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Jeterpool
11-02-2020, 11:41 AM
A-League 2019/20 Match day 19 Western Sydney Wanderers v Newcastle Jets

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 22 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 22 occasions in the A-League and on 0 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 8, Wanderers Wins - 8, Drawn - 6


In Newcastle – 11 matches.
Jets Wins - 3, Wanderers Wins - 5, Drawn - 3
In Sydney - 11 matches
Jets Wins - 5, Wanderers Wins - 3, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 12887
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10628

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 33, Wanderers - 30
In Sydney -
Jets – 19, Wanderers - 14

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 8, Wanderers - 14

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 40 (38 yellow, 2 red), Wanderers 32 (32 yellow, 0 red)


Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Thurgate 78', D Petratos 86') - Western Sydney Wanderers 0 at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 8, Season 2019/20

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2019/20 Match day 8

Newcastle JetsWestern Sydney Wanderers
Glen MossDaniel Lopar
Matthew MillarDaniel Georgievski
Lachlan JacksonDylan McGowan
Nikolai Topor-StanleyMatthew Jurman
John KoutroumbisDaniel Wilmering
Steven UgarkovicKeanu Baccus
Ben KantarovskiPirmin Schwegler
Dimitri PetratosNicolai Muller
Jason HoffmanMitchell Duke
Nick FitzgeraldBruce Kamau
Abdiel ArroyoKwame Yeboah



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 5 (D Petratos 18', Hoffman 22', O'Donovan 45+2', Ridenton 49', O'Donovan 59' pen) – Wanderers 1 (Duke 69'), Round 17, Season 2018/19 at McDonald Jones Stadium, 1/2/2019.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Wanderers 3 (Bridge 6’, 33’, Visconte 80’), Round 27, Season 2012/13 at Hunter Stadium, 29/03/2013 & Jets 0 - Wanderers 3 (Corthwaite 40', Sotirio 42', Corthwaite 50'), Round 25, Season 2016/17 at Hunter Stadium, 1/4/2017.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Dimitri Petratos (4)
Wanderers - Mark Bridge (6)



2019/20 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Glen Moss12120110570000
2Bobby Burns117436430010
3Jason Hoffman16151612631020
4Nigel Boogaard66005400030
5Ben Kantarovski15123610130020
6Steven Ugarkovic16160114182110
9Abdiel Arroyo1010077962300
10Dimitri Petratos16160014405520
11Nick Fitzgerald139477560010
14Kaine Sheppard60601070000
16Matthew Millar16160114222210
18John Koutroumbis15105310080000
19Kosta Petratos3030340000
20Lewis Italiano54103830000
22Lachlan Jackson1111028800020
23Matthew Ridenton95424680010
28Patrick Langlois63303080020
31Maki Petratos101080000
32Angus Thurgate167947752120
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley16160014402020



COACHING


Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Carl Robinson - 0 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = N/A% win ratio)
Ernie Merrick - 7 matches (5 wins, 2 drawn, 0 defeats = 100% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 win, 0 drawn, 3 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 2 drawn, 0 defeats = 33% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 0 defeats = 50% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 4 matches (1 win, 0 drawn and 3 defeats = 25% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No matches
Branko Culina - No matches
Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
Richard Money - No matches

Roundball Enthusiast
12-02-2020, 10:23 AM
We'll do em by 2 and end up winning the league.

Frodo
13-02-2020, 03:52 PM
Just saw the squad list. Can't believe that Wessi, who we know was fit enough to play a few weeks ago, still can't get a game?

McKinna can go eat an unlimited supply of doodles and then get out of our club.

StannyCFCJET
13-02-2020, 04:01 PM
Just saw the squad list. Can't believe that Wessi, who we know was fit enough to play a few weeks ago, still can't get a game?

McKinna can go eat an unlimited supply of doodles and then get out of our club.

So you'd rather another CEO who tells the fans nothing? Also a CEO has no control over the fitness of a player. That's all the coaching and medical staff

Bon
13-02-2020, 04:03 PM
So you'd rather another CEO who tells the fans nothing? Also a CEO has no control over the fitness of a player. That's all the coaching and medical staff

I found it more interesting that he wasn't listed at all.. Not even in the In's, Out's, Injured, etc..

