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foti68
17-01-2013, 07:25 PM
I have mail that all past discrepancies with team mates have been sorted out and he is in negotiations with the club.

parksey
17-01-2013, 07:28 PM
Is foti the guy who is always wrong about inside goss or what?

scozzygt
17-01-2013, 07:31 PM
I have mail that all past discrepancies with team mates have been sorted out and he is in negotiations with the club.

:whistling:
:bs:
:deadhorse:

howardyou
17-01-2013, 07:32 PM
Hope not. I would take him back if he is good enough condition. But would GVE? An experienced player who would voice dissent?

Thomas477
17-01-2013, 07:57 PM
And why do we need him? Regz and Chapman have played well, plus with Ritter and Mitchell, we have no need.

Would love to have him back for the lulz though.

belchardo
17-01-2013, 08:06 PM
fairly sure foti was the real deal last time round.

needs a mod to confirm.

Retro Jet
17-01-2013, 08:38 PM
fairly sure foti was the real deal last time round.

needs a mod to confirm.

I'm no mod but I spoke with foti68 just after that Riberio posting he did and I can confirm that his $0urc3 was good.
I did discuss his source with Boz at the time from memory.

I'll SMS him on this one......

belchardo
17-01-2013, 08:40 PM
cheers, could have just said 'someone with a better memory than me' rather than 'a mod'

militiamon
17-01-2013, 08:45 PM
Yes please

sammydog
17-01-2013, 08:46 PM
Ljubo returning would be awesome on and off the pitch.

Questions on his fitness, but I have no doubt he could get that sorted. Just can't see it happening though.

seldom
17-01-2013, 08:50 PM
love the Lube...you better not be shittin foti

380
17-01-2013, 08:51 PM
So long as we have Mitchell we should be right for orange peelers.

Bon
17-01-2013, 08:52 PM
fairly sure foti was the real deal last time round.

needs a mod to confirm.

Yeah I seem to remember Foti being on the money last time around too..

snake
17-01-2013, 08:55 PM
torago's water bottle > ljubo's thitruth treeth

boz-monaut
17-01-2013, 09:02 PM
would almost, but not quite, entirely make up for the Griffo fiasco

sammydog
17-01-2013, 09:07 PM
Ljubo would crush Griffo, bring him back.

Beeen
17-01-2013, 09:12 PM
Is Ljubes still registered on here?

Jetmaster
17-01-2013, 09:23 PM
One training ground argument and Heskey will smack a hundred kinds of shit out of Ljubo...

For the lulz - yes.

Sense says you would be crazy !

q-money
17-01-2013, 09:27 PM
not on new foz sorry pal

militiamon
17-01-2013, 09:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OcvQd.gif

pv4
17-01-2013, 09:39 PM
finally some good fxxxing news

i've been starting to feel less & less in touch with the club recently, and was honestly feeling like gve was turning it into something i didn't recognise with at all.

signing ljubo would be hands down the best thing (arguably only) gve has done in his entire time since returning to the jerks

Rocknerd
17-01-2013, 10:11 PM
Love Ljubo, have been wondering where he's been and what he's been doing. It'll take some big balls to come back and a certain ammount of humility with all that went on when he left.

in saying that I got love for Ljubo like I do Lord Griff!

pv4
17-01-2013, 10:14 PM
I talked to the bloke who runs os Aussies site & he couldn't find anyone who knew what ljubo was up to. even Steve lustica, who went to split with him, had no idea.

I've been told he had a short stint with red star belgrade (where babalj is currently) and was in iran for a bit, but really I don't know any solid details on what he's been up to.

hope he comes back

q-money
17-01-2013, 10:17 PM
iran fmd, can you imagine this bloke in downtown tehran in a vest and pork pie hat, he would look like he had been beamed down from the moon

bring him home

sammydog
17-01-2013, 10:42 PM
There is stuff on the net that confirms a stint at Red Star (no idea how many games he played though), can't find anything in Iran beyond trialling for Sepahan in August. Doesn't say if he got a contract or not.

militiamon
17-01-2013, 10:44 PM
iran fmd, can you imagine this bloke in downtown tehran in a vest and pork pie hat, he would look like he had been beamed down from the moon

:rof:

plague
17-01-2013, 11:27 PM
Him and Stu back home phwoarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

parksey
17-01-2013, 11:55 PM
imagine kingers on a satdy night (y)

parksey
17-01-2013, 11:56 PM
this is what jesic has been waiting for

front2
18-01-2013, 12:20 AM
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Why on Earth would GVE allow Lubes to return to a gun defensive unit that he has personally hand-crafted and spent such a long time developing into the 'two clean-sheet match machine' they are now? This is almost as nerdy as Stuey being the back up insurance to cover a Zads bolt to the blue.

seldom
18-01-2013, 02:03 AM
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Why on Earth would GVE allow Lubes to return to a gun defensive unit that he has personally hand-crafted and spent such a long time developing into the 'two clean-sheet match machine' they are now? This is almost as nerdy as Stuey being the back up insurance to cover a Zads bolt to the blue.

fvckn lol

Jeterpool
18-01-2013, 07:12 AM
Is foti the guy who is always wrong about inside goss or what?

Foti was right about Ribero and was right about Middleby et al being in the UK for an un-named player at the time - ie Heskey.

2/2 so far.

Premy
18-01-2013, 07:48 AM
Even if he doesn't come back to play get him back just to put the megas in his hand

Newieutd
18-01-2013, 09:55 AM
I hate Ljubo - But bring him back after 2 ok games - i have not enough to whinge about...

Bring the kn0bhead back

Newieutd
18-01-2013, 09:58 AM
Hope not. I would take him back if he is good enough condition. But would GVE? An experienced player who would voice dissent?

If Ljubo was on board with GVE thoughts/plans then Ljubo is someone GVE would want!!!

The Dunster
18-01-2013, 01:17 PM
I'd be happy to have Ljubo back. If he's fit we'd be getting a great defender and if he's not quite up to scratch he could assist with the development of the younger players in the squad.


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3425/3276680788_71006cc337.jpg

GazFish35
18-01-2013, 01:27 PM
I hate Ljubo - But bring him back after 2 ok games - i have not enough to whinge about...

Bring the kn0bhead back

You know his name.
He doesn't know yours.

cheflyf
18-01-2013, 01:37 PM
Ljubo ljubo ljubo

Newieutd
18-01-2013, 01:48 PM
You know his name.
He doesn't know yours.

thats what makes a good player

Raw Boned Youngster
18-01-2013, 02:03 PM
I think the current A league is too quick for the the Lubricator - he is quick between the ears but I believe he would get found out. he is also more of a general than a foot soldier and it doesn't appear that Egghead favours these types.
it would give Eggsy someone to blame though- we are probably due for another Newcastle Jest moment. if This is genuinely being talked about as a potential signing, the Jets are more of a basket case than I thought p.ossible. it has to be a gee up surely.

My2BobsWorth
18-01-2013, 04:13 PM
Loobo is a bit too edgy for Garry to have amongst his children, can't see it

belchardo
18-01-2013, 05:35 PM
would be weird if he came back, brown is pretty much a doppelganger for him.

Jeterpool
18-01-2013, 05:49 PM
Loobo is a bit too edgy for Garry to have amongst his children, can't see it

Needs someone to chaperone while on away trips since bridgey is in and out of the squad

scozzygt
18-01-2013, 06:32 PM
:arse:
:arse:
:deadhorse:
Fxck NO!!
:grin:

Tommyjet
18-01-2013, 06:47 PM
When talking about zadkovichs temperament he said he liked a certain level of 'conflict' in his team, maybe he wants some more.

My2BobsWorth
18-01-2013, 06:51 PM
:arse:
:arse:
:deadhorse:
Fxck NO!!
:grin:
That's the one I had money on this arvo

scozzygt
18-01-2013, 07:10 PM
That's the one I had money on this arvo

Send me my commission buddy.
Always happy to help.

Zico
11-02-2013, 09:25 AM
GVE wouldn't handle the 2nd guessing Ljubo would do. GVE see's himself as the dictator and if anybody disagrees then they are shafted.
In saying that I think Ljubo would be a bit on the slow side now as age would have caught him a little.

Jetmaster
11-02-2013, 11:10 AM
It was GVE who first started chasing after Ljubo. That said I can't see it happening.

Jeterpool
11-02-2013, 11:37 AM
Foti been back on to provide an update?

hawk
11-02-2013, 01:51 PM
not enough olive trees and too many skip accents

pv4
13-02-2013, 03:13 PM
come home ljubo

we miss you

scozzygt
13-02-2013, 07:33 PM
not enough olive trees and too many skip accents

:whistling:
He fxxked off like a big sook.
Told us all we are wankers on a mission to oblivion.
Ahh, me cant be bothered .
**** stick.

scozzygt
13-02-2013, 07:36 PM
come home ljubo

we miss you

Awww, fuxxkin get yer strap on ready for him!
:deadhorse:
:banghead:

ljubo milicevic
13-02-2013, 09:24 PM
A bit of the truth...

We all say things in anger and frustration that we don't believe to be true or genuinely mean, I am sorry for what I said, I am sorry that I offended people and this is something that I regret.

Was at Hajduk Split for a year, never got near Red Star Belgrade, both eternal rivals for more reason than just football reasons...aside from that both clubs are steeped in honor and tradition, would be a dream for most kids with balkan heritage to play for either team. Check out you tube clips, the best fans in the world, Torcida!

