22/23 A-League Men | Match Day 05 | Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets

[Mark325]

Victory isn't off to a hot start this season but we looked bang average against the Wanderers so I'm quite unsure how this one is going to play out.

Elsey and Mikeltadze return to the starting squad and Sotirio gets the starting spot over Buhagair which is a good shout between the two

[My2BobsWorth]

Well done Mark, not much interest from the nerdy types

[Bremsstrahlung]

Well done Mark, not much interest from the nerdy types

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[The Hacker]

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Anyone else having dramas with paramount tonight

[Bremsstrahlung]

Surprised there wasn’t a red card.
Surely somebody called the ref a cheat after that.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Anyone else having dramas with paramount tonight

My parents had some issues last weekend with a grey screen?

I’m watching okay atm. (Given the usual levels of shit)

[Maito Mitch]

The refereeing in this league is becoming a joke. I try and ignore comments about a Melbourne/Sydney bias but how else do you explain decisions like that. And for VAR not to intervene. Wow

[Maito Mitch]

The worst thing is it's not a one off. It's every single week now. Almost every game is blighted by terrible refereeing. Maybe I've had too many beers ffs

[The Dunster]

Paramount link not working. Keeps going to live news. Fuk me paramount is a joke

[The Hacker]

Paramount link not working. Keeps going to live news. Fuk me paramount is a joke

I’m getting the same

[Bremsstrahlung]

The refereeing in this league is becoming a joke. I try and ignore comments about a Melbourne/Sydney bias but how else do you explain decisions like that. And for VAR not to intervene. Wow

I mean, there’s contact. But I think it’s an absolute joke that he basically jumps to the floor once he realises. As opposed to contact that impedes.

Hard for VAR to overturn. But also, would’ve been hard to give if ref ignored the diving piece of ManUre.

[Maito Mitch]

I mean, there’s contact. But I think it’s an absolute joke that he basically jumps to the floor once he realises. As opposed to contact that impedes.

Hard for VAR to overturn. But also, would’ve been hard to give if ref ignored the diving piece of ManUre.

Sure there's contact, I agree. But the fact he's taken a few steps and then dived shows it wasn't enough to bring him down. It was blatantly obvious he dived well after the contact. Maybe according to the rules it's the correct decision. But if so then the rules are wrong, that's a blight on the game.

Anyway. We're looking a lot sharper this week. Well and truly in the game.

[Hunter403]

Jets at their best right on half time. Lucky VAR helped 🙄

[The Dunster]

Blatant handball. Should have been given a yellow card.

Nanni is a disgrace. Hopefully karma strikes and he does an acl or similar.

Jets are trash.

[Maito Mitch]

Yeah don't think we're in it anymore. Hopefully we keep it under 7

[StannyCFCJET]

We seem to have given up. Annoying to see. A few things go against us and we stop attacking and just start booting the ball to no-one. That and the shocking defending will be ****ing hard for Papas to fix. Gonna cost him his job I think

[The Dunster]

Our defence is not capable of playing out from the back.

They are either passing across the back or receiving the ball facing their own goal.

Pappas needs to go to plan B because the opposition know we can't cope with a half decent press.

[mic22]

Great defending tonight. Jenkinson and Natta :sigh:
Playing bad football in general, 0 shots on target, 2538 back passes.

[StannyCFCJET]

Our defence is not capable of playing out from the back.

They are either passing across the back or receiving the ball facing their own goal.

Pappas needs to go to plan B because the opposition know we can't cope with a half decent press.

He will not. We knew what we were getting when we signed him. It either starts to work or it doesn't and he is gone end of thus season IMO

[The Dunster]

Popovic has a good record but geez his teams play an ugly brand of football.

[Maito Mitch]

He will not. We knew what we were getting when we signed him. It either starts to work or it doesn't and he is gone end of thus season IMO

Not sure you can blame the loss on Papas. Was he to blame for the penalty decision? For Jenkinson defending in a different postcode? For the great pass from Brimmer?

Sure we might need to change it up but the three goals ain't on him

Melbourne deserve the three points but we aren't as far off as 3-0 imo

[StannyCFCJET]

Not sure you can blame the loss on Papas. Was he to blame for the penalty decision? For Jenkinson defending in a different postcode? For the great pass from Brimmer?

