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Jeterpool
14-04-2022, 03:04 PM
A-League 2021/22 Match Day 21 Newcastle Jets v Melbourne Victory

FIXTURE FACTS

Overall – 50 fixtures between the two teams. Of this, the teams have met on 48 occasions in the A-League and on 2 occasions in the FFA Cup.
Jets Wins - 20, Victory Wins - 20, Drawn - 10


In Newcastle – 24 matches.
Jets Wins - 10, Victory Wins - 7, Drawn - 7
In Melbourne - 26 matches
Jets Wins - 10, Victory Wins - 13, Drawn - 3

Average Home A-League Crowd – 10721
Average Away A-League Crowd - 16300

Goals in Fixture
Jets – 66, Victory - 71
In Newcastle -
Jets – 36, Victory - 28

1st Goals in Fixture
Jets – 23, Victory - 24

Cards in Fixture
Jets - 95 (89 yellow, 6 red), Victory 91 (85 yellow, 6 red)

Last Result -
Newcastle Jets 2 (Yuel 57', Mikeltadze 70' pen) - Melbourne Victory 1 (Brimmer 45+2') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 9, Season 2021/22

Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2021/22 Match day 9

Newcastle JetsMelbourne Victory
Jack DuncanIvan Kevala
Dane InghamJason Geria
Jordan ElseyBrendan Hamill
Taylor ReganMatthew Spiranovic
Jason HoffmanJason Davidson
Mario ArquesLeigh Broxham
Kosta GrozosJoshua Brillante
Angus ThurgateJake Brimmer
Daniel PenhaMarco Rojas
Valentino YuelBen Folami
Beka MikeltadzeFrancesco Margiotta



FIXTURE RECORDS


Biggest Win

Jets 4 (Bridge 36’, Bridge 48’, Coveny 51’, J Griffiths 73’) – Victory 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 21, Season 2006/07, 19/01/2007.

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Victory 5 (Hernandez 41’, Thompson 50’, Allsopp 61’, Allsopp 64’, Brebner 90’), Round 3, Season 2008/09 at Telstra Dome, 29/08/2008.

Leading Scorers in fixture –


Jets - Joel Griffiths (5)
Victory - Archie Thompson (7)



2020/21 A-LEAGUE SEASON STATISTICS

NumberNameAppearancesStartsSubbed OnSubbed offMinutes PlayedGoalsAssistsYellow CardsRed Cards
1Jack Duncan17170015300020
2Dane Ingham18144413140110
3Jason Hoffman19172913120040
4Jordan Elsey19190017100030
5Ben Kantarovski000000000
6Matthew Jurman18180215470150
7Jordan O'Doherty147766880020
8Mario Arques117456270010
9Beka Mikeltadze181804158212230
10Olivier Boumal181621112684110
11Daniel Penha1919010153041041
13Brandon Wilson64233420100
14Mohamed Al-Taay92721970020
15Dylan Murnane1881077871220
16Kosta Grozos1441034420000
17Valentino Yuel178978775300
19Taylor Regan74333220001
20Michael Weier33002700000
21Savvas Siatravanis159697000130
23Eli Babalj101911551000
25Samuel Silvera1431124090010
26Archie Goodwin31211222000
27Lucas Mauragis52322140111
28Blake Archbold101090000
30Noah James000000000
32Angus Thurgate18180515535150
44Riley Warland61512470000



COACHING

Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
Arthur Papas - 1 win, Tony Popovic - 0 wins, 0 drawn

Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –

Arthur Papas - 1 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
Carl Robinson - 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Ernie Merrick - 8 matches (3 wins, 0 drawn, 5 defeats = 38% win ratio)
Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 defeats = 0% win ratio)
Scott Miller - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 defeat = 33% win ratio)
Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw, 1 defeat = 33% win ratio)
Clayton Zane – 1 match (0 wins, 1 drawn, 0 defeat = 0% win ratio)
Gary Van Egmond – 16 matches (10 wins, 2 drawn and 4 defeats = 63% win ratio)
Craig Deans - 2 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 1 defeat = 50% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 wins, 2 drawn, 3 defeats = 17% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos – 1 match (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 defeat = 0% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 defeat = 33% win ratio)

Melbourne Victory Coach Record – Tony Popovic 55% win ratio (12 wins, 5 drawn, 5 losses)

belchardo
14-04-2022, 03:35 PM
I'm predicting a return of the "not very good" jets team this weekend.