Iran wasn't good timing, trying to keep it simple, never had the chance to walk down the street with my hat,cape,whips or parrot... it was way too hot for the hat and cape, they confiscated my whips at customs and my parrot decided to stay home! ;)

I have been watching the team from afar sad to see Jobe go, top bloke and great player who was everything Newy, a legend in my eyes. A lot of the boys I hung out with have since left, we shared many good times but football teams are constantly evolving, I'm sure the current crop are building strong bonds and memories that will last them a life time.

ljubo milicevic
13-02-2013, 09:25 PM
I love Newy, the people, the fans and especially the Squadron!

Peace

Lubes

boz-monaut
13-02-2013, 09:28 PM
and we love you Lubes

pv4
13-02-2013, 09:41 PM
come back!!

turn this club back into what you guys made it back in the day!

Muswellbrookian
13-02-2013, 10:21 PM
Best foz posts in years.

Scozz, usually love your work, especially all your rants about Griff and his fancy shades - but Lubes takes the cake. Need him back asap to sort out our miserable defence and get some spark back in the team. Seriously, Gary's army of cardboard cut-out munchkins and their soundbite interviews are about as interesting as reading stock reports or one of Arnie's whinge-fests.

plague
13-02-2013, 10:28 PM
Lubes giving Jobe some dap.
Both club legends. Our joint is a sadder place for them not being here.

I don't want to know what really happened to the parrot either.

sammydog
13-02-2013, 10:52 PM
come back!!

turn this club back into what you guys made it back in the day!

If not to play, at least to get the crowd rocking again.

Always welcome, even if its only to visit.

q-money
13-02-2013, 11:37 PM
holy shit

:cool:

Mitchy
14-02-2013, 12:08 AM
Screen shoted his posts so they will always live in my memory and heart!

Love you lubes! Yeww

furns
14-02-2013, 12:48 AM
thread just instantly gained five star status

belchardo
14-02-2013, 07:17 AM
seriously ljubes, appreciate the apology, restepka.

but you didn't say if you were coming back! :D

EDIT: just checked foti's post, he definitely said coming back to the team, not just returning to the foz :)

Bon
14-02-2013, 08:57 AM
Holy shit.. Did NOT expect to see all this going on..
Love it.. Much respect Ljubes..

lil_masi
14-02-2013, 12:31 PM
Much respect Ljubo

scozzygt
14-02-2013, 07:00 PM
A bit of the truth...

We all say things in anger and frustration that we don't believe to be true or genuinely mean, I am sorry for what I said, I am sorry that I offended people and this is something that I regret.

Was at Hajduk Split for a year, never got near Red Star Belgrade, both eternal rivals for more reason than just football reasons...aside from that both clubs are steeped in honor and tradition, would be a dream for most kids with balkan heritage to play for either team. Check out you tube clips, the best fans in the world, Torcida!

Iran wasn't good timing, trying to keep it simple, never had the chance to walk down the street with my hat,cape,whips or parrot... it was way too hot for the hat and cape, they confiscated my whips at customs and my parrot decided to stay home! ;)

I have been watching the team from afar sad to see Jobe go, top bloke and great player who was everything Newy, a legend in my eyes. A lot of the boys I hung out with have since left, we shared many good times but football teams are constantly evolving, I'm sure the current crop are building strong bonds and memories that will last them a life time.

Fake troll
:sigh:

Beeen
14-02-2013, 07:19 PM
Ljubo in

( . Y . )

::gent::lulzturtle:

boz-monaut
14-02-2013, 08:22 PM
Fake troll
:sigh:it is possible actually

Bon
14-02-2013, 08:38 PM
Fake troll
:sigh:

Wouldn't a fake troll be a double negative?

sammydog
14-02-2013, 09:01 PM
Wouldn't a fake troll be a double negative?

And two negatives make a positive, which means its positive confirmation its the man himself.

ljubo milicevic
15-02-2013, 10:44 AM
Just to clarify, this is not the work of a troll, I am not making a playing return to the jets, get behind them though, they are a young bunch who need your support!

Also make sure you go down to Rad store on Darby St, top blokes and cool threads :)

Peace!

goaliepersempre
15-02-2013, 10:54 AM
ljubesssssssss :)

pv4
15-02-2013, 11:06 AM
are you playing at all, or looking to play?

are you in town/the country, or you're still out & about?

come home. come back & play with us.

380
15-02-2013, 11:23 AM
Sadly for Lubes he knows more about the game than Gary, will have to wait til rd 21 2014 to get a start.

Would be worth the wait though.

Lubes in.

The Dunster
15-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Just to clarify, this is not the work of a troll, I am not making a playing return to the jets, get behind them though, they are a young bunch who need your support!

Also make sure you go down to Rad store on Darby St, top blokes and cool threads :)

Peace!

Hopefully Ljubo will be returning to the club in some capacity, even if it's not as a player. His leadership and experience would be of great value.

Jetmaster
16-02-2013, 09:48 AM
Hopefully Ljubo will be returning to the club in some capacity, even if it's not as a player. His leadership and experience would be of great value.

Take your pic....Squadron Leader or CEO ?

plague
16-02-2013, 11:27 AM
So Lubes re-ignites the Foz and we then play our best football in yonks.

Co-incidence?
You be the judge.

(also epic shout out to RAD. Cal and the boys are good dudes)

scozzygt
17-02-2013, 07:16 PM
Hopefully Ljubo will be returning to the club in some capacity, even if it's not as a player. His leadership and experience would be of great value.

:violin:
Take a good hard dose of laughing gas buddy!!
Then post something credible.

My2BobsWorth
17-02-2013, 07:25 PM
This is like a One Direction facebook page

militiamon
17-02-2013, 08:43 PM
Oh my God, scozz updated his 'About Me' page :wub:

sanchez
21-02-2013, 09:34 PM
Scoz, how's things ya madee?

scozzygt
22-02-2013, 07:29 PM
Oh my God, scozz updated his 'About Me' page :wub:

And tha pope has fuxked off!!
Well, he is a kraut, an they bxstards bombed ma grannys hoose!!

scozzygt
22-02-2013, 07:35 PM
Scoz, how's things ya madee?

Just coz you walk bandy, does NOT give you tha right to
call me names.
So,:arse:

au revoir
23-02-2013, 01:27 AM
scozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz aw geeez.

Swifts
15-06-2013, 09:15 AM
Ljubo has signed for Melbourne Knights.

hawk
15-06-2013, 05:47 PM
olive trees :wub:

JCBT
15-06-2013, 10:13 PM
I thought he said he would never play in Aus again as we are all racist? I bet foz members like Mike Hunt would love this.

plague
16-06-2013, 12:46 AM
Love Ljubes. Hope it goes good.
Bloke was great for us.
Hope he checks beck into the foz soon.

scozzygt
17-06-2013, 08:42 PM
Love Ljubes. Hope it goes good.
Bloke was great for us.
Hope he checks beck into the foz soon.

Fuk, yeah, he crawls back to tha land of racism, that rejected him!
This fukkn shit could not be made up!

Honestly, let one go on him, if that's your thing.

Sign him, he will sort everything.

scozzygt
17-06-2013, 08:47 PM
Me would luv to clatter his ankles, jus for a laugh,:grin:

pv4
08-08-2013, 10:27 PM
:wub: bump for that last post

In other news, I will officially be a gve-in kind of guy if we bring ljubo back. Seasons of shit results will be forgiven if ljubo is brought back. He is the answer to all our worries

Make it happen!

MFKS
08-08-2013, 11:35 PM
The Roar understands that Ljubo Milicevic will be offered a lifeline by his former club Newcastle Jets. Milicevic, who is currently playing with his junior club Melbourne Knights in the Victorian Premier League, may re-sign with the Jets as early as tomorrow.

The former Socceroo centre-back fell out dramatically with the club in 2011, levelling accusations at teammates, staff and the A-League itself.

A move to boyhood club Hajduk Split in Croatia was cut short by injuries, and since returning to Melbourne Milicevic has been eager to impress in the VPL.

Since spending time abroad the big centre back has mellowed, and is looking to get back to his best. The Roar understands that Jets coach Gary van Egmond is in the market for an experienced centre back to complement young chargers Connor Chapman and Taylor Regan.

Milicevic’s return would come as one of the unlikeliest signings of the off-season, but at 32, Milicevic still has plenty to offer the Jets. During his time at Newcastle he formed a formidable partnership with Nikolai Topor-Stanley, and quickly became a hit with the fans.

Rumour gaining momentum.

Jetmaster
09-08-2013, 07:52 AM
:wub: bump for that last post

In other news, I will officially be a gve-in kind of guy if we bring ljubo back. Seasons of shit results will be forgiven if ljubo is brought back. He is the answer to all our worries

Make it happen!

I have no doubt, especially after hearing him speak at the fan forum a few years back, that GVE has mega respect for Ljubo. I also think that respect goes both ways - he left during the Branko era, maybe it would have been different if GVE stayed on ?

He and Bridgey have to seriously kiss and make up though...Kasey gone helps a great deal.

What will Heskey make of him ?

Will be an interesting couple of days.

plague
09-08-2013, 09:22 AM
What will Heskey make of him ?


If we keep clean sheets EVERYONE will love Ljubo.

I swear to God that if we sign him I will not make any snarky comments about Middleby for at least one month.