Sure we might need to change it up but the three goals ain't on him

Melbourne deserve the three points but we aren't as far off as 3-0 imo

The defence being continually shit and not handling a press same as last year kinda is on him

[mic22]

Also so slow and predictable in the front 3rd, only playing safe passes

[Mark325]

It's crazy how badly this team misses Penha in attack.

We improved on a majority of the squad in all aspects but that one. Piscopo is presumably his replacement, or at least is the closest like for like, and he's a good footballer, about equal to Boumal last season with the potential to be better, but he lacks Penha's it factor.

[380]

The defence being continually shit and not handling a press same as last year kinda is on him

This, It was clear a couple of rounds in too last season defence was an issue and by seasons end there was no measurable improvement in that department so yeah Papas is accountable.

Never got the calls for Papas every time an A League gig came up and still don't. This crap about having worked for Ange means he must be some sort of hidden gem in waiting is just garbage. How many times did he tinker last season with the line up, How many times last season did we see useless like for like subs in particular our fullbacks. Never mind Papas and a plan B, He has no sound Plan A. Glorified Stubbins he is, Should stick to putting the cones out and head coaching to somebody who can.

All he got from Ange was talking a good game.

[StannyCFCJET]

This, It was clear a couple of rounds in too last season defence was an issue and by seasons end there was no measurable improvement in that department so yeah Papas is accountable.

Never got the calls for Papas every time an A League gig came up and still don't. This crap about having worked for Ange means he must be some sort of hidden gem in waiting is just garbage. How many times did he tinker last season with the line up, How many times last season did we see useless like for like subs in particular our fullbacks. Never mind Papas and a plan B, He has no sound Plan A. Glorified Stubbins he is, Should stick to putting the cones out and head coaching to somebody who can.

All he got from Ange was talking a good game.

Nah he is good, Buts needs a good defensive assistant

[Couscous]

Poor.

[Bremsstrahlung]

It's crazy how badly this team misses Penha in attack.

We improved on a majority of the squad in all aspects but that one. Piscopo is presumably his replacement, or at least is the closest like for like, and he's a good footballer, about equal to Boumal last season with the potential to be better, but he lacks Penha's it factor.

This.
I was watching us first half, and thought we look much better in that FB/wide midfielder area. Beka still up front.
Defence is marginally better without Jurman.

But yes, that natural creative flare of Penha is missing. Sure he was frustrating sometimes, but his high risk high reward go forward would suit this team imo. He has better cover in this squad.

On the whole, I think we aren’t too far off. Pen decision was soft and kind of killed off our spirit a bit. Then to let them score so soon after a half time Pap talk must have really taken the wind out cause the game essentially died there. We didn’t really look like we could get back into it.
Beka looks a bit isolated up front. He’s making plenty of runs in and around but when he gets it, he’s back to goal and has a defensive line to beat. He had one good chance I thought but wanted it on his left instead.

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[belchardo]

For the great pass from Brimmer?

How sexy was that pass? Everything great in football in one moment. Pity it was against us.

[Jetmaster]

Turned off after pen decision.....just watched mini. This all about the made for TV rules.

Just about given up.....see previous rant.

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[My2BobsWorth]

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It was nearly game time and no thread? Certain users have taken it upon themselves to start the game day threads, and then they don't. Fair warning, if the thread isn't up the day before, I will start it

[Hunter403]

Sick of the bots on this forum.

How rude!

[belchardo]

It was nearly game time and no thread? Certain users have taken it upon themselves to start the game day threads, and then they don't. Fair warning, if the thread isn't up the day before, I will start it

mate, start the thread whenever you want. we've all got lives - i'm sorry that JP has let you down in such a heinous way.

[Harrycripps]

Arthur Papas is a very good
coach
However as much as he wants to be Ange 2 he won't as long as he is told who to sign and who to play
Ange P is an arrogant person, just like Papas, but the difference is he is the boss, win or lose

[My2BobsWorth]

Haven't seen the game yet due to incompetence at Para, but maybe should change the club anthem to something from Lead Zeppelin

[StannyCFCJET]

Arthur Papas is a very good
coach
However as much as he wants to be Ange 2 he won't as long as he is told who to sign and who to play
Ange P is an arrogant person, just like Papas, but the difference is he is the boss, win or lose

Who is telling Arthur who to play? Agents?

