Test Cricket aka real cricket

[The Dunster]

Good start to the days play so far!

holy crap - saved - unless they can get a big partnership together - and new ball to arrive in next ten overs or so.

[MFKS]

Didn’t Oz enforce the follow on against India (?) one day and they scored like 900 then rolled the Aussies for 20 or something?

Fabulous.


So not following on was an incorrect decision but what can ya do. Its happened before and will again. Aus still should sneak it but eng will get lucky with 166 edges through slips

Sneaked the game by 120 runs so the decision was not wrong

Reality was despite the position England got in to 140 years if history suggests you ain't chasing down that type of score in the 4th innings

Best part about it is the Poms got some good cricket out of them that at least won't punish us when the game is on the line

1 more win in Perth to make it 3-0 and then just go through the motions for 5-0 as they capitulate some more

[MFKS]

Didn’t Oz enforce the follow on against India (?) one day and they scored like 900 then rolled the Aussies for 20 or something?

Fabulous.

It was back in the early 2000s when Tugger Waugh sent the Indians back in after we rolled them cheaply in India in the first dig and had a sizeable lead in the game and were 1-0 up in the series

We had Binger Lee Dizzy Gillespie McGrath and Warnie plus our batting line up included Hayden Langer Ponting Gilchrist etc so we were well equipped in theory

Indians had other ideas and VVS Laxman got 270 odd and Rahul Dravid got 180 odd and we went a full day without a wicket

Indians got a lead and then bowled themselves to victory. The tide in the series turned and India got the series win and denied the Aussies a first win in India in 30+ years etc

All blame goes on Tugger Waugh and his decision to not bat and grind them into the ground etc

Following on gave them a chance and they took it
Batting would have crippled them

[The Dunster]

Never in doubt. Can't believe anyone doubting Steve Smith's decision to not enforce the follow on. :rof:

[plague]

Steve Waugh was a fraud though.

[hawk]

Sneaked the game by 120 runs so the decision was not wrong

Reality was despite the position England got in to 140 years if history suggests you ain't chasing down that type of score in the 4th innings

Best part about it is the Poms got some good cricket out of them that at least won't punish us when the game is on the line

1 more win in Perth to make it 3-0 and then just go through the motions for 5-0 as they capitulate some more

Wrong. We would have not batted again if they follow on.

and we have lost on record 4th innings scores more than once. do some historiz humpty

[MFKS]

Didn’t Oz enforce the follow on against India (?) one day and they scored like 900 then rolled the Aussies for 20 or something?

Fabulous.


Wrong. We would have not batted again if they follow on.

and we have lost on record 4th innings scores more than once. do some historiz humpty

England in 992 Tests have a highest 4th innings chase of 332 in 1928??

Or that in the 108 times England have been asked to chase a score above 332 they have won 0 of these 108 games losing 80 of these games and drawing the rest??

Which stat you referring to??

Because there was very minimal chance we were losing that game

[hawk]

England in 992 Tests have a highest 4th innings chase of 332 in 1928??

Or that in the 108 times England have been asked to chase a score above 332 they have won 0 of these 108 games losing 80 of these games and drawing the rest??

Which stat you referring to??

Because there was very minimal chance we were losing that game

but Eng scored 370 & 363 in 4th inns at Adel previously. Score was attainable

[MFKS]

but Eng scored 370 & 363 in 4th inns at Adel previously. Score was attainable

Scoring runs when you don't win and scoring runs and you do are two different things

They never got into that game. Sure whilst Root was there they had a chance

But they still needed 170 odd runs to win.
Every time a wicket fell it was going to ramp up the pressure on the batting side

As it did so spectacularly today

If they had of got to 100 with 5-6 wickets in hand then the pressure would have intensified on them as they would have really started to believe they could win not just hopeetc


Test Cricket for all the changes with T20 and ODI still has statistics and nuances that stand the test of time .

350+ run chases in the 4th innings just don't happen
Be more likely to see Shaun Marsh 100s than this

[hawk]

Scoring runs when you don't win and scoring runs and you do are two different things

They never got into that game. Sure whilst Root was there they had a chance

But they still needed 170 odd runs to win.
Every time a wicket fell it was going to ramp up the pressure on the batting side

If they had of got to 100 with 5-6 wickets in hand then the pressure would have intensified on them as they would have really started to believe they could win not just hopeetc

350+ run chases in the 4th innings just don't happen
Be more likely to see Shaun Marsh 100s than this
incorrect

No, each run is worth 1 whether winning or losing. South Africa d Australia with 414/4 4th inns & South Africa won by 6 wickets. At 2/130 they could have done it

We bowl to them when following-on at night and with no confidence theres a high chance we dont bat again making 4th inns debate moot. The decision not to follow-on was still incorrect but as i said before its difficult to make correct decisions all the time. hindsight etc

[Jetmaster]

English making an issue of sledging...again.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/42277764


I'm not making an issue of it.

FFS.

[MFKS]

English making an issue of sledging...again.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/42277764



FFS.

How about they making an issue of playing cricket well??

Useless ****s

[hawk]

Just whinging Poms being. Barmy Army are angels lol, fk them all

[plague]

good days cricket that.
england showed some spine.

[MFKS]

good days cricket that.
england showed some spine.

Any chance our ****ing captain can win the ****ing toss??

[plague]

Any chance our ****ing captain can win the ****ing toss??

up until today Smith won every toss, especially the ones Root won.

[The Dunster]

Smith has no idea when it comes to appealing LBW decisions with the ball. If a pace bowler hits a batsmen on the front pad above the knee roll you don't waste an appeal on it. Unfortunately, he does it every time - then wonders why hawk-eye shows the ball going over the top of the stumps.

[MFKS]

up until today Smith won every toss, especially the ones Root won.

I really don't give a **** what people think but your captain should be the best player at two up in the side

Considering in cricket advantage goes to the side winning it then it imperative that you winning it more than not

Smith seems to be shocking at it

Get the tinniest **** in the team to go toss the ****er coin

Every little advantage helps etc

[Jetmaster]

Gonna miss the WACA, no more Fremantle Doctor, no more bouncy pitch with balls going over the keeper and hitting the sightscreen on the full.

Moving to yet another beige state of the art stadium...zzzzzz

Still vividly remember sitting in a park at the Entrance and hearing Doug Walters' last ball six.

[belchardo]

good days cricket that.
england showed some spine.

england's problem to me seems to be that they can certainly win a session or a day, but they can never back it up. i fully expect that australia will bowl them out by lunch for about another 50 or so. 350 is probably a par score. the quality of their tail makes me think 1 more wicket and they're all out.

also, what a suprise! they move bairstow up the order and they get a decent score!

[MFKS]

Whether England go on and win this or not is irrelevant

They still having cards falling their way with the toss getting pick of conditions etc

Wonder how they go if Australia bat first on a road ??

[The Dunster]

Australias fielding has been shit. Dropped catches let the poms back into it.

[skippy]

england's problem to me seems to be that they can certainly win a session or a day, but they can never back it up. i fully expect that australia will bowl them out by lunch for about another 50 or so. 350 is probably a par score. the quality of their tail makes me think 1 more wicket and they're all out.

also, what a suprise! they move bairstow up the order and they get a decent score!

**** you should be a commentator.

[belchardo]

**** you should be a commentator.

do i say really obvious things just after they happen often? :rof:

australia making hard work of the batting.

[belchardo]

pretty sure smith must put a wasp in his box before walking out to bat.

[MFKS]

9 to go

[belchardo]

will be over by tea.

[MFKS]

8 to go

[MFKS]

7 to go

**** me

Root would have to be the most over rated batsmen ever really

Lot of hype but not even close to Smith/Kohli debate for who number one

[Retro Jet]

Fkn rain...
Sickening to see Pommie flags waiving because of it.
Shot ducks.

[belchardo]

possibly the greatest ever commentators curse from warnie there: "think we'll see a lot more of vince", next ball, stump disappears.

[MFKS]

possibly the greatest ever commentators curse from warnie there: "think we'll see a lot more of vince", next ball, stump disappears.

6 to go

To be fair to Vance it was a top ball

Didn't even get close to it

[belchardo]

6 to go

To be fair to Vance it was a top ball

Didn't even get close to it

How could he? Hit the crack and almost went backwards!

[hawk]

10, 9, 8, 7, 6, flood

[plague]

Steve Smith just been hit with a sexual assault allegation.

called the tea lady 'luv' during the break earlier this summer.

forced to resign immediately.

poms got hope.

[Retro Jet]

Steve Smith just been hit with a sexual assault allegation.

called the tea lady 'luv' during the break earlier this summer.

forced to resign immediately.

poms got hope.

Meehhhh...situation probably went something like this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFTUG6z-9-4

[Jetmaster]

BBC commentator this morning calling Vince's innings the "best of the match"....it's penthouse or shithouse with those guys.

And yes I know of no crowds that cheer more than Poms when it rains and their team is in trouble.

[The Dunster]

Win lose or draw the poms have always been delusional about their performances. Truth is as a country they have achieved sweet **** all in the last 100 years and should either change their name or merge with Germany to avoid further embarrassment.

[plague]

Win lose or draw the poms have always been delusional about their performances. Truth is as a country they have achieved sweet **** all in the last 100 years and should either change their name or merge with Germany to avoid further embarrassment.

They Knighted Ian Botham who was pretty much Simon O’Donnell with better hair.

[Jetmaster]

They Knighted Ian Botham who was pretty much Simon O’Donnell with better hair.

FFS - they gave the entire team MBE's because they won the Ashes in 2005.

And people thought the Beatles were unworthy!

[The Dunster]

FFS - they gave the entire team MBE's because they won the Ashes in 2005.

