Papas Out

[JustMe]

Just cant find a way to meld these lads together. Prefers an Arsenal 11.
Loves possession, hates goals.
Hates Newy Youth, loves CCM.

Anyone who disagrees gets T-bagged by Hamma. Dont know where he went but he loves it.

[ForeverRed]

Just cant find a way to meld these lads together. Prefers an Arsenal 11.
Loves possession, hates goals.
Hates Newy Youth, loves CCM.

Anyone who disagrees gets T-bagged by Hamma. Dont know where he went but he loves it.

Yes Papas is starting to bore me to tears

[Bremsstrahlung]

Think he has potential as a coach tbh. He’s had us playing well at times. First half looked good the other day. Problem is - it’s “oh we played well here”, “played well for this 40 minutes” but not a consistent performance.
Also think our players, while not the best, have potential to be utilised much better.

The matchup and chemistry isn’t quite there between coach and players it seems to me.
Not sure if that’s failure of players to implement a plan, or failure of coach to adapt the plan to suit his player strengths/weaknesses/team selection.


Would’ve loved to see Penha in this team though.

[Couscous]

Well, there's a coach in Newcastle whose football would probably be OK with this squad.

[380]

Stumblins holidaying in Newy is he ?.

[JustMe]

Think he has potential as a coach tbh. He’s had us playing well at times.

Yeah. He can coach but I dont think he can scrap. He has had some good moments and constant turn over of decent players has definitely hurt.

But we still need a coach out thread to keep him on the toes.

Harry Redknapp in

[djjones]

Guarantee GVE is circling. Ask couscous to ask himself what the go is there.

[MFKS]

Yes Papas is starting to bore me to tears

3 goals in the last 9 games

Says plenty

[Oldy]

going going ....

[R Ramjet]

Why does Papas never wear a club shirt or club attire for our games.
Always goes with black pants and plain black shirt.
Is he superstitious or something ?

[jandysardine]

Why does Papas never wear a club shirt or club attire for our games.
Always goes with black pants and plain black shirt.
Is he superstitious or something ?

he refuses to

[Frodo]

Why does Papas never wear a club shirt or club attire for our games.
Always goes with black pants and plain black shirt.
Is he superstitious or something ?

I actually noticed this was pretty common nowadays.

Rudan, Moon and Pappas don't.
Veart, Talay, Aloisi and Popovic wear a plain suit most times and the odd club polo.
Yorke wore the club hat.
It's only Corica, Zads and Montgomery that wear the full club get up every week. And Montgomery probably isn't getting paid so wears clothes from the communal pile anyways.

[Eastwest]

I actually noticed this was pretty common nowadays.

Rudan, Moon and Pappas don't.
Veart, Talay, Aloisi and Popovic wear a plain suit most times and the odd club polo.
Yorke wore the club hat.
It's only Corica, Zads and Montgomery that wear the full club get up every week. And Montgomery probably isn't getting paid so wears clothes from the communal pile anyways.

Is getting fat. Club shirt no longer fits. Sending Keto jellies now.

[Jim]

Hates scoring goals so doesnt give Archie a shot. Thanks mudflap

[380]

Never understood the attraction to this bloke as a coach. Just because he put the cones out for Ange that meant plenty were all in on this guy. Terribly overrated but the bloke is a very good sales person and he had his fair share of suckers calling for him every time the gig was vacant here. He has the gift of the gab although he did start looking annoyed and getting quite prickly in the latest post match presser.

Some of his recruitment, How he has managed certain players differently after a poor game with some keeping there spots in the starting line up whilst others getting rissoled to the stand next game and then the McGarry debacle just looked totally incompetent from him. Throw in questionable subs such as like for like many weekends in the FB positions.

Something is not quite right at this club at present and goes beyond the ownership issues but directly to our M.I.A Executive Chairman and the pointy end of our coaching staff. Bowlo is about the only one worth keeping IMO.

With a bit of luck Victory or Smurfs will be fooled by the AP false aura and make a play for his services for next season.

