck that normally happens.

Hate to disappoint this huge outrage and big investigation but there were at least 3 other clubs with EOIs out before jaffas and some boys already picked at other clubs.

Are you going to name and shame them or not worry now?

I really think you need to put more energy in making Lake Mac just a little competitive.

[KITZ]

Hate to disappoint this huge outrage and big investigation but there were at least 3 other clubs with EOIs out before jaffas and some boys already picked at other clubs.

Are you going to name and shame them or not worry now?

I really think you need to put more energy in making Lake Mac just a little competitive.

WTF are you even talking about. EOIs and the club making offers are two very different things.

BTW just because you seem unable to read its Adamstown that's putting in a formal complaint. Kids can answer EOI's, but they can't be given any written offer before the trial dates posted by northern, and verbal offers don't mean anything, kids got them all over the place last year and then were told no thanks later on once clubs had seen other kids and decided they didn't want them anymore, that's what the trial process is supposed to stop, people being messed around.

BTW lake mac is competitive, you just have to look over more than ONE age group. They have also had young players signed from first grade across to other clubs this season, but since you for some reason focused on my comment and not the actual discussion that was being had as I was only contributing to the original comment about the complaint.

[KITZ]

Also, because you seem particularly dense, jaffas haven't even put out an EOI.

[samcan]

Also, because you seem particularly dense, jaffas haven't even put out an EOI.

Pretty sure he just said it as it was.

Why are you an angry retard?

[KITZ]

Pretty sure he just said it as it was.

Why are you an angry retard?

"Pretty sure he just said it as it was." said what as it was??? must be drinking the same Koolaid, enjoy the cooties.

Its 2020, get with the times, who uses the word retard anymore..... seriously what are you 12?

[ForeverRed]

And that folks is why a forum on kids football should cease

[Negative Police]

WTF are you even talking about. EOIs and the club making offers are two very different things.

BTW just because you seem unable to read its Adamstown that's putting in a formal complaint. Kids can answer EOI's, but they can't be given any written offer before the trial dates posted by northern, and verbal offers don't mean anything, kids got them all over the place last year and then were told no thanks later on once clubs had seen other kids and decided they didn't want them anymore, that's what the trial process is supposed to stop, people being messed around.

BTW lake mac is competitive, you just have to look over more than ONE age group. They have also had young players signed from first grade across to other clubs this season, but since you for some reason focused on my comment and not the actual discussion that was being had as I was only contributing to the original comment about the complaint.

geez you really are stupid. Lake Mac are competitive???? NPL - Last, Last, 2nd last, 8th!! SAP ordinary, 1st grade a joke. Thanks wanger.
Adamstown kids and parents can say no thanks and stay. Were they kidnapped idiot?
I can tell you that players from several clubs are already going to other clubs before any EOI.
Give it up you shouldnt out in public.

[Goatscheese]

If that is the case then throw the book at him and sanction the club. Totally unnecessary especially at Youth level. Hard enough getting officials as we all know wether or not we agree with their decisions.

Based on last year he will get 18 months but this depends if it actually happened of course

[Hunter403]

Based on last year he will get 18 months but this depends if it actually happened of course

And to top off a great period for Olympic, my kids heard at school that 2 under 15 players have been stood down for 2 weeks over threats made to Edgeworth players. I'm really hoping someone can tell me that this is not true. If it is, then this, coupled with the other events involving Olympic, point to a club with problems.

[Goatscheese]

And to top off a great period for Olympic, my kids heard at school that 2 under 15 players have been stood down for 2 weeks over threats made to Edgeworth players. I'm really hoping someone can tell me that this is not true. If it is, then this, coupled with the other events involving Olympic, point to a club with problems.

Indeed no discipline there. Wonder if the club is making the move to lessen the punishment from Northern and also to show Northern they are taking action as all clubs have been put on notice regarding poor behaviour from players this season. Northern told clubs at a special meeting about a month ago that they have received twice as many incident reports than the average and the season isn't even as long.

[prawnhead]

And that folks is why a forum on kids football should cease

Just dads living the dream FR. Agree mate

[Negative Police]

And that folks is why a forum on kids football should cease

Dont try playing mr mature now, your history is littered with petulant argument.

State a point of view about the footy or go back to being a never was fool. lol

[finzee]

Just dads living the dream FR. Agree mate

What? who? where? add some Youth info or stfu

[prawnhead]

What? who? where? add some Youth info or stfu

Read a few of your posts. A dad who never quite cracked it 😁. It’s all good mate 👍😁

[Beaver]

I really enjoy reading this forum but lately it has become a platform for insults and petulance from some of you -if you have good valid points about ‘local football, then express it & let’s comment civilly and respectfully if we have input ! If you have nothing useful to say then don’t comment -there is enough going on in the world without reading childish shit between some of you

[KITZ]

geez you really are stupid. Lake Mac are competitive???? NPL - Last, Last, 2nd last, 8th!! SAP ordinary, 1st grade a joke. Thanks wanger.
Adamstown kids and parents can say no thanks and stay. Were they kidnapped idiot?
I can tell you that players from several clubs are already going to other clubs before any EOI.
Give it up you shouldnt out in public.

They can tell you what they want, the clubs can't make formal offers and if they are they risk sanction. which was the whole point of the conversation that was happening here.

Also, just to reply to your LAZY fact checking, lakes 15's are currently 8th, but have been up around 5th, the 18s are 5th and their reserve grade is 6th (above Edgeworth, mind you, but don't let facts get in the way of a rant). They most years have to take kids from community at 13 and build them through to where they are competing more in the older age groups, they haven't had the opportunity like some clubs where entire SAP teams are handed over to them. Its pretty easy to achieve when someone has already developed your players for you, its a lot more work and coaching when you are developing them yourself, considering they didn't have a feeder like jaffas/olympic/magic.

In regards to SAP, I'm not sure what your level of imaginary rating is, since its supposed to be an individual skills development program not a team based football strategy program at 9-12 and people like you have destroyed the decent program it once was and turned it into a dick measuring competition.

While they might not be winning in first grade, they just debuted a 17-year-old goalkeeper, and have multiple players signed at other clubs that they have developed through to first grade. What they aren't doing is signing retired a-league players and having their youth leave because theres no where to go after youth NPL for them, they are specifically trying to develop kids through. You know since this forum is about YOUTH NPL.

They have kids playing up regularly, I know some that went from 15's, 16s, 18's to reserves in a space of a season, and they have just signed a heap of decent coaching staff heading into next season. they have also just launched a rebrand, I mean in a year when football might not have even happened and the sponsorship money is hard to come by, the club has done a heck of a lot of work.

That and they are a decent bunch of people to be around that don't have players spitting, abusing parents on the sidelines and racially abusing other teams. I mean sure I'm sure that behaviour is a great way to develop players for any professional league because the publicity on that always goes so well for football clubs.

Some of us can actually manage a conversation here. I think you need to find something else to do, and let the people that can manage coherent sentences actually converse.

Anyway on another subject has anyone heard if TSP will be starting up next year again?

[Negative Police]

They can tell you what they want, the clubs can't make formal offers and if they are they risk sanction. which was the whole point of the conversation that was happening here.

Also, just to reply to your LAZY fact checking, lakes 15's are currently 8th, but have been up around 5th, the 18s are 5th and their reserve grade is 6th (above Edgeworth, mind

?
Wrong again. were you born from a turd? i looked up the tables moron.

I did say last last 2nd last 8th. They werent in order you dumb twat. Love your pissweak excuses as well, jonny is playing up, jill is centre mid for first etc because they had shit to start with. Lake mac is a joke right now dont even try to talk them up. Shutup already.

[Negative Police]

Anyway on another subject has anyone heard if TSP will be starting up next year again?

And just for you hypocrite


Go and look and stop asking other people to do the work for you.

[Beaver]

And just for you hypocrite
Will you both take your girly spat somewhere else !!

[KITZ]

Will you both take your girly spat somewhere else !!


Edit: I found the block option. So I'm happy to move on.

[Aegon]

What did the previous coach do wrong? They had better results with him.

I spoke to the former Valentine 13's coach this weekend (not knowing he was the coach that was sacked at the start of the conversation) and in the interest of presenting both sides of the story I'll give his.

He was the coach of Macquarie SAP 12's the previous year.
He bought a big group of those kids to Valentine 13's NPL for 2020.
He clashed with the parents of some of the new boys as they didn't like the positions the boys were being selected to play in.
Especially one parent who is on the committee didn't like their son being played on the wing rather than in midfield.
With the team coming 4th or 5th he got a tap on the shoulder from the TD saying his services were no longer needed.
Some of the players unhappy that a coach they had for a couple of years was sacked.
Team cohesion goes out the window - player motivation and game results suffer.

