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The Hacker
21-12-2021, 12:42 PM
All accords he has been training hard and wants to have 1 last crack before getting into coaching. So the club have given him a chance and see how pre season goes. I think he has had a bit of bad luck the last few yrs and wants to just get some enjoyment back. He can play tho so if he gets fit could be a good pick up
Your not wrong he was a cracking player but as you get older it’s harder to miss several years of playing at that level to then try and get it back. I hope he does cause him 10 years ago would cruise. But I did say 10 years ago. Westy have some decent young kids they should be trying to bring through and if he’s in around training with them then that’s handy but don’t take a spot of a kid who has 10+ years left at the club
Football lover
21-12-2021, 01:22 PM
Your not wrong he was a cracking player but as you get older it’s harder to miss several years of playing at that level to then try and get it back. I hope he does cause him 10 years ago would cruise. But I did say 10 years ago. Westy have some decent young kids they should be trying to bring through and if he’s in around training with them then that’s handy but don’t take a spot of a kid who has 10+ years left at the club
Yeh that’s a fair point. Just something I’ve heard. I think coaching is the way to go for him anyway to be honest. Who knows. See what happens in the off season and what happens. I know he plays golf now and works shift work. I think losing his parents has derailed him quite a bit the poor bugga so maybe it could be good for him.
But the point about Westy having good kids coming through is 100% true.
Captain_Carl
22-12-2021, 08:46 AM
Hello I am after some recommendations. Can anyone tell me which NL1 club has the best canteen and are there any particular menu items you recommend I try? Thanks
Yesk21
23-12-2021, 10:07 AM
Hello I am after some recommendations. Can anyone tell me which NL1 club has the best canteen and are there any particular menu items you recommend I try? Thanks
I’d say Westys is usually pretty good, other than that they’re all pretty standard
jim wallis
23-12-2021, 11:22 AM
Hello I am after some recommendations. Can anyone tell me which NL1 club has the best canteen and are there any particular menu items you recommend I try? Thanks
Perth Fc have the best. You should go there. :thumbsup:
magician
24-12-2021, 04:58 PM
Perth Fc have the best. You should go there. :thumbsup:
I’ll shout the one way ticket
Captain_Carl
22-03-2022, 06:09 AM
I would like to take you up on this offer as I am thrilled about the appointment of Ruben Zadkovich at Perth Glory and keen to go watch the impact he has on the team.
Alton
29-03-2022, 01:54 PM
I would like to take you up on this offer as I am thrilled about the appointment of Ruben Zadkovich at Perth Glory and keen to go watch the impact he has on the team.
About as much as he had at Magic
GO AWAY
01-04-2022, 08:55 AM
New Lambton 4-1
Thornton 2-1
Belswans 1-0
Toronto 3-1
Kahibah 2-0
If we play at all
Alton
01-04-2022, 01:57 PM
New Lambton 4-1
Thornton 2-1
Belswans 1-0
Toronto 3-1
Kahibah 2-0
If we play at all
If we play? where have you been? on the other side of the world.
BBscone
04-04-2022, 11:34 PM
If we play? where have you been? on the other side of the world.Close, Wallsend washed out against NL but I just saw them humbled 4-1 by...... Mayfield in Aust Cup at LMRFF. After Mayfield were pumped by NL a couple of weeks ago in a trial, so form lines are out the window? Wallsend fail to field all teams and exit Round 1 of the Cup competition to a team below them. Nothing to see here Northern. The most famous club in the district. Carry on.
ForeverRed
05-04-2022, 07:48 AM
Close, Wallsend washed out against NL but I just saw them humbled 4-1 by...... Mayfield in Aust Cup at LMRFF. After Mayfield were pumped by NL a couple of weeks ago in a trial, so form lines are out the window? Wallsend fail to field all teams and exit Round 1 of the Cup competition to a team below them. Nothing to see here Northern. The most famous club in the district. Carry on.
I’m not sure how this is NNSWF problem, carry on
BBscone
05-04-2022, 08:04 AM
I’m not sure how this is NNSWF problem, carry onFamous old club obviously struggling, unable to fill team quota and obviously fielding a first grade team that will be off the pace in their own comp. No Youth teams therefore no light to work towards. The only way out is cash to invest their way to success which is what we all see ends poorly. Northern sit back and watch. Governance. Ignored in local football and volunteers are left to stumble their way to oblivion.
The Hacker
05-04-2022, 09:02 AM
Famous old club obviously struggling, unable to fill team quota and obviously fielding a first grade team that will be off the pace in their own comp. No Youth teams therefore no light to work towards. The only way out is cash to invest their way to success which is what we all see ends poorly. Northern sit back and watch. Governance. Ignored in local football and volunteers are left to stumble their way to oblivion.
Maybe they saw the draw and didn’t play their full squad Im not sure. How’s their trial form been
BBscone
07-04-2022, 12:09 AM
Maybe they saw the draw and didn’t play their full squad Im not sure. How’s their trial form beenMaybe......and maybe Singleton (Warners Bay) and Toronto (Dudley) did the same. Westy.v.Swansea? There is a distinct gap here that needs to be addressed. I stand by the lack of management and lack of care at Northern that has created this clear divide. Put NL up now, they tick all the boxes and the works are commencing on their ground. Offer Belswans and Southy 2024. Decouple Youth now. Establish a new Second tier. No Youth unless you want it, 1st 23s and 18s mandated. If you win a Club Championship (Youth and Senior) and you have a Youth program you can go up. Lose NPL and if a second tier Club ticks the boxes down you go. Dudley Mayfield Westlakes Swansea etc..all get a chance to set up a development program, Wallsend Toronto and Singleton get what they want and jettison kids, Kahibah and Westy get a chance to build towards something. If Westy are smart they grow off the back of their demographic. Einstein suggested that to keep doing the same thing and expecting something different is the definition of insanity ( not quoted....)
United
07-04-2022, 06:47 AM
Maybe......and maybe Singleton (Warners Bay) and Toronto (Dudley) did the same. Westy.v.Swansea? There is a distinct gap here that needs to be addressed. I stand by the lack of management and lack of care at Northern that has created this clear divide. Put NL up now, they tick all the boxes and the works are commencing on their ground. Offer Belswans and Southy 2024. Decouple Youth now. Establish a new Second tier. No Youth unless you want it, 1st 23s and 18s mandated. If you win a Club Championship (Youth and Senior) and you have a Youth program you can go up. Lose NPL and if a second tier Club ticks the boxes down you go. Dudley Mayfield Westlakes Swansea etc..all get a chance to set up a development program, Wallsend Toronto and Singleton get what they want and jettison kids, Kahibah and Westy get a chance to build towards something. If Westy are smart they grow off the back of their demographic. Einstein suggested that to keep doing the same thing and expecting something different is the definition of insanity ( not quoted....)
Good in theory but I know some XPl clubs don’t want to start up development programs. ZPL is like the old first and second divisions, three grades and that’s it. There is way too much time and money involved that not all clubs are capable of achieving. If the federation was smart they’d scrap the junior program and just have three grades. But the money keeps rolling in so they will keep making the same mistakes over and over as it benefits the wallet.
Hunter403
07-04-2022, 07:14 AM
Maybe......and maybe Singleton (Warners Bay) and Toronto (Dudley) did the same. Westy.v.Swansea? There is a distinct gap here that needs to be addressed. I stand by the lack of management and lack of care at Northern that has created this clear divide. Put NL up now, they tick all the boxes and the works are commencing on their ground. Offer Belswans and Southy 2024. Decouple Youth now. Establish a new Second tier. No Youth unless you want it, 1st 23s and 18s mandated. If you win a Club Championship (Youth and Senior) and you have a Youth program you can go up. Lose NPL and if a second tier Club ticks the boxes down you go. Dudley Mayfield Westlakes Swansea etc..all get a chance to set up a development program, Wallsend Toronto and Singleton get what they want and jettison kids, Kahibah and Westy get a chance to build towards something. If Westy are smart they grow off the back of their demographic. Einstein suggested that to keep doing the same thing and expecting something different is the definition of insanity ( not quoted....)
Put NL up now??? Their ground is just unsuitable. Only promote them when their ground is done or they enter into an agreement to play elsewhere. I've always been against using facilities as a reason for non promotion, but in this case, Alder Park really is a good reason to not promote.
Offer Belswans and Southy a spot in 2024?? I'd think that Westy and Kahibah are every bit as deserving as Southy. Kahibah has a well developed youth programme, is a large club and arguably more successful on the park these days than Southy. Westy is right in the middle of the Newcastle growth area. Kids everywhere. They will only get stronger. Westy have facilities (although dated) and an enclosed ground. Kahibah will have the soon to be redeveloped Harold Knight/Fred Wright and Mick Middleton complex (in Council's action plan for 21/22).
You are right on the decoupling of youth, but the answer is not to make the NPL we have bigger, it is to have two NPL levels with less teams in each. The general feeling (call it a vote if you like) in this forum is 8 and 8.
W8 WATCHER
07-04-2022, 08:26 AM
Put NL up now??? Their ground is just unsuitable. Only promote when their ground is done or they enter into an agreement to play elsewhere. I've always been against using facilities as a reason for non promotion, but in this case, Alder Park really is a good reason to not promote.
Offer Belswans and Southy a spot in 2024?? I'd think that Westy and Kahibah are every bit as deserving as Southy. Kahibah has a well developed youth programme, is a large club and arguably more successful on the park these days than Southy. Westy is right in the middle of the Newcastle growth area. Kids everywhere. They will only get stronger. Westy have facilities (although dated) and an enclosed ground. Kahibah will have the soon to be redeveloped Harold Knight/Fred Wright and Mick Middleton complex (in Council's action plan for 21/22).
You are right on the decoupling of youth, but the answer is not to make the NPL we have bigger, it is to have two NPL levels with less teams in each. The general feeling (call it a vote if you like) in this forum is 8 and 8.
Absolutely put kahibah up??? WTF
These teams have no ambition, so because they have a fence they should be promoted.
f me, probably the dumbest post to date, just like npl needs more Terrible teams like Lakes, buds and valo to be included.
Hunter unfortunately it's people like your opinion and creativity is why football is in he state it is in Newcastle.
Lastly, why isnt wallsend fc not included in the promotion list you have put forward, we have multiple fences more then any team in npl, also a running track for warm ups, license bar and betting facilities.
Jog on
The Hacker
07-04-2022, 09:00 AM
Maybe......and maybe Singleton (Warners Bay) and Toronto (Dudley) did the same. Westy.v.Swansea? There is a distinct gap here that needs to be addressed. I stand by the lack of management and lack of care at Northern that has created this clear divide. Put NL up now, they tick all the boxes and the works are commencing on their ground. Offer Belswans and Southy 2024. Decouple Youth now. Establish a new Second tier. No Youth unless you want it, 1st 23s and 18s mandated. If you win a Club Championship (Youth and Senior) and you have a Youth program you can go up. Lose NPL and if a second tier Club ticks the boxes down you go. Dudley Mayfield Westlakes Swansea etc..all get a chance to set up a development program, Wallsend Toronto and Singleton get what they want and jettison kids, Kahibah and Westy get a chance to build towards something. If Westy are smart they grow off the back of their demographic. Einstein suggested that to keep doing the same thing and expecting something different is the definition of insanity ( not quoted....)
Toronto had all their new big signings playing and were filthy at losing. They were full strength
Bremsstrahlung
07-04-2022, 09:03 AM
The biggest thing for me is that clubs with ambition and success need to be rewarded appropriately.
Allow any club, the opportunity to prove themselves, improve, develop and progress through the divisions.
Publish transparent criteria for ground, facility, squad expectations. Let clubs know what they need to do.
If you get the results, meet the criteria you can be promoted.
If you don’t have results, you can be relegated.
Clubs have had enough protection over the last decade. If they haven’t got their act together, hold them accountable.
The idea was a good one, let clubs focus on developing players and facilities instead of using their $$$ to pay players. But the reality is that it hasn’t done much to improve the competition.
There’s no point saying, well we have more U/20s playing first grade than before, if the quality is much poorer.
If clubs are playing to win, if you’re good enough you are old enough. If a 35 year old offers more to the team than a 20yo, so be it.
Hunter403
07-04-2022, 09:50 AM
Absolutely put kahibah up??? WTF
These teams have no ambition, so because they have a fence they should be promoted.
f me, probably the dumbest post to date, just like npl needs more Terrible teams like Lakes, buds and valo to be included.
Hunter unfortunately it's people like your opinion and creativity is why football is in he state it is in Newcastle.
Lastly, why isnt wallsend fc not included in the promotion list you have put forward, we have multiple fences more then any team in npl, also a running track for warm ups, license bar and betting facilities.
Jog on
I'm really concerned about your ability to comprehend English.
Firstly, I was responding to BBScone so was addressing his post. He excluded Wallsend, Toronto and Singleton as he argues they are unable to field youth teams. He is wrong in the case of Wallsend.
He raised Kahibah and Westy. That's what I was addressing. If you have an issue with him leaving out Wallsend, take it up with him. I responded regarding the teams he discussed. Can you understand that or should I use smaller words?
But to address your only points that are not out of context. Southy, Westy and Kahibah submitted NPL applications so your comment about them not having ambition is clearly wrong. Did I say they should go into NPL? No, I simply said that Kahibah and Westy were as deserving as Southy.
Why wasn't Wallsend in my list? I had no list, I was responding to BBScone but if I did have a list I would include Wallsend as they have managed to fill all teams this year. Do try to not put words in peoples mouths.
I can't address this:
"Hunter unfortunately it's people like your opinion and creativity is why football is in he state it is in Newcastle."
as it makes no sense.
So to be clear on MY opinion, free of addressing BBScone's post
1 De couple youth
2 NPL1 and NPL 2 each of 8 teams. No teams selected for either at this time
3 Facilities criteria to be given far less weight
4 Promotion and relegation
You can feel free to shoot those four points down. You can also feel free to share your opinion, if you have one.