Grimario
09-08-2013, 09:33 AM
****ing hell. If this happens, I may have to rethink my top 8 comment.

russjaybee
09-08-2013, 09:34 AM
Oh lordy... Oh well at least things will get interesting around here.

northern_swan
09-08-2013, 09:41 AM
My mail says it's not going to happen. Sorry fellas.

Rocknerd
09-08-2013, 09:44 AM
If this happens ill be defending GVE's honour and be creating a GVEIN Facebook group to praise his genius.

Grimario
09-08-2013, 09:48 AM
My mail says it's not going to happen. Sorry fellas.

You are the rain on my parade, northernunderscoreswan.

Jetmaster
09-08-2013, 10:56 AM
My mail says it's not going to happen. Sorry fellas.

Sorry swan, your source is wrong..

I'm a poet and I didn't even know it !

steve136
09-08-2013, 11:36 AM
Am hearing it isn't going to happen.

GVE out.
Middleby out.
Deans out.
Bridges out.
We're gonna win the spoon.

Jeterpool
09-08-2013, 11:45 AM
Guess we will just have to wait and see.

belchardo
09-08-2013, 12:28 PM
so what we seem to have here is a gen-u-ine battle of the sauces.

i'm backing tomato.

seldom
09-08-2013, 12:36 PM
If the problem is he doesn't get along with Bridges,how bout we fvck Bridges off...I know who we need more

Blackmac79
09-08-2013, 05:29 PM
I would like to see bridges move permanently into a silent commentary position.

timmy_v
13-08-2013, 10:05 PM
Jets are also in talks with a experienced dutch defender.

Rumour has it that GVE and the club are favouring him over Ljubo.

380
13-08-2013, 10:17 PM
If GvE is involved in bringing a o/seas player he should fit just nicely in the yoof team. Prob see him put in a good effort at some stage in the first team til halftime and then get hooked and never to be seen again.

Raw Boned Youngster
14-08-2013, 07:57 PM
GVE probably won't be involved in the decision- he likes to be able to blame someone.

GazFish35
14-08-2013, 09:16 PM
If the problem is he doesn't get along with Bridges,how bout we fvck Bridges off...I know who we need more

This

Raw Boned Youngster
14-08-2013, 09:29 PM
would be fun to have the big man back and all, but unfortunately the game has moved on from Ljubo's last stint. The pace of the game in the final third would be too much for the ageing big fellow, despite his feel for the game, and we all know he doesn't handle things when it doesn't go his way.
Better value making a cameo on the terraces.

turbojetfireV8
16-08-2013, 11:43 PM
Would be interesting to hear from Ljubo, in an ideal world, what would entice him back to the Jets...

Jetmaster
17-08-2013, 10:15 AM
Would be interesting to hear from Ljubo, in an ideal world, what would entice him back to the Jets...

Nothing now, that horse has bolted.

sammydog
17-08-2013, 11:00 AM
Sounds to me like Ljubo was the back up plan if the dutch signing fell through.

Solid back up plan, but I am happy with the way the club went.

MFKS
17-08-2013, 03:27 PM
Sounds to me like Ljubo was the back up plan if the dutch signing fell through.

Solid back up plan, but I am happy with the way the club went.

Seriously **** Mitchell/Nevile or Bridges off and get the bloke back.


Can you imagine how awesome our team would be with Ljubo and Hugh Jaliens carving it up at the back??

newi24-2-08
19-08-2013, 09:57 AM
The twitter goss is that It sounds like he's heading to Perth

JCBT
19-08-2013, 10:13 AM
GVE was very certain when I spoke to him last week regarding this that Ljubo would not be coming back to Newy.

380
19-08-2013, 10:42 AM
Thats it then. GVE f^&*'n OUT. Ljubo IN.

boz-monaut
19-08-2013, 12:35 PM
http://www.thefootballsack.com/2013/08/ljubo-milicevic-to-reunite-with-perth.html

GVE out
Deans out
Middleby out
Palmer out
Baartz out
Tinkler out
Lowy out
Blatter out

belchardo
19-08-2013, 12:40 PM
best of luck to him. will no doubt come back and destroy us.

plague
19-08-2013, 03:12 PM
http://www.thefootballsack.com/2013/08/ljubo-milicevic-to-reunite-with-perth.html

GVE out
Deans out
Middleby out
Palmer out
Baartz out
Tinkler out
Lowy out
Blatter out

I am not happy.
http://i.imgur.com/frnXxyM.gif

GazFish35
19-08-2013, 03:32 PM
Good luck to him.

Thomas477
19-08-2013, 03:37 PM
I am not happy.
http://i.imgur.com/frnXxyM.gif

:roflz:

MFKS
19-08-2013, 03:59 PM
http://www.thefootballsack.com/2013/08/ljubo-milicevic-to-reunite-with-perth.html

GVE out
Deans out
Middleby out
Palmer out
Baartz out
Tinkler out
Lowy out
Blatter out

I thought he was going anyway??

Heard he was handing over the reigns of the FFA soon and one of his sons were gonna take over.

Pico
19-08-2013, 04:05 PM
Lowy's last term ends in 2015, so still a while yet.

Can't see how he can hand it to his son either, his two lieutenant's are also stepping down and they will be gone before he leaves, interesting times ahead.

Local Rules
20-08-2013, 02:12 PM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1164671/Milicevic-joins-Perth-Glory


It is done. Watch him kick our arse

leftrightout
20-08-2013, 03:53 PM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1164671/Milicevic-joins-Perth-Glory


It is done. Watch him kick our arse

When do we play perth? Im expecting a classic Ljubo meltdown way before then!

Jetmaster
20-08-2013, 08:26 PM
Ljubo get on with Jacob Burns ? I'd like to see that...

My2BobsWorth
21-08-2013, 05:44 PM
Probably meltdown before the season begins, I think there's a bit of friction at Perth already

Edit- nice avatar Jetmaster

sammydog
03-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Well, Ljubo is gone from perth already.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/soccer/19237950/milicevic-walks-out-on-glory/

boz-monaut
03-10-2013, 08:06 PM
sign him up

lquiquer
03-10-2013, 08:14 PM
Classic Ljubo....!!!!! oh I miss him

380
03-10-2013, 08:15 PM
Quick get Mitchell on the first plane over there.

boz-monaut
03-10-2013, 08:17 PM
Probably meltdown before the season begins

a regular Nostra-****ing-damus we got right here

GazFish35
03-10-2013, 11:08 PM
Would be so good if he returned.


Can see him at arsenal soon!

MFKS
04-10-2013, 05:22 PM
Apparently was not happy Glory wouldn't oblige with letting him watch porn eating donuts/chocolate and tend to his fruit trees and wanted him to train/play

Grimario
25-11-2013, 12:31 PM
Shayne Hope ‏@shayne_hope 13m
Ljubo Milicevic will be at Sydney-Newcastle this week, says he's got "something real special planned" for 13th min. Any guesses? #aleague

plague
25-11-2013, 12:56 PM
Shayne Hope ‏@shayne_hope 13m
Ljubo Milicevic will be at Sydney-Newcastle this week, says he's got "something real special planned" for 13th min. Any guesses? #aleague

A fight with Sean Rooney?

Love Ljubo.

russjaybee
25-11-2013, 01:30 PM
Happy to have Ljubo as a supporter.

MFKS
29-11-2013, 06:00 PM
Former Socceroos defender Ljubo Miličević has spoken for the first time since his split from Perth Glory after just two months at the A-League club.

Speaking to The Roar yesterday, a relaxed Miličević was philosophical about his time in the west, but avoided going into specific detail.

“I left because I wanted to seek opportunities elsewhere, and I think that’s worked out best for everyone,” he said.

“I signed for the season and initially that’s what I thought I’d be doing, but life throws you curveballs, let alone football, and everyone knows football is at the best of times weird.

“If you look at my career I’ve set all kinds of records, and I guess six weeks at a club is a new one.”

Despite his early departure, Miličević believed that the Glory were taking the right approach under Alistair Edwards.

“A lot of coaches have taken advantage of Tony Sage’s kindness, but I think Alistair Edwards and Gareth Naven have got the club’s best interests at heart, they’re former Glory players, they’re legends of the club. Scott Miller’s there and Bobby (Despotovski) is there as well, they want what’s best for the team,” he said.

“Unfortunately I couldn’t stay there, but look they’ve gone out and signed a World Cup winner – they’re better off having him there than me anyway. William Gallas – who am I compared to him?”

Miličević lavished praise on the French international, and scoffed at any doubts the 36-year-old defender was past his best.

“I think the age thing is bullshit. Look at Del Piero, look at (Paolo) Maldini, look at (Franco) Baresi, Francesco Totti,” he said.

“I mean we’ve got to stop following the AFL and NRL’s lead, they’ve got it wrong, they’re not international sports.

“We don’t base our game on physicality, it’s about poise and technique. As long as you want to play and look after yourself you can play.

“William Gallas is a beast of a human being, he’s blessed with great genetics and he’s a great footballer. The dude can play until 40 if he wants.”

Miličević cited former Central Coast Mariners Patrick Zwaanswijk and Daniel McBreen – who he labelled the A-League’s best player last season, along with fellow veteran Alessandro Del Piero – as examples of players able to play at a high level well into their 30s.

An AIS graduate, Miličević emerged as one of Australia’s brightest talents as an 18-year-old in a Perth Glory side recognised as one of the most successful in NSL history, alongside the likes of Despotovski and Troy Halpin.

Since then, it’s been an up-and-down ride.

