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Vandenberg13
31-12-2012, 11:27 AM
New Year.

First Clean sheet of the season

you heard it here first

plague
31-12-2012, 12:10 PM
Lose.
Everyone to say awwww shucks and to look forward to 2023 or something.

la bazzle
31-12-2012, 12:11 PM
We've got good engines

pv4
31-12-2012, 12:23 PM
New Year.

First Clean sheet of the season

you heard it here first

will concede in first 8 mins. business as usual for the jerks

380
31-12-2012, 12:27 PM
Mitchell to confuse our strip with the Heart and continually pass it to them. Follow that up with a stupid challenge from him and give away a penalty. Lose 1-0.

Disinterested Bystander
31-12-2012, 03:19 PM
Mitchell to confuse our strip with the Heart and continually pass it to them. Follow that up with a stupid challenge from him and give away a penalty.

Agree, but it will be all GVE' s (and BK's) fault on here.

boz-monaut
31-12-2012, 03:21 PM
Gallaway's fault as well

that bloke is garbage

la bazzle
31-12-2012, 03:32 PM
Gallaway..... Gee whizz get him out

snake
31-12-2012, 03:42 PM
only sydney's limpness can keep us from the spoon

we will loose

steve136
31-12-2012, 05:00 PM
We will dominate the game and lose 2-0. GvE to talk about mobility and possession and how we're getting there.
Brown will play and suck. Zad will be awesome. We'll all start talking about 2016 or whenever it is GvE squad will be "ready".

Pico
31-12-2012, 05:05 PM
Gallaway..... Gee whizz get him out

Off contract and then this, looks to be on the cards to me...





THE exodus of Australia's best young talent from Brisbane Roar continues, with Young Socceroos star Corey Brown understood to have agreed to terms with Newcastle Jets.

The Courier-Mail has learnt Brown, 19 next Monday, is set to link with the Jets when the A-League transfer window opens on January 14.

The departure of Brisbane's left fullback, currently on a full-time youth team deal, comes hot on the heels of fellow teenage defender Jason Geria's move to the Ange Postecoglou-coached Melbourne Victory last month.

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/brisbane-roar-unable-to-stop-young-star-corey-brown-jetting-away/story-fndb5nmd-1226545418993

militiamon
31-12-2012, 05:15 PM
C Brown was part of that U17 World Cup team, yeah? lol

Too bad we don't have the only decent player from that team (Dylan Tombides).

stopper2
31-12-2012, 05:32 PM
Off contract and then this, looks to be on the cards to me...
Corey Brown was at the AIS 2010-11, no surprises as to why we are signing him then.
GVE seems obsessed with signing his boys who were AIS graduates when he was there, we would have to have at least half a dozen by now....Oxborrow, Cooper, Chapman, Taggart??? I know Branko signed him but Gallaway was at the AIS 2008-10 and all of a sudden has become a favourite with GVE also.

GazFish35
31-12-2012, 06:10 PM
Draw

Thomas477
31-12-2012, 07:20 PM
So where does that leave Solid? Or are we going to run a back line of Neville, Chapz, Ritter and this young bloke?

MFKS
31-12-2012, 07:43 PM
Hopefully it will mean Mitchell OUT for GOOD

380
31-12-2012, 08:35 PM
^ Could we be that bloody lucky ?????.

Thomas477
31-12-2012, 09:57 PM
^ Could we be that bloody lucky ?????.

Doubtful, pretty sure Mitchell is on a 2 year contract. Plus he's a Newy boi so the Facebook army would be up in arms if he left.

Plus Tiago's contract is expiring at the end of the season.

MFKS
31-12-2012, 10:02 PM
Doubtful, pretty sure Mitchell is on a 2 year contract. Plus he's a Newy boi so the Facebook army would be up in arms if he left.

Plus Tiago's contract is expiring at the end of the season.

Stick him in Marko Jesic's Luggage when he gets deported. Problem solved.

Mitchell's on a 2 year deal??? FMD That's the dumbest thing HSG have ever done. That includes signing an injured Culina Not resigning Lord Griffo, Handing back the HAL Licence, Sacking the coach on seasons eve etc

The bloke is a deadset hack and all the people on this forum who supported his signing as a positive should be putting their hands up and owning up to their stupidity

Thomas477
31-12-2012, 10:55 PM
Stick him in Marko Jesic's Luggage when he gets deported. Problem solved.

Mitchell's on a 2 year deal??? FMD That's the dumbest thing HSG have ever done. That includes signing an injured Culina Not resigning Lord Griffo, Handing back the HAL Licence, Sacking the coach on seasons eve etc

The bloke is a deadset hack and all the people on this forum who supported his signing as a positive should be putting their hands up and owning up to their stupidity

Aye, but with the good Brown arriving, we'll probably line up as:

Biraz
Neville, Chapz, Solid, C.Brown.

And probably chuck Kanta or Billante on the bench and Mitchell doesn't have a spot unless the bench is increased.

Grimario
01-01-2013, 12:09 AM
Match day bitches, whooooooooooo.

cheflyf
01-01-2013, 12:20 PM
2-0 loss

Tommyjet
01-01-2013, 01:23 PM
Hoping for a either 2-1 win or 2-2 draw. Hard to pick this game since heart are just as inconsistent as us

weston
01-01-2013, 03:26 PM
Lets start the new year off with a something nill win... c'mon boys

Grimario
01-01-2013, 03:36 PM
Ritter out with "a tight hamstring". Gallaway to left back, Neville straight into starting line up.

Otherwise it is the exact same line up and same bench as last time. GvE throwing the swerve of no random changes in as his NY resolution.

weston
01-01-2013, 03:38 PM
Ritter out with "a tight hamstring". Gallaway to left back, Neville straight into starting line up.

