Promotion, Relegation & League Structure

[The Postman]

Pretty much halfway through the season, if promotion and relegation happened today.

NPL - 12 teams
Relegated to NL1 - Lakes
Pro/Rel Playoff - Adamstown

NL1 - 10 teams
Promoted to NPL - Belswans
Pro/Rel Playoff - Kahibah, West Wallsend, Thornton *if they meet criteria

ZL1 - 12 teams
Promoted to NL1 - Newcastle Suns
Relegated to ZL2 - Minmi

ZL2 - 11 teams
Promoted to ZL1 - Stockton
Relegated to ZL3 - South Maitland

ZL3 - 12 teams
Promoted to ZL2 - Lambton Jaffas


I wonder if the Federations will change things up to get ZL2 to an even number of teams. No relegation from ZL2 would be the simple fix, and then who knows what clubs drop out and/or join ZL3.

[finzee]

ZL3 should be the only grade with a bye and also the most transient as clubs workout whether ZL is for them or not.

[GO AWAY]

I predict NL1 will be
Kahibah v Toronto
Adamstown v West Wallsend

[The Postman]

Stockton win the golden ticket promotion into ZL1.

12 team comps across the 3 leagues with only first and ressies.

3rd grade to become Zone Conference League, aiming for 2 conferences with 12 teams. Open to NPL and down to submit teams.

[Jardelsimage]

Stockton win the golden ticket promotion into ZL1.

12 team comps across the 3 leagues with only first and ressies.

3rd grade to become Zone Conference League, aiming for 2 conferences with 12 teams. Open to NPL and down to submit teams.

Croatia and Stockton go to ZL1.
Mayfield Jnrs stay in ZL2 with Jaffas premiers also promoted to ZL2
ZL3 10 teams so far.

Kahibah have 2 teams in this conference setup, not sure why they didn't just put a ZL3 side in.
Dudley also has a team in.
ZL1 conference is still only 11 teams.

[Zone Insider]

Croatia and Stockton go to ZL1.
Mayfield Jnrs stay in ZL2 with Jaffas premiers also promoted to ZL2
ZL3 10 teams so far.

Kahibah have 2 teams in this conference setup, not sure why they didn't just put a ZL3 side in.
Dudley also has a team in.
ZL1 conference is still only 11 teams.

I wonder if Stockton will get the hate Croatia did in regards to promotion previously without being premeirs ? I doubt it

Hearing Nelson Bay also moving to zone 2

So Minmi get relegated from zone 1 but Mayfield don?t from zone 2 coz of a technicality ? That?s seems fair lol

[Fred Devils]

I wonder if Stockton will get the hate Croatia did in regards to promotion previously without being premeirs ? I doubt it

Hearing Nelson Bay also moving to zone 2

So Minmi get relegated from zone 1 but Mayfield don?t from zone 2 coz of a technicality ? That?s seems fair lol

ZL2 had a bye round last season, with Croatia and Stockton going up to ZL1 and only Minmi going down and then Nelson Bay and Jaffas coming up, what's more fair, 3rd place in ZL3 getting promoted or Mayfield getting relegated. Either way people aren't gonna be happy.

[NUGUNS]

So Minmi get relegated from zone 1 but Mayfield don?t from zone 2 coz of a technicality ? That?s seems fair lol

Minmi probably asked to be relegated after two years of struggling.

[Taffy]

I wonder if Stockton will get the hate Croatia did in regards to promotion previously without being premeirs ? I doubt it

Stockton aren't a club run by W*gs so of course the hate for it won't be there.


Will this be the last time the Zones change the rules to suit and have it all sorted now, or will there still be teams managing to avoid relegation. And if teams can avoid going down, why can't teams avoid going up, aka Dudley?

[Buddha]

I must be the only one ok with them not relegating anybody from ZL2 this year as a once off. If it means we get rid of the bye next season I am all for it.

And before anybody starts foaming at the mouth, I am aware it contradicts the enforced P/R they've mandated.

[The Postman]

I think they will settle on 12 teams for now - to get 10-team comps, you would need at least 4 more teams, they we have ZL1 to 4 and another massive restructure.

