20/21 AL MD4 |Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar| Wed 20/01/21

[Jeterpool]

A-League 2020/21 Match day 4 Newcastle Jets v Brisbane Roar

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 45 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 45 occasions in the A-League and on 0 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 19, Roar Wins - 15, Drawn - 11


In Newcastle – 24 matches.
Jets Wins - 6, Roar Wins - 10, Drawn - 8
In Brisbane - 21 matches
Jets Wins - 13, Roar Wins - 5, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 9563
Average Away A-League Crowd - 10506

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 59, Roar - 53
In Newcastle -
Jets – 27, Roar - 37

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 27, Roar - 16

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 98 (90 yellow, 8 red), Roar 68 (64 yellow, 4 red)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 0 - Brisbane Roar 1 (McDonald 16') at CBUS Stadium, A-League, Round 27, Season 2019/20

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2019/20 Match day 27

Newcastle JetsBrisbane Roar
Lewis ItalianoJamie Young
John KoutroumbisMacauly Gillesphey
Nigel BoogaardTom Aldred
Nikolai Topor-StanleyScott Neville
Matthew MillarJack Hingert
Bobby BurnsCorey Brown
Angus ThurgateJay O'Shea
Steven UgarkovicAiden O'Neill
Dimitri PetratosBradden Inman
Wes HoolahanScott McDonald
Roy O'DonovanMirza Muratovic
Jason HoffmanAaron Amadi-Holloway
Joe LedleyDylan Wenzel-Halls



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 6 (Champness 23', O'Donovan 27', O'Donovan 55', Petratos 65', Champness 68', Appiah-Kubi 90+2') – Roar 1 (Duncan 49') at Suncorp Stadium, Round 26, Season 2018/19, 20/04/2019

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Roar 5 (Reinaldo 10’, Richter 44’, Brosque 52’, McKay 83’, Murdocca 90+1’), Round 20, Season 2005/06 at Energy Australia Stadium, 26/01/2006.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (8)
Roar - Reinaldo (7)



2020/21 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Lewis Italiano000000000
2John Koutroumbis1100900000
3Jason Hoffman2202710000
4Nigel Boogaard22001801010
5Ben Kantarovski000000000
6Steven Ugarkovic33002700010
9Roy O'Donovan33022400020
11Ramy Najjarine33002700100
13Maki Petratos3030250000
14Ali Abbas2020350010
15Tete Yengi3030630000
16Matthew Millar000000000
17Valentino Yuel33022341000
18Jack Armson000000000
19Kosta Petratos22021300010
22Lachlan Jackson21101080000
23Jack Duncan33002700000
24Connor O'Toole33012620010
25Jack Simmons000000000
26Archie Goodwin000000000
27Lucas Mauragis31211810010
28Blake Archbold1010170000
32Angus Thurgate33022540010
44Nikolai Topor-Stanley33002700000



COACHING
Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Mark Jones - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 defeat = 66% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (0 wins, 2 drawn, 1 defeat = 0% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 3 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Clayton Zane - 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 defeat = 100% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond - 17 matches (9 wins, 3 drawn and 5 defeats = 53% win ratio)
Craig Deans - No matches
Branko Culina - 6 matches (1 wins, 4 drawn, 1 defeats = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 defeat = 0% win ratio)
Richard Money - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 defeats = 33% win ratio)

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[Jeterpool]

The match will be the 400th A-League match for the club. Here's a few stats on our previous 399 A-League fixtures

In the preceding 399, the W-D-L record is 133-92-174.

We have scored first on 176 occasions, while gone behind first on 199.

We've managed to gain 86 points from a losing position, while dropping 145 points while ahead.

Our Half Time/Full Time record is:

Ahead & Win - 82
Ahead then draw - 21
Ahead then lose - 8

Draw then win - 42
Draw remains - 56
Draw then lose - 59

Behind then win - 8
Behind then draw - 17
Behind and lose - 106


From Liam Reddy to Blake Archbold, we've had 185 players pull on the shirt.

The average number of appearances a player has for the club is 29.

Ben Kantarovski sits atop at 196, while Labi has most appearances as substitute (45) and time substituted (44)

And from Ned Zelic to Boogs we have had 24 different players wear the Captains armband.

We've also had players from 23 different countries represent our club in the League.

From Ante Milicic to Valention Yuel, the Jets have scored 493 goals and conceded 599, keeping 90 clean sheets.
The 493 goals have been scored by 92 different players.

21 times we've put the ball in the back of our own net and our opposition 16 times by comparison

We've been awarded 47 penalties, converting 40 of them.

Nick Carle scored our first, Dimi Petratos our last.

We've had 73 awarded against us, with the opposition failing to convert on 13 occasions.

Our fastest goal was scored by Morten Nordstrand (28 seconds).