Miličević has represented his country, most notably at the 2005 Confederations Cup, appeared in the UEFA Champions League with Swiss club FC Thun and made a successful return to Australian football with the Newcastle Jets.

Yet there have also been fallings out with numerous coaches, prematurely ended contracts and a one-year hiatus from the game in 2008, after which Miličević revealed he had struggled with the depression.

But according to Miličević, he wouldn’t change a thing.

“F*** life if there wasn’t ups and downs,” he said.

“I don’t want to be monotone, I don’t to be average, I don’t want to work nine to five, I’m not a slave.

“I enjoy the rollercoaster, because when I go to a theme park I find the rollercoaster interesting. I don’t want to go on the merry-go-round.”

Since leaving Perth Miličević had fielded offers from Asia and other A-League clubs, he said, but steadfastly refused to contemplate anything but a return to Hajduk Split.

In 2011 Miličević moved to the club he supported as a boy before leaving halfway through his first season after a pay dispute. The experience hasn’t hasn’t dimmed the obvious passion he has for the club.

“I just didn’t get paid for six months, I couldn’t live there anymore not getting paid, that was it,” he said.

“I’m welcome back, the fans love me – I wasn’t pushed out of the club, but I just couldn’t live there anymore not getting paid.

“But there’s a new president, a really good guy, the coach (Igor Tudor) is a former legend of Croatian football who played for Juventus for ten years, who is a friend.

“I will be going back, it’s just a matter of timing. Whether it’s in January or June, I will be playing for Hajduk again, if it’s the last thing I do. And when I want something, I get it.”

Miličević – and his considerable footballing ability – have been well-known throughout his career, it was his spell at Newcastle that Australia fans saw the most of his talent.

Over the course of three seasons Miličević formed an irrepressible partnership with Nikolai Topor-Stanley in the centre of defence, captaining the side and playing with a swagger that helped the club produce their best form since winning the title in 2007/08.

Of his Australian options, Newcastle was his preferred club, but Miličević cited several unnamed individuals standing in the way of his return to Hunter Stadium.

“Let’s not beat around the bush, there’s a couple of people at the club that don’t want me there,” he said of his prospects of playing for Newcastle again.

“The fans want me back, I’d love to be back, the majority of the team would be happy to see me, but there’s one or two individuals – without quoting names, it wouldn’t take that much of a Google search to figure out who I’m talking about – that don’t want me back at the Jets.

“Players, but also maybe one or two administrative guys as well, but we’ll see how long they stick around.

“I don’t think they’ve got a long time, because once the dude with all the cash runs out of cash he’s going to dash, and then it will be the people’s club again, which will be good.

“I was there on the weekend and while I’m here I’ll go to every game and pay my respects to the Squadron.

“But there’s an obvious disconnect between the club and the fans. Even though there was a good crowd there, there’s no atmosphere, and you can see it on the field as well.

“It’s not working as it is – the effort’s there but they lack a bit of soul. When Gary won the title not enough credit was given to (assistant) Mark Jones.

“Mark Jones was fantastic to work with, and I really hope he gets his chance in the A-League, if everyone else gets a turn then why not him?”

Two less-than-inspiring performances have seen van Egmond come in for criticism for his first-team selection and recruitment, after moving some of the Jets’ established stars on in favour of players he had worked with during his stint at the AIS.

Miličević had no hesitation in laying the blame squarely at the feet of the man who he worked under during the 2008/09 season.

“Under (van Egmond) the team hasn’t made the finals for the last two years, which is an achievement in itself in a ten-team league where the top six make the finals,” he said.

“Whether he says the team is developing for the future or not – that’s shit, because it’s not a youth development team.

“This town deserves a team that goes out there every week and plays with heart, gives it their all – and wins.

“When I was still here, we were entrenched in the finals landscape. Since I’ve left, they’ve bombed, and all of my mates have been moved on.

“Jobe (Wheelhouse) got moved on, Topor (Topor-Stanley) left and has gone on and been one of the best defenders in the league at Western Sydney, (Jeremy) Brockie left and went on to be the top goalscorer in the league, scoring bombs every week.

“Now Kanta (Ben Kantarovski) isn’t even playing, and Gary was saying he was going to be the next big thing, (Taylor) Regan was pushing me and Topor out two years ago and now can’t even get a game.

“Now Gary’s bagging out the young players that he signed, so where’s your f***ing vision Gary?”

His barbs weren’t limited to the Jets’ current boss.

“Branko Culina – mate, come on, look at his so-called success,” Miličević said, shaking his head.

“Look at Sydney United, full of Socceroos – Humphrey B. Bear could have coached that team. Again, Sydney Olympic – full of quality – Charlie Chaplin could have coached them.”

Not all of Miličević’s views on the FFA were critical, however, and he applauded the governing body on Wednesday’s appointment of Ange Postecoglou.

“Ange is a fantastic coach and I’m sure he is going to turn things around quickly. He isn’t part of any cliques, he doesn’t owe anybody anything, and he’s always backed himself,” he said.

“I think it’s the best choice Frank Lowy and David Gallop could have made.”

.

MFKS
29-11-2013, 06:01 PM
But Miličević hit out at recent criticisms of Socceroos’ ‘golden generation’, and was equally scathing about the public turning on some of the nation’s most decorated footballers.

“I think it’s been great that they’ve qualified for another World Cup, I mean we’re really getting complacent in this country,” he said.

“We didn’t qualify for a World Cup (since 1974) until this generation came together, now we’ve qualified for three in a row.

“Let’s give them a bit of respect that they deserve, you know, I think it’s quite sad that everyone forgets how good these guys have been for the country.

“They are the golden generation – Cahill, Bresciano, Lucas Neill, Wilkshire, Schwarzer, Dukes (Mark Viduka). I mean how much shit did Dukes cop? He’s the best player to come out of this country, along with Kewell, and we gave him shit because he didn’t score.

“Nobody remembers the fact that he had three guys on him all the time. That’s just Australia and the tall poppy syndrome here.

“But do you think the boys really care? Dukes sails his yacht off the coast of Croatia every summer, they’ve all got mansions, they’ve all played at the top all their life, it’s unfortunate that the fans turn on them so quickly.”

Yet Miličević’s plaudits weren’t restricted to Australia’s former stars. During his time at Perth the former Young Socceroo captain was impressed enough with 16-year-old Daniel De Silva to label him the best number ten in the country.

“Without a doubt,” he said.

“Anyone who has watched him play can see it, the kid’s a freak. He is that good – that good.

“I know there’s clubs after him in Europe, wanting to pay million-dollar transfer fees – they know what we’ve got here, we’ve got a jewel.”

Miličević also singled out Celtic midfielder Tom Rogic as a leader of the next generation.

“Rogic is fantastic, I’d love to see them (Rogic and De Silva) actually play together, but they’re different players, it’s not even right to compare,” he said.

“Rogic has got an amazing left foot, great control, technique, vision, Danny’s a right-footer, he’s more nimble, maybe quicker on the turn.

“If had to compare (Rogic) to a successful international player, I’d compare him to Zidane, and Danny reminds me of Messi.

“Which one would you have in your team? I’d rather have them both. It’s wrong to compare, they’re different players, but they’re both great – they’re the future of the Socceroos.”

“Overall I think that the standard of coaching in the A-League is fantastic,” he said.

“Popa (Tony Popovic) at Western Sydney, from what I hear (Josep) Gombau at Adelaide is doing a great job, look at John Aloisi at Melbourne Heart, Ernie Merrick has come back and is doing great at Wellington Phoenix, I mean look at their result on Sunday.

“Look at Arnie, and what he has been able to do with the level of turnover in that squad. And the reason, and I know from meeting with some of the Central Coast boys, is that they are tight.”
Miličević is known for his love of Torcida Split, Hajduk’s supporter group who once famously ringed the city of Split with flares during the club’s 100-year celebrations, and also has a close relationship with the Squadron, Newcastle Jets’ active support group.

He threw his own support behind the A-League’s active supporter groups, including Melbourne Victory’s North Terrace and Blue and White Brigade groups, in the wake of the FFA’s attempts to clamp down on what they deem to be “anti-social behaviour”.

“Why is there such negativity around the word ‘hooligans’? Flares are nothing, man – as long as they don’t go onto the pitch,” he said.

“At Hajduk, in Europe, it is nothing. At a derby against Dinamo (Zagreb) there is 50 flares – minimum – and do you think the players care?

“Forget the sponsors. They can have their half-time ad breaks, their advertising hoardings, but leave the ends to the fans.”

While he believes that the A-League has moved beyond ethnic-based clubs returning to the top level, he also believes those clubs and their traditions deserve to be respected.

“Melbourne Knights – Melbourne Croatia – were the team that I grew up watching, supporting week-in week-out, they’ve produced some of the best players this country has ever seen.

“Mark Viduka, Josip Šimunić, Frank Juric, Andrew Marth, the list goes on. Recently they had their 60th anniversary – but it was forgotten, other than in the Croatian community.

“The Italians at Marconi or Adelaide, the Greeks at South Melbourne or Sydney Olympic, they’ve all been pushed down, they’ve all been forgotten. They’re the reason why soccer has survived here.

“I’m not saying they should be back in the A-League, but they definitely shouldn’t try and crush them like they’re trying to with this NPL at the moment.

“Let them be, they’re a community club. People go there not just to watch soccer, they go there to play cards, they go there to play bocce, they go there to have a drink with their friends.