Will you say "Sorry Hunter, I didn't read your post in the context of the post it was responding to and consequently I was wrong"? Of course you won't. If my post was the dumbest to date, you just surpassed it.
As you say, jog on.
FMD it is so frustrating having to explain simple things to people who speak/write first without thought.
W8 WATCHER
07-04-2022, 11:26 AM
I'm really concerned about your ability to comprehend English.
Firstly, I was responding to BBScone so was addressing his post. He excluded Wallsend, Toronto and Singleton as he argues they are unable to field youth teams. He is wrong in the case of Wallsend.
He raised Kahibah and Westy. That's what I was addressing. If you have an issue with him leaving out Wallsend, take it up with him. I responded regarding the teams he discussed. Can you understand that or should I use smaller words?
But to address your only points that are not out of context. Southy, Westy and Kahibah submitted NPL applications so your comment about them not having ambition is clearly wrong. Did I say they should go into NPL? No, I simply said that Kahibah and Westy were as deserving as Southy.
Why wasn't Wallsend in my list? I had no list, I was responding to BBScone but if I did have a list I would include Wallsend as they have managed to fill all teams this year. Do try to not put words in peoples mouths.
I can't address this:
"Hunter unfortunately it's people like your opinion and creativity is why football is in he state it is in Newcastle."
as it makes no sense.
So to be clear on MY opinion, free of addressing BBScone's post
1 De couple youth
2 NPL1 and NPL 2 each of 8 teams. No teams selected for either at this time
3 Facilities criteria to be given far less weight
4 Promotion and relegation
You can feel free to shoot those four points down. You can also feel free to share your opinion, if you have one.
Will you say "Sorry Hunter, I didn't read your post in the context of the post it was responding to and consequently I was wrong"? Of course you won't. If my post was the dumbest to date, you just surpassed it.
As you say, jog on.
FMD it is so frustrating having to explain simple things to people who speak/write first without thought.
FMD your correct, it is frustrating explaining plain and simple english.
so submitting these teams applications' is progressive?
can you demonstrate what they have achieved in last 3-5 years to be worthy of your statement.
only 2 teams are worthy i believe Belswans and NL. that's it
lastly, it's all about improving quality football, opportunity for ambitious clubs and players, youth development and removing politics, or fence sitting from the sport, unfortunately this is a pipe dream and wont happen, NPL needs to have 12-14 teams, more games more opportunities. Ground improvements will eventually come there after, and also more fences.
The rest of the teams can play ZPL or merge, as its meant to be better then NL1 anyway.
Hunter403
07-04-2022, 12:04 PM
FMD your correct, it is frustrating explaining plain and simple english.
so submitting these teams applications' is progressive?
can you demonstrate what they have achieved in last 3-5 years to be worthy of your statement.
only 2 teams are worthy i believe Belswans and NL. that's it
lastly, it's all about improving quality football, opportunity for ambitious clubs and players, youth development and removing politics, or fence sitting from the sport, unfortunately this is a pipe dream and wont happen, NPL needs to have 12-14 teams, more games more opportunities. Ground improvements will eventually come there after, and also more fences.
The rest of the teams can play ZPL or merge, as its meant to be better then NL1 anyway.
You're
You said ambitious, not progressive. Yes, submitting NPL applications is ambitious. Running JDL is ambitious. Progressive wasn't mentioned. I can't comment on what progressive work is being undertaken as I don't sit on the committee of either Kahibah or Westy. And anyway, you raised both ambition and progressive, not me, so I made no statement on that. You want me to defend your words?
Again, the original post was about teams that should be considered. To which I responded. Please read the whole discussion and try and understand. You are missing the whole point. BBScone said New Lambton should go now and Belswans and Southy should be next. He said Westy and Kahibah should have further development. He said the rest should be passed over. I said that Kahibah and Westy were as deserving as Southy. Why is this so hard for you? You are all wrapped around the wheel about what you imagine was written, not was written. Or is it that you are just miffed that he excluded Wallsend? If so, take it up with him.
Mate, I have no more time to explain myself to you as you clearly don't want to understand the context.
prawnhead
07-04-2022, 07:18 PM
You're
You said ambitious, not progressive. Yes, submitting NPL applications is ambitious. Running JDL is ambitious. Progressive wasn't mentioned. I can't comment on what progressive work is being undertaken as I don't sit on the committee of either Kahibah or Westy. And anyway, you raised both ambition and progressive, not me, so I made no statement on that. You want me to defend your words?
Again, the original post was about teams that should be considered. To which I responded. Please read the whole discussion and try and understand. You are missing the whole point. BBScone said New Lambton should go now and Belswans and Southy should be next. He said Westy and Kahibah should have further development. He said the rest should be passed over. I said that Kahibah and Westy were as deserving as Southy. Why is this so hard for you? You are all wrapped around the wheel about what you imagine was written, not was written. Or is it that you are just miffed that he excluded Wallsend? If so, take it up with him.
Mate, I have no more time to explain myself to you as you clearly don't want to understand the context.
Boys - you both can't see the forest for the trees. Are you 1 year ahead or 1 year behind? Let's see who the dill is 😁
BBscone
10-04-2022, 11:17 AM
I'm really concerned about your ability to comprehend English.
Firstly, I was responding to BBScone so was addressing his post. He excluded Wallsend, Toronto and Singleton as he argues they are unable to field youth teams. He is wrong in the case of Wallsend.
He raised Kahibah and Westy. That's what I was addressing. If you have an issue with him leaving out Wallsend, take it up with him. I responded regarding the teams he discussed. Can you understand that or should I use smaller words?
But to address your only points that are not out of context. Southy, Westy and Kahibah submitted NPL applications so your comment about them not having ambition is clearly wrong. Did I say they should go into NPL? No, I simply said that Kahibah and Westy were as deserving as Southy.
Why wasn't Wallsend in my list? I had no list, I was responding to BBScone but if I did have a list I would include Wallsend as they have managed to fill all teams this year. Do try to not put words in peoples mouths.
I can't address this:
"Hunter unfortunately it's people like your opinion and creativity is why football is in he state it is in Newcastle."
as it makes no sense.
So to be clear on MY opinion, free of addressing BBScone's post
1 De couple youth
2 NPL1 and NPL 2 each of 8 teams. No teams selected for either at this time
3 Facilities criteria to be given far less weight
4 Promotion and relegation
You can feel free to shoot those four points down. You can also feel free to share your opinion, if you have one.
Will you say "Sorry Hunter, I didn't read your post in the context of the post it was responding to and consequently I was wrong"? Of course you won't. If my post was the dumbest to date, you just surpassed it.
As you say, jog on.
FMD it is so frustrating having to explain simple things to people who speak/write first without thought. I don't disagree with two divisions of 8. That's the part of your reply that makes sense. Check the draws, two years in a row and Wallsend haven't been able to field all teams which is heart breaking because it is one of Newcastles more famous clubs. Their Youth teams are miles off. Ground criteria is a farce. The limited enclosed grounds in Newcastle are the domain of a minority in football and Rugby versions have the better ones. The football versions are cobbled together on scrap metal and volunteer labour. To call Magic Park a stadium is delusional. Ambitious clubs will spend if they have a carrot. NL have the Alder plans in place that were in the Herald last month, it won't be perfect but they run a licensed venue now and their model seems to be as good as any. At the end of the day, what's the ****ing point of football if the best teams are not rewarded and the worst face consequence?. It happens all over the world, except in little old Northern NSW. My reference to Belswans and Southy was that they are both next best performing. Shouldn't it always be about performance? I agree Westy are in the zone of most potential but they have been in the second tier for a long long time so maybe they need to look at their administration. They have a great ground, development all around them but they don't see consistent results. As for the bell end comments someone made about Wallsends facility let's be honest. It's not Breakers anymore. It is a pigeon shit infested ghost town. A bar? Hardly a place to kick back and enjoy an ale after a game. Who goes there apart from the dog track members? They should follow NLs lead and go to Wallsend Park, put a fence around it and put up with the cricket pitch and return to their roots of Wallsend CBD. Birmingham Gardens is not Wallsend. Kahibah are never far off but this forum has shown that they would want assurances that there is something to invest in having been screwed over in promotion attempts in the past. The general gist here is leadership and direction. Or, leave it as it is and the local comp continues to get worse and the ZL comps back fill with better players who couldn't give a shit about NPL ambition. There are serious decisions to be made sooner rather than later.
W8 WATCHER
10-04-2022, 06:28 PM
I would like to take you up on this offer as I am thrilled about the appointment of Ruben Zadkovich at Perth Glory and keen to go watch the impact he has on the team.
So the impact as all expected, nothing shit coach, shit person shit player and your judgement in football shit aswell
BS detecor
10-04-2022, 07:44 PM
So the impact as all expected, nothing shit coach, shit person shit player and your judgement in football shit aswell
(Googles who did zadkovich cut from magic)
W8 WATCHER
10-04-2022, 07:45 PM
(Googles who did zadkovich cut from magic)
🤣 himself
W8 WATCHER
19-04-2022, 09:49 PM
Westy 4- NL 2
Upset
sapdad
20-04-2022, 11:35 AM
Westy 4- NL 2
Upset
All those hypothetical victories over Magic and Edgy in preseason seems to have worn them out.
jessepinkman
20-04-2022, 12:55 PM
All those hypothetical victories over Magic and Edgy in preseason seems to have worn them out.
Figured out who this is now
GO AWAY
20-04-2022, 01:30 PM
What happened to the heritage cup this year ?
ForeverRed
20-04-2022, 01:31 PM
Belswans v Kahibah score ?
Hunter403
20-04-2022, 02:49 PM
Belswans v Kahibah score ?
3-1 to Belswans. Far closer than the score suggests. Belswans took just about every chance they had while Kahibah were wasteful. Overall. pretty evenly matched sides. Refereeing was a little lax and a few dodgy tackles were happening
ForeverRed
20-04-2022, 09:05 PM
3-1 to Belswans. Far closer than the score suggests. Belswans took just about every chance they had while Kahibah were wasteful. Overall. pretty evenly matched sides. Refereeing was a little lax and a few dodgy tackles were happening
Cheers
fozphantom
21-04-2022, 12:45 AM
Westy 4 v NL 2?
All those hypothetical victories over Magic and Edgy in preseason seems to have worn them out.
guess that's the invincible season busted! :blush:
GO AWAY
23-04-2022, 11:52 PM
Toronto Awaba 5 West Wallsend 2
W8 WATCHER
24-04-2022, 10:04 AM
Westy 4 v NL 2?
guess that's the invincible season busted! :blush:
🤣
Hows CHFC ,
fine start of the NPL season , 11 new players huge money spent , 1 point, and a thousand conceded.
wooden spoon ,is definitely a sure bet.
W8 WATCHER
24-04-2022, 10:08 AM
Blown the budget on has beens, 1 point and a 1000 conceded, excellent investment CHFC .
May e wooden spoon to add to the trophy cabinet
W8 WATCHER
25-04-2022, 09:14 AM
Westy 4 v NL 2?
guess that's the invincible season busted! :blush:
Possibly
But a Wooden spoon for cooks hill is a certainty 😂
fozphantom
25-04-2022, 04:02 PM
Errr...they're not in this league. :blush:
fozphantom
25-04-2022, 04:03 PM
Possibly
But a Wooden spoon for cooks hill is a certainty
errr....they're not in this league any more. :blush:
GO AWAY
25-04-2022, 04:09 PM
I’m just waiting for the, look at stags 18s result, instead of a 5-2 win over the team that just beat NL 4-2…. I’m sure daggers be out if it was westy 5-2….. go the stags
W8 WATCHER
25-04-2022, 05:01 PM
errr....they're not in this league any more. :blush:
Errrrr
Could end up there again😉
W8 WATCHER
25-04-2022, 05:01 PM
Great result for the stags, team to watch
W8 WATCHER
25-04-2022, 05:11 PM
I’m just waiting for the, look at stags 18s result, instead of a 5-2 win over the team that just beat NL 4-2…. I’m sure daggers be out if it was westy 5-2….. go the stags
Great result for the stags, a team to watch
Undertaker
25-04-2022, 10:32 PM
I’m just waiting for the, look at stags 18s result, instead of a 5-2 win over the team that just beat NL 4-2…. I’m sure daggers be out if it was westy 5-2….. go the stags
Having 8 players play isn’t going to end pretty for any team is it… The fact it was only 7-0 with 3 extra players for 65 minutes and 4 extra players for the last 15 is sad on Westy’s part. Stags didn’t stop until the end and did well considering the circumstances. Watch out this weekend for when they have a full team again. Will be interesting.
jessepinkman
26-04-2022, 02:42 AM
Having 8 players play isn’t going to end pretty for any team is it… The fact it was only 7-0 with 3 extra players for 65 minutes and 4 extra players for the last 15 is sad on Westy’s part. Stags didn’t stop until the end and did well considering the circumstances. Watch out this weekend for when they have a full team again. Will be interesting.
its a great improvement for stags 18s - remembering their 18s lost 12 - 0 to New Lambton last year. Stags 16s last year were good and if 7 or 8 players can hold westy to only 7....might be another long year for the westy 18s. Well done to stags on starting to steady the ship in the younger ranks, obviously paying off in firsts.
Goatscheese
26-04-2022, 09:42 AM
its a great improvement for stags 18s - remembering their 18s lost 12 - 0 to New Lambton last year. Stags 16s last year were good and if 7 or 8 players can hold westy to only 7....might be another long year for the westy 18s. Well done to stags on starting to steady the ship in the younger ranks, obviously paying off in firsts.
Steady the ship? Right now it is two pieces of drift wood. They are missing three teams from the younger ranks.
