2023 NPL Mens

[Largesse]

The problem stems from lack of development in the youth system, to many clubs are focused on winning youth competitions over development and teaching kids to play good football. Wether it be clubs pushing for results or coaches not being able to check their egos at the door, teach the kids from the beginning how to play football and that should see more players capable of playing first grade and eventually a stronger competition.

The decoupling pushes the winning mentality further. Focus on development and lose your best to clubs coaching to win.

[Taffy]

As for the youth. I?m not sure that affects retention directly. But if a club can formulate a connection between JDL, youth and NPL seniors they will flourish. If there?s a pathway, if there?s a place within clubs for players stuck between the youth/first grade jump.

I agree, there needs to be more connection and clubs need a stronger culture. A lot of reasons why they don't including that each group tend to be run by sub-committees and don't have people looking over all of it to make a connection. I know some clubs invite their JDL teams in to be mascots for the 1st grade teams, others have 1st graders attend their youth training, which is probably a good way to bring about a connection and bring rapport. Of course clubs need to also not just think they need to win reserves, see some great players kicked out because they are 18 because the club wants to win reserves so will take 20-24yos rather than use it to give these young guns experience.



Playing 18s on the same day as seniors could help getting the families acquainted with senior football, players can sit bench for reserves, youth can come sit bench for 18s and experience seniors.
I also just think a bit of a bigger gameday would be a bit better bang for back for spectators. Clubs can take gate from the parents too (lol).

I don't really have an issue either way, but I don't think this is the solution, 18s not being on the same day has only just begun this year, but the problem it is meant to solve has been happening when 18s where on the same day, so clearly it isn't the solution or the change being the reason why players leave clubs.

[Taffy]

The decoupling pushes the winning mentality further. Focus on development and lose your best to clubs coaching to win.

This was happening anyway in a lot of clubs. Decoupling does hold clubs to account to develop better players and keep them and not just churn through them because they lose every week but go and grab a new lot of kids from NL1 and community telling them if they come they will play NPL. Those that don't want to develop players and just take whomever to fill teams will see them drop.

[sapdad]

The decoupling pushes the winning mentality further. Focus on development and lose your best to clubs coaching to win.

The clubs getting the best results in youth are generally playing the better football,especially in the 13/14 age group where the first crop of JDL kids are coming through.Winning is a by product of the work they have put in.Theres plenty of good football being played by teams that dont get the best results as well and id bet they will get the results in the long term if they stick with it.Id love to see clubs rewarded with incentives for JDL and youth kids to make it all the way through to grade.

[WOW2.0]

At Taffy...

I think clubs in general are not very good at community engagement anymore. From A-League downwards...the 'business' aspects of modern football also prevent this ingratiating into a club...pay for play is a cancer in many levels.

[The Magician]

At Taffy...

I think clubs in general are not very good at community engagement anymore. From A-League downwards...the 'business' aspects of modern football also prevent this ingratiating into a club...pay for play is a cancer in many levels.

Football in Australia is a pyramid scheme. What u call cancer, many clubs call survival.

[WOW2.0]

Pyramid schemes are illegal for a reason

Perhaps the model is wrong in the first place...other codes, and our community clubs, here manage to "survive" without charging a fortune to participate

[2ndclasscitizen]

CHUFC 4 - NL 3

Was 1-3 with 10min to go

[Two tone]

CHUFC 4 - NL 3


Was 1-3 with 10min to go

And who said the NPL was boring. NL had the game in the bag with 10 to go.

[fozphantom]

CHUFC 4 - NL 3

Was 1-3 with 10min to go

not 'hard' enough?

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Can anyone shed some light on the demise of Lakes? It is getting to a point where their credibility in the top flight must be in question.

[magician]

Can anyone shed some light on the demise of Lakes? It is getting to a point where their credibility in the top flight must be in question.

Next year if they don?t do anything then they will be relegated. It?s possibly the worst team in npl/first division history
Leaking over 4 goals a game is just awful

[Alton]

Typical NNSW turning a blind eye and letting clubs go further into trouble without any help

[Taffy]

Typical NNSW turning a blind eye and letting clubs go further into trouble without any help

How are Northern meant to help Lakes?

[ForeverRed]

How are Northern meant to help Lakes?
Exactly, not NNSWF problem

[Bremsstrahlung]

If they really want to help Lakes, they need to stop with this promotion relegation business, give them a decade where they can focus on all aspects of the club, youth development and improving facilities without fear of relegation. I’m sure they’ll be in a much better position.

[Hunter403]

If they really want to help Lakes, they need to stop with this promotion relegation business, give them a decade where they can focus on all aspects of the club, youth development and improving facilities without fear of relegation. I’m sure they’ll be in a much better position.

Please remove the tongue from your cheek! :roflz:

[Alton]

Please remove the tongue from your cheek! :roflz:
Their demise has been coming for a while now , like many clubs before them they will continue to slide down with no support from the governing body who should?ve noticed like the rest of us. The ivory tower needs proper ? club support ? personnel in place.

[Taffy]

If they really want to help Lakes, they need to stop with this promotion relegation business, give them a decade where they can focus on all aspects of the club, youth development and improving facilities without fear of relegation. I’m sure they’ll be in a much better position.

Hahahaha

[monz6]

Their demise has been coming for a while now , like many clubs before them they will continue to slide down with no support from the governing body who should?ve noticed like the rest of us. The ivory tower needs proper ? club support ? personnel in place.

Using this logic can you not say the governing body are doing a great job because Maitland is on a 10 game run, and they are also doing a mediocre job because Edgy have won half their games?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Their demise has been coming for a while now , like many clubs before them they will continue to slide down with no support from the governing body who should?ve noticed like the rest of us. The ivory tower needs proper ? club support ? personnel in place.

In all seriousness, what do you expect NNSWF to do?

Performance wise, there needs to be a loser, a winner, and a mix in between. At the moment they are a poor team, and have been for a number of years, but there has been no motivation to improve. You finish last and still turn up next year to NPL and reap the sponsorship bonuses of being in NPL.

NNSWF tried to help clubs. They thought that the pressures of promotion/relegation was preventing clubs from looking at the bigger picture and focussing on quick fixes of splashing cash for a year to avoid relegation and not really paying any attention to facilities or development of youth. So they axed relegation. Gave clubs the last 10 years to put programs in place, to set up their junior and youth pathways, implementing JDL, youth etc and taking some pressure off on field performance.
I’m sure NNSWF would’ve put out some kind of framework for the implementation of youth, JDL etc. But NNSW can’t choose who clubs employ or the direction clubs want to take.

We’ve seen Edgy reap the rewards of a decent coach and what youth can do with decent recruitment, scouting and coaching.
Most clubs have some kind of success story over the 10 years.
Eg. Charlestown performing well in NPL. But their youth is poor.
Cooks Hill and New Lambton have made the jump to NPL in recent years and are developing and adapting.
Even Olympics whose NPL is not quite where they would want to be, their youth is doing great.
Jaffas were once a NPL first grade only club, now their youth is top of youth championship.

The struggling clubs over the last 10 years have been Adamstown, Lake Macquarie and Valentine. And hopefully for their sake, Valentine look like they are turning a corner with some good youth performances and NPL mid table (maybe not mid, but not bottom).

While I don’t want to see any clubs in particular get relegated, it’s necessary to improve the competition and keep clubs accountable and also to give clubs in NL1 something to work towards.
Not all clubs have a good sponsorship income or location or club prestige. But each club needs to figure something out, need to find what works for them. Maybe it’s a long path Eg waiting for their JDL to come through to youth and NPL. Maybe it’s relying on your sponsors to fork out good $$$$ so you can get the best players to your club, if it’s sustainable, fair play. If it’s not, you’ll soon learn.

[ForeverRed]

In all seriousness, what do you expect NNSWF to do?

Performance wise, there needs to be a loser, a winner, and a mix in between. At the moment they are a poor team, and have been for a number of years, but there has been no motivation to improve. You finish last and still turn up next year to NPL and reap the sponsorship bonuses of being in NPL.