“When they’re feeling down and life’s getting to them, that’s where they meet. Stop trying to get rid of that.

“That’s where my parents met, at a Melbourne Croatia game. I exist because of football.”

Whether the FFV are in fact trying to crush the likes of Melbourne Knights and South Melbourne or not is a matter for another discussion. But in listening to Miličević comfortably switch between discussing a range of footballing issues, on and off the field, at a local, club and national level, it’s clear that there is deep thought and intelligence behind the persona often portrayed to the public.

Outrageously confident, yes. Outlandish, probably. But baseless? Hardly.

It is Miličević’s willingness to tell home truths that has landed him in trouble within the confines of the media-trained, cliche-riddled environment of team sport. Yet it is also the precise reason why when he speaks the Australian footballing public at the very least listens to what he has to say, regardless of whether they agree.

In 2011 the often-outspoken Miličević made what seemed at the time to be an outlandish claim about drug use in the AFL, labelled Eddie McGuire a bigot. He’s since been proven correct, and took the opportunity to once again aim up at McGuire.

“Look at the comments he made about the ‘land of the falafel’, Kevin Sheedy’s comments about the Department of Immigration earlier in the year,” he said.

“And then, a week after Adam Goodes is called an ape by a young girl, he comes out and suggests Goodes should be used to promote King Kong?

“Eddie calls himself a man of the people, and always goes on about being from Broady (Broadmeadows) – well go and live there Eddie, meet the people. You live in Toorak, mate.”

When the news broke of Essendon’s peptides scandal earlier this year Miličević said he wasn’t surprised, but was firm in his belief that the same problems did not exist in the A-League.

“The AFL and NRL are sports built on physicality, but football is about technique, and players being nimble,” he said.

“Look at Messi, Zidane, Boban – some of the best players in the world barely got behind halfway, I mean Ronald Koeman played most of his career with a gut.”

Miličević spoke of his frustration at seeing the over-reporting of fan trouble in the A-League when compared with similiar issues in the AFL and cricket.

“That’s just Anglo Australia – let’s pick on the ethnics,” he said.

“Every generation of ethnics in this country has copped shit, from the history of time. Go back to Sovereign Hill and the golden age.

“My parents and all the other ‘wogs’, which is a term created in this country that nobody else in the world knows the meaning of.

“But now we’re in vogue and there’s Italian restaurants everywhere and everyone loves going out for a Serbian or a Croatian bite to eat.

“Then I guess you’ve got the Cambodians and Vietnamese, and it’s in to eat pho and san choy bow, and now you’ve got the Afghanis and Iraqis.

“They’re only coming to this country because we’ve gone and bombed theirs. Why would they want to come and live here? They were happy. They would be happy if it wasn’t for the Americans raping and pillaging their country for oil.”

The root of Australia’s attitudes to immigration, according to Miličević, was not with its people but those running it – and those who report on it.

“What breeds that are the papers that report it, the Telegraph and the Herald Sun,” he said.

“Aussies are loved everywhere they go, and people love visiting Australia. But if you’ve got the paper reporting negativity and bile every week, then of course people are going to form an opinion on it.

“The same way people form an opinion about Frankston being full of bogans, or the Bra Boys in Sydney, or the bikies – mate, I don’t know about you but I don’t remember the last time a bikie knocked on my door and shot me in the leg.

“Who’s worse? The bikies, or the politicians that support Americans bombing countries and stealing their oil?

“Tony Abbott – give me a break. Don’t allow boat people in? Did that guy f***ing forget he came on a boat?”
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MFKS
29-11-2013, 06:02 PM
But while Miličević remains as forthcoming on a wide spectrum of issues as ever, he is positive and bullish about his future career.

His love for football is still strong, and while he flatly refuses to entertain any football-related career beyond his playing days he looks forward to returning to the terraces.

Not that that will be any time soon.

“I’ll play until I’m 40. I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I’ve gone vegetarian, I do yoga every day, my body feels better than it’s ever felt, I’ve lost a lot of weight, I’m the lightest I’ve been since I was 16, and anyone who has seen me play recently will tell you that” he said, with a steely, determined gaze that seems to dare you to suggest otherwise.

“So I don’t put any limitations on where I’m going to go and what I’m going to do, and I always score a contract, and I’ll continue to for as long as I want to.”

How Miličević is remembered as a footballer in this country may yet to be determined. With no major injuries and subsequent reconstructions, Miličević is probably correct in saying that his body isn’t that of a typical 32-year-old, and his best might still be ahead of him.

He dismisses the possibility of not returning to Hajduk, bluntly calling it a negative question. But if his future isn’t back in Croatia, it would be fair and just to see Miličević get the chance to again underline his footballing credentials to the doubters, whether it is in the A-League or abroad.

Beyond football, Miličević is ultimately happy.

“I love this country, this land that the Aboriginals have welcomed us to live in. You talk about playing for Australia or whatever, and you can talk about playing for money, it’s the mates that I’ve got out of it that’s important.

“I’m always greeted with hugs and kisses and smiles, and when I see my mates and the smiles and the friendships that I’ve made over the last 20 years of my life I can tell you, you can have all the money in the world, and still not be happy.

“When I see the smiles, that means more to me than driving a Ferrari. I’d probably have just f***ing crashed the Ferrari anyway.”

As always, the last word is left to Ljubo.

“Namaste,” he said.

“It’s a term used in yoga, Google it, follow me on Instagram @ljubomilicevic, there’s a definition there.

“I’m spreading the love.”

These unnamed blokes need removing from the club. they are holding it back.

Ljubo In

hawk
29-11-2013, 07:44 PM
phking lubes ay <3

Raw Boned Youngster
30-11-2013, 01:31 AM
always good for a laugh.
the world is tough for Ljubo- he wants to be taken seriously, but he is the train wreck that everyone looks at.
he has become the laughing stock that we all thought he would become.

GazFish35
30-11-2013, 07:33 AM
he has become the laughing stock that we all thought he would become.

Not everyone is laughing at him.
Some are laughing with him.

parksey
30-11-2013, 11:08 AM
not many

militiamon
30-11-2013, 11:09 AM
Luv u Ljubes :)

plague
30-11-2013, 11:15 AM
Yeah Heaven forbid a well travelled, articulate, educated person has an informed opinion on something he knows more about than 99% of his detractors.
No place for that in our society.

Premy
30-11-2013, 11:26 AM
Yeah Heaven forbid a well travelled, articulate, educated person has an informed opinion on something he knows more about than 99% of his detractors.
No place for that in our society.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
Namaste that shit

seldom
30-11-2013, 11:23 PM
So Lubo in...Bridges and Middleby out...Whats the hold up ?

terry
01-12-2013, 10:15 AM
lubo in

MFKS
11-01-2014, 12:02 PM
Imagine if we now signed Lljubo??

How oarsome would our side be??

http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2014/01/907330_Newcastle_Jets.jpg

Fap material make it happen

joel31
11-01-2014, 12:06 PM
with GVE it won't happen but it would be great

JCBT
12-01-2014, 09:48 AM
GVE has mentioned before that in his opinion, Ljubo is a liability within the club and Bridges has a big dislike or hatred of him also.

boz-monaut
12-01-2014, 10:01 AM
it's pretty obvious that GVE and Bridges should leave then

sanchez
12-01-2014, 10:23 AM
it's pretty obvious that GVE and Bridges should leave then

Second this.

8===3 ~ ~

Schultz
12-01-2014, 10:23 AM
it's pretty obvious that GVE and Bridges should leave then

Sounds good to me!

Tommyjet
12-01-2014, 10:35 AM
it's pretty obvious that GVE and Bridges should leave then

Yep I'm all for it

russjaybee
12-01-2014, 11:21 AM
Ljubo is instability personified.

Raw Boned Youngster
12-01-2014, 02:15 PM
Too slow for this league- would be caught and react by going off his crisps at all and sundry. In saying that, the club probably lacks a bit of turmoil at the moment. Lubes could definitely supply it.

Premy
05-03-2014, 01:14 AM
Ljubo dropping truth bombs on FB about PV4's idol.:roflz:

seldom
05-03-2014, 01:19 AM
sign him up you khunts!

militiamon
05-03-2014, 01:24 AM
Screenshot?

Premy
05-03-2014, 01:45 AM
625626
Best I could do on the phone sorry

pv4
05-03-2014, 06:22 AM
:rof: Bridges is the reason we can't have nice things.

I still will never subscribe to the Bridges "nice guy" act everyone else seemingly has - he single-handedly tore the playing squad up, and is the reason Ljubo (the best clubman ever) isn't here anymore.

Plus he is an AWFUL player since returning from retirement (oh yeah pv4, but he just needs to start, in a position our formation never uses, and he'll be good, trust us).

This fxxxing club, I swear.

Blackmac79
05-03-2014, 06:30 AM
Your problem is that you expect us to be something we are not.

Half decent

pv4
05-03-2014, 07:01 AM
Your problem is that you expect us to be something we are not.

Half decent

I apologize to everyone for my "high" expectations

Blackmac79
05-03-2014, 07:06 AM
I apologize to everyone for my "high" expectations

On behalf of the foz I accept your apology

leftrightout
05-03-2014, 07:52 AM
:rof: Bridges is the reason we can't have nice things.

I still will never subscribe to the Bridges "nice guy" act everyone else seemingly has - he single-handedly tore the playing squad up, and is the reason Ljubo (the best clubman ever) isn't here anymore.