But again, all depends on clubs coming and going. A nice period of stability and growth would be great!

Aligning to only 1st and Ressies truly opens up the pyramid which it seems was the goal. Conference League is a nice "meeting the clubs halfway" while maintaining this.

[The Magician]

Stockton win the golden ticket promotion into ZL1.

12 team comps across the 3 leagues with only first and ressies.

3rd grade to become Zone Conference League, aiming for 2 conferences with 12 teams. Open to NPL and down to submit teams.

When will NPL clubs be able to apply for Third Grade participation, Third grade on a Friday Night at Magic Park sounds not bahd.

[Jardelsimage]

When will NPL clubs be able to apply for Third Grade participation, Third grade on a Friday Night at Magic Park sounds not bahd.

ZL clubs will still have 1st go at it, if ZL league do not take up all the spots then it will be opened up, well that's what he said anyway...there were 3 spots in Conference 1, Kahibah and Dudley have taken 2 of them, 1 spot left.

In my opinion this should not be an avenue for NPL clubs to put a team in, they are only filling a hole left by the ZL clubs who can't/won't do a 3rds team.

[straightred88]

ZL clubs will still have 1st go at it, if ZL league do not take up all the spots then it will be opened up, well that's what he said anyway...there were 3 spots in Conference 1, Kahibah and Dudley have taken 2 of them, 1 spot left.

In my opinion this should not be an avenue for NPL clubs to put a team in, they are only filling a hole left by the ZL clubs who can't/won't do a 3rds team.

Heard Croudace Bay were taking the zone 1 thirds spot

[Macca]

Stockton aren't a club run by W*gs so of course the hate for it won't be there.


Will this be the last time the Zones change the rules to suit and have it all sorted now, or will there still be teams managing to avoid relegation. And if teams can avoid going down, why can't teams avoid going up, aka Dudley?

Yeah must be racism, definitely not that people generally don't like people who are loud and arrogant.
Not saying that everyone from the club fits that description, but it doesn't take many before that becomes the club as a whole's rep.

Would be surprised if the ratio of Croatia posting to Stockton posting on these forums didn't exceed 100:1.

[The Postman]

If this is successful, I would imagine 5/6 more clubs might throw their hands up for 2026 and beyond. Then they could have 3 Conferences of 10 teams. Would be silly to cap it at 24 teams.

From all accounts it will be a constantly evolving league.

[Taffy]

Aligning to only 1st and Ressies truly opens up the pyramid which it seems was the goal. Conference League is a nice "meeting the clubs halfway" while maintaining this.

It's a very good idea to have a separate league for those clubs that do want to have a thirds competition while allowing those who don't want a 3rds team or can't get one to not have to worry about it.

Are these two conference leagues going to also have promotion/relegation between them? Are they going to be split based on location?

If no promotion relegation, could almost go with a finals series that combines the top 2 or 3 from each league to be proclaimed Conference Champions.


In my opinion this should not be an avenue for NPL clubs to put a team in, they are only filling a hole left by the ZL clubs who can't/won't do a 3rds team.

Should Dudley not be allowed to keep their thirds then? If they do what so many people on this forum believe they will do and be promoted to NPL in 2026, should they then have to drop their team?

[Buddha]

Heard Croudace Bay were taking the zone 1 thirds spot

They're already in there

[ranger]

Only problem with grading/pro-reg in conference league is that it'd make it impossible to line up with res/firsts. This season has worked out pretty well since 19 off 22 games are at same location as your firsts but as the comp evolves and more thirds drop out this number will obviously lower.

It's a good 'safety net' to stop clubs disappearing completely from zl football. Afew lean years let's a club regroup in conference league and build from there. Or new clubs have a crack in conference league and see if more 'structured - for want of a better term' football is for them.

Will be interesting to see how many npl/Northern clubs are interested in conference league - unsure how many in those systems once they're surplus to requirement will hang around the club and 'play for the jersey/community'.

I was pretty sceptical at first how it was going to all turn out, and don't get me wrong, I think Newcastle football has lucked out with numbers but it definately has its merits on paper at this stage.