Otherwise it is the exact same line up and same bench as last time. GvE throwing the swerve of no random changes in as his NY resolution.

Aloisi has gone the opposite way. 6 changes, Bolton sitting next to him on the bech and Redmayne starting in goals.

Bon
01-01-2013, 03:51 PM
Anyone know a good stream??

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 03:55 PM
Anyone know a good stream??

would be sensational thanks

weston
01-01-2013, 03:57 PM
I dont know where to start looking for streams but i will be trying to record goals and upload them as soon as i can for viewing... best i can do

Bon
01-01-2013, 04:00 PM
I just found one that seems to be ok at http://hitsports.net/stream-1.php

weston
01-01-2013, 04:07 PM
both teams wearing white.... ffs

Bon
01-01-2013, 04:11 PM
Aaaaaaaaand there it is...

OmeletteDuFromage
01-01-2013, 04:12 PM
http://www.oleoletv.com/ have good streams.

Retro Jet
01-01-2013, 04:12 PM
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/161225/1/watch-melbourne-heart-vs-newcastle-jets.html

When fks score against us it always looks TOO easy....
Our defence is PUSS!

dink
01-01-2013, 04:12 PM
will concede in first 8 mins. business as usual for the jerks

Correct

weston
01-01-2013, 04:13 PM
I think i couldv'e marked golgol better from where i am sitting right now.... as soon as they got the ball i thought who the hell was marking him.... Brillante just casually jogging back and Gallaway, well i think he ran away

goaliepersempre
01-01-2013, 04:22 PM
Bloody Galloway.... But come on griff

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 04:23 PM
gallaway out.

goaliepersempre
01-01-2013, 04:23 PM
Yes griff.... But still Galloway ffs

weston
01-01-2013, 04:24 PM
GolGol Goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlSGTYayK20&feature=youtu.be

Griff penalty being uploaded now

pv4
01-01-2013, 04:29 PM
will concede in first 8 mins. business as usual for the jerks

:cool:

sup vandenberg

OmeletteDuFromage
01-01-2013, 04:30 PM
How the hell wasnt that knocked out of his hands? Hes made contact with the keeper after hes had control of the ball.

goaliepersempre
01-01-2013, 04:30 PM
Beath what crap... Foul on keeper first....

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 04:31 PM
hardly a yellow

OmeletteDuFromage
01-01-2013, 04:31 PM
Imagine what Heskey is thinking of the standard of the refs here.

Bon
01-01-2013, 04:31 PM
Un-fvcking-believable..
How was that not a foul on Bira to make him drop it???

pv4
01-01-2013, 04:33 PM
foul on keeper, I thought.

gallaway keeps giving the ball away.

dat pen - bk would have saved it :oops: :gent:

weston
01-01-2013, 04:33 PM
Un-fvcking-believable..
How was that not a foul on Bira to make him drop it???

No idea

goaliepersempre
01-01-2013, 04:35 PM
dat pen - bk would have saved it :oops: :gent:

Trollololol

weston
01-01-2013, 04:36 PM
Griff Pen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzHGjzognE4&feature=youtu.be

EDIT: Sorry about the glare, i have now shut the blind

Rocky
01-01-2013, 04:39 PM
**** this ref right off.

weston
01-01-2013, 04:40 PM
Good to see the stadium is nice and packed........ of chairs

OmeletteDuFromage
01-01-2013, 04:42 PM
Refs view must have been obstructed from the glare off all the green seats.

goaliepersempre
01-01-2013, 04:47 PM
Same old jerks. We are to slow in decision making and effort... Where they out last night?

weston
01-01-2013, 04:48 PM
Tadic Goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szBwvyGmTS0&feature=youtu.be

northern_swan
01-01-2013, 04:49 PM
Beith out
Harper out
Deans out

Seriously the ref is horrible and Harper hasn't said a positive thing about Newcastle since the prick missed those two pens at Breakers stadium.

weston
01-01-2013, 04:51 PM
Good effort Goodwin.... Griffo's overhead before was good aswell

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 04:52 PM
ffs galaway

weston
01-01-2013, 04:53 PM
What the flying goat shit was that foul for??? Gallaway had the right to get up the ref.... ffs.... Beith, who ever you are.... GTFO!!!

la bazzle
01-01-2013, 04:55 PM
Show some discipline gallaway. Having a go at the ref won't make him reverse decision. Wish it was a red

northern_swan
01-01-2013, 04:55 PM
Did I just see GVE approaching the ref in the background as the players went off for oranges?
I'd be giving the prick an earful if I was GVE. Absolutely disgraceful. If I was at the game Beith would be wearing a $6 cup o mid strength shyte :soapbox:

weston
01-01-2013, 04:59 PM
refs a muppett, sounds like bosnich has been ino the coccaine again

weston
01-01-2013, 05:01 PM
GVE into Beith all the way down the tunnell.... best thing the guy has done this season

shagga
01-01-2013, 05:05 PM
Only import in the squad is Heskey? The other 4 not good enough to make the squad? Not good.

la bazzle
01-01-2013, 05:06 PM
Ritters injured

la bazzle
01-01-2013, 05:07 PM
But I agree. Disgrace

northern_swan
01-01-2013, 05:07 PM
GVE into Beith all the way down the tunnell.... best thing the guy has done this season

Absolutely, but the Jets won't get a free kick all half now

weston
01-01-2013, 05:09 PM
Absolutely, but the Jets won't get a free kick all half now

50-50's wont go our way

OmeletteDuFromage
01-01-2013, 05:09 PM
I cant understand a word Viv is saying.

weston
01-01-2013, 05:11 PM
The tosser cant even point the right way

Beeen
01-01-2013, 05:13 PM
so painful to watch

weston
01-01-2013, 05:15 PM
Apparently Beith said that Birighitti dropped it cold..... i can see himself being dropped cold if this continues

northern_swan
01-01-2013, 05:16 PM
"He dropped it cold" fvck off Beith, I reckon half of Newcastle wants to drop YOU cold :banghead:

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:16 PM
will make this prediction - we won't win another game that virgilli starts

belchardo
01-01-2013, 05:16 PM
so glad that GVE was concentrating on bawling out the ref at half time rather than instructing our players on how to defend, pass, cross, attack etc.

weston
01-01-2013, 05:17 PM
so glad that GVE was concentrating on bawling out the ref at half time rather than instructing our players on how to defend, pass, cross, attack etc.

