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hawk
23-01-2013, 04:29 PM
Name Zenon Mauro Caravella is of Italian descent and is the nephew of Frank Farina
Date of birth (1983-05-17) 17 May 1983 (age 29)
Place of birth Cairns, Australia
Height 1.70 m (5 ft 7 in)
Playing position Midfielder
Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2001 St. George
2001–2004 Sydney Olympic
2004 Rockdale City
2004 Adelaide Galaxy 3 (0)
2004–2005 Sydney Olympic
2005–2006 New Zealand Knights 21 (0)
2006–2008 FC Omniworld 52 (6)
2009–2011 Gold Coast United 51 (1)
2011–2013 Adelaide United 29 (1)
2013- Newcastle Jets 0 (0

bit of a traveller

Tommyjet
23-01-2013, 04:37 PM
Feisty little character, decent technical ability

slobsy
23-01-2013, 04:42 PM
can't believe we passed up griffo to sign this bloke

boz-monaut
23-01-2013, 04:58 PM
can't believe we passed up griffo to sign this blokeabsolute disc race

this club makes me want to spew

plague
23-01-2013, 05:18 PM
can't believe we passed up griffo to sign this bloke

Not to mention we'll probably lose Jobe to keep him next year.

Middleby hates Newy lads.

Don't mind Caravella though, good sokkah hair.

My2BobsWorth
23-01-2013, 05:19 PM
Where is he going to play? As my good friend MFKS says, you can only have 10 blokes running around. He seems to play in the Zad,Brill,Brown type of position.

q-money
23-01-2013, 05:25 PM
z rated player for a z rated club

Jeterpool
23-01-2013, 05:43 PM
Don't know whether he is an improvement on what we currently have. Can't see what extra he brings in.

Happy to be proved wrong but this doesn't get me excited

la bazzle
23-01-2013, 06:09 PM
Love the Zen dog. Best signing since Picken

GazFish35
23-01-2013, 06:16 PM
Franks nephew!
Get him to the tenzo, he'll love a drink.

furns
23-01-2013, 07:33 PM
We bid welcome to the new Kaz Patafta.

380
23-01-2013, 07:55 PM
Already told the muppet where he thinks he should be playing. Will be doing Kasey laps tomorrow.

the_butcher
23-01-2013, 08:04 PM
love him, la baz's 6th favourite non-jet in the a-league

belchardo
23-01-2013, 08:10 PM
think this signing pretty much guarantees we won't keep both jobe and zad next year.

howardyou
23-01-2013, 08:21 PM
We bid welcome to the new Kaz Patafta.

I thought that was Ribs?

Retro Jet
23-01-2013, 08:24 PM
I know it's spelt differently but back in the day the Xenon pinny kicked butt.
I hope this bloke does too....

"Welcome to Xenon. Ow Owww!!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_D7VER0_5o

The Dunster
23-01-2013, 09:38 PM
think this signing pretty much guarantees we won't keep both jobe and zad next year.

I'm not that confident. I think they will both leave the Jets.

q-money
23-01-2013, 09:51 PM
zaxxon > zenon

la bazzle
23-01-2013, 10:02 PM
love him, la baz's 6th favourite non-jet in the a-league

Now i need a new number 6

Zico
23-01-2013, 10:06 PM
think this signing pretty much guarantees we won't keep both jobe and zad next year.
See you Jobe. Should have happened years ago.

q-money
23-01-2013, 10:07 PM
zico in the thread, it's Z mania

seldom
23-01-2013, 10:10 PM
zachary what I was thinkin

au revoir
24-01-2013, 12:24 AM
I know it's spelt differently but back in the day the Xenon pinny kicked butt.
I hope this bloke does too....

"Welcome to Xenon. Ow Owww!!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_D7VER0_5o

this is my favourite post so far for 2013. pinnies, fvck yea.

Jeterpool
24-01-2013, 07:45 AM
I'm not that confident. I think they will both leave the Jets.

It wouldn't be surprising if this happened. We have form for this sort of thing in the past, however not so recently.

snake
24-01-2013, 07:52 AM
xenon caravella?

we argon loose

/chem cat

snake
24-01-2013, 08:05 AM
will xenon arc up and provide the light to illuminate our team?

not sure he'll be on the same wavelength as the rest of them - there will be a large spectral mismatch.

belchardo
24-01-2013, 08:23 AM
he sure is a noble character.

WolfMan
24-01-2013, 05:10 PM
Perhaps Gary feels he will Fe out the kinks.....

(I know this makes little, to no sense, but bugger it)

My2BobsWorth
24-01-2013, 05:23 PM
Perhaps Gary feels he will Fe out the kinks.....

(I know this makes little, to no sense, but bugger it)

It certainly doesn't plumbum

boz-monaut
24-01-2013, 05:26 PM
can we at least have one thread on this forum that doesn't descend into chemistry?

snake
24-01-2013, 05:50 PM
fluorine uranium carbon potassium
oxygen fluorine fluorine

q-money
24-01-2013, 06:01 PM
http://periodictabledesign.com/wp-content/uploads/s002/fluorine.jpghttp://periodictabledesign.com/wp-content/uploads/s002/silver.jpghttp://periodictabledesign.com/wp-content/uploads/s002/sulfur.jpg

The Dunster
24-01-2013, 08:44 PM
http://resource.mmgn.com/pwnage/user_13508_9NNSDDC6.jpg

parksey
24-01-2013, 09:54 PM
nerds

OmeletteDuFromage
24-01-2013, 10:31 PM
No Science jokes?