Of course this is just his perspective which could be seen through rose coloured glasses.
We'll probably have to wait and see how they go next year as he says a lot of those boys will be leaving for other clubs in 2021

[samcan]

Hopefully KITZ blocked himself. :rof:

North Coast and Lambton had a great game in 16s on Saturday. Good skills on show result could've gone either way. Lambton nicked it 4-3

[Aegon]

Hopefully KITZ blocked himself. :rof:

North Coast and Lambton had a great game in 16s on Saturday. Good skills on show result could've gone either way. Lambton nicked it 4-3

North Coast are back in the comp? Good to see.

[KITZ]

Hopefully KITZ blocked himself. :rof:

North Coast and Lambton had a great game in 16s on Saturday. Good skills on show result could've gone either way. Lambton nicked it 4-3

Block yourself for making assumptions that everyone here has to be male, dickhead.

[KITZ]

I spoke to the former Valentine 13's coach this weekend (not knowing he was the coach that was sacked at the start of the conversation) and in the interest of presenting both sides of the story I'll give his.

He was the coach of Macquarie SAP 12's the previous year.
He bought a big group of those kids to Valentine 13's NPL for 2020.
He clashed with the parents of some of the new boys as they didn't like the positions the boys were being selected to play in.
Especially one parent who is on the committee didn't like their son being played on the wing rather than in midfield.
With the team coming 4th or 5th he got a tap on the shoulder from the TD saying his services were no longer needed.
Some of the players unhappy that a coach they had for a couple of years was sacked.
Team cohesion goes out the window - player motivation and game results suffer.

Of course this is just his perspective which could be seen through rose coloured glasses.
We'll probably have to wait and see how they go next year as he says a lot of those boys will be leaving for other clubs in 2021

It wasn't just MQ 12's he was coaching last year. He was coaching jaffa's 13s for half a season before was also asked to leave.

[Negative Police]

Block yourself for making assumptions that everyone here has to be male, dickhead.

What are you on about moron. So now your a feminist ahole. no surprise.
Just leave the earth dkhead

[Negative Police]

Hopefully KITZ blocked himself. :rof:

North Coast and Lambton had a great game in 16s on Saturday. Good skills on show result could've gone either way. Lambton nicked it 4-3

Didnt work. The queer prick has raised its ugly mug

[sapdad]

I spoke to the former Valentine 13's coach this weekend (not knowing he was the coach that was sacked at the start of the conversation) and in the interest of presenting both sides of the story I'll give his.

He was the coach of Macquarie SAP 12's the previous year.
He bought a big group of those kids to Valentine 13's NPL for 2020.
He clashed with the parents of some of the new boys as they didn't like the positions the boys were being selected to play in.
Especially one parent who is on the committee didn't like their son being played on the wing rather than in midfield.
With the team coming 4th or 5th he got a tap on the shoulder from the TD saying his services were no longer needed.
Some of the players unhappy that a coach they had for a couple of years was sacked.
Team cohesion goes out the window - player motivation and game results suffer.

Of course this is just his perspective which could be seen through rose coloured glasses.
We'll probably have to wait and see how they go next year as he says a lot of those boys will be leaving for other clubs in 2021
are you sure its a good idea to be posting this guys business on the internet? hope you arent betraying anything said in confidence.

[Aegon]

are you sure its a good idea to be posting this guys business on the internet? hope you arent betraying anything said in confidence.

Everything said so far was presented from the clubs side. This is just giving the other perspective.
Nothing he said himself puts him in a bad light.

Is it 100% true? Who knows? But better to at least provide a little perspective from both sides.

[Jim]

I spoke to the former Valentine 13's coach this weekend (not knowing he was the coach that was sacked at the start of the conversation) and in the interest of presenting both sides of the story I'll give his.

He was the coach of Macquarie SAP 12's the previous year.
He bought a big group of those kids to Valentine 13's NPL for 2020.
He clashed with the parents of some of the new boys as they didn't like the positions the boys were being selected to play in.
Especially one parent who is on the committee didn't like their son being played on the wing rather than in midfield.
With the team coming 4th or 5th he got a tap on the shoulder from the TD saying his services were no longer needed.
Some of the players unhappy that a coach they had for a couple of years was sacked.
Team cohesion goes out the window - player motivation and game results suffer.

Of course this is just his perspective which could be seen through rose coloured glasses.
We'll probably have to wait and see how they go next year as he says a lot of those boys will be leaving for other clubs in 2021

Thanks A. Nice to here some info from a legit question.

Maybe they might go to to Lake Mac.

[Goatscheese]

I spoke to the former Valentine 13's coach this weekend (not knowing he was the coach that was sacked at the start of the conversation) and in the interest of presenting both sides of the story I'll give his.

He was the coach of Macquarie SAP 12's the previous year.
He bought a big group of those kids to Valentine 13's NPL for 2020.
He clashed with the parents of some of the new boys as they didn't like the positions the boys were being selected to play in.
Especially one parent who is on the committee didn't like their son being played on the wing rather than in midfield.
With the team coming 4th or 5th he got a tap on the shoulder from the TD saying his services were no longer needed.
Some of the players unhappy that a coach they had for a couple of years was sacked.
Team cohesion goes out the window - player motivation and game results suffer.

Of course this is just his perspective which could be seen through rose coloured glasses.
We'll probably have to wait and see how they go next year as he says a lot of those boys will be leaving for other clubs in 2021

Sounds about right, once again committee members who should just be worrying about administration and not the football putting their two cents in and hurting their own teams for their own egos.

Know 4 of the Macquarie kids are looking elsewhere already.

[Captain_Carl]

I spoke to the former Valentine 13's coach this weekend (not knowing he was the coach that was sacked at the start of the conversation) and in the interest of presenting both sides of the story I'll give his.

He was the coach of Macquarie SAP 12's the previous year.
He bought a big group of those kids to Valentine 13's NPL for 2020.
He clashed with the parents of some of the new boys as they didn't like the positions the boys were being selected to play in.
Especially one parent who is on the committee didn't like their son being played on the wing rather than in midfield.
With the team coming 4th or 5th he got a tap on the shoulder from the TD saying his services were no longer needed.
Some of the players unhappy that a coach they had for a couple of years was sacked.
Team cohesion goes out the window - player motivation and game results suffer.

Of course this is just his perspective which could be seen through rose coloured glasses.
We'll probably have to wait and see how they go next year as he says a lot of those boys will be leaving for other clubs in 2021


Those rose coloured glasses are a very deep shade of rose.
The team was coming 7th when he was moved on. They are now coming 8th.
He didn’t bring players to the club. Most of them are local.
Some of the players unhappy he was sacked??? Yes, his son but it really shouldn’t be a surprise. He has previously been sacked by Olympic, Jaffas, Newcastle SAP and Macquarie SAP. I am Valentine’s number 1 fan and I know what is going on. Ladies and gentlemen it’s the muppet show!

[KITZ]

Those rose coloured glasses are a very deep shade of rose.
The team was coming 7th when he was moved on. They are now coming 8th.
He didn’t bring players to the club. Most of them are local.
Some of the players unhappy he was sacked??? Yes, his son but it really shouldn’t be a surprise. He has previously been sacked by Olympic, Jaffas, Newcastle SAP and Macquarie SAP. I am Valentine’s number 1 fan and I know what is going on. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s the muppet show!

Yep, I suggested that above, it's not just one place and one committee.... but considering the bigots and homophobes are allowed to continue posting their diatribe all over this forum, I doubt you'll get much out of posting.

[samcan]

Yep, I suggested that above, it's not just one place and one committee.... but considering the bigots and homophobes are allowed to continue posting their diatribe all over this forum, I doubt you'll get much out of posting.

Summed yourself up well. Forgot idiot. Leave already

[KITZ]

Summed yourself up well. Forgot idiot. Leave already

obviously, the dictionary was dropped on your head, since you seem unable to use it. I'm not going anywhere because a bunch of toddlers keep throwing tantrums and can't handle adult conversation.

[Hunter403]

Those rose coloured glasses are a very deep shade of rose.
The team was coming 7th when he was moved on. They are now coming 8th.
He didn’t bring players to the club. Most of them are local.
Some of the players unhappy he was sacked??? Yes, his son but it really shouldn’t be a surprise. He has previously been sacked by Olympic, Jaffas, Newcastle SAP and Macquarie SAP. I am Valentine’s number 1 fan and I know what is going on. Ladies and gentlemen it’s the muppet show!

I don't recall any coach being sacked at Jaffas NPL in recent years.

[Captain_Carl]

I don't recall any coach being sacked at Jaffas NPL in recent years.

The former TD who sacked him last year does.