11 players have scored on their debut.

5 players have scored a hat-trick.

We have scored 213 first half goals, 278 2nd half goals and 2 goals in extra time.

We've been booked 791 times and had 43 players dismissed (23 for a second booking and 20 straight reds).

Our opposition have been booked 617 times and 37 players dismissed.

We've faced 919 different opposition players, with 88 of them having lined up for the Jets at some point in their careers. Vukavic still tops the list with 37 appearances against the Jets.

From Richard Money to Craig Deans, we have had 11 different managers. GvE has managed the most fixtures (144). Carl Robinson has the highest win % (60%).

We have also had 64 different coaches in the opposition dugout. This will rise to 65 with this weekend's match.

Finally, from Peter O'Leary to Ben Abraham we have had 41 different referees officiate our matches.

They awarded approximately 4500 fouls for the Jets, 5000 for our opposition and adjudicating almost 1700 offside during this time.

[Hunter403]

Unless the puddle pulls on his boots, we're going to struggle

[belchardo]

The match will be the 400th A-League match for the club. Here's a few stats on our previous 399 A-League fixtures

In the preceding 399, the W-D-L record is 133-92-174.

We have scored first on 176 occasions, while gone behind first on 199.

We've managed to gain 86 points from a losing position, while dropping 145 points while ahead.

Our Half Time/Full Time record is:

Ahead & Win - 82
Ahead then draw - 21
Ahead then lose - 8

Draw then win - 42
Draw remains - 56
Draw then lose - 59

Behind then win - 8
Behind then draw - 17
Behind and lose - 106


From Liam Reddy to Blake Archbold, we've had 185 players pull on the shirt.

The average number of appearances a player has for the club is 29.

Ben Kantarovski sits atop at 196, while Labi has most appearances as substitute (45) and time substituted (44)

And from Ned Zelic to Boogs we have had 24 different players wear the Captains armband.

We've also had players from 23 different countries represent our club in the League.

From Ante Milicic to Valention Yuel, the Jets have scored 493 goals and conceded 599, keeping 90 clean sheets.
The 493 goals have been scored by 92 different players.

21 times we've put the ball in the back of our own net and our opposition 16 times by comparison

We've been awarded 47 penalties, converting 40 of them.

Nick Carle scored our first, Dimi Petratos our last.

We've had 73 awarded against us, with the opposition failing to convert on 13 occasions.

Our fastest goal was scored by Morten Nordstrand (28 seconds).

11 players have scored on their debut.

5 players have scored a hat-trick.

We have scored 213 first half goals, 278 2nd half goals and 2 goals in extra time.

We've been booked 791 times and had 43 players dismissed (23 for a second booking and 20 straight reds).

Our opposition have been booked 617 times and 37 players dismissed.

We've faced 919 different opposition players, with 88 of them having lined up for the Jets at some point in their careers. Vukavic still tops the list with 37 appearances against the Jets.

From Richard Money to Craig Deans, we have had 11 different managers. GvE has managed the most fixtures (144). Carl Robinson has the highest win % (60%).

We have also had 64 different coaches in the opposition dugout. This will rise to 65 with this weekend's match.

Finally, from Peter O'Leary to Ben Abraham we have had 41 different referees officiate our matches.

They awarded approximately 4500 fouls for the Jets, 5000 for our opposition and adjudicating almost 1700 offside during this time.

Good stuff JP.

[StannyCFCJET]

We've been building to attacking destruction. Hopefully its this week against the roar

[Jeterpool]

Good stuff JP.

Thanks mate :)

[StannyCFCJET]

Duncan again :/ Drop the underperformers Deansy

[redwah]

Duncan again :/ Drop the underperformers Deansy

Has he made a save that hasn’t come straight at him?

[StannyCFCJET]

I don't blame him for the goal but can't remember any. Seems to not like to dive either

[belchardo]

Nice goal by yuel. Even better nose flick before the restart on wenzell-halls.

[The Hacker]

Has he made a save that hasn’t come straight at him?

Surely Italiano could do better. He looked good the back end of the year last year

[belchardo]

Danzaki should be embarrassed celebrating that goal. Commentators made it sound like it was the goal of the year.

[Jeterpool]

Have we had enough of O'Donovan yet?

He's only troubling the yellow card count

[Jeterpool]

How's our tactics...hoof it down the channels, try get a corner, whip it in

[Bremsstrahlung]

Danzaki should be embarrassed celebrating that goal. Commentators made it sound like it was the goal of the year.

I thought the same thing.
Also thought the same thing with the Puskas winning bicycle last game.

But you know, every game of rugby league I watch (forgive me) those commentators make it seem like there’s never been a bigger hit or better try. And people believe them.
As a league, I imagine we are trying to excite the neutral and if it’s gonna help the game. Go for it.
But as a fan, hearing some descriptions of opponents goals makes me cringe.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Have we had enough of O'Donovan yet?

