19/20 HAL Round 18 | Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners | Sun 09/02/20 1600

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2019/20 Match day 18 Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 48 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 48 occasions in the A-League and on 0 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 16, Mariners Wins - 15, Drawn - 17


In Newcastle – 23 matches.
Jets Wins - 9, Mariners Wins - 5, Drawn - 9
In Gosford - 24 matches
Jets Wins - 6, Mariners Wins - 10, Drawn - 8

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12037
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10499

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 58, Mariners - 58
In Newcastle -
Jets – 26, Mariners - 21

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 23, Mariners - 22

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 114 (110 yellow, 4 red), Mariners 71 (65 yellow, 6 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 1 (D Petratos 56' pen) - Central Coast Mariners 1 (Duric 4') at Central Coast Stadium, A-League, Round 2, Season 2019/20

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2019/20 Match day 2

Newcastle JetsCentral Coast Mariners
Glen MossMark Birighitti
Matthew MillarZiggy Gordon
Nigel BoogaardJack Clisby
Nikolai Topor-StanleyDylan Fox
John KoutroumbisKye Rowles
Steven UgarkovicGianni Stensness
Matthew RidentonTom Oar
Dimitri PetratosGiancarlo Gallifuoco
Jason HoffmanMilan Duric
Nick FitzgeraldDaniel De Silva
Abdiel ArroyoJordan Murray



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 8 (Champness 10', O'Donovan 20', McGree, 24', McGree 53', Jackson 61', O'Donovan 68' pen, McGree 75', D Petratos 81') - Mariners 2 (Pain 39', Buhagiar 80') at Central Coast Stadium, A-League, Round 27, Season 2017/18

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 1 - (Coveny 85') - Mariners 4 (Gumprecht 4', Brown 34', Hutchinson 72', 83'), Round 16, Season 2005/06 at Express Advocate Stadium, 31/12/2005.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths, Roy O'Donovan (6)
Mariners - Matt Simon (8)



2019/20 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss12120110570000
2Bobby Burns106435530010
3Jason Hoffman15150612621020
4Nigel Boogaard55004500030
5Ben Kantarovski14113510080020
6Steven Ugarkovic15150113282110
9Abdiel Arroyo99067072100
10Dimitri Petratos15150013503420
11Nick Fitzgerald139477560010
14Kaine Sheppard60601070000
16Matthew Millar15150113322210
18John Koutroumbis149539180000
19Kosta Petratos2020250000
20Lewis Italiano43102930000
22Lachlan Jackson1111028800020
23Matthew Ridenton95424680010
28Patrick Langlois63303080020
31Maki Petratos101080000
32Angus Thurgate157846902110
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley15150013501020



COACHING


Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Ernie Merrick - 7 matches (5 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat = 71% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 defeat = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 1 draw, 0 defeats = 67% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 defeat = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 2 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (6 wins, 6 drawn and 5 defeats = 35% win ratio)
Craig Deans - 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 defeat = 100% win ratio)
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 3 defeats = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 2 defeat = 33% win ratio)

Central Coast Mariners Coach Record – Alen Stajic 50% win ratio (1 win, 1 draw, 0 losses)

[MFKS]

Those stats are wrong

I don't ever ever recall us losing to these cunce

Stop the lies

[The Dunster]

Once we get Roy, Arroyo, and Wessi on the pitch who do people think will ride the pine ? And how will we set up the team ?

[StannyCFCJET]

Once we get Roy, Arroyo, and Wessi on the pitch who do people think will ride the pine ? And how will we set up the team ?

4-2-3-1 Wes at number 10. Arroyo and Dimi out wide and Roy at number 9

[380]

Once we get Roy, Arroyo, and Wessi on the pitch who do people think will ride the pine ? And how will we set up the team ?

As with most topics of discussion on here i completely concur with Stanny the man.