W8 WATCHER
26-04-2022, 10:58 AM
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thanks kitz
thanks kitz
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i have resolved the problem, no therapist required. lol
jessepinkman
26-04-2022, 03:22 PM
Steady the ship? Right now it is two pieces of drift wood. They are missing three teams from the younger ranks.
oh in junior football its atrocious. But last years 18s side couldn't string a pass together, coach spent all game berating the players and yelling some very elementary things that seemed straight outta the Scorps rather than the stags, outsiders could tell players hated it and nobody wanted to be there - it was cringe to watch from the sidelines. Clearly this years group is better, and whilst we can dump on clubs for getting things wrong (and we should re 13s-16s at stags) its also good to recognise clubs taking something in the right direction.
They need to address the massive issue in their junior ranks and need to do it fast - however, this is at least a step in the right direction, in an age group where many clubs end up going backward a little bit.
sapdad
27-04-2022, 03:27 PM
They need to address the massive issue in their junior ranks and need to do it fast - however, this is at least a step in the right direction, in an age group where many clubs end up going backward a little bit.
Where do all the best kids from that area go to play?Lakes/Edgeworth or is it just not a big football area?
BS detecor
27-04-2022, 05:25 PM
Where do all the best kids from that area go to play?Lakes/Edgeworth or is it just not a big football area?
Well they don’t go to lakes
BBscone
28-04-2022, 12:40 AM
Where do all the best kids from that area go to play?Lakes/Edgeworth or is it just not a big football area?Their Youth teams have been abysmal for a couple of years. They had a decent 16s from memory last year or before but missing teams and now a 1st grade propped up with a few mercenaries does not a Club make.
GO AWAY
28-04-2022, 03:36 AM
One of the “ mercenaries “ didn’t play in the 5-2 win, so it’s not them propping first grade up. Youth is not happening but it’s not through lack of trying
Undertaker
28-04-2022, 12:24 PM
Their Youth teams have been abysmal for a couple of years. They had a decent 16s from memory last year or before but missing teams and now a 1st grade propped up with a few mercenaries does not a Club make.
Their 16’s would have gone very close to winning the grand final last year. Look out for their 18’s this year who are the same side with a few upgrades
Goatscheese
28-04-2022, 02:04 PM
Their 16’s would have gone very close to winning the grand final last year. Look out for their 18’s this year who are the same side with a few upgrades
A good side yes but 10 points off an undefeated side (who had only played Stags once), is not very close to winning the grand final
Undertaker
28-04-2022, 02:31 PM
A good side yes but 10 points off an undefeated side (who had only played Stags once), is not very close to winning the grand final
Toronto beat them 3-0 in pre season and had a slow start against them conceding 2 in 5 minutes and then dominated the rest of the game.
Drew 1-1 with NL too? Finishing 3rd on the same points as second with the second best defence in the comp by not many either. Had Belswans and NL still to play. They still had every chance to make their case. I believe they went 7 games unbeaten and won 5 in a row?
Don’t know how that’s not putting their best foot forward to go close to winning it if the season carried on?
FootballFiend4957
30-04-2022, 02:46 PM
Amen, Toronto's youth has been a shambles last few years. Struggle to attract players, however, with increased fee's and requirements from Northern makes it hard to attract players with such high costs to play in the 2nd div.
GO AWAY
30-04-2022, 10:44 PM
Belswans 2 Toronto Awaba 0
Great game
Goatscheese
02-05-2022, 11:02 AM
Had Belswans and NL still to play.
My point exactly after losing to these two they would've been further away from the top of the ladder
Undertaker
02-05-2022, 01:55 PM
My point exactly after losing to these two they would've been further away from the top of the ladder
New Lambton failed to beat them in the first round so to say they would have been beaten in both games is a silly claim to make.
Goatscheese
02-05-2022, 02:30 PM
New Lambton failed to beat them in the first round so to say they would have been beaten in both games is a silly claim to make.
Umm, New Lambton beat them 12-0, they also lost to BelSwans 7-0
jessepinkman
02-05-2022, 04:17 PM
Umm, New Lambton beat them 12-0, they also lost to BelSwans 7-0
I think you're mixing your grades up. New Lambton 18s beat Toronto 18s 12-0 in 2021 - their 16s were the side that did well after they picked up the Lakes NPL kids that got cut (not their own players).
However, I don't think 16s results really have any relevance. It's a 2 age group jump. Undertakers' claims make sense for 2023..but not for 2022. I know both Belswans and New Lambton 18s had a LOT of bottom age kids last year who would still be eligible for 18s this year...means Toronto's 18s are a year below them...obviously, a good club is promoting kids to Reserve grade even if they are still age-eligible for 18s (better for their development - that's a whole 'nother debate as some clubs don't do this, they stack 18s instead) so some might not be there, but you would assume both Belswans and NL would be very strong in 18s again considering their teams last year were mostly 16-year-olds turning 17 who would be returning.
The biggest problem with stags 18s last year was what could be heard from the stands as a spectator. No kid wants to be spoken to that way, especially when it's not making any sense from a football point of view either. I mean some kids respond well to coaching sprays... but usually only when they have some sort of football weight/knowledge behind them. Embarrassing. The new good players are mostly those that were cut from Lakes after that debacle, so it's not as if development has been fixed. Hopefully they're focusing on knowledgable coaches who foster player development for this crop they've been handed. If not, it'l just be the same problem again.
The Hacker
02-05-2022, 07:46 PM
Any truth to the rumour Stafford and McGuire had a half time blow up and McGuire isnt returning
Undertaker
02-05-2022, 10:22 PM
Umm, New Lambton beat them 12-0, they also lost to BelSwans 7-0
They lost 2-0 to Belswans and had a 1-1 draw with New Lambton but yeah sure
The Berlin Wall
02-05-2022, 10:33 PM
They lost 2-0 to Belswans and had a 1-1 draw with New Lambton but yeah sure
Don’t worry about Cheesy. He’s got halitosis of the fingers. Everything he types stinks of shit.
Goatscheese
03-05-2022, 09:54 AM
They lost 2-0 to Belswans and had a 1-1 draw with New Lambton but yeah sure
I've been talking about the 18s
terry
03-05-2022, 07:04 PM
Any truth to the rumour Stafford and McGuire had a half time blow up and McGuire isnt returning
Very quiet so probably
Hunter403
05-05-2022, 06:48 AM
Kahibah 4 def Southy 1
BBscone
05-05-2022, 09:17 AM
I think you're mixing your grades up. New Lambton 18s beat Toronto 18s 12-0 in 2021 - their 16s were the side that did well after they picked up the Lakes NPL kids that got cut (not their own players).
However, I don't think 16s results really have any relevance. It's a 2 age group jump. Undertakers' claims make sense for 2023..but not for 2022. I know both Belswans and New Lambton 18s had a LOT of bottom age kids last year who would still be eligible for 18s this year...means Toronto's 18s are a year below them...obviously, a good club is promoting kids to Reserve grade even if they are still age-eligible for 18s (better for their development - that's a whole 'nother debate as some clubs don't do this, they stack 18s instead) so some might not be there, but you would assume both Belswans and NL would be very strong in 18s again considering their teams last year were mostly 16-year-olds turning 17 who would be returning.
The biggest problem with stags 18s last year was what could be heard from the stands as a spectator. No kid wants to be spoken to that way, especially when it's not making any sense from a football point of view either. I mean some kids respond well to coaching sprays... but usually only when they have some sort of football weight/knowledge behind them. Embarrassing. The new good players are mostly those that were cut from Lakes after that debacle, so it's not as if development has been fixed. Hopefully they're focusing on knowledgable coaches who foster player development for this crop they've been handed. If not, it'l just be the same problem again.If their 18s are decent why are they playing 18s and not at least Res Grade? I saw NL v Southy 18s. Most of the NL team are last year's 16s and their 2021 18s have gone to Res.
Phansonic
05-05-2022, 10:57 AM
Can Kahibah explain why their U18s coach who posted on Facebook that he had tested positive to COVID was at the grounds the other night watching and coaching his team from the far side of the field?
Worse that when the ball would come out on his side he would handle the ball before giving it back to the players?
jessepinkman
05-05-2022, 04:49 PM
If their 18s are decent why are they playing 18s and not at least Res Grade? I saw NL v Southy 18s. Most of the NL team are last year's 16s and their 2021 18s have gone to Res.
If that is the case and is true, that’s an example of a club doing right by it’s players at the expense of results, and a club holding its players back at the expense of winning an age group grade. Surely the little #10 (don’t know his name or even if he wears #10, short haired whiz kid) is playing reserve grade and starting for belswans? If he’s still in 18s then you do wonder what the point is
jessepinkman
05-05-2022, 04:50 PM
Can Kahibah explain why their U18s coach who posted on Facebook that he had tested positive to COVID was at the grounds the other night watching and coaching his team from the far side of the field?
Worse that when the ball would come out on his side he would handle the ball before giving it back to the players?
Who is their 18s coach this year?
If this is true… Kahibah have to take it seriously. I know their president is on here a lot so I hope a response is provided? That’s worrying.
terry
05-05-2022, 10:16 PM
Can Kahibah explain why their U18s coach who posted on Facebook that he had tested positive to COVID was at the grounds the other night watching and coaching his team from the far side of the field?
Worse that when the ball would come out on his side he would handle the ball before giving it back to the players?
Kahibah has worse diseases than Covid. They immune to that soft stuff.
BBscone
06-05-2022, 12:18 AM
Very quiet so probablyMcGuire to Westy is as interesting as it is typical. Don't West Wallsend spruik about not paying players? He has gone out there for nothing? I just don't see the benefit in the mercenary whilst there are good enough kids to fill teams in Second Division.
W8 WATCHER
06-05-2022, 09:43 AM
Kahibah has worse diseases than Covid. They immune to that soft stuff.
Scott carter to kahibah.
So tippet, carter turnbull they must play for free according to moncrieff and his no paying player policy
The Courier Mail
06-05-2022, 11:16 AM
Few big games on this weekend! Any predictions?
terry
06-05-2022, 01:19 PM
McGuire to Westy is as interesting as it is typical. Don't West Wallsend spruik about not paying players? He has gone out there for nothing? I just don't see the benefit in the mercenary whilst there are good enough kids to fill teams in Second Division.
It's just the merry-go-round in action. we "dont pay" might mean free rego, trimmings from raffles, cars or even free rent that a club does. But in the end many do it.
matmoncrieff
07-05-2022, 08:47 AM
Scott carter to kahibah.
So tippet, carter turnbull they must play for free according to moncrieff and his no paying player policy
They do. What the issue with that? Sorry if that offends you.
W8 WATCHER
07-05-2022, 09:19 AM
They do. What the issue with that? Sorry if that offends you.
😆 🤣 😂 😆 🤣
Absolutely offended.
Must be the quality of coaching that compensates for it
The Courier Mail
07-05-2022, 09:33 PM
What is going on at Wallsend? New coach come in spending $$$ on a CB and other players aren't happy.
Former coach will be sniffing around
W8 WATCHER
07-05-2022, 09:40 PM
What is going on at Wallsend? New coach come in spending $$$ on a CB and other players aren't happy.
Former coach will be sniffing around
More like what's going on with west wallsend
2-1 lose to cessnock wtf
Who is the $$$$ CB at wallsend
The Courier Mail
07-05-2022, 09:55 PM
More like what's going on with west wallsend
2-1 lose to cessnock wtf
Who is the $$$$ CB at wallsend
The one that was signed from Cessnock
Glad they don't play players at Wallsend ;)
GO AWAY
18-05-2022, 10:56 AM
Toronto Awaba v New Lambton
Under 18 0-2
Reserves 1-1
Two good games
W8 WATCHER
18-05-2022, 11:47 PM
Toronto Awaba v New Lambton
Under 18 0-2
Reserves 1-1
Two good games
Hey GAway
How did 1st grade play out tonight
Yesk21
19-05-2022, 08:11 AM
hey gaway
how did 1st grade play out tonight
1-0 nl
W8 WATCHER
19-05-2022, 10:21 AM
just heard it was a grubby game.
poor refereeing
scott smith red card for dissent?
Yesk21
19-05-2022, 10:41 AM
just heard it was a grubby game.
poor refereeing
scott smith red card for dissent?
Wouldn’t say grubby game, was very competitive, ref not the greatest but it was still pretty even. And yes he was
GO AWAY
21-05-2022, 02:02 PM
Full credit to stags, plenty of rain, but still got the games on. So what if it’s abit muddy, it’s second division Football….. get amongst it. 😜
W8 WATCHER
21-05-2022, 04:53 PM
Full credit to stags, plenty of rain, but still got the games on. So what if it’s abit muddy, it’s second division Football….. get amongst it. 😜
How the field holding up at stags, any score
The Courier Mail
21-05-2022, 08:48 PM
How the field holding up at stags, any score
You trying to always cause a stir?
W8 WATCHER
21-05-2022, 09:19 PM
You trying to always cause a stir?
No TCM
Maybe your trying to stir.
apparently field was really soft mid week, and i was Interested to see if they bounced back at home against a good singo team
Undertaker
22-05-2022, 01:34 PM
No TCM
Maybe your trying to stir.
apparently field was really soft mid week, and i was Interested to see if they bounced back at home against a good singo team
14’s, 18’s and reserve grade got played
Referees called First grade off. Both clubs were happy to play
The Courier Mail
02-06-2022, 08:09 AM
Good to see Wallsend get there first win last night, time to move forward and leave the previous coach in the past.
Hotline
02-06-2022, 08:51 AM
Good to see Wallsend get there first win last night, time to move forward and leave the previous coach in the past.
Well done. Who is the new coach?
The Hacker
02-06-2022, 02:42 PM
Well done. Who is the new coach?
Which old coach are you referencing
Hotline
02-06-2022, 05:09 PM
Which old coach are you referencing
I was just referring to the comment "leave the previous coach in the past."