K

WolfMan
24-01-2013, 10:57 PM
fluorine uranium carbon potassium
oxygen fluorine fluorine

:lulz:

seldom
24-01-2013, 11:27 PM
so I take it he'll be playing in shirt 54

seldom
25-01-2013, 12:33 AM
In all honesty think this guy might do orrrrite for us

Jeterpool
25-01-2013, 07:27 AM
so I take it he'll be playing in shirt 54

Shirt 3 - taken Tiago's old number

hawk
03-02-2013, 10:05 AM
coupla nice touches. looked ok

stopper2
09-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Zenon coping some criticism in the general game thread but I thought he done well tonight against WSW. Offers more than Brillante who I think is better suited at RB or LB. I see him and Rubes forming a good combination in the middle. Our bigger concerns are the CB pairing (just bring back Reegz) and who to play #10 (definitely not Ryan).

militiamon
10-02-2013, 02:28 AM
Mr Average.

Blackmac79
10-02-2013, 10:09 AM
looked ok up until he did something.

Jetmaster
10-02-2013, 11:10 AM
I think we should cut him some slack - will take a couple of games to click. At least he went looking for the ball, though the tactics meant he had to drop back to about 25 metres out to get it !

De-Champ
10-02-2013, 12:05 PM
Give him 6-8 weeks

My2BobsWorth
10-02-2013, 05:56 PM
This is the Jets, he'll be out next week. Coach/manager clutching at straws now, interesting to see next weeks line up. As for cutting Zenon some slack, I'll just say one word. Bridgey.

Newieutd
10-02-2013, 06:23 PM
How the **** did this guy start ahead of Brilliante

seldom
10-02-2013, 08:28 PM
In regards to stability, surely the jerks are the laughing stock of the A league. We seem to change players for no apparent reason yeah

selassie
11-02-2013, 09:43 AM
he will get found out, not the type of player who you can rely on to have a majority of your play go through.

brown will be better in the long run.

BodyNovo
11-02-2013, 09:53 AM
i liked his hair.

honestly i really didn't see what he offered compared to jobe.

composed on the ball yes, but his decision making at times was awful, he put himself into difficult decisions as well calling for the ball when he had wsw players all around him. probably tried to hard to make an impression.

where the hell is kanta ffs.

380
11-02-2013, 09:58 AM
In regards to stability, surely the jerks are the laughing stock of the A league. We seem to change players for no apparent reason yeah

Yep. Just one cock up after another at a management decision making level. Just hope that frustration is not taken out on the playing group. They are a far better squad than results would suggest and capable of great things with someone else calling the shots IMO.

Thomas477
11-02-2013, 05:17 PM
Yep. Just one cock up after another at a management decision making level. Just hope that frustration is not taken out on the playing group. They are a far better squad than results would suggest and capable of great things with someone else calling the shots IMO.

Maybe if the "good" players we have learn to ****ing cross and pass to our players, plus manage to find the net we'd be sweet. FFS the amount of crosses that go straight to the opposition is hideous and you can't tell me that GvE is telling the players how to kick a football.....

380
11-02-2013, 06:33 PM
Now you are just being silly Thomas.

Sure your not a gypo and your defence of GVE is to ensure our continued slide to oblivian.

MFKS
11-02-2013, 06:45 PM
Maybe if the "good" players we have learn to ****ing cross and pass to our players, plus manage to find the net we'd be sweet. FFS the amount of crosses that go straight to the opposition is hideous and you can't tell me that GvE is telling the players how to kick a football.....

GVE couldn't possibly be responsible for teaching Neville the art of hitting the defender in the back 99% of the time he attempts to whip a cross in to the box.

GVE ain't that good of a coach

Jeterpool
15-02-2013, 10:15 PM
Excellent performance tonight. Bossed the midfield and turned them inside out.

Long may it continue. Definitely my MoM.

stopper2
15-02-2013, 10:32 PM
The headlines tomorrow no doubt will be about golden boy Bridgey but in terms of making the side tick and effectiveness I would place Caravella's and Taggart's performances above Bridges. No surprise with Zenon though as he has been good value the past few seasons with both GCU and Adelaide last season.

Tommyjet
15-02-2013, 10:37 PM
The headlines tomorrow no doubt will be about golden boy Bridgey but in terms of making the side tick and effectiveness I would place Caravella's and Taggart's performances above Bridges. No surprise with Zenon though as he has been good value the past few seasons with both GCU and Adelaide last season.

Spot on

He was also players player or similar at both gcu and Adelaide

Grimario
15-02-2013, 10:39 PM
He was brilliant tonight. First few touches I thought "aww shit, here we go again" but after he made a second shit pass, he then chased it down and won it back and was pretty much flawless from then on.