I don't know if its about the CEO telling the fans nothing.. I think its more to do with a heap of info coming out about him weeks ago, and subsequently nothing since..
Or have I got this all wrong?

StannyCFCJET
13-02-2020, 04:29 PM
I found it more interesting that he wasn't listed at all.. Not even in the In's, Out's, Injured, etc..

I don't know if its about the CEO telling the fans nothing.. I think its more to do with a heap of info coming out about him weeks ago, and subsequently nothing since..
Or have I got this all wrong?

Your correct but it's not on Lawrie also if he isn't injured and wasn't in the squad the week before he wouldn't be a part of the squad announcement as they never list the non chosen fit players

Jeterpool
13-02-2020, 04:29 PM
One way to tell - go to training and see what he's doing. It's not like it's locked down.

Is he with the main group? Is he by himself? Is he back in rehab?

Otherwise we're just speculating.

Frodo
13-02-2020, 04:38 PM
Your correct but it's not on Lawrie also if he isn't injured and wasn't in the squad the week before he wouldn't be a part of the squad announcement as they never list the non chosen fit players

Lawrie was the one who used his "return" to trick people to come to the game a few weeks ago, knowing full well that he was 0% chance of actually playing.

He's a snake oil salesmen and should be run out of time just like they did in the old days. The day he leaves I'll celebrate more than winning any title.

Frodo
13-02-2020, 04:40 PM
One way to tell - go to training and see what he's doing. It's not like it's locked down.

Is he with the main group? Is he by himself? Is he back in rehab?

Otherwise we're just speculating.

Just to be clear. I'm not worried about him not being in the squad for actual football reasons, he's not fit. We need to give him as long as he needs to get fit and get strength back in his leg. I'm just pissed at McKinna for playing tricks as usual.

380
13-02-2020, 04:41 PM
So you'd rather another CEO who tells the fans nothing? Also a CEO has no control over the fitness of a player. That's all the coaching and medical staff

What crap. Three weeks ago he was one of these three things

In the squad to play
In the squad to be on bench with potential for game time
In the squad for the sake of a mental lift to the rest of the squad


No word has been provided since then that he has suffered anything to suggest he has gone BACKWARDS from that and any of those three listed above, Happy to be corrected but i cannot recall any info from club to suggest he has suffered a setback from his condition leading up to the W.U match.

Rubbish was suggested on here of his omission on the day of the W.U match because the intense heat predicted on gameday and fair enough but what about since then ?.

Frodo and Bon make valid points in regards to Wes, From the info provided to the supporters leading up to the W.U match to where we are now the club has made a dogs breakfast of this. One moment he is on the verge of selection with only hot weather offered up for his absence ( has been mild since ) to not even a mention like Bon say in the Ins , Out or otherwise.

So would i rather a CEO who tells fans nothing , Of course not. I will however take a CEO who ensure information from the club is not BS or misleading. A CEO or one who runs a tight ship can be responsible for that.

My gut feeling is we will not see Wes at all.

The Dunster
13-02-2020, 05:54 PM
My gut feeling is we will not see Wes at all.

It wouldn't surprise me if you are right.

Frodo
13-02-2020, 07:44 PM
My gut feeling is we will not see Wes at all.

I was of this view a few weeks ago, but seeing him up and moving so quickly has me thinking we might get a few 20-30 min performances before the end of the season. But agreed, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a set back and we didn't see him play at all. Would suck hard if that ended up being the case.

The Hacker
14-02-2020, 09:00 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if you are right.

I bet he’s here next year

380
14-02-2020, 12:07 PM
I bet he’s here next year

Was thinking same myself, If he is sound and still capable,Under the cap moderate wages and a full pre season under his belt to assist acclimatizing then why not.

The Hacker
14-02-2020, 02:20 PM
Was thinking same myself, If he is sound and still capable,Under the cap moderate wages and a full pre season under his belt to assist acclimatizing then why not.

Speaking to someone that is in the know he feels like he owes us even though injuries happen he’s the kind of bloke that apparently feels bad. Which if it is the case keep him I say

Jeterpool
14-02-2020, 02:29 PM
Vargas 2.0

mic22
14-02-2020, 04:32 PM
Vargas 2.0

Just with a lot more potential...

