2023 Jets Academy/Pre Academy

[samcan]

Npl1 this year. See how they go.

[Aegon]

Npl1 this year. See how they go.

Western Sydney Wanderers up this weekend and APIA next weekend in trial matches prior to the season starting on the 19th of Feb. Should be a good litmus test.

Mixed results through the age groups against CC Mariners and Sydney Olympic prior to the Christmas break.

[Eastwest]

Great to see our teams back playing against the top NPL teams.

[Aegon]

Games v Wanderers today:

13’s 0-1
14’s 1-4

Haven’t heard older ages scores yet.

[JettyJet]

Anyone heard about the game time message that's just gone out??

[samcan]

Anyone heard about the game time message that's just gone out??

yep. Mates kid said theres a 30% min game time for the players deemed to be at the lower end of development.

Some are being asked if theyd prefer more game time in NPL.

[northern_swan]

yep. Mates kid said theres a 30% min game time for the players deemed to be at the lower end of development.

Some are being asked if theyd prefer more game time in NPL.

I’m hearing everyone not deemed “first 11” in their age group got the message. There’s been a number of players cut, some more have walked. Apparently NPL club TD’s are getting peppered with enquiries.

[Hunter403]

So, the kids that need development are having their game time limited? Makes sense.
You pick 'em, they pay, they play. It's not as if there is a sheep station riding on the results.

[JettyJet]

All time low for the Jets.. And that's saying something..

[samcan]

So, the kids that need development are having their game time limited? Makes sense.
You pick 'em, they pay, they play. It's not as if there is a sheep station riding on the results.

Not really. The higher you go the more ruthless it gets. And they are fighting to stay in top league. Not saying this is super class either.

The whole process was botched at the start when the new coaches came in after the ex coaches chose the new squads.

However they should have done this with much more integrity. They had around 16 weeks of trials.

At first there should"ve been a train on squad from seasons end. All players can tentatively sign with NPL club at this point. Then as players transition in and out during the first 8 week period till end of November most players know where they're going. Then state to players that they are chosen to sign or some still in trial mode. Players and parents need to know.

Then a smaller squad of say 17 continues with the final squad chosen end of Jan which would see maybe 1 having to change. Then they can do the financials.

Id rather get more game time in NPL at this age then being used as a part timer. Need to be on the field for longest time possible.

[Aegon]

Round 1 results vs Hills United FC @ LMRFF:

U/18 - 1-3
U/16 - 7-0
U/15 - 0-2
U/14 - 1-2
U/13 - 2-0

[Aegon]

U/20's
Round 1 v Hurstville FC
4-0
Round 2 vs Parramatta FC
2-0
Round 3 vs Bankstown United FC
7-1

Youth
Round 1 v Hurstville FC
4-0
Round 2 vs Parramatta FC
5-3
Round 3 vs Bankstown United FC
TBC

[jandysardine]

U/20's
Round 1 v Hurstville FC
4-0
Round 2 vs Parramatta FC
2-0
Round 3 vs Bankstown United FC
7-1

Youth
Round 1 v Hurstville FC
4-0
Round 2 vs Parramatta FC
5-3
Round 3 vs Bankstown United FC
TBC

not sure if its right I heard the youth team was 1-1 v bankstown

[Eastwest]

Results fixtures all here

https://competitions.footballnsw.com.au/results/

club championship is an interesting look as well.

[Eastwest]

not sure if its right I heard the youth team was 1-1 v bankstown

1sts 1-0 Jets on the score site
20s 7-1 Jets

[jandysardine]

1sts 1-0 Jets on the score site
20s 7-1 Jets

in the match summary it has the opposition scoring an o.g. and a goal

[Eastwest]

in the match summary it has the opposition scoring an o.g. and a goal

Correct. 1-1. 88th min equaliser

[Aegon]

Round 2 vs Blacktown City FC

13’s - 5-3
14’s - 2-1
15’s - 1-1
16’s - 1-1
18’s - 3-3

[djjones]

Youth up 3-2 over Camden

[Aegon]

U20's vs Camden Tigers
5-2

[Aegon]

Vs Sutherland

13’s - 1-1
14’s - 2-2
15’s - 2-3
16’s - 5-1
18’s - 5-1

Vs UNSW

Youth 1-3
U20's ?

[Aegon]

RD 4 vs Sydney FC

13’s - 1-5
14’s - 0-7
15’s - 0-2
16’s - 4-1
18’s - 3-4

Rd 6 vs Gladesville Ryde Magic

Youth 3-0
U20's 6-2

[Eastwest]

Happens here in Newcastle all the time as well, the zone boards got rid of Northern's board when they saw their cushy spots and power would be taken from them.

Look no further than Gve, Gomez and that other plump turkey running the jets youth now. Total in house sham. Gaz should stick to womens football so he can ruin that.

Theres plenty of favours for "their boys". Ill let the street talk fill you in on the rest of the stories.

Until that regime is tossed out it wont change. Mattiske is too busy hiding behind his Italian marble table and paycheck to do anything.

Info from your local PI.

[Taffy]

Look no further than Gve, Gomez and that other plump turkey running the jets youth now. Total in house sham. Gaz should stick to womens football so he can ruin that.

Theres plenty of favours for "their boys". Ill let the street talk fill you in on the rest of the stories.

Until that regime is tossed out it wont change. Mattiske is too busy hiding behind his Italian marble table and paycheck to do anything.

Info from your local PI.

Well yes the Academy is going backwards with GVE being appointed and him just bringing in his mates and then who ever he can find, the pre-academy is a blatant money grab.

Jets certainly won't be going forward anytime soon

[howardyou]

Well yes the Academy is going backwards with GVE being appointed and him just bringing in his mates and then who ever he can find, the pre-academy is a blatant money grab.

Jets certainly won't be going forward anytime soon

I've had some involvement with the Pre-Academy this year and from my perspective it's been great. Extra session of training amongst decent kids.

[KITZ]

I've had some involvement with the Pre-Academy this year and from my perspective it's been great. Extra session of training amongst decent kids.

People have the memories of goldfish on here. Complained about TSP for the under 12s (particularly around the girls) run by northern last year.

Compared to the TSP from what I seen last year where there was a billion kids (and the sessions were considerably slower) the sessions this year have been a smaller group, but the pace and skill definitely a step up from club - which is what I thought the whole point was. The sessions have been miles ahead for the girls this year compared to what was being offered for them last year in TSP at the same age point.

The older TSPs get one game a fortnight now - no training - no specialised goalkeeper training - This is where the gap is going to grow.

[JettyJet]

I've had some involvement with the Pre-Academy this year and from my perspective it's been great. Extra session of training amongst decent kids.

The Academy is literally not going backwards. They have been promoted last year and sitting 8th in the Club Championship ,the Men are top in CC also. The women's program needs work though.

[Taffy]

Whatever helps the justification for paying to be involved.

[JettyJet]

Whatever helps the justification for paying to be involved.
I've never had nor do I have a child in the program. Facts are facts, the performances of the Boys/men's program have improved hence their position in Youth and Seniors CC. Probably one of the issues that plagues the region is the constant bagging of the Jets and the blind adulation of a very ordinary sub-standard local competition.

[Taffy]

We are talking about the Pre-Academy, not sure what any of that has to do with the Youth and Seniors.

[Eastwest]

I've never had nor do I have a child in the program. Facts are facts, the performances of the Boys/men's program have improved hence their position in Youth and Seniors CC. Probably one of the issues that plagues the region is the constant bagging of the Jets and the blind adulation of a very ordinary sub-standard local competition.

disagree. the talent of the kids alone have achieved this. That is inspite of the backward thinking gve has bought.

I was with a mate watching pre academy when i popped over to watch Jets TSP 13s. The NNSW TSP boys u13s beat the full strength Jets 13s last night 2-0. It was earned as well. The Jets were technically better but the 1 trick pony gve tactics is terrible. The TSP we re allowed to use a variety of options and it worked. The jets coaching setup is a joke and it's not necessarily the individual coaches fault.

[Wild Brew]

disagree. the talent of the kids alone have achieved this. That is inspite of the backward thinking gve has bought.

I was with a mate watching pre academy when i popped over to watch Jets TSP 13s. The NNSW TSP boys u13s beat the full strength Jets 13s last night 2-0. It was earned as well. The Jets were technically better but the 1 trick pony gve tactics is terrible. The TSP we re allowed to use a variety of options and it worked. The jets coaching setup is a joke and it's not necessarily the individual coaches fault.
Sounds like you are describing one team playing long ball tactics to get the win, while the other team played possession football to help develop their skills and not worrying about the scoreline. That sounds like what most academies do at the junior level.

[WOW2.0]

People have the memories of goldfish on here. Complained about TSP for the under 12s (particularly around the girls) run by northern last year.

Compared to the TSP from what I seen last year where there was a billion kids (and the sessions were considerably slower) the sessions this year have been a smaller group, but the pace and skill definitely a step up from club - which is what I thought the whole point was. The sessions have been miles ahead for the girls this year compared to what was being offered for them last year in TSP at the same age point.

The older TSPs get one game a fortnight now - no training - no specialised goalkeeper training - This is where the gap is going to grow.

There doesn't seem to be many girls doing the pre academy this year...I believe there was around 20 in the TSP last year?

There does appear to be a lot of boys though...looks like 3 tiers of 15 boys in the 12s age bracket, that would be 45 and on par with the 44 that 12s TSP had last year. Not sure the numbers are really any different for them.