That hasn't worked yet so trying a new option

OmeletteDuFromage
01-01-2013, 05:18 PM
Obviously a penalty to us?

snake
01-01-2013, 05:20 PM
birighiti foul was probably a foul, albeit soft.

still, pissweak effort to drop it like he did. kids should play to the whistle, so biraghit shoulders most of the blame.

weston
01-01-2013, 05:20 PM
Brillante off Pepper on

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 05:20 PM
carn peppz

Beeen
01-01-2013, 05:24 PM
more hate for neville ok go..

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:25 PM
his cross to Heskey was shit. tarek would have done so much better, so would have regan

:gent:

cheflyf
01-01-2013, 05:25 PM
Boring game, wooden spoon looking possible

goaliepersempre
01-01-2013, 05:27 PM
Gallo ways are worse

weston
01-01-2013, 05:28 PM
Zad <3 Heskey <3

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 05:28 PM
where is taggart ffs.
brown is poo :wink:

weston
01-01-2013, 05:29 PM
Griffo off Brown on...... Griffo hasn't been anywhere near as good as last season including this game... but Brown??? really??

Bon
01-01-2013, 05:30 PM
Virgili loses the ball again, and just stands there like a mullet..
Chase it and win it back, you dozey twat!

Rocky
01-01-2013, 05:30 PM
Goodys been quiet 2nd half and Chilli has turned to aids.

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:31 PM
I hate my team having possession, so I'm happy with virgilli in there

:ffs:

weston
01-01-2013, 05:31 PM
Best thing Browns done in his Newcastle career.... kinda looked good than.... still cant get a free kick

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:34 PM
virgilli & gallaway are actively looking for ways to give the ball away. has bridges been giving them private lessons in the mustache hashtag corner-flag school?

they're yet to try the old shot-at-your-own-goal, but it's on it's way.

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:35 PM
virgilli & gallaway are actively looking for ways to give the ball away. has bridges been giving them private lessons in the mustache hashtag corner-flag school?

they're yet to try the old shot-at-your-own-goal, but it's on it's way.

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:36 PM
double post and I dont care

#yolo

weston
01-01-2013, 05:37 PM
If Virgilli was on his toes he would of got that... ffs

cheflyf
01-01-2013, 05:37 PM
Hope we lose 3-1

weston
01-01-2013, 05:38 PM
‎5,461 in attendance today at AAMI park

wow

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:42 PM
can behich walk the ball out of virgillis legs any easier

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 05:50 PM
dutchy to blow up in the press conference

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:50 PM
gallaway & virgilli both on the right side now.

does gve realize that irl you can't just put a shit team out there & simply dial it back from professional to amateur (ala FIFA) and still win?

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:51 PM
gallaway & virgilli both on the right side now.

does gve realize that irl you can't just put a shit team out there & simply dial it back from professional to amateur (ala FIFA) and still win?

Grimario
01-01-2013, 05:51 PM
dutchy to blow up in the press conference

****, I hope so.



Oh, wait, you don't mean that literally

belchardo
01-01-2013, 05:55 PM
crap performance by the ref.

the only thing worse than him today was:

our defence
our attack
our passing
our movement
our ball control
our crossing
many of our haircuts
hayden foxes outfit
GVE's coaching
deans' sitting

god we are ordinary.

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:55 PM
nah it's cool virgilli - keep running. it's not like taking the ball with you is a big deal or anything

belchardo
01-01-2013, 05:56 PM
nah it's cool virgilli - keep running. it's not like taking the ball with you is a big deal or anything

thought he was trying to breakdance.

pv4
01-01-2013, 05:58 PM
rubez, biraz, heskey. the rest are not invited in the fiesta

hawk
01-01-2013, 05:58 PM
Just so i dont offend the optimistic mongs. We are going great.

weston
01-01-2013, 05:58 PM
Zad and Heskey best players.... rest shit

dink
01-01-2013, 05:59 PM
Poo!

The only good thing about that game is Sydney FC are on the bottom of the table.

pv4
01-01-2013, 06:00 PM
lol they interviewed virgilli.

"James, your form in this match most reflects how well your team is going currently. are you excited to see Gary's system in full effect?"

pv4
01-01-2013, 06:02 PM
0 points from 6.

what is that now, 4 from 27?

gve is going great though - should re-sign him

militiamon
01-01-2013, 06:02 PM
will make this prediction - we won't keep a clean sheet while Birighitti starts

hawk
01-01-2013, 06:03 PM
payrise

hawk
01-01-2013, 06:04 PM
will make this prediction - we won't keep a clean sheet while Birighitti starts

http://www.freewebs.com/dfik/Retard.jpg

380
01-01-2013, 06:06 PM
will make this prediction - we won't keep a clean sheet while Birighitti starts


Or GVE remains manager and picking favourites who are shitful

pv4
01-01-2013, 06:08 PM
Gary gtfo

virgilli gtfo

gallaway gtfo

hating on the locals :cool:

pv4
01-01-2013, 06:10 PM
will make this prediction - we won't keep a clean sheet while Birighitti starts

we won't keep a clean sheet regardless of which keeper starts.

hawk
01-01-2013, 06:11 PM
we won't keep a clean sheet regardless of which keeper starts.