NNSWF tried to help clubs. They thought that the pressures of promotion/relegation was preventing clubs from looking at the bigger picture and focussing on quick fixes of splashing cash for a year to avoid relegation and not really paying any attention to facilities or development of youth. So they axed relegation. Gave clubs the last 10 years to put programs in place, to set up their junior and youth pathways, implementing JDL, youth etc and taking some pressure off on field performance.
I’m sure NNSWF would’ve put out some kind of framework for the implementation of youth, JDL etc. But NNSW can’t choose who clubs employ or the direction clubs want to take.

We’ve seen Edgy reap the rewards of a decent coach and what youth can do with decent recruitment, scouting and coaching.
Most clubs have some kind of success story over the 10 years.
Eg. Charlestown performing well in NPL. But their youth is poor.
Cooks Hill and New Lambton have made the jump to NPL in recent years and are developing and adapting.
Even Olympics whose NPL is not quite where they would want to be, their youth is doing great.
Jaffas were once a NPL first grade only club, now their youth is top of youth championship.

The struggling clubs over the last 10 years have been Adamstown, Lake Macquarie and Valentine. And hopefully for their sake, Valentine look like they are turning a corner with some good youth performances and NPL mid table (maybe not mid, but not bottom).

While I don’t want to see any clubs in particular get relegated, it’s necessary to improve the competition and keep clubs accountable and also to give clubs in NL1 something to work towards.
Not all clubs have a good sponsorship income or location or club prestige. But each club needs to figure something out, need to find what works for them. Maybe it’s a long path Eg waiting for their JDL to come through to youth and NPL. Maybe it’s relying on your sponsors to fork out good $$$$ so you can get the best players to your club, if it’s sustainable, fair play. If it’s not, you’ll soon learn.

Great comment mate, but you failed to address the teams they left behind when they ceased promotion, South Cardiff were and NPL club for 17 years and were extremely successful over that period, two grand final appearances and a few reserve grade premierships but ran last in the wrong year but we?re still competing, I think they had 20 plus points when relegated, I could be wrong, at the time of relegation they still held an NPL licence, handed out to those that worked on facilities etc etc, a licence that was a legal contract and NNSWF new that but disregarded the club, if it went to court NNSWF would have lost and promotion and relegation would have stayed but who could afford that, so after many years of hard work the club was left to wallow in second division with no light at the end of the tunnel, northern have a lot to answer for, finally their is light at the end of the tunnel and clubs can plan where they want to be or where they want to go.

[Hunter403]

Great comment mate, but you failed to address the teams they left behind when they ceased promotion, South Cardiff were and NPL club for 17 years and were extremely successful over that period, two grand final appearances and a few reserve grade premierships but ran last in the wrong year but we?re still competing, I think they had 20 plus points when relegated, I could be wrong, at the time of relegation they still held an NPL licence, handed out to those that worked on facilities etc etc, a licence that was a legal contract and NNSWF new that but disregarded the club, if it went to court NNSWF would have lost and promotion and relegation would have stayed but who could afford that, so after many years of hard work the club was left to wallow in second division with no light at the end of the tunnel, northern have a lot to answer for, finally their is light at the end of the tunnel and clubs can plan where they want to be or where they want to go.

If I recall correctly, weren't South broke when relegated?

[ForeverRed]

If I recall correctly, weren't South broke when relegated?
Far from it, not sure where you got that from and what it has to do with my post

[Eastwest]

So they axed relegation. Gave clubs the last 10 years to put programs in place, to set up their junior and youth pathways, implementing JDL, youth etc and taking some pressure off on field performance.

Another NNSW disgrace. Their arrogance and incompetence sent it all down the shute.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Great comment mate, but you failed to address the teams they left behind when they ceased promotion, South Cardiff were and NPL club for 17 years and were extremely successful over that period, two grand final appearances and a few reserve grade premierships but ran last in the wrong year but we?re still competing, I think they had 20 plus points when relegated, I could be wrong, at the time of relegation they still held an NPL licence, handed out to those that worked on facilities etc etc, a licence that was a legal contract and NNSWF new that but disregarded the club, if it went to court NNSWF would have lost and promotion and relegation would have stayed but who could afford that, so after many years of hard work the club was left to wallow in second division with no light at the end of the tunnel, northern have a lot to answer for, finally their is light at the end of the tunnel and clubs can plan where they want to be or where they want to go.

Yeh, possibly the worst year to finish last.
And as you say, went into the abyss of New FM with no return date in sight.
And least some other relegated clubs like Lakes, Valo, Azzurri all had the “play well next year and we go back up” as a means to retain players, coaches, supporters.
From memory that last season, they did struggle a little (still not as bad as some of the struggling we’ve seen over the last 10 years though).
Prior to that they were consistently top 4 in youth for like a 5-6 year period and transitioned a lot of those youth players into seniors and a 23s premiership and first grade appearances. There was definitely a lot to like there.

But yes, NNSWF really shut the door on them and other clubs that could have been striving for return to the NPL like, West Wallsend and Toronto or debut Belswans.



Anyway. Past is the past.
Hopefully we are back on the right path and successful clubs can be rewarded and those that have not been so successful can address those shortfalls and push for promotion the next season.

[anfield]

It's quite simple, There isn't enough players of NPL first grade level to have 12 clubs. There is always going to be someone struggling. Unfortunately for Lakes, it has been them for some time now.

[Blueboy]

It's quite simple, There isn't enough players of NPL first grade level to have 12 clubs. There is always going to be someone struggling. Unfortunately for Lakes, it has been them for some time now.

Watching the games this season, there?s not enough players of NPL first grade quality to fill 3 teams. The quality is terrible

[Hunter403]

Far from it, not sure where you got that from and what it has to do with my post

From sources on the club committee. What it as to do with your post is that one of the relegation issues was lack of money.

[ForeverRed]

From sources on the club committee. What it as to do with your post is that one of the relegation issues was lack of money.
From this you obviously no nothing, couldn?t be further from the truth, everyone got paid with coin to spare, the reason they were relegated was because they weren?t good enough in a very competitive era, unlike today, stop spreading rumours

[Zonal Marking]

From this you obviously no nothing, couldn?t be further from the truth, everyone got paid with coin to spare, the reason they were relegated was because they weren?t good enough in a very competitive era, unlike today, stop spreading rumours

Did the money completely dry up at Southy when they went down? Its a shame because as pointed out the likes of Azzurri, Valo & Lakes all managed to push their way back into the top division after going down. Just curious why Southy never managed to get back there despite from the outside looking in appearing to be a financially efficient and sustainable club?

[Taffy]

Did the money completely dry up at Southy when they went down? Its a shame because as pointed out the likes of Azzurri, Valo & Lakes all managed to push their way back into the top division after going down. Just curious why Southy never managed to get back there despite from the outside looking in appearing to be a financially efficient and sustainable club?

They never managed to get back there because promotion/relegation was ended.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Did the money completely dry up at Southy when they went down? Its a shame because as pointed out the likes of Azzurri, Valo & Lakes all managed to push their way back into the top division after going down. Just curious why Southy never managed to get back there despite from the outside looking in appearing to be a financially efficient and sustainable club?

Yeh. Taffy has responded.
But I said they all had the opportunity to get back up the following seasons. Southy did not.

I think the next year or 2 following relegation is a clubs best chance, otherwise a full rebuild is on the cards. Sponsors leave, players leave, supporters leave. The flow on effect of being relegated can end clubs. Conversely the aspirations of a club trying to be promoted can build that club.

[Alton]

Yeh. Taffy has responded
But I said they all had the opportunity to get back up the following seasons. Southy did not.

I think the next year or 2 following relegation is a clubs best chance, otherwise a full rebuild is on the cards. Sponsors leave, players leave, supporters leave. The flow on effect of being relegated can end clubs. Conversely the aspirations of a club trying to be promoted can build that club.

I remember watching Southy with mates when they were going good, they need the right people involved,coach and president to start with and they should be one club with junior club with a strong leader to bring it all together.

[boz-monaut]

Cooks Hill 1 Maitland 1

the winning run comes to an end

[chook]

Wow. The second tale of the tape does not lie. Ouch!