Jeterpool
14-04-2022, 04:03 PM
I'm predicting a return of the "not very good" jets team this weekend.

We have a week's break, we haven't travelled, Victory have played a lot of games in a condensed period of time so I expect rotation given they are all bu assured finals.

I think we will be competitive.

I predict Regan coming in for Jurman - otherwise it will be Warland.

I think Al-Taay will come in for Thurgate if it is Regan, otherwise I think Arques if it is Warland. I think Mauragis returns via the bench. The front 4 deserve to be kept together.



Duncan

Ingham - Elsey (c) - Regan - Hoffman

Wilson - Al-Taay

Siatravanis - Penha - Yuel

Griffeltadze

Bernabeu
14-04-2022, 04:15 PM
Griffeltadze

That's disrespectful to king Griffiths :roflz:

Jeterpool
14-04-2022, 04:28 PM
That's disrespectful to king Griffiths :roflz:

Firstly, it's Lord Griff.

And to be compared to Lord Griff is reserved for very few and this bloke is coming the closest to emulating him we've ever seen.

:rof:

Hunter403
16-04-2022, 08:53 PM
And here we go.....6 min in and behind

belchardo
16-04-2022, 09:12 PM
We're not playing badly but there's no spark.

boz-monaut
16-04-2022, 09:16 PM
we don't have that creative player- they tend to cost money though

Pappas has them going well with the limited resources

MFKS
16-04-2022, 09:17 PM
We're not playing badly but there's no spark.

30 mins in at home and we haven't had a serious shot bar some outside the box lash that was a million to one to go in

Your expectations are low if you think we are playing well

belchardo
16-04-2022, 09:34 PM
You want to read my post again? "Not badly" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "well". I don't think we're playing well, but I don't think we're playing badly either.

StannyCFCJET
16-04-2022, 09:39 PM
we don't have that creative player- they tend to cost money though

Pappas has them going well with the limited resources

Penha has 11 or 12 assists. Plenty creative,, needs more players to make runs

boz-monaut
16-04-2022, 10:07 PM
seriously what's the point of VAR if they're not going to call the game back for a penalty like that

clear push in the back

mic22
16-04-2022, 10:25 PM
we don't have that creative player- they tend to cost money though

Pappas has them going well with the limited resources

We have the best creative player in the league! Probably the best player overall: creativity is definitely not our problem.
I'm not watching the game but it seems he just made another assist...

Hunter403
16-04-2022, 10:37 PM
And yet again we lose it with less than 5 minutes to go. So Jets

samcan
16-04-2022, 10:38 PM
Melb fktards

The Dunster
16-04-2022, 10:46 PM
Simon Hill should kill himself for saying the ref had a good game.

If a push in the back that brings a player down isn't a penalty I'm not sure what is.

Once again Victory get help from VAR and a ref to win a game.

We weren't great tonight but neither were Victory.

MFKS
16-04-2022, 10:48 PM
And yet again we lose it with less than 5 minutes to go. So Jets

That would be 6 times this season we were either holding a draw or in front and lost by conceding in the last 10mins

When you are doing that it pretty obvious why we won't be playing Finals again

Contrast that with Adelaide who have got themselves 3 draws from being behind in the last 10 mins and 6 wins that were found from drawing positions in the last 10 mins

Says plenty about our ability to find the decisive edge when our defence crumbles so regularly at this crucial time

The Dunster
16-04-2022, 10:58 PM
Our defenders are poor defensively and absolutely shithouse playing the ball out from the back.