I wonder if the decline in number of girls participating is linked to the greater costs. And the perceived "investment return". Last year it was $90 for a (10 week?) term. Now it is $295 for an 8 week term (same costs as Sydney FC run their version of pre academy...they of course own the Jets now)

(Having said that, I haven't any issue with anyone making money, and the attempts to find the clubs future)

As a parent, things I would have expected/liked to see there (knowing someone will read this and wreck my son's chances...cause that's just the way things work): anyway...feedback to parents/kids on what any particular kids should be working on to improve their chances of being picked (or to improve their football in general)

More experienced coaches (many are kids from the academy, and they don't seem to have a lot of interest...tier 1 has Damien Zane by comparison.

More drills/technical development

The tier 1 group lost to the tier 2 group again last Monday night, but kids aren't cycling through the tiers as I'd have thought this would result in.

Just my two cents :)

[Taffy]

More experienced coaches (many are kids from the academy, and they don't seem to have a lot of interest

$36/hour to be coached by a teenager who doesn't really want to be there.

[Aegon]

disagree. the talent of the kids alone have achieved this. That is inspite of the backward thinking gve has bought.

I was with a mate watching pre academy when i popped over to watch Jets TSP 13s. The NNSW TSP boys u13s beat the full strength Jets 13s last night 2-0. It was earned as well. The Jets were technically better but the 1 trick pony gve tactics is terrible. The TSP we re allowed to use a variety of options and it worked. The jets coaching setup is a joke and it's not necessarily the individual coaches fault.

I didn't see the whole game but from what I did watch:

The 13's age group is extremely deep in talented players
There are a heap of players in the 13's TSP group B that are good enough to play in FNSW NPL Youth 1 teams
The game was played to a high standard by both teams
I thought the jets were the better team for most of the game but didn't convert their chances


The jets 13's are currently 5th in Youth League 1 half way into the season.
Overall you could swap a bunch of boys between TSP and the jets 13's and maintain the same level of ability.
Unfortunately some quality kids missed selection and will every year due to how many excellent players there are in that age group.
Maybe NNSWF should consider entering teams in FNSW NPL Youth if the talent pool is as consistently deep in future years.

[Taffy]

The 13's age group is extremely deep in talented players
There are a heap of players in the 13's TSP group B that are good enough to play in FNSW NPL Youth 1 teams

Overall you could swap a bunch of boys between TSP and the jets 13's and maintain the same level of ability.

This is the second cohort of JDL kids, yet people say that JDL has not been good for developing a greater pool of talented players.

[Aegon]

Moved a bunch of posts here and renamed the thread to cater for pre-academy conversations.

[Eastwest]

Sounds like you are describing one team playing long ball tactics to get the win, while the other team played possession football to help develop their skills and not worrying about the scoreline. That sounds like what most academies do at the junior level.

Hate to disappoint your well run out theory but Jets don't have the necessary variation that I've seen when i lived in Sydney and watching some their Academy teams.

True theyre not perfect either but the gve culture isnt a good fit for developing youth.

Being 5th in NPl isnt down to the coaching. These kids are talented enough to be there.

Theres one lad who should definitively be in the jets 13s but isn't. Does he not know the "right" crowd?

[Aegon]

Theres one lad who should definitively be in the jets 13s but isn't. Does he not know the "right" crowd?

This is a tough sell. I don't think there is any one player that stands out above and beyond the rest of the TSP cohort or any single player that is obviously better than a player already selected in their position.

I personally think you could interchange many of the jets and TSP kids and not see much of a difference at all. I do not agree that replacing any individual is going to make a significant improvement.

[WOW2.0]

...
Theres one lad who should definitively be in the jets 13s but isn't. Does he not know the "right" crowd?

Was watching some Will John (US international, son of a Nigerian International) videos the other week, while pretending to be busy at work and one comment he made struck out, was along the lines of, 'nothing is fair in football or life, you just have to persevere and find ways around the roadblocks, if you really want it'...he called out specifically other people getting opportunities who aren't as good as others missing out, favours, people linked to clubs, etc...which is pretty obvious, but still the acknowledgement made me feel better

[Taffy]

Thought on the announcement of Jets and Lakes joining forces together? Heard a lot of talk over the weekend both good and bad. Set to help Lakes with players being cut from the Academy told to go play for Lakes and senior players being loaned out to Lakes, should help them get off the bottom of the ladder and avoid relegation next year.

[Captain_Carl]

Thought on the announcement of Jets and Lakes joining forces together? Heard a lot of talk over the weekend both good and bad. Set to help Lakes with players being cut from the Academy told to go play for Lakes and senior players being loaned out to Lakes, should help them get off the bottom of the ladder and avoid relegation next year.

No player can be told they need to go play for any club. Lakes are big losers out of this deal. Do you honestly believe a player almost good enough for Jets will opt for a tier 2 club? I think not!

[Bremsstrahlung]

Sounds like Jets just want to play on some grass.
Aside from the academy being next door, I’m a little puzzled.
Granted, not sure how it’s all going to work.
But if I was a player cut from Jets program, I don’t think I’m going to play for Lakes. Unless there’s a massive overhaul of the Lakes squad, ambitions, junior development and they revert back to their kits and I can play in their navy and white kit from 2010 (ish).

[ForeverRed]

I?d give it a couple of years and lakes may not be around

[BS detecor]

No player can be told they need to go play for any club. Lakes are big losers out of this deal. Do you honestly believe a player almost good enough for Jets will opt for a tier 2 club? I think not!

It?s just Hunter sports high v2.0. Remember when all the jets kids were going to go to school there in exchange for use of the fields.

[Eastwest]

Sounds like Jets just want to play on some grass.
Aside from the academy being next door, I’m a little puzzled.
Granted, not sure how it’s all going to work.
But if I was a player cut from Jets program, I don’t think I’m going to play for Lakes. Unless there’s a massive overhaul of the Lakes squad, ambitions, junior development and they revert back to their kits and I can play in their navy and white kit from 2010 (ish).

:roflz::roflz::roflz: yep. On the whole, the comp is more even than ever. Their are plenty of choices.

There's an elite strut going on at the moment in their corridors. Good luck to them.

[sapdad]

I?d give it a couple of years and lakes may not be around

What makes you say that?

[ForeverRed]

What makes you say that?
I don?t see them surviving if/when they are relegated from NPL, hopefully I?m wrong.

[Taffy]

I don?t see them surviving if/when they are relegated from NPL, hopefully I?m wrong.

They'll survive and just play NewFM, probably be good for the club to get a wake up call.

[WOW2.0]

I also think it's a tough ask to expect a kid to leave the Jets to go play at Lakes (relegation is a real threat to the club, and the gap is a big obviously a big one)...and what happens to the kid already at Lakes, when someone gets dumped out of the Jets mid season and takes their spot?

Hopefully it works out well for them though...we all love underdog stories

[KITZ]

Thought on the announcement of Jets and Lakes joining forces together? Heard a lot of talk over the weekend both good and bad. Set to help Lakes with players being cut from the Academy told to go play for Lakes and senior players being loaned out to Lakes, should help them get off the bottom of the ladder and avoid relegation next year.

Its really unfortunate that people here can't read a press release properly and have literally gone and made a heap of s$$t up.

The press release states that its a strategic partnership to work together on continuing facility Improvements and likely some sharing of the facilities (lakes have a 2 million dollar facility redevelopment that is not far away from beginning and 500k in the bank for raising the pitch), in return the jets will share their coaching knowledge and expertise - maybe coaches will go sit in on a session or they will share session plans and education or something.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the local competition and the players (or youth players) in it.

so instead of taking the time to read something and maybe ask the club some actual proper questions, people have decided to get on some conspiracy theory world is flat train wreck and bag the club out instead. :wtf::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I cannot facepalm this chain of commentary enough.

[ForeverRed]

Its really unfortunate that people here can't read a press release properly and have literally gone and made a heap of s$$t up.

The press release states that its a strategic partnership to work together on continuing facility Improvements and likely some sharing of the facilities (lakes have a 2 million dollar facility redevelopment that is not far away from beginning and 500k in the bank for raising the pitch), in return the jets will share their coaching knowledge and expertise - maybe coaches will go sit in on a session or they will share session plans and education or something.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the local competition and the players (or youth players) in it.

so instead of taking the time to read something and maybe ask the club some actual proper questions, people have decided to get on some conspiracy theory world is flat train wreck and bag the club out instead. :wtf::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I cannot facepalm this chain of commentary enough.
Or something 🤷*♂️

[MFKS]

Its really unfortunate that people here can't read a press release properly and have literally gone and made a heap of s$$t up.

The press release states that its a strategic partnership to work together on continuing facility Improvements and likely some sharing of the facilities (lakes have a 2 million dollar facility redevelopment that is not far away from beginning and 500k in the bank for raising the pitch), in return the jets will share their coaching knowledge and expertise - maybe coaches will go sit in on a session or they will share session plans and education or something.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the local competition and the players (or youth players) in it.

so instead of taking the time to read something and maybe ask the club some actual proper questions, people have decided to get on some conspiracy theory world is flat train wreck and bag the club out instead. :wtf::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I cannot facepalm this chain of commentary enough.

What expertise are the Jets offering??

They can't develop players to play for a HAL side as shit as ours already

[Barry Dawson]

If you think this as innocent as the media portrays, and politics around players won?t become a factor - you?re lacking a real understanding of the local football environment.
All you need to do is look at the relationship between some of the key academy coaches and their linkages back to clubs.
And you may have forgotten a federation TD ended in the Fair Work Commission around issues of transparency a few years back after being sacked. And lost.
Yeah - people are making up s$$t

[Taffy]

Its really unfortunate that people here can't read a press release properly and have literally gone and made a heap of s$$t up.

maybe ask the club some actual proper questions, people have decided to get on some conspiracy theory world.

Just for the record I did ask and speak to members of the Lakes Committee. No conspiracy theory here.

[Eastwest]

What expertise are the Jets offering??

They can't develop players to play for a HAL side as shit as ours already

I'd like to disagree with this but there's no evidence of a strong development culture.
As much as we may dislike the CCM they kick our ass in producing youth talent who start out no better then the Jets lads.