Hoff on the bench or back to the fullback spot and Johny K on the bench. Bonus to all this is Fitzuseless finds himself out of match day squad altogether and asks his manager to find him his 67th club in the HAL and we can provide that spot to some potential prospect from a NPL with much much more ability.

Sorry Jetkel but you know its true.

[StannyCFCJET]

As with most topics of discussion on here i completely concur with Stanny the man.


Hoff on the bench or back to the fullback spot and Johny K on the bench. Bonus to all this is Fitzuseless finds himself out of match day squad altogether and asks his manager to find him his 67th club in the HAL and we can provide that spot to some potential prospect from a NPL with much much more ability.

Sorry Jetkel but you know its true.

Fitzy started the season strong but has been rubbish lately.

[Mark325]

As with most topics of discussion on here i completely concur with Stanny the man.


Hoff on the bench or back to the fullback spot and Johny K on the bench. Bonus to all this is Fitzuseless finds himself out of match day squad altogether and asks his manager to find him his 67th club in the HAL and we can provide that spot to some potential prospect from a NPL with much much more ability.

Sorry Jetkel but you know its true.

I actually think Kanta should go to the bench, and be replaced by either Johnny, Thurgarte should then be our sub for the midfield and have Langlois on the bench for CB

[380]

Fitzy started the season strong but has been rubbish lately.

Story of his career and should be released from the final year of his contract at seasons end.

[StannyCFCJET]

I actually think Kanta should go to the bench, and be replaced by either Johnny, Thurgarte should then be our sub for the midfield and have Langlois on the bench for CB

Gus with Stevie I can get onboard with

[MFKS]

What has Thurgate got to do to get a start??

Judging by the shit Kanta n Hoff dish up it defies belief he not being selected ahead of them

[Frodo]

What has Thurgate got to do to get a start??

Judging by the shit Kanta n Hoff dish up it defies belief he not being selected ahead of them

Find a position and stick with it. He's not an 8, he's not a 10, he's not a 9.... He needs to pick one, work on it and lock it in before next season if he wants to be a guaranteed starter.

I agree that he should be starting, but I don't know where and I don't know of he can stick to a gameplan for 90 mins. He's a Ramsay style floater that goes where he wants and doesn't necessarily stick to a gameplan.

[furns]

What has Thurgate got to do to get a start??

Judging by the shit Kanta n Hoff dish up it defies belief he not being selected ahead of them
He seems to be better coming off the bench rather than starting imo

[mic22]

Find a position and stick with it. He's not an 8, he's not a 10, he's not a 9.... He needs to pick one, work on it and lock it in before next season if he wants to be a guaranteed starter.

I agree that he should be starting, but I don't know where and I don't know of he can stick to a gameplan for 90 mins. He's a Ramsay style floater that goes where he wants and doesn't necessarily stick to a gameplan.

Since when do players pick their position?
That's up to the coach.
He played as a 9 in an emergency situation, which shows versatility.
I think he followed different gameplans very well, can't blame it on the player if he gets moved to different positions.

[Frodo]

Since when do players pick their position?
That's up to the coach.
He played as a 9 in an emergency situation, which shows versatility.
I think he followed different gameplans very well, can't blame it on the player if he gets moved to different positions.

The conversation is regarding him being a starter. You really need to have a position if you want to be a starter.

It's great being a utility, but that means you are going to be starting on the bench most weeks.

[Frodo]

I think we should go to a 4-4-2 and play a diamond midfield. Kanta at CDM, Ridenton and Uga as B2B mids and Thurgate at the tip of the diamond with freedom to attack from either side or from deep.

Roy takes care of CBs and creates space for Arroyo to work with. Plenty of legs in midfield to cover across the park defensively and to counter as well.

[mic22]

The conversation is regarding him being a starter. You really need to have a position if you want to be a starter.

It's great being a utility, but that means you are going to be starting on the bench most weeks.

Exactly. And that's up to the coach...

[Frodo]

Exactly. And that's up to the coach...
I think you missed the point of this conversation.