[Bremsstrahlung]

It was nearly game time and no thread? Certain users have taken it upon themselves to start the game day threads, and then they don't. Fair warning, if the thread isn't up the day before, I will start it

Hope you don’t forget.

[Jeterpool]

It was nearly game time and no thread? Certain users have taken it upon themselves to start the game day threads, and then they don't. Fair warning, if the thread isn't up the day before, I will start it

Am I your "certain user"?

Because you're clearly mistaken if you think it's my job to put up a post each and every week. I do it when I can.... and this week I couldn't. You have no idea what's going on in people's lives. This a community, not a public service.

And since you're threatening that's you'll do it, I'll take your fair warning. Jobs yours.

[northern_swan]

Arthur Papas is a very good
coach
However as much as he wants to be Ange 2 he won't as long as he is told who to sign and who to play
Ange P is an arrogant person, just like Papas, but the difference is he is the boss, win or lose
:wanker:
Papas has had more of a free reign on signings & selections (within budget) than probably any other manager in the Jets history and all he has achieved is alienating coaching staff & local players from 13s up.
Ange may well be arrogant, but at least he has the track record to back it.

[My2BobsWorth]

Am I your "certain user"?

Because you're clearly mistaken if you think it's my job to put up a post each and every week. I do it when I can.... and this week I couldn't. You have no idea what's going on in people's lives. This a community, not a public service.

And since you're threatening that's you'll do it, I'll take your fair warning. Jobs yours.

Not having a go at you, if you can't do the usual stuff, you can't. What I'm saying is, if you can't get it done by the day before, I don't mind starting the thread and you can insert your stuff later. I like how some on here having a go at me for wanting a bit of order in the place,but it's the same ones as usual.

[380]

:wanker:
Papas has had more of a free reign on signings & selections (within budget) than probably any other manager in the Jets history and all he has achieved is alienating coaching staff & local players from 13s up.
Ange may well be arrogant, but at least he has the track record to back it.

True this, riding on the " i worked for Ange coat tails " has created some false aura around this bloke.

Anyways as a club we are probably at the point where our current ownership model of 4 other club owners have invested more than any potential R.O.I. Correct me if i am wrong but this is the third season the other 4 club owners have been propping us up ?. In which case and entirely IMO i bet a business case is being made at present to sell another license to a Wollongong or Canberra entity in order to maintain a 12 team competition and give our 4 owners the best opportunity to recoup as much as they possibly can. If the selling of a new license is the easier and more profitable route to take you can bet that will come under serious consideration.

[Couscous]

GVE faced massive constraints, working with some of the league's most dubious club owners.

But Papas has had a scant budget. Little point in freedom if you can't afford anyone.

[q-money]

righto gary

[Couscous]

If the selling of a new license is the easier and more profitable route to take you can bet that will come under serious consideration.

If the A-Leagues Men can't sustain a team in Newcastle, there's no hope in hell for a team in Wollongong. And probably no hope in Canberra.

It has to work in Newy. If not, the league will die.

[StannyCFCJET]

If the A-Leagues Men can't sustain a team in Newcastle, there's no hope in hell for a team in Wollongong. And probably no hope in Canberra.

It has to work in Newy. If not, the league will die.

Mate it's already dead in newcastle, Only the diehards remain and more and more drop off each season.

[Jetmaster]

Mate it's already dead in newcastle, Only the diehards remain and more and more drop off each season.

Cous is right - the sole reason the other clubs invested was because they need regional clubs to have a credible league - and Newcastle has form when successful.

No other regional club in Australia can work like Newcastle if successful - not one.

[StannyCFCJET]

Cous is right - the sole reason the other clubs invested was because they need regional clubs to have a credible league - and Newcastle has form when successful.

No other regional club in Australia can work like Newcastle if successful - not one.

If your meaning of successful is we win a few games, Crowds increase for a game or two until we then lose then they drop off massively again and only really turn up for a GF or finals game then sure, because that is what happened in 17/18 We were guaranteed finals 3-4 games out, Playing well then we lost a game and the last 2 or 3 games the crowds were pathetic once again.