[Jardelsimage]

If this is successful, I would imagine 5/6 more clubs might throw their hands for 2026 and beyond. Then they could have 3 Conferences of 10 teams. Would be silly to cap it at 24 teams.

From all accounts it will be a constantly evolving league.

if NPL want to do this, just start there own comp between themselves, not hard to do...the idea for slashing 3rds to this is not to give NPL clubs a comp or is it and we all have fell for it????

[Taffy]

if NPL want to do this, just start there own comp between themselves, not hard to do...the idea for slashing 3rds to this is not to give NPL clubs a comp or is it and we all have fell for it????

I don't think NPL do want to do this and doubt any will be (though if you need additional ones, will make it better), and I note that some NPL clubs already have Zone clubs already. But what happens when a 2024 Zone team gets promoted to League 1 or NPL should they have to then get rid of these conference teams? Should Dudley?

[Jardelsimage]

I don't think NPL do want to do this and doubt any will be (though if you need additional ones, will make it better), and I note that some NPL clubs already have Zone clubs already. But what happens when a 2024 Zone team gets promoted to League 1 or NPL should they have to then get rid of these conference teams? Should Dudley?

honestly, yes.

ZL was until 20 odd days ago a 3-grade set up, so this conference your saying has happened in 2024....Dudley have been promoted and yes only 9 out 12 have taken up the Con-spot, which is piss poor effort by 2 clubs.

It was mentioned last night about this exact problem, some clubs want to be promoted, some don't as where they sit in the system that suits them to be a community-based club, but we have rules now based on winning and losing, if you win you go up, lose a grade so be it, you come down, you gain a grade, that's how it should be...unless your Olympic and can't go up, what happens then Chris??? right now I am rooting for Olympic to win it in 2025 and watch bullshit start flying then....sorry Olympic had to be said...

Going into NPL is not the holy grail for all, but if you do and sorry to offend Dudley here, but they either put a couple of teams in ZL3 or ZL4 if we have one and start that side again (if they can the people to run it) or they go to AA.

Putting them in this conference is a band aid approach to fix problems higher up or so they don't piss the wrong people off and the bad publicity comes a knockin..

[Taffy]

Funny you mention Olympic, you say you don't want NPL clubs to have these extra teams, yet here we have Olympic and Lakes with teams in these Zone leagues. So you seem to be saying that these clubs shouldn't have them. Of course the conference league isn't being set up to benefit NPL clubs who most would probably have no idea on what is happening, it is being set up for those clubs that want to have an additional team (of which only some want to have them anyway). Some forethought would see that you win, and go up, all very well to say, you have to get rid of a team, but then the team coming down, won't have a team and now you have one less team in the comp, repeat the following year and you have one more less. Some forward thinking is needed here.


And if you don't want to worry about winning and losing and just want to be a community club then go and just play the community Interdistrict Leagues then.

[Zone Insider]

Is it Northern pushing the 2 grade system ?

Did NF realize the amount of revenue they would lose from no thirds at all so they threw together this conference league?

The first mistake was giving clubs an option - it was never gonna end well.

[Taffy]

The first mistake was giving clubs an option - it was never gonna end well.

A very good point, though everyone would be complaining about no consultation on the changes.

[riverboy]

honestly, yes.

ZL was until 20 odd days ago a 3-grade set up, so this conference your saying has happened in 2024....Dudley have been promoted and yes only 9 out 12 have taken up the Con-spot, which is piss poor effort by 2 clubs.

It was mentioned last night about this exact problem, some clubs want to be promoted, some don't as where they sit in the system that suits them to be a community-based club, but we have rules now based on winning and losing, if you win you go up, lose a grade so be it, you come down, you gain a grade, that's how it should be...unless your Olympic and can't go up, what happens then Chris??? right now I am rooting for Olympic to win it in 2025 and watch bullshit start flying then....sorry Olympic had to be said...

Going into NPL is not the holy grail for all, but if you do and sorry to offend Dudley here, but they either put a couple of teams in ZL3 or ZL4 if we have one and start that side again (if they can the people to run it) or they go to AA.

Putting them in this conference is a band aid approach to fix problems higher up or so they don't piss the wrong people off and the bad publicity comes a knockin..