[Negative Police]

Summed yourself up well. Forgot idiot. Leave already

Just ignore the grub we all know he's an ahole with no life

[Negative Police]

I don't recall any coach being sacked at Jaffas NPL in recent years.

last year npl youth. wasnt a big deal. new coach came in and didnt do much though. water under bridge

[Goatscheese]

Those rose coloured glasses are a very deep shade of rose.
The team was coming 7th when he was moved on. They are now coming 8th.
He didn’t bring players to the club. Most of them are local.
Some of the players unhappy he was sacked??? Yes, his son but it really shouldn’t be a surprise. He has previously been sacked by Olympic, Jaffas, Newcastle SAP and Macquarie SAP. I am Valentine’s number 1 fan and I know what is going on. Ladies and gentlemen it’s the muppet show!

They have dropped a place since he was sacked, indeed does sound like the club is run by Kermit the Frog, are you Gonzo or Miss Piggy?

[Captain_Carl]

They have dropped a place since he was sacked, indeed does sound like the club is run by Kermit the Frog, are you Gonzo or Miss Piggy?

You know shit about football but I know a lot
I am a genius and you are a twat
Come Sunday to CB and see the green grass
Call me a muppet and I’ll kick your arse. :lol::lol:

[Bremsstrahlung]

Doesn’t it get old?

[Goatscheese]

You know shit about football but I know a lot
I am a genius and you are a twat
Come Sunday to CB and see the green grass
Call me a muppet and I’ll kick your arse. :lol::lol:

Youth are playing at Jack McLaughlin, we'll see how good the 13s are I guess.

[Captain_Carl]

Youth are playing at Jack McLaughlin, we'll see how good the 13s are I guess.

Wrong buddy. Youth are playing at Croudace Bay. I will be there cheering them on like a mad wild dog.

[Goatscheese]

Wrong buddy. Youth are playing at Croudace Bay. I will be there cheering them on like a mad wild dog.

I'll keep an eye out for the pork chop

[Hurricane]

I'll keep an eye out for the pork chop

He won't be hard to miss

[KITZ]

Valo beat edgy 2-1. I probably would have picked edgy in the 13s today, but it’s really congested at the top of the ladder for 3rd and 4th a win or a loss gets you in and out of that position every week for the 13s, this close to finals probably more of a mental game knowing they need to win to get through. Maitland lost to the buds as well. Does anyone know what happened at Weston game today? That was a massive blow out for them. Lakes lost their keeper today after he was kicked in the face which made things hard against top of the ladder mid coast. Wondering if something similar happened?

[Captain_Carl]

I'll keep an eye out for the pork chop

Goatscheese was not only wrong about the venue but he failed to find any pork chops. Valo 13s destroyed Edgy’s chance of finals and with it any hope of Goatscheese being able to gloat. Shove that up ya muppet! Go Valo!

P.S. Hurricane the only thing not hard to miss is your lack of intelligence.

[samcan]

Cant sleep at 3.51am? :rof:

[Goatscheese]

Goatscheese was not only wrong about the venue but he failed to find any pork chops. Valo 13s destroyed Edgy’s chance of finals and with it any hope of Goatscheese being able to gloat. Shove that up ya muppet! Go Valo!

P.S. Hurricane the only thing not hard to miss is your lack of intelligence.

Didn't see you Miss Piggy cause I wasn't going to bother getting up early to go watch two teams I'm not involved in.

Talking about results though, how was Edgy 14s securing a spot in the finals by destroying Valo 9-1. Go Edgy!

How about Edgy 15s winning the Premiership by dominating Valo 4-0 Go Edgy

Or Edgy 16s who haven't even won half their games this year beating Valo 2-0

But yeah nah Go Valo, keep walking champ.

[Hurricane]

Goatscheese was not only wrong about the venue but he failed to find any pork chops. Valo 13s destroyed Edgy’s chance of finals and with it any hope of Goatscheese being able to gloat. Shove that up ya muppet! Go Valo!

P.S. Hurricane the only thing not hard to miss is your lack of intelligence.

Jeepers Creepers

[Negative Police]

Charles 13s retaining 6 or so certainties, the rest up to trialists or targeted invitations.

Imagine the merry go round is on full tilt now for all clubs.

[Captain_Carl]

Jeepers Creepers

I didn’t do any Jeepers Creepers on the weekend Hurricane because I was afraid you would come over and crash tackle me. Jeepers Creepers yeah! Hey it’s a beautiful day!

[Goatscheese]

Jeepers Creepers

16 goals scored against Valo in one day is Jeepers Creepers

[Captain_Carl]

16 goals scored against Valo in one day is Jeepers Creepers

The Valo 13s won. They are the team you were questioning. They knocked Edgy out of finals contention. Jeepers Creepers you are a dope Goatscheese.

[Hunter403]

The Valo 13s won. They are the team you were questioning. They knocked Edgy out of finals contention. Jeepers Creepers you are a dope Goatscheese.

Valentine NPL table positions
13 8th
14 8th
15 12th (last)
16 9th
18s 10th (last)
Res 9th (2nd last)
1st 8th

The 13s are 8th and their equal best performing team. Good result against Edgy but, based on table positions, unexpected.

Love your passion Carl, but that is a pretty poor result for the club overall and its been that way for some time. For whatever reason, better players just don't seem to want to play there.

[Captain_Carl]

Valentine NPL table positions
13 8th
14 8th
15 12th (last)
16 9th
18s 10th (last)
Res 9th (2nd last)
1st 8th

The 13s are 8th and their equal best performing team. Good result against Edgy but, based on table positions, unexpected.

Love your passion Carl, but that is a pretty poor result for the club overall and its been that way for some time. For whatever reason, better players just don't seem to want to play there.

It’s not great is it? I think some of those teams next year will perform better.

[KITZ]

Charlestown has half a team of 12-year-olds who most likely will be playing 13's again next year (if they stay I suppose).

The highest number of retained players I've heard of so far is 8 in that age group. Anyone got any teams who have retained more than that?

[Goatscheese]

It’s not great is it? I think some of those teams next year will perform better.

Just need better supporters I reckon

[Hurricane]

Just need better supporters I reckon
Maybe all of the young kids are scared of the Jeepers Creepers. It was a pretty scary movie

[Bull fighter]

Valentine NPL table positions
13 8th
14 8th
15 12th (last)
16 9th
18s 10th (last)
Res 9th (2nd last)
1st 8th

The 13s are 8th and their equal best performing team. Good result against Edgy but, based on table positions, unexpected.

Love your passion Carl, but that is a pretty poor result for the club overall and its been that way for some time. For whatever reason, better players just don't seem to want to play there.

There is a bit more to the story brother, Valentine were promoted in 2016 from NEWFM after demotion from NPL in 2014, they were very strong in the lower ages then lost a host of juniors. Some other clubs have had a similar path, Maitland were promoted in 2015 & Lake Macquarie in 2017 and if you look at the performances of all these Junior teams there is almost a direct correlation of results and time back at the top level. Rebuilding doesn't happen overnight. Of course there are other factors involved but with the new facility not far away one would expect continued improvement in their results in the youth divisions. (I didn't include seniors because it is separate thread)
13's - Maitland - 4th
13's - Valentine 8th
13's - Lake Macquarie - 13th (Last)

14's - Maitland - 5th
14's - Valentine 8th
14's - Lake Macquarie - 12th (Last)

15's - Maitland - 5th
15's - Lake Macquarie - 8th
15's - Valentine 12th (last)

16's - Maitland - 7th
16's - Valentine 9th
16's - Lake Macquarie - 11th

[Captain_Carl]

Charlestown has half a team of 12-year-olds who most likely will be playing 13's again next year (if they stay I suppose).

The highest number of retained players I've heard of so far is 8 in that age group. Anyone got any teams who have retained more than that?

I believe Magic have retained most but are losing a couple to the Jets. My spirit guide told me Valentine have also retained 8 and Edgeworth 10.

[Captain_Carl]

Maybe all of the young kids are scared of the Jeepers Creepers. It was a pretty scary movie

People don’t say that I am scary. They just say I am loud. I don’t apologise for that because I think there should be more vocal supporters. Jeepers creepers yeah!

[KITZ]

I believe Magic have retained most but are losing a couple to the Jets. My spirit guide told me Valentine have also retained 8 and Edgeworth 10.

hmm, does that mean the jets have pulled boys in for train on for next year already? I know there was a few taken at the last minute with the move to the Sydney comp.

[Captain_Carl]

hmm, does that mean the jets have pulled boys in for train on for next year already? I know there was a few taken at the last minute with the move to the Sydney comp.

I am talking about the 12 year old former Jets kids playing in U13 NPL. Magic had a few and 2 of them (to my knowledge) have been selected for the 2021 U13 Jets.

[W8 WATCHER]

People don’t say that I am scary. They just say I am loud. I don’t apologise for that because I think there should be vocal supporters. Jeepers creepers yeah!

