2013 Zone League 2 Thread

[Premy]

NBN is 2nd division on the pyramid A-League is 1st

[sharky21]

Ah so it is. il just shut up now. lol

[pastor399]

NBN is 2nd division on the pyramid A-League is 1st

The 'National Premier Leagues' system is technically the 2nd Tier, and NNSW will not be a member of the NPL until 2014...............so maybe some kind of pseudo 3rd Tier?

[Incognito mosquito]

What's tenambit looking like guys is the game likely to be on tonight?

[true waterboy]

tenambit vs westlakes called off again, hopefully it can be played next week

[sharky21]

What's tenambit looking like guys is the game likely to be on tonight?
after spending hours on Monday getting the ground in top condition. Ducks will be the only ones playing on it for some time. Our ground has become renowned for being slow at recovering from wet weather ( along with a cancel happy council) lucky for us we only have 3 home games left. (if this game V west lakes ever gets played)

[Incognito mosquito]

No dramas the weather certainly hasn't helped but can't do anything about that. Thanks for the heads up

[ace22]

got a mate that wants to change teams from a zpl side any1 got vacancies in there teams

[pastor399]

got a mate that wants to change teams from a zpl side any1 got vacancies in there teams

we don't have much space in our ZL2 side, but i know that our ZPL squad is looking for players, check the Club Notices thread.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

We at Jesmond have had to call on 35's and all age too often as well as play injured players which is frustrating and is the case this weekend too. We're not after outright reserve graders as when (and if) we get most available it just mean someone else misses a game, however if he has ability to play or at the very least push for a first grade spot he is welcome to attend training tonight at Heaton Park, 6.15 - 8pm. Really good bunch of blokes, going ok on ladder in both grades too. Also feel free to send a private message, i'll make sure I check later in day. Cheers

[grub]

A big THANKS to Jesmond tonight for letting us ( Merewether ) train at their ground tonight. Jesmond park is in terrible condition and we dont want to tear it up before saturdays game v Westlakes, even though the council wet weather line has it "open" for use today. Its good to see the clubs getting on these days and im sure we can repay the favour in the future. Also was good to train under some decent lights for once.

[a-gunners]

When's the cutoff for transfers

[ace22]

When's the cutoff for transfers

its got to be real close !

[newie4eva]

When's the cutoff for transfers


30th June is the official cut off date but with the 29th and 30th being on a weekend this year then 5pm Friday 28th is the cut off time people should be looking at.

[gny]

Ace send him up to raymond terrace if hes keen let me know and ill give you a number to contact 

[thephenom]

Correction it is actually ID 2nd division. Zone premiers , new fm , nbn , etc aren't part of the interdistrict association. Sorry to steal your thunder mate.

[Premy]

Correction it is actually ID 2nd division. Zone premiers , new fm , nbn , etc aren't part of the interdistrict association. Sorry to steal your thunder mate.

This statement is wrong on so many levels I'm not going to bother replying how wrong you are

[TXK]

This statement is wrong on so many levels I'm not going to bother replying how wrong you are

Agreed. I think it is best for everyone involved if we just move on from here quietly and without incident haha!

[sharky21]

Tenambit V Uni
Res
3-1 Uni
First
4-0 Uni

[true waterboy]

Mereweather v cats
Res 0-2
Good win from the cats
First goal was a lucky own goal from pressure but missed alot of chances.

Firsts 2-3
Was a great game to watch. IMO the first goal for both teams was harsh. First for westlakes was off a free kick for a player saying "mine". This seems like bobbys pet hate as we have had it against us alot and I personally don't agree with it even if its in the rule books. The free kick was a gem tho.
Mereweather first goal came from our keeper getting to the ball first and contact made by a mereweather player knocked it out of his hands which lead to the goal.
IMO neither team could complain as both were harsh but it would be nice if we could go a game without these types of calls.
As for the game it was a game of two halves. Westlakes were in control of the first half and then had to make a change in the back due to work commitments which gave them a little bit of room and mereweather were very impressive in the second half taking control of the game.

[Swanky]

Olympic v Medowie
Res 3-0
1st 3-3

[Robbery]

Mereweather v cats
Res 0-2
Good win from the cats
First goal was a lucky own goal from pressure but missed alot of chances.

Firsts 2-3
Was a great game to watch. IMO the first goal for both teams was harsh. First for westlakes was off a free kick for a player saying "mine". This seems like bobbys pet hate as we have had it against us alot and I personally don't agree with it even if its in the rule books. The free kick was a gem tho.
Mereweather first goal came from our keeper getting to the ball first and contact made by a mereweather player knocked it out of his hands which lead to the goal.
IMO neither team could complain as both were harsh but it would be nice if we could go a game without these types of calls.
As for the game it was a game of two halves. Westlakes were in control of the first half and then had to make a change in the back due to work commitments which gave them a little bit of room and mereweather were very impressive in the second half taking control of the game.

Yeah, bobby sure did make some "interesting calls" which somewhat killed what was a pretty good game. Till the stupid freekick after 20 mins the game was very even then westlakes took over for the rest of the half as we got a bit frustrated with some of the calls. Westlakes second goal was a very nicely struck volley off the corner that went top corner-ball clearly went out for a goal kick leading up to it but those sort of clear calls ended up going against both teams a few times during the game as you said. Very frustrating to not get a point out of it in the end after coming back to 2-2 with a good effort in the second half.

[true waterboy]

deffo some strange decisions when it came to the ball going out.

On other news does anyone know the score of the mussy jeso game?

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Muswellbrook 1
Jesmond 2

[goaliepersempre]

West lakes in first grade, def felt it in the legs after having a game break game break over last 4 weeks.

Def felt had more of the clear cut chances... Created more chances. The stronger side.

Kinda fell away in the first 25 of the 2nd half.

Uncharacteristic error from cats keeper also made the score line closer... Def foul on the keeper for merewethers first one.


But wow what a strike for cats 2nd goal... Stunning to watch

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Jeso @ Muswellbrook. Reggies 2-2. Again we were poor, didn't get out of the blocks and found ourselves 0-2 before coming back to equalise and probably should have won.

1sts 2-1. Pretty good game I think, which I guess is easier to say from the winning side. Had some quality football, two good teams with a sprinkling of some of the comps best players and 2 teams that were prepared to dig in and have a go. If I had to be a tad of a sook I'd say our striker did get excessively fouled but all's good.

We dominated the first 25 minutes and probably should have scored more than just the one goal, of which came from a good shot parried by the 'keeper and finished with a tap-in. The equaliser then came and Muswellbrook had the best of the remainder of the half, however probably not quite as dominant as we had been. There goal was well worked down the right for a tap in at the back stick from a cut back.

Second half was pretty even overall with both sides having good spells. Our goal came from a free kick headed home. We did have a penalty saved which was going close to top corner. Very impressive 'keeping and made the final 20 minutes of the game all that more exciting. Would have been 3-1 and some breathing space. Bit lucky not to see red as a clear hack from behind as last man on a striker about to pull the trigger inside the box. Ref saw it as he did though and we'll move on, didn't cost us in the end and the other bloke gets to play this weekend.

Cheers to Muswellbrook who had a beer, chat and laugh with us at their sponsors and we awarded players together and had a skull-off which I think may be becoming a bit of a tradition. I'd recommend other clubs making the effort to drop in, they're a good bunch. Good bus trip home and I think we're nursing a few sore heads today, especially with a few of us kicking onto Wests until the early hours.
Lastly, I don't need to mention his name because he knows who he is - cheers to the 'Brook player who took genuine interest in the well-being of our player who had busted his eye open pretty badly. He knew what to do and was happy to help.

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Pretty good wrap up by Jesmond. I don't think we hacked the striker too much at all, but that's how we play blokes with good ball skills. We've been doing it for years. He didn't help his cause by constantly telling our defenders they were rubbish and he was going to raz them and make them look stupid. But all in good fun anyway.
The Jesmond set pieces set the standard for the league and is the strongest part of their game. Really impressive.

I saw the penalty decision from a different perspective than anyone else and I've got to say it was the wrong call. Not that he gave it, that's fair enough. It was one of those calls that could have gone either way, but seeing as he gave the foul then he HAD to send the defender off. A typical complete failure by the sub-standard referee that we all know and love, and at times, hate.

Loved that the Jeso players came back to the club-it rarely happens for us due to the trip home on a Sunday night which quite frankly, eats balls. We understand it and don't really expect to see opposing teams back there but it's always good when they do.

Finally I'd like to say that Jesmond are the real deal. After our loss to them in round one in which I thought they were rubbish (we were just worse), I've watched their progress on here and on the ladder, and seeing them yesterday I'll put my hand up and eat my words.

[goaliepersempre]

yeeww keen for Muswellbrook game this weekend :) :) :)

[The Dreaded Keeper]

I'm pretty keen for the Cats game!!! See if I can throw the ball at that big slow centre back you've got.
I also love watching big Dunc play. Prefer when it isn't against us though, coz he's a gun.

[Cabaye#4]

Charlie Oval is open, however we'll see what this afternoon's anticipated storm does to that... could be up to the refs to make the call.

[pv4]

Westlakes v Muswellbrook

Reserves 4-1
Firsts 1-3

Two extremely depleted sides in firsts.
Mus will feel hard done by for the first goal. westlakes will feel hard done by the mus left back wasn't shown a second and third yellow, particularly early on. After round 1 when no fouls at all were called for mussy it was at least comforting that they were pulled up today

[The Dreaded Keeper]

I didn't see the first goal. I was too busy sleeping!!!!!

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Rumour from the Hamilton vs Jesmond game is that there were 2 spot shots for Jesmond, and Bobby once again reffing. I'm interested to hear if the pens were legit or if they were "Bobby-calls".

Anyone from either team happy to comment?

[Jesmond_sweeper]

Rumour from the Hamilton vs Jesmond game is that there were 2 spot shots for Jesmond, and Bobby once again reffing. I'm interested to hear if the pens were legit or if they were "Bobby-calls".

Anyone from either team happy to comment?

First two were pens, 3rd was very doubtful as I was on half way will not say if it was it wasn't. No doubt Olympic will have their views. Game finished 4-3 to the good guys. Am happy for the 3 points though as we were not even close to our best.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Dreaded - yeah that's half correct. More than happy to comment. Bobby refereed. 3 penalties to Jesmond, all converted (by different takers leaving coach quite nervous). I have a mate in opposition who stated 1 yes, 2 maybe, but 3 no. I'll kinda agree and go 2 definites. Will summarise tomorrow as going to have some more beers but we know we were lucky to get the points today. Overall Olympic the better side but you can't make the defensive decisions (not just the penalties) they did and expect to win football matches. They have the ability to trouble and beat anyone but some of the biggest weaknesses I've seen.

[dingdong]

the ref was shit but the last penalty was a joke. jesmond were pretty ordinary today but they arent on top for no reason. our keeper made maybe 1 2 saves but that was it. Olympic
played awesome and dominated but didn't get the result and that's all that matters. even a couple jesmond players laughed at the decisions but oh well thats football.

[true waterboy]

In cats game I've got no idea why refs have red cards if they aren't going to use them.
The ref was poor at best and the game got out of control.
How 16 was still on the field is beyond me. Cats player had a line break after beating him and slid collecting the back leg of the player from behind. Most obvious card in the game but not given because he was already on a card.
As well as the deiberate hand ball and a player getting man handled to the ground off the ball for no card. All these could easily be a second yellow when the cats were 1-0 up. I overheard a few mussy players talking about how they couldn't Beleive one of there players were still on the field.
Reffing standards need to improve in this grade as there are too many games that are getting out of control

A card count of 0-5 with those above not getting punished is a joke

[dingdong]

In cats game I've got no idea why refs have red cards if they aren't going to use them.
The ref was poor at best and the game got out of control.
How 16 was still on the field is beyond me. Cats player had a line break after beating him and slid collecting the back leg of the player from behind. Most obvious card in the game but not given because he was already on a card.
As well as the deiberate hand ball and a player getting man handled to the ground off the ball for no card. All these could easily be a second yellow when the cats were 1-0 up. I overheard a few mussy players talking about how they couldn't Beleive one of there players were still on the field.
Reffing standards need to improve in this grade as there are too many games that are getting out of control

A card count of 0-5 with those above not getting punished is a joke

i agree. fair enough every team cops it but some of the reffing today in the jeso olympic game was laughable. after the 3rd penalty awarded in 20 mins he started giving us free kicks that werent fouls because he knew he made a mistake. he was in all sorts today and must of have had a big one last night

[The Dreaded Keeper]

It may have been me you overheard. I definitely thought our player gave the ref chances to send him, but the ref called it as he saw it. Similar to the call on our goal we scored that he ruled as offside, from near the centre circle, when your club linesman told me he was clearly onside. Or the first goal where I was knocked unconscious by an elbow and the ball kicked in while I was sleeping. Lol.

I'm not complaining, but I think the ref was woeful both ways and agree strongly that the standard needs to improve. If you want to see some one sided reffing, head to a Jesmond game that Bobby refs. Gives them everything and more. Please note-I'm in NO WAY having a shot a Jeso, it's not their fault Bobby loves them, I he did it for us I'd take it and run!!!

[pv4]

Tbh the first cats goal seemed like a case of how much are keepers a protected species. There were two cats players, one mussy and the keeper all going in for the one ball and the keeper came off worst. No player went in maliciously, and cats scored a bicycle off the rebound. Either team would have been offended if it were called against them imo

[true waterboy]

First goal for u was definitely a goal. I thought it was going to be a square up for some of the bad calls we have had against us this year but wasn't to be. We have had that ref before and he likes to overrule our club linesman if he Beleives he has a clear view of the action.
I think our goal was legit. From where I was it looked like a 50/50 challenge in the air. Both players hit the deck pretty hard.
Edit: see pv4 description

[The Dreaded Keeper]

That's a fair call. I'd question why an elbow was at that height though. But fair enough. It certainly wasn't his worst call of the day. I'm sure he got something right? The full time whistle maybe? He was almost as rubbish as Bobby, or Henry.