You refer to Chris, Chris who?. Sorry not sure who your referring to.

Piss poor effort from 2 clubs is a little harsh?

So if your club win and get promoted, will you be happy then if they aren't offered a conference league spot?

[Jardelsimage]

Funny you mention Olympic, you say you don't want NPL clubs to have these extra teams, yet here we have Olympic and Lakes with teams in these Zone leagues. So you seem to be saying that these clubs shouldn't have them. Of course the conference league isn't being set up to benefit NPL clubs who most would probably have no idea on what is happening, it is being set up for those clubs that want to have an additional team (of which only some want to have them anyway). Some forethought would see that you win, and go up, all very well to say, you have to get rid of a team, but then the team coming down, won't have a team and now you have one less team in the comp, repeat the following year and you have one more less. Some forward thinking is needed here.

And if you don't want to worry about winning and losing and just want to be a community club then go and just play the community Interdistrict Leagues then.


I only answering your question about Dudley, why so defensive? You like pumping this new set up, must be personnel.

How about answer mine about what happens if ZL Olympic winning next year, the pyramid says you have to go up and you have to come down....??????

Forward thinking would be the team who drops, organizes a 3rds/Con team or whatever you want to call it to play in ZL1...

By the way Olympic are the only ones left in ZL affiliated with NPL, as Lakes kicked theirs ZL out.

Currently no players from ZL could go up to NPL1 or NPL2 which that has always been a big difference, you mentioned that you hope to have more clubs do this, so the conference league is being set up to suit this style, slowly eroding the 3rd grade culture, in the end, I think 9 out of 12 says a lot on what the clubs actually want and or wanted for next year, Westlakes have already stated they will be back to 3 grades hopefully within a year.

I've been in this community interdistrict league (ZL or ZPL or Interdistrict 1's, or that's what we used to call it) for quite a while, obviously you haven't, so not sure what page you're turning there? or do you mean I should go play AA??

last one, always play to win....

[Jardelsimage]

You refer to Chris, Chris who?. Sorry not sure who your referring to.

Piss poor effort from 2 clubs is a little harsh?

So if your club win and get promoted, will you be happy then if they aren't offered a conference league spot?

yep

[Alton]

You refer to Chris, Chris who?. Sorry not sure who your referring to.

Piss poor effort from 2 clubs is a little harsh?

So if your club win and get promoted, will you be happy then if they aren't offered a conference league spot?

Use your Brain

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

honestly, yes.

ZL was until 20 odd days ago a 3-grade set up, so this conference your saying has happened in 2024....Dudley have been promoted and yes only 9 out 12 have taken up the Con-spot, which is piss poor effort by 2 clubs.

It was mentioned last night about this exact problem, some clubs want to be promoted, some don't as where they sit in the system that suits them to be a community-based club, but we have rules now based on winning and losing, if you win you go up, lose a grade so be it, you come down, you gain a grade, that's how it should be...unless your Olympic and can't go up, what happens then Chris??? right now I am rooting for Olympic to win it in 2025 and watch bullshit start flying then....sorry Olympic had to be said...

Going into NPL is not the holy grail for all, but if you do and sorry to offend Dudley here, but they either put a couple of teams in ZL3 or ZL4 if we have one and start that side again (if they can the people to run it) or they go to AA.

Putting them in this conference is a band aid approach to fix problems higher up or so they don't piss the wrong people off and the bad publicity comes a knockin..

There seems to be an influx in bitching and moaning about the decision that?s been made. As the competition lists came out last night, the conference league instantly looked a competitive looking league, far superior to the flailing third grade comp that has been dished up the past few seasons.

CB should be applauded, an 11 team league that?s assembled with clubs that want to be there.

No more forfeits, 12-0 drummings. A solid league.

?Which is piss poor effort by 2 clubs?
I?m sure Azzurri, Olympic, and Westlakes would be impressed with this remark.

[TheCancer]

Use your Brain

and that people is how you use your brain.

[stopper2]

Yeah must be racism, definitely not that people generally don't like people who are loud and arrogant.
Not saying that everyone from the club fits that description, but it doesn't take many before that becomes the club as a whole's rep.