:cool:

pv4
01-01-2013, 06:20 PM
that moment when you see mv having Rojas where we have virgilli :oops:

Bec
01-01-2013, 06:22 PM
That was crap,Didn't even look like we wanted to score....That was a foul for birra.....maybe gve shoulda used that blast on the boys at half time

The Dunster
01-01-2013, 06:23 PM
that moment when you see mv having Rojas where we have virgilli :oops:

This just sounds like you bitching about a local player that went further in the game than your sorry arse could take you.

Tommyjet
01-01-2013, 06:32 PM
This just sounds like you bitching about a local player that went further in the game than your sorry arse could take you.

They won't have Rojas for long but we will have virgili for the next 10 years or so

furns
01-01-2013, 06:35 PM
we are terrible but not as bad as Sydney FC #silverlinings

stopper2
01-01-2013, 06:37 PM
Rubes is the workhorse in the middle, he has stepped up in recent weeks with the responsibility of being captain.
I see our biggest problem in the middle is that we have no one to complement him. If you have a workhorse like Rubes you need someone who is going to provide the guile and direction....Brillante does not provide it, nor does Ryan. Brillante goes missing for large chunks of the game while Ryan is a more direct type of player.
Our other big problem is Mitchell, for the position he plays he is just too casual with the ball.
Up until today it never crossed my mind that we might finish with the wooden spoon.....now it has dawned on me that it is a real possibility.

pistolpete
01-01-2013, 06:39 PM
They won't have Rojas for long but we will have virgili for the next 10 years or so
Was thinking the same thing. At least we can be confident we won't lose any of our squad in January

timmy_v
01-01-2013, 06:45 PM
That was un-bear-able

lquiquer
01-01-2013, 06:51 PM
No more ref talk, penalty talk.... Etc.. Please. No excuses any more... Games of football comes down to not much.. Goodwin was so close to score, heskey could have scored... And if they do they would be heroes today. Only problem jets team is a young team with not much experience and GVE should have been more honest about it from the start instead of talking to media and fans as if they were already up there.

militiamon
01-01-2013, 06:53 PM
Rubes is the workhorse in the middle, he has stepped up in recent weeks with the responsibility of being captain.
I see our biggest problem in the middle is that we have no one to complement him. If you have a workhorse like Rubes you need someone who is going to provide the guile and direction....Brillante does not provide it, nor does Ryan. Brillante goes missing for large chunks of the game while Ryan is a more direct type of player.
Our other big problem is Mitchell, for the position he plays he is just too casual with the ball.
Up until today it never crossed my mind that we might finish with the wooden spoon.....now it has dawned on me that it is a real possibility.

Good point. In short, we are missing Jobe big time.

hawk
01-01-2013, 06:55 PM
Up until today it never crossed my mind that we might finish with the wooden spoon.....now it has dawned on me that it is a real possibility.

we've been a bottom 2 team for most of season. Not that we are hopeless but just a goal worse than all other teams. zads:cool:


That was un-bear-able

poor bugger, but it wasnt really a shock was it.

namwob99
01-01-2013, 07:05 PM
This just sounds like you bitching about a local player that went further in the game than your sorry arse could take you.
+1
Especially when they're not even the worst performers out there. It's like a broken ****en record.

Thomas477
01-01-2013, 07:30 PM
Rubes is the workhorse in the middle, he has stepped up in recent weeks with the responsibility of being captain.
I see our biggest problem in the middle is that we have no one to complement him. If you have a workhorse like Rubes you need someone who is going to provide the guile and direction....Brillante does not provide it, nor does Ryan. Brillante goes missing for large chunks of the game while Ryan is a more direct type of player.
Our other big problem is Mitchell, for the position he plays he is just too casual with the ball.
Up until today it never crossed my mind that we might finish with the wooden spoon.....now it has dawned on me that it is a real possibility.

Our problem is RyGriff is a striker/winger, not a midfielder and us relying on him to do so is stupid.

As for the spoon, Sydney is still much worse than us, so we wont end up with it.

And look, I'm not a GvE fan, but we've obviously gone with a young squad to build for the future, this season is just part of that curve. We might as well stick with GvE until next season so we don't have another season of rebuilding.

Superdylan
01-01-2013, 07:30 PM
Nice bear hat by a certain well known squadron member, all the lols

Well kinda expected that shit, our defence is the worst ever in our aleague existence

WolfMan
01-01-2013, 08:04 PM
That was un-bear-able

I see what you did there.

Truth though, woeful display

pv4
01-01-2013, 08:09 PM
This just sounds like you bitching about a local player that went further in the game than your sorry arse could take you.

I actually hate all professional footballers in this respect - that I was learning how to kick a ball the same age they did yet they are now getting paid to do so and I'm not.

but, my hate for virgilli comes from his repeated showings of horrific turnover rates, the fact he never looks on his toes for the big chances, and that he is a clear level below his fellow attacking wingers he plays with & against each week.

we have a legit socceroo on the bench, and virgilli on the field. and virgilli doesn't even have form to warrant said selection.

seldom
01-01-2013, 08:13 PM
Good point. In short, we are missing Jobe big time.

your right we need jobe back and to also push rubes higher in the hole to feed off heskey. I think this is our major downfall, no genuine no.10

380
01-01-2013, 08:17 PM
I thought we recruited a 10 but can't get a run for some frigg'n reason only known to GVE

Tommyjet
01-01-2013, 08:23 PM
I reckon there are a few factors contributing to the easy passage most teams are having into our midfield which is putting rubes and co under too much pressure and please disagree if u want as I'm no expert.
1- our wingers are staying too wide when defending and not picking up when to tuck in more and help out.
2- having Ryan up further and not tracking back often creates loads of space for the opposition mids and often defenders to move into eventually outnumbering rubes and co. Having more of a midfield player in the no.10 role would help or switching formations.
3- if Ryan is basically playing as a striker basically Ruben and co need to step up more rather than sitting more on the defensive line. Personally I think a lack of confidence in the defence is causing the midfield to sit so deep( whether that's a gve inspired thing or not I don't know).