[2285]

I was at the game today, while Maitland missed a lot of opportunities they normally eat for breakfast in both halves credit has to go to Cooks Hill . I say this in respect for Cooks Hill defence… there back 4 scrambled well… Cookers dominated 30m out of 45m in second half .Maitland should have been up 3-0 1st half but missed there opportunities. CooksHill have some very decent players in there stocks and def a club to watch in the future

[BS detecor]

I remember watching Southy with mates when they were going good, they need the right people involved,coach and president to start with and they should be one club with junior club with a strong leader to bring it all together.

They have the right guy at the top now. Never seen a more passionate coach

[northern_swan]

I remember watching Southy with mates when they were going good, they need the right people involved,coach and president to start with and they should be one club with junior club with a strong leader to bring it all together.

Southy have good people involved right now. Coach with a program of developing youth, supportive committee & president. Community & NL1 clubs working together better than ever.

[Undertaker]

Southy have good people involved right now. Coach with a program of developing youth, supportive committee & president. Community & NL1 clubs working together better than ever.

Meh they?ll turn into an Adamstown. Produce youth players and once they hit first grade level other clubs will swoop in and grab them making them have to restart every 2-3 years

[Taffy]

Hopefully they don't turn into a Toronto with no youth teams.

[Undertaker]

Hopefully they don't turn into a Toronto with no youth teams.

So they don?t want to win first grade then? Yikes

[Bremsstrahlung]

So they don?t want to win first grade then? Yikes

One year doesn’t make a successful club. With respect, the last 10 years have been average at best. (Yes, there aren’t too many clubs with long term success in NL1). So, I’m not really sure many clubs will be taking your advice and following the Toronto blueprint just yet.

Credit where it is due. Toronto have put together a decent team for this season.
Good on Toronto, enjoy the successful season and I hope they can build on this moving forward. I don’t want any club to be unsuccessful. So hopefully this success will attract some youth players to the club that they can aim to develop.

[Undertaker]

One year doesn?t make a successful club. With respect, the last 10 years have been average at best. (Yes, there aren?t too many clubs with long term success in NL1). So, I?m not really sure many clubs will be taking your advice and following the Toronto blueprint just yet.

Credit where it is due. Toronto have put together a decent team for this season.
Good on Toronto, enjoy the successful season and I hope they can build on this moving forward. I don?t want any club to be unsuccessful. So hopefully this success will attract some youth players to the club that they can aim to develop.

Very long way to go for the club to be successful, this season is a small step. Nothing has been achieved yet. Jarrad Hiles and the lads have worked hard on and off the field to accomplish this. But as you said a long way to go. Youth will hopefully see that teams in the area can in fact be successful. I only said what I said as he had a dig at me for stating that South Cardiff promoting youth will only lead to them being poached by the bigger clubs which unfortunately happens every where.

[Alton]

Very long way to go for the club to be successful, this season is a small step. Nothing has been achieved yet. Jarrad Hiles and the lads have worked hard on and off the field to accomplish this. But as you said a long way to go. Youth will hopefully see that teams in the area can in fact be successful. I only said what I said as he had a dig at me for stating that South Cardiff promoting youth will only lead to them being poached by the bigger clubs which unfortunately happens every where.
This year unfortunately means not quite as much for the Stags as it would?ve if they had their full quota of teams as per federation guidelines. In saying the underage teams in NPL 2 does not work.

[The Postman]

What do you mean, doesn?t mean quite as much?!?

Absolutely dominating the Comp in 1st Grade with almost an entire starting 11 of Local players, Ressies with something like 8 wins on the trot and with former players as Coaches and Committee.

Yeah that must suck for that club!

Trust me, I used to love bagging the Stags. But come on, give the guys their flowers. After almost 20 years of poor on field performance and being in financial ruin off the field. It?s a miracle they are still even running.

Hopefully next year they pull together the Youth Teams and give it another strong push for Promotion. How ironic would it be the glamour Lake Mac club to come down and the underdog Stags go up!

[mge61]

Is this an NPL site.

[Undertaker]

Is this an NPL site.

Yeah we are talking about your 2026 NPL first grade winners

[Devon Sangas]

Been away for a few weeks. What have I missed?

Top half of the table looks tighter than a fish's arse. Who makes finals and who misses out?

Weekend prediction:

Adamstown 2 - 2 Cooks Hill

[djjones]

Hopefully they don't turn into a Toronto with no youth teams.
i keep hearing that stags youth come back to play seniors but wtf do they go before hand??
Why arent they sticking around? It does have a village feel where being a local is highly valued. So where are they? in jail?, smashing ice? other clubs?

They used to be quite strong right through juniors.Maybe the decoupled youth can get them keen again.

[Reds Forever]

Really hating the idea of no full round of games this weekend. Season was building nicely to entertaining end and having a break has dulled it. Would much prefer the State Cup final being played mid week like it has most of year.

[boz-monaut]

in today's only game
Adamstown 0 1 Cooks Hill

[Lofty]

Magic 2-0 Edgeworth

[Taffy]

The news everyone was expecting and now formally announced, New Lambton stressing over being relegated next year drops Tom Davies and appoints Shane Pryce. Think it is a bit disingenuous of the club to imply it was Tom's decision to spend time with his family when anyone within the NPL circles know it was a club decision to not keep him beyond this year.

[Alton]

The news everyone was expecting and now formally announced, New Lambton stressing over being relegated next year drops Tom Davies and appoints Shane Pryce. Think it is a bit disingenuous of the club to imply it was Tom's decision to spend time with his family when anyone within the NPL circles know it was a club decision to not keep him beyond this year.

It was inevitable that had to go with a big name coach, surely even the NL supporters know that, smart move NL

[ForeverRed]

They rang a few coaches, will their youth go by the wayside and the cheque book open

[jessepinkman]

They rang a few coaches, will their youth go by the wayside and the cheque book open

One would assume most clubs hiring a coach would contact more than one coach in that process.

[immersion]

The news everyone was expecting and now formally announced, New Lambton stressing over being relegated next year drops Tom Davies and appoints Shane Pryce. Think it is a bit disingenuous of the club to imply it was Tom's decision to spend time with his family when anyone within the NPL circles know it was a club decision to not keep him beyond this year.

That is an incredibly poor appointment. There was a reason the jaffas got rid of him after winning the grand final.

[gtg]

Here we go!

Hearing Maitland will be awarded an extra 3 points.

Valo had an dual registered player playing for them AND the Tenambit all age A grade side.

I'm hearing that Tenambit have already been stripped of their points and Valo will soon follow, resulting in Maitland winning and going top.

[Taffy]

Here we go!

Hearing Maitland will be awarded an extra 3 points.

Valo had an dual registered player playing for them AND the Tenambit all age A grade side.

I'm hearing that Tenambit have already been stripped of their points and Valo will soon follow, resulting in Maitland winning and going top.

Maitland beat Valentine though, and the first time the two teams matched the All Age comp hadn't started.

[Allday]

Here we go!

Hearing Maitland will be awarded an extra 3 points.

Valo had an dual registered player playing for them AND the Tenambit all age A grade side.

I'm hearing that Tenambit have already been stripped of their points and Valo will soon follow, resulting in Maitland winning and going top.

Isn?t it a coincidence that the Tenambit is full of ex players from Maitland and people involved directly to Maitland Football club.. hmmm

[la bazzle]

Isn?t it a coincidence that the Tenambit is full of ex players from Maitland and people involved directly to Maitland Football club.. hmmm

Yeah I?ve heard it would more likely impact edgy? Not sure where the Maitland thing has come from

[Hurricane]

I remember Valentine also beating Weston 1.0 in a midweek match . Could Weston now be awarded the points

[Zonal Marking]

I remember Valentine also beating Weston 1.0 in a midweek match . Could Weston now be awarded the points

Not completely NPL related but I swear Valo also beat Newcastle Croatia in a midweek match so only fair they are awarded an extra 3 points in their respective competition also.

[pv4]

I remember Valentine also beating Weston 1.0 in a midweek match . Could Weston now be awarded the points

This is the same NNSW that let Guy Bates play half a dozen games for Rosebuds without them registering him correctly, and didn't change any of the points related to it, right?