The Courier Mail
02-06-2022, 09:48 PM
The one that left this year due to not being appropriately qualified to coach a first grade team
The Hacker
02-06-2022, 09:51 PM
The one that left this year due to not being appropriately qualified to coach a first grade team
Didn’t they start the season with 2 head coaches
Undertaker
05-06-2022, 08:17 PM
Stags vs Cessnock
2-1 First grade
2-2 Ressies (Toronto red card early)
1-0 18’s
BBscone
05-06-2022, 11:17 PM
Stags vs Cessnock
2-1 First grade
2-2 Ressies (Toronto red card early)
1-0 18’sWatched this and although not a spectacle, much needed result for Stags in 1st. Deserved based on recent performances and a shout for 3rd or 4th? Cessnock slide continues. Did the 18s Coach at The Stags carry on like a special and abuse his own players and officials again? I got there late. He is getting a reputation. Not a great player by any means, carries on otherwise.
GO AWAY
06-06-2022, 08:49 AM
Watched this and although not a spectacle, much needed result for Stags in 1st. Deserved based on recent performances and a shout for 3rd or 4th? Cessnock slide continues. Did the 18s Coach at The Stags carry on like a special and abuse his own players and officials again? I got there late. He is getting a reputation. Not a great player by any means, carries on otherwise.
Led 2-0 and should have went on with it, second half from stags was very flat, for some reason they can’t finish off 2-0 leads ( already dropped two points v southy after leading 2-0 ) ….. Pete McPherson is class, playing three at back the whole game was entertaining, whether he’s at 6 or CB, on the ball he’s great. Two games v Wallsend this week will be interesting.
BBscone
06-06-2022, 11:19 PM
Led 2-0 and should have went on with it, second half from stags was very flat, for some reason they can’t finish off 2-0 leads ( already dropped two points v southy after leading 2-0 ) ….. Pete McPherson is class, playing three at back the whole game was entertaining, whether he’s at 6 or CB, on the ball he’s great. Two games v Wallsend this week will be interesting.It could seriously kick start their year. Wallsend just lost their Brazilian to Azzurri. That's them set for a spoon. I saw them a couple of weeks ago. Not many games but nothing there and not much going on off the park. Sad for Newcastle's most famous Club. 6 point week for Stags and Top 4?
W8 WATCHER
07-06-2022, 11:15 AM
It could seriously kick start their year. Wallsend just lost their Brazilian to Azzurri. That's them set for a spoon. I saw them a couple of weeks ago. Not many games but nothing there and not much going on off the park. Sad for Newcastle's most famous Club. 6 point week for Stags and Top 4?
interesting signing for azzurri, maybe the coach got excited with his profile on the NNSWF website, and he is from brazil.
as he is a ex wallsend player now, he really didn't offer much, eg on weekend he sat on bench and played 10 minutes.
good luck to him playing reserve grade, i suppose.
as for wallsend, things need to change, we were terrible, not sure what the coach was watching, with his comments on unlucky to win. we were lucky not to lose by 10
The Courier Mail
07-06-2022, 01:23 PM
interesting signing for azzurri, maybe the coach got excited with his profile on the NNSWF website, and he is from brazil.
as he is a ex wallsend player now, he really didn't offer much, eg on weekend he sat on bench and played 10 minutes.
good luck to him playing reserve grade, i suppose.
as for wallsend, things need to change, we were terrible, not sure what the coach was watching, with his comments on unlucky to win. we were lucky not to lose by 10
That unusual for you to mention the Brazilian when he played under you its all you would ever talk about!
Good on him great opportunity to see what it is like at the next level
Same comments different coach- joint co coach who left trying to have a dig at current coach..... LOL
GO AWAY
07-06-2022, 11:13 PM
Toronto Awaba 2 Wallsend 0
Hurricane
07-06-2022, 11:30 PM
Toronto Awaba 2 Wallsend 0
How did the Brazilian go
Yesk21
08-06-2022, 09:10 AM
He was kept quiet
GO AWAY
08-06-2022, 11:11 AM
How did the Brazilian go
Not sure….. couldn’t see any players, the lighting is atrocious in the middle third of the field. Surely such a proud old club could do better and deserve better.
Eastwest
08-06-2022, 10:51 PM
Not sure….. couldn’t see any players, the lighting is atrocious in the middle third of the field. Surely such a proud old club could do better and deserve better.
Pride? RIP. Would like to know where all the Wallsend youth are ending up. On ICE?
Cause this club should be better than this purely on a location basis.
Not many Suburban teams out West.
BBscone
14-06-2022, 12:42 AM
Pride? RIP. Would like to know where all the Wallsend youth are ending up. On ICE?
Cause this club should be better than this purely on a location basis.
Not many Suburban teams out West. Add a few more Clubs to this list of abject failure. Look at the table, Wallsend, West Wallsend, Cessnock, all famous clubs with more Socceroos than most local clubs and now serious speed humps in Youth and Senior football. What's the excuse? Demographics, surely not.
SAPDADDY
20-06-2022, 10:59 AM
Westy finally got up yesterday.
Is sills that great of a coach?
BBscone
20-06-2022, 02:30 PM
Westy finally got up yesterday.
Is sills that great of a coach?Hard to quantify in Newcastle unless a Coach has a baseline budget and gets decent results. Cash is king.
GO AWAY
20-06-2022, 04:19 PM
Well done to sillsy. Stags without smith, McPherson, Purcell, Fittler and cook done his hammy early. Westy May had players missing as well …. Anyway young boys put up a good effort, hopefully can get some back for Belswans on Saturday
Undertaker
23-06-2022, 02:55 PM
Stags continue their run with a 4-1 win over SingoÂ… With no Pete Macpherson or Zane Winslade.
Is this the year the finals drought ends?
GO AWAY
23-06-2022, 11:47 PM
Stags continue their run with a 4-1 win over SingoÂ… With no Pete Macpherson or Zane Winslade.
Is this the year the finals drought ends?
One game at a time. Belswans on Saturday will be a great test. Scott Smith missing after being given the softest straight red in history, seemed that live and can’t change my opinion after watching the game over again. Absolute terrible decision. 2-1 up when stags lost him and finish 4-1 winners ( a man down ) awesome effort, now they have to back it up at home v the leaders.
BBscone
25-06-2022, 08:21 AM
One game at a time. Belswans on Saturday will be a great test. Scott Smith missing after being given the softest straight red in history, seemed that live and can’t change my opinion after watching the game over again. Absolute terrible decision. 2-1 up when stags lost him and finish 4-1 winners ( a man down ) awesome effort, now they have to back it up at home v the leaders.NL, Belswans, Toronto and Thornton. Points are dropping week to week below the top 3 and the rest are making it interesting amongst themselves but a clear divide exists. Interesting aside from Cessnock and Wallsend. I would love to be a fly on the wall at those Committee meetings. Planning for 2023.....where does one start. No quality in any Youth division, Seniors horribly poor. Surely Northern see this. Singleton Res apparently lost to NL 18s midweek. The whole comp is a cluster and if the Second Div is not strong the top is in trouble.
GO AWAY
26-06-2022, 12:36 AM
NL, Belswans, Toronto and Thornton. Points are dropping week to week below the top 3 and the rest are making it interesting amongst themselves but a clear divide exists. Interesting aside from Cessnock and Wallsend. I would love to be a fly on the wall at those Committee meetings. Planning for 2023.....where does one start. No quality in any Youth division, Seniors horribly poor. Surely Northern see this. Singleton Res apparently lost to NL 18s midweek. The whole comp is a cluster and if the Second Div is not strong the top is in trouble.
The stags backed it up ….
Toronto Awaba 1 Belmont Swansea 0
SAPDADDY
26-06-2022, 11:25 AM
Toronto should be promoted and an inner city club dropped
GO AWAY
26-06-2022, 11:41 AM
Toronto should be promoted and an inner city club dropped
Settle lol
ForeverRed
26-06-2022, 12:25 PM
Toronto should be promoted and an inner city club dropped
🎣🎣🎣🎣
SAPDADDY
26-06-2022, 04:55 PM
🎣🎣🎣🎣
Ok promote westy
ForeverRed
26-06-2022, 05:13 PM
Ok promote westywhat about Cessnock
BBscone
26-06-2022, 10:48 PM
what about CessnockSlight problem with the Clubs mentioned, Stags, Cessnock, Westy. Their management can't put competitive programs together in NL1. Stags can't field Youth teams. Year after year, all of these Clubs mediocre. If postcode is the key to promotion, are they parachuting some cashed up smart Committee people too? It should be NL, 5 years in NewFM/NL1, looks like 3 titles after today's results and Youth teams who beat NPL teams now in pre season without recruiting to do so. Financially secure, own Club. Yes ground needs work but it looks like that is being done now with the excavators working overtime the last time I drove past. Its a done deal. 12 team NPL 2023 enter another Eagles signed sealed delivered.
ForeverRed
27-06-2022, 07:28 AM
Hook line and sinker
SAPDADDY
27-06-2022, 10:28 AM
Hook line and sinker
There it is
ForeverRed
27-06-2022, 12:19 PM
There it is😂😂
W8 WATCHER
27-06-2022, 12:27 PM
😂😂
So many Rex khunts here
BP Super Dynamos
29-06-2022, 11:34 PM
Westy v Singleton
0-4
Westy were very poor against a well organised Singleton side who counter punched to perfection
RainMaker
06-07-2022, 11:42 PM
Slight problem with the Clubs mentioned, Stags, Cessnock, Westy. Their management can't put competitive programs together in NL1. Stags can't field Youth teams. Year after year, all of these Clubs mediocre. If postcode is the key to promotion, are they parachuting some cashed up smart Committee people too? It should be NL, 5 years in NewFM/NL1, looks like 3 titles after today's results and Youth teams who beat NPL teams now in pre season without recruiting to do so. Financially secure, own Club. Yes ground needs work but it looks like that is being done now with the excavators working overtime the last time I drove past. Its a done deal. 12 team NPL 2023 enter another Eagles signed sealed delivered.
They just need to off their president and nothing will hold them back. Bring back the golden eagles
BBscone
07-07-2022, 09:21 AM
They just need to off their president and nothing will hold them back. Bring back the golden eagles A very big rumour that if they get up a well credentialed Coach from a neighbouring powerhouse is coming across to run the show. If he does, it will be a very different landscape. They must have some cash. Old mate will want to bring in his own crew.
W8 WATCHER
07-07-2022, 09:51 AM
A very big rumour that if they get up a well credentialed Coach from a neighbouring powerhouse is coming across to run the show. If he does, it will be a very different landscape. They must have some cash. Old mate will want to bring in his own crew.
That wouldn't be aka Pep G, from Kahibah would it..🤣😂😂
The Courier Mail
07-07-2022, 10:12 AM
A very big rumour that if they get up a well credentialed Coach from a neighbouring powerhouse is coming across to run the show. If he does, it will be a very different landscape. They must have some cash. Old mate will want to bring in his own crew.
Was going to say it might be the former coach from Wallsend going to do it, but we all know he spat the dummy about being have to do his tickets.
W8 WATCHER
07-07-2022, 10:27 AM
Was going to say it might be the former coach from Wallsend going to do it, but we all know he spat the dummy about being have to do his tickets.
Nah
Knocked it back 😴
Reds Forever
07-07-2022, 11:38 AM
A very big rumour that if they get up a well credentialed Coach from a neighbouring powerhouse is coming across to run the show. If he does, it will be a very different landscape. They must have some cash. Old mate will want to bring in his own crew.
That sounds to me to be DZ. Massive news if true.
W8 WATCHER
07-07-2022, 08:57 PM
I have been reading the long winded previews from KFC coaching staff.
I am a little confused though with the comments. quote "But there form is as good as anyone" ?*♂️
NL are 1st on table, they have a game in hand to Belswans, only lost 1 game ( 1st game played), conceded the least amount of goals and have scored the most.
And there comments were-
"Nothing [New Lambton] brings to the field scares us but obviously their form is as good as anybody’s in the competition".
Last night the boys were so unlucky with a under strength team on park, toconceded on a deflection in extra time and lose 4-3. a draw was more appropriate.
We maybe finally turning a new leaf, we have thus far scored only 8 goals this year, and 3 were scored last night.
Good to see some of the youngsters are stepping up. go the red devils.
The Courier Mail
08-07-2022, 09:21 AM
I have been reading the long winded previews from KFC coaching staff.
I am a little confused though with the comments. quote "But there form is as good as anyone" ?��*♂️
NL are 1st on table, they have a game in hand to Belswans, only lost 1 game ( 1st game played), conceded the least amount of goals and have scored the most.
And there comments were-
"Nothing [New Lambton] brings to the field scares us but obviously their form is as good as anybody’s in the competition".
Last night the boys were so unlucky with a under strength team on park, toconceded on a deflection in extra time and lose 4-3. a draw was more appropriate.
We maybe finally turning a new leaf, we have thus far scored only 8 goals this year, and 3 were scored last night.
Good to see some of the youngsters are stepping up. go the red devils.
Why are you referring to them as the boys..... you left them.... another LOSS chalked up for the mighty devils
They keep going this bad you might get a call up LOL
W8 WATCHER
08-07-2022, 10:54 AM
Why are you referring to them as the boys..... you left them.... another LOSS chalked up for the mighty devils
They keep going this bad you might get a call up LOL
MEN then?
not interested in tickets, however still follow the red devils, if thats ok with you
Hunter403
08-07-2022, 11:59 AM
I have been reading the long winded previews from KFC coaching staff.
I am a little confused though with the comments. quote "But there form is as good as anyone" ?��*♂️
NL are 1st on table, they have a game in hand to Belswans, only lost 1 game ( 1st game played), conceded the least amount of goals and have scored the most.
And there comments were-
"Nothing [New Lambton] brings to the field scares us but obviously their form is as good as anybody’s in the competition".
Last night the boys were so unlucky with a under strength team on park, toconceded on a deflection in extra time and lose 4-3. a draw was more appropriate.