Yes, it's the coaches decision on who plays in what position each week. But it's up to the player to train and improve skills in order to show what their preferred position is. A decent coach will play players in their preferred position because that's how you get the most out of them. This isn't Under 7s when you get handed a shirt with a certain number on it and that's where you play today.

If Thurgate wants to play as an 8, he needs to improve his skills to play that position. If wants to be a 9 he needs to work on different things. So far his aim has just been to get minutes on the pitch, but now he needs to kick on and become a starter.

[mic22]

Well, he can only work on his skills in the context of the team he's playing with, and under the guidance of the technical staff available. There are many examples of players used in the wrong position by a coach, who then realised their true potential under a different coach.
It's not U7... but i you still get to play where the coach says...
I'd like to see him used in the position you suggested above. If that means Dimi out for a couple of games, so be it...

[MFKS]

The conversation is regarding him being a starter. You really need to have a position if you want to be a starter.

It's great being a utility, but that means you are going to be starting on the bench most weeks.

Slow down he has a position

It is down to the coaches that he has been played here there and every where

Got nothing to do with him at all

Same as Johnny K he just been played massively out of position for too long

Now he playing in a position closer to his best position we will see better from him

Being this season is lost we be better off playing Thurgate in CM where he belongs and going from there
Get the games under his belt

[Frodo]

Slow down he has a position

It is down to the coaches that he has been played here there and every where

Got nothing to do with him at all

Same as Johnny K he just been played massively out of position for too long

Now he playing in a position closer to his best position we will see better from him

Being this season is lost we be better off playing Thurgate in CM where he belongs and going from there
Get the games under his belt

If we think his best position is at 8, then i'm not sure he should be starting. He doesn't read the entire game well (can see players in front of him, but doesn't know where opposition midfields are around him, yet.) and has little to no ability defensively. Compare him to Uga who is a true No 8, they aren't similar IMO.

But as an 8/10 hybrid he isn't relied upon defensively and doesn't have to worry about as many oppositions players.

Or maybe he better as an inside forward like Hazard/Mertens/Griezmann. He has lots of the attributes needed to play that role.

I don't know because he seems to be all over the place whenever he comes on, no matter the coach.


I do agree that he needs a coach to pick him in the right spot before we can truly judge him there. But we don't have one of those, so he needs to make the decision for any coach that we have. Pick a spot, and make yourself undroppable.

[Jetmaster]

Now.....just realised...

1/ Gonna piss down rain this weekend.
2/ Rugby game at MJS on Saturday night in the rain.

Just putting it out there.

[Jetkel]

As with most topics of discussion on here i completely concur with Stanny the man.


Hoff on the bench or back to the fullback spot and Johny K on the bench. Bonus to all this is Fitzuseless finds himself out of match day squad altogether and asks his manager to find him his 67th club in the HAL and we can provide that spot to some potential prospect from a NPL with much much more ability.

Sorry Jetkel but you know its true.

Meh, I just want us to win tbh. I just think the bloke cops an unfair hammering because people are so obsessed with his CV rather than what he does on the field. If he had missed the opportunities Hoff or Dimi or Arroyo have missed over the last 3 weeks or put in the same questionable effort at times to push past the line or trackback, you would of already lynched him.

FWIW I'd have him in the 11. & Captain.

I appreciate the apology though xoxo

[380]

Of course , Blood is thicker than water i get it Gem, But it is exactly what he does on the pitch as to why people don't rate him A League standard and past coaches soon have him on the bench or watching from the stands on game day in his club suit. Maybe he should take up the piss to provide himself a reason for so many clubs like Rocket Jnr has, Far better than just being plain hopeless at this level.

On another note just how close Wes was last week has all played out this week. With not even a hint of any injury setback talk since last Friday he was never a chance last week much to the BS this club trots out.

[Hunter403]

The stars have aligned....The return of The Puddle!!

[Thomas477]

The stars have aligned....The return of The Puddle!!

10/10

[Grimario]

Pitch is looking nicely torn up when they get in close on the rugby broadcast.

