19/20 HAL Round 17 | Newcastle Jets v Western United | Sat 01/02/20 1700

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2019/20 Match day 17 Newcastle Jets v Western United

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 1 fixture between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 1 occasion in the A-League and on 0 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 1, United Wins - 0, Drawn - 0


In Newcastle – 0 matches.
Jets Wins - 0, United Wins - 0, Drawn - 0
In Geelong - 1 matches
Jets Wins - 1, United Wins - 0, Drawn - 0

Average Home A-League Crowd – 0
Average Away A-League Crowd - 5688

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 1, United - 0
In Newcastle -
Jets – 0, United - 0

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 1, United - 0

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 2 (2 yellow, 0 red), United 1 (1 yellow, 0 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (Thurgate 36') - Western United 0 at GMHBA Stadium, A-League, Round 6, Season 2019/20

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2019/20 Match day 6

Newcastle JetsWestern United
Glen MossFilip Kurto
Matthew MillarErsan Gulum
Lachlan JacksonAndrew Durante
Nikolai Topor-StanleyAaron Calver
John KoutroumbisJoshua Risdon
Steven UgarkovicConnor Pain
Ben KantarovskiConnor Chapman
Dimitri PetratosDario Jertec
Jason HoffmanAlessandro Diamanti
Nick FitzgeraldBesart Berisha
Angus ThurgateScott McDonald



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 1 (Thurgate 36') - Western United 0, Round 6, Season 2019/20 at GMHBA Stadium, 16/11/2019

Heaviest Defeat

N/A

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Angus Thurgate (1)
United - N/A



2019/20 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss12120110570000
2Bobby Burns95424670010
3Jason Hoffman14140512041020
4Nigel Boogaard44003600020
5Ben Kantarovski1310349370020
6Steven Ugarkovic14140112382110
9Abdiel Arroyo88066172100
10Dimitri Petratos14140012603420
11Nick Fitzgerald129377520010
14Kaine Sheppard5050880000
16Matthew Millar14140112422210
18John Koutroumbis138538280000
19Kosta Petratos2020250000
20Lewis Italiano32102030000
22Lachlan Jackson1111028800020
23Matthew Ridenton95424680010
28Patrick Langlois63303080020
31Maki Petratos101080000
32Angus Thurgate147746582110
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley14140012601020



COACHING


Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 defeats = 100% win ratio)
Mark Jones - No matches
Scott Miller - No matches
Phil Stubbins - No matches
Clayton Zane - No matches
Gary Van Egmond - No matches
Craig Deans - No matches
Branko Culina - No matches
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Richard Money - No matches

Western United Coach Record – Mark Rudan 50% win ratio (2 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss)

[Frodo]

We've never lost to these guys in the history of our club.

[Frodo]

Probably a good time to face them actually, big issues behind closed doors if rumours are true, pay issues, Rudan abusing players (as expected), stadium not happening and they might not even finish this season in the same stadium they started in.


I predict a 3-0 loss.

[MFKS]

We've never lost to these guys in the history of our club.

I am sure we can rectify that on Saturday

[baldrick]

38 degrees on Saturday.

Perfect for a 5pm kick off.

[StannyCFCJET]

Wes in the squad

[Couscous]

Rudan is a terrible coach who attracts nauseatingly fawning praise. He is far from clever tactically, and doesn't know how to manage other than through bullying.

[StannyCFCJET]

Rudan is a terrible coach who attracts nauseatingly fawning praise. He is far from clever tactically, and doesn't know how to manage other than through bullying.

Terrible person as well it seems

[MFKS]

Rudan is a terrible coach who attracts nauseatingly fawning praise. He is far from clever tactically, and doesn't know how to manage other than through bullying.

Reminds me of a bloke who use to coach the Jets

[380]

Reminds me of a bloke who use to coach the Jets



At least under that bloke we won the stat for the most amount of completed passes between our keepers and fullbacks. No other stat mattered at the time.

[MFKS]

Apparently we are paying $2.10 for the win

WTF is going on there ???