Personally I'd like to see a midfield 3 deployed and if everyone was fit and in form that would be brown..... Wheelhouse ......zadkovich with either wheelhouse or zadkovich sitting and the others free to attack and then get back. Highly unlikely considering how brown has played so far but we definitely need to plug up that midfield and stop the opposition getting forward so easily.

seldom
01-01-2013, 08:24 PM
I thought we recruited a 10 but can't get a run for some frigg'n reason only known to GVE

Your right...not having a go at ribs,actually havent seen enough of him to make a judgement

hawk
01-01-2013, 08:34 PM
We should be able to leave 2 at the front after they play out. 8 is more than enough to defend

RedMexican
01-01-2013, 08:45 PM
We should be able to leave 2 at the front after they play out. 8 is more than enough to defend

2 ?, thats a bit generous dont ya think.
we would be sweet with heskey time playin lone up front, he should be able to hold the ball up long enough for every to catch up.

dink
01-01-2013, 08:47 PM
As for the spoon, Sydney is still much worse than us, so we wont end up with it.

And look, I'm not a GvE fan, but we've obviously gone with a young squad to build for the future, this season is just part of that curve. We might as well stick with GvE until next season so we don't have another season of rebuilding.

The thing is why are we rebuilding? I see players like Topper-Stanley and Brockie doing well for there respective teams when GVE replaced those players with inexperienced young guys who aren't delivering. GVE got rid of a lot of players from last season and replaced them with worse players. These young players will leave before they mature into good footballers anyway and some other team will get the benefit. GVE has taken the Jets in a direction of young guys to build a team for the future, but I see a lot of ex-jets players performing well for other teams and I can't help but think "Gee I wish they still played for the Jets, we might be going ok right now."

And yes I agree Sydney are terrible.

stopper2
01-01-2013, 08:47 PM
I actually hate all professional footballers in this respect - that I was learning how to kick a ball the same age they did yet they are now getting paid to do so and I'm not.

but, my hate for virgilli comes from his repeated showings of horrific turnover rates, the fact he never looks on his toes for the big chances, and that he is a clear level below his fellow attacking wingers he plays with & against each week.

we have a legit socceroo on the bench, and virgilli on the field. and virgilli doesn't even have form to warrant said selection.

You have no idea about the game if you think that Virgili's form doesn't warrant selection.
Virgili was one of our best against Sydney and caused Fabio all sorts of problems, done well against Victory but today I think he met his match against probably the best LB of the HAL in Behich (in the 2nd half anyway).
Rubes and Heskey were the only ones today who can hold their heads up, to single out young Virgili is just poor form pv4!

stopper2
01-01-2013, 08:52 PM
The thing is why are we rebuilding? I see players like Topper-Stanley and Brockie doing well for there respective teams when GVE replaced those players with inexperienced young guys who aren't delivering. GVE got rid of a lot of players from last season and replaced them with worse players. These young players will leave before they mature into good footballers anyway and some other team will get the benefit. GVE has taken the Jets in a direction of young guys to build a team for the future, but I see a lot of ex-jets players performing well for other teams and I can't help but think "Gee I wish they still played for the Jets, we might be going ok right now."

And yes I agree Sydney are terrible.

Topor has gone from unwanted by GVE to arguably the most consistent CB in the HAL and talk of him being selected for Socceroos again (like 2 years ago).
Next time he sees GVE he should shake his hand and thank him!!!

sammydog
01-01-2013, 08:55 PM
The thing is why are we rebuilding? I see players like Topper-Stanley and Brockie doing well for there respective teams when GVE replaced those players with inexperienced young guys who aren't delivering. GVE got rid of a lot of players from last season and replaced them with worse players. These young players will leave before they mature into good footballers anyway and some other team will get the benefit. GVE has taken the Jets in a direction of young guys to build a team for the future, but I see a lot of ex-jets players performing well for other teams and I can't help but think "Gee I wish they still played for the Jets, we might be going ok right now."

The question that should be asked is why are these ex-jets performing now? What was stopping them performing here?

The GVE out thread probably has the answer some are looking for.

I don't mind a youth focus, but there needs to be a balance and GVE has for some reason only known to him locked out some seemingly good players (Ribeiro, Bridges, Regan, Tiago) in preference for inexperienced youth. The youth aren't getting results (I think some aren't close to performing and others are just plain inconsistent, great one week shite the next) so i can't understand why these other players aren't getting a look in.

la bazzle
01-01-2013, 09:08 PM
I'm so sick of this bullshit need time to develop, rebuilding, give youth a chance fuking bullshit. We pay and go to see our team win. Plain and simple. I couldn't give a single **** if we develop 20,000 amazing young players that end up being awesome in 5 years at some other club. Just get a team capable of winning a game and atleast making top 6 of a ten team ****ing competition

MFKS
01-01-2013, 09:19 PM
I'm so sick of this bullshit need time to develop, rebuilding, give youth a chance fuking bullshit. We pay and go to see our team win. Plain and simple. I couldn't give a single **** if we develop 20,000 amazing young players that end up being awesome in 5 years at some other club. Just get a team capable of winning a game and atleast making top 6 of a ten team ****ing competition

Considering we went out and removed most of our squad from last year and replaced them with a pile of kids and novices at this level why is it that you are expecting something other than a developmental season giving Youth a go??

Glad to see the whole short term thinking mentality of our fans is to the fore again. :rolleyes:

Can one of you who wishes to carry on this way please enlighten me as to what it is with our pre season signings that convinced you we would be dominating the HAL this season??? All I recall was a whole heap of blokes who have barely played at HAL level, a HACK in Josh Mitchell, Heskeytime and a couple of other unknown foreigners.