StannyCFCJET
14-02-2020, 05:00 PM
Vargas 2.0

Hopefully 10x the input Vargas had season 2

380
14-02-2020, 06:06 PM
Hopefully 10x the input Vargas had season 2

And with all that input at the attacking end of the park not the way Vargas would do his best work in the back third eh.

StannyCFCJET
14-02-2020, 06:47 PM
And with all that input at the attacking end of the park not the way Vargas would do his best work in the back third eh.

Agreed which is the same thing Robinson has said to Dimi thank god

Retro Jet
15-02-2020, 12:40 AM
One way to tell - go to training and see what he's doing. It's not like it's locked down.

Is he with the main group? Is he by himself? Is he back in rehab?

Otherwise we're just speculating.

As I posted in the Carl/Brexit thread, I watched training (with Todd...and the dog. Hoff Snr chatted with us too) on Thursday morning.
Wessie was in full training mode with the rest of the squad. Didn't look like he was pulling out of tackles...which is what I look for if a player
has had a bad injury. So FIIK why he isn't even in the In's and Outs. I'm with Bon - was puzzled as to why he wasn't listed.
Typo or accidentally omitted?

MFKS
15-02-2020, 01:11 AM
Why in ****sname have we got to name a match day squad during the week anyway??

The reality is the club will be playing 11 guys plus a pile of other guys as Subs from our List of players registered either in the HAL side or the Yoof team

Now you do the maths from that realise it is a waste of time as you can more or less pick your top 16 to 18 at most clubs anyway


The side is named to the world 1 hour before kick off
That should be the only time the Jets are announcing anything to the world about lineups

Does Guerrilla or Klopp name a squad for an EPL game 3 days out to the press
**** know

So why the **** did we do it ??

sorefootballer
15-02-2020, 03:31 PM
Why in ****sname have we got to name a match day squad during the week anyway??

The reality is the club will be playing 11 guys plus a pile of other guys as Subs from our List of players registered either in the HAL side or the Yoof team

Now you do the maths from that realise it is a waste of time as you can more or less pick your top 16 to 18 at most clubs anyway


The side is named to the world 1 hour before kick off
That should be the only time the Jets are announcing anything to the world about lineups

Does Guerrilla or Klopp name a squad for an EPL game 3 days out to the press
**** know

So why the **** did we do it ??

Because we are the Jets. We don't do normal

sorefootballer
15-02-2020, 03:33 PM
and like to f**k with the fans

Couscous
15-02-2020, 06:36 PM
We can still make the finals.

baldrick
15-02-2020, 07:20 PM
Why in ****sname have we got to name a match day squad during the week anyway??

The reality is the club will be playing 11 guys plus a pile of other guys as Subs from our List of players registered either in the HAL side or the Yoof team

Now you do the maths from that realise it is a waste of time as you can more or less pick your top 16 to 18 at most clubs anyway


The side is named to the world 1 hour before kick off
That should be the only time the Jets are announcing anything to the world about lineups

Does Guerrilla or Klopp name a squad for an EPL game 3 days out to the press
**** know

So why the **** did we do it ??

ALL the clubs do it.

MFKS
15-02-2020, 08:32 PM
ALL the clubs do it.

That be down to some clueless FFA initiative

Retro Jet
15-02-2020, 08:40 PM
Wots with this delay? Is/was there lightning accompanying that storm?

Edit: I just checked Twatter. Due to freak weather, ko delayed to 7:51pm

MFKS
15-02-2020, 08:58 PM
Carl is off to.a flyer

Burns

****ing hopeless

Frodo
15-02-2020, 08:58 PM
Lol, Burns getting taken to the cleaner's by Bruce freaking Kamau. Jot that one down on his CV.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 08:59 PM
Burns ****ed up. Bruce Kumau cant hit a barn door no need to foul him in the area.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:01 PM
Did Carl let them have a sleep before kick off? These guys look so flat it's not funny.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:02 PM
Strap yourself in for something resembling the Stubbins era.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:02 PM
Great save Italiano

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:05 PM
Millar has nfi how to defend.
Burns is too slow.
Katroumbis forced to play out of position.