I don't know the full context of these situations but I still will never understand why clubs/players are the only ones at fault for incorrect registration, when in my eyes it still needs to be Northern and/or the associations that govern this. Clubs ask to register players, but it's NNSW and the associations that approve it. How does it get to days/weeks/months after the fact for NNSW and the associations to realise there was an error, then blame the clubs/players for it. It makes no sense to me.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Yehhh especially at NPL level, this is poor.

Surely we aren’t far off an electronic teamsheet and match record?
Registered players only, will appear in A drop down/search.
Match record lists goal scorers, yellow cards, red cards and substitutions.
Preliminary signed at ground. Copy sent to clubs for review and to flag any issues by COB Monday.

[Undertaker]

Yehhh especially at NPL level, this is poor.

Surely we aren’t far off an electronic teamsheet and match record?
Registered players only, will appear in A drop down/search.
Match record lists goal scorers, yellow cards, red cards and substitutions.
Preliminary signed at ground. Copy sent to clubs for review and to flag any issues by COB Monday.


Already have that with Squadi? Referees enter everything straight after the game so no club errors can be done other than the original team sheet online

[matjpacker]

Unfortunately, errors still occur with the digital process. Every week we have to contact NNSWF to have something corrected, whether it be the correct goal scorer, cards issued to incorrect players, even the scores being input incorrectly.

[pv4]

Yehhh especially at NPL level, this is poor.

Surely we aren’t far off an electronic teamsheet and match record?
Registered players only, will appear in A drop down/search.
Match record lists goal scorers, yellow cards, red cards and substitutions.
Preliminary signed at ground. Copy sent to clubs for review and to flag any issues by COB Monday.

Registered and eligible (not suspended) players appear. The system shouldn't allow anyone not eligible to play, be able to play. This needs to be entirely dictated by the governing body, and the responsibility shouldn't be on the clubs & players to chase these things up. Clubs & players should be allowed to play everyone they have registered unless notified otherwise.

Clubs & players shouldn't be held accountable for NNSW's inability to govern the competition, and especially shouldn't be punished after the fact when it is realised that NNSW have made errors with rego details, suspension information, etc.

Clubs & players pay subjectively a lot of money to play the game, and I'm under the belief that part of that money goes into NNSW and the associations running the game. Rather than the clubs & players being punished for an admin error that should have been picked up by the governing body, they should be getting refunds & apologies.

[Taffy]

Every week we have to contact NNSWF to have something corrected, whether it be the correct goal scorer, cards issued to incorrect players, even the scores being input incorrectly.

That's down to the refs not recording it correctly in Squadi

[Jardelsimage]

Unfortunately, errors still occur with the digital process. Every week we have to contact NNSWF to have something corrected, whether it be the correct goal scorer, cards issued to incorrect players, even the scores being input incorrectly.

that's a basic human/ref error entering data.

players registering twice, using the same FFA number can't happen, the system will not let you do it, so in the end, i think the player in question knew exactly what he was doing.

I am the registra of my club, so i know how it works and it works the same in ZPL as it does in NPL.

[The Postman]

Not sure how the Squadi system works but I?ve got a mate who plays very social basketball at Broadmeadow and they use GameDay still.

They have an iPad that before the game someone from each team activates the people playing, pretty sure they even have the option for player pictures too. Then during the game, the scorer can enter in points and fouls against each player. It?s even linked to the scoreboard for that court. And literally as soon as the game is over you can jump on the App and all the Stats are there!

Pretty cool system I thought!

[Thomas477]

That's down to the refs not recording it correctly in Squadi

That’s down to Squadi being a piece of shit and not up to the job

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions

Maitland 3 - 1 Olympic
New Lambton 1 - 2 Weston
Cooks Hill 2 - 2 Jaffas
Lakes 1 - 2 Valentine
Edgy 2 - 0 Rosebuds
Azzurri 2 - 1 Magic

[Allday]

Weekend predictions?
Final standing predictions?

[Taffy]

Tonight Valentine win

This weekend

Magic win
Azzurri-Edgy draw
Jaffas win
New Lambton win
Cooks Hill win
Maitland win

Which means top 5 are
Jaffas
Magic
Maitland
Azzurri
Weston


If Lakes could get a win tonight, how good would this bottom of the table match be this weekend, winner goes to relegation play-off loser goes to relegation. Much better than just a dead rubber that no one (and probably even some players) cares about

[ExWhistleMan]

Tonight Valentine win

This weekend

Magic win
Azzurri-Edgy draw
Jaffas win
New Lambton win
Cooks Hill win
Maitland win

Which means top 5 are
Jaffas
Magic
Maitland
Azzurri
Weston


If Lakes could get a win tonight, how good would this bottom of the table match be this weekend, winner goes to relegation play-off loser goes to relegation. Much better than just a dead rubber that no one (and probably even some players) cares about


*if there was promotion and relegation this year

[Taffy]

Well yes, that is what I mean.

[Devon Sangas]

Tonight Valentine win

This weekend

Magic win
Azzurri-Edgy draw
Jaffas win
New Lambton win
Cooks Hill win
Maitland win

Which means top 5 are
Jaffas
Magic
Maitland
Azzurri
Weston


If Lakes could get a win tonight, how good would this bottom of the table match be this weekend, winner goes to relegation play-off loser goes to relegation. Much better than just a dead rubber that no one (and probably even some players) cares about


Valo win tonight

This Weekend

Magic win
Lambton-Olympic draw
Azzurri win
New Lambton win
Cooks Hill-Weston draw
Maitland win

Top 5

Magic
Lambton
Azzurri
Maitland
Weston

[Cunning stunts]

Lets hope
Magic Draw/lose
Lambtom lose
Azzuri Draw/lose

Magpies win and claim top spot and the premiership :grin:

[Alton]

Lets hope
Magic Draw/lose
Lambtom lose
Azzuri Draw/lose

Magpies win and claim top spot and the premiership :grin:
No chance CS

[Bremsstrahlung]

Very tight and even comp. Great to see.
Lakes and New Lambton need some changes to avoid 2025 in NL1.

[Hunter403]

Very tight and even comp. Great to see.
Lakes and New Lambton need some changes to avoid 2025 in NL1.

Well NL have acted and brought in a long time NPL coach that will have his contacts and will likely bring a few old stagers, experienced players or whatever you want to call them.

[ForeverRed]

Well NL have acted and brought in a long time NPL coach that will have his contacts and will likely bring a few old stagers, experienced players or whatever you want to call them.
That won?t fit in with New Lambtons aggressive youth development program, oh wait there?s relegation .

[Hunter403]

That won?t fit in with New Lambtons aggressive youth development program, oh wait there?s relegation .

Pragmatism vs Idealism. I wonder what will win out?

[ForeverRed]

Someone has to come last, I just hope they have a red hot crack doing it

[Mad with football]

Top 3 having wins today keeps table the same but who was sent off for Jaffas as that will have an impact. both Weston & Maitland losing not good ! Will be an interesting finals for what it?s worth I think it will be a repeat of last years GF but I won?t be surprised if Magic make instead of Maitland
Reserve grade quite even all depends who is available but based on my observations ( watched every team most of them twice ! )-Jaffas are a good side and so is Olympic do think ressies be out of them 2 -thoughts !

[2ndclasscitizen]

CHUFC 2 - Weston 0

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Was that Lambton clown attempting to end the Olympic wingers career today? I would be shocked if northern did not come down hard on that challenge.

[2ndclasscitizen]

Was that Lambton clown attempting to end the Olympic wingers career today? I would be shocked if northern did not come down hard on that challenge.

The challenge in question: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv4eot1t_Y9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[Devon Sangas]

The challenge in question: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv4eot1t_Y9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Wowee that's a wild challenge! That might be more than a few weeks

[Lofty]

Wowee that's a wild challenge! That might be more than a few weeks

Next appearance will be mad Monday.

[Taffy]

That won?t fit in with New Lambtons aggressive youth development program, oh wait there?s relegation .

New Lambton despite talking about how they are making young locals into great footballers were happy to move on a lot of these for young players from other clubs

[samcan]

Was that Lambton clown attempting to end the Olympic wingers career today? I would be shocked if northern did not come down hard on that challenge.