Hey CC
all for being vocal, and supporting your team, however the crap I was hearing on bartv , was over the top, annoying and comments you would expect from a 2 year old.:wtf:

[Captain_Carl]

Hey CC
all for being vocal, and supporting your team, however the crap I was hearing on bartv , was over the top, annoying and comments you would expect from a 2 year old.:wtf:

Go Valo!
Go Valentine!
Come on Phoenix!
Hey it’s a beautiful day!
Jeepers creepers yeah!
Scotty Gunster for prime mininster!

I am so sorry you are offended by these but in future I will do them more often and louder. I am so glad I got some great publicity and I appreciate the work bartv does. God bless Valentine.

[KITZ]

I am talking about the 12 year old former Jets kids playing in U13 NPL. Magic had a few and 2 of them (to my knowledge) have been selected for the 2021 U13 Jets.

Ah. That makes sense! Will be interesting to see how those 13s will go now they aren’t coming through from the jets SAP program now it’s changed.

[W8 WATCHER]

Go Valo!
Go Valentine!
Come on Phoenix!
Hey it’s a beautiful day!
Jeepers creepers yeah!
Scotty Gunster for prime mininster!

I am so sorry you are offended by these but in future I will do them more often and louder. I am so glad I got some great publicity and I appreciate the work bartv does. God bless Valentine.

yes mate you sure did
special publicity, for a special person at a special place
* careful though ,a white van is still looking for you, so they can escort you to a special place, along with the unicorns.

[furns]

You reckon you two could lay off the juvenile passive-aggressive insults?

[Beaver]

Agree 100% , they ( captain Carl & co, you know who you are!) are spoiling this forum for us true football fans, take your rubbbish elsewhere

[Captain_Carl]

Agree 100% , they ( captain Carl & co, you know who you are!) are spoiling this forum for us true football fans, take your rubbbish elsewhere

I cheer at games and people attack me for that. I defend myself. That is not rubbish. That is me exercising the 2nd amendment with my right to bear arms. I will be at the Adamstown vs Valentine youth games tomorrow morning (unarmed). I will be cheering there. Come say hello and we can talk about youth football.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I don’t think anyone has a problem with people supporting or being passionate about the teams they support. I’ve enjoyed reading some of Carl’s constructive comments regarding valentine in some other threads.

A bit of banter doesn’t hurt, but when it turns into pages of petty stupid comments it gets a bit much. Especially when insults starts to become personal, a few of you probably have an idea who Carl is (based on comments) and I doubt he/she knows who you are, so I think personal attacks and inappropriate comments are a bit unfair.

People are entitled to opinions and occasionally they differ to the norm, which isn’t a bad thing. Respect it, reply constructively and let’s not stoop to a level below the ages being discussed here.

[The Hacker]

I don’t think anyone has a problem with people supporting or being passionate about the teams they support. I’ve enjoyed reading some of Carl’s constructive comments regarding valentine in some other threads.

A bit of banter doesn’t hurt, but when it turns into pages of petty stupid comments it gets a bit much. Especially when insults starts to become personal, a few of you probably have an idea who Carl is (based on comments) and I doubt he/she knows who you are, so I think personal attacks and inappropriate comments are a bit unfair.

People are entitled to opinions and occasionally they differ to the norm, which isn’t a bad thing. Respect it, reply constructively and let’s not stoop to a level below the ages being discussed here.

Amen

[KITZ]

I don’t think anyone has a problem with people supporting or being passionate about the teams they support. I’ve enjoyed reading some of Carl’s constructive comments regarding valentine in some other threads.

A bit of banter doesn’t hurt, but when it turns into pages of petty stupid comments it gets a bit much. Especially when insults starts to become personal, a few of you probably have an idea who Carl is (based on comments) and I doubt he/she knows who you are, so I think personal attacks and inappropriate comments are a bit unfair.

People are entitled to opinions and occasionally they differ to the norm, which isn’t a bad thing. Respect it, reply constructively and let’s not stoop to a level below the ages being discussed here.

:thumbsup:

[Aegon]

Are NPL Youth finals top 4 or top 5?

[The Magician]

Are NPL Youth finals top 4 or top 5?

Top 4

[Hunter403]

Semis
Saturday at Weston
13s Olympic v Magic 8am
14s Magic v Edgeworth 10am
15s Olympic v Lambton 2pm
16s Lambton v North Coast 12pm

at LMRFF
18s Olympic v Magic 5.45pm Field 1
18s Lambton v Lakes 5.45pm Field 2


Sunday at Darling Street
13 Mid Coast v Maitland 10am
14s Olympic v Adamstown 8am
15s Edgeworth v Magic 12pm
16s Olympic v Adamstown 2pm

Please note that the games are not necessarily in age order.

[Reds Forever]

Any idea why 8am starts and why Weston are hosting games when have no teams in finals?

[Hunter403]

Home teams don't matter in youth semis. They play them at the same ground regardless of who makes it or who doesn't.

Certain grounds get more use over the years than others. Magic, Darling St, Edgy and Weston are regular hosts. I'm sure it is about ground quality...

As for the times, I would guess that it is to accommodate the travelling of the Mid and North Coast teams and to allow fro extra time and pens (if required)

[Reds Forever]

Home teams don't matter in youth semis. They play them at the same ground regardless of who makes it or who doesn't.

Certain grounds get more use over the years than others. Magic, Darling St, Edgy and Weston are regular hosts. I'm sure it is about ground quality...

As for the times, I would guess that it is to accommodate the travelling of the Mid and North Coast teams and to allow for extra time and pens (if required)

I thought host was based on highest placed U16 team. Meaning Olympic and Jaffas would host. Stand corrected if wrong.

Kick off times make no sense as North Coast and Mid North Coast have been playing away games at 9am and 3pm all season. Unsure what moving them to 10am and 12pm achieves but impact other teams and age groups. Can't be due to extra time either as all games have normal 2 hours with kicks off being 8am, 10am, 12pm and 2pm instead of normal 9am, 11am, 1pm and 3pm.

[Hunter403]

I thought host was based on highest placed U16 team. Meaning Olympic and Jaffas would host. Stand corrected if wrong.

Kick off times make no sense as North Coast and Mid North Coast have been playing away games at 9am and 3pm all season. Unsure what moving them to 10am and 12pm achieves but impact other teams and age groups. Can't be due to extra time either as all games have normal 2 hours with kicks off being 8am, 10am, 12pm and 2pm instead of normal 9am, 11am, 1pm and 3pm.

Northern move in mysterious ways...

[Goatscheese]

I thought host was based on highest placed U16 team. Meaning Olympic and Jaffas would host. Stand corrected if wrong.

Clearly wrong, normally Northern will ask clubs will speak to clubs about who can and wants to host and then allocate based on that. For youth they normally don't care who hosts.

As for timings, well that's Northern for you

[Joao Pinto]

Why would they not play 18s after 16s games?

[Jim]

scores today
U13s Broadmeadow 5-0 Olympic
U14s Broadmeadow 3-0 Edgeworth
U16s Jaffas 1-1 on penalties v North Coast
U15s Jaffas 2-1 Olympic

The U16s North Coast team previously won 13s 14s 15s grandfinals. great effort

[Hunter403]

scores today
U13s Broadmeadow 5-0 Olympic
U14s Broadmeadow 3-0 Edgeworth
U16s Jaffas 1-1 on penalties v North Coast
U15s Jaffas 2-1 Olympic

The U16s North Coast team previously won 13s 14s 15s grandfinals. great effort

All wins to the teams that came 3rd.

[Reds Forever]

Magic u14 came second as well as Lambton u16.

[Hunter403]

Magic u14 came second as well as Lambton u16.

I stand corrected

[KITZ]

Any updates from today’s games?

[Eastwest]

13s Mid Coast 2- 0
14s Olympic 6-1?
15s Edgy 2-2 won on Pens

[Negative Police]

16s Olympic 3-0

[mge61]

Well done to all the minor premiers making it through to the GF’s next weekend. Should be an entertaining day with the Jets vs Edgie wrapping up the days proceedings.

[Reds Forever]

Well done to all the minor premiers making it through to the GF’s next weekend. Should be an entertaining day with the Jets vs Edgie wrapping up the days proceedings.

So Grand Finals at Edgeworth? What day?

[Reds Forever]

13s Mid Coast 2- 0
14s Olympic 6-1?
15s Edgy 2-2 won on Pens

Maitland very unlucky to lose the U13. Pushed Mid Coast all the way with turning point being a silly challenge in box when player already on a yellow. Penalty given as well as second yellow. Second goal came straight after kick off and was enough.

[Joao Pinto]

Have heard 13,14,15 Saturday at Edgy and 16 & 18 on Sunday at Maitland. Can't wait to see what weird and wonderful kick off times Northern will come up with???