Would be surprised if the ratio of Croatia posting to Stockton posting on these forums didn't exceed 100:1.

"Loud and arrogant" Wow is that why (some) people don't like us lol. Yeah I suppose if we were a nice little club happy to just make the numbers and win a few games every year we would fit in perfectly in the Newcastle mindset of just plodding along, battling away and not making any waves.
Congrats to Stocko for getting promoted, they led the comp for a huge chunk of the season, came 2nd and if the powers want a ZL1 with even numbers than it makes sense to invite them to come up.
Same as what happened to us the previous year (and we actually won the GF to boot) but hey we had all sorts of accusations thrown at us and oh....we are loud and arrogant.

[Taffy]

How about answer mine about what happens if ZL Olympic winning next year, the pyramid says you have to go up and you have to come down....??????

You haven't read the rules? We know they don't go up, this isn't new.


Forward thinking would be the team who drops, organizes a 3rds/Con team or whatever you want to call it to play in ZL1...

And if they can't? Just add another bye, same with the following year when it is someone else, or the team that went up now having to try and find a team they removed only the year before and may not.


Currently no players from ZL could go up to NPL1 or NPL2 which that has always been a big difference

No idea what you mean by this


you mentioned that you hope to have more clubs do this, so the conference league is being set up to suit this style, slowly eroding the 3rd grade culture, in the end, I think 9 out of 12 says a lot on what the clubs actually want and or wanted for next year, Westlakes have already stated they will be back to 3 grades hopefully within a year.

Enough of your conspiracy theories that this has been done simply to appease NPL clubs who quite frankly most wouldn't know or care what is happening. Next you'll be telling me how jet fuel can't melt steel beams.



I've been in this community interdistrict league (ZL or ZPL or Interdistrict 1's, or that's what we used to call it) for quite a while, obviously you haven't, so not sure what page you're turning there? or do you mean I should go play AA??

If you had been in it for as long as you claim, you would know that there used to be promotion and relegation between more than just the top two tiers in Newcastle. If anything we are going back to the days when Rosebuds were playing in the NSL.

And yes I do mean go play All-Age if you don't want rules based on winning and losing.


last one, always play to win....

You were earlier complaining about the rules being based on winning and losing. But now that's what we should be doing?

[riverboy]

Use your Brain
No Sh#t Sherlock. I just thought it was either a very stupid or arrogant style question made about the new head of Newcastle football who would probably be aware or certainly find out who is behind the comment.

Also not sure about having a go about Olympic or Azzurri's decision. Don't we live in a free democracy, surely when asked a question they have the right to make a decision in the best interests of their club.

[JustMe]

I only answering your question about Dudley, why so defensive? You like pumping this new set up, must be personnel.
How about answer mine about what happens if ZL Olympic winning next year, the pyramid says you have to go up and you have to come down....??????

Forward thinking would be the team who drops, organizes a 3rds/Con team or whatever you want to call it to play in ZL1...
By the way Olympic are the only ones left in ZL affiliated with NPL, as Lakes kicked theirs ZL out.

Currently no players from ZL could go up to NPL1 or NPL2 which that has always been a big difference, you mentioned that you hope to have more clubs do this, so the conference league is being set up to suit this style, slowly eroding the 3rd grade culture, in the end, I think 9 out of 12 says a lot on what the clubs actually want and or wanted for next year, Westlakes have already stated they will be back to 3 grades hopefully within a year.

I've been in this community interdistrict league (ZL or ZPL or Interdistrict 1's, or that's what we used to call it) for quite a while, obviously you haven't, so not sure what page you're turning there? or do you mean I should go play AA??

Its over ol' dinosaur. You can cry all you want. 3rds was a joke. But there still is a little comp so stop being a baby. Just because youve been here longer doesnt give you any more clout than anyone else. Maybe this is the best thing to happen to football in Newcastle. It will remove the old barnacles.
ay ay peg leg :rof: :rof:

[Jardelsimage]

Its over ol' dinosaur. You can cry all you want. 3rds was a joke. But there still is a little comp so stop being a baby. Just because youve been here longer doesnt give you any more clout than anyone else. Maybe this is the best thing to happen to football in Newcastle. It will remove the old barnacles.
ay ay peg leg :rof: :rof:



No crying, all i have done is answered a question, then asked another one, which i have not had a straight answer for yet. We all know Olympic can't go up as they are bound to the NPL Olympic and the rules say they can't and as i said, what happens if they win, does the loser in NPL2 get a reprieve? or does No2 in ZL1 get invited up? Thats all..