Nah. winning the ball, barely any contact, player had a hissy fit. throw in

[Alton]

Nah. winning the ball, barely any contact, player had a hissy fit. throw in
It?s a 6 game suspension surely, one of the worst I have seen

[samcan]

https://www.bartvsports.com.au/football/npl-nnsw-round-4-lambton-jaffas-fc-v-lake-macquarie-city-fc/
1.28.41
not much difference, no cryfest

[Blueboy]

not much difference, no cryfest

Lol , yeah because those tackles are really similar 🤦*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️

[samcan]

Lol , yeah because those tackles are really similar ��*♂️��*♂️��*♂️��*♂️

listen to this cryhard lol. no idea

[Alton]

listen to this cryhard lol. no idea
If you think they are no different samcan you aren?t watching the same game

[Quare Caeruleum]

listen to this cryhard lol. no idea
Even his mother is telling him to cop the punishment, learn from it, and come back and do better next season. Not the early rounds of next season of course.

[Blueboy]

listen to this cryhard lol. no idea

Cryhard 🤦*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️. Wow you really are a clown .

[Blueboy]

not much difference, no cryfest

Looks like the judiciary think there is a big difference you cryhard

[The Hacker]

Looks like the judiciary think there is a big difference you cryhard

How long did he get

[Alton]

Looks like the judiciary think there is a big difference you cryhard
Sam Sam Sam, told ya

[Blueboy]

How long did he get

Piddo -3 weeks
Bradbury -5 weeks.
Surely the paper has that around the wrong way.

[2ndclasscitizen]

How long did he get

Three matches with Bradbery getting five for dissent/abuse + second red in a season: https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/hfFfwD

[JettyJet]

listen to this cryhard lol. no idea

This post and your other in the Jets youth thread indicate that you have no idea. Goose.

[Eastwest]

This post and your other in the Jets youth thread indicate that you have no idea. Goose.

Actually he is correct. You need to take a hike retard.

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Anyone defending the challenge has shit for brains. There is no place for that rubbish in local football, or any level of football as a matter of fact. End of story.

[Devon Sangas]

Weekend predictions

Magic 2 - 3 Azzurri
Maitland 1 - 2 Weston

[magician]

Magic 2 Azzurri 1
Maitland 3 Weston 2 after ET

[samcan]

Anyone defending the challenge has shit for brains. There is no place for that rubbish in local football, or any level of football as a matter of fact. End of story.

Hey son of a whore. If you could read it was a comparison of the challenge. Seem that you twats cry about certain clubs and defend your own.
Go back to the saos champ, :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Nah. winning the ball, barely any contact, player had a hissy fit. throw in

Can you explain what this refers to then bud?
I?m a neutral in this instance also champ.

[Mad with football]

Geez some of you blokes get very personal and make some ordinary comments about people -let?s get back to discussing local football in a civilised manner and enjoy the finals -predictions for me 1st grade GF winners Magic runner up Jaffas Reserve grade Olympic or Jaffas ( would have said Jaffas but suspensions in 1st grade may impact ) thoughts appreciated & try being a bit nicer to others

[Reds Forever]

Weston 2-0 win over Maitland.

Maitland must be disappointed with their limp exit today. Last years premiers with recruits such as Rhys Cooper and Damon Green added to squad was expected to challenge for Premiers and GF Winners.

On another note, Weston-Maitland derby is the most boring derby. Games never have any passion, spite or fire for a derby.

[Alton]

Weston 2-0 win over Maitland.


Maitland must be disappointed with their limp exit today. Last years premiers with recruits such as Rhys Cooper and Damon Green added to squad was expected to challenge for Premiers and GF Winners.

On another note, Weston-Maitland derby is the most boring derby. Games never have any passion, spite or fire for a derby.

Never any atmosphere at Cooks, too open, not compact, they should play pout of Robins Oval

[riverboy]

Weston 2-0 win over Maitland.

Maitland must be disappointed with their limp exit today. Last years premiers with recruits such as Rhys Cooper and Damon Green added to squad was expected to challenge for Premiers and GF Winners.

On another note, Weston-Maitland derby is the most boring derby. Games never have any passion, spite or fire for a derby.

Best derby is in the 3rd division Suns v Dudley. I guess in the NPL there is too much club hopping chasing money for players to understand a derby. No passion to play for 'Your Club'.

[Lofty]

Best derby is in the 3rd division Suns v Dudley. I guess in the NPL there is too much club hopping chasing money for players to understand a derby. No passion to play for 'Your Club'.

It was a great turnout yesterday for the match. Hard to beat ZPL football on days like that!

[Taffy]

Keep the ZPL discussions to your glorified pub league threads boys

[Lofty]

Keep the ZPL discussions to your glorified pub league threads boys

It was a great turnout yesterday for the match. Hard to beat NPL football on days like that!
Great win from the young Magic boys!

[Alton]

It was a great turnout yesterday for the match. Hard to beat NPL football on days like that!
Great win from the young Magic boys!
I overheard a former A League player going off at full time yesterday within earshot of a lot of youngsters

[Taffy]

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/8320998/lambton-jaffas-stars-five-game-ban-wiped-with-referees-support/?cs=305

[2ndclasscitizen]

Lambton Jaffas will have leading scorer Kale Bradbery free to play in the NPL men's finals after his five-game suspension for match official abuse was sensationally overturned with the support of the referee.

Bradbery, last year's grand final player of the match and sole goalscorer, was sent off for dissent in the 50th minute of the Jaffas' 1-0 final-round win over Newcastle Olympic which secured their second NPL premiership.

Northern NSW Football then hit Bradbery with the suspension, which the Jaffas appealed at a hearing on Wednesday night.

The Newcastle Herald understands Lambton produced statements from players from both teams to support their position about what Bradbery said to the referee.

It differed to the referee's version, but he ultimately backed Jaffas' stance at the hearing that the red card was a mistake.

"The referee supported our position that, upon reflection, the language used by Kale was not sufficiently offensive to warrant a straight red card," the Jaffas said in a statement.

"As a result the disciplinary committee upheld our appeal".

The decision means Bradbery, who scored in the premiership-clincher on August 13, will line-up for Jaffas against Broadmeadow in the major semi-final on Saturday at Edden Oval.

His suspension had included a three-game sanction on top of his automatic one-match ban for the send-off. The three-game set penalty covers "unsporting conduct" and "using offensive language and/or gestures" in NNSWF regulations. An additional game suspension came because it was his second red card of the year. The other was a second yellow, against Broadmeadow in round five, for dissent against the same referee.

Bradbery denied he swore before the most recent red card. He had reacted after his appeals for what seemed an obvious free kick for being held back were ignored.

Swearing was part of the referee's report and the charge was use of offensive language. However, the Herald understands the referee at the hearing believed the incident did not breach the threshold of offensive and he supported the overturning call.

Wednesday night's successful appeal, which cost Jaffas $1000 to lodge, is a major boost to the club's push for a first title double.

They had already lost defender Josh Piddington to suspension after he was sent off in the 14th minute of the win over Olympic for a dangerous challenge. The Bradbery send off left Jaffas with nine players on the pitch, although Olympic's Dylan Burston was also given a straight red a few minutes later.

Piddington, like Burston, was given a three-game ban.

Jaffas regain defensive utility Pat Bond from a two-game ban, but attacker Sakeel Balfour Brown is set to miss the grand final qualifier. He was also due to return from suspension but is overseas on a family matter.

Charlestown host Weston at Lisle Carr Oval on Sunday in the minor semi-final.

[WOW2.0]

Surprised the other suspension is only 3 games TBH...seems very light for what he did

[Alton]

So support for refs at judiciary is out the window, what a shambles.

[ForeverRed]

So support for refs at judiciary is out the window, what a shambles.
Sounds like the ref put his hand up and said he got it wrong, hardly a shambles, credit to him

[Devon Sangas]

Finals predictions

Jaffas 1 - 2 Magic
Azzurri 2 - 2 Weston (Azzurri on pens)

[Devon Sangas]

Jaffas too good on the day. Same with Azzurri today. Weston were a little underwhelming from what I had seen from them this year. Big game Magic v Azzurri next weekend

[Alton]

Jaffas too good on the day. Same with Azzurri today. Weston were a little underwhelming from what I had seen from them this year. Big game Magic v Azzurri next weekend
Magic need to bolster squad next year, desperately need an experienced holding midfielder.