Only way the Jerks sustain good crowds and community engagement consistently is if we win every week and never lose again because Newcastle only cares if we win

[380]

If the A-Leagues Men can't sustain a team in Newcastle, there's no hope in hell for a team in Wollongong. And probably no hope in Canberra.

It has to work in Newy. If not, the league will die.

Rubbish, Canberra or Wolves would draw twice as many through the gate than the Bulls or Western United currently do yet here we are they got a start. At the end of the day its all about the dollars not the geographical location.

There is a limit to what these 4 other club owners are going to tip in to keep us going. Any idea what W.U. or the cows had to pony up to get a start ?. Because if that figure is more than a sale price that can be attained for the Jets then you know how this goes ?. Money talks BS walks. Who is to say in the future the powers that be say if Newcastle are to have a team in the A League then that will have to happen through promotion n relegation.

You only hope this don't happen Gary so you don't have to relocate should you be successful in getting the coaching gig.

[Frodo]

If your meaning of successful is we win a few games, Crowds increase for a game or two until we then lose then they drop off massively again and only really turn up for a GF or finals game then sure, because that is what happened in 17/18 We were guaranteed finals 3-4 games out, Playing well then we lost a game and the last 2 or 3 games the crowds were pathetic once again.

Only way the Jerks sustain good crowds and community engagement consistently is if we win every week and never lose again because Newcastle only cares if we win


Incorrect.

As usual.

[StannyCFCJET]

Incorrect.

As usual.

How? Look at our team/club lets say last 5 or so years even longer. Crowds have been shit, Slightly pick up if we win a few then drop away as soon as we lose.

[Frodo]

How? Look at our team/club lets say last 5 or so years even longer. Crowds have been shit, Slightly pick up if we win a few then drop away as soon as we lose.

Considering we aren't a capital city, our crowds are fine. They just need to get away from that lifeless stadium so the team can actually notice anyone is there.

Our crowds are almost always more than CCM and Nix (the only other two non capital city teams) and so far are beating the new franchises too. We can't get the numbers Sydney and Melbourne does, but we should be trying to aim for Brisbane and Perth numbers if we can get the gameday experience better. Our stadium is way too big to be enjoyable, it feels so empty all tbe time.

[StannyCFCJET]

Considering we aren't a capital city, our crowds are fine. They just need to get away from that lifeless stadium so the team can actually notice anyone is there.

Our crowds are almost always more than CCM and Nix (the only other two non capital city teams) and so far are beating the new franchises too. We can't get the numbers Sydney and Melbourne does, but we should be trying to aim for Brisbane and Perth numbers if we can get the gameday experience better. Our stadium is way too big to be enjoyable, it feels so empty all tbe time.

I agree get away from this stadium 100% but we have no other alternatives sadly unless they are upgraded to A-League standard

[Jetmaster]

All sports are results based so it is obvious that form affects crowds - the Knights don't get what they did either. And the availability of live TV is very competitive - I see reduced crowds across all sports.

I recall times when we outdrew the Smurfs on a regular basis and one weekend when we outdrew said Knights by a couple of thousand. And what about 2007 when we went from a crowd of 4000 to over 20000 within weeks just based on a few wins? Fans are fickle and have lots of entertainment options now. It is sad to hear friends say they won't go "because it looks like it might rain", and watch it on TV - it isn't as important.

I do wish we could transplant Hindmarsh Stadium though. No2 is nowhere near A-League standard (but could be).

[MFKS]

All sports are results based so it is obvious that form affects crowds - the Knights don't get what they did either. And the availability of live TV is very competitive - I see reduced crowds across all sports.

I recall times when we outdrew the Smurfs on a regular basis and one weekend when we outdrew said Knights by a couple of thousand. And what about 2007 when we went from a crowd of 4000 to over 20000 within weeks just based on a few wins? Fans are fickle and have lots of entertainment options now. It is sad to hear friends say they won't go "because it looks like it might rain", and watch it on TV - it isn't as important.

I do wish we could transplant Hindmarsh Stadium though. No2 is nowhere near A-League standard (but could be).


Why do we say things are not A League standard??