And people thought the Beatles were unworthy!

Only reason they won in 2005 was they doctored the crap out of the ball. They had players chewing minties then weighting one side of the ball with their saliva. Makes it a piece of piss to get a ball to reverse swing. Once the poms couldn't get away with the tampering they went to shit soon after.

[WolfMan]

They Knighted Ian Botham who was pretty much Simon O’Donnell with better hair.

That is fantastic. If I had a drink, I would have spit it out

[MFKS]

Only reason they won in 2005 was they doctored the crap out of the ball. They had players chewing minties then weighting one side of the ball with their saliva. Makes it a piece of piss to get a ball to reverse swing. Once the poms couldn't get away with the tampering they went to shit soon after.

The actually just found a flaw in the great Aussie side and exploited it

That we had a team of blokes who just kept hitting balls and trying to play through the line

By bringing swing bowling into the equation they found a flaw in our techniques and prospered

Fair play to them for tactically doing us over


What though is a right laugh is the pitches that are presented for Ashes tests in England since

They ain't classic English pitches with a lot of grass on them that allow movement off the pitch

They dry abrasive things designed to rough the ball up to favour reverse swing

The ridiculous thing is if you watch Test Cricket on Fox when they playing at home against the Windies Pakis Indians etc they produce English type wickets

It only when the Ashes is on do they produce the reverse swing things

They won't produce English wickets for us as we have better bowlers than them to exploit those conditions

[hawk]

That is fantastic. If I had a drink, I would have spit it out

Almost dropped my sherry

[MFKS]

2 to go

Feel like days of old listening to Barmy Army

We're ****ing shit
We're ****ing shit

[Premy]

Only reason they won in 2005 was they doctored the crap out of the ball. They had players chewing minties then weighting one side of the ball with their saliva. Makes it a piece of piss to get a ball to reverse swing. Once the poms couldn't get away with the tampering they went to shit soon after.

I love how naive Australians can be when it comes to cricket.
Like the time Lillie went in with an Aluminum bat.
Like the time Trevor Chappell bowled against New Zealand.
Like the time Hadden knocked the bails off with his glove and claimed that Clarke bowled the batsman.
Like the time Faf Du Plessis was fined for doing the same thing Smith admitted to doing.
Like the time Smith was looking to Lehmann for DRS advice.

Thats just from the top of my head. Yet you whine about a bit of spit.

[q-money]

:rof:

can you believe you could get 1.4 on betfair not 20 minutes ago for an australian win? outrageous

[MFKS]

I love how naive Australians can be when it comes to cricket.
Like the time Lillie went in with an Aluminum bat.
Like the time Trevor Chappell bowled against New Zealand.
Like the time Hadden knocked the bails off with his glove and claimed that Clarke bowled the batsman.
Like the time Faf Du Plessis was fined for doing the same thing Smith admitted to doing.
Like the time Smith was looking to Lehmann for DRS advice.

Thats just from the top of my head. Yet you whine about a bit of spit.

Don't forget same thing applies in football

Anyone dives wastes time play acts goes down etc and they just happen to not be Australian then the crowd give them what for

If they a Skip doing it they see nothing.

It is embarassing at Socceroos games when a rival goes down injured. Medical man comes out to a chorus of boos

Then the player gets subbed off as he is legitimate injured and the same cunce clap him off

****ing hypocritical

[hawk]

I love how naive Australians can be when it comes to cricket.
Like the time Lillie went in with an Aluminum bat.
Like the time Trevor Chappell bowled against New Zealand.
Like the time Hadden knocked the bails off with his glove and claimed that Clarke bowled the batsman.
Like the time Faf Du Plessis was fined for doing the same thing Smith admitted to doing.
Like the time Smith was looking to Lehmann for DRS advice.

Thats just from the top of my head. Yet you whine about a bit of spit.

That is pissiest lightweight set of excuses ive ever seen and they arent even cheating ones. You have to defend those other cunce better than this.

[hawk]

Thats it. Poms can eat a bag

[The Dunster]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0790/0465/products/FullSizeRender_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1499276529

[Bremsstrahlung]

What a downer of a series.
Can’t tell if we reasonably good at cricket again, or England are just taking the piss. Cause they wanna put some Bets on a 3-2 ashes defeat now.

[MFKS]

What a downer of a series.
Can’t tell if we reasonably good at cricket again, or England are just taking the piss. Cause they wanna put some Bets on a 3-2 ashes defeat now.

The English are piss weak

We are as per usual pretty solid in home conditions

We ain't good at this game again

Smith is great but the rest of our batsmen would not make Aussie sides in the last 25 years

Plus we have some good but not great bowlers

Until we start winning games overseas we ain't any good

[hawk]

Smith is a star.

We need to beat the Poms & Pakis at theirs before we start rating the team. To be super team we need to India at hot oven curry central

[The Dunster]

Smith has batted mostly on flat wickets and faced bowlers that are average at best. He's a very good batsmen sure but he's over rated just the same.

[Jetmaster]

Not as over rated as flat track bully David Warner.

[The Dunster]

Not as over rated as flat track bully David Warner.

agreed.

[MFKS]

Smith has batted mostly on flat wickets and faced bowlers that are average at best. He's a very good batsmen sure but he's over rated just the same.

Disagree

Bloke has been successful in England
Bloke has been successful in India
Bloke has been successful in West Indies
Bloke has been successful in South Africa
Bloke has been successful in New Zealand
Bloke has been successful in Sri Lanka
Bloke has been successful all over Australia

Not much more really for him to do but keep it up

Bloke has done shit that Ponting Chappell Clarke Waugh Border etc before him never done

You don't average 60+ in test cricket unless you can seriously play

You just have to bow down and accept he is that damn good

[The Dunster]

Disagree

Bloke has been successful in England
Bloke has been successful in India
Bloke has been successful in West Indies
Bloke has been successful in South Africa
Bloke has been successful in New Zealand
Bloke has been successful in Sri Lanka
Bloke has been successful all over Australia

Not much more really for him to do but keep it up

Bloke has done shit that Ponting Chappell Clarke Waugh Border etc before him never done

You don't average 60+ in test cricket unless you can seriously play

You just have to bow down and accept he is that damn good

He's nowhere near the standard of Viv Richards or Gary Sobers - and has never faced the quality of bowlers either of the Chappell brothers did.
I'd put Border ahead of Smith and Punter and Waugh right up there as well.

Not saying Smith isn't good just saying he's got a long way to go before we should be calling him the best since Bradman.

And then there is the difference in pitches these days and equipment - bats are wayyy better these days than even 20 years ago.

[Jeterpool]

And then there is the difference in pitches these days and equipment - bats are wayyy better these days than even 20 years ago.

Not a massive cricket fan, but can I ask if there's been significant improvement in the technology of balls as well? If so, does that adequately offset the improvement in pitches and bats?

[hawk]

Smith has batted mostly on flat wickets and faced bowlers that are average at best. He's a very good batsmen sure but he's over rated just the same.

no way

[The Dunster]

Not a massive cricket fan, but can I ask if there's been significant improvement in the technology of balls as well? If so, does that adequately offset the improvement in pitches and bats?

I only know of Dukes and Kookaburras. Kookaburra has a less pronounced seam and as such doesn't swing as readily as the duke - but a twist top lid can solve that problem.

Overall though, balls are pretty much the same as far as I can tell - I haven't let one go in anger for 30 years.

[MFKS]

Not a massive cricket fan, but can I ask if there's been significant improvement in the technology of balls as well? If so, does that adequately offset the improvement in pitches and bats?

Balls haven't changed that much over the years

To be fair they probably worse as like most things nowadays are now manufactured in 3rd world countries with variable quality as opposed to days gone by where they were created in England Australia with better workmanship etc

Bats were arguably better with natural willow like they use to be back in the day

The current bats they use shit timber and they basically disposable. Where they have got better is using science and technology to create them so they have bigger sweet spots and can generate more power

[The Dunster]

Balls haven't changed that much over the years

To be fair they probably worse as like most things nowadays are now manufactured in 3rd world countries with variable quality as opposed to days gone by where they were created in England Australia with better workmanship etc

Bats were arguably better with natural willow like they use to be back in the day

The current bats they use shit timber and they basically disposable. Where they have got better is using science and technology to create them so they have bigger sweet spots and can generate more power

Are you talking about the bats we can buy or the ones the professionals use?

[MFKS]

Are you talking about the bats we can buy or the ones the professionals use?

Both

The professionals are using the shit Indian timber things not the old style willow bats anyway

[The Dunster]

Both

The professionals are using the shit Indian timber things not the old style willow bats anyway

https://cricketwarehouse.com.au/products/gray-nicolls-kaboom-players-edition-dw-bat

Seems odd given plenty of English Willow bats around to choose from off the shelf and then you have custom made bats which you would think the professional players [ much like tennis pros] would get built to their specs.

Is there a reason why they are choosing shit Indian Timber bats ?

[Jetmaster]

Add drop in pitches, short boundaries, covered wickets etc etc

I think Bradman only hit one six in test cricket - would have been hard with those old bats.

[MFKS]

https://cricketwarehouse.com.au/products/gray-nicolls-kaboom-players-edition-dw-bat

Seems odd given plenty of English Willow bats around to choose from off the shelf and then you have custom made bats which you would think the professional players [ much like tennis pros] would get built to their specs.

Is there a reason why they are choosing shit Indian Timber bats ?

$$

Sponsorship from Indian bat companies is one thing that comes to mind

[Macca]

I don't think the professionals are using Kashmir in theirs, since most club cricketers move on from it when they're about 14. Unless there's a manufacturer conspiracy going on which is possible but I doubt it.