We maybe finally turning a new leaf, we have thus far scored only 8 goals this year, and 3 were scored last night.
Good to see some of the youngsters are stepping up. go the red devils.
And Kahibah used a field player in goal. Whilst Wallsend scored 3, two were keeper errors...
W8 WATCHER
08-07-2022, 03:21 PM
And Kahibah used a field player in goal. Whilst Wallsend scored 3, two were keeper errors...
so what's the point your making?
i though all teams use a field player in a game?
Hunter403
08-07-2022, 03:42 PM
Read it again..:facepalm:. Kahibah's goal keeper was a player who normally does not play in goal. No goal keepers were available so a field player went in goal. In other words, not a goal keeper under normal circumstances, and this was obvious in the way two goals were conceded. The point is that Wallsend scoring 3 might have been a bit flattering to them and whilst I hope they have turned "a new leaf", don't read too much into last night.
matmoncrieff
08-07-2022, 04:07 PM
I have been reading the long winded previews from KFC coaching staff.
I am a little confused though with the comments. quote "But there form is as good as anyone" ?��*♂️
NL are 1st on table, they have a game in hand to Belswans, only lost 1 game ( 1st game played), conceded the least amount of goals and have scored the most.
And there comments were-
"Nothing [New Lambton] brings to the field scares us but obviously their form is as good as anybodyÂ’s in the competition".
Last night the boys were so unlucky with a under strength team on park, toconceded on a deflection in extra time and lose 4-3. a draw was more appropriate.
We maybe finally turning a new leaf, we have thus far scored only 8 goals this year, and 3 were scored last night.
Good to see some of the youngsters are stepping up. go the red devils.
What's confusing champion, it's my opinion sorry. What's with all the Kahibah bashing and personnel jabs at me? It's not like their is some big rivalry between the clubs. Win lose or draw the other night, young players or old players your club has gone a long way backwards from the level they got to last season. That's not having a go at anyone, that's just saying maybe you should be more worried about your club and 1st grade results instead of being worried about other clubs trying to do their best as well as what other coaches opinions are on other teams in the comp. It's pretty pathetic.
Regards
Pep G
Yeah everyone stop bashing.
These bum fights are embarrassing.
W8 WATCHER
08-07-2022, 06:05 PM
What's confusing champion, it's my opinion sorry. What's with all the Kahibah bashing and personnel jabs at me? It's not like their is some big rivalry between the clubs. Win lose or draw the other night, young players or old players your club has gone a long way backwards from the level they got to last season. That's not having a go at anyone, that's just saying maybe you should be more worried about your club and 1st grade results instead of being worried about other clubs trying to do their best as well as what other coaches opinions are on other teams in the comp. It's pretty pathetic.
Regards
Pep G
My apologies
Two tone
08-07-2022, 09:02 PM
A very big rumour that if they get up a well credentialed Coach from a neighbouring powerhouse is coming across to run the show. If he does, it will be a very different landscape. They must have some cash. Old mate will want to bring in his own crew.
Mate you’re a Muppet. You have just sent said coach under the bus. Why would he now move to a club that can’t stay quiet about coaching staff or incoming players.
BBscone
09-07-2022, 08:55 AM
Mate you’re a Muppet. You have just sent said coach under the bus. Why would he now move to a club that can’t stay quiet about coaching staff or incoming players.When he told me it wasn't exactly a secret. Its community football numb nuts. Not exactly going to affect the mortgage repayments. Keep the fantasy Prem to your FIFA nights with the boys.
BBscone
09-07-2022, 09:02 AM
Mate you’re a Muppet. You have just sent said coach under the bus. Why would he now move to a club that can’t stay quiet about coaching staff or incoming players.Well....I didn't mention that it came from the Club, thus reading might not be one of your strong suits. As for the potential incoming Coach, I actually said someone was coming in to run the show, not Coach and when the aforementioned individual told me he didn't say it was a secret. Its Community Football idiot, not exactly going to influence anyone's Mortgage repayments. Maybe park your Fantasy Prem ideals for the FIFA nights with the boys.
Two tone
09-07-2022, 02:55 PM
Well....I didn't mention that it came from the Club, thus reading might not be one of your strong suits. As for the potential incoming Coach, I actually said someone was coming in to run the show, not Coach and when the aforementioned individual told me he didn't say it was a secret. Its Community Football idiot, not exactly going to influence anyone's Mortgage repayments. Maybe park your Fantasy Prem ideals for the FIFA nights with the boys.
If you can’t see how you may have made things difficult for said coach.
Committee members read the forum.
I didn’t say he was coaching but did say coaching staff and incoming players.
I don’t play fantasy football or have FIFA nights I don’t have the time.
A very big rumour that if they get up a well credentialed Coach from a neighbouring powerhouse is coming across to run the show. If he does, it will be a very different landscape. They must have some cash. Old mate will want to bring in his own crew.
RH?
GO AWAY
14-07-2022, 01:20 PM
So …… how does Alder Park hold up in the rain ?
BBscone
17-07-2022, 05:50 PM
Fixtures reversed. Pitch held up ok. Surrounds a mess but construction looks interesting and that Club makes it a good venue. 1st 5-1 NL. Toronto had nothing. Res 8-2 NL. Toronto had nothing. 18s 9-0 NL HT...game abandoned because Toronto had 9 players and 3 mysterious injuries made it 6. No 16s....The Stags didn't exactly cover themselves in glory today. Or Northern for their inept governance. Premier Comp?
W8 WATCHER
17-07-2022, 06:44 PM
Fixtures reversed. Pitch held up ok. Surrounds a mess but construction looks interesting and that Club makes it a good venue. 1st 5-1 NL. Toronto had nothing. Res 8-2 NL. Toronto had nothing. 18s 9-0 NL HT...game abandoned because Toronto had 9 players and 3 mysterious injuries made it 6. No 16s....The Stags didn't exactly cover themselves in glory today. Or Northern for their inept governance. Premier Comp?
Pretty disappointing for the stags.
We all like beers and get together, however there socials are more interested in posting for past players to come and get pissed, from the 1900's to now, then advertising positions vacant in there teams.
I do Feel bad for the 18's though , those kids would be deflated, i do believe the club -1st grade team should be docked points, for a game to be abandoned due to not fielding players, or players in younger age groups to step up.
I understand 1st grade did nothing wrong, but if they lose points, it might make them act quick.
If we just accept this, then this is what we get.
BBscone
17-07-2022, 07:22 PM
This has been in the making for a while and the governing body has done nothing to avoid it. Simple solution but revenue drives the decisions. Wallsend v Belswans yesterday not much better by all accounts. At least Wallsend fielded an 18s. The comp is broken 2 tiers of 8 NPL 1 and 2. Promotion and Rel. The rest head back into a ZPL. So simple.
Undertaker
17-07-2022, 07:38 PM
Fixtures reversed. Pitch held up ok. Surrounds a mess but construction looks interesting and that Club makes it a good venue. 1st 5-1 NL. Toronto had nothing. Res 8-2 NL. Toronto had nothing. 18s 9-0 NL HT...game abandoned because Toronto had 9 players and 3 mysterious injuries made it 6. No 16s....The Stags didn't exactly cover themselves in glory today. Or Northern for their inept governance. Premier Comp?
3 mysterious injuries?
You mean 2 players who started cramping because they played reserve grade two and a third one complained his head being sore during his first game back from concussion… All you do is talk shit on here and attack other clubs. If you don’t have anything better to do you really need to rethink your life choices.
Are we going to stand here and question the lack of respect from the New Lambton 18’s?
9-0 up and celebrating like they just won the World Cup when they are playing 9 men? Look into your own backyard before you have a go at others. Yes it’s not their fault they were playing 9 men but you should know better being the “premier club” of the competition. Great roll model their captain is going up and celebrating in an opponents face when they went up 6-0.
Undertaker
17-07-2022, 07:40 PM
Pretty disappointing for the stags.
We all like beers and get together, however there socials are more interested in posting for past players to come and get pissed, from the 1900's to now, then advertising positions vacant in there teams.
I do Feel bad for the 18's though , those kids would be deflated, i do believe the club -1st grade team should be docked points, for a game to be abandoned due to not fielding players, or players in younger age groups to step up.
I understand 1st grade did nothing wrong, but if they lose points, it might make them act quick.
If we just accept this, then this is what we get.
As for you someone who’s not involved in a club to criticise how another club is ran 💀 Maybe you should go to a club where you don’t get kicked from
jessepinkman
17-07-2022, 07:44 PM
3 mysterious injuries?
You mean 2 players who started cramping because they played reserve grade two and a third one complained his head being sore during his first game back from concussion… All you do is talk shit on here and attack other clubs. If you don’t have anything better to do you really need to rethink your life choices.
Are we going to stand here and question the lack of respect from the New Lambton 18’s?
9-0 up and celebrating like they just won the World Cup when they are playing 9 men? Look into your own backyard before you have a go at others. Yes it’s not their fault they were playing 9 men but you should know better being the “premier club” of the competition. Great roll model their captain is going up and celebrating in an opponents face when they went up 6-0.
I don’t know about this one. I’m not involved this year but was last year in nl1 and we smacked Toronto, and also watched new Lambton smack them out at your ground as I was there to scout them. What did the Toronto players do at 5+ down? Aggravate, insult, be unnecessarily aggressive etc
Sorry but if you’re losing 5-0 and your default is to carry on like grubs (the coach last year was just as bad) it’s only normal for teenage boys to want to pile the misery on.
You get what you ask for in 16s and 18s football - the boys are full of raw emotion.
Undertaker
17-07-2022, 07:51 PM
I don’t know about this one. I’m not involved this year but was last year in nl1 and we smacked Toronto, and also watched new Lambton smack them out at your ground as I was there to scout them. What did the Toronto players do at 5+ down? Aggravate, insult, be unnecessarily aggressive etc
Sorry but if you’re losing 5-0 and your default is to carry on like grubs (the coach last year was just as bad) it’s only normal for teenage boys to want to pile the misery on.
You get what you ask for in 16s and 18s football - the boys are full of raw emotion.
Different players and different coaching staff.
Can’t comment on something you haven’t watched… Just proves that everyone on here is pathetic
jessepinkman
17-07-2022, 07:58 PM
Different players and different coaching staff.
Can’t comment on something you haven’t watched… Just proves that everyone on here is pathetic
Pathetic is getting tonked year after year and doing nothing about it.
Didn’t you tell everyone to look out for Toronto in 18s this year?
Anyway, re: personnel, Wouldn’t happen to be many of those kids from the 16s last year that got booted from lakes?
It’s a culture thing. Kids in age group football remember everything. If they didn’t play someone last year, a friend of theirs in a different comp did. They play against the same players. Carry on like a pelican one game, everyone remembers it. It’s rivalry.
Regardless of all of the above, it’s another year of not enough bodies at Toronto. Something should be done, it’s embarrassing and devalues the competition.
W8 WATCHER
17-07-2022, 08:02 PM
As for you someone who’s not involved in a club to criticise how another club is ran 💀 Maybe you should go to a club where you don’t get kicked from
Your something else.
Not sure where I insulted the teams or players?
My point was , rather posting on piss ups from the 1900's and beyond, post to look for players. Irrelevant what club I'm in or out, you can't take away that you turned up with f all players today, so if you don't take serious go and play zpl.
Lastly, I hope your name sake isn't the future of the stags.
My2BobsWorth
17-07-2022, 08:04 PM
Different players and different coaching staff.
Can’t comment on something you haven’t watched… Just proves that everyone on here is pathetic
I believe you are on here
BBscone
17-07-2022, 08:05 PM
I didn't see the 18s so unsure of the behaviour of NL players. Sounds a bit excessive. Contrary to your thoughts, I am not involved in NL. I follow them from afar and I am keen to see Clubs from lower divisions try and improve to shake up the NPL. No improvement means no game. You don't see me criticise Clubs who are having a decent crack, never once have I criticised Belswans, NL, Southy or Thornton. Cessnock field teams every week. No support from Northern but they turn up. Toronto were a grand old Club. Great players from the past. This is how many years and they haven't met criteria? This year they threw all their toys into two players and a first team. Don't play the downtrodden card. If they had 16s the kid with the headache and the kid cramping because he played Ressies could have been replaced by 16s. They couldn't because they don't have 16s. Or 15s or 13s. Not good enough Undertaker. You need to be honest with this and stop looking for excuses.
The Postman
17-07-2022, 09:51 PM
Patiently waiting for Go Away’s thoughts on this.
Yesk21
18-07-2022, 10:27 AM
Understandable for people to bag out Toronto youth grades for having no teams, as for the senior grades, we have had 12 players unavailable for half of this season, it’s been a huge effort from the 18s to help out, reserve grade aren’t having the worst year. And first grade are in the top 4 and got beat by the top of the ladder on our worst day of the year. As for splashing the cash on 2 big names, we haven’t splashed any cash on them. And most of our wins this year they haven’t been there for. We would have the youngest squad in the comp barring 2 tri experienced players that we brought in to help a young squad
GO AWAY
18-07-2022, 11:15 AM
Not even going to acknowledge big tough knife stabbing keyboard warriors…
Still making my way back to the car from the ground, I may respond when I have time.
Btw …… bagpipes 🤣🤣🤣
Hotline
18-07-2022, 11:49 AM
Haha nice response Go Away... having a go at the keyboard warriors, then turning into one by having a dig 😆
Hopefully just a terrible one off day from the stags. I did feel for the 18s - stags for obvious reasons but also for NL, I'm sure they would've preferred to have a full game against a competitive team. I commend the stags 18s for starting the game, but considering the circumstances, a pregame forfeit may have been more appropriate.
I noted Alder park surrounds were very boggy. But kudos to the NL folk for getting the field ready for a game. It looked mostly ok. At least gave me something to do on a Sunday 👍
W8 WATCHER
18-07-2022, 12:41 PM
Not even going to acknowledge big tough knife stabbing keyboard warriors…
Still making my way back to the car from the ground, I may respond when I have time.