[KITZ]

Maitland very unlucky to lose the U13. Pushed Mid Coast all the way with turning point being a silly challenge in box when player already on a yellow. Penalty given as well as second yellow. Second goal came straight after kick off and was enough.

maybe, but Maitland had a right shocker against lakes the week before, was nil-all at half time, ended up going down 4-nil but not what I would have expected from a top of the table team against the bottom, if lakes had any ability to score this season it could have been a different game.

Should be an interesting grand final though!

Glad we got a full season of football, could have gone either way this year under the circumstances.

[Reds Forever]

Don't really care about their Lakes game. Am talking about the semi final.

End of the day, they still beat lakes 4-0. Maybe they lowered themselves to level of opposition. Maybe they tested players and gave extended minutes to squad players.

[Negative Police]

Don't really care about their Lakes game. Am talking about the semi final.

End of the day, they still beat lakes 4-0. Maybe they lowered themselves to level of opposition. Maybe they tested players and gave extended minutes to squad players.
Exactly. why bother trying to gloat about last.

Maitland had Mid C going backwards in the last 20 of the 1st half and should have gone into ht up by 1.

[Joao Pinto]

That’s the way they roll! Obviously didn’t fancy their own keeper and locked the 16s keeper in cupboard and pretended they couldn’t locate him. That’s ok, 15s keeper is available now this weekend.............like that’s going to happen!!!

[KITZ]

Don't really care about their Lakes game. Am talking about the semi final.

End of the day, they still beat lakes 4-0. Maybe they lowered themselves to level of opposition. Maybe they tested players and gave extended minutes to squad players.

have a bit of cry more why don't you. lol. Doesnt bother me, they played rubbish the week before they had a semi final to play. no skin off my nose. what a bunch of babies in this forum.

[KITZ]

Exactly. why bother trying to gloat about last.

Maitland had Mid C going backwards in the last 20 of the 1st half and should have gone into ht up by 1.

not gloating stating facts, if people cant hack when their team plays a bad week they should get out of football. some of us have a bit more resilience than that. If mid coast had a bad game in their semi then so be it. Jesus. how do you expect players to learn the mental game thats part of football if you lot live in constant denial. the maitland game was one of lakes better games amongst a tough year when they also had some rubbish games. I have no issues with that either.

[KITZ]

[QUOTE=Joao Pinto;242961]That’s the way they roll! Obviously didn’t fancy their own keeper and locked the 16s keeper in cupboard and pretended they couldn’t locate him. That’s ok, 15s keeper is available now this weekend.............like that’s going to happen!!![/QUOTE

1st grade was dropped, ressies refuses as too good for , then appears on bench in final and g/final for a medal
now plays 18's final.
20-21 allowed to play 18's :wtf:
embarrassing

The only reason a goal keeper can play down is with a medical certificate, Had to go through that this season at the last minute with an injury a couple of days before a game. Shouldn't be hard to know if they have done the wrong thing. Should be a warning for goalkeepers wanting to play there though, when it matters they won't back you to play up an age, they'd bring a keeper down instead. Its not what you want to see in youth football. Unless they have injuries across the board, but thats a lot of injuries all at the same time.

[The Magician]

That’s the way they roll! Obviously didn’t fancy their own keeper and locked the 16s keeper in cupboard and pretended they couldn’t locate him. That’s ok, 15s keeper is available now this weekend.............like that’s going to happen!!!

I'll credit that comment to a micro stroke. I strongly suggest you actually find out the keeper situation which afflicted the club in the youth spaces this season. Talk to a few parents from the program. If you know why the 16's and 18's keepers are unavailable and have still made that comment, and you have children of your own that play football then karma should be returned 10 fold and curse your seed from this planet as you are an absolute disgrace of a human being.

All keeper decisions approved by NNSWF, there is no reason to justify on this cancer of a forum.

[Yaa Yaa]

can someone confirm if true
magic 18's played there dropped 1st grade keeper L.Watson against Olympic
he has to be 20-21 years of age,
surely if true, NNSW F would penalise magic, and Olympic go through to final
** things you do to win a medal

Do you really think magic would play him without NNSW approval or a good excuse? Think about it you idiots. If you didn’t know the reason then I’ll tell you just so you can look like an even bigger dickhead along with your mate pinto. The 16s keeper has had cancer for a while and now it’s at the point of no return I’ve been told by a reliable source, the poor kid doesn’t have long to live so I suggest you dickhead dads pull your heads in as there is more to life then local football.
Can’t imagine how his family and the club feel right now without having to read about competitive dads that are living through their kids on football forums. Get a life you losers.

[early_to_the_match]

[QUOTE=Joao Pinto;242961]That’s the way they roll! Obviously didn’t fancy their own keeper and locked the 16s keeper in cupboard and pretended they couldn’t locate him. That’s ok, 15s keeper is available now this weekend.............like that’s going to happen!!![/QUOTE

1st grade was dropped, ressies refuses as too good for , then appears on bench in final and g/final for a medal
now plays 18's final.
20-21 allowed to play 18's :wtf:
embarrassing
Unfortunately Magic will probably have a couple of field players of the right age that have played all year, but won't get game time on GF day. They could have taken up the gloves. It's not like playing in goals is a health and safety issue.
Hopefully their striker isn't having a bad hair day and they call in Virgili because the back ups are also suddenly uncontactable.

[Reds Forever]

have a bit of cry more why don't you. lol. Doesnt bother me, they played rubbish the week before they had a semi final to play. no skin off my nose. what a bunch of babies in this forum.

Ahh Kitty. Where have I had a cry? I was talking about my opinion on Maitland semi final and how they had chances to win and threw it away with one silly challenge in the box. This backed up my another member.

You then rubbished my opinion by referring to a different game.

It obviously does bother you for you to reply like you did. Why animosity towards Maitland U13? Maybe you need to grow up.

[Reds Forever]

[QUOTE=W8 WATCHER;242964]

The only reason a goal keeper can play down is with a medical certificate, Had to go through that this season at the last minute with an injury a couple of days before a game. Shouldn't be hard to know if they have done the wrong thing. Should be a warning for goalkeepers wanting to play there though, when it matters they won't back you to play up an age, they'd bring a keeper down instead. Its not what you want to see in youth football. Unless they have injuries across the board, but thats a lot of injuries all at the same time.

Wrong again Kitty. Magic do back their keepers to play up. Their U15 keeper for season is actually U14. At one stage, he was the only keeper available due to injuries/illness. Below are his stats for year which show he covered all age groups from U13 to U16.

U16 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 4 2020-10-18
U15 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 15 2020-11-15
U14 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 10 2020-11-14
U13 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 1 2020-10-04

[Reds Forever]

They can tell you what they want, the clubs can't make formal offers and if they are they risk sanction. which was the whole point of the conversation that was happening here.

Also, just to reply to your LAZY fact checking, lakes 15's are currently 8th, but have been up around 5th, the 18s are 5th and their reserve grade is 6th (above Edgeworth, mind you, but don't let facts get in the way of a rant). They most years have to take kids from community at 13 and build them through to where they are competing more in the older age groups, they haven't had the opportunity like some clubs where entire SAP teams are handed over to them. Its pretty easy to achieve when someone has already developed your players for you, its a lot more work and coaching when you are developing them yourself, considering they didn't have a feeder like jaffas/olympic/magic.

In regards to SAP, I'm not sure what your level of imaginary rating is, since its supposed to be an individual skills development program not a team based football strategy program at 9-12 and people like you have destroyed the decent program it once was and turned it into a dick measuring competition.

While they might not be winning in first grade, they just debuted a 17-year-old goalkeeper, and have multiple players signed at other clubs that they have developed through to first grade. What they aren't doing is signing retired a-league players and having their youth leave because theres no where to go after youth NPL for them, they are specifically trying to develop kids through. You know since this forum is about YOUTH NPL.

They have kids playing up regularly, I know some that went from 15's, 16s, 18's to reserves in a space of a season, and they have just signed a heap of decent coaching staff heading into next season. they have also just launched a rebrand, I mean in a year when football might not have even happened and the sponsorship money is hard to come by, the club has done a heck of a lot of work.

That and they are a decent bunch of people to be around that don't have players spitting, abusing parents on the sidelines and racially abusing other teams. I mean sure I'm sure that behaviour is a great way to develop players for any professional league because the publicity on that always goes so well for football clubs.

Some of us can actually manage a conversation here. I think you need to find something else to do, and let the people that can manage coherent sentences actually converse.

Anyway on another subject has anyone heard if TSP will be starting up next year again?

Sounds like you are really happy at Lakes. Will your child be staying there for season 2021 or looking for opportunities at other NPL clubs?

[Negative Police]

Ahh Kitty. Where have I had a cry? I was talking about my opinion on Maitland semi final and how they had chances to win and threw it away with one silly challenge in the box. This backed up my another member.

You then rubbished my opinion by referring to a different game.