MFKS
15-02-2013, 10:48 PM
Bloke played well. Not getting carried away as Heart put our centre mids under minimal pressure and I am sure he won't get the freedoms Aloisi offered up to us that often

One aspect that really impressed me with his play was occasionally he would run 10-20 metres through the guts with the ball at speed and try to ignite our attack. Jobe never done that

militiamon
15-02-2013, 10:58 PM
Mr Very Good.

Raw Boned Youngster
15-02-2013, 11:15 PM
great name Pete, but shouldn't it be Johnny****. I had a friend who had an unfortunate name... Bruce Penis. he was always getting hassled about his name at school so I suggested he change it. years later I ran into him and he thanked me for my advice. he said he changed his name and things were much better. I asked him what he changed it to and he said ' Steve Penis'

la bazzle
16-02-2013, 03:15 AM
Lol Pete such a vaginal discharge ..... Hated how well regz played

BodyNovo
04-03-2013, 12:23 PM
agree with MFKS in other thread, really missed this bloke yesterday. Rubez needs him as well, as the bloke was doing all the running.

brilliante is not a central midfielder for me, much prefer him at rb.

hopefully he is not the injury proned type.

pudy
04-03-2013, 03:15 PM
Anyone know whether he will play on friday? God we need him

Jeterpool
04-03-2013, 03:18 PM
Anyone know whether he will play on friday? God we need him

Herald said doubtful

hawk
04-03-2013, 06:56 PM
Herald said doubtful

ahhhhhhh faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr....

militiamon
04-03-2013, 07:06 PM
Watching the replays of the last few games has made me realise how good this guy has been for us. So sharp on the turn, maintains possession at all costs. I think him and Jobe would have worked well together in midfield.

NewcastleForLife
05-03-2013, 08:24 AM
He's what has been missing, thought gary should've played him as a #10 when we first signed him but now I think Gary was onto something (a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess) as he's that good link between defence and attack we've been missing. Always tries to receive the ball from defence and turn and move forward, instead of just trapping it and playing it backwards as his only option. We missed him big time on the weekend, couple that with Zads having his worst game all season, it's no wonder we lost so badly.

militiamon
12-10-2013, 01:38 AM
Watching the replays of the last few games has made me realise how good this guy has been for us. So sharp on the turn, maintains possession at all costs. I think him and Jobe would have worked well together in midfield.

Take back everything I said about him. Terrible tonight.

Tactics didn't help him, but he also f***ed up big-time twice.

Grimario
12-10-2013, 06:53 AM
In his defense, think Birraz, aliens and Gallaway were the only ones who didn't have a **** up of some sort. No one else's mistakes lead to goals though. Disc race.

GazFish35
12-10-2013, 07:15 AM
I thought he was gret till he got the card. Then he was horrid.

hawk
12-10-2013, 10:12 AM
cant win the middle when he spends most of the game covering our useless backs. our forwards were hiding so no outlet there.
our youth is a yr older, no more wiser

Retro Jet
12-10-2013, 01:32 PM
ZC's reaction after the 2nd goal. He really KNOWS he's f'd up.
At least he chased back all the way to try to fix his error....which is more than others in that squad would do.
Watch from the f'k up to where he finally ends up on the ground. I gotta give him that.
Not defending his game tonight though. Cringeworthy on many occcasions.

Tommyjet
12-10-2013, 03:13 PM
cant win the middle when he spends most of the game covering our useless backs. our forwards were hiding so no outlet there.
our youth is a yr older, no more wiser

He covered the backs alright, he knocked chapman over after he had defended well against adp and decided to give adp the ball back so he could get his token goal

selassie
13-10-2013, 02:27 PM
did poorly but brilliante didn't impress when he was on.

militiamon
13-10-2013, 02:45 PM
did poorly but brilliante didn't impress when he was on.

I reckon Brillante started out well, he was offering us a lot more in attack than Caravella was. He made that great run down the right wing and whipped in a great cross. Just after that though he made two errors in midfield that were just as bad as Caravella's, but didn't lead to goals obvs.

hawk
13-10-2013, 06:41 PM
He covered the backs alright, he knocked chapman over after he had defended well against adp and decided to give adp the ball back so he could get his token goal

loled at that. sums up the whole game

Premy
04-01-2014, 09:38 PM
Just so you all know where to show your love.

Jeterpool
04-01-2014, 09:46 PM
Just so you all know where to show your love.

*crickets*

hawk
04-01-2014, 10:08 PM
cara's a champ, your in tha stands lololol

Premy
04-01-2014, 10:14 PM
cara's a champ, your in tha stands lololol

Lol next to you

Jeterpool
04-01-2014, 10:20 PM
I thought he did quite well

Football is a game of opinions. Mine is different to yours. I felt he left our defence exposed by failing to provide an outlet to playing out from the back, which make up the base of our game plan

terry
04-01-2014, 10:24 PM
he played ok, nothin spesh

380
04-01-2014, 10:28 PM
He stinks

Thomas477
04-01-2014, 10:30 PM
Seen faster thinking in o/35s Friday comps.

Seems to take 5 more touches and 5 more seconds than anyone else does.

hawk
04-01-2014, 10:43 PM
Lol next to you
too right im a hundred already.