[true waterboy]

He probably got full time wrong as well. And i disagree, he made bobby look good today.
Reffing today was an absolute disgrace

[pv4]

How was the drop ball call :rof:

[The Dreaded Keeper]

The drop ball was weird. Our player got a yellow for???? There wasn't a foul? Then when I questioned the ref he said, "If you question the call again ill give them a free kick. You should be happy with a drop ball"!!!! Hahahahaha. What a reet.

[true waterboy]

It was a late studs up tackle after our stricker passed the ball. Since a shot was taken he decided to do a drop ball instead of free kick and hand the mussy defender a yellow
Ref looked so confused as to wat to do. Looked like he was awarding a pen, then a free kick then decided a drop ball lol

[Shayne]

Charlie V Merewether

Reserves

6-0

First

2-0

[Itsmuz]

Medowie-Uni
0-2 ressies.
Very determined and improved medowie side. Uni just strong enough to get a win.

First grade game called off with a medowie defender breaking his leg/ankle about 20 mins in.
Feel for the guy, seemed to be in a lot of pain.

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Sucks for the Medowie player. Wish him all the best in his recovery.

[Chalky_bones]

Just drove past the Jeso Hotel and seen Bobby knocking down a few schooners.

[The Dreaded Keeper]

😜😜😜

[pv4]

Love catching him around town with his Muswellbrook Polo on too :lol:

Poor bloke means well, just doesn't cut it anymore

[Ronan Keating]

2 good teams in westlakes and mussy today. Some good football and bad calls. The best team didn't win but a good game all the same. Mussy now in a good position for the second half of the season :)

[pv4]

The thing that both westlakes AND mussy were impressed with today was both teams were missing 5 or so first graders but the level was still incredibly decent for this league. Disregarding mussys reserves are struggling on the table, it's clear to see both clubs have decent depth this year

[Cabaye#4]

Charlie V Merewether

Reserves

6-0

First

2-0
1st grade was 3-0

[karm]

Bobby has no idea what he is doing. First penalty was okay, Second one was very questionable and the third was ridiculous. Shows why Jesmond are top of the table.

[karm]

and also to the absolute grub who pegged me and nearly broke my neck you are an absolute faggot

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Just a question, how did the better team not win? Mussy had a legit goal-called onside by your club linesman disallowed, then a Cats striker elbowed the keeper out cold to score the Cats only goal. Could have been 4-0?!
Just a thought.

[Incognito mosquito]

Just a question, how did the better team not win? Mussy had a legit goal-called onside by your club linesman disallowed, then a Cats striker elbowed the keeper out cold to score the Cats only goal. Could have been 4-0?!
Just a thought.

If mussy had one possibly 2 of their players sent like they should have could have been a diff game... Just a thought. But that's a could of and yiu dont win games on ifs and buts, mussy ran away with the game in the last 10 abd well done to you. Westlakes shot themselves in the foot big time

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Yeah that's a fair call. I saw one red for one of our players. I think the other was just clumsy and a yellow was OK. Wish big Dunc was there!!!

[Incognito mosquito]

Definitely missed him but he has been out a few weeks and have still been getting results without him which is good.

[true waterboy]

There was at least 3 times a player should have gotten a second yellow. 2 of these were soft but still obvious yellows. As for 16 it was disgraceful he wasn't sent especially after the ref said the game was getting out of hand and cards would come.
These all happened when cats were 1-0 up so deffo would of swung the game.
First goal should have been included but with it being 1-1 and mussy a defender down it would of changed the result!
I Beleive the cats were the better team. Two forced changes by half time due to injuries and another two playing injured after challenges that received a yellow.

[true waterboy]

Bobby has no idea what he is doing. First penalty was okay, Second one was very questionable and the third was ridiculous. Shows why Jesmond are top of the table.
Sounds like jeso have had alot of favourable results when it comes to reffing this year

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Not the strangest day of football I've encountered in 25 years of the game, but is up there somewhere.

Reserve grade 1-1 with Jesmond taking the lead and then having 'keeper sent off for bringing down runaway striker outside the box after misjudging challenge. Everyone has their own opinion on such decisions, I was ok with the red card, others argued that strikers touch was taking him away from goal. Young bloke who only signed a fortnight ago grabbed the gloves and did well. Can't be too disappointed with getting a draw.

1sts was a very strange game and as posted last night, we were certainly lucky to have gotten the 3 points. Any time you get 3 penalties and win 4-3 this has to be the case.

1-0 Olympic with our keeper, who has been very solid, having one slip through his hands.
2-0 Olympic with a superb free kick top corner after a silly foul given away by us. Unstoppable.
2-1 Olympic with their defender handling in the box, not intentional, but hand ball nonetheless. Pen put away.
H/T.
3-1 Olympic with a well worked team goal. Midfielder caught out, another slipped over then their midfield worked a beautiful string of passes to cut our defence open and finish.
3-2 Olympic with nothing short of a clumsy challenge in the box. How this can be argued is beyond me. Pen put away.
3-3 3rd penalty of the game, another for handball. I turned as the event happened so didn't see it the best but will admit was surprised when given. Also, the general consensus here was tough call. Pen put away.
4-3 Jesmond. Cross from our right back called for by their keeper, who didn't get there and our left back showed more urgency to get there in front of there stopper for what proved to be the winner.

Anyone can argue all they want but that's how I saw it.

Thanks to the couple of Olympic players and officials to point out that we can't be happy with that performance and we were lucky to win. Here we were in a little bubble thinking we'd played well. Note, sarcasm. We sung the song hard and celebrated the victory - not the performance. We will deal with the performance at training because that was our second worst of the season. We will analyse why we conceded the 3 and try to improve. I wonder if other teams self-analyse their failings or maybe look for someone to blame...???

Olympic complained on the day about swearing and name calling. Then also about time wasting and gamesmanship. If gamesmanship is not running to collect the ball if leading as full time approaches then so be it. We did not once feign injury or similar and the one time our player took too long at a throw-in he was given a yellow card. As for swearing and name calling I guess most of the time it is he said, she said but it's not something we're known for getting involved in. However, have a look at a couple of posts above.... Then google "pot, kettle, black"

[The Dreaded Keeper]

I think all teams look at their own performance and adjust, don't they? Surely they have to.

As for teams blaming anything but themselves, I understand it at times. I think it's a case by case basis. I'm confident that we can all agree the standard of refereeing this season has been beyond poor.

Now don't get me wrong, I've played in higher levels and bad officiating is everywhere, but some calls I've seen made this year I would have absolutely no drama with calling the ref bias, or even a cheat. Muswellbrook won yesterday, and I'm still complaining about the ref. The Westlakes first grader who ref'd the first half of ressies did a far superior job to the excuse of a ref who showed up and ruined the rest of the day.

Bobby is making game changing calls almost every week. Ref's are consistently over-ruling club linesman on offside calls when they are standing in the ****ing centre circle. It's getting out of hand. We had Bobby give us a pen when our striker tripped on the ball, with the nearest defender a meter away. Thankfully, our midfielder kicked it over the crossbar out of good sportsmanship (so he says).........LoL.

[eggball convert]

Just wondering about these "disgraceful" ref's. Are they state league guys, local branch ref's or just clubbies?
Also this 'bobby' guy, if he is so well known as being a bad ref who keeps appointing him as the club official? If he is a qualified ref and just rocks up to the game without being officially appointed you don't have to let him ref.
Of course if you want decent officials every week come back to all age and us junior branch ref's will do a great job haha

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Personally I'd only ever refer to an official ref as disgraceful. Clubbies do the best job they can, and whenever we have one I caution my blokes before the game to not give them a hard time. I'm happy with the odd bad call. But not game changing calls, week in, week out.

[eggball convert]

Personally I'd only ever refer to an official ref as disgraceful. Clubbies do the best job they can, and whenever we have one I caution my blokes before the game to not give them a hard time. I'm happy with the odd bad call. But not game changing calls, week in, week out.
Having reff'd you the other week at uni as a clubbie I can say you certainly made my job easier and I appreciated it. I also wasn't accusing anyone of saying such things about clubbies in case it was taken that way.
I personally am looking forward to getting my level 3 qualifications so I can start reffing you guys officially and hopefully not show up on these pages.

[true waterboy]

Completely agree with everything the keeper said above about refereeing. Some of the best reffing I've seen this year have been by club officials.

As for rams comments about language I don't Beleive any club has a problem with swearing etc from wat I've seen in this grade. it's something that comes with competitive sport and I personally love hearing passionate supporters / players

[Chalky_bones]

Not the strangest day of football I've encountered in 25 years of the game, but is up there somewhere.

Reserve grade 1-1 with Jesmond taking the lead and then having 'keeper sent off for bringing down runaway striker outside the box after misjudging challenge. Everyone has their own opinion on such decisions, I was ok with the red card, others argued that strikers touch was taking him away from goal. Young bloke who only signed a fortnight ago grabbed the gloves and did well. Can't be too disappointed with getting a draw.

1sts was a very strange game and as posted last night, we were certainly lucky to have gotten the 3 points. Any time you get 3 penalties and win 4-3 this has to be the case.

1-0 Olympic with our keeper, who has been very solid, having one slip through his hands.
2-0 Olympic with a superb free kick top corner after a silly foul given away by us. Unstoppable.
2-1 Olympic with their defender handling in the box, not intentional, but hand ball nonetheless. Pen put away.
H/T.
3-1 Olympic with a well worked team goal. Midfielder caught out, another slipped over then their midfield worked a beautiful string of passes to cut our defence open and finish.
3-2 Olympic with nothing short of a clumsy challenge in the box. How this can be argued is beyond me. Pen put away.
3-3 3rd penalty of the game, another for handball. I turned as the event happened so didn't see it the best but will admit was surprised when given. Also, the general consensus here was tough call. Pen put away.
4-3 Jesmond. Cross from our right back called for by their keeper, who didn't get there and our left back showed more urgency to get there in front of there stopper for what proved to be the winner.

Anyone can argue all they want but that's how I saw it.

Thanks to the couple of Olympic players and officials to point out that we can't be happy with that performance and we were lucky to win. Here we were in a little bubble thinking we'd played well. Note, sarcasm. We sung the song hard and celebrated the victory - not the performance. We will deal with the performance at training because that was our second worst of the season. We will analyse why we conceded the 3 and try to improve. I wonder if other teams self-analyse their failings or maybe look for someone to blame...???

Olympic complained on the day about swearing and name calling. Then also about time wasting and gamesmanship. If gamesmanship is not running to collect the ball if leading as full time approaches then so be it. We did not once feign injury or similar and the one time our player took too long at a throw-in he was given a yellow card. As for swearing and name calling I guess most of the time it is he said, she said but it's not something we're known for getting involved in. However, have a look at a couple of posts above.... Then google "pot, kettle, black"

I'll put my hand up and take responsibility for the 4th goal. I did call, second guessed myself, and ended up paying for it. So really that should only leave the game at 3-2. Second and third penalty's very very dodgy. First one, i'll say yes. We could have won the game by at least 5 or 6, but the post and a few good saves by the keeper denied us. Bobby definately your saviour from the day.

[Charlie Bubblegum]

How about that rugby score. Off tap.

[TXK]

Lots of comments about the Mussy vs Westlakes game and I think it shows again that Westlakes really aren't good losers. I have a lot of very very good mates in that team so have been trying to avoid starting something, but it has finally gotten the better of me. All this talk about "Muswellbrook's number 16 should have been sent off, would have changed the game..." etc etc and all of these what-ifs are a load of bullshit. If you are going to talk about what-ifs lets look at it a bit deeper... First off the bat, Mussy 1-0 up after 15-20 minutes disallowed by referee when linesman has stated several times that our player was clearly onside score remains 0-0 and Westlakes then get a bit of a boost. Incident number two, Westlakes score a contentious goal, could easily be argued our keeper was fouled as he was knocked out and despite the goal being a tidy finish on the bicycle the goalscorers foot was mere inches from connecting with our players face could easily be called a foot but goal stands. Even Westlakes goalscorer admitted it was lucky. This leaves Muswellbrook at 1-0 down at half time after two iffy refereeing decisions and we could have been forgiven for either dropping our heads and giving up or completely losing the plot, however despite what majority of the Westlakes boys have said, we played some very decent football in the first period and felt we were very much in this game.

Second half and a moment that everyone has neglected to point out thus far, Westlakes had an opportunity put the game to bed when their striker blazed the ball wide from 6 yards out with an open goal begging to be hit in front of him. Yes there was a possibility of one of our players receiving a second yellow card which COULD have made things a bit different, but with there already being three key moments that if they hadn't happened COULD have made the game "a bit different", I believe this point is moot. Muswellbrook kept battling and didn't get their heads down and continued to produce decent chance on the Westlakes goal with an 18 and a 17 year old leading the line and we eventually broke through to make it 1-1. It was interesting hearing the Westlakes skipper calling out that "they (Muswellbrook) don't even want this boys" not long after we scored the equaliser, but i don't think even he believed himself. We kept pushing, fighting for every ball and pressing in attack and were rewarded for our efforts with two late goals and sealing the victory. At the end of the day the better team won, and no I'm not at all saying Westlakes were poor, but we battled harder, scored more goals, conceded less, and created more chances than Westlakes, simple.