[Eastwest]

And you may have forgotten a federation TD ended in the Fair Work Commission around issues of transparency a few years back after being sacked. And lost.
That should be public info so as I cant remember who was that?

[Taffy]

I'd like to disagree with this but there's no evidence of a strong development culture.
As much as we may dislike the CCM they kick our ass in producing youth talent who start out no better then the Jets lads.

About a quarter of them are Jets lads or Newcastle/Hunter lads looked over by Jets or dropped by Jets.

[WOW2.0]

Aren't a lot of the Jets coaches already coaching in club land in any case

The lack of players transitioning to the A-League probably is a valid critique...even just across the local scene

[KITZ]

Aren't a lot of the Jets coaches already coaching in club land in any case

The lack of players transitioning to the A-League probably is a valid critique...even just across the local scene

Honestly nothing has changed in the jets system in a decade. They claimed to be running open trials this year, only for players that "couldn't make it" be put straight in to the train on squad, or were already training with the existing age groups before the trials anyway.

You can't tell them that young kids are human beings though and deserve a bit of transparency and honesty though (not a handout, just be honest and don't waste peoples time) - especially those that were part of the pre-academy and handed another $300 invitation AFTER THE TRIALS saying hey we'd like to have you in our pre-academy again, without feedback from said "open trial".

Hard to keep giving the club any benefit of incoming change when young people can't even be afforded a smidge of respect as human beings or respond to an email for that matter, all they are going to end up doing is losing more and more of the supporter base.

They just need to do better, and mostly in the areas that have zero to do with the actual football, and maybe respond to an email every now and then as well.

[Taffy]

You can't tell them that young kids are human beings though and deserve a bit of transparency and honesty though (not a handout, just be honest and don't waste peoples time) - especially those that were part of the pre-academy and handed another $300 invitation AFTER THE TRIALS saying hey we'd like to have you in our pre-academy again, without feedback from said "open trial".

Hard to keep giving the club any benefit of incoming change when young people can't even be afforded a smidge of respect as human beings or respond to an email for that matter, all they are going to end up doing is losing more and more of the supporter base.

I feel sorry for the U12s kids and parents in the pre-academy this year who were told that if they want to be in the U13s they have to join the pre-academy only to then rock up to the trials and see plenty of kids that were never part of the pre-academy invited in.

Just like this rubbish with Lakes, we've been approached saying the pathway into the Jets is to come to Lakes, yet I know kids at other clubs have been invited in to train with the Jets with a view to select them for next year.

[Eastwest]

I feel sorry for the U12s kids and parents in the pre-academy this year who were told that if they want to be in the U13s they have to join the pre-academy only to then rock up to the trials and see plenty of kids that were never part of the pre-academy invited in.

Just like this rubbish with Lakes, we've been approached saying the pathway into the Jets is to come to Lakes, yet I know kids at other clubs have been invited in to train with the Jets with a view to select them for next year.

GVE's and his mates pay day.

But! the academy was pretty close to falling over before this happened so want do you want in the end i guess.

[Taffy]

GVE's and his mates pay day.

But! the academy was pretty close to falling over before this happened so want do you want in the end i guess.

Shame they can't be honest rather than showing why the academy can't be trusted and that kids should look to get in Mariners instead if they want to step up from PYL.

[JettyJet]

Shame they can't be honest rather than showing why the academy can't be trusted and that kids should look to get in Mariners instead if they want to step up from PYL.

Anyone that thinks other Academies don't have similar issues is delusional. CCM, WSW and Sydney all have their issues.

[Taffy]

Heard nothing but good things from parents/players who are currently at the Mariners, can't say the same for those at Jets. As for WSW, wouldn't know but 1 guess who was running that program up to the end of last year.

[JettyJet]

Heard nothing but good things from parents/players who are currently at the Mariners, can't say the same for those at Jets. As for WSW, wouldn't know but 1 guess who was running that program up to the end of last year.

Of course it would be positive from the players and parents that have been selected. The area is very toxic towards the Jets Academy. It has issues just like CCM. Ask the 13's and 14's about the program at CCM....
I don't need to guess about who was running what and where.

[The Postman]

If my kids were of age I think I would take my chances down the Coast. Compared to the Jets youth the last god knows how many years. Look at the Mariners youth system and how many have been promoted through to the HAL. And how many have gone overseas!

How local Newcastle products have made out of Australia? I honestly can?t remember the last one.

And I don?t count Mauragis going overseas either.

[Taffy]

Of course it would be positive from the players and parents that have been selected.

The stuff I hear about Jets includes from parents and players who have been selected


The area is very toxic towards the Jets Academy.

Have you ever thought that it may be the actions of the Jets staff that is the reason for this? The bullshit, the lies, the way players get treated?


It has issues just like CCM. Ask the 13's and 14's about the program at CCM....

The parents and players I know are in those age groups.


I don't need to guess about who was running what and where.

No you don't because it was the same person running it till they booted him last year and now these issues are appearing up here

[JettyJet]

The stuff I hear about Jets includes from parents and players who have been selected
Similar issues plague most clubs.



Have you ever thought that it may be the actions of the Jets staff that is the reason for this? The bullshit, the lies, the way players get treated?
That's all subjective. Same can be said of other Academies.



The parents and players I know are in those age groups.
They must enjoy getting smashed most weeks and playing terrible football. Oh and not developing.



No you don't because it was the same person running it till they booted him last year and now these issues are appearing up here

WSW were flying last year and every year prior, mostly due to the work of Ian Crook. WSW issues have started since Bosnar and Culina this year and late 2022.

[JettyJet]

If my kids were of age I think I would take my chances down the Coast. Compared to the Jets youth the last god knows how many years. Look at the Mariners youth system and how many have been promoted through to the HAL. And how many have gone overseas!

How local Newcastle products have made out of Australia? I honestly can?t remember the last one.

And I don?t count Mauragis going overseas either.

Have a closer look at the players progressing. How many local Central Coast products have made it into the A-League or out of Australia?

[pv4]

How local Newcastle products have made out of Australia? I honestly can?t remember the last one.

Can we claim Connor Metcalfe or is it fair to say he is basically a Melbourne product.

[ElJefe]

Locals

Trent Buhagiar
Lachlan Wales
Jacob Farrell
Cameron windust
Harry Steele
Sasha Kuzevski
Mat hatch


Players who played in the NPL youth teams

Josh Nisbett
Dan Hall
Kye Rowles - now in Scotland
Max Ballard
Charles Mwomba
Lewis Miller - now in Scotland
Joe Gauci
Alou Kuol
Garang Kuol
Dylan Ruiz Diaz
Gianni Stensness - Denmark

All players who have been with the Mariners academy within the last 6 years.

[Taffy]

Good work ignoring why there are issues.

[JettyJet]

Trent Buhagiar
Lachlan Wales
Jacob Farrell
Cameron windust
Harry Steele
Sasha Kuzevski
Mat hatch

These are all genuine local Central Coast NPL Youth team players from the Academy.
There is one Newcastle junior playing for the NPL1 Team on a scholarship Larson.

Josh Nisbett
Dan Hall-
Kye Rowles - now in Scotland
Max Ballard
Charles Mwomba
Lewis Miller - now in Scotland
Joe Gauci
Alou Kuol
Garang Kuol
Dylan Ruiz Diaz
Gianni Stensness -

All the others were effectively recruited into the Senior NPL Space 18's or over. Ie not the Youth Academy.
Similar players would be Millard, Triantis, Di-Pizio, Pavlesic, Paul, Kasalavic etc

[ElJefe]

Correct. But I think you can agree the recruitment strategy of bringing players in who are 17, 18 years old to gain experience in NPL has been productive for the Mariners and the Jets have fallen behind in the recruitment of these players. The central coast has approx 330k people comparatively to newcastle + Hunter of 1m+ but the mariners are producing more players who move onto the A League at the moment. Might have been the jets previous coach not promoting youth for this but the Jets are behind in this area.

[Singlespeed]

The Jets will always struggle to recruit good players at that age as they are playing in League 2. Until they promoted to the top tier (2 years at best). It will always be a struggle. That was always going to be the case and was a long term plan. That also causes issues with playing Jets Academy players in the Aleague as the jump from 3rd teir NPL to Aleague is a big jump in quality/speed etc.

[Eastwest]

No you don't because it was the same person running it till they booted him last year and now these issues are appearing up here

Interestingly, Who was running it down there last year?

[Taffy]

interestingly, who was running it down there last year?

gve

[JettyJet]

Incorrect.
It was Ian C then JP.

[JettyJet]

Club Championship.... Interesting

[samcan]

Club Championship.... Interesting

yeah. 10th 8th 8th 9th 2nd gets you up the championship. false accolades for mine.

until gve and his sycophants move on it isnt the place to develop quality footballers. Ask those around the game.

[Retired01]

yeah. 10th 8th 8th 9th 2nd gets you up the championship. false accolades for mine.

until gve and his sycophants move on it isnt the place to develop quality footballers. Ask those around the game.


You all need to learn other members names instead of simply rubbishing GVE every single time as the other fool in this mess is Mark Robson. Go and do your homework on the guy and you will learn alot about his input.

[Retired01]

OMFG from the lack of response you all know about this and continue to bad mouth GVE. I?ve met both these men and have upfront given my opinion face to face so don?t call me a keyboard warrior. Yea indeed Gary has his issue but has qualifications and experience but this guy is ruining the representative pathways of football for your children and only yourselves to blame.