It's alright found the answer, not actually a rule in the rule section yet???? but it will do.

"For clubs competing in Zone Football League, if you have a team from your club already in the league above your current league, you will not be able to be promoted into that league should you finish as premiers. In the first instance this position will be offered to who finished the regular season in second position. If that team is unable to be promoted, then the relegated team will gain a reprieve and maintain their current league status.

With relation to NPL Men’s and Northern League One, no club will be permitted to have a team in Northern League One if they already have a team competing in NPL Men’s. As there is a play-off series which links both competitions on the pitch, this will ensure there are no competition integrity issues within the promotion and relegation structure of these leagues."

The comp is what it is and as per previous years it will chop and change, sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad, doesn't mean i have to like or dislike it, but in the end, I am allowed to ask question or answer a question, this is a forum after all.

I can pack the commodore 64 away now...:wink:

[Buddha]

Don't really understand this idea that 3rds is full of older blokes. Can't really speak for ZL1 but in ZL2 certainly looked like there were quite a significant number of younger blokes playing that grade mixed in with 1 or 2 more experienced fellas.

Southern United for instance had a team of blokes who's average age was probably about 22 maybe younger. Think the oldest bloke at the Crabs in 3rds was 31-32 and the rest 25 or younger.

There has definitely been a shift over the last couple of years towards a more youthful 3rd grade, which is a good thing isn't it? Integrate those younger kids to get them ready to eventually play Res/1sts?

[Lofty]

Don't really understand this idea that 3rds is full of older blokes. Can't really speak for ZL1 but in ZL2 certainly looked like there were quite a significant number of younger blokes playing that grade mixed in with 1 or 2 more experienced fellas.

Southern United for instance had a team of blokes who's average age was probably about 22 maybe younger. Think the oldest bloke at the Crabs in 3rds was 31-32 and the rest 25 or younger.

There has definitely been a shift over the last couple of years towards a more youthful 3rd grade, which is a good thing isn't it? Integrate those younger kids to get them ready to eventually play Res/1sts?

Majority of clubs had a very youthful third grade. We had 17 players 20 years or younger in our playing squad. Pretty much everyone of those kids start in third grade and over the years have progressed.

It's bemusing for them to talk about this "sunset model" and trying to encourage youth and then to make all these changes with third grade in the same breath.

[Addios]

Don't really understand this idea that 3rds is full of older blokes. Can't really speak for ZL1 but in ZL2 certainly looked like there were quite a significant number of younger blokes playing that grade mixed in with 1 or 2 more experienced fellas.

Southern United for instance had a team of blokes who's average age was probably about 22 maybe younger. Think the oldest bloke at the Crabs in 3rds was 31-32 and the rest 25 or younger.

There has definitely been a shift over the last couple of years towards a more youthful 3rd grade, which is a good thing isn't it? Integrate those younger kids to get them ready to eventually play Res/1sts?
agree but those young lads should or could be playing ressies if they had a bit to offer.

Its a pity the u23s with a few overs concept didnt work. I think that model is pretty good to grow clubs.

[FlatScreen]

So NPL is going to back to a 3match game day, and ZL basically was pushing for a 2 match game day..... crazy pills!

[The Magician]

So NPL is going to back to a 3match game day, and ZL basically was pushing for a 2 match game day..... crazy pills!

In 2026, no change in NPL for 2025.

[FlatScreen]

In 2026, no change in NPL for 2025.

But they are reverting back.... why? Because 3 games are better than 2 is the logical answer!

[Taffy]

In 2026, no change in NPL for 2025.

That's only a maybe and 2025 will have about 75% of games as 3 games

And some of the clubs only want 3 days because they make more money off the U18s. Nothing about making the match days better, the experience better, or improving the game in the region, just about cash

[Taffy]

But they are reverting back.... why? Because 3 games are better than 2 is the logical answer!