[MFKS]

So this BBQ we hosting this arvo

Has it been called off or delayed yet??

[Jetmaster]

Members in Eastern Stand can move upstairs in the Western, two drinks breaks a half - so still on.

Gonna look empty on TV.....knowing lots of people bailing out. Can't blame the club though.

[Frodo]

I love that the club put Wessi's name on the provisional team list, knowing full well he wasn't fit to play, just to trick idiots into showing up thinking he'd get a run.

Never change Jerks, never change.

[Hunter403]

Playing in this heat is criminal. F##k Fox and their schedule: move it to 9pm tonight.

[belchardo]

so i agree with Bozza that it is ridiculous to kick off in this heat and at this time. But bloody hell, a guy paid by fox bitching about kick off times is ridiculous.

[Frodo]

so i agree with Bozza that it is ridiculous to kick off in this heat and at this time. But bloody hell, a guy paid by fox bitching about kick off times is ridiculous.

That's his whole schtick. He just complains about anything and everything and tries to act like the every man.

[MFKS]

That one of Burns great crosses??

[StannyCFCJET]

That one of Burns great crosses??

The one Arroyo wasted? Yep

[Jetmaster]

A-League record away attendance of one (that I can see).

[Grimario]

What even is VAR?

[Jetmaster]

What even is VAR?

VAR chant.....active support is dead to me.

2 x injuries, 2 x drinks and 2 x VAR....

4 minutes....Markus was right.

[The Dunster]

Only thing worse than Hoffs shooting is his passing.

He has to be carrying an injury.

[Hunter403]

How many have we butchered today?

[belchardo]

How many have we butchered today?

no doubt we've got a few more in us.

jesus, how did dimi even do that?

[The Dunster]

How many have we butchered today?

A lot.

[belchardo]

What even is VAR?

sydney's second chance

[The Dunster]

The salary cap needs to go. We are paying porsche prices for holden camira performance.

[The Dunster]

20 shots vs 2 shots and we will find a way to lose this.

[The Hacker]

Do they get they have to put the ball between the sticks

[Jetmaster]

Both sides are intercoursed.

Call it off.

[The Dunster]

Stephen Hawking could kick better corners than Dimi Petratos

[Grimario]

Just give Topor our player of the season and pull the plug now.

What a shambles.

[belchardo]

not sure who gave the worst performance of the night - the entire jets frontline or the person counting the additional minutes.

god, how did we not win that.

[Frodo]

Laugh out loud.

Yes, that was worthy of using the full words. I'm watching that game end just laughing at us.

We deserve to win the spoon this season, we are by far and away the worst side in the comp.

I really hope we win next week 6-0 and still get the spoon.

[Frodo]

Also, not to pick one person out for this game alone. But that was a perfect proof of how Dimi has stagnated here. He needs to move on and reinvigorate himself otherwise he'll end up retiring here with more spoons than goals.

Good player, horrendously out of form tho.

[Aegon]

Also, not to pick one person out for this game alone. But that was a perfect proof of how Dimi has stagnated here. He needs to move on and reinvigorate himself otherwise he'll end up retiring here with more spoons than goals.

Good player, horrendously out of form tho.

If nothing else he needs to stop taking corners and free kicks.

[380]

Stephen Hawking could kick better corners than Dimi Petratos

Yep and this typifies this f*&^%ed up clubs mentality. Bloke hasn't delivered a decent ball from a corner in 24 months yet gets to carry on in the role. Until this club gets a broom put the through the bloody joint this shit will continue where blokes like Dimi and Hoff can get picked week after week delivering sweet bugger all.

Dimi would go close to being one of the leagues most overpaid not withstanding the leverage he must have having the entire clan on the Jerks payroll.

[Hunter403]

Dimi needs to make forward runs with less lateral movement. He needs to make runs in behind.

[MFKS]

Good final pre season hit out

Now onto what matters most

Beating the Gypos

[380]

I love that the club put Wessi's name on the provisional team list, knowing full well he wasn't fit to play, just to trick idiots into showing up thinking he'd get a run.