It obviously does bother you for you to reply like you did. Why animosity towards Maitland U13? Maybe you need to grow up.

Ignore him.

He's emotional baby. happy to insult but cant handle the retort.

Maito did well this year in nearly all grades. Well done.

[KITZ]

Pretty sure I’ve managed to cope with all of the retorts especially coming from you who still seems to not be able
To grasp that everyone on these forums ISNT NECESSARILY MALE.

[Reds Forever]

Info from Edgeworth FB page:

Youth Grand Final Day Information:

We are receiving a lot of requests & messages in regards to the Youth NPL Grand Final Day on Saturday.

This day is being run by Northern NSW Football (not EEFC), we are just hosting the day. Due to Covid requirements & restrictions, the day will be a ticketed event. If you do not have a ticket, NNSWF staff will not let you in.

Each team in a Grand Final has only been allocated 100 tickets which have been allocated to the players immediate family only. Those tickets are valid for their game only. The ground will be vacated after each game so those with tickets to the next one can enter.

We appreciate & understand that everyone wants to get out & support their team, particularly our very own 15s, but unfortunately this is not able to happen.

We will keep everyone updated as to how the games are progressing during the day as much as possible!

Thanks for your understanding,

EEFC

[KITZ]

We have been treated really well at lakes and I would recommend them as a decent bunch of people who are easy to get along with, especially for kids that aren’t afraid of a bit of hard work. At this stage it really depends on what else he is offered, he’s got specific things he now is looking for out of any club along with what’s best for his individual development, bar moving up a division / going to Sydney/ or going overseas later on, but it has made him understand what he needs from any club he is at, be it lakes or anywhere else.

But honestly anything he does now is going to be easier not harder for him having started in NPL where he has. People read the ladder how they will but for him personally it’s developed him on a way we wouldn’t have expected, i always thought it was going to be a make him or break him sort of season, and he really thrived on it, a handful of them really stepped up, it just takes a whole team of them stepping up which is where they struggled. I think that’s why you see them succeeding in the older age groups rather than the younger ones.

[KITZ]

[QUOTE=KITZ;242966]

Wrong again Kitty. Magic do back their keepers to play up. Their U15 keeper for season is actually U14. At one stage, he was the only keeper available due to injuries/illness. Below are his stats for year which show he covered all age groups from U13 to U16.

U16 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 4 2020-10-18
U15 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 15 2020-11-15
U14 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 10 2020-11-14
U13 - NPL Northern NSW 2020 1 2020-10-04

The post was regarding semis and grand finals. Not the normal season. The whole “when it matters” part of the post.

Why does a club like magic need a 14s keeper to play as their 15s and 14s keeper outside of injury, which is what it sounds like you are saying unless I’m wrong?

Sad to hear about their keeper though, not great news, that’s terrible.

[Goatscheese]

[QUOTE=Reds Forever;242984]

The post was regarding semis and grand finals. Not the normal season. The whole “when it matters” part of the post.

Why does a club like magic need a 14s keeper to play as their 15s and 14s keeper outside of injury, which is what it sounds like you are saying unless I’m wrong?

Sad to hear about their keeper though, not great news, that’s terrible.

Never mind the keepers everyone who actually has any knowledge on Magic keepers this year knows what has happened. We can look instead at Magic playing a bunch of players that had played 15s all year being dropped to play in the 14s semi final. Also feel bad for those kids, work hard to get your team into 2nd place and then when it comes down to it the club shunts you to the side.

[samcan]

Clubs are going to run their teams as they see fit. Too many reasons to count.

Ultimately it's about getting the best team on the park to get the result at this end of the season.

[Goatscheese]

Clubs are going to run their teams as they see fit. Too many reasons to count.

Ultimately it's about getting the best team on the park to get the result at this end of the season.

Not sure if making sure you win the $2 medallion in the U13s the best result for the players.

[mge61]

Northern at it again. Youth GF's this weekend limited to 100 tickets for each team in each game. Each game is a separate ticketed event so ground getting cleared out between games as was the case in the seniors last Sunday week. Last Sunday at Darling Street for the semis hundreds of people, no sign in or social distancing despite the repeated announcements over the PA system and Duty Officers getting about. Repeat of the senior semis where hundreds were in attendance and then locking down for the GF. Is there some logical answer to all this that I'm not seeing?

[Reds Forever]

Plus each team's parents have to provide 6 duty officers.

Speers Point they allow 500 in. First grade are allowed 500 in.

Bet Jets trial game will have more then 500 at same ground.

[Negative Police]

No tix or worries for semis. Then GF is Covid. aholes

[Hunter403]

Grand final weekend
Less supporters than semi final weekend (thanks NNSWF)

Saturday at Edgy
9am - u13 - Mid North Coast v Magic
11.30 - u14 - Olympic v Magic
2pm - u15 - Edgeworth vs Jaffas

Sunday at Maitland
9am - u16 - Olympic vs Jaffas

4 excellent matches.
u16 could be interesting after the last meeting with a couple of Olympic players given their marching orders. No backward steps here!!
u15 Edgy unbeaten this year but with two draws against Jaffas (with one of them being against a 10 man Jaffas) this will be an arm wrestle.
u14 can you go past this goal machine aka Olympic?
u13 after a great season, Mid Coast to win.

[Goatscheese]

Northern at it again. Youth GF's this weekend limited to 100 tickets for each team in each game. Each game is a separate ticketed event so ground getting cleared out between games as was the case in the seniors last Sunday week. Last Sunday at Darling Street for the semis hundreds of people, no sign in or social distancing despite the repeated announcements over the PA system and Duty Officers getting about. Repeat of the senior semis where hundreds were in attendance and then locking down for the GF. Is there some logical answer to all this that I'm not seeing?

The difference is that the clubs hosting the semi-finals while it is Northern hosting the grand final. Despite being at Edgeworth it isn't Edgeworth running the day but Northern.

[Goatscheese]

4 excellent matches.
u16 could be interesting after the last meeting with a couple of Olympic players given their marching orders. No backward steps here!!
u15 Edgy unbeaten this year but with two draws against Jaffas (with one of them being against a 10 man Jaffas) this will be an arm wrestle.
u14 can you go past this goal machine aka Olympic?
u13 after a great season, Mid Coast to win.

U14s will be interesting since neither side have met each other this year as both clubs decided to wash each other out to secure the point each.

[mge61]

The difference is that the clubs hosting the semi-finals while it is Northern hosting the grand final. Despite being at Edgeworth it isn't Edgeworth running the day but Northern.

Understand that but the competition is sanctioned by NNSW and week in week out clubs are allowed to virtually do what they like. Comes to the big dance and they want to be seen to be doing the right thing.

[BS detecor]

Grand final weekend
Less supporters than semi final weekend (thanks NNSWF)

Saturday at Edgy
9am - u13 - Mid North Coast v Magic
11.30 - u14 - Olympic v Magic
2pm - u15 - Edgeworth vs Jaffas

Sunday at Maitland
9am - u16 - Olympic vs Jaffas

4 excellent matches.
u16 could be interesting after the last meeting with a couple of Olympic players given their marching orders. No backward steps here!!
u15 Edgy unbeaten this year but with two draws against Jaffas (with one of them being against a 10 man Jaffas) this will be an arm wrestle.
u14 can you go past this goal machine aka Olympic?
u13 after a great season, Mid Coast to win.

Olympic 16s have bottled it 3 years in a row, surely they win it this year

[Thomas477]

Jeez that Lambton 15s coach did really well this year. Congrats!

[Hunter403]

Jeez that Lambton 15s coach did really well this year. Congrats!

Apparently not well enough to be retained...

[Negative Police]

Apparently not well enough to be retained...

Retention has nothing to do with this job well done.

Not as bad as the fat Magic U14 parent yelling at the ref he was a cheating time waster and arguing with the Olympic player.
What is it with the grub culture at that club?

[ForeverRed]

16s 2.1 olympic

[Onehunglow]

Olympic 16s have bottled it 3 years in a row, surely they win it this year
This was their second GF appearance in the 4 years they've been in the comp.

[BS detecor]

This was their second GF appearance in the 4 years they've been in the comp.

I know, for a team that only lost 6 games in 4 years plus 2 semis and a GF. They were due

[Onehunglow]

I know, for a team that only lost 6 games in 4 years plus 2 semis and a GF. They were due

They are a quality outfit and they deserved to win a GF for sure.

[samcan]

They are a quality outfit and they deserved to win a GF for sure.

I hadnt watched them much before but they had a lot of long ball in that direct attack. surprised me. Was expecting a clinical passing game to get those results.