That's not why they want it to revert.

[FlatScreen]

That's not why they want it to revert.

Thanks for the explanation..... Clubs having 3 games a day, means more revenue and more involvement. At ZL football level, they aren't trying to make the A-league. And I would assume, NPL would need the extra cash to have any chance of being financially viable.

[Taffy]

Thanks for the explanation..... Clubs having 3 games a day, means more revenue and more involvement.

There isn't more involvement no matter how much NPL clubs claim 16yos hang around all day (Hint: They absolutely don't). And they also aren't hanging around to do the BBQ all day, unlike in Zone.


And I would assume, NPL would need the extra cash to have any chance of being financially viable.

Clubs are plenty financially viable, without trying to get $10 out of a parent to watch their son play. The could just not pay players obscene amounts of money.


But regardless of why NPL clubs are in the wrong, where has this idea that the Zone Conference League won't be played before reserves come from? My understanding is that they will still be on the same day and not played on a different day.

[FlatScreen]

There isn't more involvement no matter how much NPL clubs claim 16yos hang around all day (Hint: They absolutely don't). And they also aren't hanging around to do the BBQ all day, unlike in Zone.



Clubs are plenty financially viable, without trying to get $10 out of a parent to watch their son play. The could just not pay players obscene amounts of money.


But regardless of why NPL clubs are in the wrong, where has this idea that the Zone Conference League won't be played before reserves come from? My understanding is that they will still be on the same day and not played on a different day.

No one said it wouldn't. I said "and ZL basically was pushing for a 2 match game day..... crazy pills! I don't know much about the conference league. The chatter was the competition was being steered towards a 2 team league.

More games is more money, which enables clubs to get better facilities. Paying players huge sums has never made sense to me. It also takes the burden off players paying bigger and bigger rego's in community football.

[Taffy]

No one said it wouldn't. I said "and ZL basically was pushing for a 2 match game day..... crazy pills! I don't know much about the conference league. The chatter was the competition was being steered towards a 2 team league.

Yes, the league is going to two teams but match days will still be 3 game match days.


More games is more money, which enables clubs to get better facilities. Paying players huge sums has never made sense to me. It also takes the burden off players paying bigger and bigger rego's in community football.

Well we are in agreement, because the NPL clubs aren't putting the rego to better facilities, they are putting it to pay has been A-league players $2,000/game.

[MurderOnZidanesFloor]

Well we are in agreement, because the NPL clubs aren't putting the rego to better facilities, they are putting it to pay has been A-league players $2,000/game.

$2000 a game? Is this legitimate? Or more forum dribble? Woah.

[Zone Insider]

$2000 a game? Is this legitimate? Or more forum dribble? Woah.

100% legit - ridiculous numbers

[Taffy]

$2000 a game? Is this legitimate? Or more forum dribble? Woah.

I can't say which clubs or players but it is at maximum amount. We do have other more players getting over $1,000 game. With some clubs spending over $200,000 on players for a year, if they feel they can't survive without charging parents $10 to watch their 16yo play before reserves perhaps there is other spend to look at first

[WOW2.0]

$2000 a game? Is this legitimate? Or more forum dribble? Woah.

It's more in other federations...a couple of years ago, I think it was Bentleigh Greens (maybe Avondale) in Victoria had their player payments exposed (as they'd been investigated for directing players to put their incomes down as untaxable "hobby income"...a number of players were getting as much as $3600/game (untaxed) (believe it was 4 players in that band)

26 rounds, $93,600 (tax free, hobby income)

[Addios]

No one said it wouldn't. I said "and ZL basically was pushing for a 2 match game day..... crazy pills! I don't know much about the conference league. The chatter was the competition was being steered towards a 2 team league.

More games is more money, which enables clubs to get better facilities. Paying players huge sums has never made sense to me. It also takes the burden off players paying bigger and bigger rego's in community football.

More leagues is more money as well yet thats not happening.

Sounds like they arent chasing $$$ that way. They know players and parents are trapped paying stupidly high fees to clubs and the associations.
Council also charging like wounded bulls on ground facilities.