It has to be said that Westlakes are no saints either, people can say what they want about Muswellbrook's tackling and paint us as thugs, but the way some Westlakes players carry themselves on the pitch and try to influence the referee at every opportunity isn't right and if they focused less on trying get caught up in shit with referees and other teams, and focused on putting more effort into digging deep trying to win a football match, they might have a few more points on the table. Alas, Mussy head back up the Valley with three points after another successful raid.

On another note from a football analysis point of view. Westlakes whole game play is based on their right hand side of the pitch. They stack the right ridiculously, no doubt as they have some handy player on that side, but it leaves their left very vulnerable. All three of our goals came from attacks down left flank and all our good passages of play in the first half also came from this position. It would also go a little way to explaining why both our left wing-back and left centre-back both picked up cards on the day as they were battling hard when under the pump.

As I said I have plenty of mates in that Westlakes team and really enjoy playing them and catching up, however I had to get my views on this match out, as I feel previous comments hadn't painted the full picture. I'm sure Westlakes will be there at the end of the season if they can get a full team on the paddock, just need to look at what they themselves can do to turn it around as opposed to looking at outside sources for blame.

IN the end three points for my boys, after a poor display against a good Jesmond side the previous week, I'm cheering!

[Charlie Bubblegum]

23-21. Unbelievable.

[pv4]

Like I originally said, both teams would have felt hard done by for various things.

Westlakes need to actually control the middle of the park or the pipedream fantasy of promotion will evade us again. Whichever westlakes boys have said we played better and mussy were worse, I dont agree with. We weren't good at all yesterday - everything was way too telegraphed and the one sided wing play was our only go to move. We havent controlled the middle of the park in weeks, arguably for most of the year, and apart from the games such as round 1 olympic where we noticeably controlled that middle, we haven't looked the overly dominant team.

Like I said - good competitive game for such depleted teams

[the_butcher]

2 good teams in westlakes and mussy today. The best team didn't win but a good game all the same

In my many years of reading rubbish on this forum, this just about takes the cake. Westlakes conceded 4 goals (3 officially) and scored 1. Your definition of the word "best" must be very different to that of the dictionary's.

Instead of reviewing the match through delusional, rose-coloured glasses, maybe Westlakes should have a look at the reasons why they conceded 4 goals (3 officially) at home to a team that had to travel 2.5 hours to get there.

I really don't know why any of these comments surprise me, it's the same old dribble from the serial whingers & excuse-makers of the competition.

On a positive note, congratulations to Muswellbrook for being a consistently competitive force in the ID competition even though they are forced to travel a 4+ hour round-trip every second week. It's not an easy thing for those with families, work commitments etc. Us Newy boys take for granted that we only have to travel 10 mins for our away games.

Edit: as I'm writing all that PV4 comes to the rescue for Westlakes by talking sense. Well played Macca (in regards to the forum) and hopefully you're back playing more soon, the boys need you by the sounds of it!

[pv4]

Score seemed to kind of blow out at the end, I don't think that has been mentioned. Game looked headed for a draw or a 1 goal lead to either side, and an error here and there blew it out a little.

Ha thanks bud. Ask the dreaded keeper how those defensive set pieces are going :rof:

[the_butcher]

Score seemed to kind of blow out at the end, I don't think that has been mentioned. Game looked headed for a draw or a 1 goal lead to either side, and an error here and there blew it out a little.

Ha thanks bud. Ask the dreaded keeper how those defensive set pieces are going :rof:

The game goes for 90 minutes pal. Sounds like paying credit to muswellbrook for finishing the game strong might have been warranted. Saying the game looked like being a draw before Muswellbrook put 2 past you maybe highlights some complacency within the Westlakes camp?

Haha surely it wasn't your elbow that put him down?

[pv4]

Probably, we kind of just folded right at the end

Ha not me (tbh I didn't see an elbow, could have been a mussy elbow for all I know), ask him about the reserves set pieces :rof:

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Credit where due pv4 owned me on a defensive set piece in ressies. Lost me easily.......and then missed a free header.......

[pv4]

Credit where due pv4 owned me on a defensive set piece in ressies. Lost me easily.......and then missed a free header.......

:rof: the crossbar is still shaking

At least my free shot was on target :rof:

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Lolololll!!!

[TXK]

Like I originally said, both teams would have felt hard done by for various things.

Westlakes need to actually control the middle of the park or the pipedream fantasy of promotion will evade us again. Whichever westlakes boys have said we played better and mussy were worse, I dont agree with. We weren't good at all yesterday - everything was way too telegraphed and the one sided wing play was our only go to move. We havent controlled the middle of the park in weeks, arguably for most of the year, and apart from the games such as round 1 olympic where we noticeably controlled that middle, we haven't looked the overly dominant team.

Like I said - good competitive game for such depleted teams

You sir, are the reason I used the term "most" when referring to the Westlakes boys, not "all". Your honesty is a breath of fresh air! And yes, was definitely a good competitive game as you said with both sides depleted, was very enjoyable to play in.

[the_butcher]

:rof: the crossbar is still shaking

At least my free shot was on target :rof:

Sorry mate but I think you'll find hitting the cross bar is "off target" haha

Always takes a decent effort to get the better of the dreaded keeper though so well done 😊

[pv4]

Sorry mate but I think you'll find hitting the cross bar is "off target" haha

Always takes a decent effort to get the better of the dreaded keeper though so well done ��

:rof: well let's say it was a hell of a lot closer to the target than his efforts :rof: there is currently a search party for the missing ball boy chasing down the dreadful (sorry, had to) shot

[The Dreaded Keeper]

My only defence is the 30 or so yards my shot, with my bad foot (if you can call it that) had to cover. As opposed to your unchallenged header from what.......5 yards?

[outsider]

Just wondering about these "disgraceful" ref's. Are they state league guys, local branch ref's or just clubbies?
Also this 'bobby' guy, if he is so well known as being a bad ref who keeps appointing him as the club official? If he is a qualified ref and just rocks up to the game without being officially appointed you don't have to let him ref.
Of course if you want decent officials every week come back to all age and us junior branch ref's will do a great job haha

Not appointed by Senior Referees Branch-used to be a referee but "retired"at the end of last year.May need to ask Jesmond where he comes from-does he referee in referees uniform?

[Jesmond_sweeper]

Not appointed by Senior Referees Branch-used to be a referee but "retired"at the end of last year.May need to ask Jesmond where he comes from-does he referee in referees uniform?

He referees in a clown suit and a top hat, sometimes even a mankini. It is a conspiracy I tell ya!!! The refs turn up, ref in their refs uniform, collect their coin after 90 mins and go home.... We then see them again next weekend or sometimes during the week to receive their massive cash bribes which is covered by us charging our players $920 each for rego.

[pv4]

Not appointed by Senior Referees Branch-used to be a referee but "retired"at the end of last year.May need to ask Jesmond where he comes from-does he referee in referees uniform?

He's located in Glendale from what I'm led to believe. Doesn't officially ref, just hangs around basically Jesmond & Muswellbrook and spots them when no legit refs come to show. He wears the full on refs outfit and all.

[Chalky_bones]

The dreaded keeper..... Best keeper in the league. I would even go as far as saying the best in a lot of the leagues.

[The Dreaded Keeper]

We had Bobby heaps during the first round of competition. Seen some horrid calls. As many for us as against us. He means well and all but passion overrides good intentions most of the time.

I'd normally call Jesmond Sweeper's comment sarcasm but having experienced some of Bobby's calls that have gone their way, I'm not quite sure.........

[outsider]

He's located in Glendale from what I'm led to believe. Doesn't officially ref, just hangs around basically Jesmond & Muswellbrook and spots them when no legit refs come to show. He wears the full on refs outfit and all.

Then it is obvious that jesmond and Muswellbrook are happy with him.It is up to the home club to appoint referees if there are none appointed.If clubs are not happy then they need to take it up with the appropriate people.

[the_butcher]

The dreaded keeper..... Best keeper in the league. I would even go as far as saying the best in a lot of the leagues.

I agree. Goes alright out on the field too for a keeper (might explain his wayward shot PV4 :rof::rof:

As for bobby, I don't think there are many muswellbrook players or supporters that are "happy" with him. I'd probably say its more a case of being a country town with very slim pickings in the referee department so have to take what they can get.

[true waterboy]

How good would it be to win/lose a game and not have shocking calls that have/could of changed the game.
I think our loss to mereweather in the first round is the only game that comes to mind where the ref didn't have an impact on the game.
That being said at least we are getting at least 1 ref to each game the majority of the time. I think there was only 1 game where we Havnt had a ref.
I'd still take bobby over no ref. from what I've seen he's normally pretty even with his calls.

[sharky21]

There is also another ref in well id say in bobbys league of officiating. Had him for a few games think his name is Murray. He and bobby were the reason I asked before If there was a standard that had to be met by the officials to ref in these comps.
And maybe outsider you could answer this? Y are the good refs from the allage comps not coming up to ref in our comps. Do the refs themselves chose where they want to ref??

[pv4]

I think the biggest shock/horror of this last few pages of this thread is that Jesmond apparently scored a goal that wasn't from a set piece :rof:

[outsider]

There is also another ref in well id say in bobbys league of officiating. Had him for a few games think his name is Murray. He and bobby were the reason I asked before If there was a standard that had to be met by the officials to ref in these comps.
And maybe outsider you could answer this? Y are the good refs from the allage comps not coming up to ref in our comps. Do the refs themselves chose where they want to ref??

Referees who do the all age football are members of the junior referees branches and have no obligation to make themselves available for senior football.We are fortunate that the junior branches do supply referees when not required to officiate at their own competition games but those who referee do so by choice and are not forced to do so.I have said previously that many referees chose not to referee senior football because of the treatment they receive at that level.

[pastor399]

Referees who do the all age football are members of the junior referees branches and have no obligation to make themselves available for senior football.We are fortunate that the junior branches do supply referees when not required to officiate at their own competition games but those who referee do so by choice and are not forced to do so.I have said previously that many referees chose not to referee senior football because of the treatment they receive at that level.

It's also a lot more relaxed for them to get paid blowing random whistles at All Age games than having to referee 1st Grade in any of the Senior comps and take the abuse, tension, testosterone and anger that is always present and usually directed at them in ZL football, not to mention they don't get bad mouthed every second week in the Zone League 2 thread on newcastlefootball.net

[pv4]

Outsider, another allage refs related question:

In round 1 of this year, Westlakes All Age & Westlakes First grade played at the same time at Rathmines Oval. Allage had a ref and two linesmen, and first grade had no refs or linesmen. Before the game Allage were happy for first grade to have not only one, but two of their refs as first grade were the priority. We asked the refs if one or two of them could ref firsts instead of allage, and the answer was that they were more than happy to but were not allowed to do so & they would get in heaps of trouble if they did it - even if they didn't tell the federation(s) that it happened. Were they really not allowed to do that, even just one of them?

[sharky21]

Referees who do the all age football are members of the junior referees branches and have no obligation to make themselves available for senior football.We are fortunate that the junior branches do supply referees when not required to officiate at their own competition games but those who referee do so by choice and are not forced to do so.I have said previously that many referees chose not to referee senior football because of the treatment they receive at that level.

That is a fair point bout the treatment and I can understand y they choose not to do so. But for example if the treatment of refs was the same In All age as in our comp. Is there a insensitive for the top refs in the junior system to step up to the senior?And if so how does it work the ref chooses to go up or they have to be selected??
Just wondering if there is an insensitive for good junior refs to make the step up or don't it matter whether u are above average or not and they just pick who ever puts there hand up first??

[goaliepersempre]

Outsider, another allage refs related question:

In round 1 of this year, Westlakes All Age & Westlakes First grade played at the same time at Rathmines Oval. Allage had a ref and two linesmen, and first grade had no refs or linesmen. Before the game Allage were happy for first grade to have not only one, but two of their refs as first grade were the priority. We asked the refs if one or two of them could ref firsts instead of allage, and the answer was that they were more than happy to but were not allowed to do so & they would get in heaps of trouble if they did it - even if they didn't tell the federation(s) that it happened. Were they really not allowed to do that, even just one of them?


This is true, there is all manner of issues regarding insurance etc with doing a game. However sometimes a call to the appointments coordinator or ref area executive could give permission to do the games...

[eggball convert]

Is there a incentive for the top refs in the junior system to step up to the senior?And if so how does it work the ref chooses to go up or they have to be selected??
Just wondering if there is an incentive for good junior refs to make the step up or don't it matter whether u are above average or not and they just pick who ever puts there hand up first??

Not sure about the older guys but the younger ones who are identified as good ref's are being placed on nbn games to either referee the 17s or run lines on the 19s and 23s. I know one guy who has been refereeing for quite some time (still only 22) and has been asked to join the state league branch numerous times but he is happy doing the lower grade nbn and all age as he said the state league guys prefer if you don't play yourself.

[goaliepersempre]

That is a fair point bout the treatment and I can understand y they choose not to do so. But for example if the treatment of refs was the same In All age as in our comp. Is there a insensitive for the top refs in the junior system to step up to the senior?And if so how does it work the ref chooses to go up or they have to be selected??
Just wondering if there is an insensitive for good junior refs to make the step up or don't it matter whether u are above average or not and they just pick who ever puts there hand up first??

there are a manner of programs, however some of the good referees I know that have learnt. All play at a certain level. Which makes it hard to near impossible to continue on to referee at the high level.

There is ever year the TAP camps that the areas select young referees to go up for a weekend of training etc at the NSW champs etc.

In my opinion the onset of small sided games and the raising of the age to start ref. Definitely makes it hard to get young referees through. Refereeing irrespective what people say is hard thing to do and takes a lot of time and key factor experience to become better.