Seen faster thinking in o/35s Friday comps.
why thank you thomo :)

parksey
05-01-2014, 02:57 PM
should never have started ahead of kanta

Tommyjet
05-01-2014, 05:16 PM
Kanta is where it's at. Zenon and zads don't click as neither willing to unselfishly sit while the other goes forward and neither have the positional awareness to play the '6' role like kanta does

hawk
06-01-2014, 12:35 AM
Kanta is where it's at. Zenon and zads don't click as neither willing to unselfishly sit while the other goes forward and neither have the positional awareness to play the '6' role like kanta does

I have to concur with this :(

joel31
06-01-2014, 06:46 PM
Caravella finding his rhythm

Monday, 6 January 2014 5:07 PM

Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets midfielder Zenon Caravella says he is focused on making a positive impact for the Jets over the coming weeks after making his first starting appearance since Round 2 against Perth Glory at Hunter Stadium on Saturday.

After starting in central midfield in the Jets’ opening two matches of the 2013/14 campaign, Caravella has been used primarily as an impact player off the bench in recent weeks.

The 30-year-old former Gold Coast United and Adelaide united midfielder was recalled to Newcastle’s starting XI for the Jets’ 1-0 loss to Perth Glory on Saturday.

Caravella said his 58 minutes on the pitch against the Glory would give him a good platform to build on for the coming weeks.

“I thought I was solid, but not anything special,” Caravella said.

“I just want to get out there, get minutes and find my rhythm, because I haven’t continual game time.

“If I can get some rhythm I’m sure I’ll be able to contribute to the team.”

Caravella is likely to get the opportunity for more playing time while his Jets teammates Josh Brillante, Connor Chapman, Andrew Hoole and Adam Taggart are away on international duty at the AFC U-22 Championships in Oman.

Caravella admitted he had been frustrated by his limited game time so far this season, but was focused on making a big impact over the next few weeks starting this weekend against Melbourne Victory.

“It’s frustrating for any player not to be playing, but that’s what the competition within the squad is for, to push players along,” Caravella said.

“You have to come to training and put the effort in still and keep going.

“Now that the other boys have gone away, it’s time for the people that weren’t playing to step-up and try to fill the gaps.”

Caravella said the Jets will take confidence from their 2-1 win over Melbourne Victory at AAMI Park earlier this season.

“We played them in Melbourne earlier in the season and did very well against them there and won, so there’s no reason we can’t do that here at home on Friday,” Caravella said.

“They’ll definitely be feeling the pressure now after the last game they played (a 3-0 loss at home to Brisbane Roar).

“There’s a lot of pressure on them and it will be interesting to see how they rebound from that.

“I just think we need to keep structured. We’ve been very well structured in the last 10 games, we’ve had great discipline and we stuck to the game plan.”

With the Jets sitting in sixth spot at the halfway mark of the season, Caravella believes it is a crucial period coming up for the Club as they look to nail down a spot in the Hyundai A-League Finals Series.

“You can lose your spot really quick,” Caravella said.

“It’s very congested there in the middle of the ladder and with two or three wins, you’re right back up there, but a couple of losses and the pressure is on again.

“It’s like that every year, it’s very up and down in the A-League, but if you keep consistent, you can climb up the ladder pretty quickly.

“We have to get points, especially after losing to Perth because we missed out on three valuable points there.

“It’s up to us and we’ve got the team to do it, so we just have to get stuck in on Friday and go from there.”


http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Caravella-finding-his-rhythm/82454

furns
06-01-2014, 06:58 PM
hasnt he heard that Rhythm is a dancer?
Or that the bird is the word?

lquiquer
06-01-2014, 08:51 PM
Bird bird bird .... Bird is the word

sammydog
06-01-2014, 10:22 PM
Seen faster thinking in o/35s Friday comps.

Seems to take 5 more touches and 5 more seconds than anyone else does.

They are fighting words, Lets not be too harsh on the Friday O/35's.

front2
06-01-2014, 10:32 PM
FFfs he has had no game time and would be rusty as a salty nail. Like it or not tha Z will get his chances in the next few weeks. The next four weeks needs some Zen in it.

Jeterpool
07-01-2014, 08:53 AM
They are fighting words, Lets not be too harsh on the Friday O/35's.

Yet it took you 2 days to get to a reply Sammy...:lol:

sammydog
07-01-2014, 10:10 AM
Yet it took you 2 days to get to a reply Sammy...:lol:

Yeah, well............shut up.

Jeterpool
07-01-2014, 10:38 AM
Yeah, well............shut up.

:roflz:

MFKS
26-01-2014, 01:04 AM
Just watched a replay of the Gypos first goal.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/match-centre/match-stats?matchid=HAL2013-141603CCMNEW

What the **** was this bloke doing?? Ran away from the ball instead of closing the bloke down. Matter of fact made every effort to get out of the way of Caceres. FFS

Tommyjet
26-01-2014, 07:32 AM
Just watched a replay of the Gypos first goal.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/match-centre/match-stats?matchid=HAL2013-141603CCMNEW

What the **** was this bloke doing?? Ran away from the ball instead of closing the bloke down. Matter of fact made every effort to get out of the way of Caceres. FFS

I've noticed him doing this consistently this season

Hunter403
26-01-2014, 01:41 PM
the Kotara over 35's is about his level

stopper2
26-01-2014, 02:01 PM
the Kotara over 35's is about his level

Considering our "strikers" aren't doing their job of "scoring goals" I think it is a bit rough to single out other players for criticism or ridicule.
They scored a couple of bombs and the turning point of the match was when Heskey missed that sitter which would have made it 2-1. Yet hardly anyone is bagging him out.....WHY???

