2023 Northern League One

[Hunter403]

I did hear about Kahibah getting a red card with a penalty given, heard from my source (Kahibah supporter) that the Southy player tripped over the ball and there was no contact?

Certainly looked like it from where I was standing. I'd love to see the Veo recording. From behind the goal it looked like no contact; just a stumble from the Southy player. Still, would have made no difference, Southy were the better of the two.

[Hunter403]

You?re a hard judge, Southy knocked the ball around well in windy conditions, 2 nil at half time and Kahibah tactic was to pump it long using the wind, I got a bit sick watching their keeper pump it up the guts the entire second half

I'd have to disagree. Neither knocked it around well or respected possession. It was ugly.

Southy's young keeper looks ok, but needs to improve his kicking. Everything Southy did well involved Tom Walker. Without him they would really struggle.
Kahibah clearly missed their normal backline. They need Hextal back.

[GO AWAY]

On a brighter note Toronto Awaba won the minor premiership. Awesome effort with three games to go.

[Hotline]

On a brighter note Toronto Awaba won the minor premiership. Awesome effort with three games to go.

Well done Stags! Won it in a canter.

My only criticism is that the club keep referring to their achievement as the MINOR premiership. The club are Premiers and won the premiership! There is nothing minor about it.

Whoever wins the knockout, end of season kick about will be Champions.

[Newfm]

I think Jamie Subat?s age makes up for all those 15/16 year old players.. although if your physio could keep him on the park, you would have locked in a finals spot already!

[ForeverRed]

I think Jamie Subat?s age makes up for all those 15/16 year old players.. although if your physio could keep him on the park, you would have locked in a finals spot already!
He hasn?t played first grade for a couple of months, regular reserve grader these days

[Newfm]

Well there you go, no one to steer these youngsters around, maybe that?s the reason there?s no finals spot consolidated. Can?t put an old head on young shoulders

[GO AWAY]

Working perfectly at Toronto with McPherson at the back steering all the young blokes around. Not that he says much, but his class does his talking

[MCG_1997]

Round 24 Prediction
Thornton 1-2 Westy
Belswans 1-1 Singleton
Wallsend 1-3 Southy
Cesscock 0-1 Kahibah

[Hunter403]

Thornton 1-2 Westy
Belswans 2-1 Singleton
Wallsend 3-0 Southy
Cesscock 0-1 Kahibah

[GO AWAY]

Metford 1 Killy 4
Murray?s beach 2 Greta 1
Fletcher 1 Macquarie hills 1
Kitchener 0 redhead 5

[GO AWAY]

Can anyone tell me what this weekends break is for

[Taffy]

Wet weather weekend

[GO AWAY]

Oh ok fair enough ?? so southy v Wallsend will be on ?

[Taffy]

I guess so, that's the only round to be caught up.

[MCG_1997]

Does anyone know the score for Wallsend vs Southy today?

[Undertaker]

Does anyone know the score for Wallsend vs Southy today?

3-3 Southy with a last minute equaliser

[MCG_1997]

Wow
That makes it very interesting for the remaining 2/3 rounds.
If you take Cessnock out, there are three teams pushing for finals (Southy, Wallsend, and Belswans). Mathematically, even Thornton has a slim chance but in reality , they are out after they didn't beat Cessnock away.

[Yesk21]

Wow
That makes it very interesting for the remaining 2/3 rounds.
If you take Cessnock out, there are three teams pushing for finals (Southy, Wallsend, and Belswans). Mathematically, even Thornton has a slim chance but in reality , they are out after they didn't beat Cessnock away.

Looking at the run homes for all 3 sides, I?m backing Wallsend to sneak in to 5th

[MCG_1997]

Despite their yesterday's 0-4 loss to Thornton, they still have a slim chance. Just Southy not winning any of their next 2 games.