Signings down this line are obviously longer term thinking rather than this season.

Thomas477
01-01-2013, 09:24 PM
The thing is why are we rebuilding? I see players like Topper-Stanley and Brockie doing well for there respective teams when GVE replaced those players with inexperienced young guys who aren't delivering. GVE got rid of a lot of players from last season and replaced them with worse players. These young players will leave before they mature into good footballers anyway and some other team will get the benefit. GVE has taken the Jets in a direction of young guys to build a team for the future, but I see a lot of ex-jets players performing well for other teams and I can't help but think "Gee I wish they still played for the Jets, we might be going ok right now."

And yes I agree Sydney are terrible.

Why are we rebuilding? Because the last few years haven't been good.

Yes they have been performing well, and credit to them for that. But GvE didn't think Topor would fit in with the style of play. It's all well and good to have a great #10 like Rogic or van der Vaart (for example), but if you play a real physical game and long balls, and that's how you want to play, what's the point in having the #10?

As for Brockie, my impressions of him leaving was that after the great run early on, he had a very high opinion of himself and what he should be paid and GvE didn't believe he was worth that amount. So it wasn't a case of GvE not wanting Brockie, it was he priced himself out of our range. No point in paying a bloke 20% of the cap if he's not performing at least 100% consistently and Brockie was very sporadic in his goals.

I agree, many of the former Jets running about I would love to have seen us keep, like Dura, Thomo, Culina, Tim Brown (when he was playing) etc. Funny thing is though, the grass always seems greener and we all remember the great things they do for their new clubs, but we rarely remember how honking they could be at times for us. But there's no point living in the past, we need to move on and the youngsters are the future. Hopefully given we've got them young, the team will bond and become great mates and want to win a championship or two before they leave. However it is inevitable that they will go overseas because that is the A-League, and it will always be so until, if and when, we become as prestigious as the EPL and La Liga (ie never going to happen).

lquiquer
01-01-2013, 09:38 PM
I'm so sick of this bullshit need time to develop, rebuilding, give youth a chance fuking bullshit. We pay and go to see our team win. Plain and simple. I couldn't give a single **** if we develop 20,000 amazing young players that end up being awesome in 5 years at some other club. Just get a team capable of winning a game and atleast making top 6 of a ten team ****ing competition

I'm with you on that one La Bazzle.....wouldn't surprise me if Goodwin, Chapman, Kanto...... plays in Europe in a very near future (Or Dubai, or K league...etc)...and GVE starts again and again and again......and we keep finishing 7th

The Dunster
01-01-2013, 09:39 PM
If we had a plan and were genuinely buildng for the future I could tolerate not challenging for a championship this season.

Unfortunately, There is no consistent plan. GVE chops and changes tactics and players week in week out trying to somehow stumble upon some random formula to success.

It didn't work in V4 and it is certainly not working now.

This talk of the future / long-term is a load of shit. GVE has no vision beyond what he needs to say each week to keep himself in a job.

Long term we will lose the good players to other clubs and the players that stay will stay simply because no other club wants them.

If developing players is so important to GVE then why doesn't he go back to the AIS ?

pv4
01-01-2013, 09:39 PM
You have no idea about the game if you think that Virgili's form doesn't warrant selection.
Virgili was one of our best against Sydney and caused Fabio all sorts of problems, done well against Victory but today I think he met his match against probably the best LB of the HAL in Behich (in the 2nd half anyway).
Rubes and Heskey were the only ones today who can hold their heads up, to single out young Virgili is just poor form pv4!

it probably is poor form. I should feel as bad as anyone on the Foz who has ever bagged tiago for a mis-pass, Mitchell for continued inconsistencies, Neville for some bad crosses, biraz for rushing his line, rubez for losing the ball after winning it, Goodwin for not dealing with the media, Heskey for not having labis chest, griffo for not being as good as Joel, etc - all in the middle of us being completely shit

lquiquer
01-01-2013, 09:42 PM
I'd trade Mitchell for Topor anytime

MFKS
01-01-2013, 09:45 PM
I'd trade Mitchell for Topor anytime
We did and look at how well that has worked out for us!!

Topor prospect of Socceroo call up due to great form.
Mitchell gives the ball away 3 times a game, can't mark up, can't tackle, can't play, Costs us at least 1.5 goals a game he is out there

Yet you still want Mitchell?? FMD :bs:

lquiquer
01-01-2013, 09:48 PM
We did and look at how well that has worked out for us!!

Topor prospect of Socceroo call up due to great form.
Mitchell gives the ball away 3 times a game, can't mark up, can't tackle, can't play, Costs us at least 1.5 goals a game he is out there

Yet you still want Mitchell?? FMD :bs:

Sorry didn't express myself correctly....I meant I would welcome Topor back and get rid of Mitchell

The Dunster
01-01-2013, 09:49 PM
I'd trade Mitchell for Topor anytime

NTS was probably on more than twice what the club pays Mitchell. If NTS was on Mitchells wage, then GVE would possibly have Kept NTS and perhaps not expected as much from him.

dink
01-01-2013, 09:51 PM
Why are we rebuilding? Because the last few years haven't been good.

And it looks like its not going to get better.

You make good points I'm just so frustrated after today's game watching young kids make simple mistakes, i.e. Chapman passing the ball into the middle of the park being intercepted and then they run away and score a goal. Then you watch Wanderers and T-S is winning then clearing balls, even setting up Onos first goal and you can't help but think, gee if only T-S was playing for us today.