Can't fault the effort but we have a few players thatare state league standard at best - assuming Tasmania has a state league.

mge61
16-04-2022, 11:31 PM
The foul on Penha towards the end. I’ve only seen it at the ground but wasn’t it a near replica of the one he got a red card for in Perth. I might be wrong but VAR - Very Average Refereeing. Not saying he cost us the game I reckon a draw was a fair result but the couple of bigger more interesting calls once again went against us.

Jetmaster
17-04-2022, 12:25 AM
The sad thing about football now is the focus on just winning fouls. That added to the "softness" of a majority of players who milk it is just killing it. That was an ordinary game with both sides at fault.

Maito Mitch
17-04-2022, 01:45 PM
Good to see Boumal being his usual unpredictable self. He's either great or goes missing. Didn't provide much last night

If Arques can't get a start when Gus is out then surely he's not good enough to be kept around. We shouldn't be having a visa player as a third choice midfielder, I'm sure there's some local players around who deserve a chance

I don't think we missed Jurman. I didn't notice Waarland being completely honking so he did well in comparison. Any experience at the back we lost without Jurman was offset by no (or less) terrible turnovers. I think Elsey is getting better and better, he made some crucial interceptions and blocks and was stepping up into midfield to make some good interceptions a la Boogs. Bringing in an experienced defensive midfielder to sit in front of Elsey and a good young centre back is the way forward in the middle imo. Gus can push forward and Penha can just do Penha things. He's too good for us

Is Kanta still a footballer? Honestly what's going on there?

It's good to see Savaas getting better and better (slowly). I think he, Boumal and Yuel competing for the two wide positions isn't the worst. The front third definitely isn't the issue

If we can win our game in hand that we have over Macarthur we're only 4 points down on 6th. Two wins over Central Coast and then we have a game with Macarthur. We won't, but we can still quite realistically make the top 6. We're good enough to be there

380
17-04-2022, 02:17 PM
Agree with an earlier post that we are carrying too many players who are just NOT of a standard to be professional footballers, Players who give you one good performance and then lose a leg and play like bastard asses for weeks on end. I don't know any other club who would have the likes of Warland, Grozos and Ingham just to name a few yet somehow they can be in the starting line here. Its an issue across the league but we always with our limited budgets over the years seem to end up with more of these type of players than most other clubs.

What odds Penha is a smurf or running around for the drive by's next season ?. Club has gone awfully quite on that front.

Mark325
17-04-2022, 03:26 PM
This game really highlighted this teams two main struggles this season and others have already talked about them in this thread.

We give away games late and we have players that just aren’t up to standard.

We would be in the top 6 if you added up all the points we threw away in the final 10 minutes of a game.

You could also borderline make a starting XI out of players we have signed who aren’t qualified to be in this league. Murnane, Al-Taay, Grozos, Ingham, Warland and Babalj are all well below standard. Yet somehow, a majority of those players have all made 5 appearances and above, some like Ingham have appeared in most all of our games.

You can also add Arques and Savvas to that list in some way, would be average a league standard players but by international standards just don’t feel up to it.

Hopefully next season we can move on some of this lot and spend the off season recruiting some better young players to fill out our bench

mic22
17-04-2022, 06:31 PM
I think Arques hasn't been bad at all, some visa players need time to find their feet in the a league and he (ans Savvas to some extent) is doing exactly that. Choosing Grozos over him is Papas' fault.
Hoffman should not be in any starting 11.
I'd like to see Beka as a support for a 1st striker, he's been great in an attacking mid position (although he has a tendency to Petratos with the ball, but that's minor...). A front with Boumal, Penha and Beka behind a striker (Goodwin?) looks pretty promising.

Yes we have holes in the squad... but is Wellington much better? Conceding in the first and last 10 also comes down to poor preparation imo.

Big picture: we should be grateful we even have a team and we can enjoy some decent football in Newy...

Jeterpool
18-04-2022, 12:53 PM
That was Penha's 5th yellow card this season in our 21st match, which should mean he misses the next match for yellow card accumulation.

Any cards after this should mean the player needs to accumulate 8. However the document I read off the FFA website still had Hyundai A-League all over it so who the hell knows.