Never change Jerks, never change.

Yep, There were a few people in and around where i sit who were of the same opinion, They were pretty pissed in actual fact and i think the club and those running the circus underestimate just how annoyed people get by that blatant bullshit. This club at present in not that far removed from the life and times of the season we had under Stubbins. We are quite the f^&*ing joke of the league at present.

We are smidgen more credible than Wilson and his numpty pack of officials having to much of a influence on results through there protected incompetence and Wilson's uncanny knack of dodging accountability season after season.

As for todays game this mob could not score in a crack house offering up unlimited free samples.

[furns]

game should have been delayed - there was no way there was going to be any sort of quality playing on those conditions.
Agree on the consensus re Hoff and Dimi. Johnny K rode the pine for some time and credits it with giving him the boot up the arse that was needed, not to mention playing in a position he is comfortable with.
Once Wessi is ready to go, I think Dimi needs a few weeks off to get his head right.
Im guessing that Hoff will get benched once Roy is available for selection, so that will sort him out in the same way hopefully.

[Jetmaster]

Wes would have been left out because of the heat. No problem with that at all....would have been blatant stupidity to risk him coming back in those conditions. He was only going to play 15-20 mins anyway. Carry him over for next week.

Whinge for whinge sake.

[Frodo]

Wes would have been left out because of the heat. No problem with that at all....would have been blatant stupidity to risk him coming back in those conditions. He was only going to play 15-20 mins anyway. Carry him over for next week.

Whinge for whinge sake.

He was never going to play, no matter the heat. Bloke hasn't run for how long again? It's just bullshit from the Gypos running the place to get idiots through the doors.

[380]

Wes would have been left out because of the heat. No problem with that at all....would have been blatant stupidity to risk him coming back in those conditions. He was only going to play 15-20 mins anyway. Carry him over for next week.

Whinge for whinge sake.

No the BOM has had todays forecast being on the upside of 40 long before the club started pissing in peoples pockets about including Wes in the squad. So no not whinge for whinge sake. Not everybody lives within an hour of the stadium and have the luxury of waiting for the match squad to be listed an hour in advance eh.

[Jetmaster]

No the BOM has had todays forecast being on the upside of 40 long before the club started pissing in peoples pockets about including Wes in the squad. So no not whinge for whinge sake. Not everybody lives within an hour of the stadium and have the luxury of waiting for the match squad to be listed an hour in advance eh.

It isn't unusual for players to withdraw late for whatever reason. Wes was deemed not fit by the medical team....end of. Not for anyone else to decide really.

[Frodo]

It isn't unusual for players to withdraw late for whatever reason. Wes was deemed not fit by the medical team....end of. Not for anyone else to decide really.

Woooshhhh!

[380]

It isn't unusual for players to withdraw late for whatever reason. Wes was deemed not fit by the medical team....end of. Not for anyone else to decide really.

And just when do you think he was deemed as not fit ?. After Fridays session ?, This morning ?.

[mic22]

The Wes thing was pretty low from the club.
Dimi needs to be benched: I'm sorry to say it, but in his current form he reminds me of Hoole.
Kanta and JohnnyK were better, I like the way the team play now (no long balls... NO LONG BALLS!!!).
Thurgate should be in the starting 11, somewhere (probably where Dimi is).
Hoff out. Top bloke, but enough.

[mic22]

Oh and on the positive side... Boogs savagely hacking Berisha is always such a pleasure to watch!
A yellow card well spent :)

[The Hacker]

No the BOM has had todays forecast being on the upside of 40 long before the club started pissing in peoples pockets about including Wes in the squad. So no not whinge for whinge sake. Not everybody lives within an hour of the stadium and have the luxury of waiting for the match squad to be listed an hour in advance eh.

You can’t tell me people actually turned up only to watch Wessi play 15-20 min and are now pi$$ed with the club cause he didn’t. He was never EVER going to start so if it was such a big deal and the only reason they went to the game they should of turned up after half time when he might of got on

[Couscous]

Just watched.