[goaliepersempre]

As for westlakes Muswellbrook game. cannot agree more with pv4 and the fact that we haven't for some time controlled the midfield. We have scraped through in the past when we most likely didn't deserve it..

But TXK pretty sure the Muswellbrook players also need to watch how they carry on at the Ref. Both sides are guilty here...

But I do have to say Muswellbrook turned up with some passion and wanted to play. Westlakes it seems have played with zero passion... Yes they might want to be there and are putting in. But the last ditch effort wasn't there. That little bit extra wasn't there.

Also our defence was upturned when we had 3 different CBs during the game.

[true waterboy]

It was a pretty even game which I'm sure both teams beleive they had the edge.
the reffing meant that no matter the loser they would feel hard done by.
All this talk of not wanting to ref ids because of the hard time given to refs I don't think this would happen with new refs. IMO clubs go easy on club refs and/or the younger refs. They are just over EXPERIENCED refs making errors that have an impact on games.

[TXK]

As for westlakes Muswellbrook game. cannot agree more with pv4 and the fact that we haven't for some time controlled the midfield. We have scraped through in the past when we most likely didn't deserve it..

But TXK pretty sure the Muswellbrook players also need to watch how they carry on at the Ref. Both sides are guilty here...

But I do have to say Muswellbrook turned up with some passion and wanted to play. Westlakes it seems have played with zero passion... Yes they might want to be there and are putting in. But the last ditch effort wasn't there. That little bit extra wasn't there.

Also our defence was upturned when we had 3 different CBs during the game.

No complaints from me re: comment on a couple of our boys and the ref. one in particular has been a bit of an issue in that regard and he got carded for it on the day despite being told to keep quiet. It was just something I noticed in particular with your skipper and big Benny. The skipper should be setting an example to trying to make those last ditch efforts you mentioned you have been lacking, lifting his troops rather than mouthing off all game, his attitude outweighs his ability. You could see it affect a couple of the boys as well, Fingers had a really really good first half but late in the game followed the skippers lead in losing his head a little and his play in the end. Benny is a really talented footballer but seems to have lost his way a but this season, real shame because I really like the guy too.

But back to my original agreeing with you, yes, there are couple of our boys to who would be well served keeping their minds on the football and off the ref/stirring!

[outsider]

Outsider, another allage refs related question:

In round 1 of this year, Westlakes All Age & Westlakes First grade played at the same time at Rathmines Oval. Allage had a ref and two linesmen, and first grade had no refs or linesmen. Before the game Allage were happy for first grade to have not only one, but two of their refs as first grade were the priority. We asked the refs if one or two of them could ref firsts instead of allage, and the answer was that they were more than happy to but were not allowed to do so & they would get in heaps of trouble if they did it - even if they didn't tell the federation(s) that it happened. Were they really not allowed to do that, even just one of them?

I would assume that the referees doing all age were appointed by Macquarie Referees Association for whom they referee every week and therefore that is their obligation.They would in all probability be dealt with by their management committee for not fulfilling their appointments if they opted to do the Westlakes first grade game and rightly so.The junior football branches are entitled to have the appointed referees do their games and if their referees wanted to referee senior football they would join the senior referees and make themselves available for senior games.
Would the senior clubs be happy if one of their referees was taken away to referee junior games just because no referee turned up for the all age games-i think not.

[true waterboy]

No complaints from me re: comment on a couple of our boys and the ref. one in particular has been a bit of an issue in that regard and he got carded for it on the day despite being told to keep quiet. It was just something I noticed in particular with your skipper and big Benny. The skipper should be setting an example to trying to make those last ditch efforts you mentioned you have been lacking, lifting his troops rather than mouthing off all game, his attitude outweighs his ability. You could see it affect a couple of the boys as well, Fingers had a really really good first half but late in the game followed the skippers lead in losing his head a little and his play in the end. Benny is a really talented footballer but seems to have lost his way a but this season, real shame because I really like the guy too.

But back to my original agreeing with you, yes, there are couple of our boys to who would be well served keeping their minds on the football and off the ref/stirring!
Agree with all of this

[Incognito mosquito]

I don't wanna keep going on about the cats mussy game I feel as though about every second of the match has been covered. I disagree with your comments txk about our skip and how our boys don't play with passion. Our skip is probably one of the hardest workers on the field and leads by example going in hard with tackles and i know i certainly play with my heart on my sleeve as do the rest of the boys.

When playin I didn't notice any more than normal gibbering to the reff than what happens most weeks. It was an arm wrestle right through the entire game until about 10 to go when your boys scored on the counter with a nice goal. Even then we still rallied but then from where I was looked like a communication error between keeper and fullback cost is the third heads did dip which was upsetting but by that stage there was about 2 mins to go.

I know the cats are perennial whiners on here and I'm sorry bout the long post. Congrats on the good win mussy hopefully we get to vs ya in the semis and show you that we do play with passion.

[pv4]

Tenambit v westlakes

Reserves 0-2
Firsts 1-8

Now I know how mussy have felt over so many years needing to travel with a squad of 18 (inc a few playing injured)!

[true waterboy]

Firsts was a good tough but clean battle. Got to mention the ref. she was exceptional. Probs one of the best refs in interdistrict levels. Pulled up everything and looked to earn the respect of players was great to see. Club linesman on the fair side was also very good. Helped call fouls and couldn't argue any of his decisions.

As for ressies game got a little out of hand. Game started late due to lights not working and both halves were 30min with only 10min warm up. Tennambit ended up getting 2 yellows for dangerous tackles, about 4 for abusing the ref and coach sent from feild.
Our second goal was from a pen. 50/50 call for a player sliding from behind in the box. To me he looked to get all ball but still can't tackle from behind.

[pv4]

Firsts was a good tough but clean battle. Got to mention the ref. she was exceptional. Probs one of the best refs in interdistrict levels.

She was probably the best we've had, but still made so many calls that, in a game when the score didn't blow out, would be game-changing and let's-describe-it-on-the-foz-worthy. The two biggest that come to mind was for Westlakes 2nd or 3rd goal, their keeper was on his post setting their wall up & the ref blew for the kick to be taken - which the Cats player did & caught the keeper completely off guard (we apologized to the keeper afterwards). The second call was for Westlakes 4th or 5th, the Cats player was brought down in the box by the Sharks keeper whilst on his way to walking the ball into the goals after rounding a fair few Sharkes players along the way - no red, or even yellow, was given for this last-man goal-preventing challenge. There were a couple of other things that like I said in a game if the scores hadn't blown out, would have seen the ref at the centre of attention once again. But yep - best we've had yet so far (which may again say something about the overall level of reffing - but hey it must be us shxx senior players).

[true waterboy]

Gotto admit I missed the free kick one. I have noticed refs doing this often in games but this is probs first goal from it.
Is there a rule about the amount of time given to keepers?

If it was the first pen, I don't think it was worthy of any cards. Just a silly challenge in the box and fr where I was it looked like it would of been contained. It also appeared to be awarded by the club linesman on the far side. The second straight after which was clearly last man, I woulda been happy with watever was given.
I missed tennambits pen so don't know wat happened there

[pv4]

Gotto admit I missed the free kick one. I have noticed refs doing this often in games but this is probs first goal from it.
Is there a rule about the amount of time given to keepers?

I'm sure there's rules here & there about the amount of time and it was probably fine that she called it quick, but usually a bit of common sense goes a long way. In the case last night, I doubt the keeper had been at the post for longer than 2 seconds before she blew the whistle - no keeper in the world could have set his wall quick enough to get in position for what happened. Still an unreal hit, and dat swerve :wub: but we felt the keeper was hard done by & I imagine he felt the same too.

[sharky21]

In res last night it was the quietest game in goals I have ever had and I could go on bout how the better team lost and all that crap but as we all know if u dnt take ur chance (or get the gift opportunitys provided by the refs) u ain't going to win games. Whilst the first goal was a very well taken goal it should never have come about after a challenge the ref deemed fair only to have the "club" linesman ( can only assume he was from u guys as iv never met him in the 12 yrs iv been at the club) throw his flag up. Ref blows whistle thinking its offside to then find out it wasn't and instead of the drop ball that should have happened for this stuff up he gave the free kick so he didn't look like a clown. ( too late). And as for the pen. Should never have been was a great sliding challenge that got all ball and even the player who lost the ball said he dnt know y it was given. Go figure.

And in first grade first goal was off side but all I could do was laugh at the explanation the linesman gave. As he said he was held on by an on rushing player from the goal line. unfortunately for him that was our keeper. As for the second half all I can gather is Big Dog went to bed and so did we.

Last two weeks have been pretty bad results for us and not games we are proud off.

[pv4]

And in first grade first goal was off side but all I could do was laugh at the explanation the linesman gave. As he said he was held on by an on rushing player from the goal line. unfortunately for him that was our keeper. As for the second half all I can gather is Big Dog went to bed and so did we.

I didn't see whether first was on or off tbh.

Best offside call had to be that same (official) linesman calling the same Westlakes player offside for the following: Westlakes player A has ball, is running at Tenambit defender B and Tenambit defender C. No other Westlakes players get a letter because they were nowhere near the play. A runs the ball into B, who tries a hoofing clearance, which hits C and rebounds back to A's feet. Offside is called :rof:

EDIT: a question for the blokes who know the rules on here. If a coach is sent from the bench in reserves, can he return to the bench in firsts?

[Incognito mosquito]

The linesman was no affiliation with us we thought he was with you guys haha.

Res grade, was pretty even but tenambit lost their heads mouthing off and going in for rubbish tackles and body checks with one bloke being told to be taken off or he'd get sent.

Firsts, pretty good summary above hard done by for the first goal but other than that westlakes kept playing after halftime when tenambit clocked off.

[outsider]

I'm sure there's rules here & there about the amount of time and it was probably fine that she called it quick, but usually a bit of common sense goes a long way. In the case last night, I doubt the keeper had been at the post for longer than 2 seconds before she blew the whistle - no keeper in the world could have set his wall quick enough to get in position for what happened. Still an unreal hit, and dat swerve :wub: but we felt the keeper was hard done by & I imagine he felt the same too.

There is no requirement for any set amount of time allowed for defenders to set up a wall.If a quick free kick is taken and an opponent intercepts the ball then it is play on.If a quick free kick is taken and an opponent who is near the ball deliberately prevents him taking the free kick,the referee must caution the player for preventing the taking of the free kick.
All this and more can be found on page 71 of the Laws of the Game 2013 edition.Makes interesting reading which I can recommend to all players for a new experience.

[pv4]

Would the senior clubs be happy if one of their referees was taken away to referee junior games just because no referee turned up for the all age games-i think not.

The difference in the scenario I posted about was all three parties (Allage, firsts AND the referees) were all more than happy for it to happen. Firsts only wanted 1 ref and Allage offered two of the three. And the refs were going to be paid accordingly, which they were more than happy about - it was solely that the refs were under the impression they weren't allowed to do it, and my question was why aren't they, and is there any way the juniors/seniors refs can accommodate a scenario like this


There is no requirement for any set amount of time allowed for defenders to set up a wall.If a quick free kick is taken and an opponent intercepts the ball then it is play on.If a quick free kick is taken and an opponent who is near the ball deliberately prevents him taking the free kick,the referee must caution the player for preventing the taking of the free kick.
All this and more can be found on page 71 of the Laws of the Game 2013 edition.Makes interesting reading which I can recommend to all players for a new experience.

Like I said - I'm sure she was technically in the right, it's just that usually when a freekick turns into a "Ceremonial Free Kick" from a "Quick Free Kick" the referee uses common sense and allows the keeper time to set a wall (note: the ref had moved the wall back so technically it was no longer classified as a Quick Free Kick, my readings tell me). By the law, the Sharks keeper knew, and said he knew, that the goal was legit. A bit of eagerness led to the Cats player capitalizing on it, but even he felt bad afterwards.

[true waterboy]

In res last night it was the quietest game in goals I have ever had and I could go on bout how the better team lost and all that crap but as we all know if u dnt take ur chance (or get the gift opportunitys provided by the refs) u ain't going to win games.

lol please do
res was a pretty even game but westlakes were given the win by the disgraceful efforts of the tenambit senior players. never played a game where that many players were given multiple warnings to shut there mouth (probably shows they werent doing as well as you beleive they were) and as mosquito said, the ref actually told the coach to sub one of the senior players before he gets sent.
as for these gift opportunities by the ref they were actully gifted by efforts of said tennambit players
that was the only difference between the sides. when tenambit played soccer it was a pretty even game

[sharky21]

lol please do
res was a pretty even game but westlakes were given the win by the disgraceful efforts of the tenambit senior players. never played a game where that many players were given multiple warnings to shut there mouth (probably shows they werent doing as well as you beleive they were) and as mosquito said, the ref actually told the coach to sub one of the senior players before he gets sent.
as for these gift opportunities by the ref they were actully gifted by efforts of said tennambit players
that was the only difference between the sides. when tenambit played soccer it was a pretty even game
The reason our senior players may have lost their heads had nothing to do with the way ur team played it was more the case once again we did not take the chances we created and even attempt to take the shots when in range. We do have a few guys who do have a bit to much to say to the refs myself being the head of the pack in that one. my passion turns into a case of idiocy almost,way to often.
I take nothing away from they way u guys played. U knock it around well and from my view point I was impressed. I just didn't think in the final third u threatened as I cut out most thru balls and did not havea save that I would consider difficult to make. But at the end o f the day 3 points to ur mob. I congratulate u and look forward to the re match on ur turf.

[Incognito mosquito]

I may eat my words here but I don't think anyone has said that westlakes ressies created heaps of opportunities or dominated the game. We slotted prob out only/best oppourtunites and defended well enough. Tenambit could have really troubled us if they played smart but were too busy imploding on themselves.