Welcome to the abortion.

Grimario
15-02-2020, 09:05 PM
This is awful so far.

Bremsstrahlung
15-02-2020, 09:06 PM
Giving the ball away far too easy.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:07 PM
I don't have words to describe how bad we look.

MFKS
15-02-2020, 09:09 PM
It safe to say that Robinson has somehow in a week managed to make us worse than we were

Like that some next level shit that he can get us playing worse than Bert or Dean's could

MFKS
15-02-2020, 09:09 PM
I don't have words to describe how bad we look.

Classic Jets will do

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:11 PM
Can't wait to see the Carl Out thread. FMD. What's the opposite of a new manager bounce?

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:13 PM
No chance Burns lasts 90 mins.

Thankfully.

baldrick
15-02-2020, 09:13 PM
It’s like they overtrained during the week to impress the new boss

Retro Jet
15-02-2020, 09:13 PM
Burns will be off b4 HT at this rate...

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:16 PM
Carl seems to have us playing scared and without confidence.

Players don't seem to be on the same page.

Retro Jet
15-02-2020, 09:16 PM
And you can always count on Evans to fk us over one way or another.
Can we shift this fker into doing Colgate ads instead?

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:18 PM
Stubbins > Robinson

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:21 PM
Johnny K starting to look more comfortable in a back 3 instead of a back 4. Shows he has definite flaws, but also shows that there is a decent player in there somewhere.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:23 PM
Ref is killing us on the foul count

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:24 PM
Millar finally did something useful there.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:24 PM
Ref is killing us on the foul count

Our players need to stop giving away easy fouls first.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 09:33 PM
Millar is a joke. Constantly out of position. Can't pass, can't tackle, can't be bothered tracking back.

Shows how poorly we recruited.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:34 PM
Well, I've found one positive. At least we aren't coached by Marigny the absolute cock wallet, haha. They went 1-0 up, missed 3 chances and now he's got them sitting deep soaking up pressure, pun intended.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 09:36 PM
Also, Thurgate proving my points about him not being a CM. He looks absolutely lost out there.

380
15-02-2020, 09:42 PM
Group look like they are not interested, Taken less than a week for Carl to lose the dressing room.

Retro Jet
15-02-2020, 09:45 PM
Mitch Puke...fmd. How hard would you larf if the dickhead coastie tore a hammy off the bone with that stupid celebration.
Love to be a fly on the wall in our changeroom now.

MFKS
15-02-2020, 09:45 PM
Our players need to stop giving away easy fouls first.

Also don't help that the ref gives us advantage and doesn't blow his whistle on a couple of occasions WSW have blatantly fouled us

That the foul count at HT is 9-0 Or 10-0 says plenty about his inability to referee the game fairly and evenly

Frodo
15-02-2020, 10:06 PM
That Ziegler prick needs a solid shoulder to the chin to shut him up a little. Whinges so much it's like he's a Sydney FC player or something.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:08 PM
Burns is walking. Need to hook him before we concede.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 10:09 PM
Who ever said that Millar was a defensive player needs to watch more football. Put him on the wing, not at wingback and never rely on him to defend 1v1. Poor bloke has no idea what he's doing and is obviously too nice to tell anyone.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:11 PM
Wanderers doing a lot of holding and shirt tugging with the referees blessing.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:18 PM
Wellington v City game was three levels above this crap.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:20 PM
Fitzgerald on. His manager must have had a word to Carl.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:24 PM
And that means he gets a start next week.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:25 PM
1-1 has us top of the table.

Park the bus Carl ffs.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 10:25 PM
The worry now is that we only have 1 midfielder on the field. Don't know if that was the best move from Carl there.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 10:28 PM
Hate to say it, but Arroyo off and Ridenton on maybe? We need to plug some holes centrally and we have plenty of attackers to score a winner if the opportunity arises.

Frodo
15-02-2020, 10:30 PM
Is that our first free kick of the second half?

Frodo
15-02-2020, 10:41 PM
Fitzgerald gets fouled in a superb free kick opportunity and Dimi instead just hoofs it well above goal. Just stand still and take the better option you boofhead.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:44 PM
Great result. We are top of the table now.