Jetmaster
26-01-2014, 02:44 PM
I reckon the miss may have done Heskey a bit of good - he was certainly more fired up second half.

q-money
26-01-2014, 02:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ieGbZji_4

caravella

militiamon
26-01-2014, 02:48 PM
rofl

nailed it

stopper2
26-01-2014, 04:00 PM
I reckon the miss may have done Heskey a bit of good - he was certainly more fired up second half.

Great logic.....it's okay for our marquee playing as a No. 9 to miss sitters because it will get him "fired up"!!!:wacko:

MFKS
26-01-2014, 04:02 PM
Great logic.....it's okay for our marquee playing as a No. 9 to miss sitters because it will get him "fired up"!!!:wacko:

Stop spreading lies our Marquee wears No 29 and didn't play thanks to some elaborate plot involving the Chinese Gypos and HSG

Hunter403
26-01-2014, 04:35 PM
Considering our "strikers" aren't doing their job of "scoring goals" I think it is a bit rough to single out other players for criticism or ridicule.
They scored a couple of bombs and the turning point of the match was when Heskey missed that sitter which would have made it 2-1. Yet hardly anyone is bagging him out.....WHY???

My criticism is based on continued poor option selection, the inability to move the ball quickly, the almost pathological need to turn a circle with the ball and the fact that he does not track back or effectivley close down the opposition when they have the ball. He is not A league standard. We needed quick transition last night and he cannot provide it. We nneded to close off their shooting options quickly and he did not help. Yes, others were poor, particularly Galloway and Pepper, but his perormance has been like this continually. I don't doubt he is trying but he is just not good enough. The same for Galloway.

MFKS
26-01-2014, 04:36 PM
My criticism is based on continued poor option selection, the inability to move the ball quickly, the almost pathological need to turn a circle with the ball and the fact that he does not track back or effectivley close down the opposition when they have the ball. He is not A league standard. We needed quick transition last night and he cannot provide it. We nneded to close off their shooting options quickly and he did not help. Yes, others were poor, particularly Galloway and Pepper, but his perormance has been like this continually. I don't doubt he is trying but he is just not good enough. The same for Galloway.
At least half a dozen truth bombs by my counts

turbojetfireV8
01-02-2014, 10:50 PM
ZC alright tonight but not sure MOTM was a fair call (or maybe no-one else was having much impact??). Bit worried have seen the best of Ruben of late, we need him a bit more fired up (maybe Griff could have a word in his ear, seemed to work when he told Williams what he thought of his judgment tonight)

MFKS
01-02-2014, 10:52 PM
ZC alright tonight but not sure MOTM was a fair call (or maybe no-one else was having much impact??). Bit worried have seen the best of Ruben of late, we need him a bit more fired up (maybe Griff could have a word in his ear, seemed to work when he told Williams what he thought of his judgment tonight)

I thought our centre mids lost control of the game in the second half. How this bloke got MOM is beyond me.

Galloway had a better game. Taylor was immense as per usual

sammydog
01-02-2014, 11:01 PM
Regan was up there for me. Caravella was very much improved though. Everyone looked more empowered to move forward and take players on.

Good signs.

seldom
01-02-2014, 11:03 PM
Reagz best player on the pitch

Zico
01-02-2014, 11:06 PM
Reagz best player on the pitch
+1

howardyou
01-02-2014, 11:21 PM
Must remember we are still learning to not play the GVE way. Old habits (negativity) die hard. Zenon was pretty good without creating that one cracking play.

Pico
01-02-2014, 11:48 PM
regz easily best of the jets was every where even did a better job at officiating than the refs, roundabout was serviceable at best.

joel31
02-02-2014, 12:22 AM
Caravella was a lot more purposeful and effective today but in the second half he seemed to drift towards his dwelling on ball self again

Dainnan
09-02-2014, 08:03 PM
Though Caravella looked pretty good going forward for the second week in a row and actually made a few pretty good interceptions in the first half. Was pretty anonymous in the second half though and god damn he is pretty useless defensively (apart from the aforementioned interceptions).

I feel like it would be working quite well if he had Kantarovski or a Kantarovski like player behind him at the moment.

Pico
09-02-2014, 08:36 PM
still don't think he's good enough for a starting spot, not an attacking mid and can't sit deeper as he can't defend. constantly running into his own team mates and running away from attackers it's why the pissants got rid of him, obviously they saw GVE & Middleby coming, well played pissants well played.

militiamon
09-02-2014, 10:12 PM
Shit. Why do we have a small-ish, attacking midfielder playing as a defensive midfielder? Every mistake he makes can be put down to the fact that he isn't a good defensive mid.