He's only troubling the yellow card count

Boogs: Hold my beer

[belchardo]

Have we had enough of O'Donovan yet?

He's only troubling the yellow card count

I have. He isn't the future and he isn't offering a lot right now. I'm all for starting him from the bench and bringing him in as a sub

[Bremsstrahlung]

Lololololol, “handball after a defender has controlled the ball, is a foul everywhere on the field, except in the penalty area” (quoting fox not outsider FYI).
How silly.
That’s like saying hacking a player from behind is a foul everywhere, except in the box.


also makes me chuckle that Andy Harper wants like 10 minutes extra time every game.

[belchardo]

As a league, I imagine we are trying to excite the neutral and if it’s gonna help the game. Go for it.
But as a fan, hearing some descriptions of opponents goals makes me cringe.

Great point. I'm with you on both parts.

[The Dunster]

Please fold the club.
There's no point wasting time and resources on this shitfest.

[Jeterpool]

This can go one of two ways.

GvE season 2 or Stubbins season 10

[belchardo]

Lololololol, “handball after a defender has controlled the ball, is a foul everywhere on the field, except in the penalty area” (quoting fox not outsider FYI).
How silly.
That’s like saying hacking a player from behind is a foul everywhere, except in the box.


also makes me chuckle that Andy Harper wants like 10 minutes extra time every game.

I'm with Harper. We are becoming like rugby. 50 minutes of football played in 90 minutes.

I would love to see a subs clock. As soon as the number is flashed up the named player has 15 seconds to get off the field. If they aren't off, the game restarts and the named player can't touch the ball and the substitute can't come on until they are off. There would be a lot of miraculous curing of cramps and a lot less hugging the opposition on the way off.

[Bremsstrahlung]

You know, I don’t think we are THAT much worse than the teams we are playing.

[Bremsstrahlung]

I'm with Harper. We are becoming like rugby. 50 minutes of football played in 90 minutes.

I would love to see a subs clock. As soon as the number is flashed up the named player has 15 seconds to get off the field. If they aren't off, the game restarts and the named player can't touch the ball and the substitute can't come on until they are off. There would be a lot of miraculous curing of cramps and a lot less hugging the opposition on the way off.


Good example of time wasting is when old mate went down with a head injury.
He was a metre away from the goal line. Take him off there. Why walk him 50 metres to the sideline....
ref should be enforcing that. Also what happened to subs being made to exit the field at the nearest sideline?

Goal kick timers would also be interesting. Add in the 6 seconds. Is that even a rule anymore?
When I reffed I tried to always count out a keepers goal kicks early in the game. If they took say 20 seconds from ball in hands to actually kicking, and then with 5 to go they take 45 seconds, I had a pretty solid reason. Likewise if a player complained, I could offer “he took 20 seconds in the first minute and nobody complained, and 20 seconds here”.

[Guerny]

1st half: actually making some chances from through balls!
2nd half:
Brisbane change to a back three.
Deans doesn't notice???
Through balls stop working... I would imagine we actually need a target man, if all we're going to do is ping crosses in from this point...

[Jeterpool]

You know, I don’t think we are THAT much worse than the teams we are playing.
Except we let in more goals than we score

[Thomas477]

Deans has no plan B.

Every kick off, load one side of the pitch, play it back to, typically, Topor who hoofs it long and we lose it.

Brisbane go to 1 forward up front, we keep 3 centre backs to mark him.

If deans gets the gig, he needs to be brave and make decisions on the fly and adapt, otherwise it’s Stubbins 2.0.

[Frodo]

Please fold the club.
There's no point wasting time and resources on this shitfest.

Honestly, I'm totally fine with losing every game this year so long as we stay afloat until after the gypos fold. That's all I care about. Once they fold i'm quite happy to wait until a second division so we can start again, get away from that terrible stadium and build a proper football club again. BUT I do not want to give those filthy caravan lovers the joy of outlasting us.

[Frodo]

Deans has no plan B.

Every kick off, load one side of the pitch, play it back to, typically, Topor who hoofs it long and we lose it.

Brisbane go to 1 forward up front, we keep 3 centre backs to mark him.

If deans gets the gig, he needs to be brave and make decisions on the fly and adapt, otherwise it’s Stubbins 2.0.

Deans doesn't want the gig, he already said so. So we can't complain about what he is doing, especially given this is the weakest squad we've ever witnessed as a club, in my opinion.

[Guerny]

Deans = best gig ever, gets to be head coach, no one expects him to win a game!

FFS... can Dimi organise another payday for his brothers again too please? at least if we had some local kids in, it would be development.