Btw …… bagpipes 🤣🤣🤣
great response GA
maybe the bagpipes were to pay respect to the fallen
jessepinkman
18-07-2022, 09:37 PM
Not even going to acknowledge big tough knife stabbing keyboard warriors…
Still making my way back to the car from the ground, I may respond when I have time.
Btw …… bagpipes 🤣🤣🤣
Isn’t this just being a keyboard warrior yourself?
Plenty of clubs play 16s in 18s. Easy solution. Why can’t Toronto just cop that they’re embarrassing.
Bagpipes, yea a few clubs in the top few divisions looking to nod to their history - lame or otherwise, which is quite funny as “history” is where the stags are headed fast.
jessepinkman
18-07-2022, 09:39 PM
Understandable for people to bag out Toronto youth grades for having no teams, as for the senior grades, we have had 12 players unavailable for half of this season, it’s been a huge effort from the 18s to help out, reserve grade aren’t having the worst year. And first grade are in the top 4 and got beat by the top of the ladder on our worst day of the year. As for splashing the cash on 2 big names, we haven’t splashed any cash on them. And most of our wins this year they haven’t been there for. We would have the youngest squad in the comp barring 2 tri experienced players that we brought in to help a young squad
I get what you’re saying, but this problem is solved for other clubs by… filling out the youth teams.
BBscone
19-07-2022, 02:16 PM
On a positive note, Kahibah are doing well over the last few weeks, lots of injuries in 1sts at the start and they backfilled spots with kids. All on the back of a development system that loses more kids to NPL year on year but they keep on keeping on. Surrounded by NPL options and NL and Cooks Hill in their own league over recent years. You can find excuses or you find solutions.
BBscone
20-07-2022, 10:45 AM
I am doing some iso, anyone know a score from NL v Singleton last night? Nothing on socials and NL usually post quickly.
namwob99
20-07-2022, 11:56 AM
I am doing some iso, anyone know a score from NL v Singleton last night? Nothing on socials and NL usually post quickly.
Was in their fb story....NL won 1-0.
BBscone
20-07-2022, 03:27 PM
Just saw it. Thanks.
BBscone
24-07-2022, 04:03 PM
Singleton and Thornton 3-3. Probably ends Thornton's year and gives Westy a shot at 5th. Aside from that it's cue in the rack time. This comp is stale, just like the bottom of the NPL with no pro/relegation.
Singleton and Thornton 3-3. Probably ends Thornton's year and gives Westy a shot at 5th. Aside from that it's cue in the rack time. This comp is stale, just like the bottom of the NPL with no pro/relegation.
agree
BBscone
29-07-2022, 01:05 AM
With NL now up, all NL1 Clubs need to enforce mandatory criteria for all to follow and surely seek guidance on pro/rel with a date set. Southy, Belswans, Kahibah, Westy look like being the next group and all bring something. You cannot have lazy NPL Clubs sitting idle. Is it weird that the two most recent Clubs promoted to NL1 were the first to get out? What were other Clubs doing? Especially when Northern were screaming for a balanced demograph? 6 Clubs in NPL within 5kms of each other in 2023. At least it will create some rivalry in local football.
Spell Check
29-07-2022, 02:18 PM
With NL now up, all NL1 Clubs need to enforce mandatory criteria for all to follow and surely seek guidance on pro/rel with a date set. Southy, Belswans, Kahibah, Westy look like being the next group and all bring something. You cannot have lazy NPL Clubs sitting idle. Is it weird that the two most recent Clubs promoted to NL1 were the first to get out? What were other Clubs doing? Especially when Northern were screaming for a balanced demograph? 6 Clubs in NPL within 5kms of each other in 2023. At least it will create some rivalry in local football.
Different view to most but might Southy and Belswans like this new dynamic? They are a way off going to NPL so why not win a couple of premierships and get some pride back in the clubs. It's easier to build when you have some success, however relative that success is.
jessepinkman
29-07-2022, 07:25 PM
Different view to most but might Southy and Belswans like this new dynamic? They are a way off going to NPL so why not win a couple of premierships and get some pride back in the clubs. It's easier to build when you have some success, however relative that success is.
nah they've both been crying on socials about it
ForeverRed
29-07-2022, 09:38 PM
All Northern league one clubs need to band together and take the fight to football Australia, 3 points stand out, no promotion/relegation, no correspondence from northern in regards to New Lambton promotion and zero direction on where NPL and Northern league one are heading, not one club has any grudge against New Lambton promotion, good luck to them I say but clubs need direction and it’s clearly not available from NNSWF a the moment, to promote a club and then deliver no correspondence or direction on where the Northen league one comp is heading to remaining clubs is appalling in my opinion. It’s time to fight the fight.
Hunter403
29-07-2022, 09:41 PM
All Northern league one clubs need to band together and take the fight to football Australia, 3 points stand out, no promotion/relegation, no correspondence from northern in regards to New Lambton promotion and zero direction on where NPL and Northern league one are heading, not one club has any grudge against New Lambton promotion, good luck to them I say but clubs need direction and it’s clearly not available from NNSWF a the moment, to promote a club and then deliver no correspondence or direction on where the Northen league one comp is heading to remaining clubs is appalling in my opinion. It’s time to fight the fight.
Sounds like a plan!
jessepinkman
29-07-2022, 10:10 PM
All Northern league one clubs need to band together and take the fight to football Australia, 3 points stand out, no promotion/relegation, no correspondence from northern in regards to New Lambton promotion and zero direction on where NPL and Northern league one are heading, not one club has any grudge against New Lambton promotion, good luck to them I say but clubs need direction and it’s clearly not available from NNSWF a the moment, to promote a club and then deliver no correspondence or direction on where the Northen league one comp is heading to remaining clubs is appalling in my opinion. It’s time to fight the fight.
Everyone with half a brain knows promotion and relegation will fix football in this country - but the Fa have enabled the same locked out method for their national competition despite falling ratings, interest, and quality - also despite the FIFA charters that say pro/rel is necessary for an authorised fifa competition.
FA won’t help, it’s just an extension of the CFG anyway. Football in oz is killed in board rooms.
sapdad
29-07-2022, 11:51 PM
not one club has any grudge against New Lambton promotion, good luck to them I say but clubs need direction and it’s clearly not available from NNSWF a the moment, to promote a club and then deliver no correspondence or direction on where the Northern league one comp is heading to remaining clubs is appalling in my opinion.
Well said.
BBscone
30-07-2022, 11:53 AM
All Northern league one clubs need to band together and take the fight to football Australia, 3 points stand out, no promotion/relegation, no correspondence from northern in regards to New Lambton promotion and zero direction on where NPL and Northern league one are heading, not one club has any grudge against New Lambton promotion, good luck to them I say but clubs need direction and it’s clearly not available from NNSWF a the moment, to promote a club and then deliver no correspondence or direction on where the Northen league one comp is heading to remaining clubs is appalling in my opinion. It’s time to fight the fight.Couldn't agree more. Give Clubs direction to achieve and consequence if they don't. It happens all around the world except Northern NSW.
Undertaker
31-07-2022, 08:31 PM
2-1 Wallsend win in the derby!
Only saw the 2nd half and still got my moneys worth. As a neutral Westy we’re unlucky on a few offside calls. Wallsend scored a great goal to win the game with 10-15 to go working the ball around well inside the box. Very fiery 2nd half with 9 yellow cards in the game. Bit of fire and grubbiness is needed in this comp. Very good 2nd half from both sides. Wallsends LB by far the best player on the pitch
W8 WATCHER
31-07-2022, 09:02 PM
2-1 Wallsend win in the derby!
Only saw the 2nd half and still got my moneys worth. As a neutral Westy we’re unlucky on a few offside calls. Wallsend scored a great goal to win the game with 10-15 to go working the ball around well inside the box. Very fiery 2nd half with 9 yellow cards in the game. Bit of fire and grubbiness is needed in this comp. Very good 2nd half from both sides. Wallsends LB by far the best player on the pitch
I saw , some bloke with a blue and yellow jacket put a number on his cavoodle and sneak in. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Undertaker
31-07-2022, 09:50 PM
I saw , some bloke with a blue and yellow jacket put a number on his cavoodle and sneak in. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You must be mistaken because I wasn’t wearing blue or yellow?
Alton
01-08-2022, 01:34 PM
All Northern league one clubs need to band together and take the fight to football Australia, 3 points stand out, no promotion/relegation, no correspondence from northern in regards to New Lambton promotion and zero direction on where NPL and Northern league one are heading, not one club has any grudge against New Lambton promotion, good luck to them I say but clubs need direction and it’s clearly not available from NNSWF a the moment, to promote a club and then deliver no correspondence or direction on where the Northen league one comp is heading to remaining clubs is appalling in my opinion. It’s time to fight the fight.
Agree FR, this decision smells, not to mention 6 clubs next door to each other all after the same players from a rapidly dwindling talent pool,if they think NL juniors are staying the course from U/6 to NPL, thy aren't up to speed with what happens around here.
travellingman
01-08-2022, 04:25 PM
I heard on Saturday that NCC has plans to move Alder Park closer to the service station street end and build a grandstand on the northern end.
Interesting to see how this will impact cricket and little athletics that also use the ground.
Not sure how reliable the source that stated this is.
W8 WATCHER
01-08-2022, 05:05 PM
Agree FR, this decision smells, not to mention 6 clubs next door to each other all after the same players from a rapidly dwindling talent pool,if they think NL juniors are staying the course from U/6 to NPL, thy aren't up to speed with what happens around here.
SERIOUSLY! not sure what drugs your on!
what teams should be promoted?
Toronto,Singleton,Cessnock,Thornton,West Wallsend and Wallsend can't fields teams consistently, and have struggled over the last few years.
To be considered and promoted, you also need to win, and win consistently- besides New Lambton and Belswans, also the last few years Cooks Hill.
So unless there is imaginary suburbs we don't know about, can you please share.
In NPL, Weston struggles to get people to travel, Buds, Lakes and Valo struggle to get players?
Maitland have improved only just in last few years due to success.
So Sthy, Kahibah, Toronto, West Wallsend, Wallsend, Cessnock, Thornton have not won anything in the last 5+ years.
So why shouldn't New Lambton be promoted, regardless where there positioned, what there facility is etc.
they have been in NL1, for 5 years, and looking at 3 in the row minor premierships.
maybe Adamstown should be relegated, zero wins all year
matjpacker
02-08-2022, 09:14 AM
I heard on Saturday that NCC has plans to move Alder Park closer to the service station street end and build a grandstand on the northern end.
Interesting to see how this will impact cricket and little athletics that also use the ground.
Not sure how reliable the source that stated this is.
Your unreliable source is definitely unreliable in this instance. All the upgrades that are happening around the park have been done in consultation with ANLAC and other users of the park, and seating will only be in the sides, with the main undercover seating being on the Alder Park Sports Club side.
travellingman
02-08-2022, 11:42 AM
Your unreliable source is definitely unreliable in this instance. All the upgrades that are happening around the park have been done in consultation with ANLAC and other users of the park, and seating will only be in the sides, with the main undercover seating being on the Alder Park Sports Club side.
Thanks for the information update.
Will look forward to seeing the finished product
Hunter403
03-08-2022, 12:58 PM
Good article in the Newcastle Herald today quoting 4 NL1 clubs basically saying they have had enough of NNSW Football taking the money and treating them poorly. They say that NNSW has no plan for NL1 and they consider ZPL might be their best option.
Let's hear the spin form Northern over this one.
Let's hope the other NL1 clubs join with them to present a united case to NNSW Football.
For those on here with an affiliation with the NL1 clubs not mentioned, get onto your club and push them to join with Belswans, Kahibah, Toronto and Cessnock.
GO AWAY
04-08-2022, 11:18 AM
Good article in the Newcastle Herald today quoting 4 NL1 clubs basically saying they have had enough of NNSW Football taking the money and treating them poorly. They say that NNSW has no plan for NL1 and they consider ZPL might be their best option.
Let's hear the spin form Northern over this one.
Let's hope the other NL1 clubs join with them to present a united case to NNSW Football.
For those on here with an affiliation with the NL1 clubs not mentioned, get onto your club and push them to join with Belswans, Kahibah, Toronto and Cessnock.
I can’t see Singo, Thornton, Southy, Wallsend, westy thinking any different. NNSW now have their “ elite “ 12, bugger the rest, but we still want your exorbitant fees to win a trophy. The NL decision with limited consultation, the NL1 GF to be played at a NPL clubs ground to help them with revenue and the even stupider decision to play all / most other GF at the worst spectator and parking facility in the area I think is the last straw.
SAPDADDY
04-08-2022, 01:02 PM
I can’t see Singo, Thornton, Southy, Wallsend, westy thinking any different. NNSW now have their “ elite “ 12, bugger the rest, but we still want your exorbitant fees to win a trophy. The NL decision with limited consultation, the NL1 GF to be played at a NPL clubs ground to help them with revenue and the even stupider decision to play all / most other GF at the worst spectator and parking facility in the area I think is the last straw.
GF’s are at speers so northern can put money into their back pockets from canteen revenue, I’m sure they have a KPI they have to send to governing bodies which shows how often ‘community’ clubs use facilities for free.. if numbers are high they get more funding and grants thus GF being there.
W8 WATCHER
04-08-2022, 03:22 PM
I can’t see Singo, Thornton, Southy, Wallsend, westy thinking any different. NNSW now have their “ elite “ 12, bugger the rest, but we still want your exorbitant fees to win a trophy. The NL decision with limited consultation, the NL1 GF to be played at a NPL clubs ground to help them with revenue and the even stupider decision to play all / most other GF at the worst spectator and parking facility in the area I think is the last straw.