Bring back Pepper to the centre of midfield, surely people still remember him playing there a season or two ago and him actually doing a great job.

pv4
09-02-2014, 10:13 PM
Bring back Pepper to the centre of midfield, surely people still remember him playing there a season or two ago and him actually doing a great job.

2 goals in Melbz :cool:

We need Kanta back

Pico
09-02-2014, 10:39 PM
Shit. Why do we have a small-ish, attacking midfielder playing as a defensive midfielder? Every mistake he makes can be put down to the fact that he isn't a good defensive mid.

Bring back Pepper to the centre of midfield, surely people still remember him playing there a season or two ago and him actually doing a great job.

its too late for peepz he's been reverse pinto'd GVE has broken him and now Zane in his wisdom is playing him as a winger. poor bloke looked so promising when he burst on the scene in central mid, energy of zad with more Kanta like passing.

interesting stat on the coverage too, hill pointed out we have the worst passing rate of the league, so much for GVE high pressing possession passing football.

take heskeys money and spend half of it boosting the head coaches wage and go find a good os manager spend the rest on the emerging jets TD, note this should not be GVE or any other HAL recyclables.

Jeterpool
10-02-2014, 07:48 AM
I think our midfield needs an overhaul (sure a lot of our squad does too). We have no real specialists but an lot of people who can do an average job across all elements of midfield.

Kanta is who I would say is our only specialist in the number 6 role. We need a number 10 and not give a shit if he tracks back or not, like Hernandez or Carrusca. That leaves one spot and I'd give that to Brillante.

If our midfield starts to pick itself up then perhaps our defence won't have to be doing as much chasing back and scrambling and our forward line might get a bit of service.

Pico
10-02-2014, 09:00 AM
I've said it before, we have a first team made up of a majority of bench players, flexible players who can fill a number of spots to do a serviceable job. Most teams in the league have a few of these players due to the squad sizes in the HAL, we have like 9 or 10 of them.

plague
10-02-2014, 09:15 AM
By the way the Z man has once again shown his defensive steel by shoving Brilliante out of the way to give Fatty Hernandez a clear shot for his first goal.
FFS.

Jeterpool
10-02-2014, 09:17 AM
By the way the Z man has once again shown his defensive steel by shoving Brilliante out of the way to give Fatty Hernandez a clear shot for his first goal.
FFS.

He got an assist for that

belchardo
10-02-2014, 10:24 AM
By the way the Z man has once again shown his defensive steel by shoving Brilliante out of the way to give Fatty Hernandez a clear shot for his first goal.
FFS.

had a giggle about that defensive effort.

regan did a great "run straight past the man" defensive effort for the third goal as well.

coastiehater
10-02-2014, 10:36 AM
sh*t player. needs a hair cut.

front2
20-03-2014, 11:16 PM
sh*t player. needs a hair cut.


Analysis?

leftrightout
21-03-2014, 07:29 AM
Analysis?

Its all good captain obvious, ill handle this one.

Sh*t player. had a hair cut.

jim wallis
21-03-2014, 08:36 PM
top bloke

seldom
22-03-2014, 12:36 AM
good player imo

belchardo
22-03-2014, 06:50 PM
Great cross.

hawk
16-04-2015, 12:21 AM
On behalf of Zenon, Stubbins you're a ****

Retro Jet
16-04-2015, 12:57 AM
On behalf of Zenon, Stubbins you're a ****

Another one bites the dust.
So, no more of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fI7zm7RXHs

Maybe he was inspired by this....the Swindon Roundabout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ClwohD4Ug
Maybe Mass Luongo could interpret it for him. Swindon's ground is right next door to this nightmare.

Robbo
16-04-2015, 07:06 AM
Lots of love for Caravella on social media. Zads lads said it best when he said Caravella deserves a club that appreciates his football. I wish the lad well and as many of you know I'm a huge fan. If you haven't already read this do. Classy bloke
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/jets-dump-key-midfielder-caravella#hSjcuKHUDmCaReLZ.01

MFKS
16-04-2015, 07:09 AM
Lots of love for Caravella on social media. Zads lads said it best when he said Caravella deserves a club that appreciates his football. I wish the lad well and as many of you know I'm a huge fan. If you haven't already read this do. Classy bloke
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/jets-dump-key-midfielder-caravella#hSjcuKHUDmCaReLZ.01

More importantly your alright and haven't jumped off Stockton Bridge overnight

Praise Griff

Robbo
16-04-2015, 07:25 AM
More importantly your alright and haven't jumped off Stockton Bridge overnight

Praise Griff
Jeeez. Defending a bloke that clearly has a lot of fans other then me doesn't make me suicidal when hes released.it just means some of you have no clue (that's MY sarcasm now)

BodyNovo
16-04-2015, 08:30 AM
good guy, half decent player.

if we have better intentions fair enough, but he would have been a handy squad player.

stopper2
16-04-2015, 10:45 AM
Once again it's clearly apparent that a football decision has been made based not on what the player can offer the club (and Zenon clearly demonstrated this year he still has a lot to offer) but whether to player fits in with the Muppet's "with me or against me" mentality. As soon as Caravella knocked back the captaincy offer and spoke out along with Jeronimo and Neville after the sackings about their distaste of the whole situation, his time at this club was doomed.
The Muppet wants "yes men" he doesn't want players with character who will tell him the truth if they feel it is in the best interests of the team. This is what the "moving forward" philosphy is based on, it's not about playing for the club and the shirt, it's about playing for a "dictator" out of fear that if you don't "listen and do what I say"....you won't be playing at this club.
Once again as a club we are being set up for mediocrity and failure!!!

belchardo
16-04-2015, 10:55 AM
best of luck Z. you'll carve up whatever lower league you end up in. he'll be doing roundabouts for fun, rather than cause there's no one to pass to.