Bowlers also enjoy modern advantages, their fitness and diet/health would be far superior to what they used to be, as well as enjoying the perks of being full time professionals (I'll admit I don't know when the game went pro, world series cricket maybe? before my time)

Personally I think the moaning on bats is way overdone. I think if you had to play T20 cricket with old bats you would notice a huge difference in effectiveness (with the modern bats being way way more forgiving and sweeter striking of the ball) but for test cricket, with the majority of shots being about timing and placement, I don't think its as big a deal as its made out to be. Protective equipment is probably a way better argument with mugs who can't hold a bat able to go out and not be scared for their life.
But how well you can hit a ball is a small component in how effective a Test batsman you are. And I think with his obvious talent and brilliant eye, as well as how he has developed his patience and ability to build big innings over the last few years, Smith would have succeeded in any era.

[The Dunster]

$$

Sponsorship from Indian bat companies is one thing that comes to mind

Not at all. Players used to and as far as I know still do have their bats custom made and then apply a sponsors sticker to them. It's the same with a lot of sports from Tennis, Squash, Cycling... and so on. Also applies to musicians, especially guitars where they are custom made and then have a sponsors sticker applied to them.

Cost for a bat is around $5000 or so from what I've been told. Which is peanuts to these blokes.

[Macca]

Not at all. Players used to and as far as I know still do have their bats custom made and then apply a sponsors sticker to them. It's the same with a lot of sports from Tennis, Squash, Cycling... and so on. Also applies to musicians, especially guitars where they are custom made and then have a sponsors sticker applied to them.

Cost for a bat is around $5000 or so from what I've been told. Which is peanuts to these blokes.

Tennis players change to a different model racquet but for sponsorship reasons will have the new frame painted to look like the old one they're using so people looking around Rebel sport can see which racquet their favourite pro is using [is being paid to endorse]

[MFKS]

Not at all. Players used to and as far as I know still do have their bats custom made and then apply a sponsors sticker to them. It's the same with a lot of sports from Tennis, Squash, Cycling... and so on. Also applies to musicians, especially guitars where they are custom made and then have a sponsors sticker applied to them.

Cost for a bat is around $5000 or so from what I've been told. Which is peanuts to these blokes.

Difference is these blokes ain't paying for their bats

Guaranteed Smith Root Warner and co get the ****ers for free

You think Jason Day and Jordan Speith are in Drummond Golf buying a set of clubs with their own coin??

Like **** they are

[The Dunster]

Difference is these blokes ain't paying for their bats

Guaranteed Smith Root Warner and co get the ****ers for free

You think Jason Day and Jordan Speith are in Drummond Golf buying a set of clubs with their own coin??

Like **** they are

An endorsement from a company that makes bats does not automatically mean you have to use their bats as you seem to imply.

I would suggest the top players would employ a craftsmen of their own choice and have a bat custom made for them using select high quality English Willow.

The idea that they would use inferior quality bats to satisfy a sponsor is ludicrous given they can simply put the sponsors sticker on any bat they choose and nobody will really be the wiser.

The sponsor then may choose to make a version of that bat for the general public but it's highly unlikely it would be of the same quality.

The requirements / skills of professionals are such that what equipment suits them more often than not won't suit the average mug who plays grade cricket.

I definitely know for sure that the rackets pro tennis players use are never available brand new to the public. I can't see cricket bats being any different and for similar reasons.

Golf is so full of marketing bullshit I wouldn't know where to start given it's a game for cork sniffer types who wouldn't know shit from clay.

[The Dunster]

Bowlers also enjoy modern advantages, their fitness and diet/health would be far superior to what they used to be, as well as enjoying the perks of being full time professionals (I'll admit I don't know when the game went pro, world series cricket maybe? before my time).

No chance. Kids today are slower with less endurance than their parents and grandparents so they are starting from a lower base before they turn pro anyway.. The diets and so on can't make up for the fact they start at a lower level of fitness / strength.
Bowling wise Thommo was in a different league for pace to anyone around today. As far as athleticism goes Michael Holding still has no equal, and for longevity Courtney Walsh would also be without peer.
Most of the gains in sport are through equipment not people unless we want to bring PED's into it.

EDIT: Dennis Lillee was probably the next fastest until he got injured and had to bowl fast-medium to medium pace for the bulk of his career. He's also what I would describe as the first of the modern bowlers.

[Premy]

No chance. Kids today are slower with less endurance than their parents and grandparents so they are starting from a lower base before they turn pro anyway.. The diets and so on can't make up for the fact they start at a lower level of fitness / strength.
Bowling wise Thommo was in a different league for pace to anyone around today. As far as athleticism goes Michael Holding still has no equal, and for longevity Courtney Walsh would also be without peer.
Most of the gains in sport are through equipment not people unless we want to bring PED's into it.

EDIT: Dennis Lillee was probably the next fastest until he got injured and had to bowl fast-medium to medium pace for the bulk of his career. He's also what I would describe as the first of the modern bowlers.
:roflz::roflz::roflz:

[The Dunster]

:roflz::roflz::roflz:

You think the Nintendo generation are better athletes ? Plenty of studies on endurance and speed tell us otherwise. Lots of old athletics records are still around at club level - some are over 40 years old and don't look like being beaten anytime soon.

Same study but different articles below.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/kids-today-run-slower-than-their-parents

https://www.today.com/parents/generation-slowpoke-kids-dont-run-fast-parents-once-did-study-2D11603599

Prmary research is at https://www.nichd.nih.gov/Pages/index.aspx

If that's not enough then have a look at these peer reviewed papers:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-200333040-00003


And has anyone even come close to the feats of David Boon or Rod Marsh before him on a plane ? I think not.

[pv4]

I think Bradman only hit one six in test cricket - would have been hard with those old bats.

That is fascinating.

[MFKS]

And has anyone even come close to the feats of David Boon or Rod Marsh before him on a plane ? I think not.

But these modern day athletes are not allowed to be hardened drinkers .

They not allowed to get on the piss on an international flight anyway when representing the country

Airlines won't give you that much piss anyway due to RSA being in effect

And the younger generation are that ****ing stupid anyway they will simulate sex with a dog drink their own urine or cop a blowy from a dog or something like that when drinking and after only a handful compared to Boony and Marsh anyway

So it not really their fault despite the reality the current generation is soft as compared to the oldies

[The Dunster]

It was a joke member.

[Macca]

Without having read the primary one, the SBS article seems to indicate that average fitness levels are dropping across the generations, which I would not dispute at all.

What I would challenge though is that the top 1% I reckon would be on par or exceeding previous generations. Advancements in sports science, technology, understanding of the body etc as well as the ramping up of professionalism allowing more people to more fully dedicate themselves to athletic and sporting pursuits. I dunno, I just find it hard to imagine that blokes who have busted their gut since they were 10 under modern training regimes and coaching would fall short of blokes who spent more time surfing and riding bikes.

[Jetmaster]

I don't know where the "express" fast bowlers have gone though it has alot to do with the workload and types of games played.

As mentioned above Thomson and Holding were out of this planet. Thommo was frightening at his peak and there is no way any of those "official" timings of Akhtar, Tait or Lee were faster than Thomson. Thommo himself reckons he clocked nearer 180kph than 160kph (now we jump at a ball of 145kph). He was a naturally superb athlete.

Thommo bowled deliveries that would bounce over the keeper and hit the sight screen on the full. Marsh would stand halfway to the boundary. Some deliveries you just didn't see. Holding was close in pace but his natural action was less scary.

Plus, Thommo was a khunt who enjoyed hitting blokes on the scone. Great days.

[Macca]

I don't know where the "express" fast bowlers have gone though it has alot to do with the workload and types of games played.

As mentioned above Thomson and Holding were out of this planet. Thommo was frightening at his peak and there is no way any of those "official" timings of Akhtar, Tait or Lee were faster than Thomson. Thommo himself reckons he clocked nearer 180kph than 160kph (now we jump at a ball of 145kph). He was a naturally superb athlete.

Thommo bowled deliveries that would bounce over the keeper and hit the sight screen on the full. Marsh would stand halfway to the boundary. Some deliveries you just didn't see. Holding was close in pace but his natural action was less scary.

Plus, Thommo was a khunt who enjoyed hitting blokes on the scone. Great days.

Not doubting his pace or anything like that, no matter how hard you try some people just are naturally talented and their biomechanics or natural technique is just excellent and makes them stand out.

[MFKS]

It was a joke member.

I aware it a joke

I was just getting in the opportunity to confirm how soft the Nintendo generation is

Watch the ****ers squirm today in this heat.
Wonder how they would have survived in the last 80s with no Air Conditioning

Poor ****ers can't handle the heat

[pv4]

What I would challenge though is that the top 1% I reckon would be on par or exceeding previous generations. Advancements in sports science, technology, understanding of the body etc as well as the ramping up of professionalism allowing more people to more fully dedicate themselves to athletic and sporting pursuits. I dunno, I just find it hard to imagine that blokes who have busted their gut since they were 10 under modern training regimes and coaching would fall short of blokes who spent more time surfing and riding bikes.

And you forgot to mention drugs.

A genuine question - how many athletic-based world records (i'm now thinking along the lines of Olympics style events) have lasted 20+ years? My very casual understanding says every few years a world record gets broken for most things athletically. Surely the 1% as you mention Macca are ahead of past athletes.

[q-money]

I aware it a joke

I was just getting in the opportunity to confirm how soft the Nintendo generation is

Watch the ****ers squirm today in this heat.
Wonder how they would have survived in the last 80s with no Air Conditioning

Poor ****ers can't handle the heat

the only thing worse than millennials is people complaining about millenials

[pv4]

the only thing worse than millennials is people complaining about millenials

it's all the damn baby boomers fault.