[BS detecor]

I hadnt watched them much before but they had a lot of long ball in that direct attack. surprised me. Was expecting a clinical passing game to get those results.
Yep, lots of long balls and pace up front but it gets the results I suppose. Not a lot of playing it out from the back

[Bremsstrahlung]

Interesting.
I don’t mind it when teams play direct.
I think it’s just as valid a tactic as any. Not saying the above was whinging, but historically there’s been arguments that long ball is rubbish and shouldn’t be used etc. I think it a) teaches the offensive team to use that tactic, and identify when it can be used most productively. And b) it helps teams come up against this and learn how to counteract this tactic.

If Australia win the World Cup from long ball, I ain’t gonna be complaining.
Similarly so, if a team wins NPL by scoring from long balls, fair play to them.

If that’s the only tactic they have, it’s a pretty easy solution for opposition coaches/clubs, but the fact they have success tells me that’s not their only trick.

[samcan]

Interesting.
I don’t mind it when teams play direct.
I think it’s just as valid a tactic as any. Not saying the above was whinging, but historically there’s been arguments that long ball is rubbish and shouldn’t be used etc. I think it a) teaches the offensive team to use that tactic, and identify when it can be used most productively. And b) it helps teams come up against this and learn how to counteract this tactic.

If Australia win the World Cup from long ball, I ain’t gonna be complaining.
Similarly so, if a team wins NPL by scoring from long balls, fair play to them.

If that’s the only tactic they have, it’s a pretty easy solution for opposition coaches/clubs, but the fact they have success tells me that’s not their only trick.

Id be near certain they could put a decent short game together. Just wondering if it is a club style thing.

[early_to_the_match]

I hadnt watched them much before but they had a lot of long ball in that direct attack. surprised me. Was expecting a clinical passing game to get those results.
In any knock-out game, and particularly grand finals, the aim is firstly to win, which includes adapting to your opponents.
But is this criticism of team tactics more tall poppy syndrome on your part rather than well informed knowledge of the game?

[Negative Police]

In any knock-out game, and particularly grand finals, the aim is firstly to win, which includes adapting to your opponents.
But is this criticism of team tactics more tall poppy syndrome on your part rather than well informed knowledge of the game?

Here we go again. Another offended twat. I didnt see any criticism but more observation of style.

[early_to_the_match]

Here we go again. Another offended twat. I didnt see any criticism but more observation of style.
So NP, you are upset that I replied to a post by samcan. Are you 2 related or the same person. And calling someone a "twat" hardly strengthens your point in an argument that doesn't even exist or involve you.

[Bremsstrahlung]

:deadhorse:

[KITZ]

:deadhorse:

agreed. 2 teams played in a GF someone asked about the style of play. a discussion was had. no one is jealous, there's no country being nuked by another. Replace the teams with any in the competition, the same discussion was had. You can win or lose a grand final and still learn something from it.

It's the same with SAP. when it was association run kids often moved clubs when their parents moved, or circumstances changed. no one got their knickers in a knot, it happened, the programs were similar across the board (maybe inherently this is the issue with the new program).

teenagers who have played against each other all season, get on the park and play a game of football together, instead of against each other (happens at the sports high every single week). Many have friends across teams, some they have from school, coming through SAP, or outside private training.

players who are serious about their sport can get on a field with a bunch of kids they have played against, or don't even know and play the same game of football, club football being one part of their development.

First graders move across clubs as well. So why is it that people can't have a discussion without thinking that it means you need to wage war about whatever club you associate with, or have your kids playing at?

[BS detecor]

Looks like a bunch of magic boys off to the Jets after a bunch of Jets boys went to the mariners

[Aegon]

Looks like a bunch of magic boys off to the Jets after a bunch of Jets boys went to the mariners

I saw the FB post - It's late to be backfilling player losses which will probably mean other clubs losing players to magic.

Did any of the other clubs in those age groups that had similarly talented teams (Olympic, Edgy, Jaffas, Buds) lose players as well?

[KITZ]

I saw the FB post - It's late to be backfilling player losses which will probably mean other clubs losing players to magic.

Did any of the other clubs in those age groups that had similarly talented teams (Olympic, Edgy, Jaffas, Buds) lose players as well?

Some of them would have been 12's playing 13's this year that have gone to playing 13's again with the jets. one or two of those were at the buds, olympic and a few at Charlestown.

[Aegon]

Some of them would have been 12's playing 13's this year that have gone to playing 13's again with the jets. one or two of those were at the buds, olympic and a few at Charlestown.

The post only called out players from the 14's, 15's and 16's though.

[KITZ]

The post only called out players from the 14's, 15's and 16's though.

because those boys would have been going into 14's next season, so the spots they are filling are their spots in the 14s since the rest of the 13's are now going to 14's.

[BS detecor]

I saw the FB post - It's late to be backfilling player losses which will probably mean other clubs losing players to magic.

Did any of the other clubs in those age groups that had similarly talented teams (Olympic, Edgy, Jaffas, Buds) lose players as well?

I think Olympic lost a couple. People asking why Olympic and magic attract a lot of young talent can probably start seeing why this is the case. For whatever reason, the majority of new recruits to the jets come from these 2 youth programs

[Reds Forever]

Majority of players have been taken from this year u14 team. Only 2 kids were U12 players from emerging Jets.

[BS detecor]

because those boys would have been going into 14's next season, so the spots they are filling are their spots in the 14s since the rest of the 13's are now going to 14's.

Nah, from what I’ve heard there has been a bunch of kids who have been picked in the mariners 15s. The 13s team was selected months ago

[KITZ]

Nah, from what I’ve heard there has been a bunch of kids who have been picked in the mariners 15s. The 13s team was selected months ago

Do you know what the movement is about from the jets to the mariners, I've heard that there has been movement from the jets NPL and WPL teams, is the quality of training etc better?

Just wondering what the difference is to add so much more travel into your week. Makes me tired thinking about it.

can't be ownership issues, since both clubs appear to be in the same place atm.

[BS detecor]

Do you know what the movement is about from the jets to the mariners, I've heard that there has been movement from the jets NPL and WPL teams, is the quality of training etc better?

Just wondering what the difference is to add so much more travel into your week. Makes me tired thinking about it.

can't be ownership issues, since both clubs appear to be in the same place atm.

Yeah easy, Mariners are NPL1 and FNSW politics leaves the Jets in NPL2 for another year

[KITZ]

Yeah easy, Mariners are NPL1 and FNSW politics leaves the Jets in NPL2 for another year

Ah. I thought they were leaving them in NPL1. Makes sense if they have been moved back down again.

[samcan]

Ah. I thought they were leaving them in NPL1. Makes sense if they have been moved back down again.

Were the Jets carving through NPL2 teams?

[BS detecor]

Were the Jets carving through NPL2 teams?

Yes, they would have been promoted easily but FNSW decided no pro/rel due to covid

[JettyJet]

Yes, they would have been promoted easily but FNSW decided no pro/rel due to covid

https://mens.nplnsw.com.au/club-championship-npl-2-youth/

[BS detecor]

https://mens.nplnsw.com.au/club-championship-npl-2-youth/

Thx, 14 points behind with 16 games in hand and all teams undefeated

[Texas Ranger]

Always a good result to be performing well at any level. But the real test will be playing against the other 36 clubs in the NPL1 and NPL2 White. I hope they are promoted quickly, as they deserve, otherwise they would have found far stronger opposition remaining with Northern, and certainly less travel.

[BS detecor]

Always a good result to be performing well at any level. But the real test will be playing against the other 36 clubs in the NPL1 and NPL2 White. I hope they are promoted quickly, as they deserve, otherwise they would have found far stronger opposition remaining with Northern, and certainly less travel.

They did that. Beat all the top teams in white. Played NPL1 teams in preseason and won, beat the mariners in a friendly. They might not finish top 4 or even top 6 in NPL1 but they would do ok and it would be much better for the supposed “best” players in the area to have a proper test every week.

[Negative Police]

Bullshit from the NSWnpl turds

[JettyJet]

They did that. Beat all the top teams in white. Played NPL1 teams in preseason and won, beat the mariners in a friendly. They might not finish top 4 or even top 6 in NPL1 but they would do ok and it would be much better for the supposed “best” players in the area to have a proper test every week.

Not quite.... 6 from 6 in 13,14's. 5 from 6 in 15's and 3 from 4 in NPL4.....
2.1 comp 5 from 5 in 13's, 4 from 5 in 14,15,16's and 3 from 5 in 18's...
Not very good for that level of play with a talent pool from Swansea to the QLD border.
And the seniors result's were diabolical!!

Not sure about friendly results, but they didn't beat the Mariners in all ages.

[BS detecor]

Not quite.... 6 from 6 in 13,14's. 5 from 6 in 15's and 3 from 4 in NPL4.....
2.1 comp 5 from 5 in 13's, 4 from 5 in 14,15,16's and 3 from 5 in 18's...
Not very good for that level of play with a talent pool from Swansea to the QLD border.
And the seniors result's were diabolical!!

Not sure about friendly results, but they didn't beat the Mariners in all ages.