Plus he is an AWFUL player since returning from retirement (oh yeah pv4, but he just needs to start, in a position our formation never uses, and he'll be good, trust us).

This fxxxing club, I swear.

How do you know it was Bridges who single handidly tore apart the playing squad?
When the whole Tinkler licence shit went down, didnt he play a large part in keeping the squad together?

No he isnt a great player now and you can definitely hate him for that. But without actually knowing what happened, to say he just isn't a nice guy and is at fault for alot the shit that went down is a bit much isnt it?

Jetmaster
05-03-2014, 08:35 AM
It's a mania on here.

Kasey had much more to do with getting Ljubo out the door than Bridges.

He even publicly put him down in TV interviews.

The fact two senior players stood up to a fruitloop upsets some.

BodyNovo
05-03-2014, 08:55 AM
bridges good bloke, good restaurant

shit player

q-money
05-03-2014, 09:57 AM
ah man, the ljubo conundrum, go back in the day in those strayan y00f tournaments when he pretty much destroyed everyone, busting forward making passes on a dime, makes you cry that the bloke never got to the pinnacle where someone of his undeniable talent and physical prowess should be, but hey he's happy with it so namaste that shit (i believe)

northern_swan
05-03-2014, 11:01 AM
It's a mania on here.

Kasey had much more to do with getting Ljubo out the door than Bridges.

He even publicly put him down in TV interviews.

The fact two senior players stood up to a fruitloop upsets some.

This.
I know you lot idolise him, but multiple sauces have stated that Ljubo was the problem, not Bridges.

q-money
05-03-2014, 11:03 AM
be it bridges or milicevic, this club has a raging hong for the mental and/or useless

ps tiago

Bon
05-03-2014, 11:05 AM
be it bridges or milicevic, this club has a fetish for the mental and/or useless

It's what keeps us coming back to suckle at the teet of mediocrity, week in, week out..

parksey
05-03-2014, 11:07 AM
Corbo

q-money
05-03-2014, 11:28 AM
corbo, true don

russjaybee
05-03-2014, 11:30 AM
be it bridges or milicevic, this club has a raging hong for the mental and/or useless

ps tiago

Jardel

Still have his signature I got @ king st maccas post game.

plague
05-03-2014, 11:32 AM
When the whole Tinkler licence shit went down, didnt he play a large part in keeping the squad together?


I was always under the impression that players wages were being paid and contracts were being honoured (and guaranteed) during that period.
Players couldn't go anywhere without a formal release from the club even if they got a better offer.
I know the likes of Ryan Griffiths and Bridges were on the news bleating about how good clubman they were but the younguns may have a different take.
Anyway a few on here are mates with some of them, maybe ask.

plague
05-03-2014, 11:36 AM
I also love the 'great bloke/so so player' argument about Bridges yet Ljubos 'great player/so so teammate' is met with DERRR WE CANT HAVE THIS AT OUR CLUB DERRRRR.

I'm a nice bloke, don't mean I'm good enough to get a run.
(probs do better than Bridges tho).

pv4
05-03-2014, 12:00 PM
I also love the 'great bloke/so so player' argument about Bridges yet Ljubos 'great player/so so teammate' is met with DERRR WE CANT HAVE THIS AT OUR CLUB DERRRRR.

I'm a nice bloke, don't mean I'm good enough to get a run.
(probs do better than Bridges tho).

Nah m8 I've talked to a few people and they say you're wrong

/argument

parksey
05-03-2014, 12:19 PM
Being toxic to a team environment and not being being a key player are totally different things.

There's obviously a reason why Ljubos career fizzle out like it has. It's a real shame but it's just how it is.

plague
05-03-2014, 12:55 PM
Nah m8 I've talked to a few people and they say you're wrong

/argument

About being better than Bridges?

militiamon
05-03-2014, 07:20 PM
It's a mania on here.

Kasey had much more to do with getting Ljubo out the door than Bridges.

He even publicly put him down in TV interviews.

The fact two senior players stood up to a fruitloop upsets some.

Didn't Wehrman give away secrets to his best mate Graham Arnold, hence why GVE had him finish his career by doing a squillion laps?

GazFish35
05-03-2014, 07:34 PM
Anyway a few on here are mates with some of them, maybe ask.

In so many ways this is the clubs biggest asset and biggest liability all at the same time.

q-money
05-03-2014, 10:14 PM
lol how's the intrigue ay, the wehrman brief

The Dunster
06-03-2014, 12:07 AM
Bridges was one of the players that voted to get rid of the gold strip and replace it with what is essentially a Newcastle Knights strip.

That's how much he gives a **** about the fans.

Ljubo is 100% correct.

Bridges is a nasty piece of work.

Raw Boned Youngster
06-03-2014, 07:09 AM
be interesting to know what high level secrets that we actually had back in Kasey's time at the club. What could he have possibly told Arnold that wouldn't be obvious from watching 10 minutes of the game?
Re Ljubo, probably best to ask some of the younger squad members of the time
their thoughts and what they thought of Bridges

GazFish35
06-03-2014, 07:33 AM
be interesting to know what high level secrets that we actually had back in Kasey's time at the club. What could he have possibly told Arnold that wouldn't be obvious from watching 10 minutes of the game?


The starting line up, and formation, about an hour before kickoff.

Go find a replay of the game, GVE blows up at Arnold when he either realises for himself that Arnold knew his match plans..... Or Arnie told him of the rat in the ranks.

The Dunster
06-03-2014, 11:39 PM
Re Ljubo, probably best to ask some of the younger squad members of the time
their thoughts and what they thought of Bridges

No secrets there. Branko, would piss off early and Ljubo and Mark Jones would stay back to help out with the younger members of the squad - in particular defensive players.
The fact that Ljubo never mentions this just shows how much class he has.

Unlike Bridges, who's always letting us know just how awesome he would have been were it not for a few injuries.

leftrightout
07-03-2014, 07:22 AM
I know there is alot of love for Ljubo here. And as a Jets player, on the field, i loved the guy as much as anyone. But if the guy has so much class off the field, why is he constantly not fitting in and losing the plot at pretty much every club he goes to?
Also, if Ljubo and Bridges hated each other and were at each other, isnt Ljubo involved in having the playing group split aswell? It take two to fight! If these two not getting along was a big reason for the way everything went then they are as guilty as each other in this case, unfortunately the one we are left with is a much lesser player!

MFKS
07-03-2014, 07:52 AM
I know there is alot of love for Ljubo here. And as a Jets player, on the field, i loved the guy as much as anyone. But if the guy has so much class off the field, why is he constantly not fitting in and losing the plot at pretty much every club he goes to?
Also, if Ljubo and Bridges hated each other and were at each other, isnt Ljubo involved in having the playing group split aswell? It take two to fight! If these two not getting along was a big reason for the way everything went then they are as guilty as each other in this case, unfortunately the one we are left with is a much lesser player!

Ljubo is just misunderstood.

The bloke lets face it is a nutter. As a result clubs that sign him need to be a bit more tolerant with him as he is gonna cause issues. The bloke is a class player but the downside to his talents is the issues he will bring. Poor bloke has needed some bloke to actually offer him some ****ing guidance/understanding and actually put some faith in the bloke and not back away from him his entire career. Unfortunately he has never got that. If he had of he would have played nearly 100 times for the Socceroos and have had a distinguished career.

The bloke has been let down by others as much as he is responsible for his own fate

GazFish35
07-03-2014, 08:00 AM
If standing up to someone who is doing wrong and calling them out, means you're responsible for that wrong doing too..... hang LJUBO up by his boot straps

Jetmaster
07-03-2014, 08:08 AM
No secrets there. Branko, would piss off early and Ljubo and Mark Jones would stay back to help out with the younger members of the squad - in particular defensive players.
The fact that Ljubo never mentions this just shows how much class he has.

Unlike Bridges, who's always letting us know just how awesome he would have been were it not for a few injuries.

Pfft - watched one of the old vids last night. An NBN clip with Ljubes openly arguing with said Jones who was running training. Ljubo repeating "what, do you think I'm wrong ?" - Jones pointing the finger and giving it back and basically telling him to go, lucky they were 20m apart.

Then the interview where he announced he wouldn't be playing for the Jets again after copping a bad injury and then leaving his team-mates before the season ended.

Ljubo only had two or three good mates at the Jets, Marko Jesic probably top of the tree.

Great player and was sensational here - but rose-coloured glasses ffs, he was becoming disruptive and was always going to go. The disruption was his own doing and as said above Lubes seems to have a streak in him that means he cannot leave a club without causing some sort of mayhem. There was no need to abuse Bridges wife for example - that is just gutless.

All this just once again re-inforces that the hate for Bridges on this forum is entirely because of the perceived role he had in Ljubo leaving the club. And I'm putting aside Bridges crap form, age etc aside here.

Bridges class is that he doesn't respond in public to all this baiting, and please provide a quote where Bridges bignotes himself.

Yes - I am over this shit......

pv4
07-03-2014, 08:29 AM
The fact that Bridges has snaked his way through all this bs and STILL has followers shows what an awful human being he is

leftrightout
07-03-2014, 08:46 AM
The fact that Bridges has snaked his way through all this bs and STILL has followers shows what an awful human being he is

I really dont get it, i cant see how he "snaked" his way through anything and i certainly don't know how it makes him an awful human being?
I don't know how he has followers as a footballer on the field. But as a person, i think you are being fairly harsh.