[MCG_1997]

Round 26 prediction:
Thornton 2-1 Kahiba
Toronto 4-1 Wallsend
Belswans 1-3 Westy
Southy 2-2 Singo

[GO AWAY]

Thornton 0 Kahibah 3
Toronto 3 Wallsend 1
Belswans 1 westy 0
Southy 2 singo 1

[MCG_1997]

What a roller coaster of a game was played at Thornton Park.
Thornton had majority of possession in the first half leading 1-0.
Kahiba equalised with a penalty at 60. Thornton 's CB, Samuel Rossy, got sent off at 75. Thornton scored again at 85 but Kahibah responded with two goals at 89 and 90. That wasn't the end of it as Thornton scored at 94 to equalise the game 3-3. It was an entertaining game to watch.

[GO AWAY]

What a year so far from the stags 17 wins out of 23??best attack, equal best defence. Doubt many have them on top and Belswans missing semis. One more job to do. Interesting how many will play Sunday with injuries, suspension and card trouble.

[Taffy]

One more job to do.

Surely winning the grand final is the final job

[GO AWAY]

Surely winning the grand final is the final job

Absolutely, but it?s anew comp starting next week

[ForeverRed]

What a year so far from the stags 17 wins out of 23??best attack, equal best defence. Doubt many have them on top and Belswans missing semis. One more job to do. Interesting how many will play Sunday with injuries, suspension and card trouble.
Hope you have youth teams next season otherwise you?ll be playing zone league

[Alton]

Hope you have youth teams next season otherwise you?ll be playing zone league
That?s what I am hearing also Red, the promotion relegation thing means you have to have all required teams.

[Taffy]

That's only if you want to be in the NPL. Toronto could just have no youth teams and win it every year. With someone else getting the opportunity to go up

[samcan]

That's only if you want to be in the NPL. Toronto could just have no youth teams and win it every year. With someone else getting the opportunity to go up

So senior Newfm clubs aren't required to have npl youth next year?

[Taffy]

So senior Newfm clubs aren't required to have npl youth next year?

Only if they don't want to get promoted.

[samcan]

I disagree with the 2024 relegation playoff. 4th place shouldnt be having a chance to go up and no finals is a farce.

Id rather have a 3 week semis comp either top 4 or top 6 (formats can be debated) and a straight playoff for 11th npl with 2nd L1 after.

[samcan]

Only if they don't want to get promoted.

So clubs happy to stay in League 1 can pick and chose what ages to have for youth.
That could be problematic for the youth comps where teams are varied.

eg so a club with no 13s or 14s means a bye to other club or is the draw different each week for each age? bit like this year i guess

Think i prefer the 3 tier system that currently operates during phase 2

[Taffy]

I disagree with the 2024 relegation playoff. 4th place shouldnt be having a chance to go up and no finals is a farce.

Id rather have a 3 week semis comp either top 4 or top 6 (formats can be debated) and a straight playoff for 11th npl with 2nd L1 after.

If you can beat 11th placed NPL side and 2nd and 3rd you're clearly good enough to go up. If you can't then you stay down


So clubs happy to stay in League 1 can pick and chose what ages to have for youth.

No like Toronto this year they couldn't have any youth, needed all. Clubs without all teams get a years grace and following year if can't fill all teams they can't have any.

[Hunter403]

So senior Newfm clubs aren't required to have npl youth next year?

That is correct

[Bremsstrahlung]

Mixed feels about the youth aspect.
Part of me thinks those ‘elite’ clubs should be giving back to youth and helping develop the next generation and compulsory youth helps.

The other side of me realises that not all clubs care, nor do all clubs do youth development well. So maybe it should be left to clubs that want to, and see it as an investment in their future. I just wonder what happens when more clubs think it’s not worth the time and effort for minimal short term reward. Do we see a mass exodus of clubs when they don’t ‘need’ to?

Maybe it needs to be opened up to any club that can meet the requirements. Eg Warners Bay or Swansea or Garden Suburbs as random suggestions. Can they formulate a youth program and enter at the lowest level and compete?