Retro Jet
15-02-2020, 10:45 PM
Shit tackle but the smiling assassin enjoyed that card...as he does with each and every card he dishes out.

The Dunster
15-02-2020, 10:47 PM
Lewis Italiano was very good tonight.

MFKS
15-02-2020, 10:50 PM
Fitzgerald gets fouled in a superb free kick opportunity and Dimi instead just hoofs it well above goal. Just stand still and take the better option you boofhead.

But that was down to the ref with his subtle cheating
He plays advantage instead of giving us the free kick which was always gonna be the better prize there

The top teams get the free kick
The smaller teams get screwed by the refs

Jetkel
15-02-2020, 10:53 PM
Lewis Italiano was very good tonight.

He was excellent - minus a couple questionable distribution decisions.

380
15-02-2020, 10:55 PM
FMD i cannot believe i am about to post this, So print it out and frame it Jetkel so Fitzy can see see it every time he comes home after training.

We actually played some much better football and with a greater sense of urgency when Fitzuseless came on.

MFKS
15-02-2020, 11:02 PM
He was excellent - minus a couple questionable distribution decisions.

He didn't do a thing as the guys in front of him for the most part kept him unoccupied

To be perfectly fair the Wanderers were ****ing honking in attack and will be lucky to beat home the Gypos this season

Jetkel
15-02-2020, 11:20 PM
He didn't do a thing as the guys in front of him for the most part kept him unoccupied

To be perfectly fair the Wanderers were ****ing honking in attack and will be lucky to beat home the Gypos this season

Made a sensational 1 v 1 stop on cox late in the first half & a few good low saves early 2nd half. Was a tough night for keepers, Lopars the best in the business & he struggled.

Jetkel
15-02-2020, 11:26 PM
FMD i cannot believe i am about to post this, So print it out and frame it Jetkel so Fitzy can see see it every time he comes home after training.

We actually played some much better football and with a greater sense of urgency when Fitzuseless came on.

Fitz is god confirmed.

Hunter403
15-02-2020, 11:38 PM
FMD i cannot believe i am about to post this, So print it out and frame it Jetkel so Fitzy can see see it every time he comes home after training.

We actually played some much better football and with a greater sense of urgency when Fitzuseless came on.

Men in white coats ordered and your rubber lined room is waiting. Must be some sh1t you're smoking. 😂😂

380
15-02-2020, 11:44 PM
I know i know. I am pretty brown on myself at the moment for having posted that but he just wasn't his usual useless overrated 37th club in the league self. Maybe with another 10 seasons and 12 clubs he just maybe just maybe might put a good half of football together.

mic22
15-02-2020, 11:54 PM
Seriously... seems like everyone here was hoping to see dramatic changes after 4 training sessions... WTF
Robinson has exactly the same players that Ernie and Deans had, if anyone expected Real Madrid... you're delusional.
If he did 5 changes and turned squad and formation upside down, many people here would be calling him all sort of names (and rightfully so).
He started with the same setup, clearly he's doing a different type of work as some competences are not clear.

BREAKING NEWS: Top 6 is gone (it's been a while actually), so better start working on some serious changes - and guess what, it takes time.
Whingeing is always easier though...
I'll judge Robbo next December, not after 4 days. Smh

p.s.: we could have won the game if some players could shoot...

MFKS
15-02-2020, 11:58 PM
Made a sensational 1 v 1 stop on cox late in the first half & a few good low saves early 2nd half. Was a tough night for keepers, Lopars the best in the business & he struggled.

The bloke had a 5 yard first touch which Italiano managed to dive in with his feet to get the ball

Any competent keeper would have used his ****ing hands and claimed the ball

MFKS
16-02-2020, 12:01 AM
Seriously... seems like everyone here was hoping to see dramatic changes after 4 training sessions... WTF
Robinson has exactly the same players that Ernie and Deans had, if anyone expected Real Madrid... you're delusional.
If he did 5 changes and turned squad and formation upside down, many people here would be calling him all sort of names (and rightfully so).
He started with the same setup, clearly he's doing a different type of work as some competences are not clear.

BREAKING NEWS: Top 6 is gone (it's been a while actually), so better start working on some serious changes - and guess what, it takes time.
Whingeing is always easier though...
I'll judge Robbo next December, not after 4 days. Smh

p.s.: we could have won the game if some players could shoot...