[q-money]

not content with ruining the world they have to whinge about it as well

[Premy]

Rodger Bannister broke the 4 minute mile in 1954, today the world record for the mile 3:43.13, that is a full 16 seconds quicker.
Just let that sink in.


Yeah nah the current generation are slower then the generations that preceded them. :roflz:

[hawk]

the only thing worse than millennials is people complaining about millenials

Standard terrible millennial strain of thought

Millennials or (Gen Y but tried to be a bit more special) are responsible for the 'over the top' PC brigade which has nearly fkd the country. Only now are the assholes being put to bed.

[The Dunster]

Rodger Bannister broke the 4 minute mile in 1954, today the world record for the mile 3:43.13, that is a full 16 seconds quicker.
Just let that sink in.


Yeah nah the current generation are slower then the generations that preceded them. :roflz:

You do realise track technology has a lot to do with the falling mile time in the 1950's / 60's - also they shaved 6 seconds off Bannisters time within 10 years, and within another 10 years [1975] Walker had taken Ten seconds off Bannisters time to make it around 3'49".

I might also add that Steve Crams British mile record is 32 years old, and that the current World Record you mention is also 18 years old.

So the question is what the hell has happened in the last 18 years ?

The last two one-mile world record holders are 43 and 47 years old now - and Cram the holder before them is now 57 years old.

So much for your example. Try again.

[q-money]

Standard terrible millennial strain of thought

Millennials or (Gen Y but tried to be a bit more special) are responsible for the 'over the top' PC brigade which has nearly fkd the country. Only now are the assholes being put to bed.

ah, the classic moan of an X'er who can't deal with getting called out for his terrible opinions

who is the real snowflake here

[The Dunster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvkWLlpihKI

Just to balance it up.

[hawk]

ah, the classic moan of an X'er who can't deal with getting called out for his terrible opinions

who is the real snowflake here

rofl And another millennial douchebag atrocity...cant handle the opinions of anyone older.

Snowflake? lol the gen Y attempt to pigeon hole an opinion that doesnt suit their faux beliefs. Keep coming with the cool labels.

Get back to work ya righteous pinkos lolol oh wait lifes too hard

[Premy]

You do realise track technology has a lot to do with the falling mile time in the 1950's / 60's - also they shaved 6 seconds off Bannisters time within 10 years, and within another 10 years [1975] Walker had taken Ten seconds off Bannisters time to make it around 3'49".

I might also add that Steve Crams British mile record is 32 years old, and that the current World Record you mention is also 18 years old.

So the question is what the hell has happened in the last 18 years ?

The last two one-mile world record holders are 43 and 47 years old now - and Cram the holder before them is now 57 years old.

So much for your example. Try again.

I love how in your little rant you proved yourself wrong.

[Premy]

I aware it a joke

I was just getting in the opportunity to confirm how soft the Nintendo generation is

Watch the ****ers squirm today in this heat.
Wonder how they would have survived in the last 80s with no Air Conditioning

Poor ****ers can't handle the heat


43c at Maitland today and still 41.4c at 4pm. Storm building - looking forward to the cool change.

You mean like this one from Nintendo generation? :roflz:

[Jetmaster]

Looking forward to a cool change and Nintendo's worried about heat - two different things.

Generation war brewing here boys - back to the crickit!

[The Dunster]

You mean like this one from Nintendo generation? :roflz:

I'm old. I have no dramas admitting I can't handle the heat. Pretty good on Nintendo though just quietly.

https://cdn.randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/neil-young-vs-neil-old.jpg

[plague]

i dont know what generation im from but am damn sure im ****ing right about everything.

[The Dunster]

i dont know what generation im from but am damn sure im ****ing right about everything.

I'll be following your KOTH tips this week then.

[hawk]

i dont know what generation im from but am damn sure im ****ing right about everything.

but every genno is wrong.

this wait till the 4th test has wrecked everything

[plague]

I'll be following your KOTH tips this week then.

yeah about this.

i only work* about 6 weeks a year. right now im in the middle of it. hence my poor KOTH attendance. ill be back for Autumn though, so get on son.



*and by work i mean a 9am tee off followed by lunch then late lunch then post work drinks. Plague will be in no state to focus on form guides.

[The Dunster]

I love how in your little rant you proved yourself wrong.

How ? The current world record is 18 years old - and the British record is 32 years old ?

The studies if you read them are not talking about all past generations being better. They are saying that recent generations have fallen behind . Which is unusual - because we expect imrpovement but it appears that free play may be more important than structured training - at least for kids.

Did you read any of the studies ?

And no I'm not saying these studies explain the world mile record over time - But they do point to a reduction in speed and endurance in recent generations [not specific to professionals] compared to their parents and grand parents since the study data began.

I'm always keen to learn new things so if you can explain why this is wrong I'm more than happy to find out why.

Maybe I'm not getting it and if so I'd like to know why.

[The Dunster]

I have no issues admitting I am wrong - and this time I'm definitely wrong.

Just discovered that while the averages are in decline the elite level is not following that trend on the world stage.

http://age-records.125mb.com/

We currently have 12 year olds running sub even time 100 metres. A 12 year old Jamaican kid ran 10.9 into a 0.7m wind. Time is ratified and official. Holy crap.

The current and recent 100m record for an under 16 is now 10.15 - That's insane and from someone with a bit of experience in athletics it won't be because of drugs - they do sfa at that age given they already producing enough naturally.

I'm absolutely shocked.

We also have 17 year olds breaking the 10 second barrier as well now.

[Macca]

I have no issues admitting I am wrong - and this time I'm definitely wrong.

Just discovered that while the averages are in decline the elite level is not following that trend on the world stage.

http://age-records.125mb.com/

We currently have 12 year olds running sub even time 100 metres. A 12 year old Jamaican kid ran 10.9 into a 0.7m wind. Time is ratified and official. Holy crap.

The current and recent 100m record for an under 16 is now 10.15 - That's insane and from someone with a bit of experience in athletics it won't be because of drugs - they do sfa at that age given they already producing enough naturally.

I'm absolutely shocked.

We also have 17 year olds breaking the 10 second barrier as well now.

The 17 and 16 year olds don't shock me tooo much, obviously they are super quick times but we've all seen 14 year olds that look like grown men.
The 12 year olds though, wow.

Thanks for the info too, glad to hear my assumption on the elite vs average was fairly correct.

[The Dunster]

And to make Premy happy.

Under 16 One Mile World Record - 3:56.29 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 15 Jun 17

Holy shit.

I stand corrected.

[hawk]

I have no issues admitting I am wrong - and this time I'm definitely wrong.

Just discovered that while the averages are in decline the elite level is not following that trend on the world stage.

http://age-records.125mb.com/

We currently have 12 year olds running sub even time 100 metres. A 12 year old Jamaican kid ran 10.9 into a 0.7m wind. Time is ratified and official. Holy crap.

The current and recent 100m record for an under 16 is now 10.15 - That's insane and from someone with a bit of experience in athletics it won't be because of drugs - they do sfa at that age given they already producing enough naturally.

I'm absolutely shocked.

We also have 17 year olds breaking the 10 second barrier as well now.

But dont we have more kids who are overweight than decades gone.

So elites are improving or same. the amateur sport kids are are ok while we have a much larger cohort of fatties

[The Dunster]

But dont we have more kids who are overweight than decades gone.

So elites are improving or same. the amateur sport kids are are ok while we have a much larger cohort of fatties

Yes the average kids today are struggling in comparison to parents and grandparents - but the elite kids are kicking arse if we are talking about best in the world.

So as Oscar Goldman said - " We have the technology". [youngsters be googling that shit 4 sure]

Macca was right on the money.

[Jetmaster]

Went for a walk yesterday....cool morning, no rain, school hols, fresh air in beautiful reserve parkland with a big playground at the back of the estate.

I saw a total of two kids outside swimming in their pool.

No bikes, no cricket, no football, no kids in the streets or reserve at all doing anything.

[The Dunster]

Went for a walk yesterday....cool morning, no rain, school hols, fresh air in beautiful reserve parkland with a big playground at the back of the estate.

I saw a total of two kids outside swimming in their pool.

No bikes, no cricket, no football, no kids in the streets or reserve at all doing anything.

And yet I would say more young kids play organised / club cricket now than they did in the 60's, 70's or 80's. I think kids at 5 years old and up are playing club cricket now which was very rare if it even happened at all in the 60's or 70's.

The growth in cricket at the junior level is very strong - see article below.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/national-cricket-census-play-cricket-facilities-audit-james-sutherland-2016-17/2017-08-11

This issue though is that it needs to be because of how strong junior cricket is in countries like India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka. Pretty amazing that we can even compete with these countries given the massive pools of talent they have to choose from.

[Jetmaster]

I suppose the ones that want it have better pathways now to follow.

[hawk]

Went for a walk yesterday....cool morning, no rain, school hols, fresh air in beautiful reserve parkland with a big playground at the back of the estate.

I saw a total of two kids outside swimming in their pool.

No bikes, no cricket, no football, no kids in the streets or reserve at all doing anything.

They be all at the mates place with no parents watching pron, sneaking twist tops and xboxing. life of a pre teen in our times ay :/

[Jetmaster]

They be all at the mates place with no parents watching pron, sneaking twist tops and xboxing. life of a pre teen in our times ay :/

Am extremely jealous at how easy it is for them to find pron.

In my day you had to have a mate who had an older brother who had the guts to walk into a sex shop in the Cross and get a few copies of Ribald.

[The Dunster]

Am extremely jealous at how easy it is for them to find pron.

In my day you had to have a mate who had an older brother who had the guts to walk into a sex shop in the Cross and get a few copies of Ribald.