[furns]

Pitch inspection at 1030am sunday morning to assess whether game will go ahead

[Grimario]

Pitch assessment will most be water related, not where rugby has torn it to shreds though.

[380]

I am in Lake Macquarie where it is not 40 plus deg and really has been Sweet F&*% all rain here today, Has much fallen in town ?.

If anything like here and pretty much stays the same one might say ideal conditions for Football.

[Jeterpool]

I'm 10 minute drive max from the stadium. We've had some very heavy periods of rain this arvo and evening

[The Hacker]

The ground looks shocking surely we won’t play.

[Grimario]

I think we can just unofficially call it off now. So much rain in the last hour and a bit and even more forecast for the next 12 or so. N

[boz-monaut]

we're about 3 kilometres from the stadium and have had 46 millimetres since midnight, 101 millimetres since this started on Thursday

can't see this going ahead

[Grimario]

We were all wrong. Game is going ahead.

[Retro Jet]

We were all wrong. Game is going ahead.

You've got to be sh!tting me. Ffs....
Better get 3 points out of it then.
'Puddle' will be on our side again at least.

[Hunter403]

Crowd will be dismal

[The Hacker]

Alright if this sh#% show is actually going ahead. How will we line up

[StannyCFCJET]

Alright if this sh#% show is actually going ahead. How will we line up

Check Jets twitter or Facebook

[Tommyjet]

Hoffman not up front, thats all you need to know

[belchardo]

How much longer is kanta signed for? I think it's time everybody accepts he's made of glass.

[StannyCFCJET]

This is very easy. Mariners are completely poo

[belchardo]

Topor and dimi. Wow!

[belchardo]

That's more like the jets we know and hate.

[StannyCFCJET]

Italiano has to do better at corners

[The Dunster]

We give the ball away too easily to be a chance at making the finals.

Our corners are horrible. Dimi needs to give someone else a go.

[StannyCFCJET]

Ugar and Gus should be the midfield combo going forward

[belchardo]

Italiano has to do better at corners

i though millar was to blame for that. think he was supposed to be marking him.

although i think he did have a bit of a flap at one earlier.

[The Hacker]

Johnny K has a chance to kick the ball out for a throw. Instead he thinks he can control the ball in the wet gives away a corner and they score

[belchardo]

Ugar and Gus should be the midfield combo going forward

it does look pretty good so far.

[belchardo]

Oh for $#÷@& sake

[The Dunster]

Sack the lot of them. None of them should be employed come Monday.

[The Dunster]

Oh ffs it's a defensive masterclass.

[The Dunster]

We are playing shit but have 4 goals

[belchardo]

this is what the jets do to me every single week


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blO3EtP_D10

[belchardo]

That one i am blaming on italiano. Kick the shit out of it!

[The Dunster]

Only the Jets could find and sign a less talented keeper than Moss.

[MFKS]

Dean's In

[StannyCFCJET]

Only the Jets could find and sign a less talented keeper than Moss.

Moss has been brilliant up until this season

[MFKS]

Moss has been brilliant up until this season

Moss has been ****ing garbage since he came in

Italiano is an even bigger hack

I thought Birraz was poor on crosses but Lew8s actually tops him

We need to either promote Noah James now and get on with it or by a new keeper

[baldrick]

It’s just lucky the Mariners are crapper (but only just) than us

[StannyCFCJET]

Moss has been ****ing garbage since he came in

Italiano is an even bigger hack

I thought Birraz was poor on crosses but Lew8s actually tops him

We need to either promote Noah James now and get on with it or by a new keeper

Moss was good in 17/18 and good last year

[turbojetfireV8]

how long till Moss is back?

[mic22]

There's a reason if we have the worst defense.
Just look at the 3rd goal: ok, Italiano makes a mistake, but there's plenty of time to fix it - our defenders either watch or run away from the ball instead, giving an easy shot from just outside the box.