[WOW2.0]

What a long finals series!!!

Top 4, H/A semis and a 1 off GF...would make things a lot more stream lined

[Imyourhero]

Agreed, or just the classic major/minor semi format.

[Stanley]

[QUOTE=Alton;269390]Magic need to bolster squad next year, desperately need an experienced holding midfielder.[/

Rumour has it they have a former international (Maso player) on the radar.

Contradicting herald article yesterday, 2 days ago the herald reported the young Magic keeper was being mentored by Ben McNamara, in yesterdays herald the keeper himself credits Clint Gosling for his good form. Someone is telling porkies.

[sapdad]

Has NNSW given any real reason why they have switched to a night GF this year and changed the format yet again to only mens 1st and reserves?I'll never understand why they changed it from a day grand final with 3 grades.The mix of supporters from all clubs as well as loads of youth players supporting the seniors made those days unreal.

[Taffy]

Has NNSW given any real reason why they have switched to a night GF this year and changed the format yet again to only mens 1st and reserves?I'll never understand why they changed it from a day grand final with 3 grades.The mix of supporters from all clubs as well as loads of youth players supporting the seniors made those days unreal.

Two grades are simple, the 18s are part of the PYL and not NPL, the PYL season hasn't even finished yet.

Don't see any reason why youth players (even down to the club's U9 players) can't come to the grand final.

[sapdad]

Two grades are simple, the 18s are part of the PYL and not NPL, the PYL season hasn't even finished yet.

Don't see any reason why youth players (even down to the club's U9 players) can't come to the grand final.

I was meaning adding womens to the day like last year,im aware of the 18s being part of youth.Dragging kids home from Edgy close to 9pm doesnt sound like fun.And before anyone jumps in I understand plenty of people come from Edgy to GF's in the city thats why the kickoff time was my issue and not the location.For the work Edgy has done to their ground plus their success over the last few years Im glad they are getting the GF there.The whole structure of the GF has changed quite often over the last few years thats why I was wondering if there was any reason for now changing it again.

[travellingman]

I was meaning adding womens to the day like last year,im aware of the 18s being part of youth.Dragging kids home from Edgy close to 9pm doesnt sound like fun.And before anyone jumps in I understand plenty of people come from Edgy to GF's in the city thats why the kickoff time was my issue and not the location.For the work Edgy has done to their ground plus their success over the last few years Im glad they are getting the GF there.The whole structure of the GF has changed quite often over the last few years thats why I was wondering if there was any reason for now changing it again.

Maybe it is because the PYL hasn't finished and will be playing on that day. They decided put the GF on at night to allow those players to go and watch or maybe some 18's could be required on the bench after their game.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Agree the grand final days of yesteryear were a great time.

I generally feel gamedays were better with 18s, reserve and first grade. Usually a healthy crowd builds over the day.
Ditto for the grand final. Sunny Sunday at Magic Park, some great memories. The lesser grades celebrating or drowning their sorrows.

[Taffy]

Plenty of people on here complained about grand finals for the "lesser" grades being held at NPL grounds. Seems Northern can't make everyone happy

[Lofty]

Who wants to go out to Edgeworth to watch grand finals? They've made it a night game which takes the family friendliness out of it.
So now it's a night time slot on a Saturday, perfect to enjoy some beers right? But wait, lets take it where it's really hard for the majority of people to get to without driving..

[Taffy]

Personally I think the first team to qualify (i.e. who wins Semi Final-1) should always get first right to host if they are able to. This year that would mean Arthur Edden

[Hurricane]

Personally I think the first team to qualify (i.e. who wins Semi Final-1) should always get first right to host if they are able to. This year that would mean Arthur Edden

Minor Premier should get to host the gf. So it would still be at Arthur Edden

[Reds Forever]

No issues with who is hosting. Just think they have got the men's and women's the wrong way around. Women's should be Saturday at Magic followed by the men's on Sunday afternoon at Edgeworth.

[northern_swan]

No issues with who is hosting. Just think they have got the men's and women's the wrong way around. Women's should be Saturday at Magic followed by the men's on Sunday afternoon at Edgeworth.

Especially with the RL on at the stadium at 4pm.

going to be hectic around Magic Park Sunday arvo

[Oldjaffa]

Certainly won't be hectic around the canteen with $8 cans of mid strength beer.

[Eastwest]

No issues with who is hosting. Just think they have got the men's and women's the wrong way around. Women's should be Saturday at Magic followed by the men's on Sunday afternoon at Edgeworth.

Wth does that matter?

[Devon Sangas]

Grand Final prediction

Lambton 3 - 2 Magic

1 red card each

[Zonal Marking]

Thankfully Northern saw sense and are playing the Mens & Womens finals as stand alone fixtures on different days this year. Was ridiculous having the mens match as a curtain raiser before the womens last year. Both matches and competitions are prestigious enough to deserve their own day.

[ForeverRed]

Another poor decision by the ref effecting the outcome to the GF,

[ForeverRed]

Go the soft centres

[The Hacker]

Another poor decision by the ref effecting the outcome to the GF,

Absolutely shocking call. Ruined what was a good contest. 2 years in a row the ref makes it about them.
Edgy was in awesome condition makes playing football easier and good to watch a game from

[Stanley]

Another poor decision by the ref effecting the outcome to the GF,

What decision are you taking about, there was so many.

[magician]

What decision are you taking about, there was so many.

If that bloke is the best ref we have got then we are in serious trouble

[WOW2.0]

Was the final Jaffas goal offside...couldn't see on the angle on BarTV?

[Alton]

If that bloke is the best ref we have got then we are in serious trouble

As a lower comp player I couldn?t believe how bad the ref was, it made me realise just how bad ours must be in zone league, field looked great

[JustMe]

Was the final Jaffas goal offside...couldn't see on the angle on BarTV?

nah.

The penalty decision was a joke. Should be 100 pens next round if strikers can throw themselves at the keeper and go down crying :lol:

[ForeverRed]

Was the final Jaffas goal offside...couldn't see on the angle on BarTV?
No idea but the keeper will be having nightmares for weeks letting that one in

[MFKS]

No idea but the keeper will be having nightmares for weeks letting that one in

Literally cost his team the comp

[Stanley]

nah.

The penalty decision was a joke. Should be 100 pens next round if strikers can throw themselves at the keeper and go down crying :lol:

Agree, was not a penalty. Goalkeeper got to the ball first and was are well within his right to punch the ball out.

[The Hacker]

With the Women?s Grand final having 2200 and the Men?s 1800 people show up should be a good indication that the time slot and venue was a fail for the Men?s GF.

[Lofty]

With the Women?s Grand final having 2200 and the Men?s 1800 people show up should be a good indication that the time slot and venue was a fail for the Men?s GF.

Absolutely. The pitch looked great at Edgy, but the only problem is that it's in Edgeworth. Far too inaccessible for the majority of people who would want to go to the game. The women's game also pulled that crowd while clashing with 30k next door. Many more would have gone if that game wasn't on.

[Taffy]

How many people are catching buses and trains to a grand final?

[MFKS]

What's wrong with 2-3pm kick off on a Sunday arvo

Worked well 10 years ago when it was the last game of the season for NNSW

All the teams had finished up in all comps

Used to get 4k at Magic Park in those days

[The Magician]

What's wrong with 2-3pm kick off on a Sunday arvo

Worked well 10 years ago when it was the last game of the season for NNSW

All the teams had finished up in all comps

Used to get 4k at Magic Park in those days

4800 at Magic vs Olympic @ Magic Park

[sapdad]

4800 at Magic vs Olympic @ Magic Park

Not only the crowd but that but such a well organised day.Why they ever went away from that concept is baffling.In the future id love to see similar days at Jaffas/Darling St/Rosebuds.Hopefully some homework is done before making decisions for next year we should be doing better than 2000 for our premier day.

[Reds Forever]

WNPL crowd figure would be total across the day. Having 5 games would help when you consider number of parents, relatives, friends and other teams that come and watch the younger girls.