Strangely enough, we had much less trouble getting into pubs and clubs as kids.

[hawk]

copies of Ribald.

bahahha rofled my ass off. havent heard that name since the 80's

[The Dunster]

bahahha rofled my ass off. havent heard that name since the 80's

If you lent one to a mate - you definitely didn't want it back that's for sure. I'm guessing you remember the quarto sized magazine Hawk - or can you also remember when it was a Newspaper as well ?

The chicks in them were absolute horrors though - wasn't unusual to see a few track marks on them either.

[hawk]

If you lent one to a mate - you definitely didn't want it back that's for sure. I'm guessing you remember the quarto sized magazine Hawk - or can you also remember when it was a Newspaper as well ?.

Newspaper? well ibf. didnt know that one.

I only remember mates older brothers passing the odd one around who then became suburban legends. for years I thought only pommy chicks with 70's haircuts did things like that.

[hawk]

Everyones heard, about the Bird

[Jetmaster]

bahahha rofled my ass off. havent heard that name since the 80's

Honestly still have a few copies stored away with various old football mags and Penthouses just for nostalgia purposes. Loved the comics...as well as the 80s "big hair" down below on some of thise girls!
Was amazed to find that a collection Ribalds exist in the National Library.


Anyway....the Boxing Day test is underway.

[hawk]

had no idea pron can take on a historical context.

anyways 1st test is on we used to play test match both the original and the new when cricket is on.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/60/a8/94/60a894ecb28f522620fbbc84bbbb34a4--board-games.jpg


note the spring loaded pullback string batsman
https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic163918.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2156/2423319876_2c08ba04a3_z.jpg?zz=1

we won a toss

[Bremsstrahlung]

Can’t make this shit up.

[Jetmaster]

Had both those games Hawk....with a Subbuteo set as well who needed a PS4?

[hawk]

we getting done now. catches win matches

[Jetmaster]

Note the classy way Cook celebrated his ton compared to the bogan "look at me" show Warner puts on.

[belchardo]

To be fair, Warner generally scores centuries that have some meaning. Cook would have looked a bit of a goose celebrating like warner when the series was already lost.

[Jetmaster]

The sole reason I can't stand Warner is because of that celebration - it isn't necessary to carry on like a pork chop no matter what the situation.

[Premy]

To be fair, Warner generally scores centuries that have some meaning. Cook would have looked a bit of a goose celebrating like warner when the series was already lost.
Cook has much more on the line in this test then Warner does, like his spot in his team. Cook looked relieved yet personified class, Warner was saved from embarrassment by a few mils from being done on 99 to a debutant bowler than carried on like the arrogant twat he is 1 ball later.

[The Dunster]

The sole reason I can't stand Warner is because of that celebration - it isn't necessary to carry on like a pork chop no matter what the situation.

He married a chick who was video taped rooting a Rugby player in a public toilet - I doubt anything would embarrass Warner.

[goaliepersempre]

FFS how can you let stuart broad hit a halfa...

[hawk]

He married a chick who was video taped rooting a Rugby player in a public toilet - I doubt anything would embarrass Warner.

wtf


Candice Warner has had previous high-profile relationships with sporting stars such as Braith Anasta, Matt Henjak, Matt Poole, Jacob Connelly, Brent Staker, Anderson, David Carney and Marcos Baghdatis. She was also in a brief relationship with British comedian David Walliams. She is also known for a "toilet tryst" with rugby superstar Sonny Bill Williams. In 2007, she was captured on a mobile phone camera getting the back end smashed out of her by Williams and Don Burke at the Clovelly Hotel. She was seen with another Bulldogs player, Ben Roberts, at a Kings Cross nightclub three hours afterward.

rof

[plague]

The sole reason I can't stand Warner is because of that celebration - it isn't necessary to carry on like a pork chop no matter what the situation.

geez mate I hope you never take up watching sockah. I heard those blokes can be a bit on the excited side when they bang one away.

[MFKS]

FFS how can you let stuart broad hit a halfa...

That was what showed Smith isn't a captains arsehole

I was at the gym watching the shit on the idiot box with no sound down

But the field placings and tactics were ****ing garbage

Fair enough if Broad comes out and plays a great knock but reality was we gave him the runs by the shit tactics they employed

When he come in Australia were well in the game by the time he got out the only way England are losing this is if Aussies bat well and the Poms collapse on a biblical scale
which probably ain't going to happen as the pitch is that slow they ain't going to score quick enough to erase the defecit and get 250+ in front

It was actually pretty abysmal captaincy from Smith. Bloke may be a great batsmen but his captaincy is right up there with Ponting for being a shit captain

We had some good ones in the last 30 years

Border Waugh Clarke and Taylor as far as captains went were top shelf

Smith and Ponting have been the only below average ones

[Jetmaster]

Candice Warner has had previous high-profile relationships with sporting stars such as Braith Anasta, Matt Henjak, Matt Poole, Jacob Connelly, Brent Staker, Anderson, David Carney and Marcos Baghdatis. She was also in a brief relationship with British comedian David Walliams. She is also known for a "toilet tryst" with rugby superstar Sonny Bill Williams. In 2007, she was captured on a mobile phone camera getting the back end smashed out of her by Williams and Don Burke at the Clovelly Hotel. She was seen with another Bulldogs player, Ben Roberts, at a Kings Cross nightclub three hours afterward.

I rest my case - I wouldn't put my willy anywhere where Carney's has been.

Apologies to foz member that has.

[The Dunster]

Some good bowling from Woakes today.

ROF @ Candace Warner Wiki page. The genius that added Don Burke into the mix and the phrase "getting the back end smashed out of her by Williams and Don Burke at the Clovelly Hotel" should get an OAM.

[MFKS]

If Smith's captaincy was poor then you got to marvel at Roots gutless display

Should have declared when Broad was out the other night
Would have given them 30 mins to bowl at the Aussies but he neglected it by being a coward

Then he didn't even have the balls to declare at stumps and got punished when they lasted 1 ball the next day

Then with a 170 run lead instead of setting attacking fields he sets the most mind numbing defensive fields and tries to bore Australia out

To only get 4 wickets in about 4/5 sessions of play is down to him

Glad to see his negative shit tactics were not rewarded

[plague]

If Smith's captaincy was poor then you got to marvel at Roots gutless display

Should have declared when Broad was out the other night
Would have given them 30 mins to bowl at the Aussies but he neglected it by being a coward

Then he didn't even have the balls to declare at stumps and got punished when they lasted 1 ball the next day

Then with a 170 run lead instead of setting attacking fields he sets the most mind numbing defensive fields and tries to bore Australia out

To only get 4 wickets in about 4/5 sessions of play is down to him

Glad to see his negative shit tactics were not rewarded

this is good cricket talk.

Root was terrible the whole series.

and now with Andersons one good spell.
with Broads one good spell.
and with Cooks one good innings, hes stuck with the same bunch of hacks for the foreseeable future.


also, ive not seen anything of Moeen Ali before, but by god hes honking. exactly what is he in the team for? cant bat or bowl. was he taking Stokes' spot or he in the team 24/7?

[hawk]

Dead wicket big sh1t. Some pasty poms were having a cry yet they dont mind creating swinging pitches to suit themselves every time.

Most aussies did well not to collapse which happens more often than not.

[The Dunster]

I thought Woakes bowled well only to later find out they'd gouged the cherry to make it reverse. Was any action taken or did they sweep it under the carpet?

[MFKS]

Sweet **** all

You ain't going to get pulled up on that in these times

[Jetmaster]

To any Pom whingers about pitch "fixing" - I point to Leeds 1972 and Cardiff 2009.

[MFKS]

To any Pom whingers about pitch "fixing" - I point to Leeds 1972 and Cardiff 2009.

They have fixed the pitches since 2005

An English cricket wicket is green and has movement off the pitch

They stopped producing them as we had better bowlers Lee McGrath Gillespie etc to exploit the condition they did

They tried the rough abrasive stuff for the reverse swing in 2005 and it worked

They have stuck with it ever since

Then you watch cricket on Fox in winter from England and you don't see these dry abrasive pitches on day 1 like you get in the Ashes

What you see is green English wickets for the Indians Windies Pakis Kiwis etc

Same wickets I would like to see Hazelwood Cummins etc on in 2019

Fat chance it happening as we have better bowlers than them for those type of conditions

[Jetmaster]

Exactly...and they openly admit it. Yet any pitch overseas deemed not suitable to their attack is deemed "poor".

[hawk]

That was what showed Smith isn't a captains arsehole

I was at the gym watching the shit on the idiot box with no sound down

But the field placings and tactics were ****ing garbage and my dik is small

Fair enough if Broad comes out and plays a great knock but reality was we gave him the runs by the shit tactics they employed

When he come in Australia were well in the game by the time he got out the only way England are losing this is if Aussies bat well and the Poms collapse on a biblical scale
which probably ain't going to happen as the pitch is that slow they ain't going to score quick enough to erase the defecit and get 250+ in front

It was actually pretty abysmal captaincy from Smith. Bloke may be a great batsmen but his captaincy is right up there with Ponting for being a shit captain

We had some good ones in the last 30 years

Border Waugh Clarke and Taylor as far as captains went were top shelf

Smith and Ponting have been the only below average ones

WRONG. Smith goes pretty well even with a below par team and his batting is worthy in any era.

You just concentrate on your gym regime and going full ladyboy and leave the cricket assessments to us.

[MFKS]

WRONG. Smith goes pretty well even with a below par team and his batting is worthy in any era.

You just concentrate on your gym regime and going full ladyboy and leave the cricket assessments to us.