[Timewilltell]

I think we?re stuck with him? protected species? you cant have complete disregard for Newcastle and survive unless you have something on the club

[Frodo]

I'm surprised people couldn't at least wait until we were actually knocked out of finals contention before starting the annual Facebook comments section thread on here..

We all know we will lose next week so it won't matter, but if Pappas did, and again he's not going to, but if he did manage to take THIS squad to the finals he would pretty much be deserving of a statue outside the stadium.



All I'm saying is, at least wait until we are dead and buried because reading the Eulogy.

[mic22]

I think he had us playing some good football, considering the limitations in the roster.
Sometimes a bit too conservative with all the back passes and a general lack of creativity up front. But again, our midfielders didn't show much ability to make key passes, and our striker almost never puts himself in the right positions to receive one.

What I didn't like is someone like Ingham being given chances all year - even as a midfielder recently, which is the ultimate pisstake.
I would have given more chances to young players like Stynes and Timmins over Grozos and Ingham. And Hoffmann, seriously...
The McGarry thing is hard to justify.

Finals are gone unless we win with a ridiculous goal difference, can't see that happening.
As usual, it will come down to the few points we wasted (especially the recent back to back goals conceded from corner kicks in injury time).

[The Dunster]

Ingham has played very well the last two games.

[Jeterpool]

For what it's worth...

All of the squad (28 players) except for 6 played their first minutes for the club under Papas - Hoffman, Thurgate, Duncan, Mauragis, Goodwin & James. This is essentially his team.

With one game of the season remaining:
- We have equaled our points haul from last season. We finished last season 9th.
- We have conceded exactly the same amount of goals as last season
- We have scored 15 goals fewer than last season.

I'd say we haven't necessarily regressed in terms of points but we haven't really progressed either.

[Eastwest]

For what it's worth...

All of the squad (28 players) except for 6 played their first minutes for the club under Papas - Hoffman, Thurgate, Duncan, Mauragis, Goodwin & James. This is essentially his team.

With one game of the season remaining:
- We have equaled our points haul from last season. We finished last season 9th.
- We have conceded exactly the same amount of goals as last season
- We have scored 15 goals fewer than last season.

I'd say we haven't necessarily regressed in terms of points but we haven't really progressed either.

Thats the way, drown us with mediocracy. So jets.

Improvement or FO. simple innit.

[Maito Mitch]

So he talks all about how Archie hasn't played a lot and didn't use him off the bench last week because he needs to protect him and he's not up to it... Then proceeds to start him this week? Am I missing something?

There's a lot behind the scenes that we don't know that can justify his decisions, but it's becoming more baffling

He's gone to the effort to explain his decision now he's gone completely against it. It's as though he's set Archie up to fail in this game so that Papas can prove himself right to the FB brigade

[mic22]

So he talks all about how Archie hasn't played a lot and didn't use him off the bench last week because he needs to protect him and he's not up to it... Then proceeds to start him this week? Am I missing something?

There's a lot behind the scenes that we don't know that can justify his decisions, but it's becoming more baffling

He's gone to the effort to explain his decision now he's gone completely against it. It's as though he's set Archie up to fail in this game so that Papas can prove himself right to the FB brigade

I was thinking exactly the same.
Didn't play him last week to avoid any risks, then starts him when there is nothing left to play for?

[Maito Mitch]

What makes it even more bizarre is no Piscopo behind. Or Thurgate or O'Neill. Finally given a chance. But it's in the deep end with no support

[380]

Bloke makes Stubbins look good.

[Frodo]

He doesn't play Archie. People froth.

He plays Archie. Exact same People froth.


Absolutely Fuggin Hilarious. This is why nobody is willing to give fans a voice on decisions within the game, collectively we are just a bunch of fools.

[Maito Mitch]

This is why nobody is willing to give fans a voice on decisions within the game, collectively we are just a bunch of fools.

It's got zero to do with fans opinions. It's all to do with what Papas himself said. His reasoning for leaving him on the bench last weekend was that he's protecting him. That's why he hasn't played.