[Aegon]

It wasn’t that bad a game to watch. Roy missed one gilt edged chance and DWH made the most of a half chance.
I’m disappointed in the result but for anyone calling for the club to fold you can stop watching anytime and take your negativity elsewhere.

We’re probably playing the wrong style of attacking approaches for the striker we have and have had some unlucky deflections. I think Andy Harper called it well tonight when he said that Boogs needed to go forward as the target man.

[lquiquer]

We loosing since MFKS has been banned... Bring back the Member....

[Guerny]

jeez, didn't realise being negative gets you cancelled now too!
Can i still drink?
:beer:

[Frodo]

We loosing since MFKS has been banned... Bring back the Member....

We all know it's true. Make it happen.

[380]

The only thing missing is the brass band.

[380]

Please fold the club.
There's no point wasting time and resources on this shitfest.

If shit don't get better and we can't attract a consistent crowd of over 5k i can see a Wolves or Canberra.

[StannyCFCJET]

Deans doesn't want the gig, he already said so. So we can't complain about what he is doing, especially given this is the weakest squad we've ever witnessed as a club, in my opinion.

Actually he's said he would like it but doesn't want to put too much pressure on so never talks about it

[Hunter403]

Sack Dean's for not picking the puddle in his starting 11

[mic22]

You know, I don’t think we are THAT much worse than the teams we are playing.

I'm with you.
Quality is kinda low, in general.
No one has clearly outplayed us so far, we're nowhere near the Stubbins garbage. We play some decent football and create lots of chances (Rooooy!).
Maybe, just maybe, if we stopped conceding within the first 10 minutes, that would be a great step forward.
I know that's an excuse, but we've had some bad luck too (deflections etc).

Remember, there's no relegation :lol:

[Ghost of Plague]

Hey guys do you remember when that cool dude scored an equaliser off his shoulder then was a complete wanker to the opposition player by smacking him in the face then the other guy scored the winner?

Yeah me too.

Half you lot on here always crapping on about 'playing for the shirt', well explain to me how doing crap like that is any good for the 'shirt'?

Also, Mr Pool back there saying this could be GVE season 2. The only sticking point is back then we had talent across the park. That ain't what im seeing out there. Our ceiling right now is Stubbins.

[boz-monaut]

did anyone have a multi on three 2 - 1 losses on a row?

[Guerny]

... Our ceiling right now is Stubbins.

:wub: only 20 days in, "post of the year" too early to call?

[Jeterpool]

Anyone get a crowd figure from last night?

[belchardo]

Anyone get a crowd figure from last night?

A-league sites says 3700

[Jeterpool]

A-league sites says 3700

Ta

[Mark325]

It's getting quite tiring conceeding in the first 10 mins and then either outplaying or staying level with the other team for the next 80 minutes.

At this point a change needs to happen and it should be a drastic one, 4 games and Duncan hasn't managed a clean sheet and Roy hasn't managed a goal. I'm not overly sure what that change should be, whether it's just swapping those players out or an entire formation and play style change but it needs to happen. Unfortunately, this team regardless of how much you change it also just feels destined to be competitive but rarely come out on top due to a lack of overall quality.

[380]

It's getting quite tiring conceeding in the first 10 mins and then either outplaying or staying level with the other team for the next 80 minutes.

At this point a change needs to happen and it should be a drastic one, 4 games and Duncan hasn't managed a clean sheet and Roy hasn't managed a goal. I'm not overly sure what that change should be, whether it's just swapping those players out or an entire formation and play style change but it needs to happen. Unfortunately, this team regardless of how much you change it also just feels destined to be competitive but rarely come out on top due to a lack of overall quality.

Agreed and what is somewhat hard to understand is the different messaging we are getting from those at the club. Lawrie and Mattiske made comments at the ground v Wankerers game regarding additional signings yet listening to Deans comments in his post match presser v Roar he was not aware anything of the sort was happening.

Sadly Mark that mixed messaging from the club means the o/all quality issues are likely to be a season long thing.

[Frodo]

Agreed and what is somewhat hard to understand is the different messaging we are getting from those at the club. Lawrie and Mattiske made comments at the ground v Wankerers game regarding additional signings yet listening to Deans comments in his post match presser v Roar he was not aware anything of the sort was happening.

Sadly Mark that mixed messaging from the club means the o/all quality issues are likely to be a season long thing.

Your mistake there was even entertaining the idea that Lawrie could say the truth.

We are only going to be looking at kids trying to get game time and some flops who can't get a gig elsewhere if they present themselves to the club. Lawrie isn't doing anything that is going to help the club at this point, he's just trying to ensure he gets paid for as long as possible. Hence why he has been turning away clubs who won't offer to retain his services after their takeovers. If the FFA are real about finding a buyer they'll kick that leach McKinna to the curb and let him run back down the coast where he belongs.