No faulting his batting

His captaincy is ****ing well below par

Bloke has little idea at captaincy

[belchardo]

two overs to go and i thought it was going to be england's day. not now. root looked shattered, which i can understand but he doesn't get any sympathy from me!

dumb cricket. two overs to go, new ball, don't hit anything that isn't going to hit the stumps, and if you do have to hit it, play it with a dead bat.

[hawk]

two overs to go and i thought it was going to be england's day. not now. root looked shattered, which i can understand but he doesn't get any sympathy from me!

dumb cricket. two overs to go, new ball, don't hit anything that isn't going to hit the stumps, and if you do have to hit it, play it with a dead bat.

looking at some tvs over at the tv place watching the wickets fall on the 82". See the grimace on Root's face, priceless.

[plague]

the fix is in.
aussies dropping sitters.
couple of players gonna get a christmas bonus from john the bookie.

[The Dunster]

the fix is in.
aussies dropping sitters.
couple of players gonna get a christmas bonus from john the bookie.

What was their XCR [Expected Catch Rate] ?

[Macca]

What was their XCR [Expected Catch Rate] ?

Model didn't factor in the batsmen screaming "YES" and the dude in the crowd with the shiny watch.

[hawk]

Well batted Baja

[belchardo]

coming to a fast finish now i think.

[Jeterpool]

So, what was the go with Marcus Crane continually running in and then not releasing the ball? I saw at one stage on day 2 (i think) he did it 3 balls in a row!? As a batsman that's off-putting surely!

Was he cautioned by the umpires?

[Jetmaster]

That is that.

Enjoying the burn on BBC Sport live feed.

* Apparently England should have won in Adelaide and drawn Brisbane.
* This game should be a draw because it has been two days over 40 degrees and tennis stops at 40 degrees.
* Australia is a poor side but England played worse.
* The pitches are too flat.
* Too much short bowling.
* They should use Dukes balls here to even things up.
* Lyon can't bowl to right handers.
* England should pick more Muslim players!

Not only did they call for play stopping due to the heat but they actually said England should hang on for predicted showers later today.

[MFKS]

So, what was the go with Marcus Crane continually running in and then not releasing the ball? I saw at one stage on day 2 (i think) he did it 3 balls in a row!? As a batsman that's off-putting surely!

Was he cautioned by the umpires?

He was just having problems with his run up

He was bowling no balls as he had it Ballsed up
All he was doing was pulling up when he knew he was going to be over

During commentary Warne was talking about one time in his career he couldn't remember if he set off on his left or right foot first

Said it really ****ed with his head

[MFKS]

How soft is Joe Root ??

Remember when Graham Smith came out to bat with a broken arm and faced Mitch Johnson with one arm ??
That's courage

This bloke dogged it when his team needed him as he had the shits

FMD take some Immodium and literally garden the **** up you soft cunce

[Jetmaster]

We're in different times - it's all about player "welfare".

Smith, John Sattler, Rick McCosker, Beckenbauer all have memorable moments playing in pain.

New age physios drag people off now more or less to avoid being held accountable if something goes wrong.

[MFKS]

We're in different times - it's all about player "welfare".

Smith, John Sattler, Rick McCosker, Beckenbauer all have memorable moments playing in pain.

New age physios drag people off now more or less to avoid being held accountable if something goes wrong.

I aware we in different times and cunce are soft today

But where were the SPORTS SCIENTISTS etc who make sure these blokes are getting their meals hydration etc sorted ??

Yeah it was a hot day but there ain't been many reports of issues with the Barmy Army in the heat

Only 1 of 22 players went down in those conditions

Good thing is Root is just a soft **** and it will be great ammo for the Aussies to sledge him in future

[belchardo]

so you know he got hit with gastro right? nothing better than seeing a players pants turn more and more brown in the name of entertainment.

[MFKS]

so you know he got hit with gastro right? nothing better than seeing a players pants turn more and more brown in the name of entertainment.

**** me

There medicine to fix this stuff

You can go to a Pharmacy and get medicine to fill you up

You can go to a hospital/doctor surgery and get a needle and it fixes you up

There are ways to cover you for the shits

3rd world countries can do it so I fail to see why in this country it can't be solved

[plague]

If you aren’t prepared to poop your pants for your country then you need to leave.

[goaliepersempre]

also this blow up about the 4 - 0 with the hands.. Mate that is gold and truelly Australian... Keep it up needs more of it...

[Jetmaster]

Great tale Fred Trueman told of Wes Hall in India many years ago. Wes had Delhi Belly. Started at the top of his mark and ran in to bowl. Ran past the umpire, past the batsman, past the keeper, straight off the field to the shitter.
A few minutes later umpire knocked on the cubicle door...."excuse me Wes can we have the ball back, we'd like to get on with the game".

[belchardo]

gold

[MFKS]

Regardless of who wins the cricket in Sth Africa

All i can say is the Saffas have the best camera man in World Cricket.

If there are any hot girls in the crowd the camera man finds them and the director keeps going back to them

Can shove your new age PC BS up your arse

[belchardo]

just like barnaby, davey couldn't stop himself from flopping his wood out for one frigging minute.

[hawk]

just like barnaby, davey couldn't stop himself from flopping his wood out for one frigging minute.

bunch of dekocks

[belchardo]

bunch of dekocks

:rof:

[Jetmaster]

Regardless of who wins the cricket in Sth Africa

All i can say is the Saffas have the best camera man in World Cricket.

If there are any hot girls in the crowd the camera man finds them and the director keeps going back to them

Can shove your new age PC BS up your arse

Agreed - even looked like beer wenches were operating.

[hawk]

Agreed - even looked like beer wenches were operating.

Are we not men?

[hawk]

phking nice shot Bancroft for 50

[plague]

phking nice shot Bancroft for 50

bhahahahahaha, off he trots down the deck.

whoops, forgot to get bat on it.

back to the sheds ya go.

Smith on track for 300*

[hawk]

watch out for the spinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn rof

[belchardo]

south africa thinking of the golf course already by the look of things. good thing they don't get paid by the hour!

[hawk]

de village idiot

[hawk]

faffed it. furniture cartwheeled

[plague]

the level of disrespect shown by Lyon dropping the ball at deVilliers face as he lay strewn out on the ground was both terrible and sensational.

[hawk]

the level of disrespect shown by Lyon dropping the ball at deVilliers face as he lay strewn out on the ground was both terrible and sensational.

subtle, beautiful, perfect. you stay down there where you belong DV

[q-money]

the best part about it is hopefully someone will break downhill Davey Warner's jaw

[Jetmaster]

the best part about it is hopefully someone will break downhill Davey Warner's jaw

If you marry someone who threw it about in public (and with David Carney ffs), you are gonna cop it.

[plague]

oh man Dave Warner aint winning that fight, no sir. i mean, he could punch six shades of shit out of the whole South African team but he'll always be THAT dude who ended up with THAT chick. The receipts on her are farrrrrrr too public for him to think it'll go away.

Also, we're talking about Dave Warner not liking some sledging?

the same Dave Warner that has pretty much been Dave Warnering his whole life?

ok.

[belchardo]

how dumb can you be? some serious morons in the australian team by the look of things. surely smith has to be sacked as captain.

kudos to bancroft for shoving sandpaper down his undies though.

[plague]

Aussies to employ the Wanderers legal team to somehow defend the indefensible.

[plague]

****ing hell Steve Smith has gone full Scott Miller and thrown everyone under the bus.

What a spineless little man.

[The Dunster]

****ing hell Steve Smith has gone full Scott Miller and thrown everyone under the bus.

What a spineless little man.

Ball tampering has been and will always be a part of the game. Everyone does it but for some reason, much like performance enhancing drugs it's rarely admitted.
The poms won an ashes series 5-0 by doctoring the ball using gum - it happens.

[parksey]

cricket is a game literally built on cheating

[plague]

Ball tampering has been and will always be a part of the game. Everyone does it but for some reason, much like performance enhancing drugs it's rarely admitted.
The poms won an ashes series 5-0 by doctoring the ball using gum - it happens.

Oh again, I ain’t moralising about the act.

But Smiths spineless behaviour was something to behold.

If it was Alan Border, he would have berated the umps, the opposition and the media and contended that we can cheat whenever the hell we want because we are ‘straya.

The game went to poop the second Michael Clarke got given the top job.

[The Dunster]

Oh again, I ain’t moralising about the act.

But Smiths spineless behaviour was something to behold.

If it was Alan Border, he would have berated the umps, the opposition and the media and contended that we can cheat whenever the hell we want because we are ‘straya.

The game went to poop the second Michael Clarke got given the top job.

Five Star post.

I'll never figure out how anyone thought Clarke or Smith would make good leaders. Need some real men in charge not these sad little imposters who know more about hair products and skin moisturisers than they do about short stay hotels, beer, and punting.

[parksey]

yeah well smith is also pretty much the best player in the game who normally leads by example on the pitch

[plague]

yeah well smith is also pretty much the best player in the game who normally leads by example on the pitch

Totally fair comment.

But it’s interesting they never applied the same argument to making Shane Warne captain.

It’s a sad but fair excuse that there is so much money in these sports that the figurehead should be some vanilla type who won’t scare the sponsors away.

But man oh man if your ‘leader of men’ is first one in the lifeboat then that’s on the suits to deal with.

[plague]

Also, I reackon back in the day Dave Warner would have had ONE chance given to him by the team for his stupidity.

Not now, all these crisis management obsessed idiots want to give him the Wanderers treatment.

They can’t be surprised he keeps pulling on that thread.

[The Dunster]

yeah well smith is also pretty much the best player in the game who normally leads by example on the pitch

His batting record will be what saves him not his leadership / captaincy. By throwing others into the line of fire rather than jumping on the grenade himself to save his players Smith has proven he's not a leaders arsehole.