Jeterpool
07-03-2014, 09:51 AM
The fact that Bridges has snaked his way through all this bs and STILL has followers shows what an awful human being he is

That's a bit strong, Pv4.

russjaybee
07-03-2014, 10:29 AM
Ljubo is a great player but constantly makes himself centre of attention.
He's divisive and loves to stir the pot in a very public manner.

He's a great character but not one I want in the team, not really a pillar of stability.

seldom
07-03-2014, 01:03 PM
sign him up !

Tommyjet
07-03-2014, 06:36 PM
Pfft - watched one of the old vids last night. An NBN clip with Ljubes openly arguing with said Jones who was running training. Ljubo repeating "what, do you think I'm wrong ?" - Jones pointing the finger and giving it back and basically telling him to go, lucky they were 20m apart.

Then the interview where he announced he wouldn't be playing for the Jets again after copping a bad injury and then leaving his team-mates before the season ended.

Ljubo only had two or three good mates at the Jets, Marko Jesic probably top of the tree.

Great player and was sensational here - but rose-coloured glasses ffs, he was becoming disruptive and was always going to go. The disruption was his own doing and as said above Lubes seems to have a streak in him that means he cannot leave a club without causing some sort of mayhem. There was no need to abuse Bridges wife for example - that is just gutless.

All this just once again re-inforces that the hate for Bridges on this forum is entirely because of the perceived role he had in Ljubo leaving the club. And I'm putting aside Bridges crap form, age etc aside here.

Bridges class is that he doesn't respond in public to all this baiting, and please provide a quote where Bridges bignotes himself.

Yes - I am over this shit......

No I hate bridges because he constantly turns the ball over and is has wasted a spot for years that could of been used more effectively, should of just stayed retired

Jetmaster
07-03-2014, 07:52 PM
The fact that Bridges has snaked his way through all this bs and STILL has followers shows what an awful human being he is

Differentiate between Bridges the player and Bridges the man....the problem is that his haters can't do that without imploding.

May Griff have mercy on your soul.

pv4
07-03-2014, 08:22 PM
I don't differentiate because the two are so similar.

Jetmaster
07-03-2014, 08:48 PM
I don't differentiate because the two are so similar.

Please elucidate....I want some proof that Bridges the man is an absolute cock.

GazFish35
07-03-2014, 08:57 PM
Didn't he have an affair with the commando?

Raw Boned Youngster
07-03-2014, 11:36 PM
The story begins and ends with... Ljubo became impossible to work with, over the top etc and gave some of the squad members an irrationally hard time. This was causing major dramas in the camp and Bridges stepped in to basically take the side of the players under the constant attack.
I can tell you that this was the issue with complete confidence.
The great Ljubo actually sent me a couple of private messages asking who my insider was. I did have an insider on the coaching staff and he (Ljubo) seemed fairly agitated that I made public what I knew.
So basically, the role of Bridges wasn't to undermine Ljubo, it was to support a couple of his team mates.
Ljubo dug his own grave, as he has at most of his clubs through his predictably unpredictable outbursts.

Jetmaster
09-03-2014, 09:20 AM
The story begins and ends with... Ljubo became impossible to work with, over the top etc and gave some of the squad members an irrationally hard time. This was causing major dramas in the camp and Bridges stepped in to basically take the side of the players under the constant attack.
I can tell you that this was the issue with complete confidence.
The great Ljubo actually sent me a couple of private messages asking who my insider was. I did have an insider on the coaching staff and he (Ljubo) seemed fairly agitated that I made public what I knew.
So basically, the role of Bridges wasn't to undermine Ljubo, it was to support a couple of his team mates.
Ljubo dug his own grave, as he has at most of his clubs through his predictably unpredictable outbursts.

Thank you....my mail too.

/thread......

boz-monaut
09-03-2014, 09:39 AM
so you're saying that your source in all this is Bridges?

plague
09-03-2014, 09:40 AM
Excellent point, it's great knowing the squad is happy and stable as they stink the joint out over these last few years.

Romario.
Stoichkov.
Cantona.

Nutters.
Winners.

/keeps thread open

pv4
09-03-2014, 09:41 AM
My mail is different to yours, guys.


/keeps thread open

:cool:

Jetmaster
09-03-2014, 03:32 PM
My mail is different to yours, guys.



:cool:

Hey PV - just heard Griff say he's out but expects to be back in 4-6 weeks.....

:whistling:

sammydog
09-03-2014, 04:25 PM
so you're saying that your source in all this is Bridges?

Heard the same thing from within the set up and it definitely wasn't from Bridges.

seldom
09-03-2014, 11:05 PM
So there are peepz who truly believe Bridges is a better option than Lubes...we truly are fvcked !

sammydog
10-03-2014, 07:31 AM
I don't see the argument in the last few posts as being about who is a better player (when was the last game Ljubo played though, not sure he would offer too much either at this point). People are just stating what they know about the Ljubo/Bridges animosity. There does seem to be a correlation between peoples hatred of Bridges and the role they saw him playing in Ljubo leaving the club.

Lubes as good a player as he is, is destabilising and destructive within the team environment. He has done this time and time again at different clubs. Lets not kid ourselves, Ljubo played a leading role in his demise here, and likely at his past clubs. I loved having him here, think he is a great player on the park but wouldn't want the club to go chasing him. Much better options out there.

Bridges, well we won't have him playing next season (or likely this season) so thats really not an issue going forward. I'm relatively happy to leave the starting 11 and bench as is (with a few tweaks as players come back from injury). As it is though, I think Bridges in the squad provides better mentoring and advice for young players than Ljubo. Not a reason to keep him in the squad long term, but I don't see Ljubo walking into a starting spot either.

I think we should be aiming to go forward next season without either of them.

Couscous
01-06-2018, 10:04 AM
Okay, I'm going to put it out there: Ljubo's a dick.

Great player for us, sure, but a dick nonetheless.

https://scontent-syd2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9fcf40f0f49f68998c67cf81d2084766/5BAB4ECF/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/c104.0.451.451/32481173_1293365930765977_3995105220697784320_n.jp g

linky (https://www.instagram.com/p/BjRljrZBqK_/)


ljubomilicevic Soooo.... found a TURBO "KID" pic... to match the TANGENT VIBE I'm about to go on ... haha... firstly well done to the @newcastlejetsfc youth team for their 1 nil win over us today... few talents out there for sure but hurry up and leave the club asap FaRKEN! Because basically you're never going to break through to the senior team as long as Ernie Merrick is the coach, he can't grow tomatoes let alone nurture young talents on the bigger stage... he doesn't believe in the youth, surely you've all realised that by now... Secondly... To dear Lawrie Mckinna aka CEO aka Youth Coach aka Council Man aka ETC: What faaarken trip are you on? Trying to shake my hand after the game? Dude do you forget how you don't want me at JETS club events? How I was specifically told that it's in the clubs best interest to not have me at The Legends game earlier in the year?! Maaaate I totally accept that we have got completely different VIBES, I'm not one for FAKERY or licking ass ... sooooo.... carry on doing what you do, slapping palms and all that shit , I'm not registered to vote anyway so why bother with me?! And lastly... to Labi Haliti your side kick and any other ex- team mates of mine who are now gladly part of a system that I so despise... there is a reason why we don't catch up for coffee or hang out ... you sold out and it's a farken bore... annnnddd....on that note... Anyone in Bondi up for some Rose'? The Kids Truth Vibes ��❤️ Ajde Jebote

MonkeyKplunk
01-06-2018, 10:23 AM
From this I'm assuming they don't do random drug screening in the NPL?

Charlie Chan
01-06-2018, 10:31 AM
He needs to stop thinking he is important to the JETS, he is embarrassing!!!

The Dunster
01-06-2018, 10:38 AM
Okay, I'm going to put it out there: Ljubo's a dick.

Great player for us, sure, but a dick nonetheless.

https://scontent-syd2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9fcf40f0f49f68998c67cf81d2084766/5BAB4ECF/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/c104.0.451.451/32481173_1293365930765977_3995105220697784320_n.jp g

linky (https://www.instagram.com/p/BjRljrZBqK_/)

Ljubo is one of the good guys. When Branko was coach and couldn't end training quick enough to get home it was always Ljubo and Mark Jones that would stay back and work with the younger players. The parents of these younger players and the players themselves can't speak highly enough about him.

Ljubo is a good man.

StannyCFCJET
01-06-2018, 10:52 AM
He basically abuses our new coach then gets angry when he isnt invited or told not to come for the legends game. Is Ljubo really that thick and for all his comments about Merrick and youth. Merrick has done a stellar job with the likes of Champness, Vujica and Johnny K. Still love Ljubo but he needs to rain it in a bit

mic22
01-06-2018, 11:02 AM
Salty?
Self-important?
Both?

The Dunster
01-06-2018, 11:59 AM
He basically abuses our new coach then gets angry when he isnt invited or told not to come for the legends game. Is Ljubo really that thick and for all his comments about Merrick and youth. Merrick has done a stellar job with the likes of Champness, Vujica and Johnny K. Still love Ljubo but he needs to rain it in a bit

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Grimario
01-06-2018, 12:09 PM
He basically abuses our new coach then gets angry when he isnt invited or told not to come for the legends game. Is Ljubo really that thick and for all his comments about Merrick and youth. Merrick has done a stellar job with the likes of Champness, Vujica and Johnny K. Still love Ljubo but he needs to rain it in a bit

Champness maybe but Vujica disappeared and Johnny K only got a chance because of injuries and suspensions. He wouldn't have been playing if everyone was fit. Even Jowic only got an opportunity because of a bunch of injuries/suspensions.