[KITZ]

Of course it would be positive from the players and parents that have been selected. The area is very toxic towards the Jets Academy. It has issues just like CCM. Ask the 13's and 14's about the program at CCM....
I don't need to guess about who was running what and where.

not toxic, just have been doing this for a decade before driving 4 hours to Sydney and back to play football this year outside of the academies, and the problems I have aren't even with same kid. Feedback is actual experience, simple changes make for a much better product and wellbeing outcomes for kids that play football in the region. I say these things KNOWING the impact it will have on my own kids one who full well knows he could win an NPL grand final in Sydney and never get a look in at the jets and he is in he process of starting to work with player agents to likely try and go overseas in the next few years.

Edit: I have provided this feedback directly to the club and received 0 response in regards to the wellbeing issues it raises as well as the multitudes of conflicts of interest in the girls space - for a player that was part of their pre academy for the entire year.

[JettyJet]

not toxic, just have been doing this for a decade before driving 4 hours to Sydney and back to play football this year outside of the academies, and the problems I have aren't even with same kid. Feedback is actual experience, simple changes make for a much better product and wellbeing outcomes for kids that play football in the region. I say these things KNOWING the impact it will have on my own kids one who full well knows he could win an NPL grand final in Sydney and never get a look in at the jets and he is in he process of starting to work with player agents to likely try and go overseas in the next few years.

Edit: I have provided this feedback directly to the club and received 0 response in regards to the wellbeing issues it raises as well as the multitudes of conflicts of interest in the girls space - for a player that was part of their pre academy for the entire year.

Again every Academy has it's issues, just like every parent has an opinion about ability. Players have different pathways, but to condemn or praise one Academy over another without having a clue what goes on in others is pointless.

[samcan]

Again every Academy has it's issues, just like every parent has an opinion about ability. Players have different pathways, but to condemn or praise one Academy over another without having a clue what goes on in others is pointless.

Idiot. Kitz is talking from experience. Most of us are. jog on clown

[pty22]

I can respond but I will need 100 pages or more, as would the tonnes of people who all share the same opinion as you. this is why truckloads of good players have left in the past year or are leaving and why good coaches have all left and why no decent coach in NSW wants to be associated with this Academy being run to the ground by the current management. A magnitude of complaints against TDS for severe bullying and harassment and they are still allowed to be around young people.

[pty22]

tell us about the conflict of interest... we know its rife across all age groups boys and girls.

[Taffy]

I can respond but I will need 100 pages or more, as would the tonnes of people who all share the same opinion as you. this is why truckloads of good players have left in the past year or are leaving and why good coaches have all left and why no decent coach in NSW wants to be associated with this Academy being run to the ground by the current management. A magnitude of complaints against TDS for severe bullying and harassment and they are still allowed to be around young people.

Jetty will probably come in and say in every academy coaches kick bins at young players or calls them retards.

[WOW2.0]

I heard those stories from quite a few different parents...it's absolutely shocking and absolutely soured my feelings toward the club

If it was one source of the complaints, could dismiss it as sour grapes...but not 20+ in various age groups :-O

[JettyJet]

Jetty will probably come in and say in every academy coaches kick bins at young players or calls them retards.

That's completely unacceptable if true. However if you replace bin with water bottle or chair and replace retard with other terms and I've heard the same complaints at other Academies and even seen some local NPL clubs do the same.
This behavior whilst unacceptable is not isolated to Newcastle, as for conflict of interest, you're all being somewhat na?ve, try most of the Sydney clubs and their selection of particular selected ethnicities all the way to the professional teams.
Using words like "tonnes", "loads" and "magnitude" is a tad of an over exaggeration. I'd suggest the "loads" of players that have left the program have improved the teams performances considerably, from a results perspective anyway.

[Taffy]

Well it is true, and I think everyone is aware of how the ethnic teams operate, even some of our own used to be like that (or rather aren't as bad as they were), your surname ending in "ski" used to mean being a shoe in. We are well aware that the supporters of 58 complain because there weren't enough players in first grade ending in "ic". This doesn't make it right for the Jets to have coaches simply selecting players from their own club.


Good thing Northern selected their nationals teams this year. Had one Jets coach telling the selectors who they had to pick because the coach had already selected them for Jets next year as though it means anything.

[samcan]

You all need to learn other members names instead of simply rubbishing GVE every single time as the other fool in this mess is Mark Robson. Go and do your homework on the guy and you will learn alot about his input.

No lecture needed there. That was a given for those that know the situation. Unlike those with no idea shooting off their fat mouths because the Jets name maybe tarnished.

[samcan]

Well it is true, and I think everyone is aware of how the ethnic teams operate, even some of our own used to be like that (or rather aren't as bad as they were), your surname ending in "ski" used to mean being a shoe in. We are well aware that the supporters of 58 complain because there weren't enough players in first grade ending in "ic". This doesn't make it right for the Jets to have coaches simply selecting players from their own club.

Correct. Today however you have to pay the correct training group to get front row seats.
Now, the large majority there are the best but there are a couple of favour fillins which does hamper results.
But lets not think for one minute that this doesnt happen in nearly every other setup to some degree.

[samcan]

I can respond but I will need 100 pages or more, as would the tonnes of people who all share the same opinion as you. this is why truckloads of good players have left in the past year or are leaving and why good coaches have all left and why no decent coach in NSW wants to be associated with this Academy being run to the ground by the current management. A magnitude of complaints against TDS for severe bullying and harassment and they are still allowed to be around young people.

Sad but seemingly true

[Doopche]

Why was my comment deleted? Did I offend someone?

[Doopche]

This is what?s wrong with today?s society. Bunch of snowflakes and it stems from the parents. So when Sir Alex kicked a boot at Beckham you all probably applauded it, when coaches like Dez hassler kicked the door off the hinges to fire up his team you probably all laughed. But a coach has called a kid a retard or shit or hopeless and kicked a bin in anger it?s the end of the world. I hope your kids don?t ever get the opportunity to play overseas because they will be in for a rude shock if you think being called a retard is bad.
Harden up people or just pull your kids out and send them to Mr positive down in community.

[The Magician]

Why was my comment deleted? Did I offend someone?

You are not allowed to make comments regarding open court cases.

[Taffy]

Fancy thinking that you treat 12yos the same as multi-millionaire adults

[Doopche]

Fancy thinking that you treat 12yos the same as multi-millionaire adults
Last time I checked I didn?t see a Jets under 12s team playing in NSW NPL. It was an under 15s or 16s game so I?m sure kids that age can handle some criticism. Maybe if we still had the cane in schools we wouldn?t have so many spoilt little shits around. I know we definitely wouldn?t have kid?s identify themselves as lions and cats. You?re part of the problem.

[Taffy]

Last time I checked I didn?t see a Jets under 12s team playing in NSW NPL. It was an under 15s or 16s game so I?m sure kids that age can handle some criticism. Maybe if we still had the cane in schools we wouldn?t have so many spoilt little shits around. I know we definitely wouldn?t have kid?s identify themselves as lions and cats. You?re part of the problem.

I think you will find that 12yos play in U13s. At least you still acknowledge them as kids but seem to think kicking items into their face is acceptable because it happened in the 90s between two adults.

[Doopche]

I think you will find that 12yos play in U13s. At least you still acknowledge them as kids but seem to think kicking items into their face is acceptable because it happened in the 90s between two adults.
Don?t let the truth get in the way of a good story. 1st you said it was under 12s kid and I told you it wasn?t it was a 15yr old and now apparently he kicked the bin in his face? Pretty sure it was just kicked the bin in the shed which flew across the room. Had the bin hit him in the face I don?t think the kids father/ mother would still have him playing there. Correct me if I?m wrong but the kid still plays there yes?
And also I know of the coach that kicked the bin and from what I know he couldn?t kick a cow in the guts so no way he?s managed to kick the bin at his head.

[TopCorner]

This is what?s wrong with today?s society. Bunch of snowflakes and it stems from the parents. So when Sir Alex kicked a boot at Beckham you all probably applauded it, when coaches like Dez hassler kicked the door off the hinges to fire up his team you probably all laughed. But a coach has called a kid a retard or shit or hopeless and kicked a bin in anger it?s the end of the world. I hope your kids don?t ever get the opportunity to play overseas because they will be in for a rude shock if you think being called a retard is bad.
Harden up people or just pull your kids out and send them to Mr positive down in community.

Great insight from a current NNSWF PYL U13 coach. :sigh:

[samcan]

Great insight from a current NNSWF PYL U13 coach. :sigh:

The very same as hated by coaches all over town?

[samcan]

You are not allowed to make comments regarding open court cases.

News to me as well.

[Doopche]

Oh are we playing guess who again? Can I play?

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[Aegon]

Why was my comment deleted? Did I offend someone?

You deleted your own message, the log says:
This message has been deleted by Doopche."

[Doopche]

You deleted your own message, the log says:
This message has been deleted by Doopche."

Apologies, I may have to go see my IT guy for a crash course. You Y generation are to computer savvy for me. I still use a post office to pay bills and my idea of pay wave is handing over cash and waving at the teller.

[Taffy]

Don?t let the truth get in the way of a good story. 1st you said it was under 12s kid and I told you it wasn?t it was a 15yr old and now apparently he kicked the bin in his face? Pretty sure it was just kicked the bin in the shed which flew across the room. Had the bin hit him in the face I don?t think the kids father/ mother would still have him playing there. Correct me if I?m wrong but the kid still plays there yes?
And also I know of the coach that kicked the bin and from what I know he couldn?t kick a cow in the guts so no way he?s managed to kick the bin at his head.

You need to re-read what I wrote.

If we only talk about this one particular incident, since his mouth got cut open from the incident then yes it hit him in the face.

[WOW2.0]

You need to re-read what I wrote.

If we only talk about this one particular incident, since his mouth got cut open from the incident then yes it hit him in the face.