Hunter403
16-04-2015, 01:28 PM
Last season, when he had Taggart and Heskey, there was a time when he transitioned us from defence to attack quickly and played what I thought was his best football. When we have bugger all up front he reverts to his nickname.

Put him in a team with some ability and he would be a great asset. Really wasted in our team. One of the few players in the league with really good close touch.

Part of me is sad to see him go, but I think he will be a lot better in a better team. Good for him and whoever gets him. He will come back to haunt us.

Interesting that his interview alludes to Stubbins carrying grudges when he talks about refusing the captaincy. Not surprised.

stopper2
16-04-2015, 02:12 PM
Last season, when he had Taggart and Heskey, there was a time when he transitioned us from defence to attack quickly and played what I thought was his best football. When we have bugger all up front he reverts to his nickname.

Put him in a team with some ability and he would be a great asset. Really wasted in our team. One of the few players in the league with really good close touch.

Part of me is sad to see him go, but I think he will be a lot better in a better team. Good for him and whoever gets him. He will come back to haunt us.

Interesting that his interview alludes to Stubbins carrying grudges when he talks about refusing the captaincy. Not surprised.

Agree, our best period last season coincided with Caravella coming back into the side to partner Rubes. I thought their contrasting styles worked well together and it seemed that when he got an injury and was out we went off the boil again towards the end of the season.
The fact is we have nearly half the player roster still to fill, we know what Caravella provides the team, we can still keep a player like him who is getting towards the end but still provides experience and back-up to the midfield. The reality is who are we going to get???....who of any quality is going to come to this basketcase of a club while Tinkler and his Muppet pull the strings???

The Dunster
16-04-2015, 04:02 PM
Is it time to start up the "Bring Jessie Pinto home thread ?

stopper2
16-04-2015, 07:18 PM
Is it time to start up the "Bring Jessie Pinto home thread ?

Not even remotely funny!

plague
16-04-2015, 07:51 PM
Is it time to start up the "Bring Jessie Pinto home thread ?

5 star post.

Bring him home Tinks.

Him and Stu would carve the joint up.

furns
16-04-2015, 08:00 PM
Is it time to start up the "Bring Jessie Pinto home thread ?

Maybe he can get Pinto'd by two different Jets coaches

MFKS
17-04-2015, 07:13 AM
Muppet says Zenon Caravella’s decision to reject the club captaincy had no bearing on the decision to release him at the end of the season.
The Jets announced on Wednesday that they would not re-sign the 32-year-old midfielder, a veteran of 147 A-League games, 45 of them for Newcastle.

In an interview with the FourFourTwo website that day, Caravella had queried whether his fate was sealed the moment he spurned Muppets’ offer of the captain’s armband.

The Jets needed a new skipper in January after owner Nathan Tinkler abruptly dumped five senior players for allegedly leading a mutiny against Muppet
Muppet initially approached Caravella, who is understood to have said in no uncertain terms that he was not interested.

Ben Kantarovski also declined, prompting the Jets to rotate the captaincy between a hastily formed leadership group of Taylor Regan, Ben Kennedy, Daniel Mullen and Jacob Pepper.

Caravella told FourFourTwo ‘‘it just didn’t feel right’’ to take over as skipper, given he sympathised with his former colleagues.

‘‘I felt if I had accepted the captaincy I would be accepting watching my teammates have their contracts torn up,’’ he said.


‘‘Rejecting the captaincy wouldn’t have gone down well, and I don’t blame [Muppet] for holding that against me, if that’s his reason for not re-signing me. ‘‘But then he called me a shining light to media and to myself on several occasions, so I’m not really sure what the real reasoning is.

‘‘He told me personally that he has too many midfielders, but he has 13 spots available on the roster. Maybe after what happened this year the relationship is irreparable. Either way, again, it’s his decision.’’

Muppet told the Newcastle Herald he regarded the captaincy as an ‘‘irrelevant’’ issue.

‘‘Absolutely, 100 per cent, no problem whatsoever,’’ Muppet said. ‘‘At the time, Zenon said he wanted to focus on his own game, and he did a magnificent job, I have to say.

‘‘There’s no angst from the club or myself towards that.

‘‘That’s irrelevant and nothing to do with whether we were going to re-sign Zenon or not.’’
Muppet said Caravella, who has played in 20 games this season, was cut simply because the Jets had enough midfielders.

‘‘It’s just a surplus of players in the position that he plays,’’ he said.

‘‘We’ve decided we want to be more creative in the front third and try and get more goals.’’

Caravella trained on Thursday but was not selected for Friday night’s clash with Sydney FC at Hunter Stadium.