I will go better than you on this

Deans done a much better job with these same shit players than Robinson has

That is a fact

Couscous
16-02-2020, 12:48 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Top 6 is gone (it's been a while actually)

Fake news. We're easily able to reach the finals.

Our problem is we bought a Robinson. We had options.

The Dunster
16-02-2020, 09:51 AM
Fitzgerald came on and pressed hard in defense and released the ball quickly in attack. Simple but effectivly showing his strengths and hiding the weaknesses.

Ernie and others probably gave him too much freedom in the past.

Jetkel
16-02-2020, 02:04 PM
The bloke had a 5 yard first touch which Italiano managed to dive in with his feet to get the ball

Any competent keeper would have used his ****ing hands and claimed the ball

Came off his line quickly, Cox tried to round him. Was good decision making & a good save on a slippery night. Fark me, shittin on a bloke for the sake of shittin on the bloke.

Retro Jet
16-02-2020, 02:05 PM
Fake news. We're easily able to reach the finals.

Our problem is we bought a Robinson. We had options.

Do you have a problem with people with the surname Robinson?

anfield
16-02-2020, 02:20 PM
Seriously... seems like everyone here was hoping to see dramatic changes after 4 training sessions... WTF
Robinson has exactly the same players that Ernie and Deans had, if anyone expected Real Madrid... you're delusional.
If he did 5 changes and turned squad and formation upside down, many people here would be calling him all sort of names (and rightfully so).
He started with the same setup, clearly he's doing a different type of work as some competences are not clear.

BREAKING NEWS: Top 6 is gone (it's been a while actually), so better start working on some serious changes - and guess what, it takes time.
Whingeing is always easier though...
I'll judge Robbo next December, not after 4 days. Smh

p.s.: we could have won the game if some players could shoot...

Good post, nothing like some common sense. The Jets need some stability, remember this is a squad Robinson has inherited.

MFKS
16-02-2020, 03:26 PM
Came off his line quickly, Cox tried to round him. Was good decision making & a good save on a slippery night. Fark me, shittin on a bloke for the sake of shittin on the bloke.

Good save ??

The bloke Cox had a first touch of a therapist

It was 5 yards in front of him

I would back every HAL keeper to save it

I would back every HAL keeper bar ours to claim it with his hands

Don't make out that was outstanding work from Italiano. That 1st touch of Cox was that bad it put the odds in Jets favour straight away

MFKS
16-02-2020, 03:28 PM
Good post, nothing like some common sense. The Jets need some stability, remember this is a squad Robinson has inherited.

We have had 3 years of stability

This is more or less the same as Ernies 1st squad when he arrived

We have had 3 years of stability . It change We need

380
16-02-2020, 04:09 PM
I have not seen anything from Italiano at this point in time that screams out " first choice keeper " for next season

Frodo
16-02-2020, 05:24 PM
I have not seen anything from Italiano at this point in time that screams out " first choice keeper " for next season

Other than Moss's retirement.

MFKS
16-02-2020, 06:08 PM
Other than Moss's retirement.

But I would take BK over Italiano

It not even a contest really

We can do so much better than Italiano

outsider
16-02-2020, 06:36 PM
Seriously... seems like everyone here was hoping to see dramatic changes after 4 training sessions... WTF
Robinson has exactly the same players that Ernie and Deans had, if anyone expected Real Madrid... you're delusional.
If he did 5 changes and turned squad and formation upside down, many people here would be calling him all sort of names (and rightfully so).
He started with the same setup, clearly he's doing a different type of work as some competences are not clear.

BREAKING NEWS: Top 6 is gone (it's been a while actually), so better start working on some serious changes - and guess what, it takes time.
Whingeing is always easier though...
I'll judge Robbo next December, not after 4 days. Smh

p.s.: we could have won the game if some players could shoot...

we could be top of the comp if ANY of the players could shoot

Frodo
16-02-2020, 07:58 PM
But I would take BK over Italiano

It not even a contest really

We can do so much better than Italiano

Do you think we have the ability to find anyone better other than maybe Noah when he's back? I have zero faith in us to sign anyone who isn't 35 and playing NPL or riding the pine at another club.