What's he done this week? Started him?? Where's the logic? He's taking the piss. It's purely his ego setting him up to fail. Couldn't play 15 minutes last week because he needs surgery but **** it this week he can start

[Frodo]

It's got zero to do with fans opinions. It's all to do with what Papas himself said. His reasoning for leaving him on the bench last weekend was that he's protecting him. That's why he hasn't played.

What's he done this week? Started him?? Where's the logic? He's taking the piss. It's purely his ego setting him up to fail. Couldn't play 15 minutes last week because he needs surgery but **** it this week he can start

He didn't train last week, which is why he was only going to give him 15 mins, once we went down a man and we're trailing he thought the extra work load could injure and undercooked player.

This week he's obviously trained, so Pappas thought he'd start him and see how long he lasts.


Logic is pretty easy to find when you want to, being angry over nothing is way easier tho.


Chin up mate, it's almost over. This game is literally for fun/avoiding an extra Australia cup game. That's it.

[Maito Mitch]

Piscopo on and Archie off at the same time. Taking the ****ing piss

[mic22]

This week he's obviously trained, so Pappas thought he'd start him and see how long he lasts.



Where's the logic in seeing how long he lasts in the last game of the season?
If he was at risk of injury last week, I assume the risk wouldn't have changed in 7 days?

[Jeterpool]

See everyone next season.

Light off when you're done, please

[My2BobsWorth]

Good to see everyone being passionate, unlike Jets management and the APL

[mic22]

...and he's out

[plague]

Its one of the great joys in life opening that email to see if he had in fact resigned or just re-signed for another 3 years.

The anticipation is fantastic.

Anyway, Venables or we riot.


Cheers,
plague.

[Hunter403]

So the new coach will moan "it's not my squad".

[StannyCFCJET]

Had go go. We need to focus on developing young players and Papas wasn't interested

[q-money]

congratulations to Couscous on his return to the top job at the Jets

[Jardelsimage]

So the new coach will moan "it's not my squad".

be careful, remember Rads is free.....

[Alton]

Either of the Z crew, Zads or Zane

[Taffy]

I actually noticed this was pretty common nowadays.

Rudan, Moon and Pappas don't.
Veart, Talay, Aloisi and Popovic wear a plain suit most times and the odd club polo.
Yorke wore the club hat.
It's only Corica, Zads and Montgomery that wear the full club get up every week. And Montgomery probably isn't getting paid so wears clothes from the communal pile anyways.

All following Pep who doesn't wear City gear

[W8 WATCHER]

Either of the Z crew, Zads or Zane

quickest way to further destroy the jets is to appoint zadcovich.
good luck- to the jets, if he is appointed- next year will be the last of their existence.

[Jeterpool]

Every coach wants to test themselves at the highest levels they can - and there will always be coaches wanting one of the 12 A-League gigs going.

But they're coming into one of, if not the most unstable gig in the league.

We are the least attractive of all the clubs and I think anything above the wooden spoon will be a success at this point in time.

[Mark325]

I’m holding out the smallest glimmer of hope that this could maybe mean that the club might be sold, and whoever is selling it didn’t want Papas but I’m also highly aware that that’s not true and this really could be a death knell for the club

[Frodo]

The fact that he's rumoured to be heading back overseas as an assistant instead of waiting here for new owners to come in and hopefully improve things is what I'm most worried about.


There's absolutely zero rumours of any owners being involved in negotiations, and if there was even a chance we were being sold there would at absolute worst be something floating around by now about who they were or where they were at. We have nothing.


Another off season worrying about even making the first round looks to be on the cards.

[380]

The fact that he's rumoured to be heading back overseas as an assistant instead of waiting here for new owners to come in and hopefully improve things is what I'm most worried about.


There's absolutely zero rumours of any owners being involved in negotiations, and if there was even a chance we were being sold there would at absolute worst be something floating around by now about who they were or where they were at. We have nothing.


Another off season worrying about even making the first round looks to be on the cards.

This and also you would have to be the eternal optimist if you think the other club owners have not gone beyond the point of getting any return on there investment now.