380
01-06-2018, 12:25 PM
Ljubo needs to learn that sometimes the bigger thing to do is just shut the f&*k up.

380
01-06-2018, 12:27 PM
Champness maybe but Vujica disappeared and Johnny K only got a chance because of injuries and suspensions. He wouldn't have been playing if everyone was fit. Even Jowic only got an opportunity because of a bunch of injuries/suspensions.

Those players further down your roster from your first 11 only getting game time through injuries or suspensions. I would say that is situation normal at most clubs

Bon
01-06-2018, 02:13 PM
Hasn't Ljubo posted on here himself before?

Rumour has it, that he grew his beard and hair long to stop people confusing him with pv4.. :gent:

Jeterpool
01-06-2018, 02:18 PM
Rumour has it, that he grew his beard and hair long to stop people confusing him with pv4.. :gent:

I beleive it was actually to confuse Pv4 into thinking he was someone else so he'd stop following him.

Bon
01-06-2018, 02:30 PM
I beleive it was actually to confuse Pv4 into thinking he was someone else so he'd stop following him.

Yeah, the restraining order just wasn't enough.. haha

plague
01-06-2018, 03:02 PM
First you wanna silence Roseanne, now Ljubo.


Hes totally entitled to his opinion on matters.

Merrick had a good year.
Ljubo has experience with Merrick that no one on this forum has had.

Maybe ljubo and Merrick have different philosophies and that both can be right.

And I'm absolutely backing him on the McKinna stuff. No way I'm shaking the hand of someone who snaked me like that.

Some blokes on here need to have some self respect.

pv4
01-06-2018, 03:05 PM
And I'm absolutely backing him on the McKinna stuff. No way I'm shaking the hand of someone who snaked me like that.

100%

Jetmaster
01-06-2018, 09:03 PM
Ljubo hates Griff as well....he is who he is. We all accept it but Lubes doesn't want us too.

MFKS
02-06-2018, 12:30 AM
First you wanna silence Roseanne, now Ljubo.


Hes totally entitled to his opinion on matters.

Merrick had a good year.
Ljubo has experience with Merrick that no one on this forum has had.

Maybe ljubo and Merrick have different philosophies and that both can be right.

And I'm absolutely backing him on the McKinna stuff. No way I'm shaking the hand of someone who snaked me like that.

Some blokes on here need to have some self respect.

Everything you said is 100% right
Except the bit you didnt say

Ljubo has history with Merrick
Ljubo can hate the Gypo CEO



But Ljubo called Griffo a sell out


So I will say it then

**** Ljubo

plague
02-06-2018, 07:37 AM
But Ljubo called Griffo a sell out



i will always be convinced and will never be swayed that Ljubo was talking about Adam Griffiths and his successful t-shirt business.
Bloke was happy he cleared all his old stock.

pv4
10-06-2018, 07:45 PM
I found it very interesting that in the recent Jerkstream live podcast with Lawrie McKinna (http://www.newcastlefootball.net/home/2018/06/the-jetstream-speak-to-newcastle-jets-ceo-lawrie-mckinna/), Lawrie confirmed the F3 Derby Legends game was organised externally and that an external guy did all the squad choices and chasing up. Makes Lawrie's recent comments about himself not allowing Ljubo to play in the game just another level of interesting to me..

MFKS
10-06-2018, 08:12 PM
I found it very interesting that in the recent Jerkstream live podcast with Lawrie McKinna (http://www.newcastlefootball.net/home/2018/06/the-jetstream-speak-to-newcastle-jets-ceo-lawrie-mckinna/), Lawrie confirmed the F3 Derby Legends game was organised externally and that an external guy did all the squad choices and chasing up. Makes Lawrie's recent comments about himself not allowing Ljubo to play in the game just another level of interesting to me..

When did Lawrie say it was his call Ljubo wasnt playing??

Thought it was Ljubo blaming the admin of the Jets for it


In between calling Griff a sell out

pv4
10-06-2018, 08:31 PM
When did Lawrie say it was his call Ljubo wasnt playing??

Thought it was Ljubo blaming the admin of the Jets for it


In between calling Griff a sell out

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5438408/ljubo-stands-firm-on-reaction-to-jets-snub/


McKinna confirmed the club decided Milicevic could not represent the Jets

...

“We’ve never said anything about any other event,” McKinna said.

“It was only about that [Legends] game. We just didn’t think it was right that he would represent the club.

Jetmaster
11-06-2018, 01:19 PM
The Legends game uses the Jets brand....doesn't matter who organises it. Lawrie has every right as CEO.

pv4
11-06-2018, 08:16 PM
The Legends game uses the Jets brand....doesn't matter who organises it. Lawrie has every right as CEO.

I'm not questioning the right that people do and don't have.. I am questioning the ethics about the situation though. And judging the actions and reactions at the time, slightly after, and now about the whole situation.

StannyCFCJET
11-06-2018, 08:24 PM
Honestly what did Lujbo expect to happen after publicly bagging our coach. He either needs to use more tact or not get upset when people react in a negative way to the things he says

plague
11-06-2018, 09:36 PM
Honestly what did Lujbo expect to happen after publicly bagging our coach. He either needs to use more tact or not get upset when people react in a negative way to the things he says

except the whole issue here is that the Gypo wanted to put on a front for the cameras and be his best mate after the Youth game.

Ljubo was reacting to 'that'. All this other stuff is as justified as they want it to be. Gypo can bar him from official Jets stuff for sure. But Ljubo merely had an issue with him them trying to act like his mate.

Gypo needed to shut it on this.

MFKS
11-06-2018, 09:41 PM
except the whole issue here is that the Gypo wanted to put on a front for the cameras and be his best mate after the Youth game.

Ljubo was reacting to 'that'. All this other stuff is as justified as they want it to be. Gypo can bar him from official Jets stuff for sure. But Ljubo merely had an issue with him them trying to act like his mate.

Gypo needed to shut it on this.

Yeah yeah yeah

Then.....

Ljubo proceeded to publically bag the one and only Griffo

**** him

halo se7en
12-06-2018, 11:29 AM
except the whole issue here is that the Gypo wanted to put on a front for the cameras and be his best mate after the Youth game.

Ljubo was reacting to 'that'. All this other stuff is as justified as they want it to be. Gypo can bar him from official Jets stuff for sure. But Ljubo merely had an issue with him them trying to act like his mate.

Gypo needed to shut it on this.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with McKinna trying to shake Ljubo’s hand after the game. They were both directly involved in the match and it’s a normal thing to do. I’d say Ljubo was extra pissed they lost, but most players/coaches seem to be able to put shit behind them and move on. Ljubo seems to be an exception to this. There’s a reason he didn’t stay at a higher level for longer and seemed to fall out with more people than you can poke a stick at.

plague
12-06-2018, 12:43 PM
Ljubo seems to be an exception to this.

So its Ljubo being petty?

Not the bloke letting personal grudges dictate the workings of the club?

Ok then.

Cool cool, but I'm sure I hear you guys all over the other threads continually telling me the fans are the real reason the club exists.

Must have had that one wrong.

My bad.

la bazzle
12-06-2018, 12:45 PM
You've got to be a real special kind of piece of sh!t to call Griff a sell out. How anyone could like anyone who does not like Griff I don't know.

Jetmaster
12-06-2018, 01:41 PM
Shaking hands with people you can't stand after games is part of the territory....Wenger and Jose a prime example.

plague
12-06-2018, 02:10 PM
Shaking hands with people you can't stand after games is part of the territory....Wenger and Jose a prime example.

First Trump and Kim, now we are normalising handshakes between Jets and Gypos.

2018 has been wild, man.

halo se7en
12-06-2018, 06:48 PM
So its Ljubo being petty?

Not the bloke letting personal grudges dictate the workings of the club?

Ok then.

Cool cool, but I'm sure I hear you guys all over the other threads continually telling me the fans are the real reason the club exists.

Must have had that one wrong.

My bad.

I didn’t use the word petty. Players & managers with far bigger grudges and axes to grind, and much longer histories can still shake hands after a match. Ljubo was hardly a lifelong club legend, why is he even in the frame for a legends game or whatever it was? Because he picked up a megaphone in the crowd once? The guys always been about himself first, second & third.

You’re saying McKinna was putting it on for the cameras? What ****ing cameras? It was an NPL game at a swamp in front of 3 men and a dog.

turbojetfireV8
12-06-2018, 07:35 PM
Could Ljubo and Griff face off this week?
https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5464291/ffa-cup-charlestown-jaffas-stars-set-to-feature-after-pitch-decision/?cs=6188

plague
12-06-2018, 08:51 PM
What ****ing cameras?

im assuming the ones from Bar tv that captured the footage.


and absolutely you did NOT call the Gypo 'petty' apologies for inferring you did.

but i sure will.

MFKS
12-06-2018, 09:07 PM
You've got to be a real special kind of piece of sh!t to call Griff a sell out. How anyone could like anyone who does not like Griff I don't know.

Can not give enough reputation for this post


Nail on the Head

halo se7en
12-06-2018, 09:17 PM
im assuming the ones from Bar tv that captured the footage.


and absolutely you did NOT call the Gypo 'petty' apologies for inferring you did.

but i sure will.

And their millions of viewers... soz.