Retro Jet
16-02-2020, 11:57 PM
Do you think we have the ability to find anyone better other than maybe Noah when he's back? I have zero faith in us to sign anyone who isn't 35 and playing NPL or riding the pine at another club.

Hmmm..I wonder what it would take to get Jamie Young here.
Bloke seems to have a blinder every time we play Brisbane Hollandier. Might be 9pts we'd get if he was on our side for a change.
Oh bugger. We'd have to have goal scorers.
Foiled again!

Frodo
17-02-2020, 08:40 AM
Hmmm..I wonder what it would take to get Jamie Young here.
Bloke seems to have a blinder every time we play Brisbane Hollandier. Might be 9pts we'd get if he was on our side for a change.
Oh bugger. We'd have to have goal scorers.
Foiled again!

Jamie is born in Brisbane, seems to get along great with Fowler, is in a team that is spending money to improve and will likely make the finals this season.

We'd need to pay him a million season to come to this joke of a club right now. We can't attract any starting keeper in the HAL unless their current club drops them and drives them out, and even then we'd still need to over pay.

We will have to go for backups at best.

Frodo
17-02-2020, 08:51 AM
Bouzanis. (Not likely to leave and would cost too much)
Velaphi. (He'd be available but might have better options than us.)
Janjetovic. (Please no.)
Nizic. (Stats say he has 1 start and conceded 3 goals. Never seen him play.)
Olivar Sail from Wellington (Could be a good option. But we'd need to pry him from them with decent wages.)
Matt Acton. (Can see this one happening as Victory have depth without him and he would take any starting gig.)


That's about it really.

Jetkel
17-02-2020, 10:40 AM
Acton's a good shout. Good keeper. Is/was he injured though? Nizic is static, very ordinary. Janjetovic off to the new team I think.

Just not sure how anyone can watch Saturdays game & be critical of Italiano - very solid game in difficult conditions. Other rounds not so much, but I'm purely talking about Saturday. Lopar arguably the best keeper in the competition was made to look very ordinary partly due to the conditions.

Bon
17-02-2020, 10:44 AM
Just not sure how anyone can watch Saturdays game & be critical of Italiano - very solid game in difficult conditions. Other rounds not so much, but I'm purely talking about Saturday. Lopar arguably the best keeper in the competition was made to look very ordinary partly due to the conditions.

Yeah, I agree with you..
While he has been a bit dodge in other games, on the weekend I thought he did really well.. (Apart from his attempt to recreate last weekend's blunder)

Tommyjet
17-02-2020, 12:29 PM
I just don't think Italiano has the consistency we need from a first choice keeper. Yes he was good last start but against the scum he was ordinary and it's been a trend throughout his career

380
17-02-2020, 12:42 PM
I just don't think Italiano has the consistency we need from a first choice keeper. Yes he was good last start but against the scum he was ordinary and it's been a trend throughout his career

Spot on TJ.

belchardo
17-02-2020, 01:33 PM
I like italiano and think he'll improve. At the moment his decision making regarding distribution is poor.

Jardelsimage
17-02-2020, 02:10 PM
I like italiano and think he'll improve. At the moment his decision making regarding distribution is poor.

"poor" there are words that better describe his decisions...….

Frodo
17-02-2020, 08:36 PM
How does Millar make it into the team of the week after that game? How bad has the HAL really gotten when a single goal makes you the best RB in the league this week?

mic22
17-02-2020, 09:33 PM
Good save ??

The bloke Cox had a first touch of a therapist

It was 5 yards in front of him

I would back every HAL keeper to save it

I would back every HAL keeper bar ours to claim it with his hands

Don't make out that was outstanding work from Italiano. That 1st touch of Cox was that bad it put the odds in Jets favour straight away

Well, I'm sure Italiano - just like everyone else - wasn't expecting a blunder of such epic proportion from Topor.
He went out and fixed it pretty damn well.

MFKS
17-02-2020, 10:49 PM
Well, I'm sure Italiano - just like everyone else - wasn't expecting a blunder of such epic proportion from Topor.
He went out and fixed it pretty damn well.

This is the Jets

If you ain't expecting blunders from them then your not paying attention