Your right we have to move on and support these young kids and hope they improve. Lets hope GVE's vision comes to fruition and we win the comp within the next couple of years, but I just don't see that happening. Our record in keeping players (and coaches) is terrible and I feel GVE will run away like he did last time when things don't work out for him and his young guns and were back to square one again. New coach comes in (hopefully better then this one) clears the decks and its rebuilding time again. While other clubs build on their squads we have a different team every season. Its given me the shites to be honest.

lquiquer
01-01-2013, 09:54 PM
I'd trade Mitchell for Topor anytime

I meant ged rid of Mitchell and wellcome back Topor

MFKS
01-01-2013, 10:00 PM
NTS was probably on more than twice what the club pays Mitchell. If NTS was on Mitchells wage, then GVE would possibly have Kept NTS and perhaps not expected as much from him.

Even if Mitchell is on a quarter of Topor's wages we shouldn't have to tolerate the extra 6 times the amount of errors Mitchell makes. Reality with it is MITCHELL is a shithouse signing of biblical proportions and GVE needs to **** him off ASAP.

The only thing I can think of is Mitchell must have some quite incriminating evidence of the Egg in a bad light that the Egg doesn't want to see the light of day that got Mitchell a contract and keeps him getting picked when form/ability don't warrant it.

When you have removed all other options this is the only logical thing left

hawk
01-01-2013, 10:15 PM
Considering we went out and removed most of our squad from last year and replaced them with a pile of kids and novices at this level why is it that you are expecting something other than a developmental season giving Youth a go??

Glad to see the whole short term thinking mentality of our fans is to the fore again. :rolleyes:

Can one of you who wishes to carry on this way please enlighten me as to what it is with our pre season signings that convinced you we would be dominating the HAL this season??? All I recall was a whole heap of blokes who have barely played at HAL level, a HACK in Josh Mitchell, Heskeytime and a couple of other unknown foreigners.

Signings down this line are obviously longer term thinking rather than this season.

Pity hal teams have a high player turnover. And for the kids, our good ones will get onsold and the ones who dont cut it get dumped, then what? At least with topor etal we had a chance

380
01-01-2013, 10:19 PM
So just how long should GVE be given ?

Raw Boned Youngster
01-01-2013, 10:22 PM
I'm sure a part of the business plan was to develop young players an d sell them over seas. We will probably always be in a rebuilding phase as we try to make some folding out of our players and our club's shop window.
The morale in this team must be at an all time low. egghead is so tactically inept that his players must find it hard to listen to his 'vision' and he appears to be emotionally a basket case. Not sure if I can recall him making any players better, but he seems to make a lot nervous. the refereeing was perfect for Egghead today- yet again he has someone to blame and deflect from the real issue- his poorly prepared and structured football team.

Cisco
01-01-2013, 10:26 PM
He should be sacked immediately,got rid of NTS and he is being seen as a Socceroo again,got rid of Brockie tonight scored his 10th goal in 9 games !!!!.Great call GVE .He sits on the sideline looking like a rabbit stunned in the headlights,no idea what to do.

380
01-01-2013, 10:40 PM
[QUOTE=MFKS;22214]Considering we went out and removed most of our squad from last year and replaced them with a pile of kids and novices at this level why is it that you are expecting something other than a developmental season giving Youth a go??

Sorry member but this was a conveniently manufactured situation by an under achieving coach.

Either his signings or his style just aren't cutting it.

Buddha
02-01-2013, 01:13 AM
i really hope josh mitchell got the message when he was walking across to us. hopefully he hates us enough to leave, kent

seldom
02-01-2013, 01:16 AM
aaahhhh...so we're rebuilding yet again, so don't expect results yet WSW can throw a team together in a couple of weeks with a large % of rejects and get results...surely questions have to be asked.

pv4
02-01-2013, 08:18 AM
i checked my facts, and i'm sorry for getting a stat wrong yesterday. we are currently 4 points from 24, or 7 points from 27. not 4 points from 27 like i said yesterday.

gve does not deserve the bagging everyone has been giving him, his record is not quite as bad as thought.

:ffs:

Vandenberg13
02-01-2013, 09:24 AM
:cool:

sup vandenberg

shut ya mouth :D

Nelson Bay Road
02-01-2013, 09:37 AM
Chris beath is the new Breeze...
Didnt get much from him..

we were poor, virgili was very poor IMO, turned the ball over 99% of the time
Rubez was immense, like he is the only player in midfield at times..
Adelaide, brisbane and mariners in the next 3 games... 4 points from 33 at this rate...

plague
02-01-2013, 10:07 AM
Ok so who is getting the money that we refused to offer Topor and are we getting value for money from them?

Bird in the hand etc etc etc

stopper2
02-01-2013, 01:23 PM
aaahhhh...so we're rebuilding yet again, so don't expect results yet WSW can throw a team together in a couple of weeks with a large % of rejects and get results...surely questions have to be asked.
I'm thinking the same thing.
I'm not buying into this crap anymore of "rebuilding". What it does it say about Popovic/Milicic when they can build a team from scratch and in the first season not only be competitive but become title contenders??? They had a plan to become a force straight away and had the experience and knowledge to know what players to bring in to play WINNING FOOTBALL. The attack has taken a little longer to gel but the defence has been strong from day 1.
Last year it was Branko's team, this year we are rebuilding. How about GVE is just not a good enough coach for this level....I think he fundamentally does not know what type of players you need in order to win games.

timmy_v
02-01-2013, 01:24 PM
We didn't refuse topor, he wanted to leave and signed with WSW for the same money just a longer deal. He wanted to move closer back to home etc...

The blokes we refused the money to were tarek and brockie.

When the season is over, a bit of cash will be free'd up with players like Jesic moving on etc..

plague
02-01-2013, 01:57 PM
We didn't refuse topor, he wanted to leave and signed with WSW for the same money just a longer deal. He wanted to move closer back to home etc...

The blokes we refused the money to were tarek and brockie.

When the season is over, a bit of cash will be free'd up with players like Jesic moving on etc..