How good would it be to have mens Grand Final feature U13 through to 1st grade.

[Zico]

Not only the crowd but that but such a well organised day.Why they ever went away from that concept is baffling.In the future id love to see similar days at Jaffas/Darling St/Rosebuds.Hopefully some homework is done before making decisions for next year we should be doing better than 2000 for our premier day.

The location isn?t the problem. Having lower division finals and PYL games on the same day as the Grand Final is crazy.
It should be a stand alone final game of the season. Start the season later if needed but ensure that there is no other football on that day.

[Taffy]

How good would it be to have mens Grand Final feature U13 through to 1st grade.

Can't wait for people to complain about the 9pm kick off time for the grand final


It should be a stand alone final game of the season. Start the season later if needed but ensure that there is no other football on that day.

Had people complain about there only being Reserves and 1sts being played, never mind 1st grade being the only game for the day

[Jardelsimage]

The location isn?t the problem. Having lower division finals and PYL games on the same day as the Grand Final is crazy.
It should be a stand alone final game of the season. Start the season later if needed but ensure that there is no other football on that day.

Correct, the NPL GF should be the final of football in Newy, maybe WPL on the saturday and NPL on Sunday.

[namwob99]

No matter what they do or where they have it etc somebody is gonna be upset and have a 'better' idea.

[Zico]

Can't wait for people to complain about the 9pm kick off time for the grand final



Had people complain about there only being Reserves and 1sts being played, never mind 1st grade being the only game for the day

Still have both NPL Res & Firsts but on a stand alone day.

[sapdad]

The location isn?t the problem. Having lower division finals and PYL games on the same day as the Grand Final is crazy.
It should be a stand alone final game of the season. Start the season later if needed but ensure that there is no other football on that day.

As I said I had no problem with it being at Edgeworth,only the kickoff time.I suggested the other grounds because if NNSW want to share it around then those are the best venues (as well as Edgeworth and hopefully/eventually a revamped Lake Mac oval).Agree as well it should be a standalone day on the final day of football in the region.With those grounds not being shared by other sports going a week or 2 later shouldnt matter.

[JustMe]

No2 ground was good. Magic, Adamstown would be my best pics for GFs due to good views and central location.

Edgy isnt too far away, surprised by lack of numbers. I bet a few got in for free like last year that werent counted

[anfield]

The location isn?t the problem. Having lower division finals and PYL games on the same day as the Grand Final is crazy.
It should be a stand alone final game of the season. Start the season later if needed but ensure that there is no other football on that day.

I agree the NPL grand final should be the last game of the year in the region. It's weird that the Zone league competitions still have 2 weekends to play.

I think the suggestion of Sunday afternoon GF is a good one. But would not have worked this year with the Knights playing at the same time.

[Devon Sangas]

GF should be a Saturday afternoon 3pm kick off at any ground that is in good condition and is relatively easy to access. Magic, Darling St, Rosebuds, Edgy, even Arthur Edden would all do a fine job.

Is it time to predict team of the year and player off the year?

[pv4]

Absolutely. The pitch looked great at Edgy, but the only problem is that it's in Edgeworth. Far too inaccessible for the majority of people who would want to go to the game.

I am one of the biggest supporters that the NPL Grand Final should be at Magic and be the last game of the NNSW calendar.. however I do have to point out that it feels like calling Edgeworth far too inaccessible for the majority of people is such a bad take.

[Hunter403]

Absolutely. The pitch looked great at Edgy, but the only problem is that it's in Edgeworth. Far too inaccessible for the majority of people who would want to go to the game. The women's game also pulled that crowd while clashing with 30k next door. Many more would have gone if that game wasn't on.

Really? Take a look at a map. Take into account that NNSW NPL includes the lower Hunter area and then Edgeworth is more central than most. It is just off the link road and close to the larger dormitory suburbs such as Cameron Park, Maryland, Fletcher. It is a freeway run from the growing areas of Maitland. I'd argue that it is more accessible to for the region than most.
Now in saying that, I don't want it to become the home of finals football. The joy ($ windfall) should be spread around.

[Jardelsimage]

Really? Take a look at a map. Take into account that NNSW NPL includes the lower Hunter area and then Edgeworth is more central than most. It is just off the link road and close to the larger dormitory suburbs such as Cameron Park, Maryland, Fletcher. It is a freeway run from the growing areas of Maitland. I'd argue that it is more accessible to for the region than most.
Now in saying that, I don't want it to become the home of finals football. The joy ($ windfall) should be spread around.

What should happen is Northern should build their own mini stadium (IE: should have taken lakes over when they built that shit hole at Speers Point) and play Finals etc there, that way no-one gets a boost of income, neutral ground etc

[Lofty]

Really? Take a look at a map. Take into account that NNSW NPL includes the lower Hunter area and then Edgeworth is more central than most. It is just off the link road and close to the larger dormitory suburbs such as Cameron Park, Maryland, Fletcher. It is a freeway run from the growing areas of Maitland. I'd argue that it is more accessible to for the region than most.
Now in saying that, I don't want it to become the home of finals football. The joy ($ windfall) should be spread around.

Yes I've seen maps of Newcastle. So if Edgeworth is so accessible to everyone, is that why there was such a bumper crowd? Were the dormants of Cameron Park, Maryland and Fletcher there in droves?
The weather was perfect, no other football on at the time, four popular, well supported clubs (Edgeworth, Olympic, Lambton and Magic) featured including one being the host club on the day.

Can you honestly say that Edgeworth hosting would have pulled bigger numbers than it being hosted at No 2, Adamstown Oval or even Arthur Edden?

[Hunter403]

Yes I've seen maps of Newcastle. So if Edgeworth is so accessible to everyone, is that why there was such a bumper crowd? Were the dormants of Cameron Park, Maryland and Fletcher there in droves?
The weather was perfect, no other football on at the time, four popular, well supported clubs (Edgeworth, Olympic, Lambton and Magic) featured including one being the host club on the day.

Can you honestly say that Edgeworth hosting would have pulled bigger numbers than it being hosted at No 2, Adamstown Oval or even Arthur Edden?

Mate, not commenting on the crowd. Just saying that you are dead wrong on Edgy being inaccessible.

As to why the crowd was poor; I reckon most people in the region are more interested in the Knights at the moment and that the crowd would have been similar anywhere. I thought the promotion of the game by NNSW could have been better.

[Lofty]

Mate, not commenting on the crowd. Just saying that you are dead wrong on Edgy being inaccessible.

As to why the crowd was poor; I reckon most people in the region are more interested in the Knights at the moment and that the crowd would have been similar anywhere. I thought the promotion of the game by NNSW could have been better.

That's all well and good, but we can only really comment on the facts and they are that both the mens and womens grand finals had very similar crowd numbers.
And boy am I glad you brought up the Knights, because they actually played the same time as the womens final.
I just wonder if the womens game being closer to town than the mens game was the reason for similar crowd numbers despite the womens having the massive hurdle of nearly half of Newcastle wanting to watch the Knights game.

[WOW2.0]

I guess we can only look anecdotally...for me, I didn't go. Factors: it was late and my son had to play in the morning and he decided at the last minute he didn't want to go but would rather rest (Do feel Edgeworth was a bit "out of the way" for a night game...

Otherwise we'd have loved to go...and we habitually go to NPL games at various grounds, and for various teams

[riverboy]

NNSW Football are so out of touch with the majority of football players, That is community football players.

Community Football doesn't have the same access to the facilities at speers point. The first question they ask you if you want to hire the courts is what club are you with. If the answer is a Community Football club then forget it.

Engage with the football community then the football community might support it instead of just taking their money.

[W8 WATCHER]

NNSW Football are so out of touch with the majority of football players, That is community football players.

Community Football doesn't have the same access to the facilities at speers point. The first question they ask you if you want to hire the courts is what club are you with. If the answer is a Community Football club then forget it.

Engage with the football community then the football community might support it instead of just taking their money.

never trust anyone that wears a tweed jacket!