[true waterboy]

I may eat my words here but I don't think anyone has said that westlakes ressies created heaps of opportunities or dominated the game. We slotted prob out only/best oppourtunites and defended well enough. Tenambit could have really troubled us if they played smart but were too busy imploding on themselves.

Pretty sure i missed an easy 1v1 with the keeper, completely missed the goals ...:blush:

[pv4]

I got to see SFA of reserves tbh. The only part I saw was the Sharks guy's hissy that deserved at least 3 yellows for seperate incidents (one the ram in the back, two the words to the ref, three the attempted kick of the ball at the guy on the ground which eventuated in kicking it well away), but was only given one plus told to be subbed (and subsequently the coach was told to leave the bench also, but was OK to be there for firsts apparently). That hilarious couple of minutes aside, I saw bugger all.

I imagine/hope it will be easier the second time round for both Westlakes sides though. We had 5 players who regularly start first grade, and 2 regular starting reserve graders out. Plus a fair few were playing injured, and one first grader played the entire reserves game (two if you count the keeper). I have no idea what kind of numbers Tenambit were running though tbf.

Yo Sharky - what's the chances of you playing firsts next time round?

[Incognito mosquito]

Pretty sure i missed an easy 1v1 with the keeper, completely missed the goals ...:blush:

It's never easy for you hahahajus kidding bud

[Reds Forever]

Was in the wall for the free kick that Westlakes scored. Had no concerns with the time it took to take free kick. It was quite some time.

Problem was that I normally line wall up with the keeper, however another player joined the wall next to me and attempted to line wall up. However he moved us the wrong way to what keeper wanted.

Ref blew whistle and we were caught out.

Great free kick with plenty of swerve and dip.

[sharky21]

Yo Sharky - what's the chances of you playing firsts next time round?

Mate no idea i just show up and play were im told and if the coaches lucky without complaint (thats very rare i might add lol) I usually spend half the game telling the coach to hook our keeper ( in joke as im real good mates with him) but last night was too cold to even start with that lol.

[goaliepersempre]

ohwell all im going to say is I was basically asleep for 2 games :sup:

[pv4]

Mate no idea i just show up and play were im told and if the coaches lucky without complaint (thats very rare i might add lol) I usually spend half the game telling the coach to hook our keeper ( in joke as im real good mates with him) but last night was too cold to even start with that lol.

Hopefully you can get a run for the return leg then mate! Your pal didn't handle crosses or shots too well, spilled a heap - if only we followed him up for them!

[sharky21]

Hopefully you can get a run for the return leg then mate! Your pal didn't handle crosses or shots too well, spilled a heap - if only we followed him up for them!
Yeah he normally very safe with those sort of balls. Just a bad night for all of us involved.

What wasn't 8 enough now ur just getting greedy lol

[Reds Forever]

Just curious what are people's thoughts on what makes a good coach in this grade. My thoughts are that a good coach needs to have the following:

Man management - able to communicate effectively and get the best out of players.
Recruitment - able to draw players to his club to improve squad.
Tactical nous - identify weaknesses and strengths and make changes.

What are others strengths that people think a coach needs. Would be curious to know people's thoughts.

[Swanky]

Looks like its a day to buy the form guide for tomorrow as there won't be many if any games go ahead

[namwob99]

Just curious what are people's thoughts on what makes a good coach in this grade. My thoughts are that a good coach needs to have the following:

Man management - able to communicate effectively and get the best out of players.
Recruitment - able to draw players to his club to improve squad.
Tactical nous - identify weaknesses and strengths and make changes.

What are others strengths that people think a coach needs. Would be curious to know people's thoughts.

Coaching certificates. 😉

[Robbery]

Merewether vs tenambit has been called off for tomorrow.

[newie4eva]

Medowie v Jesmond off as Yulong Oval is closed.

Medowie's website is still saying field open but it hasn't been updated.

This from their club facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Medowiefc

Medowie Football Club 9 minutes ago via mobile
Yulong Oval is closed all weekend due to the wet weather. Have a safe school holidays!
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[true waterboy]

Ding dong is the ground dead?

[thephenom]

Anyone know if charlestown oval is out tomorrow? ( sunday ) it only says today on the sportingpulse site.

[Swanky]

Olympic v Westlakes is off
Rugby League have demolished Connolly Park

[Cabaye#4]

Anyone know if charlestown oval is out tomorrow? ( sunday ) it only says today on the sportingpulse site.

Ground is closed all weekend, so games are off.
Could you make sure all your boys know? Obviously dont want anyone making the trip thinking it might be on.
Cheers

[TXK]

Ground is closed all weekend, so games are off.
Could you make sure all your boys know? Obviously dont want anyone making the trip thinking it might be on.
Cheers

Nothing on the wet weather hotline yet mate? I've tried emailing your club secretary but no answer yet... Just want to confirm with someone so my lads can plan they're weekends as some were thinking of heading down tonight and such... Have you got your coaches number I can call?

[TXK]

All good Cabaye, secretary got back to me and confirmed. Thanks for the heads up mate, we appreciate it!!!

[The Dreaded Keeper]

So which clubs have started planning their end of season trip? Mussy's planning is well underway. TBH, I think half the reason three quarters of the squad sign up for is the EOST.

The Eagle doing the planning was once banned from our major sponsors venue, for jokingly lobbing a full schooner at his best mate's head. Should be a BEAUTY!!!!!!

[pv4]

So which clubs have started planning their end of season trip? Mussy's planning is well underway. TBH, I think half the reason three quarters of the squad sign up for is the EOST.

The Eagle doing the planning was once banned from our major sponsors venue, for jokingly lobbing a full schooner at his best mate's head. Should be a BEAUTY!!!!!!

The Widcats basically have a recurring booking each year at the same place. Always goes down as an awesome weekend away. The dude who always organises it does it so easily that it works out that all the boys deciding/arguing about what theme to dress up as becomes the only real headache in organisation

[thephenom]

Its basically the only reason I still play... lol very keen to get away with the lads. I think there should be a function at the end of each season with all the clubs attending. Would be some memorable moments for sure.

[thephenom]

Thanks mate!

[sharky21]

I have just been informed the Tenambit V Mussy game has been called of for sat. and apparently being moved to Sunday. If weather stays the same as it has all week SUNNY.

[Jesmond_sweeper]

Just a heads up to the westlakes lads, we checked on ram park this arvo and it is ok, moist in some spots but we will be playing as long as the refs don't say any different.

[sharky21]

I have just been informed the Tenambit V Mussy game has been called of for sat. and apparently being moved to Sunday. If weather stays the same as it has all week SUNNY.
Iv had more info on the grounds and its apparently looking doubtful for Sunday as well, a call will be made at 2 on sat. All the so called drainage work done at the start of the season has done nothing if not make it worse. I can't remember the last time we trained there. it would have to be 3 weeks minimum.

[TXK]

Iv had more info on the grounds and its apparently looking doubtful for Sunday as well, a call will be made at 2 on sat. All the so called drainage work done at the start of the season has done nothing if not make it worse. I can't remember the last time we trained there. it would have to be 3 weeks minimum.

I spoke to your secretary yesterday afternoon and he said there were a couple of bad spots on the pitch still but they were going to give it every opportunity to try and play. He said he'd give me a call at the time you mentioned. Hopefully it goes ahead as by the sounds of it you guys already have a few midweek games on the horizon and the last thing either team would want is a congested fixture list at the back end of the season. We are just keen to get it played, want to get back out on the pitch after missing last weekend! I'm sure we'll hear more this afternoon, and fingers crossed we will be seeing tomorrow Sharky!!!

[sharky21]

I spoke to your secretary yesterday afternoon and he said there were a couple of bad spots on the pitch still but they were going to give it every opportunity to try and play. He said he'd give me a call at the time you mentioned. Hopefully it goes ahead as by the sounds of it you guys already have a few midweek games on the horizon and the last thing either team would want is a congested fixture list at the back end of the season. We are just keen to get it played, want to get back out on the pitch after missing last weekend! I'm sure we'll hear more this afternoon, and fingers crossed we will be seeing tomorrow Sharky!!!
We are keen as to get this played Already got merewether away next Wednesday then Olympic away the Monday after. And our record with getting catch up games played on first attempt is terrible just ask the boys from westlakes and even when the weather was good it was nearly off due to our crappy lights that were fixed the week before to only go out again the night of the game. Luckly they got fixed so we could play well unlucky for us as we got pumped. lol
Hopefully the powers that be let us play tho.

[pv4]

Attn: jesmond

Go back to Heaton. Jesmond park has to be the worst ground in town.

[pv4]

Note: I wrote that before the refs were assessing the ground. And my comment stands

[Ram Raider]

Sorry PV4 (aka Twat). Forgot you guys were used to your luscious surface.

Can we ground share with you guys next year?

[true waterboy]

Pretty poor that the jeso v cat game was off. Looked like everyone was keen bar the ref.
bit muddy but nowhere near as bad as our game against mereweather.

Jeso needs to move back to Heaton.

[pv4]

Sorry PV4 (aka Twat). Forgot you guys were used to your luscious surface.

Can we ground share with you guys next year?

Firstly, ball not the man.

Secondly, we ground share with our juniors already (edit: oh, and cricket in summer), you guys should try it at heaton.

Thirdly, 75% of the ground was slush and required metal studs, while the middle was rock hard and deathly to wear metals, or any boots at all.

I put it to clubs that any ground with a cricket pitch actually in the field of play should be deemed too dangerous to play on. Seems ridiculous that advance and jesmond arm wrestle over a field that has one tbh

[Swanky]

Charlestown v Olympic
Res 0-4
1st 3-5

[Shayne]

Charlestown v Olympic
Res 4-0
1st 3-5

Fixed.

[Shayne]

Firstly, ball not the man.

Secondly, we ground share with our juniors already, you guys should try it at heaton.

Thirdly, 75% of the ground was slush and required metal studs, while the middle was rock hard and deathly to wear metals, or any boots at all.

I put it to clubs that any ground with a cricket pitch actually in the field of play should be deemed too dangerous to play on. Seems ridiculous that advance and jesmond arm wrestle over a field that has one tbh

Charlies cricket pitch isn't too bad, better this year than last. It actually has (some) patches of grass on it :)

Shame about the pitch getting a couple nasty bobbles in it, bound to happen on a pitch with some ridiculous number of teams playing on it each week..

[sharky21]

Tenambit V Mussy off and won't be played Sunday either. Another mid week game and not what either team would have wanted but the powers that be deemed it unfit for play. If it was up to me id say play but I am a goalkeeper who enjoys the muddy conditions lol

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Sharky!!!! I can't believe you like muddy conditions. I like warm conditions-23 or so degrees, cloudless but with the sun nowhere near the flanks and a wind level of absolute zero!!!! Lol.

[Robbery]

Uni vs Merewether
Res: 7-1 I was told
Firsts: 1-2. Both teams had a fair few good chances but most missed the target. One early goal to each team and a winner with 8 to go finally got us some much needed points.

[Jesmond_sweeper]

Tenambit V Mussy off and won't be played Sunday either. Another mid week game and not what either team would have wanted but the powers that be deemed it unfit for play. If it was up to me id say play but I am a goalkeeper who enjoys the muddy conditions lol

You guys need to move to heaton park also. That's where the id2 comp will be played out of next year. Teams are really rallying for it!!!

[pv4]

You guys need to move to heaton park also. That's where the id2 comp will be played out of next year. Teams are really rallying for it!!!

Maybe if Tenambit had played at Heaton previously, Tenambits juniors were based out of Heaton, Heaton was actually closer to Tenambits sponsor than their current ground, Tenambits current ground had a cricket pitch in the field of play that made it dangerous to play on, Tenambit trained at Heaton and not at their current ground, and when Tenambit were asked if the game could be moved to Heaton the first response was "no we refuse to play there, we only won 3 games there last season" - maybe then teams would be rallying for Tenambit to move to Heaton.

#justsayin

[Jesmond_sweeper]

Maybe if Tenambit had played at Heaton previously, Tenambits juniors were based out of Heaton, Heaton was actually closer to Tenambits sponsor than their current ground, Tenambits current ground had a cricket pitch in the field of play that made it dangerous to play on, Tenambit trained at Heaton and not at their current ground, and when Tenambit were asked if the game could be moved to Heaton the first response was "no we refuse to play there, we only won 3 games there last season" - maybe then teams would be rallying for Tenambit to move to Heaton.

#justsayin

My old man played against jesmond back in the 70's in the old 2nd division at ram park and when we went back into Id's 10 or so years ago it was at ram park, we never had anything to do with our juniors previously until we moved down to heaton, sponsor is maybe an extra 100 metres away (is a guess as I don't have the time to go measure it), at a guess more then 50% of grounds in newcastle have a cricket pitch on them and being tackled on the pitch introduces you to manhood, why would we give up our right to host our "home game" at our "home ground"? (Which we love because of reasons I don't expect anyone to care about?
#just sayin.

[true waterboy]

I dont see the whole point of not moving the game to heaton. game was called off just as both teams were starting to warm up. jesmond seemed to be pretty divided when the ref said he would be happy to move the game to heaton or another local venue. Some of the older guys were pretty outraged at their younger team mates that were happy to play elsewhere.

Why is it such a heated topic for jesmond? Last year we had to move our last home game to morriset due to junior finals, not the ideal but at least we got to have a game.

probs works out good for us tho considering we only had 5 regular first graders available :gent:

[grub]

As for the ref who called off the game on the weekend i hope he doesnt train at jesmond park tonight alongside the other refs as the ground is still very spongey. The refs train ( yes believe it or not they do train ) mondays and wednesdays at jesmond park and dont care if the ground is soft, they train straight up the guts and in the 18's. No respect for the surface.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

In summary - we felt we were doing the right thing by trying to get the game on as felt the ground was far from dangerous. Most that took the time to inspect the ground agreed that game could have been played but ref disagreed. If we'd had called it ourselves there would have been a massive conspiracy theory.