I still didn't like the way Dimi handled the ball for most of the match, but it's hard to criticize him with 2 goals scored and 1 assist from a corner.
CCM defended terribly, and still Arroyo couldn't score :(
I liked Thurgate + Uga.

[The Dunster]

NTS could have gone to Harold to block the shot but instead he dropped back to form a line with the rest of the defense. Why he would do that when there was nobody Running off Harold for him to pass it to is a complete mystery.

[turbojetfireV8]

worst part of this game/result is, had we not conceded that last goal we would have been equal goal difference with them, now we're still minus two more than them - job only half done really...

[Jeterpool]

Chris Harold scoring against the Jets is like the sun rising, death and taxes. Nailed on certainty.

[MFKS]

Moss was good in 17/18 and good last year

In 17/18 Moss was our back up

Jack Duncan was our no1

Bloke was signed as a no2 and should never have been handed the no1 spot without us signing some serious competition for the role

[MFKS]

Chris Harold scoring against the Jets is like the sun rising, death and taxes. Nailed on certainty.

I forgot that ****s existed until he came on yesterday

Why the **** didn't we sign him ??


Save us 5 goals a year conceeded doing so

[380]

I forgot that ****s existed until he came on yesterday

Why the **** didn't we sign him ??


Save us 5 goals a year conceeded doing so

Just what we need Chris Harold and Fitzuseless in the same team. That would be enough to drive you insane and the ultimate demonstration of just how much a club could hate its supporters.

[Jeterpool]

Just what we need Chris Harold and Fitzuseless in the same team. That would be enough to drive you insane and the ultimate demonstration of just how much a club could hate its supporters.

Harold looked motivated and driven to prove a point yesterday. I'd have Harold over Fitzgerald any day.

[Alton]

Bobby, Gus and Ugar best 3 on park

[Frodo]

I forgot that ****s existed until he came on yesterday

Why the **** didn't we sign him ??


Save us 5 goals a year conceeded doing so

I'm quite sure he'd just end up scoring own goals. That bloke just can't stop scoring against us. It's ridiculous.

[Retro Jet]

Chris Harold scoring against the Jets is like the sun rising, death and taxes. Nailed on certainty.

It would be remiss of me to not comment on that useless squaddie scoring against us yet again, considering the amount of sh!t
I've heaped on him over the years...and us. Fml....letting that A-League dross chalk another one up.
The Jerks. Only us...

[The Hacker]

Bobby, Gus and Ugar best 3 on park

Bobby outstanding again the kids bloody good

[MFKS]

Other thing that shpuldnt be missed pointing out

As soon as Kanta and Hoff were cleared off the park we look significantly better

I also do like the Roy Arroyo partnership

It actually great idea to have 2 strikers on the park instead of 1 for a change

[380]

Bobby outstanding again the kids bloody good

Very good in fact. His biggest critic notably quite

[StannyCFCJET]

Very good in fact. His biggest critic notably quite

Ernie?

[Frodo]

Bobby outstanding again the kids bloody good

Was a part of a defensive unit that conceded 3 goals to the Gypos, outstanding is a bit of an exaggeration.

Also let's not act like we would have beaten any other team with that performance, that Mariners side was absolutely honking and we still made ourselves work hard for the 3 points. All 5 defenders better be running laps mid week and have their ears bleeding after that effort.

[The Dunster]

Was a part of a defensive unit that conceded 3 goals to the Gypos, outstanding is a bit of an exaggeration.

Also let's not act like we would have beaten any other team with that performance, that Mariners side was absolutely honking and we still made ourselves work hard for the 3 points. All 5 defenders better be running laps mid week and have their ears bleeding after that effort.

Millar lost his man for the first two goals. NTS could have prevented the Harold goal.

[380]

Ernie?

Nah Burns biggest critic also Ridenton biggest fan on here

[Couscous]

This was a terrible game.

[StannyCFCJET]

Nah Burns biggest critic also Ridenton biggest fan on here

Still Ernie

[380]

" On here "