[Taffy]

Maybe it needs to be opened up to any club that can meet the requirements. Eg Warners Bay or Swansea or Garden Suburbs as random suggestions. Can they formulate a youth program and enter at the lowest level and compete?

Now we all have promotion and relegation and youth and seniors are decoupled Zone league sides probably could enter one, they just need to set up the 5 teams.

[sapdad]

Maybe it needs to be opened up to any club that can meet the requirements. Eg Warners Bay or Swansea or Garden Suburbs as random suggestions. Can they formulate a youth program and enter at the lowest level and compete?
There are currently 2 spare spots in the YPL structure.I would assume NNSW would be more than accommodating if a club wanted to enter their teams.To be honest a good community level club wouldnt be far behind being competitive in the 3rd tier anyway.From there its a matter of success equals promotion.Theres a few clubs with good junior numbers who would get up to speed fairly quickly.

[Taffy]

There are currently 2 spare spots in the YPL structure.I would assume NNSW would be more than accommodating if a club wanted to enter their teams.To be honest a good community level club wouldnt be far behind being competitive in the 3rd tier anyway.From there its a matter of success equals promotion.Theres a few clubs with good junior numbers who would get up to speed fairly quickly.

Charlestown Juniors used to be one that would've fitted right in, but some changes at the top there and the drive to have a competitve A grade team in every comp has seen that slide.

Not sure what other clubs would have 5 teams that would be close to the third tier, Medowie maybe. Certainly community clubs with a few good teams in a one or two ages while others have good numbers those teams struggle in the lower grades never mind making a step up and having had to watch PYL (though top tier) and C grade all year there is a massive difference.

[Eastwest]

How about a Newcastle community Rep club. Theres a large pool of Kids that could be selected of the zone clubs. There was a 12s squad this year.

They could start with 1 or 2 age groups to begin with. Would compete with div 3 teams and doesnt need any 1 club putting in all effort.

[Hunter403]

My view is that to be in NPL or NL1 (seniors) which is supposed to be the local elite comp, you must have a junior structure to support the continuation of those competitions. If not, then ZPL (or NL2 as it will be known) is as high as you can go. I think it is a bit rich for a club with no junior base to sit in the premier comps and expect other clubs to produce the next generation for them. Running a junior system is a significant investment in time and money. If individuals have the ambition of running a club and making their way to NPL in seniors, do it at a club with the youth structure in place like, say Mayfield or Kotara
In PYL, all NPL clubs and NL1 clubs must be represented. If not, immediate demotion to NL1 where you get a season's grace before demotion to ZPL. Where shortfalls exist, invite community clubs to apply/participate, or as Eastwest suggested, a community based rep team could be raised.

@sapdad. Grouping all teams in tier 3 as being little better than community is really unfair in a club championship situation. In the case of the club where I coach, one team at the bottom of the table made tier 3 inevitable for all of the club's teams. Some of those teams would challenge lower tier one and all tier two teams.

[Taffy]

Harsh to blame the one team. None of your teams finished in the top 2 and only two finished in the top 4, even if that team finished the average of your other teams (4th or 5th) you still wouldn't have gone into tier 2. Though I do agree that there aren't just a little better than community

[sapdad]

@sapdad. Grouping all teams in tier 3 as being little better than community is really unfair in a club championship situation. In the case of the club where I coach, one team at the bottom of the table made tier 3 inevitable for all of the club's teams. Some of those teams would challenge lower tier one and all tier two teams.

Fair point,and Im not here to sledge any teams/clubs.I guess the point I was trying to make was that now with the new system,any new clubs wont be lumped in with teams that are vastly superior.It should give new clubs the chance to find their feet and be competitive without copping the results that may drive kids away in the short term.

[sapdad]

My view is that to be in NPL or NL1 (seniors) which is supposed to be the local elite comp, you must have a junior structure to support the continuation of those competitions. If not, then ZPL (or NL2 as it will be known) is as high as you can go. I think it is a bit rich for a club with no junior base to sit in the premier comps and expect other clubs to produce the next generation for them. Running a junior system is a significant investment in time and money. If individuals have the ambition of running a club and making their way to NPL in seniors, do it at a club with the youth structure in place like, say Mayfield or Kotara.