Never spoken to a parent of a kid at the Jets, in any age group, that is happy there. Not since the new direction of the club...entire business model of the academy seems to rely entirely on the fear of "missing out" to drive demand

[TopCorner]

Never spoken to a parent of a kid at the Jets, in any age group, that is happy there. Not since the new direction of the club...entire business model of the academy seems to rely entirely on the fear of "missing out" to drive demand

Yes but remember the Jets are as bad as every other academy and these snowflake kids need to be thankful they aren?t in a European Academy. 🙄

[Taffy]

Never spoken to a parent of a kid at the Jets, in any age group, that is happy there. Not since the new direction of the club...entire business model of the academy seems to rely entirely on the fear of "missing out" to drive demand

Appears to be the way, parents were told that if they want to be selected in the U13s Jets for next season they need to be in the pre-academy, they weren't happy when it came to trials and all these kids who were never part of the pre-academy were there, some ended up being selected.

Next rubbish claim is those that get cut from the academy should go play for Lakes if they want to be reselected. But we'll see cut kids go back to their old clubs and be invited back into training and selected not to mention kids from other clubs get invited into training and selected as well.

[Doopche]

You need to re-read what I wrote.

If we only talk about this one particular incident, since his mouth got cut open from the incident then yes it hit him in the face.

Look I wasn?t there, I?m just going off what I heard on the grape vine.
You probably know more than me mate so I?ll take your word for it, that?s if you can take anything off this forum being true.
Gotta love newy soccer and the rumour mill. What would we all do without gossip hey, everyone on this forum is all about the gossip and that?s why we are all here, to throw mud and hate at people behind fake accounts with the very odd occasion positive content. That?s what this forum is all about isn?t it? Don?t kid yourselves if you think you?re not here for the 1st 2.
Some will say it?s useful soccer talk, but let?s be honest no one is here to read little frank scored a nice goal today or this team kicks off at 3pm today. You and I are all here to talk crap and stir people up and see what new stories have evolved over the weekend so we can call our buddy?s to chit chat.
For eg people think I?m a soccer coach which is cool, but I definitely wouldn?t have you guys solving a murder mystery that?s for sure. But if that fits the narrative then I can be who you say I am.
What?s a soccer coach if he?s not hated by other coaches. I?m sure every other coach in A lge loved papas this year because he gave them 3 points every week. I?d rather be the hated one that doesn?t give them gifts tbh. The hated ones are the good ones I reckon. So from now on please refer to me as Coach Doopche the chosen one 🤦*♂️

[TopCorner]

...can call our buddy's to chit chat.


No time for that. You got that big PYL Cup Semi tonight. :dry:

[Doopche]

No time for that. You got that big PYL Cup Semi tonight. :dry:
Oh do i, sounds exciting? I?ll have to check the diary. Who am I playing so I can do some study. Calling a PYL game ?big? is my point hahah. Only thing big about PYL football is your registration costs. Bigger game for the parents than the kids by the sounds. Can I watch it on bar tv or is this game that big it?s covered by optus?

[Taffy]

No time for that. You got that big PYL Cup Semi tonight. :dry:

Oh now I know who he is

[TopCorner]

Oh do i, sounds exciting? I?ll have to check the diary. Who am I playing so I can do some study. Calling a PYL game ?big? is my point hahah. Only thing big about PYL football is your registration costs. Bigger game for the parents than the kids by the sounds. Can I watch it on bar tv or is this game that big it?s covered by optus?

Good result Coach 👏 ?

[pty22]

Snowflakes? You?re saying the young girl that got verbally acosted and called a retard by GVE?s other minion RC is a snowflake and should harden up? He got red card and she got shamed infront of spectators.
These young aspiring Matildas are being ?coached? by bullies under the Grand Master Bully so why don?t they just show him and his minions the door?

[pty22]

This is what?s wrong with today?s society. Bunch of snowflakes and it stems from the parents. So when Sir Alex kicked a boot at Beckham you all probably applauded it, when coaches like Dez hassler kicked the door off the hinges to fire up his team you probably all laughed. But a coach has called a kid a retard or shit or hopeless and kicked a bin in anger it?s the end of the world. I hope your kids don?t ever get the opportunity to play overseas because they will be in for a rude shock if you think being called a retard is bad.
Harden up people or just pull your kids out and send them to Mr positive down in community.


Snowflakes? You?re saying the young girl that got verbally acosted and called a retard by GVE?s other minion RC is a snowflake and should harden up? He got red card and she got shamed infront of spectators.
These young aspiring Matildas are being ?coached? by bullies under Master Bully so why don?t they just show him and his minions the door?

[JettyJet]

Why doesn't someone report it to the FA? Surely that's better than wild vague hyperbole on an echo chamber forum.....

[WOW2.0]

@TopCorner
My niece was in a European Academy, Westhams, from quite young until about 17...never heard a story like what I hear from the Jets these days

[WOW2.0]

Why doesn't someone report it to the FA? Surely that's better than wild vague hyperbole on an echo chamber forum.....

Fear of having "opportunities" taken away, would be my guess

[Eastwest]

Fear of having "opportunities" taken away, would be my guess

For sure but sometimes the "opportunity" is best elsewhere.

[Eastwest]

Interesting how some players that were bought in during the season werent retained. Think the Academy needs a real football scout not the pay to play version.

[TopCorner]

Interesting how some players that were bought in during the season werent retained. Think the Academy needs a real football scout not the pay to play version.

Focus is on having the best 16 players right now rather than seeing the potential, having faith in their own programs and developing the players they already have.

[Taffy]

Focus is on having the best 16 players right now rather than seeing the potential, having faith in their own programs and developing the players they already have.

Wonder how many they will change over the next 12 months as well

[Eastwest]

Wonder how many they will change over the next 12 months as well

around 4 players each year min so nearly a new team every 4 years.

[Taffy]

around 4 players each year min so nearly a new team every 4 years.

I meant more out of those selected now for next year will be changed around during the season like they did this year

[samcan]

I meant more out of those selected now for next year will be changed around during the season like they did this year

Yeah ok.
Well this regime came in very late last year so hopefully less changes on one hand but on the other when players start being ostracized and getting little game time and or not developing players will jump out again.
So to answer you question yes. Players will come and go throughout the year IMO.

I know not all academies operate this way after spending time in Sydney previously

[The Magician]

Yeah ok.
Well this regime came in very late last year so hopefully less changes on one hand but on the other when players start being ostracized and getting little game time and or not developing players will jump out again.
So to answer you question yes. Players will come and go throughout the year IMO.

I know not all academies operate this way after spending time in Sydney previously

Parents are well aware of the 35% guarenteed game time clause when they join the Jets. Which may include midweek intraclub trials.

Hearing Jets 14s moving to Jaffas for 2024.

[samcan]

Parents are well aware of the 35% guarenteed game time clause when they join the Jets. Which may include midweek intraclub trials.

Hearing Jets 14s moving to Jaffas for 2024.

More than 2?

[Taffy]

Parents are well aware of the 35% guarenteed game time clause when they join the Jets. Which may include midweek intraclub trials.

Tbf to the kids this year that was only announced early March this year


Hearing Jets 14s moving to Jaffas for 2024.

Helps to have a coach at Jets and at Jaffas, but what happened to this big link between Jets and Lakes where Jets who were cut would go to Lakes to play and get to continue to train with the Jets 2 times a week?

[The Magician]

Tbf to the kids this year that was only announced early March this year



Helps to have a coach at Jets and at Jaffas, but what happened to this big link between Jets and Lakes where Jets who were cut would go to Lakes to play and get to continue to train with the Jets 2 times a week?


The Jets and Lakes partnership is a land grab even Captain Cook would be proud of.

[TopCorner]

https://www.ccutd.com/officialpartnership?fbclid=IwAR19_mmJhZZxRQPw78Toz QWm795zSuT50cX1McLaEkSr5sgSCMSZlKrAJbE_aem_AYudWAd piNvO9Go5murJ0glfTEdmx5gM9X5XxRW0mAZnmDicjYifSFOe_ 4iv3QfYIOM

Didn?t even need to give their training ground away 🤣

[WOW2.0]

I think it's fair to say, the Jets are not run well on any level (only worse since the last owner ran away)...and sadly, is beset by quite a lot of conflict of interest issues that really shouldn't exist if the true goal was to develop potentially skilled players into something "saleable" at the end

[JettyJet]

https://www.ccutd.com/officialpartnership?fbclid=IwAR19_mmJhZZxRQPw78Toz QWm795zSuT50cX1McLaEkSr5sgSCMSZlKrAJbE_aem_AYudWAd piNvO9Go5murJ0glfTEdmx5gM9X5XxRW0mAZnmDicjYifSFOe_ 4iv3QfYIOM

Didn?t even need to give their training ground away ��

They trot out this announcement ever year, they've held joint trials of sorts for years....

[Eastwest]

I think it's fair to say, the Jets are not run well on any level (only worse since the last owner ran away)...and sadly, is beset by quite a lot of conflict of interest issues that really shouldn't exist if the true goal was to develop potentially skilled players into something "saleable" at the end

accurate.

Partly explains why we have the 23s in div 3 who were on top mid season slip into non promotion territory. why would anyone stay around to play in that comp. That is a red flag.

[TopCorner]

They trot out this announcement ever year, they've held joint trials of sorts for years....

Not the point I was making.

This looks like a genuine partnership with clear opportunities and a pathway from Community through to NPL2 and NPL1.

[JettyJet]

Not the point I was making.

This looks like a genuine partnership with clear opportunities and a pathway from Community through to NPL2 and NPL1.

Aaaaand it's been that way for years... The re-announcement is probably more to do with them getting relegated and wanting to keep players and make $$$.

[Taffy]

Not the point he was making

[pty22]

.

[TopCorner]

Aaaaand it's been that way for years... The re-announcement is probably more to do with them getting relegated and wanting to keep players and make $$$.