A lot of misery on here, but I can't get over how bad WUN are.

[380]

Like others have said, It was pretty low from the club.

Me i could not care less as i clearly stated however this couple i would estimate in there early 50's from up near Denman did travel with the anticipation they were a better than average chance of seeing him take some part in the game. Given there " mother country " accent i can only take it they may have been fans of the bloke and as explained by them it was a good 1hr drive in extreme weather and then the long walk in the heat from where they parked there vehicle only to then find he was not even in the match day squad.

The club made a lot of it all week did it not ?. But as has been clearly suggested here that was never really going too happen eh !!!!!!!!. So any confusion or " big deal " as you put it is well and truly on the club for making such a " big deal " of it all week.

[belchardo]

Just watched the replay again in quick time. here are the notable delays for the first half.

First half
Drinks break 1 16:30 - 2 minutes delay
Uskok injury 23:53 - 90s delay
Dillon yellow 28:47 - 40s delay
Drinks break 2 30:17 - 2 minute delay
Boogards (brilliant) hit on besart 33:45 - 75s delay
VAR intervention 38:03 - 30s delay (still can't work out how that wasn't a penalty)
Besart dies in the middle of the pitch and the VAR looks for the man on the grassy knoll 43:42 - 2:30 delay
Hoffman head injury 48:54 - 90s delay
Half time - 50:38

Almost 12 minutes of clear delays in the game due to official intervention and we get less than half of it back.

shits me off no end how much time we get robbed in every match.

[mic22]

Just watched the replay again in quick time. here are the notable delays for the first half.

First half
Drinks break 1 16:30 - 2 minutes delay
Uskok injury 23:53 - 90s delay
Dillon yellow 28:47 - 40s delay
Drinks break 2 30:17 - 2 minute delay
Boogards (brilliant) hit on besart 33:45 - 75s delay
VAR intervention 38:03 - 30s delay (still can't work out how that wasn't a penalty)
Besart dies in the middle of the pitch and the VAR looks for the man on the grassy knoll 43:42 - 2:30 delay
Hoffman head injury 48:54 - 90s delay
Half time - 50:38

Almost 12 minutes of clear delays in the game due to official intervention and we get less than half of it back.

shits me off no end how much time we get robbed in every match.

Put it like this: at the end of a pretty ordinary performance on his side, the referee decided to save it by sparing the crowd another 10 minutes of agonizing inability to score goals from the Jets.
And for this, I'm grateful.

[Grimario]

Nah, that's BS. If we had those extra 8 minutes, we could have made 40 shots without scoring. I want us to set the bar high.

[MFKS]

Just watched the replay again in quick time. here are the notable delays for the first half.

First half
Drinks break 1 16:30 - 2 minutes delay
Uskok injury 23:53 - 90s delay
Dillon yellow 28:47 - 40s delay
Drinks break 2 30:17 - 2 minute delay
Boogards (brilliant) hit on besart 33:45 - 75s delay
VAR intervention 38:03 - 30s delay (still can't work out how that wasn't a penalty)
Besart dies in the middle of the pitch and the VAR looks for the man on the grassy knoll 43:42 - 2:30 delay
Hoffman head injury 48:54 - 90s delay
Half time - 50:38

Almost 12 minutes of clear delays in the game due to official intervention and we get less than half of it back.

shits me off no end how much time we get robbed in every match.

You do realise being as shit as we are this shitful time keeping is on the flipside keeping the score respectable??

[Aegon]

There are a lot of sad bitter humans on this forum.
I reckon most of you would still be complaining if we won the bloody championship.

The team busted their arse for 90 mins in 40 degree temps, had the upper hand for the whole game but we failed to capitalise against a team that parked the bus.

This forum is just a sad indictment of what the internet culture has enabled.

Aussies give the POM’s grief for whinging but I reckon we could give them lessons these days.

[380]

There are a lot of sad bitter humans on this forum.
I reckon most of you would still be complaining if we won the bloody championship.