I can see both sides of this argument but agree moreso with your side here.It would also probably work in reverse where if senior teams were being denied promotion due to lack of juniors, then players would be more inclined to leave to chase opportunities at higher levels so the incentive should be there to have strong seniors and juniors.After witnessing the last few years it does annoy me that some clubs just invest more in recruiting than developing and if every club did that then who takes responsibility for improving the kids in the first place?If somehow clubs are rewarded for bringing their own players from youth to seniors then that would also help the comp overall.

[Oldy]

I can see both sides of this argument but agree moreso with your side here.It would also probably work in reverse where if senior teams were being denied promotion due to lack of juniors, then players would be more inclined to leave to chase opportunities at higher levels so the incentive should be there to have strong seniors and juniors.After witnessing the last few years it does annoy me that some clubs just invest more in recruiting than developing and if every club did that then who takes responsibility for improving the kids in the first place?If somehow clubs are rewarded for bringing their own players from youth to seniors then that would also help the comp overall.

Maybe juniors could have rego subsidy if staying at same npl youth. 20% for 2nd yr, 33% for 3rd yr and on. NNSW have $$ coming out of their ***

On the other hand if I knew id be in same bottom 3 team every year id leave too.

[Hunter403]

Not blaming one team. The point I was trying to make is that if you have one team at the bottom of the table, then it's likely that it will be tier 3 for the rest.
On another note..
This year the club championship in div 2 was decided with weeks to spare and the last few rounds were little more than trial games. It was a good chance to try a few things.

[Taffy]

Maybe juniors could have rego subsidy if staying at same npl youth. 20% for 2nd yr, 33% for 3rd yr and on. NNSW have $$ coming out of their ***

On the other hand if I knew id be in same bottom 3 team every year id leave too.

You supposedly get reduction in points in the PPS the more kids you have had come through your system. Though since the PPS is so large it doesn't really promote it

[MCG_1997]

Anyone knows of any coaching movement for next year?
Read on the Northern's game review that Thornton is bringing back the same coaches who were in charge in the last 4 years. I thought the poor bloke who took over from round 13 was doing ok. They were winning some games, and became competitive. It makes no sense.

[Taffy]

I heard the same, probably politics but why bring back a coach that left halfway through? Rather keep the coach that got you 1.2 points a game over the coach that only got you .75 points a game

[GO AWAY]

Westy 2 singo 2 ( westy 3-2 in extra time )
Kahibah 3 southy 0

[Hunter403]

Westy 2 singo 2 ( westy 3-2 in extra time )
Kahibah 3 southy 0

kiss of death?

[GO AWAY]

kiss of death?

Just my prediction, so get on a singo and southy win haha

[MCG_1997]

Westy 2-3 Singo
Kahiba 5-1 Southy

[ForeverRed]

Just my prediction, so get on a singo and southy win haha


Westy 2-3 Singo
Kahiba 5-1 Southy
2.1 to Southy, jog on buddy.

[GO AWAY]

2.1 to Southy, jog on buddy.

Massive effort against Kahibah at kahibah ?.. well done southy
Thank me for my tips

[Taffy]

I think Southy this year got all their wins against Kahibah at Kahibah but when playing at Southy they lost to Kahibah

[GO AWAY]

Tronno 1-0 🙏
Singo 3?1

[Yesk21]

Toronto 3-2 extra time
Singo 4-2

[W8 WATCHER]

Toronto 3-2 extra time
Singo 4-2

westy v singo gf, my prediction

[Undertaker]

westy v singo gf, my prediction

Of course it is. You?ve always had it out for Toronto? Must be crying at night knowing they?re premiers

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

What an entertaining game that was yesterday. West Wallsend have thrown a spanner in the works. Now with a home grand final they would have to take favourite status.