JettyJet I think it's a bit rich looking through your Joel Griffiths tinted glasses and pointing fingers at the Mariners wanting to make money.

Jets have been stringing pre-academy-aged parents and their wallets along all year in the hope of making the Jets 13 for 2024 aided and abetted by their training ground landlords. When everyone knows that you actually had to be paying for the "other academy" to get a spot.

If you want to focus on the Mariners then a look at the talent they've developed through their academy (and sold for substantial transfer fees) would be a better place to start.

[Taffy]

Jets have been stringing pre-academy-aged parents and their wallets along all year in the hope of making the Jets 13 for 2024 aided and abetted by their training ground landlords. When everyone knows that you actually had to be paying for the "other academy" to get a spot.

What's the "other academy"?

I know all about the rubbish told to parents that they had to be in the pre-academy if they wanted to be in Jets 13s (anyone who believed that might deserve to be parted from their money).

[WOW2.0]

Believe he is referencing Paul Gomez's private academy (that he runs with GVE I was told)

The conflict of interest is pretty ordinary, and very amateurish from the club

[Taffy]

Oh yes, forgot about that one. I guess the promises of going with him to get them into the Jets were true. Same when he went around to other clubs telling players that if they come join Jaffas it will be easier for them to be selected into the Jets.

If the Jets want to foster a better spirit between clubs and the community they really need to cut a few people who are using their positions to feather their own nest.

[pty22]

Can someone please explain why Jets Chairman and the current sydney owners continue to turn a blind eye and allow GVE back into the club and academy despite mounting complaints against him and his henchmen?
Surely the current Spain saga should send big alarm bells down the M1

[JettyJet]

What's the Spain saga?

[The Magician]

What's the Spain saga?

Magic has 2 teams going Spain and Portugal next month for twice as long and half the money...

[samcan]

Can someone please explain why Jets Chairman and the current sydney owners continue to turn a blind eye and allow GVE back into the club and academy despite mounting complaints against him and his henchmen?

I would like to see a change but I think those running the show hold the power.

Who actually has the power to hire & fire Academy TDs etc?

[JettyJet]

Magic has 2 teams going Spain and Portugal next month for twice as long and half the money...

So the parents paid for the Jets kids to go overseas and it cost's more then some one else who's paid for kids to go on an organized a trip?

[Beppe]

So the parents paid for the Jets kids to go overseas and it cost's more then some one else who's paid for kids to go on an organized a trip?

I think the Spain saga was in relation to the womans team and how the federation doesnt listen to complaints coming from the team.

[pty22]

Referring to Spain football and years of complaints of unscrupulous conduct and bosses and staff belief they are unconquerable. They are not.

[JettyJet]

Referring to Spain football and years of complaints of unscrupulous conduct and bosses and staff belief they are unconquerable. They are not.

oh yeah that make sense!
The kiss etc!

[JustMe]

Jets finished 2nd on the club championship. Talented bunch to overcome a poor club culture

Imagine if they had a decent TD and a directive to play forward instead of gve neg-ball.

[WOW2.0]

One parent in the academy told me the other week, the boys are told simply to constantly kick the shit out of opposition players. That as a club and a team, the would average less than 30% possession. Wonder how much truth there is to that.

[Aegon]

One parent in the academy told me the other week, the boys are told simply to constantly kick the shit out of opposition players. That as a club and a team, the would average less than 30% possession. Wonder how much truth there is to that.

Regarding kicking the opponents:
Maybe at a team level, definitely not happening at the club level. My son has never been instructed to do that.

On the possession part, VEO came in handy for this.
I just checked the analytics studio.
The team averaged 56% possession for the season and had less than 50% on 5 occasions.

Other boys squads:
50%
62%
49%
51%

Interestingly the team with the lowest average possession is also the most successful team of all 5 boys youth squads.

[The Bear]

Paul Gomez moved on from Jets gig. Lots of reasons - some you can work out others will surprise.

The bloke was dropped from the Jets like a hot rock back in ?17-18 for similar. The guy gets more chances than a Melbourne City forward.

[TopCorner]

Oh are we playing guess who again? Can I play?

Maybe next year Coach 🙌

[pty22]

Paul Gomez moved on from Jets gig. Lots of reasons - some you can work out others will surprise.

The bloke was dropped from the Jets like a hot rock back in ?17-18 for similar. The guy gets more chances than a Melbourne City forward.


Gomez duped players and parents.
Gazza duped Gomez, players and parents
Blobson is duping them all including sponsors NNSW and jets bosses. Or at least he thinks he is :lol:

[Hurricane]

Gomez duped players and parents.
Gazza duped Gomez, players and parents
Blobson is duping them all including sponsors NNSW and jets bosses. Or at least he thinks he is :lol:

Who is Blobson

[Taffy]

He means Mark Robson, whom insiders have told me has been dropped as well. GVE covered in Teflon

[Eastwest]

Gomez duped players and parents.
Gazza duped Gomez, players and parents
Blobson is duping them all including sponsors NNSW and jets bosses. Or at least he thinks he is :lol:

sadly, so true.

But which dodgy merchants are coming into replace them?

Has this youth academy every had a positive football culture?

[Eastwest]

He means Mark Robson, whom insiders have told me has been dropped as well. GVE covered in Teflon

considering Ang and gve have opposite football theory where 1 is an absolute success and the other is a legend in his own lunchbox.

How Gaz stays with his 400 back pass rule is beyond me.

[WOW2.0]

Who is Ang? @Eastwood

Also, saw the Jets youth positions for the season, how that equates to a 2nd in club championship feels weird and cheap

18s - 9th
16s - 1st (great result)
15s - 9th
14s - 9th
13s - 11th

(And a another year in third tier for Snrs)...just feels like they are getting so much wrong

[Beppe]

Who is Ang? @Eastwood

think he is referring to ang postecoglu

[JettyJet]

Who is Ang? @Eastwood

Also, saw the Jets youth positions for the season, how that equates to a 2nd in club championship feels weird and cheap

18s - 9th
16s - 1st (great result)
15s - 9th
14s - 9th
13s - 11th

(And a another year in third tier for Snrs)...just feels like they are getting so much wrong

And compare it to the idolized neighbours in the south..

18's -1st
16's- 6th
15's- 2nd
14's -14th
13's- 16th (last)

13's don't count for CC.
Future look bright at CCM............

[TopCorner]

And compare it to the idolized neighbours in the south..

18's -1st
16's- 6th
15's- 2nd
14's -14th
13's- 16th (last)

13's don't count for CC.
Future look bright at CCM............

Not sure of the point youre making.

[TopCorner]

18 players

Adamstown Rosebuds 23 > Jets Academy 24

#nothingtoseehere 👀

[Taffy]

Not sure of the point youre making.

Don't think he is making any point just that showing that CCM did better this year

[KITZ]

And compare it to the idolized neighbours in the south..

18's -1st
16's- 6th
15's- 2nd
14's -14th
13's- 16th (last)

13's don't count for CC.
Future look bright at CCM............

As someone with significant investment in youth football, please sit down.

The mariners made a motza selling youth players overseas this season. for example Pavlesic being sold to bayern is massive, as well as all the others I won't go through and list.
I am just sad that Miguel has left with monty as he was a huge fountain of knowledge in the goalkeeping space and not opposed to sharing that with those interested and becoming better players for it.

I can almost say that 13's and 14s at the mariners will almost be exclusively youth that live local (or localish) and as they get older they will scout from further out, they have a GK from brisbane and another from Canberra I think in the senior academy space if my memory serves me right, as their teams get older they get better as they attract players not opposed to being sold and playing overseas or able to move into the region.

It's a massively positive business model, so trying to pull them down on results really just makes you look silly. The players know where the opportunities lie.

[KITZ]

18 players

Adamstown Rosebuds 23 > Jets Academy 24

#nothingtoseehere ��

Is that in the senior academy space (mens?) or womens?

[JettyJet]

As someone with significant investment in youth football, please sit down.

The mariners made a motza selling youth players overseas this season. for example Pavlesic being sold to bayern is massive, as well as all the others I won't go through and list.
I am just sad that Miguel has left with monty as he was a huge fountain of knowledge in the goalkeeping space and not opposed to sharing that with those interested and becoming better players for it.

I can almost say that 13's and 14s at the mariners will almost be exclusively youth that live local (or localish) and as they get older they will scout from further out, they have a GK from brisbane and another from Canberra I think in the senior academy space if my memory serves me right, as their teams get older they get better as they attract players not opposed to being sold and playing overseas or able to move into the region.

It's a massively positive business model, so trying to pull them down on results really just makes you look silly. The players know where the opportunities lie.

it doesn't help that the 13's and 14's Coaches are hopeless.

[pty22]

18 players

Adamstown Rosebuds 23 > Jets Academy 24

#nothingtoseehere ��


What about the Kurri Kurri, Swansea and other community players that were offered positions?
Did any take them up? Respect to those who declined.
Alarming to see such a high volume of players, coaches and funders that canon -balled themselves out of the academy this year.
What appears to be left for 2024 is an overall average level of talent on and off the field, delusional parents that still believe their 'pay to play' will eventuate into something beyond a tsp match against Mariners and Sydney FC and players who have long dreamed to don the Jets trackies.
Some minor transparency between the staff and coaches can solve their problems in an instant but this is not possible when each is only looking after their own backyard.

[JettyJet]

As someone with significant investment in youth football, please sit down.
I doubt you've got more than me!

The mariners made a motza selling youth players overseas this season. for example Pavlesic being sold to bayern is massive, as well as all the others I won't go through and list.
I am just sad that Miguel has left with monty as he was a huge fountain of knowledge in the goalkeeping space and not opposed to sharing that with those interested and becoming better players for it.