The beat the mariners in 3 out of 4 age groups. A good day out in anyone’s language and it showed when the jets had full strength teams, they can match it with anyone.
Not sure what your axe to grind is but going by your username, there’s a history there. Fair enough, nobody said they were perfect or the best team in the land.
The mariners do have a well run program and I’m told from a few sources that a nice parental sponsorship will be favourably looked upon come retention time.

[Aegon]

News out of FNSW is that they are changing their structure for 2022 which will mean that there is no pro/rel in 2021.

The Jets Youth teams will not be able to promote until at least 2023!!

[JettyJet]

The beat the mariners in 3 out of 4 age groups. A good day out in anyone’s language and it showed when the jets had full strength teams, they can match it with anyone.
Not sure what your axe to grind is but going by your username, there’s a history there. Fair enough, nobody said they were perfect or the best team in the land.
The mariners do have a well run program and I’m told from a few sources that a nice parental sponsorship will be favourably looked upon come retention time.
They played them twice in 2020, I think. Mixed results. From the outside, they have a bigger/better talent pool start strong and then fall away as they get older.

[BS detecor]

News out of FNSW is that they are changing their structure for 2022 which will mean that there is no pro/rel in 2021.

The Jets Youth teams will not be able to promote until at least 2023!!

Doesn’t surprise me at all.
Northern: Nobody is more incompetent than us
FNSW: Hold my beer

[JettyJet]

Doesn’t surprise me at all.
Northern: Nobody is more incompetent than us
FNSW: Hold my beer

The FFA has to step in..This is not good for anybody.

[Reds Forever]

No relegation in 2021. Promotion will happen as they move comps from 12 teams to 16 teams.

[Aegon]

Doesn’t surprise me at all.
Northern: Nobody is more incompetent than us
FNSW: Hold my beer

:rof:

[BS detecor]

Can we just take a minute to say a prayer for a young magic lad who lost his battle this week and realise that life is more important than which club you play for. RIP young man. Say hello to Diego for me.

[Aegon]

Can we just take a minute to say a prayer for a young magic lad who lost his battle this week and realise that life is more important than which club you play for. RIP young man. Say hello to Diego for me.

RIP young lad. No life should end so young.

[Hunter403]

Can we just take a minute to say a prayer for a young magic lad who lost his battle this week and realise that life is more important than which club you play for. RIP young man. Say hello to Diego for me.

truly sad for someone so young to be lost to the world.

[Dontknowmuch]

Anyone know the scores between Edgeworth and the Mariners yesterday, interested to see the gap between the levels.

[JettyJet]

Anyone know the scores between Edgeworth and the Mariners yesterday, interested to see the gap between the levels.

Big gap I'd say.

[Hunter403]

Anyone know the scores between Edgeworth and the Mariners yesterday, interested to see the gap between the levels.

I heard that Edgy were soundly beaten and barely got out of their own half during the second half of the game.

[KITZ]

I heard that Edgy were soundly beaten and barely got out of their own half during the second half of the game.

What age group?

[Goatscheese]

What age group?

18s were dominated I heard the 4 youth teams was told they were all pretty close only one or 2 goals in it. I wasn't there to see any of them though

[JettyJet]

18s were dominated I heard the 4 youth teams was told they were all pretty close only one or 2 goals in it. I wasn't there to see any of them though
The 13's was 10 nil....

[KITZ]

The 13's was 10 nil....

I really don't judge anything by the 13's most of the time its a new group of kids coming together, some out of SAP, some community. Theres always blowouts in the comp in 13's just part of development and the scores narrow down as they get through to the older age groups when even the bottom of the ladder losses are only by a goal or two.

[JettyJet]

I really don't judge anything by the 13's most of the time its a new group of kids coming together, some out of SAP, some community. Theres always blowouts in the comp in 13's just part of development and the scores narrow down as they get through to the older age groups when even the bottom of the ladder losses are only by a goal or two.
There wasn't "one or 2 goals in it" though... was the point.
Another game had a 6 goal margin I'm told.

[Captain_Carl]

There wasn't "one or 2 goals in it" though... was the point.
Another game had a 6 goal margin I'm told.

Edgeworth vs Mariners
13s 8-0 Mariners
14s 3-1 Mariners
15s 4-1 Mariners
16s 5-0 Mariners

[Reds Forever]

Jaffas 14s lost to Jets 13s
Jaffas 15s beat Jets 14s
Jaffas 16s beat Jets 15s.
Jaffas 18s beat Jets 16s.

How are Valo shaping up for 2021? Keep all their strong juniors that flooded back this year?

[JettyJet]

Edgeworth vs Mariners
13s 8-0 Mariners
14s 3-1 Mariners
15s 4-1 Mariners
16s 5-0 Mariners
13s 10-0 Mariners
14s 3-1 Mariners
15s 4-1 Mariners
16s 7-1 Mariners
18's 4-0 Mariners

[BS detecor]

13s 10-0 Mariners
14s 3-1 Mariners
15s 4-1 Mariners
16s 7-1 Mariners
18's 4-0 Mariners

Age for age is a waste of time for everybody

[Hunter403]

13s 10-0 Mariners
14s 3-1 Mariners
15s 4-1 Mariners
16s 7-1 Mariners
18's 4-0 Mariners

I heard that their 18's got beaten by Kahibah 18's this week as well.

[Captain_Carl]

I heard that their 18's got beaten by Kahibah 18's this week as well.

Nah mate, Kahibah fielded some reserves and even first graders. Don’t get too excited everyone. Edgeworth Eagles are forever ❤️🖤🦅⚽️

[Hunter403]

Nah mate, Kahibah fielded some reserves and even first graders. Don’t get too excited everyone. Edgeworth Eagles are forever ❤️🖤🦅⚽️

Checked on this. Only 2 overage players, one being the keeper and the other played only 30 minutes.

[Thomas477]

Checked on this. Only 2 overage players, one being the keeper and the other played only 30 minutes.

:lulzturtle:

[Goatscheese]

Checked on this. Only 2 overage players, one being the keeper and the other played only 30 minutes.

Thanks for the actual truth

[Goatscheese]

Edgeworth Eagles are forever ❤️����⚽️

What happened to Valentine?


Go Valo!
Go Valentine!
Come on Phoenix!
Hey it’s a beautiful day!
Jeepers creepers yeah!
Scotty Gunster for prime mininster!

God bless Valentine.


Go Valo!


Valentine is a wonderful club. Nice colours. I love orange. Nice grounds surrounded by big shady trees. A really large number of players. A wonderful president and a high profile TD.


Hey buddy, they future of SAP is at Valentine FC. That is the club with the best supporter and the nicest trees.
Jeepers creepers yeah!


valentine‘s number one fan is loved by all. He is super smart and he’s a great supporter. The club loves him like a son.

Jeepers Creepers, what a turncoat

[Captain_Carl]

What happened to Valentine?









Jeepers Creepers, what a turncoat

I have always been an Eagles fan. I even wore the Eagles costume out on the field in the 2018 grand final at Hunter Stadium. Edgeworth Eagles are forever! ❤️🖤🦅⚽️
I just wanted to give Valentine some encouragement last season because they have nice colours.

[Goatscheese]

I have always been an Eagles fan. I even wore the Eagles costume out on the field in the 2018 grand final at Hunter Stadium. Edgeworth Eagles are forever! ❤️����⚽️
I just wanted to give Valentine some encouragement last season because they have nice colours.

Bullshit, doubt Edgy will tolerate you acting the same way during games, so might need to change

All of us at Valentine players and supporters are going to love games now without having to hear you shouting nonsense throughout the entire match

[KITZ]

Bullshit, doubt Edgy will tolerate you acting the same way during games, so might need to change

All of us at Valentine players and supporters are going to love games now without having to hear you shouting nonsense throughout the entire match

None of this has anything to do with youth NPL. Is it that hard to stay on topic?

[Jim]

None of this has anything to do with youth NPL. Is it that hard to stay on topic?

wrong. did you not read this over the last 6 months.

[Captain_Carl]

Bullshit, doubt Edgy will tolerate you acting the same way during games, so might need to change

All of us at Valentine players and supporters are going to love games now without having to hear you shouting nonsense throughout the entire match

The team will struggle without my support but I wish them well. This thread is for youth football buddy so stay on topic. Edgeworth youth will do well. Go Edgy!

[Goatscheese]

The team will struggle without my support but I wish them well. This thread is for youth football buddy so stay on topic. Edgeworth youth will do well. Go Edgy!

Probably go better really, I feel sorry for edgeworth

[Goatscheese]

None of this has anything to do with youth NPL. Is it that hard to stay on topic?

Half the posts I quoted him from were from this thread

[KITZ]

Half the posts I quoted him from were from this thread

It was mostly directed towards him, Apologies!