I can't comment on the referee approaching us about changing the venue because wasn't there, arrived slightly after the decision was made but I can say categorically that a change in ground was suggested the day we were to play Olympic and the referee said the ground cannot be changed at such late notice. Same time frames as Saturday. Who knows though...?? End of day our home ground is now Jesmond Park, not Heaton and we don't expect you to love either of them, actually our preference is that you dread coming to play for whatever reason. We do with going out there and to Mussy.

Moving forward - Have people forgotten that another chapter in the 2012 forum keyboard rivalry between Olympic and Westlakes gets played out tonight on the pitch at Connolly Park? This could be an absolute cracker!

Massive game for both clubs, Westlakes especially with their well-known priority being promotion. Still feel at their best they are a quality side and deserve respect as 2012 major premiers. They will be well rested but Olympic have momentum from their good win over Charlestown where they showed exactly why they have both scored and conceded so many. Could go outright 3rd, bypassing Westlakes and will be on their way to securing a semi final spot. Hope I can get there.

[pv4]

I was one person who inspected the ground (before the refs had) and thought it was in too poor a condition to be played tbh. I even posted on here before the refs had made it to the field-side of the fence that the ground was terrible. There was wet mud slush on most parts of the ground, there were what looked like car and motorbike tracks ridden into the mud through the field. There were so many patches where there was just no grass - whether it be due to mud or that rock hard cement-like cricket pitch that was going on. The ball wouldn't have even rolled over some of the mud patches, and everyone would have slipped over without metal studs (and probably would have still) but then would have felt like they were ice-skating on and around the cricket pitch when they run on that hard bit.

It doesn't matter one bit where people have played at previously - whether it be hard bastards from the 70s or fresh IDs players from the 2000s. What matters is the ground is safe and suitable to play on. How Jesmond Park holds up after wet weather should be the biggest indicator to anyone, bias or not, that the ground is not suitable for a winter football competition.

Sweeper - probably the main reason you'd "give up your home game" is because you can't actually play on your home ground, as seen on Sat when they called it off. Just a thought there. And if, as Jesmond players said on Sat, you guys train on Heaton - wouldn't that feel like "home" too? Maybe even moreso? I'm sure there's good reasons for you guys being attached emotionally to the field. You've probably had some great summer cricket games there, or some nice picnics in the rose gardens, had a throw of disc golf, or maybe even managed to get weeks of sunny weather and played some football there. Players aren't dreading going to the ground because Jesmond are useful there (I'm not sure how they go there tbh) - they're dreading going there because they're scared they're going to break their legs and be out of work for weeks/months.

I can hardly believe that out of every 2 grounds you visit, one of them has a cricket pitch situated in the field of play. Most clubs that have a cricket pitch on their field have wised up and located the field of play off the cricket pitch.

What I don't get about all of this is Jesmond knew the ground was holding up poorly on Friday night, and didn't even attempt or think about relocating. The suggestion of Heaton on Saturday when the refs were walking around took everyone by surprise, it seems.

In summary - Jesmond Park is an awful ground and winter football teams shouldn't be allowed to use it, particularly when that cricket pitch hardens up. The ground is worse than Cahill Oval where Phoenix play - and that's saying something!

Grub - let's hope none of the refs training at Jesmond Park find their manhood and/or break their legs on that cricket pitch, the shortage of refs is bad enough as-is!

[mrpewterschmidt]

hey hey woah, let's not start saying things we don't mean here.. no senior ground is worse than Cahill

[sharky21]

You guys need to move to heaton park also. That's where the id2 comp will be played out of next year. Teams are really rallying for it!!!
I am actually trying to get our remaining two home games moved to the pub and we have boat races with schooners for first and middies for res to see who gets the 3 points. ( Il be putting my hand up to do both grades that night).

Now on a less serious note can anyone tell the chances of the Wednesday night game between Merewether and Tenambit at Jesmond getting played?

[Robbery]

Given the forecast of some rain tomorrow and Wednesday one would think it is looking a bit dicey but way too early to make any sort of call yet. Hopefully the refs won't make it any worse anyway......

[sharky21]

Given the forecast of some rain tomorrow and Wednesday one would think it is looking a bit dicey but way too early to make any sort of call yet. Hopefully the refs won't make it any worse anyway......
The amount of running during games iv seen some refs do I'm not too worried they going to do much damage. haha

[outsider]

As for the ref who called off the game on the weekend i hope he doesnt train at jesmond park tonight alongside the other refs as the ground is still very spongey. The refs train ( yes believe it or not they do train ) mondays and wednesdays at jesmond park and dont care if the ground is soft, they train straight up the guts and in the 18's. No respect for the surface.

Wont be training at Jesmond this week since most of our referees will be out refereeing up to 4 nights to enable you all to catch up with your washout games.Referees only train when Jesmond Park is available but it seems to get called out by the council or club a lot of the time due to wet weather.

[pv4]

Olympic v westlakes

Both grades draws. Firsts 4-4. Olympic celebrating wildly for a draw at home against a weaker than half strength side. Entertaining game to say the least

[Beppe]

[QUOTE=pv4;43351]Olympic v westlakes

Both grades draws. Firsts 4-4. Olympic celebrating wildly for a draw at home against a weaker than half strength side. Entertaining game to say the least[/

Pv4, why is it after every game u don't win, you have to make a point of mentioning either poor referring or u weren't at full strength?

[pv4]

I mention those things when we win too. I call it how I see it

[dingdong]

Olympic v westlakes

Both grades draws. Firsts 4-4. Olympic celebrating wildly for a draw at home against a weaker than half strength side. Entertaining game to say the least

making excuses like a school girl again I see. anyway great game especially to come back from 2 goals down. but on the other hand it seems we should be disappointed to only draw against a 'weaker than half strength side'. what were you at only 30% ? 25%?

[true waterboy]

in ressies 1-1
probably a fair result and was a competitive game. hamilton had the better chances tho. made it difficult for firsts when our striker playing first grade came on with 10 to go and gets a straight red in the final 10 seconds of the game.

firsts 4-4
once again score probably sums up the game pretty well. good effort for 3 of our backs playing basically two full games.
fair bit of controversy in the game. second cats goal disallowed due to offside, and the linesman later said he got it wrong looking at the wrong player.
then cats got a favourable call to later go up by a penalty. I thought it was pretty harsh even if it was the correct call. funny hearing the hamo coach pleading with the linesman saying it wasnt handball while pointing at his upper arm. 2 people were then sent from their bench.
red card for the stand in captain calling the ref a cheat.
and then cats give away a dumb penalty to even the score in the final minute.

all this made for a very entertaining match to watch. sounded like the jeso guys that were watching loved it also lol.

[pv4]

making excuses like a school girl again I see. anyway great game especially to come back from 2 goals down. but on the other hand it seems we should be disappointed to only draw against a 'weaker than half strength side'. what were you at only 30% ? 25%?

Well if you're asking I'll give you the variables and you can quantify how you see fit.

- 4 first graders who were fit and fresh
- 3 first graders who came to the game to watch only due to being so injured and high on painkillers, and only played due to lack of numbers
- 4 (inc gk) players who played reserve grade (edit: two of which were normally first graders)
- 1 starting first grader sent off in the last minute of reserves so couldn't play, we won't let him live it down easily :rof:

Btw out of purely curiositiy, but feel free to name call about it - did your #4 receive a second yellow? The supporter-side linesman said he did, but the ref didn't give a red

EDIT: btw we're not making excuses. We were really happy with our huge effort with limited players. We just found it funny that we were noticeably weak and Olympic went wild at the end of the game :rof:

[dingdong]

Well if you're asking I'll give you the variables and you can quantify how you see fit.

- 4 first graders who were fit and fresh
- 3 first graders who came to the game to watch only due to being so injured and high on painkillers, and only played due to lack of numbers
- 4 (inc gk) players who played reserve grade (edit: two of which were normally first graders)
- 1 starting first grader sent off in the last minute of reserves so couldn't play, we won't let him live it down easily :rof:

Btw out of purely curiositiy, but feel free to name call about it - did your #4 receive a second yellow? The supporter-side linesman said he did, but the ref didn't give a red

EDIT: btw we're not making excuses. We were really happy with our huge effort with limited players. We just found it funny that we were noticeably weak and Olympic went wild at the end of the game :rof:

ah standard westlakes hahaha. How were we to know you blokes were so utterly depleted? I apologise for the celebrations, we thought it was a staunch effort from our boys who played 2 games in 3 days and we were 2 goals down. we all play with injuries, so your 3 who ended up playing "so injured and high on the painkillers" couldnt of been that sore if they r running around for 90 mins. Anyway it was good game and very entertaining and both teams had chances to win so draw probably a fair result. The ref yet again made a couple of joker decisions. Disallowed a westlakes goal that i thought was fair from where i was but the linesman called it for offside. Then gave westlakes a pen when our defender hit the ball with his shoulder. But this football and just added to the excitement. good times yewwww

The linesman got mixed up with number 4 and 40, that was our number 4s 1st yellow.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

A game that unsurprisingly had everything at Connolly Park. A real coach killer! My view on a couple of issues of importance, some mentioned above, some not.

The refereeing overall was pretty decent I thought. Yes, the Westlakes headed non-goal seemed legit with a good finish getting in front of his marker. Mistake that the far linesman apparently has put his hand up for. The linesman flagging for handball on the near side that resulted in the Westlakes penalty was a correct decision. The player in question didn't say a lot, with the coach on several occasions arguing "but it hit him on the arm". I'll leave it at that.

It was pretty easy to determine Westlakes were understrength, especially if blokes had backed up as we're hearing. There was a bloke in their backline who appeared totally out of his depth, however if he was one of the players who'd backed up then fair play to him. Others looked lethargic and the usual passing was not there for most parts. Olympic had injuries too, most notable their captain on one leg and played out of position which actually further exposed him.

If you'd turned up on full time then you'd have sworn Olympic had won. Could be seen as a tad over the top but you cannot deny it was a gutsy effort to equalise with 10 men (although they must surely be used to playing a man down) and coming away with a point when it seemed as though they'd get nothing. Needs to be noted that a few within seemed a little embarrassed at how others were celebrating.

On another note - the Olympic striker needs to be watched as is lightning, direct and can play. It's all good being quick but if you're useless then your better of on the wing in league. That bloke is quality for this division and relishes running at tired players late in a game - just ask Charlestown, Westlakes and definitely Merewether presumably amongst others. Their defence though is shambolic at best having conceded almost 30. Lucky they can score!

There was a period in the second half when I think the scores were tied that Olympic had their foot on the throat of Westlakes, hitting the woodwork and missing a few chances. If we hadn't noticed, their bench was insistent on telling anyone that would listen how dominant they were. Moments later a ball came across their own 6 yard box only for the wide Westlakes player to miss an empty net with minimal pressure. Funny enough we couldn't hear a murmur then haha

Play of the day must have been Big Dunc, obviously straight from the PS3, hitting the R1 button and rolling the last two Olympic defenders in one go who had committed to the ball coming into his feet. He then took a touch and toe poked past the 'keeper from outside the 18, catching him a little by surprise I think. The linesman laughed at appeals for offside and rightly so. Probably summarises the game in that one play actually.

For the defensive disaster that this game was, it's done nothing to dent my opinion of how dangerous Westlakes are, especially if they were that understrength. Don't be discarding Olympic either, there are a few really good players in that side and if can make a few changes and sort out defence then not only could they make the semis, but they could threaten once there.

A perfect night for neutrals who made the trip, certainly our contingent from Jeso who wanted a draw. "A 4-4 draw with Olympic red card" was even tipped! Thanks for the show, couldn't buy that entertainment. Well done both clubs.

[true waterboy]

It was pretty easy to determine Westlakes were understrength, especially if blokes had backed up as we're hearing. There was a bloke in their backline who appeared totally out of his depth, however if he was one of the players who'd backed up then fair play to him. Others looked lethargic and the usual passing was not there for most parts. Olympic had injuries too, most notable their captain on one leg and played out of position which actually further exposed him.

yeah im pretty sure i know who you mean. came on after 20 min when our CB went off injured. Not only did he play a full game before in midfeild, it was also his debut in first grade so was a massive effort from him. Our lanky CB and CM also had a full game before hand. It was clear that the boys hadnt played much together with some pretty poor marking leading to some easy goals off set peices but was a good effort all round.

Was also great to see big dunc back, only played 4 games before last night and has a bad injury so huge effort from him.

[pv4]

Funniest part of the night had to be the Westlakes penalty from the Olympic handball

Olympic coach - "Dougy (linesman), where did the ball hit him for the pen?"
Dougy - "his arm!" (and holds his bicep, just above his elbow)
Olympic coach - "Yeah, his arm!" (and holds the same spot on his own arm)
Dougy - "Yes, there! Which is why I called handball!"
Olympic coach - "For fxxxs sake Dougy, every fxxxing week" (then proceeds to act like the world is against him).

Anyone not supporting Olympic had a good laugh

[dingdong]

u blokes r gold for this forum

[true waterboy]

u blokes r gold for this forum

How many times did U change this quote
I kept refreshing the page and it was completely different. I'm sure I counted at least 4. Gotto make your mind up :gent:

[dingdong]

I hope u play 1st grade regularly because u certainly gee us up

[dingdong]

keen for the forum hey?

[true waterboy]

keen for the forum hey?
Visiting someone at the hospital so gotto keep myself entertained somehow lol

[dingdong]

Visiting someone at the hospital so gotto keep myself entertained somehow lol

I can understand that!