[belchardo]

crisis management obsessed idiots

saw a bit of james sutherland's press conference. classic "crisis management" tropes throughout:

- i'm shocked and disappointed this has occurred

- we are conducting a review

- need to undertake a deep investigation to find out what has happened

- there is a process to be followed

- it's too early to comment on whether any player should be stood down

- we will await the outcome of the investigation

to be fair, he did seem completely stunned that this had happened, but when you're captain fronts up and says "yeah i did it", what more do you need to investigate with respect to him?

[The Dunster]

Nothing will happen. In the past players have at the most been forced to pay a percentage of their match payment as a fine for the game when the incident occured. So it's the proverbial slap on the wrist but highly unlikely to lead to players getting banned, suspended, or even losing the captaincy.

This is why Smith didn't care about admitting it occurred with his knowledge / encouragement - he knows nothings going to happen to him based on precedent - and the chances become even more remote when you look at his batting record.

[plague]

Oh I’d be shocked if both Bancroft and Smith weren’t suspended for a test or 2.

That way Smith ‘loses’ the captaincy (for a minute) but then comes back a man who has learned his lesson and vows to uphold the high standards of the baggy green etc etc etc but really we just need his test average to hover round that 60 mark and all will be forgiven.

[Jetmaster]

The intense "mania" from media types who don't even watch cricket is astounding. Even the PM is weighing in ffs.
There will be penalties after investigation but its like pitchfork time at the moment. Have to give the Perth game the flick tonight to see what goes on at the cricket.
And totally agree with earlier comment that our leadership basically died when Ricky Ponting retired and left it to the new age boyz.

[baldrick]

Nothing worse than having your balls tampered.:blink:

[Grimario]

Better than having them tamped

[hawk]

deckheads. The only country to own up. In a game where all teams do this we suck badly.

As for the tests we suck anyway.

fkem would do again next test

[Bon]

Classic..
Came across this freebie on Gumtree.. :gent:

1***

[q-money]

my god, the takes are nuclear, and the takes are universally bad

cricket is a game that is intrinsically tied to cheating. normally i would be reveling in the opportunity to sink the boot into the 'strayan cricket team but really, come on.

everybody is cheating in cricket, all the time. if you're not cheating, you will never win anything.

reverse swing is legit only enabled by actually cheating. it's a slippery slope now and i reckon you won't see another reverse swing (aka cheating) masterclass for a year or so until we all find better ways to cheat again.

the orgy of self love from the english commentariat is also sickening me to the core. michael vaughan's twitter is the best, starts out laying the boot in then ends up having to defend himself from the '05 Ashes cheating masterclass

[plague]

q-man don’t you DARE get in the way of the hot takes.
Jim Maxwell crying, Aggers and Bloomers losing their marbles, the PM praising to Griff that it came out on the same day as yet another poor opinion poll.

The takes are awesome, and we haven’t even gotten to arvo drivetime AM radio yet.

[plague]

modz plz lift the Members ban at least for an hour so he can weigh in on this.

Bloke was born for this moment.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Things don’t really add up for me.

Yeh, I get ball tampering is bad. Cheating. Whatever.
Why is there so much outrage and the international governing body gives him a one match ban.
If it’s so damn serious, bam him for months, a year, a number of matches.

Also, the slippery slope of what you can get away with before it’s considered ball tampering.
You can polish one side of the ball til your heart is content using your trousers. Maybe ASICS could use a courser material for aerodynamics or sweat wicking. Throwing the ball over the pitch to scuff it.

[plague]

I think the one match ban was from the match referee. The ICC or Cricket Australia are allowed to come in over the top of that with further bans if they want (and rumours state that’s what’s gonna happen).

Shining the ball is technically ‘preserving the condition’ of the ball, which is perfectly legal as long as you use sweat and not sunscreen or lollies (oops).

Bouncing the ball in from outfield throws has been frowned upon for ages and a lot of umps give warnings for teams blatantly doing it and have the power to change the ball over if they think too much damage has been done. This is more a one dayer issue than tests but rules are the same I think.

[Macca]

Things don’t really add up for me.

Yeh, I get ball tampering is bad. Cheating. Whatever.
Why is there so much outrage and the international governing body gives him a one match ban.
If it’s so damn serious, bam him for months, a year, a number of matches.

Also, the slippery slope of what you can get away with before it’s considered ball tampering.
You can polish one side of the ball til your heart is content using your trousers. Maybe ASICS could use a courser material for aerodynamics or sweat wicking. Throwing the ball over the pitch to scuff it.

Cause the real outrage isn't with the governing body - its with the social media lynch mob.
Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed that its happened and all that - but when you look at what other teams do too, anything more than a few matches off is pretty harsh. Make them do extra "community service" (do a bunch of kids clinics and whatnot), give them a big kick up the arse and let them know if they get caught up in shady shit again they'll get a year off.

What exactly the dropping of captaincy does while still playing I'm not sure.. Smith is still the best player in the team and you imagine would still have a lot of influence anyway.

[Jetmaster]

Yep - its the social media mob again, the new "loony left".

Read Whirlpool for a laugh - one guy wants the whole team and management banned for life.

The worst punishment will see Smith lose the captaincy, maybe Warner the VC and Boof his job. Plus a few fines and 1-2 game suspensions - in 3 months we will forget it.

[plague]

Yep - its the social media mob again, the new "loony left".


Nope.
It’s pretty much the opposite.
It’s your old talkback Alan Jones types who hate 3 things in life
1. The gays.
2. The immigrants.
3. Cheats in sport.

I think all your hippie snowflake types are too busy looking off to the side saying ‘what’s cricket’ in an attempt to be more woke than the next bloke.............errrr sorry ‘gender non binary person’.


This is old white man heaven.

[Macca]

Nope.
It’s pretty much the opposite.
It’s your old talkback Alan Jones types who hate 3 things in life
1. The gays.
2. The immigrants.
3. Cheats in sport.

I think all your hippie snowflake types are too busy looking off to the side saying ‘what’s cricket’ in an attempt to be more woke than the next bloke.............errrr sorry ‘gender non binary person’.


This is old white man heaven.

I think its just people in general (all of whom are participating in the social media lynching). Old white people hate cheating, while the lefty snowflakes hate having imperfect celebrities being role models to their potential-future-imaginary children.

[q-money]

i'm a bleeding heart pinko and i reckon it's fantastic

[hawk]

Nope.
It’s pretty much the opposite.
It’s your old talkback Alan Jones types who hate 3 things in life
1. The gays.
2. The immigrants.
3. Cheats in sport.

I think all your hippie snowflake types are too busy looking off to the side saying ‘what’s cricket’ in an attempt to be more woke than the next bloke.............errrr sorry ‘gender non binary person’.


This is old white man heaven.

Love the white man bigot act. Like the man feminist. another parasite looking for do good pts.

fkn grow up you turds. Its international sport.

We arent the Peter Perfect ****ry like most wish/like to think. where pushing the rules to win at all costs like every other khunt.

Sure go for the internatinal culture change but you pathetic rose coloured glass crowd can do all the hard work if you can get off the lastest fps game, feeling sorry for sh1t or away from saving sharks

[plague]

Love the white man bigot act. Like the man feminist. another parasite looking for do good pts.

fkn grow up you turds. Its international sport.

We arent the Peter Perfect ****ry like most wish/like to think. where pushing the rules to win at all costs like every other khunt.

Sure go for the internatinal culture change but you pathetic rose coloured glass crowd can do all the hard work if you can get off the lastest fps game, feeling sorry for sh1t or away from saving sharks

I don’t understand any of this but can only assume someone’s just told Hawk that Santa isn’t real.

[hawk]

I don’t understand any of this but can only assume someone’s just told Hawk that Santa isn’t real.

take off the rose glasses and drop Deanne Smith mirage. Theres a real world out there

[Jetmaster]

Three days of people who know nothing spouting off with no facts.

Channel Nein has a "source", chasing Smith, saying Boof, six players and Sutherland were to be sacked, contacting every international cricketer still alive and even getting ACA on board telling a strange story about Warner's lifestyle (I reckon he is the "source").

I shudder at the social media types if they are ever on a jury, they expect massive punishments and for them to be delivered without due deliberation. And now after being attack dogs for three days the media is now concerned for Smith's mental health.

It has just gone overboard and even this morning as investigations follow their due course their findings are blasted by SM gurus as "bullshit".

I think Jim Maxwell is closer to the truth than most...


Warner's the one who really should wear most of this, and I'll be very surprised if he plays for Australia again.

He's clearly been ostracised by the rest of the players, I could see that in the body language on the plane, so I think he's pretty close to persona non grata from here on.

My understanding of the conversation is that it went like this. They were about to go out after lunch, and Smith saw Bancroft and Warner in collusion.

He said "what are you blokes doing? I don't want to know what you're doing", and then he went out onto the field.

Unfortunately, he didn't realise exactly how dire the act they were about to perpetrate on the field was. The cameras got them and Smith is going to cop a ban.

[Grimario]

Smith and Warner given 12 month bans.

All other kinds of fallout taking place too with players being stripped of sponsorship deals.

[hawk]

Warner Bannedcroft who cares. Smith should appeal. howzaaat

[belchardo]

that seems a little over the top to me. would have thought a test series was enough.

[hawk]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/how-does-australians-punishment-stack-up-to-previous-ball-tamperers-20180329-p4z6tv.html

ACB think they are so important and that we are bigger than the world so we get the harshest penalties.