They are not a benevolent society so yeh even making Rd 1 may very well be highly questionable. All this at a time the club is signing kiddies , Keeping players who would not make the bench at ten other clubs and now the coach exits.

FWIW i am all for providing D Zane an opportunity at this level or even Wilkshire.

[belchardo]

Its one of the great joys in life opening that email to see if he had in fact resigned or just re-signed for another 3 years.

The anticipation is fantastic.

Anyway, Venables or we riot.


Cheers,
plague.

Took me until the bit about "search for a new coach" to finally understand.

[StannyCFCJET]

We aren't getting sold and no one is buying us. Club is on it's last legs. Anyone thinking otherwise is deluded. Just find some way to enjoy it while it's here

[turbojetfireV8]

Ncl Herald:


A-League soccer, 2023: Newcastle Jets in search for new coach after Arthur Papas resigns

By James Gardiner
Updated June 19 2023 - 1:15pm, first published 12:19pm

The Newcastle Jets are on the hunt for a new coach after the resignation of Arthur Papas on Monday.

Papas had a year to run on his contract in Newcastle but has been linked to a return to Asia.

The Jets began preseason testing on Monday and tackle Melbourne Victory in the Australian Cup play-off in Darwin on July 17.Training is scheduled to begin later this week.

Papas, 43, has spent two years at the helm, in which the club missed the play-offs, finishing ninth and 10th.

Assistant coach Arthur Diles has also resigned and is expected to join Melbourne Victory as an assistant coach.


Women's coach and academy boss Gary Van Egmond and youth team coach Damien Zane remain at the club and are likely to take charge of the A-League squad in the interim.

Van Egmond has served two stints as head coach, famously guiding the club to its only championship in 2008.

Former Jets captain Ruben Zadkovich recently parted ways with Perth Glory. A number of other former players, including Labinot Haliti and Adam Griffiths, are coaching NPL clubs or are assistants at other A-League franchises.

Jets executive chairman Shane Mattiske issued a statement confirming Papas' exit.

"Whilst the departure of Arthur has only just been confirmed, we have been aware of the potential of a change and in the background have been considering a number of potential candidates," he said in a statement. "We will now accelerate and close discussions with the aim of minimising the impact on team preparations."

As well as prepare for the Australia Cup qualifier, a new coach has at least four places to fill on the playing roster.

Jason Hoffman and Kosta Grozos are understood to have agreed to new deal, which would take the list to 19

The player Papas has already brought in are young or fringe players.

Replacements for Beka Mikeltadze, Jaush Sotirio, Angus Thurgate and Manabu Saito are yet to be signed.

Papas has expressed publicly his frustration at the ownership situation at the Jets. For a third season the club will be bankrolled by the owners of four rivals clubs.

He has previously worked in India and Japan, where he was assistant to Ange Postecoglou at Yokohama F Marinos.

"Arthur came to us as an Australian coach who had built strong experience overseas throughout his career," Mattiske said. "Over the past month Arthur has been transparent with the club that he was considering a return to working abroad. This has now been confirmed and although we are disappointed to see him depart, we respect his wishes".

[R Ramjet]

Coaches have gone soft.
It only took 2 pages for this to work !

[Thomas477]

Coaches have gone soft.
It only took 2 pages for this to work !

Nah, that just says how dead this forum has become over the past 10 years.

No one really cares any more.

[My2BobsWorth]

Nah, that just says how dead this forum has become over the past 10 years.

No one really cares any more.

Is that because you haven't been around:roflz:

[Jetmaster]

Caught the end of the ACL the other night (Buriram v City).

Aside from being probably the best quality picture I have seen so far from P+, it was a nice surprise to see Uncle Arthur shouting from the sideline. His side lost 2-0, looked OK but couldn't finish.

[Jim]

Bloke turned out to be jerk. Anyone who thought he can coach cannot understand the game

[StannyCFCJET]

Bloke turned out to be jerk. Anyone who thought he can coach cannot understand the game

Did something new happen or get revealed??

[Couscous]

He beat City with Buriram. Papas is a genius.