[outsider]

Funniest part of the night had to be the Westlakes penalty from the Olympic handball

Olympic coach - "Dougy (linesman), where did the ball hit him for the pen?"
Dougy - "his arm!" (and holds his bicep, just above his elbow)
Olympic coach - "Yeah, his arm!" (and holds the same spot on his own arm)
Dougy - "Yes, there! Which is why I called handball!"
Olympic coach - "For fxxxs sake Dougy, every fxxxing week" (then proceeds to act like the world is against him).

Anyone not supporting Olympic had a good laugh

So what part of handling the ball does he not understand

[dingdong]

maybe he got mixed up? certainly was cold at carro.

[dingdong]

and anyway it was a rough call, big bad dougie from 30m on sidelines has called it when not 1 Westlakes player appealed. dougie was just keen to get involved I think

[true waterboy]

It was one of those decisions that even tho it was the correct call its harsh.
Coaches arguement was pretty funny tho

[true waterboy]

Actually thinking bak on it he had a few other funny moments. His domination dance was quiet good. After a missed shot he came over to our bench and made some call about them dominating while making sword gestures.
You should tell him to take up the tango with those moves

[sharky21]

Anyone from Merewether know if the game is going ahead tonight?Had a heap of rain over at tenambit.

[Robbery]

Just spoke with one of your guys and the game is off. Rain yesterday and overnight has stuffed the field again unfortunately. Continues the wash out curse....

[sharky21]

Cheers mate just got word from him. my idea of moving games to the pub is starting to look like a good idea haha

[TXK]

Just spoke with one of your guys and the game is off. Rain yesterday and overnight has stuffed the field again unfortunately. Continues the wash out curse....

How are we looking for Saturday then? Surely there has to be a point where there is no option but getting the games played...

[TXK]

Cheers mate just got word from him. my idea of moving games to the pub is starting to look like a good idea haha

Starting to look a great idea!

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Anyone from Medowie on here that can give us an idea on how your pitch is?

[true waterboy]

Hoping someone maybe outsider can answer this for me.

If a player is sent for calling the ref a cheat is this classed as offensive language to the official (1 match) or unsporting conduct towards an official (4 match), as they are both classified as R6. also when is the line drawn between the two.

PS not hating on the player from the other night, i was looking at the suspensions online for our own player and thought it was odd that the same red card classification (r6) had two different mandatory suspensions.

[newie4eva]

Anyone from Medowie on here that can give us an idea on how your pitch is?


The park is currently closed.

The park had been closed for training over the school holidays, re-opened Monday and then re-closed Tuesday (by Committee ) after some rain, more in an effort to try protect it for the weekend. It usually holds up well and hasn't been played on since 22/06/2013 so would think it would take a bit of rain to keep it closed.

A little bit of rain forecast out here for tomorrow but suppose to be fine Friday and Saturday. Hope that helps :-)

[The Dreaded Keeper]

Unsportsmanlike conduct toward an official. From personal experience.

[Swanky]

The codes are merely reasons you could be sent off for. The suspensions come from the send off report the referee sends in regarding the reasons he sent the player off and how the player behaves after the send off. This report is checked over by judiciary who give the relevant suspension

[pv4]

The codes are merely reasons you could be sent off for. The suspensions come from the send off report the referee sends in regarding the reasons he sent the player off and how the player behaves after the send off. This report is checked over by judiciary who give the relevant suspension

So won't be looking too good for the Olympic guy from Monday night then :gent:

[dingdong]

So won't be looking too good for the Olympic guy from Monday night then :gent:

the ref actually thanked our player for approaching him after the game and apologizing for his swearing. he said it showed that he accepted he did something wrong.

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Attn Westlakes. Hi guys - aware there is another avenue for this and will explore that tomorrow (dont have number) but wanted to get in touch with you perhaps before your training. Russell Henry informed me today that there needs to be an effort to re-schedule the fixture within a fortnight of its original date.
Are you able to make next Monday or Tuesday? Origin is Wednesday, Merewether are playing Thursday and Friday would be putting both clubs at a disadvantage heading into next weekends games.....
Thoughts?

[true waterboy]

Attn Westlakes. Hi guys - aware there is another avenue for this and will explore that tomorrow (dont have number) but wanted to get in touch with you perhaps before your training. Russell Henry informed me today that there needs to be an effort to re-schedule the fixture within a fortnight of its original date.
Are you able to make next Monday or Tuesday? Origin is Wednesday, Merewether are playing Thursday and Friday would be putting both clubs at a disadvantage heading into next weekends games.....
Thoughts?

We are training tomorrow this week and ill put it forward then.
Are u the one organising it, I'll pm u my number and ill sort it out on our end if you would like

[Shayne]

the ref actually thanked our player for approaching him after the game and apologizing for his swearing. he said it showed that he accepted he did something wrong.

I would hope the two that were sent for the same thing(Swearing at and/or calling the ref a cheat) in reserves against charlie did the same thing. Whether it be the right call or not, is no excuse to abuse a ref.

And people wonder why we rarely get refs to games and if we do the standard isn't great. Who's going to stick around and get abused if you make a call a player doesn't agree with.

[Robbery]

Merewether vs Muswellbrook tomorrow off due to the ground still being way too wet.

[true waterboy]

Merewether vs Muswellbrook tomorrow off due to the ground still being way too wet.

the way its going id say all games will be moved to heaton :gent:

[TXK]

Merewether vs Muswellbrook tomorrow off due to the ground still being way too wet.

Offered to move it to Mussy on either saturday or sunday this weekend but won't come. Surely that would be a better option then having another week off followed by the bye, but apparently not. Games should be played at this stage with the amount of catch ups around already, ridiculous to add another when you could have come up here and got it done, I refuse to take "not being able to organise a bus in time" as a suitable excuse, we car pool down to Newcastle every second week if it doesnt get washed out!

[pv4]

Offered to move it to Mussy on either saturday or sunday this weekend but won't come. Surely that would be a better option then having another week off followed by the bye, but apparently not. Games should be played at this stage with the amount of catch ups around already, ridiculous to add another when you could have come up here and got it done, I refuse to take "not being able to organise a bus in time" as a suitable excuse, we car pool down to Newcastle every second week if it doesnt get washed out!

Cool your jets dude. Jesmond Park is a great ground in this competition for reasons you'll just never understand






















:gent:

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

TXK - the idea of a last minute drive to Mussy wouldn't appeal to many, especially at the prospect at having half dozen put past you so think such a request might have been a tad optimistic. Sure, everyone realises you make the trip for every away fixture but that's your choice. Thats not a shot at you by any means, it's just other clubs don't embrace the trip like we do at Jesmond. We actually look forward to it and the wives dread our "enthusiasm". Not sure if Merewether would be the same and know clubs like Olympic went way under strength with several of the unavailable players being available either side of the game.
Although the big day away from Jesmond Park does have a few of us on edge because we really do love that ground and a full day away is such a long time and anything could happen to it really. Sometimes we all just stand around it, sinking stubbies and admiring it for all its beauty. Although occasionally if the day gets out of hand and beer gets spilt it inevitably means the ground is out of action for quite some time. Thanks to you PV4 for "waking up and smelling the roses" on the topic. Yes pun fully intended. Remarkable things sometimes happen at Jesmond Park, honest. Other forum posters may vouch for that....

[Jesmond_sweeper]

You're right, games should be played but the refs say otherwise like the other week at our ground when it was playable, no doubt others have their opinions but I would play on concrete if they would let me. Just a thought though overseas games are played in horrid conditions sometimes. They bring the shovels out at half time to clear the snow so you can see the lines. I get that these players are payed ridiculous sums of money to play but in turn are worth millions in revenue to these clubs, however are worth bugger all if they are sidelined injured due to playing in some of the conditions they do at the league cup grounds in the rain or snow yet they play. Again I get it they are paid to do it but surely the business side of things should come into play but it doesn't. They play, yet we get on here and carry on like absolute busted arses when a ground in kick and giggle comp isn't quiet up to standards, a bit slushy or has a dreaded cricket pitch in the middle. Some peoples gooses are so cooked on here, if you don't like the conditions, field or worried about getting injured and can't work blah blah blah then don't play. Simple.unlike the lads overseas you ain't being paid to play. Rant over, I've gotta get ready to kick someone from meadowie up the spinkter!!!

[true waterboy]

I can see why they didnt want to play at mussy, one being the oppositions home ground and two being such a long drive to organise at the last minute.
we offered our ground last week against jeso and they declined and tbh id of done the same.
Still am confused as to why they dont look to have heaton avaliable in the case of rain, its a few 100 meters down the road, often free and means your day isnt ruined turning up to the venue and it gets called off. As you said TXK at least u get to have a game even if it isnt ur favourite home ground.

[Jesmond_sweeper]

I can see why they didnt want to play at mussy, one being the oppositions home ground and two being such a long drive to organise at the last minute.
we offered our ground last week against jeso and they declined and tbh id of done the same.
Still am confused as to why they dont look to have heaton avaliable in the case of rain, its a few 100 meters down the road, often free and means your day isnt ruined turning up to the venue and it gets called off. As you said TXK at least u get to have a game even if it isnt ur favourite home ground.

Last Saturday did you know if heaton was playable? Plus there is too many yam yams on the ground, we get distracted trying to dig up a feed!

[true waterboy]

I didnt check out heaton, however when the question was asked a few jeso players were keen to check it out (a few seemed confident it was fine) until one player had a braveheart mel gibson like speech saying this is our home ground we shall not move the game etc.

all im saying is that it seems that jesmond park has been the ground that is constantly called off due to wet weather and has to be shared between two clubs making catch up games more difficult, why not run the clubs so that either can use heaton in the event of rain. As fair as i can see heaton would of been dry enough to be used last week and if it were avaliable probs dry enough for mereweather this week (although they dont train there).
imagine if it were mussy last week drive two hours, game called off and players refuse to check out the ground, they would of been fuming.

might be a bit bias tho cause i do like a yam yam feed :gent:

[Jesmond_sweeper]

I didnt check out heaton, however when the question was asked a few jeso players were keen to check it out (a few seemed confident it was fine) until one player had a braveheart mel gibson like speech saying this is our home ground we shall not move the game etc.

all im saying is that it seems that jesmond park has been the ground that is constantly called off due to wet weather and has to be shared between two clubs making catch up games more difficult, why not run the clubs so that either can use heaton in the event of rain. As fair as i can see heaton would of been dry enough to be used last week and if it were avaliable probs dry enough for mereweather this week (although they dont train there).
imagine if it were mussy last week drive two hours, game called off and players refuse to check out the ground, they would of been fuming.

might be a bit bias tho cause i do like a yam yam feed :gent:

Just got word heaton lines weren't even marked and grass/yam yams was long. When I went there in the morning to get the gear to mark the lines at ram park we got the ute bogged, wasn't on the ground obviously but was very wet! And we me who gave that speech, was more of making a point that home grounds are called such for a reason. No doubt u being the bloke you appear to be on here will have an opinion which will be the opposite.

[true waterboy]

I've already agreed that home games are as such which can be seen in my posts above, I just Beleive more can be done to have games played so that teams don't have to drive bak home or so that a team like mussy doesn't have to drive 2 hours each way on midweek after work.
My point is that you guys have something that no other club has which is a reserve ground, yet you don't seem to use it to your advantage. If I was jesmond or mereweather I'd work together so that if jesmond park is wet, Heaton is in a position to hold the game so that a game can be played and guys don't have to organise a day off work for a mid week catch up.

I can't see the issue with anything I've raised.

[true waterboy]

For example last year Macquarie took our ground off us for one round so we had to move our game to morriset so the game could be played on the weekend and bellbird didn't have to travel midweek

[The Dreaded Keeper]

By the team we play our next game, it will have been about a month since we were on the field. Eats balls. Some teams may even catch us with tired legs, seeing as game time is priceless in regard to match fitness. A month. Balls.

Spanking Westlakes at their home ground feels so long ago...........

[true waterboy]

did anyone actually get to play this weekend?

[ramsbelong@jesmondpark]

Neither team played in a while but Jesmond taking nothing home from Medowie with 2-1 then 3-1 losses. Reggies woeful game that I can only comment on half of. We are now facing uphill battle for top four.

Firsts. 0-1 down when got exposed at the back on the counter, 1-1 on stroke of h/t with a perfect cross headed home. Second half saw a long range range free kick appear to get a deflection then a sub got their 3rd late on with almost his first touch - header into top corner that was either very fortunate or clinical. At that stage we had 10 men.

Onto the send off, deserved for ill discipline. Didn't need our player confronted on way off by Medowie sideline experts. Push and shove then ensued between many which culminated in a fight between Medowie player and their own fans. Apparently getting into that fight only warranted a yellow. Nice touch a couple of first graders actually apologising for their fans. That apology is all that needs to be said on the men and women in question.

Touching back to referee. Tad whistle happy but fair and no complaints. Touchy good too. Unofficial linesman clueless but not to blame. No wingeing either on personnel as had only one of top 15 unavailable.

Couldn't get our game going and that together with some defensive errors this is what happens. Well done Medowie.

[TXK]

Neither team played in a while but Jesmond taking nothing home from Medowie with 2-1 then 3-1 losses. Reggies woeful game that I can only comment on half of. We are now facing uphill battle for top four.

Firsts. 0-1 down when got exposed at the back on the counter, 1-1 on stroke of h/t with a perfect cross headed home. Second half saw a long range range free kick appear to get a deflection then a sub got their 3rd late on with almost his first touch - header into top corner that was either very fortunate or clinical. At that stage we had 10 men.