[GO AWAY]

Hearing southy up 1-0 v singo at singo

[GO AWAY]

Full time

Toronto v South Cardiff Final

[GashArmy]

Great season Toronto those who laugh last laugh the loudest

[Alton]

Great season Toronto those who laugh last laugh the loudest

I can?t help but think this is karma for not fielding the quota of teams everyone else had to, especially the work that he Gunners out in to their youth

[Jake]

Has Go Away lost his log in details hahahaha

[Swansong]

Quick to jump on and bag out Toronto boys. Where?s your premiers medal?

[Taffy]

Toronto Chokers is probably a more apt name. Imagine losing to a team that finished 5th

[W8 WATCHER]

Of course it is. You?ve always had it out for Toronto? Must be crying at night knowing they?re premiers

lol
your right i am crying :roflz:,
more choke then a linda lovelace movie

[Hunter403]

Westy vs Southy
Southy an ugly team to watch. Credit to them for making it to the GF but it is head shaking stuff.
Westy to win and win well.

[Taffy]

Westy vs Southy
Southy an ugly team to watch. Credit to them for making it to the GF but it is head shaking stuff.
Westy to win and win well.

Well they don't play the kick it long like Kahibah but from the few games I've seen they knock it round well.

[Hunter403]

Well they don't play the kick it long like Kahibah but from the few games I've seen they knock it round well.

The games I've seen, that's all they do. Kick it long for the quick boys. Never seen them "knock it around well".
No problem with that: play to your strengths, but it is ugly. As I said: credit to them.
Also not making comparisons with other teams (raw nerve?). Just my opinion of what I have seen of Southy this year.

[straightred88]

Good season overall by Stags but they choked in the finals

[Undertaker]

lol
your right i am crying :roflz:,
more choke then a linda lovelace movie

How?d Wallsend go this year? Conceded 164 goals across two grades. Might need you to come back and get them out of trouble?

[Undertaker]

Good season overall by Stags but they choked in the finals

You could say choke yes, but outside looking in they paid for their **** ups in the back end of the season. A fair chunk of their players went into finals without playing a game for 3-4 weeks, which no matter who you are you can?t do that.

Paid the price in finals but took home the most important trophy as a reward for being the best side all year. Do it again next year when the youth comes and they are into NPL.

[Hunter403]

Well done Westy.

[Swansong]

Westy have proved direct football works! Fair play

[W8 WATCHER]

You could say choke yes, but outside looking in they paid for their **** ups in the back end of the season. A fair chunk of their players went into finals without playing a game for 3-4 weeks, which no matter who you are you can?t do that.

Paid the price in finals but took home the most important trophy as a reward for being the best side all year. Do it again next year when the youth comes and they are into NPL.

Outstanding summary of the biggest choke in NL1 history. 👏
Well done westy, and great effort from Sthy just making 5th spot

[Jardelsimage]

Well done to both teams yesterday, Southy did pretty well on the day, kept pushing Westy all the way, in the end Reddo's love of the big game moments came through, congrats Westy.

The only downside was the NNSWFA mandate that they had to sell that horse piss, masquerading itself as beer.
Modus whatever they call it, definitely will not be rushing out to by a six pack..

[Taffy]

Great game for the neutrals even better for Westy. Commiserations to Southy, now their rookie coach has experienced a grand final, might be the difference next time.

Good crowd there too, wonder what the final attendance numbers were.

As for the beer, beer was good, better than the normal dirty swill you find out there.

[onlooker]

Just watched the highlights of the GF, was it just me seeing things or did the Southy Skipper grab old mate by the throat just after the penalty was awarded?

[Taffy]

Just watched the highlights of the GF, was it just me seeing things or did the Southy Skipper grab old mate by the throat just after the penalty was awarded?

Just rewatched it and the bigger question is why was a penalty awarded when the foul happened outside the box?

[Undertaker]

Just rewatched it and the bigger question is why was a penalty awarded when the foul happened outside the box?

Southy also denied a stone cold pen