[Mad with football]

What are you all hearing on player merry go round movement? I have heard Maitland chasing several of Azzurri?s best players and throwing plenty $$ at them ? Keen to hear other news

[Taffy]

Heard Lakes have appointed a new coach from Sydney bringing a few NPL2 players with him

[WOW2.0]

The drive to keep clubs up will be a good thing I hope...as long as they don't "close the shop" again

[Doopche]

I?ve heard Olympic have sold a fish and chip shop to pay for the players they want next season.

[The Magician]

I?ve heard Olympic have sold a fish and chip shop to pay for the players they want next season.

3 fish and chip shops.... But what do you expect... the Drachma has no value anymore

[Beppe]

I?ve heard Olympic have sold a fish and chip shop to pay for the players they want next season.

ive heard magic have had to open the checkbook to keep their midfielder because jaffas made a sizeable offer, better sell more kebabis

[Doopche]

ive heard magic have had to open the checkbook to keep their midfielder because jaffas made a sizeable offer, better sell more kebabis

What?s a checkbook? Is that when you open a book to check if the pages are in it?

[Beppe]

What?s a checkbook? Is that when you open a book to check if the pages are in it?

:rof:brilliant

[Retired01]

Sorry showing may age . Cheque Book Its not for checking things!

[Taffy]

Lakes announce new head coach Peter Preston from Central Coast. Seems my info of him being a Sydney based coach was wrong.

[JettyJet]

Does the guy have any clue about Newcastle Football?

[username2345]

Olympic have more chance if they wind back the clock with zuccon or someone with passion not these money hungry players who would play for anyone
Bit of loyalty or passion

[The Bear]

Does the guy have any clue about Newcastle Football?

Does he need to? Ange doing okay in the EPL not having managed there before. If the guy is good he?ll be good enough anywhere.

[JettyJet]

Does he need to? Ange doing okay in the EPL not having managed there before. If the guy is good he?ll be good enough anywhere.

I'm not sure how good he is.
And a professional Manager like Ange with a whole club of supports staff with knowledge and participating in the most popular and watched league in the world is hardly a comparison.
Maybe he has watched it on Bar TV.

[The Bear]

I'm not sure how good he is.
And a professional Manager like Ange with a whole club of supports staff with knowledge and participating in the most popular and watched league in the world is hardly a comparison.
Maybe he has watched it on Bar TV.

You said ? Does the guy have any clue about Newcastle Football?? like that is important. It?s not.

[Wild Brew]

Olympic have more chance if they wind back the clock with zuccon or someone with passion not these money hungry players who would play for anyone
Bit of loyalty or passion
Who have Olympic bought?

[JettyJet]

You said ? Does the guy have any clue about Newcastle Football?? like that is important. It?s not.

I think it is. So we disagree.

[The Magician]

The Jets are running Lakes now from behind the scenes, if you have any fringe First Graders aged 20 years or under in 2024 assume that they have already been contacted to join Lakes and get back into "the System"...

[The Bear]

I think it is. So we disagree.

Why it is important?

[JettyJet]

Why it is important?

Newcastle is a very unique football landscape, much like Wollongong. 50% deluded, 20% old men's club, 30% tribalism. You need to have some understanding of all that.

[The Bear]

Newcastle is a very unique football landscape, much like Wollongong. 50% deluded, 20% old men's club, 30% tribalism. You need to have some understanding of all that.

If you think that is unique to only Newcastle and Wollongong then you are an optimist.

[straightred88]

Lakes announcing a lot of new signings, seems the new coach and club are clearing out some dead wood.

[MFKS]

Lakes announcing a lot of new signings, seems the new coach and club are clearing out some dead wood.

Who are the new signings and the departures ??

[Taffy]

Most of the signings they have announced are current players, one of the signings for the new player is the coaches son, another two are from CCU

[JettyJet]

Two are the Coaches son, well they have the same last name!! Both played CCU and CCM. One is from CCU and CCM, Another Broadmeadow from CCM and Jets. Signing current (good) players should be the priority for all clubs.

[magician]

Piddo to New Lambton
Very surprising that

[ForeverRed]

Piddo to New Lambton
Very surprising that
Heard NL offered piddo, papas and bradbery crazy crazy money if true

[Zonal Marking]

Heard NL offered piddo, papas and bradbery crazy crazy money if true

Not knocking the guys because I would probably be doing the same thing but loyalty to clubs really is a rarity in this day and age. Money nearly always wins out in the end.

[ForeverRed]

Not knocking the guys because I would probably be doing the same thing but loyalty to clubs really is a rarity in this day and age. Money nearly always wins out in the end.

I?d take every cent and go from club to club every year and earn what I can

[JustMe]

Not knocking the guys because I would probably be doing the same thing but loyalty to clubs really is a rarity in this day and age. Money nearly always wins out in the end.

If you arent professional then youre chasing $$$ in every job. Why all the hate?

[Zonal Marking]

If you arent professional then youre chasing $$$ in every job. Why all the hate?

True but would you work for slightly less at a workplace you feel comfortable in?

[anfield]

With jimmy Oates going to Lambton it left Piddo on the outer. So it was basically move or spend some time on the pine.

[Alton]

This $ strategy can?t last NL

[Taffy]

Not knocking the guys because I would probably be doing the same thing but loyalty to clubs really is a rarity in this day and age. Money nearly always wins out in the end.

Loyalty from a club is also becoming too rare.

[Taffy]

This $ strategy can?t last NL

Depends how much money their pokies keep bringing in

[W8 WATCHER]

This $ strategy can?t last NL

piddo $1200 per game

[matjpacker]

This $ strategy can?t last NL

What $ strategy, we have announced 1 player and suddenly we are breaking the bank?

[matjpacker]

piddo $1200 per game

Sorry, someone is telling you porky pies.

[plague]

Piddo to New Lambton
Very surprising that

You are all neglecting the major part of the announcement.


New Lambton has a 'press office'.

Must have renovated the baby changing room or something.

A-League 2nd div cant come soon enough for some of these clubs.


Cheers,
plagues press office.

[matjpacker]

You are all neglecting the major part of the announcement.


New Lambton has a 'press office'.

Must have renovated the baby changing room or something.

A-League 2nd div cant come soon enough for some of these clubs.


Cheers,
plagues press office.

It is called ?taking the piss?.

[Alton]

They won?t last

[Bremsstrahlung]

Loyalty from a club is also becoming too rare.

Two way street isn’t it.

I like the idea of loyalty, some players and clubs would be motivated by cultivating that culture.
I think the constant changes to the competition make up with youth through to what the senior grades are and expansion of the competition have all played a part in making it a bit hard to be “loyal” from both sides.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Also slightly amused at the NL comments.
We crucify clubs like Lakes or Adamstown for not being competitive. We crucify clubs like Jaffas for spending money to win competitions. We crucify clubs for ‘stealing’ fringe players that have been ‘developed’ at other clubs. And now we crucify clubs in the middle that are trying to improve their squad.


There ain’t no winning.

Clubs have had long enough to be babied by no relegation. Now we will start to see over the next 5 years who the sustainable and successful clubs will be. Those that piss off the player base and can’t attract players, those that overstretch financially and can’t keep it up, those that develop from within. Very exciting.

[JustMe]

True but would you work for slightly less at a workplace you feel comfortable in?

I wouldnt leave a winning club if the $$ were relatively close.

I thought NL with their 1000s of juniors which was often told to all would grow their own team. maybe that wasnt as great as it sounded.

[Devon Sangas]

Two way street isn?t it.

I like the idea of loyalty, some players and clubs would be motivated by cultivating that culture.
I think the constant changes to the competition make up with youth through to what the senior grades are and expansion of the competition have all played a part in making it a bit hard to be ?loyal? from both sides.

I agree, but you name me 5 players from the current crop that have been loyal? I'm talk 10 years +.

Rare as hen's teeth.

[straightred88]

I agree, but you name me 5 players from the current crop that have been loyal? I'm talk 10 years +.

Rare as hen's teeth.

Not many in NPL - just mercenaries.

[mge61]

I agree, but you name me 5 players from the current crop that have been loyal? I'm talk 10 years +.

Rare as hen's teeth.

Possibly Pat Wheeler and Dylan Holz at Edgie would be getting close.

[Mad with football]

As clubs are starting pre-season training do we have any news on player movements other than those known? Have heard Cooks Hill have attracted a few good young players there ?