Onto the send off, deserved for ill discipline. Didn't need our player confronted on way off by Medowie sideline experts. Push and shove then ensued between many which culminated in a fight between Medowie player and their own fans. Apparently getting into that fight only warranted a yellow. Nice touch a couple of first graders actually apologising for their fans. That apology is all that needs to be said on the men and women in question.

Touching back to referee. Tad whistle happy but fair and no complaints. Touchy good too. Unofficial linesman clueless but not to blame. No wingeing either on personnel as had only one of top 15 unavailable.

Couldn't get our game going and that together with some defensive errors this is what happens. Well done Medowie.

I said after our 2-2 draw at Medowie earlier in the season that I don't believe Medowie are a very strong team, but they play a style of football that doesn't allow the better teams to get any rhythm and the trigger happy resident referee doesn't help this either. That coupled with a handy striker with a decent bit of pace, a physical presence and a decent finish and I always expected more teams to lose points up there. Their fans really make themselves known as well, we had a similar incident which resulted in one of their fans coming on the pitch to confront our keeper tinny in hand and all, whilst the ground official stood and laughed about it. All was forgiven at the end of the game but when they shouted our keeper a beer, he had and absolute blinder that day. After being 2-0 down at half time but and bringing it back to 2-2 we definitely counted that as a point gained not two lost and were happy to get back to the brook and not need to go back to Medowie again. It's a hard place to go and take points and credit to Medowie for making it that way. Will see how they are on the travel but.

[sharky21]

Tenambit are away to Olympic tonight in a brought forward game from the upcoming weekend.
I must admit I am pretty keen to get on the park (last game was a midweek game at home to westlakes which seems soo long ago and Saturday was our first onfield training session in over a month close to two) even tho I may be in for a tough night in goals as when we last played our res was done 6-1. But really looking forward to the challenge.

[Swanky]

Tenambit are away to Olympic tonight in a brought forward game from the upcoming weekend.
I must admit I am pretty keen to get on the park (last game was a midweek game at home to westlakes which seems soo long ago and Saturday was our first onfield training session in over a month close to two) even tho I may be in for a tough night in goals as when we last played our res was done 6-1. But really looking forward to the challenge.

Game is definitely on hopefully we get a little rain to soften the wicket up a little

[sharky21]

Game is definitely on hopefully we get a little rain to soften the wicket up a little
Great to hear.
I'm sure that would please the out field boys but as long as the goal mouths are soft I'm happy haha

[sharky21]

Olympic V Tenambit
Res
1-0 Olympic
First
5-2 Olympic.

[dingdong]

Olympic vs Tenambit
res 1-0

1st 5-2

cheers to the Tenambit boys for a good night of football

[sharky21]

Olympic vs Tenambit
res 1-0

1st 5-2

cheers to the Tenambit boys for a good night of football

Two good competitive games played in good spirit (some usual in game heat but nothing over the top) with what I would say the best group of refs iv had all year (and I dnt say that litely).

[sharky21]

Agreed they were good games. Dougie made a bad decision with the last man being brought down in the second half but that is just standard for the gnome.
If I'm thinking of the same decision u are. That was a free kick aagainst me just out side the box. There will be differing opinions as there always are but there was no intention from me to tale him out I was running back to try and cover and when he cut across in front of me we got collided as would be the case in a situation like that. If I was shown a yellow I would have been annoyed but accepted it. But there wasn't much I could do to avoid the collision. But that's what u get when u put the res keeper on the field . lol

[sharky21]

You must not really watch football to much do you? The player is running towards goal it happens in international football all the time you deserved a red. It wasn't a malicious challenge but at the bare minimum you deserved a yellow if indeed you weren't the last man.
As I said I would have accepted a yellow . And I wasn't blowing up about the foul in the game either. And if I was last man I would have had to accept the red if given but I think there was my cb inside me who was last man prob saving the ref from making that call. Il be telling my coach from now on if I'm ever back on the park its up front or Il just stay in goals.

[pv4]

Firstly, you should change your username to something less confrontational.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure fifa law does not use the words "last man" anywhere. If I'm correct, it states that a player will be red carded for conceding a free kick or penalty when the opposition was running towards goal and was denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

Thirdly, it's all about context and bias in the end. You'll probably stay on sharkies case about this incident (I didn't see it btw), but I'm sure no one in the world could convince you that when westlakes played olympic on the night game there was a "last-man" challenge by olympic that deserved a red and wasnt given. So just keep it real homey

And finally - don't attack people or refs for their physical appearance. Very uncool and they can't exactly change that

[roundballsarebetter]

Firstly, you should change your username to something less confrontational.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure fifa law does not use the words "last man" anywhere. If I'm correct, it states that a player will be red carded for conceding a free kick or penalty when the opposition was running towards goal and was denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

Thirdly, it's all about context and bias in the end. You'll probably stay on sharkies case about this incident (I didn't see it btw), but I'm sure no one in the world could convince you that when westlakes played olympic on the night game there was a "last-man" challenge by olympic that deserved a red and wasnt given. So just keep it real homey

And finally - don't attack people or refs for their physical appearance. Very uncool and they can't exactly change that

Why does it not suprise me that this muppet is representing olympic

[GJ23]

Calm down everybody..😊

[GJ23]

Ps: I represent Hamilton.

[true waterboy]

The mighty return of gj

How's it going buddy?

[GJ23]

The mighty return of gj

How's it going buddy?

I'm good thanks mate, how are you?

[true waterboy]

I'm good thanks mate, how are you?

Good to hear mate
I'm loving life

[GJ23]

Good to hear mate
I'm loving life

That's great.
Are you guys playing this weekend? 😊

[pv4]

:rof:

[TXK]

A few interesting convo's going around in the other zone threads about "all-star" (for want of a better word) style teams from each division playing each other. I don't think it would ever happen but I think it could be pretty interesting on paper. I'm going to throw a possile squad out there, would be interested in knowing others opinions. Some selections may seem a little biased and I'm sure others will disagree, but again it's my humble opinion and would be interested to see who others would select.

GK: Botts (Muswellbrook), Steely (Hamilton)
CB: Jake? (Jesmond, tall centre back with the goatee), Macca (Westlake's infamously slow CB :rof:), Dely (Mussy #5, adds some pace to the back line)
RWB: Gareth Bale (University, they know who he is)
CDM: Tags (Charlestown Captain), Little Guy playing holding midfield for Uni against us until he got injured 20 mins in (no idea what his name is but he looked bloody tidy!)
CM: Law (Jesmond)
LWB: Redhead (Medowie's Captain)
ST: Big Dunc (Westlakes), Hamilton's #21 *** Would genuinely love to see these two paired together ***

Bench:
Tenambit's Captain or Hamilton's Captain (both were quality mid's and looked neat on the ball when playing against Mussy)
Jesmond's short CB
Fingers (Westlakes)
Kaney (Mussy striker #9)
Hidey (Jesmond Striker)

Attempted to get one from each team in there to represent the whole league, haven't played against Merewether yet so can't comment on them at all. Don't know many of the names either but had crack at describing them.

Anyone else keen to throw a team out there?

[Itsmuz]

A few interesting convo's going around in the other zone threads about "all-star" (for want of a better word) style teams from each division playing each other. I don't think it would ever happen but I think it could be pretty interesting on paper. I'm going to throw a possile squad out there, would be interested in knowing others opinions. Some selections may seem a little biased and I'm sure others will disagree, but again it's my humble opinion and would be interested to see who others would select.

GK: Botts (Muswellbrook), Steely (Hamilton)
CB: Jake? (Jesmond, tall centre back with the goatee), Macca (Westlake's infamously slow CB :rof:), Dely (Mussy #5, adds some pace to the back line)
RWB: Gareth Bale (University, they know who he is)
CDM: Tags (Charlestown Captain), Little Guy playing holding midfield for Uni against us until he got injured 20 mins in (no idea what his name is but he looked bloody tidy!)
CM: Law (Jesmond)
LWB: Redhead (Medowie's Captain)
ST: Big Dunc (Westlakes), Hamilton's #21 *** Would genuinely love to see these two paired together ***

Bench:
Tenambit's Captain or Hamilton's Captain (both were quality mid's and looked neat on the ball when playing against Mussy)
Jesmond's short CB
Fingers (Westlakes)
Kaney (Mussy striker #9)
Hidey (Jesmond Striker)

Attempted to get one from each team in there to represent the whole league, haven't played against Merewether yet so can't comment on them at all. Don't know many of the names either but had crack at describing them.

Anyone else keen to throw a team out there?

The "little uni guy" is Mitch. Lightning quick and can jump like a black man.
"Gareth Bale" could only be Robbie I'm assuming? (self-administered monicker too, that one) Plays as more of a attacking RW though than a RWB usually yeah? Or at least he should!

Looks fair enough, how about doing one of these for ressies too? They're fairly under-represented on here...

[true waterboy]

I'm not sure who I'd select for an entire team but people that deserve to be there for mine are
21 hamo
Wide winger (I think left?) for mereweather
Tommy mussy
And from westlakes macca n dunc

They are my standouts

[TXK]

The "little uni guy" is Mitch. Lightning quick and can jump like a black man.
"Gareth Bale" could only be Robbie I'm assuming? (self-administered monicker too, that one) Plays as more of a attacking RW though than a RWB usually yeah? Or at least he should!

Looks fair enough, how about doing one of these for ressies too? They're fairly under-represented on here...

Mitch is so silky on the ball, I felt bad after our collision on a corner when he went off straight after. Yeah it is Robbie, I was giving him a hell of a time about it the whole game, he even has the sweat bands, same haircut, took a couple of sneaky dives and wore the same boots for christs sake! I think in a 3-5-2 with his athletic abilities and knack for getting past people out wide he could play a decent wingback, would definitely have to work a bit harder defensively but is really good getting forward up that flank.

I'm not sure on ressies, I have only seen the first half of each game as I've been getting ready for firsts in the second and most of the time Mussy is getting beaten so I haven't been in the best of moods. Uni, Hamo and Westlakes are my stand outs sprinkled with a couple of Jeso players. Might have to think a bit more about that one and then put up a ressies team....

[pv4]

The allstars concept would be WAY too hard to fairly decide and then execute. We don't get to see the other teams enough, there's an understandably high level of bias, and it's just hard in general.

Eg: if you were to give me the job of selecting the zl2 allstars I'd just start with westlakes squad, and work my way around each position thinking of people from other teams I considered better. And I'd probably end up with more than half the squad being westlakes players. It'd be difficult even choosing the westlakes guys. If I were to pick the best 5 players in westlakes, if everyone was available, two of my top five in my own club wouldn't even make first grade due to continual injuries, work commitments missing training, or jusy happy in reserves. One of those two i consider to be the best player in our whole club, but hasnt played firsts in a few years due to the above reasons (it's dj for anyone who knows our club).

The only players outside of westlakes that have even remotely stood out to me is Olympics striker, a couple of mussy boys, and not much else tbh. I'm sure people from other clubs have equally as biased views as me, and hence why it is so difficult to make a squad.

[true waterboy]

totally agree with pv4 assessment. hence why my list is only 5 players long and are pretty much the stand outs imo.

[sharky21]

A few interesting convo's going around in the other zone threads about "all-star" (for want of a better word) style teams from each division playing each other. I don't think it would ever happen but I think it could be pretty interesting on paper. I'm going to throw a possile squad out there, would be interested in knowing others opinions. Some selections may seem a little biased and I'm sure others will disagree, but again it's my humble opinion and would be interested to see who others would select.

GK: Botts (Muswellbrook), Steely (Hamilton)
CB: Jake? (Jesmond, tall centre back with the goatee), Macca (Westlake's infamously slow CB :rof:), Dely (Mussy #5, adds some pace to the back line)
RWB: Gareth Bale (University, they know who he is)
CDM: Tags (Charlestown Captain), Little Guy playing holding midfield for Uni against us until he got injured 20 mins in (no idea what his name is but he looked bloody tidy!)
CM: Law (Jesmond)
LWB: Redhead (Medowie's Captain)
ST: Big Dunc (Westlakes), Hamilton's #21 *** Would genuinely love to see these two paired together ***

Bench:
Tenambit's Captain or Hamilton's Captain (both were quality mid's and looked neat on the ball when playing against Mussy)
Jesmond's short CB
Fingers (Westlakes)
Kaney (Mussy striker #9)
Hidey (Jesmond Striker)

Attempted to get one from each team in there to represent the whole league, haven't played against Merewether yet so can't comment on them at all. Don't know many of the names either but had crack at describing them.

Anyone else keen to throw a team out there?

Surely the team coming dead last would have to more greatly represented lol.
But seriously there would be atleast two guys from Tenambit who fit into this squad easily our captain as u have already mentioned is a quality player and one of our cb who u would not have seen as he was injured for the game against u guys. But he is also a quality player and can score a mean volley too just ask jesmond lol.
Il be interested to see if any one does a res squad tho. i would but my memory is terrible and i dnt pay enough attention during a game to do it justice.

[true waterboy]

westlakes medowie
res 0-0

firsts 2-6 (i thinks maybe 5?)
big effort from our ressies players, had 8 regular first grade players out and another went off after 15 minutes. I think if u added the first grade experience of our back 4 today u would be lucky to make 10 games between them and a few played ressies beforehand.
westlakes were up 2-0 so big effort from medowie to come back. Ive said it before that they are the most improved club in this comp and their two main guys up front were class today.
medoewie first goal they had 3 guys 3 meters offside but we literally didnt have enough players to run the line lol.

[SK15]

Hey everyone,

I don't know all the players in the comp but a few who stand out are:

Hamilton:
Lukas (Captain, #9)
Paul (Razzler, #21)
Clint (Keeper)

Westlakes:
Big striker (Don't know his name)

Don't really know anybody else.