The team busted their arse for 90 mins in 40 degree temps, had the upper hand for the whole game but we failed to capitalise against a team that parked the bus.

This forum is just a sad indictment of what the internet culture has enabled.

Aussies give the POM’s grief for whinging but I reckon we could give them lessons these days.

Is that inc the ACL or not because honestly if you are talking just the domestic championship the yeh that would be pretty piss poor of the club to have only done half a job.

[The Dunster]

There are a lot of sad bitter humans on this forum.
I reckon most of you would still be complaining if we won the bloody championship.

The team busted their arse for 90 mins in 40 degree temps, had the upper hand for the whole game but we failed to capitalise against a team that parked the bus.

This forum is just a sad indictment of what the internet culture has enabled.

Aussies give the POM’s grief for whinging but I reckon we could give them lessons these days.

Those same people have been buying memberships and supporting the club since day one.
Most of them are pissed off because they don't feel the club is doing enough for them - I tend to agree.
We also have a few players underperforming that simply need a rest and a chance to recharge their batteries like Dimi and the Hoff. But because our squad is so thin on A-League standard players they can't get a rest.
Meanwhile, the club continues to sign fringe state league standard players and can't understand why we are bottom of the table.
Then you have the fiasco that is the coaching position - Deans looks to have sorted a few things out and we are about to replace him with someone that's at very long odds to be as good let alone better than Deans or Ernie at taking the club forward.
Yes there are people that have a whinge - but enough is enough with this club who have been taking their fans for granted for far too long.

[Bon]

There are a lot of sad bitter humans on this forum.
I reckon most of you would still be complaining if we won the bloody championship.

The team busted their arse for 90 mins in 40 degree temps, had the upper hand for the whole game but we failed to capitalise against a team that parked the bus.

This forum is just a sad indictment of what the internet culture has enabled.

Aussies give the POM’s grief for whinging but I reckon we could give them lessons these days.


Those same people have been buying memberships and supporting the club since day one.
Most of them are pissed off because they don't feel the club is doing enough for them - I tend to agree.
We also have a few players underperforming that simply need a rest and a chance to recharge their batteries like Dimi and the Hoff. But because our squad is so thin on A-League standard players they can't get a rest.
Meanwhile, the club continues to sign fringe state league standard players and can't understand why we are bottom of the table.
Then you have the fiasco that is the coaching position - Deans looks to have sorted a few things out and we are about to replace him with someone that's at very long odds to be as good let alone better than Deans or Ernie at taking the club forward.
Yes there are people that have a whinge - but enough is enough with this club who have been taking their fans for granted for far too long.

I can see where both of you are coming from..
While I walked away from the ground on the weekend (sweating my c-cups off), I couldn't help but take the Aegon positives from the match..
It was hot-as-fvck, we were all over them, just couldn't put it in the net. The not scoring bit is no surprise, didn't expect anything out of the ordinary for how we have been going - but that is probably a part of what Dunster said, its been like this for so long..
I would be proper concerned if i was a Western United supporter, they were absolutely honking..

[MFKS]

There are a lot of sad bitter humans on this forum.
I reckon most of you would still be complaining if we won the bloody championship.

The team busted their arse for 90 mins in 40 degree temps, had the upper hand for the whole game but we failed to capitalise against a team that parked the bus.

This forum is just a sad indictment of what the internet culture has enabled.

Aussies give the POM’s grief for whinging but I reckon we could give them lessons these days.

The game is about what you do in your opponents box and what you do in your own box

The rest of the shit in the middle of the park is irrelevant

I don't give a **** if we dominated possession or had the better of play

I judge things by the score board and league table

Now we coming last

Ain't won in 65 days

We ain't beat the Gypos in over 12 months

We got the worst attack

We got the worst defence

We got a Gypo running us into the ground

We don't have a Manager

We got some ladies coach in charge of our team who ain't won a game at the helm


I don't know what KPIs you think we are making but the current results are well below mine

The club ain't getting anywhere near the criticism they deserve