Go away insignificant numpties

[Jetmaster]

Agree with Warne....now being treated like drug dealers in Bali at the airport. And also blamed for millions of corporate dollars lost. Too much too quickly.
Yet NRL boofs rape, pillage and take drugs for a slap on the wrist.

[The Dunster]

I did not see that coming, especially considering similar cases in the past resulted in a match ban and a small fine.
If
This shit is beyond ridiculous but will no doubt add up to a massive pay day for the media organisations running the game.

[The Dunster]

Joe Root runs his own cricket coaching school. :lulzturtle:

http://www.therootacademy.co.uk/

Where they will have you "playing like a pro".

[Grimario]

Lehman steps down.

[Jetmaster]

What a ferocious evening on Fox Sports News after I gave up on the Perth game. Two emotional pressers, Boof resigning from nowhere then the mayhem of the Warners arriving with Candice nearly collapsing in tears.
And now they say Sutherland is doing a presser in an hour.
This is more incredible than any movie.

[hawk]

What a ferocious evening on Fox Sports News after I gave up on the Perth game. Two emotional pressers, Boof resigning from nowhere then the mayhem of the Warners arriving with Candice nearly collapsing in tears.
And now they say Sutherland is doing a presser in an hour.
This is more incredible than any movie.

Worse thing since Nagasaki. Just kill everyone already.

btw i thought that this might happen some day. I'll accept my death penalty.

[hawk]

Bureaucrats got what they wanted, some tears. Tell them to stick it up their clackas Smithy

[Jetmaster]

Bureaucrats got what they wanted, some tears. Tell them to stick it up their clackas Smithy

Well he's gone back overseas with his missus for a break. Get a dual nationality son and come back with another country.

[plague]

geez it was lucky Warner had his kids with him so he didnt have to talk to the media. because im sure he would have been happy to talk otherwise.
except of course if he just sent the wife and kids out the much vaunted 'side door' at the airport that gets used often.
add to that Smiths crocodile tears. Although id be teary too if i just cost myself $5-6m over the next 12 months.


frauds, the lot of them.

[fozphantom]

Article below also deserves to be in the Hate Thugby League thread.
Puts the aussie sporting mentality into perspective. A ball got scuffed . Boo fkn hoo.

Whole fkn game's a farce. 20/20 ffs....the game on roids to stimulate interest.
As a mate correctly pointed out, it's only cheating if you get caught.
That hands down the pants shiz was dumb as they come. No intent to try to cover it up.
Zif the other turds (Eng-a-lund n the African Racists) aren't doing it or have done it.
glass houses etc etc.
Nobody's pinging India for the sh*t wickets they dish up series after series.
Shit loads of sand paper rubbing the ground there! :rof:

Hope the world cup is scandal free...or we can all go neck ourselves when sport is well and truly dead.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/comment-if-you-think-ball-tampering-is-our-national-sporting-shame-you-havent-met-matt-lodge/ar-AAvezYo?li=AAgfLCP&ocid=mailsignout#image=BBKMUZt|28

[The Dunster]

geez it was lucky Warner had his kids with him so he didnt have to talk to the media. because im sure he would have been happy to talk otherwise.
except of course if he just sent the wife and kids out the much vaunted 'side door' at the airport that gets used often.
add to that Smiths crocodile tears. Although id be teary too if i just cost myself $5-6m over the next 12 months.


frauds, the lot of them.

The ACB are the guilty ones for appointing someone as captain based on his batting average rather than ability to manage / control his players.

They tossed this kid into the captaincy role far too early and when it all fell apart they crucified him rather than accepted they made a mistake. The ACB are a disgrace.

[Jetmaster]

Read up on the "Peter Principle"....people are promoted to their level of incompetence.
Most managers in the workplace are there cos they are in the "circle", or are good at their current job. Rarely do they have the capability for the next level.

[hawk]

Article below also deserves to be in the Hate Thugby League thread.
Puts the aussie sporting mentality into perspective. A ball got scuffed . Boo fkn hoo.

Whole fkn game's a farce. 20/20 ffs....the game on roids to stimulate interest.
As a mate correctly pointed out, it's only cheating if you get caught.
That hands down the pants shiz was dumb as they come. No intent to try to cover it up.
Zif the other turds (Eng-a-lund n the African Racists) aren't doing it or have done it.
glass houses etc etc.
Nobody's pinging India for the sh*t wickets they dish up series after series.
Shit loads of sand paper rubbing the ground there! :rof:

Hope the world cup is scandal free...or we can all go neck ourselves when sport is well and truly dead.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/comment-if-you-think-ball-tampering-is-our-national-sporting-shame-you-havent-met-matt-lodge/ar-AAvezYo?li=AAgfLCP&ocid=mailsignout#image=BBKMUZt|28

Truth bombs and full perspective right there. Can you be under 30 and actually understand this? grubby league dickhead supporters get thrills out of cheering modern day bully crims. Yep we love assholes.

If I was Smith." Yep we played up a little too much there, so give me a fine and 2 match suspension and i'll see ya after my (painful) holiday in the Bahamas.

Dont give these journos a sookfest. Its not even near warranted. forget this "we're" much better crap.

feelgood apologist retard theory is a social blight.

[plague]

Channel 7 and Fox score the rights to all cricket from this summer onwards apparently.

gonna be so weird watching cricket without the familiar tones of Richie Benaud, Tony Greig and the lads on the telly.

[Jetmaster]

Great result..can watch test cricket without being hammered about the next series of The Block. Full HD goodness and on one channel.
Cheaparse sooks on social media dont understand the anti syphoning laws either. They can watch tennis.
BBL....couldnt give a toss anyway.

[Jetmaster]

Now this is just getting silly...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/did-twenty20-cricket-need-reworking-100-ball-matches/9679136?section=sport

[Jeterpool]

Now this is just getting silly...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/did-twenty20-cricket-need-reworking-100-ball-matches/9679136?section=sport

1 over slogs are where it'll end up.

[hawk]

Now this is just getting silly...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/did-twenty20-cricket-need-reworking-100-ball-matches/9679136?section=sport

More puss sports. Can no longer call it sport, its d grade entertainment and should be at the pretentious tv award nights.

Fox will add this to their already farcical "who cares sports" channels for next to nothing and pretend that people are watching.

[Macca]

Great result..can watch test cricket without being hammered about the next series of The Block. Full HD goodness and on one channel.
Cheaparse sooks on social media dont understand the anti syphoning laws either. They can watch tennis.
BBL....couldnt give a toss anyway.

Wrong there. You watched the Aus Open (tennis) any time in the last 5-10 years? Prepare to be hammered even more about absolute garbage shows that are the BIGGEST TV EVENT OF THIS YEAR. Seven have been pumping those cross promotions longer and harder than nine.

Commentary could actually be an upgrade if they find some decent speakers who are knowledgeable instead of the class of 99 Australian cricket team sitting round the barbie telling old tales.

[plague]

Wrong there. You watched the Aus Open (tennis) any time in the last 5-10 years? Prepare to be hammered even more about absolute garbage shows that are the BIGGEST TV EVENT OF THIS YEAR. Seven have been pumping those cross promotions longer and harder than nine.


I thinks hes talking about foxtel there.


Regardless, they gotta put Speedy on the test matches bloke will tap so much about ALL THE THIRD UMPIRE TECH

[Jetmaster]

I thinks hes talking about foxtel there.


Regardless, they gotta put Speedy on the test matches bloke will tap so much about ALL THE THIRD UMPIRE TECH

I was talking Fuxtel.

Speedy and the "Maccas DRS"!!!

[plague]

anyone who doesnt appreciate Kohli as the best batsman in the world doesnt know what they are talking about.

[MFKS]

anyone who doesnt appreciate Kohli as the best batsman in the world doesnt know what they are talking about.

He a damn fine batsmen that is no dispute but he is no 2 in the world

No 1 is playing grade cricket in Sydney at the moment

[plague]

No 1 is playing grade cricket in Sydney at the moment

Well he cant be that good if hes only playing grade cricket.

[MFKS]

Well he cant be that good if hes only playing grade cricket.

He is on a sabbatical until.April

Then he be back and with a point to prove

[q-money]

old downhill dave isn't a patch on the great V. Kohli

[MFKS]

old downhill dave isn't a patch on the great V. Kohli

Wasnt talking about Dave

Was talking about the bloke with the best average of all crickets bar Bradman

[plague]

Wasnt talking about Dave

Was talking about the bloke with the best average of all crickets bar Bradman

is this the bloke not good enough to get picked vs India this summer?

[The Dunster]

anyone who doesnt appreciate Kohli as the best batsman in the world doesnt know what they are talking about.

Edit: Just watched some videos of him in action - If Australia signed this bloke we'd probably start winning shit again.

[plague]

Edit: Just watched some videos of him in action - If Australia signed this bloke we'd probably start winning shit again.

funny part is, Kohli would prob fail Australias new 'character test' and not make the team.

he prob isnt 'elite honesty' enough

[pv4]

anyone who doesnt appreciate Kohli as the best batsman in the world doesnt know what they are talking about.

I rarely watch cricket, but watched Sunday night. He was great to watch, just making it look so easy. Meanwhile our batters couldn't even manage hitting a single six.

[Jetmaster]

I rarely watch cricket, but watched Sunday night. He was great to watch, just making it look so easy. Meanwhile our batters couldn't even manage hitting a single six.

Mate - that wasn't cricket, that was T20.

[MFKS]

Mate - that wasn't cricket, that was T20.

5 star post

[MFKS]

So serious question before Kohli and co embarass us the next 5 to 6 weeks

How bad is Aussie Cricket actually going when we have to name Tim Paine as the Test ****ing captain??

FFS he was not even first in line to the wicket keeping gig when Haddin gave up the gig

We had 2 blokes fail at it before he got a run