Not sure why teams think they should be consulted for NL's promotion! Consultation around the competition format- yes that's it.
so what your saying is, its up to NL1 teams to give permission for them to be promoted? seriously.:wtf:
as for throwing stones in glass houses, is Toronto in a position to negotiate, when they fail to comply by the rules, and not field teams.
Here's a thought, maybe all the piss taking from some NL1 teams over the last few years, is the reason why NNSWF is piss taking now as well?
BBscone
04-08-2022, 03:56 PM
Not sure why teams think they should be consulted for NL's promotion! Consultation around the competition format- yes that's it.
so what your saying is, its up to NL1 teams to give permission for them to be promoted? seriously.:wtf:
as for throwing stones in glass houses, is Toronto in a position to negotiate, when they fail to comply by the rules, and not field teams.
Here's a thought, maybe all the piss taking from some NL1 teams over the last few years, is the reason why NNSWF is piss taking now as well? I can't disagree. As I have mentioned before. The last 2 Clubs "promoted" to NL1 were the first 2 to get out and I don't believe it was ever a secret that they both wanted to go up. Is that luck? Coincidence? Devious consultation with Northern or just good management? Hand on heart, probably the latter. Remains to be seen if NL do it better than Cooks Hill in Year 1. They were both dominant on the park in NL1 in all ages, it seems they were also better off the park. To be honest, aside from Belswans on the park and unsure of their back office or financial position, all of the other Clubs are seriously miles away.
Hunter403
04-08-2022, 04:25 PM
To be honest, aside from Belswans on the park and unsure of their back office or financial position, all of the other Clubs are seriously miles away.
On what basis do you make that comment?
Some of the NL1 clubs have facilities that are worse, as good as or better than those in the NPL and those that New Lambton have.
Some of the NL1 clubs will be in a financial position worse, as good as or better than those in the NPL and New Lambton
Some of the NL1 clubs will have met the governance standards that are applied and some won't. Those that do are equal to those on the NPL.
It seems you are basing your assessment of who is worthy of being in the NPL on results only. Results can be achieved if you throw cash at it. The haves and have nots prove that every week in the NPL. Maybe the other NL1 clubs dont want to throw bucket loads of money at players when there is no guarantee that doing so will get them into NPL.
W8 WATCHER
04-08-2022, 04:38 PM
On what basis do you make that comment?
Some of the NL1 clubs have facilities that are worse, as good as or better than those in the NPL and those that New Lambton have.
Some of the NL1 clubs will be in a financial position worse, as good as or better than those in the NPL and New Lambton
Some of the NL1 clubs will have met the governance standards that are applied and some won't. Those that do are equal to those on the NPL.
It seems you are basing your assessment of who is worthy of being in the NPL on results only. Results can be achieved if you throw cash at it. The haves and have nots prove that every week in the NPL. Maybe the other NL1 clubs dont want to throw bucket loads of money at players when there is no guarantee that doing so will get them into NPL.
sounds like a scommo comment
who has splashed the cash to win.
i know Cooks Hill last year threw plenty, and finished 2nd and still got promoted.
so on that bases, you can finish anywhere and still get promoted.
sapdad
04-08-2022, 04:45 PM
Your unreliable source is definitely unreliable in this instance. All the upgrades that are happening around the park have been done in consultation with ANLAC and other users of the park, and seating will only be in the sides, with the main undercover seating being on the Alder Park Sports Club side.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but are the upgrades to Alder Park including the ground itself or just the outsides?
Hunter403
04-08-2022, 04:53 PM
sounds like a scommo comment
who has splashed the cash to win.
i know Cooks Hill last year threw plenty, and finished 2nd and still got promoted.
so on that bases, you can finish anywhere and still get promoted.
Here we go again.....not reading and just looking for an argument...
Cooks Hill spent and New Lambton spend.
As to the rest....yes, you agree with me, although I guarantee that wasn't your intent. BBScone says the only way to get promoted is to win. I say its not. You agree with me. Well done
matjpacker
04-08-2022, 06:10 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned but are the upgrades to Alder Park including the ground itself or just the outsides?
The main part of the playing surface was redone last summer, that south eastern corner is a lot slower than it used to be now.
Next season we’ve planned to oversew with rye grass, so that should hold up better and longer wear and tear wise.
BBscone
04-08-2022, 08:52 PM
Here we go again.....not reading and just looking for an argument...
Cooks Hill spent and New Lambton spend.
As to the rest....yes, you agree with me, although I guarantee that wasn't your intent. BBScone says the only way to get promoted is to win. I say its not. You agree with me. Well doneTalk about not reading....winning is important of course, any traditionalist will tell you it's important to win the below division if expecting to go up. Off the park my question is why some clubs who have been around for a long time, resplendant with fully fenced grounds and grandstands, have not done the same as two clubs who were the last to the dance and one of them had to build sufficient infrastructure to qualify. Not ready? Probably.
Remains to be seen if NL do it better than Cooks Hill in Year 1. They were both dominant on the park in NL1 in all ages, it seems they were also better off the park. To be honest, aside from Belswans on the park and unsure of their back office or financial position, all of the other Clubs are seriously miles away.
NL will be more competitive than CH in Youth but that's not much to beat. Only have to put a team in 16s and they are miles ahead.
Not saying theyll be top 4 but competitive in most grades
BS detecor
05-08-2022, 05:27 AM
NL will be more competitive than CH in Youth but that's not much to beat. Only have to put a team in 16s and they are miles ahead.
Not saying theyll be top 4 but competitive in most grades
Assuming kids that don’t want to play NPL hang around to play NPL
travellingman
05-08-2022, 07:55 AM
Not sure why teams think they should be consulted for NL's promotion! Consultation around the competition format- yes that's it.
so what your saying is, its up to NL1 teams to give permission for them to be promoted? seriously.:wtf:
as for throwing stones in glass houses, is Toronto in a position to negotiate, when they fail to comply by the rules, and not field teams.
Here's a thought, maybe all the piss taking from some NL1 teams over the last few years, is the reason why NNSWF is piss taking now as well?
The clubs aren't stating they should be consulted on who is promoted or not.
They want to be consulted on what the competition will look like with only 9 teams and what is the future requirements for promotion.
NNSW had a criteria years ago that clubs were relegated from NPL for not meeting, now we have clubs being promoted who don't meet that criteria but will in the coming years.
NNSW should get rid of the criteria and base promotion and relegation on football performance/ability across the club championship table.
That will force clubs to develop their youth and not relying on 1st grade to stay up of get promoted.
BBscone
05-08-2022, 09:43 AM
The clubs aren't stating they should be consulted on who is promoted or not.
They want to be consulted on what the competition will look like with only 9 teams and what is the future requirements for promotion.
NNSW had a criteria years ago that clubs were relegated from NPL for not meeting, now we have clubs being promoted who don't meet that criteria but will in the coming years.
NNSW should get rid of the criteria and base promotion and relegation on football performance/ability across the club championship table.
That will force clubs to develop their youth and not relying on 1st grade to stay up of get promoted.So the two Clubs that have gone up have been the best two Clubs overall for the last five years, yes? ON and OFF the park? The Club Championship probably agrees. The clear message is that just because you lease a facility with a fence and a ramshackle old grandstand, doesn't make you a Premier Club. Those in NPL who have been Fat Dumb and Lazy for too long should finally wake up because CH and NL won't go up comfortable to finish 11 and 12. Those FDL clubs in NL1 bemoaning how poorly they have been treated should ask themselves what can we do to be better. The minute Toronto and Singleton and now Wallsend were allowed to play without filling Youth teams the entire comp was a basket case and both CH and NL were the only ones smart enough and strong enough to climb out of it. I stand by the fact that the two new teams in NL1 were the first to get out after they both dominated it. That's all Northern need to reply with when the rest demand answers.
W8 WATCHER
05-08-2022, 10:07 AM
So the two Clubs that have gone up have been the best two Clubs overall for the last five years, yes? ON and OFF the park? The Club Championship probably agrees. The clear message is that just because you lease a facility with a fence and a ramshackle old grandstand, doesn't make you a Premier Club. Those in NPL who have been Fat Dumb and Lazy for too long should finally wake up because CH and NL won't go up comfortable to finish 11 and 12. Those FDL clubs in NL1 bemoaning how poorly they have been treated should ask themselves what can we do to be better. The minute Toronto and Singleton and now Wallsend were allowed to play without filling Youth teams the entire comp was a basket case and both CH and NL were the only ones smart enough and strong enough to climb out of it. I stand by the fact that the two new teams in NL1 were the first to get out after they both dominated it. That's all Northern need to reply with when the rest demand answers.
100% agree BBS
not sure what they are blowing up about.
all competitions around the world get promoted and relegated based on performance.
i yet have seen anywhere , that grounds, and fencing was the key performance indicator for promotion.
**** on a side note so does that mean the Jets should get relegated, based on there shiiite performances over and over again, News Flash- there is better financially run NPL clubs nationally, that also have there own grounds.
everyone on the forum, has been commenting on 2 x 8 team comps, so NL1 has 9 we are nearly there, what's the problem? or just communicate to all ZPL teams, here's your chance if you want to push for promotion in future, to step up, and increase the teams in NL1 for 2023.
if they don't, they can stay there forever.
W8 WATCHER
05-08-2022, 10:13 AM
not here for an argument with anyone,
just my opinion on football in Newcastle, like it, hate it or don't agree with it- dont care really
to say winning isn't the key factor for promotion, is a laugh, you supporting the jets, would explain on your stance of continually losing to be acceptable.
again yes you agree with me, i guarantee it is your intent.
matmoncrieff
05-08-2022, 11:09 AM
So the two Clubs that have gone up have been the best two Clubs overall for the last five years, yes? ON and OFF the park? The Club Championship probably agrees. The clear message is that just because you lease a facility with a fence and a ramshackle old grandstand, doesn't make you a Premier Club. Those in NPL who have been Fat Dumb and Lazy for too long should finally wake up because CH and NL won't go up comfortable to finish 11 and 12. Those FDL clubs in NL1 bemoaning how poorly they have been treated should ask themselves what can we do to be better. The minute Toronto and Singleton and now Wallsend were allowed to play without filling Youth teams the entire comp was a basket case and both CH and NL were the only ones smart enough and strong enough to climb out of it. I stand by the fact that the two new teams in NL1 were the first to get out after they both dominated it. That's all Northern need to reply with when the rest demand answers.
No-one I have spoken to is begrudging NL going up, its actually brilliant that they have as it was when Cooks Hill got promoted. If a club dominates in a 2nd Division competition they deserve to be promoted that's how all the best leagues in the world work. If clubs like Cooks Hill and New Lambton can't get promoted with all their on field success and strong back of house and hard work over many years then there would be absolutely no hope for any of the remaining NL1 clubs to be promoted. I believe it was 3 years ago NNSW come up with a plan to get to 12 teams which they now have reached. There are clubs such as the one I am at and there are others that are progressing in the back ground to tick all the boxes as Cooks Hill and New Lambton have. At some clubs for varying reason it takes a lot longer to get things done to their grounds etc to meet the requirements of NPL as CH and NL have done.
So now we and some other clubs are now asking what's the next plan, surely in the past 3 years you have worked out a plan of what will happen when you reach 12 teams. Is there any further opportunities to be promoted? Are the teams that are perennially non-competitive in NPL ever going to be relegated? Do clubs such as ours keeping working towards reaching all the standards required of an NPL club continue with their plans and if so how long for?
The only information we as NL1 clubs know is what we read in NNSW press release that said we will be a 9 team comp next year. 9 teams just doesn't work, 18 rounds with 2 byes or 27 rounds with 3 byes if you want to have a fair competition . One is not enough games for a premier competition in my opinion and the other just makes the season way too long.
I have been trying to get time with Peter Haynes for a long time and the bloke just brushes you, if your not an NPL club he doesn't give you the time of day. So how do we plan for next season? Are we really going to tell all our senior players that fees are going to be the same next year but you are only playing 16 games and it doesn't matter if we dominate the comp or don't win a game nothing will change.
Some may class this as whinging, but I see them as reasonable questions and expectations from someone who has been in and around this competition for many years and also have a passion for Newcastle Football to be the best it can be. I like many believe NNSW are killing Senior Football in Newcastle by not having promotion and relegation which is contributing to the ridiculous amounts of money being paid to players. They are doing some good work in the youth area with the introduction of JDL and hopefully de-coupling but its all a waste of time if you don't have a competitive senior league where teams not competing can't get relegated and if you don't pay 'overs' for players you can't compete and i'm hearing NPLW is going along the same lines.
ForeverRed
05-08-2022, 11:47 AM
You’ve only got to look at what they’ve done with the grand finals to realise northern are way out of touch with masses
Goatscheese
05-08-2022, 11:57 AM
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all competitions around the world get promoted and relegated based on performance.
i yet have seen anywhere , that grounds, and fencing was the key performance indicator for promotion.
Except this doesn't happen
And Northern did give all NL1 clubs criteria on grounds and fencing amongst other things for them to meet, this is despite some current NPL clubs not currently meeting all those requirements.
I'm not surprised West Wallsend are upset or Belswans. And unless North Lambton no longer have to share the ground with Athletics or they (or Northern) have got an alternative ground to use during summer then it appears Northern are happy to ignore their criteria. Which isn't a surprise considering Warners Bay got to keep their WPL team and Northern didn't want to wait any longer before changing it to WNPL
Goatscheese
05-08-2022, 12:01 PM
Are we really going to tell all our senior players that fees are going to be the same next year but you are only playing 16 games and it doesn't matter if we dominate the comp or don't win a game nothing will change.
I would say will Northern drop their fees if the comp is no longer as long but that's a laughable idea.
Shame about Peter ignoring NL1 clubs
ForeverRed
05-08-2022, 12:12 PM
Sounds like Pete’s forgetting where his bread was buttered
W8 WATCHER
05-08-2022, 12:26 PM
Except this doesn't happen
And Northern did give all NL1 clubs criteria on grounds and fencing amongst other things for them to meet, this is despite some current NPL clubs not currently meeting all those requirements.