No they didn't make a motza, most of those deals were done prior to being at CCM. Di Pizio, Pav etc. The figures for transfer fees are very low around 100k for Pav.

I can almost say that 13's and 14s at the mariners will almost be exclusively youth that live local (or localish) and as they get older they will scout from further out, they have a GK from brisbane and another from Canberra I think in the senior academy space if my memory serves me right, as their teams get older they get better as they attract players not opposed to being sold and playing overseas or able to move into the region

And?? The dominant 15's are 90% local and will be the same in the 16's for 2024.

It's a massively positive business model, so trying to pull them down on results really just makes you look silly. The players know where the opportunities lie.


That's just not true at all, the owner will go broke. No Academy players are flowing into the A League Team. Well not for some time anyway. They let Bayliss leave as an example.

[onlooker]

Is that in the senior academy space (mens?) or womens?

That would be 18 Adamstown players heading into the women?s academy next season. Along with those that came across just as the this season started.

[The Bear]

it doesn't help that the 13's and 14's Coaches are hopeless.

One of them are the Broadmeadow 1?st grade coach next season

[TopCorner]

Is that in the senior academy space (mens?) or womens?

Women?s Youth

[sideline88]

That would be 18 Adamstown players heading into the women?s academy next season. Along with those that came across just as the this season started.

keep in mind a good number of those 18 were selected for the Under 13s for 2024 along with a heap from Azzuri all who featured in this years PYLG 13 Grand final.

[Taffy]

That would be 18 Adamstown players heading into the women?s academy next season. Along with those that came across just as the this season started.

Ah right thanks for the clarification you meant Women's. Not a surprise when their head coach is now back into the Jets and significantly influential on that side.

[KITZ]

As someone with significant investment in youth football, please sit down.
I doubt you've got more than me!

The mariners made a motza selling youth players overseas this season. for example Pavlesic being sold to bayern is massive, as well as all the others I won't go through and list.
I am just sad that Miguel has left with monty as he was a huge fountain of knowledge in the goalkeeping space and not opposed to sharing that with those interested and becoming better players for it.

No they didn't make a motza, most of those deals were done prior to being at CCM. Di Pizio, Pav etc. The figures for transfer fees are very low around 100k for Pav.

I can almost say that 13's and 14s at the mariners will almost be exclusively youth that live local (or localish) and as they get older they will scout from further out, they have a GK from brisbane and another from Canberra I think in the senior academy space if my memory serves me right, as their teams get older they get better as they attract players not opposed to being sold and playing overseas or able to move into the region

And?? The dominant 15's are 90% local and will be the same in the 16's for 2024.

It's a massively positive business model, so trying to pull them down on results really just makes you look silly. The players know where the opportunities lie.


That's just not true at all, the owner will go broke. No Academy players are flowing into the A League Team. Well not for some time anyway. They let Bayliss leave as an example.

whatever crack you are on you need to get a new dealer. that's some serious rubbish you are talking.

[KITZ]

One of them are the Broadmeadow 1?st grade coach next season

Pretty convinced the dude has no idea even what day of the week it is.

[JettyJet]

whatever crack you are on you need to get a new dealer. that's some serious rubbish you are talking.

Send me a PM for details..

[Stanley]

Pretty convinced the dude has no idea even what day of the week it is.

Not good for Broadmeadow if that’s the case, could do a Warners Bay, major / minor premiers to wooden spooners. I wouldn’t think Broadmeadow were that dumb, Who is the coach ??

[Taffy]

Not good for Broadmeadow if that’s the case, could do a Warners Bay, major / minor premiers to wooden spooners. I wouldn’t think Broadmeadow were that dumb, Who is the coach ??

The U14s Mariners coach that Jetty said is rubbish is the NPL 1st grade Magic coach for 2024. Been with Magic for years as a coach and player has an A licence. Don't think it is a dumb decision to appoint him

[Aegon]

It's not hard to have these conversations without resorting to personal insults.
I've deleted a few comments, repeat offenders won't be tolerated.

[pty22]

Just heard TD from NNSW is in talks with Jets Academy to become 2024 TD.
Might explain why certain 14 year old Jets kid was selected into the 15s Squad for National Youth Championships.

[Doopche]

Just heard TD from NNSW is in talks with Jets Academy to become 2024 TD.
Might explain why certain 14 year old Jets kid was selected into the 15s Squad for National Youth Championships.

Do you feel better now you?ve singled out a 14yr old kid?

[Taffy]

So what's GVE doing with Northern's TD is taking his spot?

[Retired01]

Do you feel better now you?ve singled out a 14yr old kid?

I dont believe thats a shot at the child if its the boy Im expecting it to be with the Dad in charge. Im sure he will accept unwittingly every opportunity his Dad can get him and Im sure you can also ask the new 15s keeper too. Same old same old my son went through this as we all did and its still who you know.

[Doopche]

I dont believe thats a shot at the child if its the boy Im expecting it to be with the Dad in charge. Im sure he will accept unwittingly every opportunity his Dad can get him and Im sure you can also ask the new 15s keeper too. Same old same old my son went through this as we all did and its still who you know.

I don?t know who the kid is but wouldn?t be too hard to find out if he?s playing up. But why even mention the child? So much for this page filtering out all the crap. We all know there?s kids in teams because of who their parents are but I don?t believe we should be singling the kids out. Not their fault, the people in charge should be fixing that only if they don?t deserve the spot that is. And I didn?t think the nnsw td had a kid?

[sapdad]

We all know there's kids in teams because of who their parents are but I don't believe we should be singling the kids out. Not their fault, the people in charge should be fixing that

Well said.

[Jim]

Do you feel better now you?ve singled out a 14yr old kid?

Nah. Hes showing much more respect to this lad than what youve shown over the last few years.

[The Bear]

Not their fault, the people in charge should be fixing that only if they don?t deserve the spot that is?

No different to the local scene. Every 3rd team has a dad coach who?s kid doesn?t warrant a spot in the team.

[Doopche]

Nah. Hes showing much more respect to this lad than what youve shown over the last few years.

Do you need a hug Jim?

[Robbo777]

Just heard TD from NNSW is in talks with Jets Academy to become 2024 TD.
Might explain why certain 14 year old Jets kid was selected into the 15s Squad for National Youth Championships.

Happy to have a conversation with any of you guys face to face and discuss your concerns.

Unlike most of you happy to put my name to it and not hide behind fake accounts.

I?m in the office at speers point Monday to Friday feel free to come in and have a chat.

[samcan]

Happy to have a conversation with any of you guys face to face and discuss your concerns.

Unlike most of you happy to put my name to it and not hide behind fake accounts.

I?m in the office at speers point Monday to Friday feel free to come in and have a chat.

Nah lets chat here remembering you are too arrogant to even acknowledge nearly anyone outside of the elite inner clique.

1st Dont get too offended. you arent the first person to have a lad get a good leg up in this space since youve claimed a seat at the table with your $$$. Happens at every club and Good luck to him, hope he takes his chance.

2nd The environment that you help fund and run is toxic and unscrupulous. exhibit A already gone for ineffective service and disreputable behaviour. Hope you arent choosing the next candidate.

3rd I didnt mention you but cant work out why you want to generalise with your abusive call of faceless people on here for suggesting factual information.

Interestingly the scum on here strive for integrity, fairness and best football development for ALL kids in this city. Since you cant provide this feel free to do the right thing.

[KITZ]

Not good for Broadmeadow if that?s the case, could do a Warners Bay, major / minor premiers to wooden spooners. I wouldn?t think Broadmeadow were that dumb, Who is the coach ??

you've misread my post. I was referring to JettyJet who is still living in a hallucination.

[KITZ]

Just heard TD from NNSW is in talks with Jets Academy to become 2024 TD.
Might explain why certain 14 year old Jets kid was selected into the 15s Squad for National Youth Championships.

That's pretty significantly against the rules, all players at nationals should be playing in their own age group. I would suggest that if you do have information of this happening it is passed onto Football Australia. There is an email address if you need it.

But then again northern aren't supposed to be fielding any players registered to a NSW football club by their own rules - not to mention the insurance issues around this, its an ongoing significant ethical issue as they told some kids they weren't eligible for nationals if they were registered with a NSW football club - which is exactly what the jets are. Make them get picked in a NSW squad like the rest of them have to and let the locally registered kids go to nationals. I have no problem with an all in or all out rule. going to nationals has zero impact on being selected for the joeys etc. they are being seen plenty enough.

[redcard]

Where did I see that post regarding NNSW rules regarding player eligibility? Is it correct that to be a part of the NNSW squad a player must be registered under NNSW?

The Newcastle Jets Academy are not registered under NNSW, they are Football NSW right?

CC Mariners players that wanted to trial for the NNSW squad were turned away and told they had to trial for the NSW Metro teams because they are registered under Football NSW, not NNSW

But neither are the Jets so why did they not have to follow the same process as every other club?

2023 NNSW Youth Championships Squads.

      •     14s Girls: 6 NNSW players, 10 Newcastle Jets
      •     16s Girls: 1 NNSW player, 15 Newcastle Jets
      •     15s Boys: 8 NNSW, 9 Newcastle Jets
      •     16s Boys: 4 NNSW, 13 Newcastle Jets.

Under what extraordinary circumstances could this have been approved?
This composition demonstrates a complete disregard for all NNSW registered kids and now questions the pathway NNSW promotes to its members.

[Taffy]

This composition demonstrates a complete disregard for all NNSW registered kids and now questions the pathway NNSW promotes to its members.

I mean it doesn't being in the Jets academy is part of the pathway Northern promotes

[JettyJet]

Where did I see that post regarding NNSW rules regarding player eligibility? Is it correct that to be a part of the NNSW squad a player must be registered under NNSW?

The Newcastle Jets Academy are not registered under NNSW, they are Football NSW right?