The comp is a farce

We could play the games at Empire Park and no one would notice these days

I really wish we would just go play games at Magic Park or No2

**** the Prawn Sandwich Eaters off

[Spell Check]

Why do we say things are not A League standard??

The comp is a farce

We could play the games at Empire Park and no one would notice these days

I really wish we would just go play games at Magic Park or No2

**** the Prawn Sandwich Eaters off

What does the A League require in regard to stadium standard? Didn't Magic and Olympic recently hold FFA Cup games at No. 2 versus A League competition? Surely if its good enough for those games it is good enough for the A League.

A bigger issue might be that the Jets are locked into a contractual agreement with the Venues NSW for the Hunter Stadium. When the Martin Lee money dried up the Jets were in for a huge debt to the government so I would guess there has been some revised agreement which means the Jets are stuck at the HS for the foreseeable.

[Frodo]

Large crowds would solve all our issues, but I think aiming to find a financial situation that is sustainable for our core fans is the only way we guarantee long term success as a club.
If we can find a way to cover our costs when we have 7500 people, which is obviously away from Macdonald Jones, then we are sorted.

I think the only way to be sustainable as a league is for clubs to either own their own smaller stadium or have an exclusive deal at one. The NRL and AFL will always use their leverage to screw football teams.

[mic22]

The stadium is not a problem for me, I quite like it as a facility. If anything, the grass hills behind the goals should be improved as that would massively contribute to a better football atmosphere - with a decent tifo like any respectable team in a national league.

Stadium is not too big... the crowds are to small.

There is potential for 14-15k every game.

I mean, if the Knights have 20k regularly...

Hard to imagine a new 15k facility getting built in Newcastle. And the Jets owning a stadium... that's beyond any wild imagination!

[StannyCFCJET]

The stadium is not a problem for me, I quite like it as a facility. If anything, the grass hills behind the goals should be improved as that would massively contribute to a better football atmosphere - with a decent tifo like any respectable team in a national league.

Stadium is not too big... the crowds are to small.

There is potential for 14-15k every game.

I mean, if the Knights have 20k regularly...

Hard to imagine a new 15k facility getting built in Newcastle. And the Jets owning a stadium... that's beyond any wild imagination!

There is no potential for that every game, Because it only takes one loss and the crowds disappear again

[Frodo]

Stadium is not too big... the crowds are to small.

There is potential for 14-15k every game.


Not having a go or anything, but how do we get numbers up to 14k when the entire leagues averages are down. Even TV views are down to worrying levels. The product hasn't changed and the number of fans are pretty well set by now.

[mic22]

Not having a go or anything, but how do we get numbers up to $14k when the entire leagues averages are down. Even TV views are down to worrying levels. The product hasn't changed and the number of fans are pretty well set by now.

I'm not sure they are set. I see 14k as a potential, and yes to tap into it, the product should be better (in general, not just the Jets).
There were 14k just a few years ago for the first home game against Perth if I remember well - to be fair, there was a family offer with free tickets, but the interest is potentially there

[Jetmaster]

The stadium is not a problem for me, I quite like it as a facility. If anything, the grass hills behind the goals should be improved as that would massively contribute to a better football atmosphere - with a decent tifo like any respectable team in a national league.

Agree with this - the fact is we have packed that stadium out a number of times. It is a designated multipurpose stadium so we will always be pushed there and Con wanted us there from day one. If we had only had crowds of 3-4000 on a regular basis over the years you could look at a move, but we had 7000 plus at our first two games. Where else in the Hunter can you fit 7000?

I have often thought the obvious thing was to refurb those awful grass hills and close both top decks in the stands, making the crowd more compact. They did this for a Matildas game once and 15,000 looked great.

No2 is far too small - a capacity of only 5000 and 800 seats. Members expect more, prawn eaters, like myself, who put our hard earned into the club, won't sit on a grass hill either.

Either get a new boutique stadium or harden up and make do with what we have.

[Frodo]

Agree with this - the fact is we have packed that stadium out a number of times. It is a designated multipurpose stadium so we will always be pushed there and Con wanted us there from day one. If we had only had crowds of 3-4000 on a regular basis over the years you could look at a move, but we had 7000 plus at our first two games. Where else in the Hunter can you fit 7000?