I'm not surprised West Wallsend are upset or Belswans. And unless North Lambton no longer have to share the ground with Athletics or they (or Northern) have got an alternative ground to use during summer then it appears Northern are happy to ignore their criteria. Which isn't a surprise considering Warners Bay got to keep their WPL team and Northern didn't want to wait any longer before changing it to WNPL
can we create a ground keeper willy thread
again, fields and fences- i thought we played football?
yes i did understand and read your post, before Hunter unleashes.
NNSWF may have put in place, criteria, as a grand plan, for all clubs to work to and achieve, some have and others havent given a sht.
but remember the council owns the grounds, so unless you win grants, have the money - no grounds will improve.
as to Matts post, surely there would be 2-3 teams in ZPL with aspirations to play up, the top 3 would still probably do a job on half of NL1 anyway.
Goatscheese
05-08-2022, 01:04 PM
NNSWF may have put in place, criteria, as a grand plan, for all clubs to work to and achieve, some have and others havent given a sht.
but remember the council owns the grounds, so unless you win grants, have the money - no grounds will improve.
And get council approval, but at the end of 2019 when Northern said no NL1 clubs will be promoted they gave reasons to each club a lot of it was about what clubs had at their ground. And it isn't just money to make the changes (changes which current NPL clubs don't meet), you need council approval and Northern told clubs they need year round access, which some clubs don't and will never have as they are council grounds who force them to share with other sports. The club I was do have year round access I know others were knocked back with that being one of the reasons
Full disclosure I was on one of the committees and part of the working group to get together the documentation for promotion of one of the 4 clubs mentioned in the article. I have since left the club but to say they don't give a shit or haven't worked towards improving and meeting the criteria that current NPL teams don't have to meet is a load of crap. As Matt says, what is the point if Northern say they hit the 12 teams and say that's it and even if a team like Lake Macquarie or Adamstown battle for the wooden spoon every year but stay in the top competition regardless what is the point?
Aegon
05-08-2022, 01:57 PM
With the announcement today of youth decoupling, is there a realistic chance of a league with a combination of NL1/ZPL teams? Or will NL1 clubs choose to drop to ZPL regardless?
What are the rules about joining ZPL? Would clubs need to start in ZL3?
Jardelsimage
05-08-2022, 02:07 PM
With the announcement today of youth decoupling, is there a realistic chance of a league with a combination of NL1/ZPL teams? Or will NL1 clubs choose to drop to ZPL regardless?
What are the rules about joining ZPL? Would clubs need to start in ZL3?
they would have to apply, the same as we all do, you could then throw the balls in the air to see what happens next...
Hunter403
05-08-2022, 05:30 PM
With the announcement today of youth decoupling, is there a realistic chance of a league with a combination of NL1/ZPL teams? Or will NL1 clubs choose to drop to ZPL regardless?
What are the rules about joining ZPL? Would clubs need to start in ZL3?
I wonder.....If ZPL teams want to go up, will they have to have 13-18s?
The Hacker
05-08-2022, 05:38 PM
I wonder.....If ZPL teams want to go up, will they have to have 13-18s?
If they do zero teams will go up
W8 WATCHER
05-08-2022, 05:46 PM
If they do zero teams will go up
interested to know why not?
there is obviously a key reason, as to why they wouldn't want to push up a tier, 3-5 teams are well and truly good enough to be there
mge61
05-08-2022, 06:03 PM
interested to know why not?
there is obviously a key reason, as to why they wouldn't want to push up a tier, 3-5 teams are well and truly good enough to be there
Couple of possible reasons. I think a lot of the ZPL guys that have already dropped back from higher grades genuinely enjoy playing with mates and they don’t necessarily have to commit to full on training. Also from what I’ve observed at some clubs, including NPL, there is a definite drop off in people volunteering at clubs. Just my observations.
The Hacker
05-08-2022, 06:41 PM
interested to know why not?
there is obviously a key reason, as to why they wouldn't want to push up a tier, 3-5 teams are well and truly good enough to be there
The teams are good enough easily but a lot aren’ affiliated with a junior club and the strong ones are in that boat
W8 WATCHER
05-08-2022, 08:17 PM
The teams are good enough easily but a lot aren’ affiliated with a junior club and the strong ones are in that boat
Do they need to be affiliated?
Do you need junior teams moving forward, can it be still the 3 grades, in NL1
samcan
05-08-2022, 08:59 PM
Do they need to be affiliated?
Do you need junior teams moving forward, can it be still the 3 grades, in NL1
Tronno assume so
Villians
05-08-2022, 11:33 PM
Why would they go up to play in an arguably worse league, pay double in fees and be treated by northern as the ugly sister? So they can have a northern logo on their jersey...
Jardelsimage
06-08-2022, 07:22 AM
interested to know why not?
there is obviously a key reason, as to why they wouldn't want to push up a tier, 3-5 teams are well and truly good enough to be there
Not to sure who you are affilated with or how old you are but here is my take on it.
ZPL is a better comp.
There would be a few who would want to go up, and i could probably name them also, not sure why they would like to do it, but hey go for it if you want to be treated like shit.
Most like myself have been there before, either playing, coaching or on a committee.
The second tier is a joke, it has been for a long time, spend a shit load of cash, win stuff all in return and get treated by the powers that be as a little cash cow to prop up whatever and now its a 9 team comp, ?????
Why keep doing this year after year, waiting for Northern to hang the carrot out, one day you will catch it, for what though?
There are some great clubs in the 2nd tier, lots of heritage etc who have been in there for a very long time, I'm not sure what keeps them going?
NNSWFA had control of all the senior sides from 1st to 5th divisions back in the day, promotion and relegation all through it, worked well until they didn't want to do the work looking after all those teams.
They then dumped all bar the 1st and 2nd divisions.
Northern once again are reshaping the comps, why? because they keep making mistakes, year after year, cluster fuk after cluster fuk.
Is NPL and the 2nd tier both going to 1st and reserve's only next year when they de-couple the youth??
travellingman
06-08-2022, 11:25 AM
I wonder.....If ZPL teams want to go up, will they have to have 13-18s?
My understanding of the criteria is if ZPL teams were to go up they would have to have 13-18"s
So the question is where do they get the kids from? We already know there are not enough quality in the current Youth NPL/NL1 teams
As an example if Cardiff chose to go up, there are not enough kids in the area to accommodate those squads especially with Sth Cardiff already having squads just up the hill.
It will be interesting to see who nominates if any for NL1
BBscone
06-08-2022, 01:05 PM
And get council approval, but at the end of 2019 when Northern said no NL1 clubs will be promoted they gave reasons to each club a lot of it was about what clubs had at their ground. And it isn't just money to make the changes (changes which current NPL clubs don't meet), you need council approval and Northern told clubs they need year round access, which some clubs don't and will never have as they are council grounds who force them to share with other sports. The club I was do have year round access I know others were knocked back with that being one of the reasons
Full disclosure I was on one of the committees and part of the working group to get together the documentation for promotion of one of the 4 clubs mentioned in the article. I have since left the club but to say they don't give a shit or haven't worked towards improving and meeting the criteria that current NPL teams don't have to meet is a load of crap. As Matt says, what is the point if Northern say they hit the 12 teams and say that's it and even if a team like Lake Macquarie or Adamstown battle for the wooden spoon every year but stay in the top competition regardless what is the point?I hope the remaining NL1 Clubs get the answers that they need to properly plan to ensure those above are pressured to perform. Decoupling Youth will shake up a few, you can clearly see the strategy in it toward creating a survival of the fittest environment from the bottom up.
terry
07-08-2022, 07:14 PM
My understanding of the criteria is if ZPL teams were to go up they would have to have 13-18"s
So the question is where do they get the kids from? We already know there are not enough quality in the current Youth NPL/NL1 teams
As an example if Cardiff chose to go up, there are not enough kids in the area to accommodate those squads especially with Sth Cardiff already having squads just up the hill.
Cardiff are going nowhere. Very happy with their lot. Cardiff had a strong junior setup in years past. They were in SYL for a while. Days are gorrrn
Jardelsimage
07-08-2022, 07:53 PM
Cardiff are going nowhere. Very happy with their lot. Cardiff had a strong junior setup in years past. They were in SYL for a while. Days are gorrrn
he was only using Cardiff as an example, very quick to pounce aren't we Terry, travellingman is correct there are not enough kids in this area or any area.
now they have decoupled the youth from NPL and NPL1 it makes it even worse.
1st and reggies only 2023 or are there plans for a 3rd grade?
yes we are happy, our own ground, make our own rules.
The system not clubs is stuffed, ...cardiff as a junior club were the strongest in town for quite a few years but once again the system changed for the worst.
The Hacker
08-08-2022, 11:58 AM
he was only using Cardiff as an example, very quick to pounce aren't we Terry, travellingman is correct there are not enough kids in this area or any area.
now they have decoupled the youth from NPL and NPL1 it makes it even worse.
1st and reggies only 2023 or are there plans for a 3rd grade?
yes we are happy, our own ground, make our own rules.
The system not clubs is stuffed, ...cardiff as a junior club were the strongest in town for quite a few years but once again the system changed for the worst.
If juniors aren’t needed it would be good if it was 3 grades then you may get some interested in coming up
Alton
08-08-2022, 01:47 PM
If juniors aren’t needed it would be good if it was 3 grades then you may get some interested in coming up
Cardiff would be welcome up here with us in the second tier, well run club,good home base,a local derby with their neighbours.
W8 WATCHER
08-08-2022, 03:46 PM
All those hypothetical victories over Magic and Edgy in preseason seems to have worn them out.
those hypothetical victories must have been a key factor for there 3rd year of success.lol
W8 WATCHER
08-08-2022, 03:48 PM
maybe not invincible, but 3 in a row
good on them, they are a great team
BBscone
08-08-2022, 08:37 PM
those hypothetical victories must have been a key factor for there 3rd year of success.lolMost SAPDads have a tendency to crow a little early about things they struggle to comprehend. Is that it now? 3? I thought it was mathematically possible for Belswans? Low key recognition from Northern and Club? Maybe just waiting....? Fair achievement after joining in 2017. At least they go up with justification. Aside from a fence of course 😑
Eastwest
09-08-2022, 02:51 PM
Can always do what Valo initially did to get into 1sts. Amalgamate/take over another club in danger of dropping.
sapdad
09-08-2022, 03:20 PM
those hypothetical victories must have been a key factor for there 3rd year of success.lol
Not sure where you thought that comment was directed but to be clear it was at the chest beating parents not the players who have actually achieved what they set out to do.
Hunter403
11-08-2022, 11:07 AM
Perry Melon to coach Southy next year according to the club post on Facebook. Good to see a new face coaching first grade.
Goatscheese
11-08-2022, 11:47 AM
Perry Melon to coach Southy next year according to the club post on Facebook. Good to see a new face coachong first grade.
Better than seeing the same tired old faces going from club to club.
BBscone
11-08-2022, 08:09 PM
Better than seeing the same tired old faces going from club to club.100%. Young Coach, better than the same old names.
GO AWAY
13-08-2022, 04:23 PM
So now West Wallsend cop another washout, how are they going to fit three games in before next Sunday ?
The Hacker
13-08-2022, 05:05 PM
So now West Wallsend cop another washout, how are they going to fit three games in before next Sunday ?
In ZPL Azzurri have 6 games before the following Sunday. Instead of training they will be playing
terry
13-08-2022, 06:13 PM
In ZPL Azzurri have 6 games before the following Sunday. Instead of training they will be playing
Playing >>>>>>training
BBscone
14-08-2022, 07:11 PM
Kahibah and NL 2-2. Didn't see it but Kahibah down to 10 for most? Kahibah must be satisfied with that one. Socials looks like NL rested a couple. Top 3 settled. 3 best teams.
BBscone
21-08-2022, 09:24 PM
Cessnock 0- NL 2. Big crowd. Cessnock forfeited 18s and apparently 16s Saturday.
Undertaker
21-08-2022, 09:50 PM
Toronto 1-1 Thornton
Westy 4-2 Southy
Belswans 0-0 Singo *Game abandoned with 29mins to go*
Wish Matty Ellis from Belswans a quick recovery with his broken leg.
Now what do Northern do here? Westy vs Singo on Wednesday night do they make the tough call and call todays game a 0-0 draw or play the game Thursday somehow? That game impacts Toronto, Singo and Westy to see who takes 4th and 5th
Hunter403
22-08-2022, 08:29 AM
Toronto 1-1 Thornton
Westy 4-2 Southy
Belswans 0-0 Singo *Game abandoned with 29mins to go*
Wish Matty Ellis from Belswans a quick recovery with his broken leg.
Now what do Northern do here? Westy vs Singo on Wednesday night do they make the tough call and call todays game a 0-0 draw or play the game Thursday somehow? That game impacts Toronto, Singo and Westy to see who takes 4th and 5th
29 minutes to go....they will probably call it a draw. Well into the second half.
Hope the bloke is ok
Goatscheese
22-08-2022, 09:50 AM
Cessnock 0- NL 2. Big crowd. Cessnock forfeited 18s and apparently 16s Saturday.
Cessnock in trouble if they can't even field 18s
Also saw South Cardiff promote a 14yo playing first grade yesterday. Don't you have to be 15 to be able to play senior football?
travellingman
22-08-2022, 11:49 AM
Cessnock in trouble if they can't even field 18s
Also saw South Cardiff promote a 14yo playing first grade yesterday. Don't you have to be 15 to be able to play senior football?
I could be wrong but my interpretation is 15 is only for NPL
FootballFiend4957
22-08-2022, 02:06 PM
Cessnock in trouble if they can't even field 18s
Also saw South Cardiff promote a 14yo playing first grade yesterday. Don't you have to be 15 to be able to play senior football?
As long as you turn 15 in the calendar year
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