CC Mariners players that wanted to trial for the NNSW squad were turned away and told they had to trial for the NSW Metro teams because they are registered under Football NSW, not NNSW

But neither are the Jets so why did they not have to follow the same process as every other club?

2023 NNSW Youth Championships Squads.

      •     14s Girls: 6 NNSW players, 10 Newcastle Jets
      •     16s Girls: 1 NNSW player, 15 Newcastle Jets
      •     15s Boys: 8 NNSW, 9 Newcastle Jets
      •     16s Boys: 4 NNSW, 13 Newcastle Jets.

Under what extraordinary circumstances could this have been approved?
This composition demonstrates a complete disregard for all NNSW registered kids and now questions the pathway NNSW promotes to its members.

This is one of the most delusional things I've read on here and that's saying something!!
Why are you so bitter your child wasn't good enough?
I'd suggest if your child is playing in the NSW NPL competition, for CCM and they didn't make the Metro Teams it's because they aren't good enough. They had plenty of chances to demonstrate their ability, TSP Games and 20 or more competition games. Add to that if the TD or Coach thought your son/daughter was good enough CCM would put them forward. Each player has to register separately for the NYC, through the Football Australia portal. In the past NNSW have sent multiple teams this year they made a smart decision and combined the teams. The 16s looks a very good team. The 16's Jets won the League, are you proposing that players in the sub standard Local competition are better?

[redcard]

I hold no bitterness; my kids have already passed their youth phase. What concerns me is observing the hardworking and dedicated individuals at NNSW, who consistently uphold fairness and integrity, now grappling with issues arising from some of their peers' associations with the Jets Academy.

[onlooker]

Let?s be honest if NNSW didn?t select players that are involved with the Jets it wouldn?t be a very competitive team.

Last year in a TSP tournament on the girls side the Jets sent a team and NNSW sent a team. Jets walked it undefeated conceding no goals, NNSW struggled.
The Nationals is about selecting the best team possible ( which is always a matter of opinion) and the majority of the players in the Jets come out of our local teams so have every right to be selected for the team.

[Taffy]

Last year in a TSP tournament on the girls side the Jets sent a team and NNSW sent a team. Jets walked it undefeated conceding no goals, NNSW struggled.

On the flip side though the Jets team performed worse than Northerns team in the boys 15s last year.

Don't think it really matters but the rules probably say where the club is located rather than where they play. Jets kids get to be selected for Northern because the Jets are based within Northern. Mariners kids who live in Northern's borders don't get to be selected because their club is in NSW borders. Same with kids who live in far north NSW but play in Queensland, their clubs are based in Queensland so only eligible to play for Queensland

[WOW2.0]

Don't think it really matters but the rules probably say where the club is located rather than where they play. Jets kids get to be selected for Northern because the Jets are based within Northern


Is there a place we can look at the selection rules, see the wording and make more informed input?

[JettyJet]

Selection rules?
Are you people serious?
Best players get picked, the FA wants the best players there.

Wow

[Taffy]

Clearly there are selection rules. Would be the age, would be where they played. Football NT couldn't go and pick someone who had played in Melbourne all year. Northern either can't (a selection rule) or don't want to (a self imposed selection rule) pick better players that live in Newcastle but play for CCM or WSW of which there are a few.

[WOW2.0]

Selection rules?
Are you people serious?
Best players get picked, the FA wants the best players there.

Wow

Calm down Gary

[samcan]

Calm down Gary

I wish Gary would put in real coaches not just dodgy mates. btw the 50 passes around the backs era is over. move on already

[JettyJet]

Calm down Gary

They seem to be going pretty well at the NYC.

[Reds Forever]

They seem to be going pretty well at the NYC.

Spoke to soon. Neither team have progressed out of group stage.

[JettyJet]

Spoke to soon. Neither team have progressed out of group stage.

Both teams lost just one game.
16's 4 wins, 1 loss, 1 draw
15's 3 wins, 1 loss, 2 draws
Missed out on semi's by 1 or 2 points.

[The Bear]

Both teams lost just one game.
16's 4 wins, 1 loss, 1 draw
15's 3 wins, 1 loss, 2 draws
Missed out on semi's by 1 or 2 points.

A good showing. For mine, I don?t expect a regional NSW team to make the top four teams in a national comp.

[JettyJet]

A good showing. For mine, I don?t expect a regional NSW team to make the top four teams in a national comp.

Undoubtedly, it looks as though the 16's especially did well. Beating Western Australia, South Australia, Queensland and drawing with NSW.

[Captain_Carl]

If Football Australia is conducting an investigation into any coach of any A-League Academy, that is absolutely none of my business.

[ForeverRed]

A good showing. For mine, I don?t expect a regional NSW team to make the top four teams in a national comp.
Why, we use to consistently finish top four or higher

[Captain_Carl]

If Football Australia is conducting an investigation into any coach of any A-League Academy, that is absolutely none of my business.

My comment seems random but there is some substance to it. I was throwing it out like a fisherman on Nobbys breakwall and hoping someone would bite but nobody has.

[The Bear]

If Football Australia is conducting an investigation into any coach of any A-League Academy, that is absolutely none of my business.

The Jets? We know the TD left recently and he enjoyed spitting venom at kids and kicking buckets in their face. Wouldn?t be a surprise that a parent would take it further.

[JettyJet]

Why, we use to consistently finish top four or higher

Was that in the old days? When the best states had 1 team?
Context lad...

[ForeverRed]

Was that in the old days? When the best states had 1 team?
Context lad...
One team per state/ territory plus nnsw, we competed big time, northern teams were full of players from up the coast etc, all chosen from state titles, bit different nowadays

[JustMe]

The Jets? We know the TD left recently and he enjoyed spitting venom at kids and kicking buckets in their face. Wouldn?t be a surprise that a parent would take it further.

If they dont others will. Time to exit the toxic crew and rebuild with integrity for a change

[MFKS]

A good showing. For mine, I don?t expect a regional NSW team to make the top four teams in a national comp.

That's why we are shit

The accepting of mediocre as acceptable

There is nothing at all stopping anything coming out of Newy competing well above their weight

It's this piss poor attitude that is why our NRL A League or any other national comp teams are shit and continue to be so year in year out

Time we grew a chip on our shoulder and started sticking it to the big city teams

[The Bear]

That's why we are shit

The accepting of mediocre as acceptable

There is nothing at all stopping anything coming out of Newy competing well above their weight

It's this piss poor attitude that is why our NRL A League or any other national comp teams are shit and continue to be so year in year out

Time we grew a chip on our shoulder and started sticking it to the big city teams

Yup, we are shit because we don?t have a chip on our shoulder. Not because there is no investment in infrastructure. Not because we still have a jobs for the boys mentality in positions of power. Not because parents are viewed as an ATM.

Teach the kids to be grubs and she?ll be right.

[Bulldogs 1962]

Just heard the summer 7s at the jets academy won't be running due to lack of numbers.

What a poor advertisement for the club. The so called pinnacle club of Newcastle can't attract enough interest to run a summer comp, when it was indicated via email to all of last year's pre-academy player that selection for next year would be heavily scouted via this tournament.

They only have themselves to blame tho, no advertisement or promoting done. Except one email to last year's pre-academy players and one Facebook post, on the jets academy page. And nothing on the Jets main page. Very poor effort.

Now I have to wait post Christmas to watch some competitive games.

[Taffy]

Just heard the summer 7s at the jets academy won't be running due to lack of numbers.

What a poor advertisement for the club. The so called pinnacle club of Newcastle can't attract enough interest to run a summer comp, when it was indicated via email to all of last year's pre-academy player that selection for next year would be heavily scouted via this tournament.

They only have themselves to blame tho, no advertisement or promoting done. Except one email to last year's pre-academy players and one Facebook post, on the jets academy page. And nothing on the Jets main page. Very poor effort.

Now I have to wait post Christmas to watch some competitive games.

As you said poor advertisement.

As for telling them selection for next year would be scouted via this tournament, maybe after this year parents woke up and realised that when the Jets talk about where there will select players from isn't true. No doubt a few U12 parents who saw players rock up to U13 trials and get selected for the U13 team that won't in the pre-academy after being told that to get into the U13 team you must be part of the pre-academy have spoken to others and they know it isn't true.

[TopCorner]

Just heard the summer 7s at the jets academy won't be running due to lack of numbers.

What a poor advertisement for the club. The so called pinnacle club of Newcastle can't attract enough interest to run a summer comp, when it was indicated via email to all of last year's pre-academy player that selection for next year would be heavily scouted via this tournament.

They only have themselves to blame tho, no advertisement or promoting done. Except one email to last year's pre-academy players and one Facebook post, on the jets academy page. And nothing on the Jets main page. Very poor effort.

Now I have to wait post Christmas to watch some competitive games.

What the Jets say they do or promise to do isn?t the same as what the Jets actually do*

*Cue someone piping up to tell me that ?the Jets aren?t the worst?? which seems to be the bench mark

[KITZ]

Just heard the summer 7s at the jets academy won't be running due to lack of numbers.

What a poor advertisement for the club. The so called pinnacle club of Newcastle can't attract enough interest to run a summer comp, when it was indicated via email to all of last year's pre-academy player that selection for next year would be heavily scouted via this tournament.

They only have themselves to blame tho, no advertisement or promoting done. Except one email to last year's pre-academy players and one Facebook post, on the jets academy page. And nothing on the Jets main page. Very poor effort.

Now I have to wait post Christmas to watch some competitive games.

Im surprised that you are surprised.

[KITZ]

What the Jets say they do or promise to do isn?t the same as what the Jets actually do*

*Cue someone piping up to tell me that ?the Jets aren?t the worst?? which seems to be the bench mark

anyone who said otherwise has probably just come off a month long ban, god forbid you tell it as it is around here.