I have often thought the obvious thing was to refurb those awful grass hills and close both top decks in the stands, making the crowd more compact. They did this for a Matildas game once and 15,000 looked great.

No2 is far too small - a capacity of only 5000 and 800 seats. Members expect more, prawn eaters, like myself, who put our hard earned into the club, won't sit on a grass hill either.

Either get a new boutique stadium or harden up and make do with what we have.

I don't think anyone is saying we have somewhere to move to right now, cause there obviously isn't.


But we are currently losing money, so we need to find an alternative. The TV deal is done and only going to get less the next time round, so there's no point relying on that to save anyone. So either we attract bigger crowds, or we cut costs. Personally I think we would have a better chance if we could afford to build our own 8000-12,000 seater stadium somewhere than we do increasing our average crowds to 14,000. But there's probably little chance of us both finding an owner willing to take on the club and get further into debt to try and save it, so realistically I think we should just enjoy it while it lasts.

[MFKS]

Large crowds would solve all our issues, but I think aiming to find a financial situation that is sustainable for our core fans is the only way we guarantee long term success as a club.
If we can find a way to cover our costs when we have 7500 people, which is obviously away from Macdonald Jones, then we are sorted.

I think the only way to be sustainable as a league is for clubs to either own their own smaller stadium or have an exclusive deal at one. The NRL and AFL will always use their leverage to screw football teams.

Precisely

Steal someone's ground around town and just take over and build it up

Get a couple of government grants into it and we can turn it into a stadium seating 8k in no time

After all it's little more than concrete and steel mainly

This is where we fail as if we were a "club" we would be looking to do this

Instead we are a franchise so it ain't on the agenda

That goose Lowy failed us all with his McFranchise League set up

[Spell Check]

I'm not sure they are set. I see 14k as a potential, and yes to tap into it, the product should be better (in general, not just the Jets).
There were 14k just a few years ago for the first home game against Perth if I remember well - to be fair, there was a family offer with free tickets, but the interest is potentially there

Sadly, you don't remember well - there was only 7k in attendance for the Perth game, which when you consider kids went free and it was the first match of the season is very low. The Jets would average 3-5k crowds over the past three seasons which means the atmosphere is always non existence. Looks really shit on TV as well, which doesn't make people want to attend.

[Spell Check]

Agree with this - the fact is we have packed that stadium out a number of times. It is a designated multipurpose stadium so we will always be pushed there and Con wanted us there from day one. If we had only had crowds of 3-4000 on a regular basis over the years you could look at a move, but we had 7000 plus at our first two games. Where else in the Hunter can you fit 7000?

I have often thought the obvious thing was to refurb those awful grass hills and close both top decks in the stands, making the crowd more compact. They did this for a Matildas game once and 15,000 looked great.

No2 is far too small - a capacity of only 5000 and 800 seats. Members expect more, prawn eaters, like myself, who put our hard earned into the club, won't sit on a grass hill either.

Either get a new boutique stadium or harden up and make do with what we have.

The idea of the Jets building a boutique stadium is crazy. The ends won't justify the means. We get crowds of less than 5000, so a No. 2 would be perfect. Jets could easily work with NC Council to install additional seating and all of a sudden the Jets are selling out every home game. Good atmosphere, looks good on TV, players buzz off it and want to be a part of it.

If we then see some success and get investment and the need arises, the case for a boutique stadium grows but it is nowhere near right now. Not even close.

[My2BobsWorth]

The Jets wouldn't build the stadium, the state gov and local council would, Lake Mac council would be good. Seems to be a stadium in every suburb in the big smoke.

[mic22]

Sadly, you don't remember well - there was only 7k in attendance for the Perth game, which when you consider kids went free and it was the first match of the season is very low.

Found the link:
https://www.ultimatealeague.com/match/?match_id=1725

Attendance was 14,833
Round 2, 2017/2018

[northern_swan]

If I remember correctly there was once a venue in the western suburbs of Newcastle.
It was privately owned.
I believe Rupert approved. He thought it were a “super” venue.
Then it went to the dogs.
Seems like it was all a big “con”

[turbojetfireV8]

looks like Dartsmelia's turn to wear a suit to sign autographs this week so obviously not in the squad....

[turbojetfireV8]

ah crap, Jenkinson's over there as well...