I agreed with the Elrich and Brockie decisions (based on money) but still rate Topor.
If he wanted to go home then I don't think we can bag the club for that one.
Thanks for clearing it up.

Tommyjet
02-01-2013, 03:37 PM
Can see tarek back in nsw premier league within a year or so

The Dunster
02-01-2013, 04:28 PM
Given how much love Gary was showing Topor it's no suprise he wanted to go to WSW. And when you factor in the same money but a longer terms it must have been a very easy decision for him.

The Dunster
02-01-2013, 04:29 PM
Can see tarek back in nsw premier league within a year or so

If he revises his wage claims downwards he'd be a good buy.

Thomas477
02-01-2013, 05:14 PM
I'm thinking the same thing.
I'm not buying into this crap anymore of "rebuilding". What it does it say about Popovic/Milicic when they can build a team from scratch and in the first season not only be competitive but become title contenders??? They had a plan to become a force straight away and had the experience and knowledge to know what players to bring in to play WINNING FOOTBALL. The attack has taken a little longer to gel but the defence has been strong from day 1.
Last year it was Branko's team, this year we are rebuilding. How about GVE is just not a good enough coach for this level....I think he fundamentally does not know what type of players you need in order to win games.

Because they have gone with experienced heads like Covic, Beauchump, da Puzz, Labi, Ono etc. we have the with youth looking to the future, as opposed to short term.

Grimario
02-01-2013, 05:17 PM
Because they have gone with experienced heads like Covic, Beauchump, da Puzz, Labi, Ono etc. we have the with youth looking to the future, as opposed to short term.

Yeah, because all the youth in the world will help us when the entire tactic is KICK UP FIELD TO BIG GUY, RUN FAST. Rebuilding is the GVE BS story for his inability to actually manage a squad.

la bazzle
02-01-2013, 05:19 PM
Can one of you who wishes to carry on this way please enlighten me as to what it is with our pre season signings that convinced you we would be dominating the HAL this season??? All I recall was a whole heap of blokes who have barely played at HAL level, a HACK in Josh Mitchell, Heskeytime and a couple of other unknown foreigners.

Signings down this line are obviously longer term thinking rather than this season.


That's my point. Signings weren't made to win the league this year or next. By that time our decent players will move on. We will start again. Like we do every year. Good times. Why is it unreasonable for people to want to see the jets win? There's no trophy at the end of the year for developing the most players. Last year it was not Gary's squad, this year it's a "development squad", how many fans will stick around year after year until we have just a squad that can win some ****ing football games

la bazzle
02-01-2013, 05:21 PM
Yeah, because all the youth in the world will help us when the entire tactic is KICK UP FIELD TO BIG GUY, RUN FAST. Rebuilding is the GVE BS story for his inability to actually manage a squad.

This.

parksey
02-01-2013, 05:55 PM
Anyone know a good stream??

for next time

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/sport/football.html (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2VEDRWSUIgs/T4j8DA5GKdI/AAAAAAAAAJA/c6HIassuzvQ/s1600/Fine-Art-Garden-Within-Forest-Stream-1b6k3za.jpg)

hawk
02-01-2013, 06:10 PM
for next time

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/sport/football.html (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2VEDRWSUIgs/T4j8DA5GKdI/AAAAAAAAAJA/c6HIassuzvQ/s1600/Fine-Art-Garden-Within-Forest-Stream-1b6k3za.jpg)

my new favourite stream

hawk
02-01-2013, 06:13 PM
He should be sacked immediately,got rid of NTS and he is being seen as a Socceroo again,got rid of Brockie tonight scored his 10th goal in 9 games !!!!.Great call GVE .He sits on the sideline looking like a rabbit stunned in the headlights,no idea what to do.
fair enough that players move on but replacing them needs skill. heskey and goodwin we got right

GazFish35
02-01-2013, 06:19 PM
It could be worse for 99% of jets fans whining about GVE letting players go and replacing them with lesser players.
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You could be aresnal fans too.

OmeletteDuFromage
02-01-2013, 06:56 PM
It could be worse for 99% of jets fans whining about GVE letting players go and replacing them with lesser players.

You could be aresnal fans too.

I am :sigh:

sammydog
02-01-2013, 07:12 PM
Aresnal fans would be used to it.

GazFish35
02-01-2013, 08:02 PM
Oh we are

Tommyjet
02-01-2013, 08:16 PM
We sure are

RedMexican
02-01-2013, 08:48 PM
this will be the year for my team.
said every liverpool supporter

Thomas477
02-01-2013, 09:02 PM
Man Utd fan :blush:

Final day of last season :sigh:

RedMexican
02-01-2013, 09:08 PM
Man Utd fan :blush:

Final day of last season :sigh:

its okay mate, its okay

Jeterpool
02-01-2013, 09:29 PM
this will be the year for my team.
said every liverpool supporter

Sigh
No more

sammydog
02-01-2013, 09:31 PM
this will be the year for my team.
said every liverpool supporter

Haven't said that for a long, long time.

RedMexican
02-01-2013, 10:10 PM
Haven't said that for a long, long time.

neither have i honestly.
seen it on a meme earlier, thought id post it lol

la bazzle
03-01-2013, 07:52 AM
Thread turned gay. Close

pv4
03-01-2013, 08:00 AM
agreed. should come over to the gve out thread, thread has taken a great direction

the_butcher
03-01-2013, 05:14 PM
I'm so sick of this bullshit need time to develop, rebuilding, give youth a chance fuking bullshit. We pay and go to see our team win. Plain and simple. I couldn't give a single **** if we develop 20,000 amazing young players that end up being awesome in 5 years at some other club. Just get a team capable of winning a game and atleast making top 6 of a ten team ****ing competition

Soz labazzle I missed this, close the foz because this sums it all up.