The Jets said on their website that Caravella (ankle) and Kantarovski (groin) ‘‘haven’t recovered sufficiently from their injuries to earn selection for Friday’s fixture’’.


Caravella said he had attracted interest from ‘‘a couple’’ of interstate A-League teams but was disappointed to be leaving the Jets.

‘‘My family is settled here. I have really learned to call Newcastle home in many ways,’’ he told FourFourTwo.

‘‘The fans have been very good to me, and not just to me, to us as a club. They are as hungry for success as we are. ‘‘I hope things turn around mostly for them – they’ll be there long after the players and coaches are. They deserve a bit of glory.’’

Judging by comments from fans on social media, his sentiments were reciprocated.

Muppet said Caravella, who hopes to be fit for next week’s final-round game against Brisbane, ‘‘needs to be thanked for his contribution’’.

‘‘He’s done a very good job for us since he came back,’’ he said. ‘‘We wish him all the very best.’’



I am calling Bullshit

Griffo
Kew
Carney
Madaschi
Flores
Celevski
Jeronimo
Steele
Packer
Lundy
Zane
Young
Birraz

After all those blokes have either left or been shafted I struggle to believe Muppet carries no grudges

Tommyjet
17-04-2015, 07:17 AM
As if the muppet would openly admit that he only wants yes men and that he's getting rid of a bloke because of a grudge.

MFKS
17-04-2015, 07:19 AM
As if the muppet would openly admit that he only wants yes men and that he's getting rid of a bloke because of a grudge.

I hear what you saying.

I just am calling him on his Bullshit though

cobra23
17-04-2015, 09:20 AM
love caravella,
This decision is bullsh1t..
what other mids do we have at the moment?
unless we pay big bucks for a couple of big signings there would not be anyone decent who would want to come to this circus of a team.

Good luck where you go caravella, hope what ever team you play for rips us apart and you get man of the match.

hawk
17-04-2015, 09:47 AM
I hear what you saying.

I just am calling him on his Bullshit though

As the player in question its in his best interests to be positive when dealing with people who are scum.

There's plenty of others to spill the truth

MFKS
17-04-2015, 09:55 AM
As the player in question its in his best interests to be positive when dealing with people who are scum.

There's plenty of others to spill the truth

Problem is our players are nothing but sheep.

They are being bullied and not standing up for themselves and the club.

It is ridiculous that one of the few still left at the club who does stand up to the Muppet gets no support from his colleagues.

The players have the power to be his downfall yet show no solidarity except for self interest

stopper2
17-04-2015, 10:11 AM
Problem is our players are nothing but sheep.

They are being bullied and not standing up for themselves and the club.

It is ridiculous that one of the few still left at the club who does stand up to the Muppet gets no support from his colleagues.

The players have the power to be his downfall yet show no solidarity except for self interest

You are spot on Member, only I feel that window of opportunity to act was back in January when things came to a head. The four players who showed support for their 5 sacked colleagues were let down by the rest of the team who like you said put self interest before carrying out the course of action which they had all agreed to only days earlier.
We now have a situation where there is a culture of fear at the club amongst the playing group, this can't in the long-term be a constructive environment to work under.

Footyhead
17-04-2015, 10:18 AM
Is Scott Neville contracted for next year ? I bet he'll be the next to go, not being a yes man ?

Grimario
17-04-2015, 10:24 AM
Is Scott Neville contracted for next year ? I bet he'll be the next to go, not being a yes man ?

I think he is but I reckon he will be told he can look elsewhere. Agent is probably ringing around as we speak.

Could see him making the short move down the F3 or joining the other half of the Jets squad at WSW.

MFKS
17-04-2015, 10:47 AM
I think he is but I reckon he will be told he can look elsewhere. Agent is probably ringing around as we speak.

Could see him making the short move down the F3 or joining the other half of the Jets squad at WSW.

Have it on good authority that Neville is no fan of Muppet at all.

He is under contract though. With him feeling the way he does can see him leaving early though

Footyhead
17-04-2015, 10:47 AM
I am calling Bullshit

Griffo
Kew
Carney
Madaschi
Flores
Celevski
Jeronimo
Steele
Packer
Lundy
Zane
Young
Birraz

After all those blokes have either left or been shafted I struggle to believe Muppet carries no grudges

Add to that list Goodwin and you have a team that would shit all over the current team.

MFKS
17-04-2015, 10:48 AM
You are spot on Member, only I feel that window of opportunity to act was back in January when things came to a head. The four players who showed support for their 5 sacked colleagues were let down by the rest of the team who like you said put self interest before carrying out the course of action which they had all agreed to only days earlier.
We now have a situation where there is a culture of fear at the club amongst the playing group, this can't in the long-term be a constructive environment to work under.

Thanks Stopper

Just Planting Seeds............................................. .......... :rof:

Grimario
17-04-2015, 11:03 AM
Have it on good authority that Neville is no fan of Muppet at all.

He is under contract though. With him feeling the way he does can see him leaving early though

Him and Carney...

stopper2
17-04-2015, 01:11 PM
Thanks Stopper

Just Planting Seeds............................................. .......... :rof:

Yeah, can't see the seeds growing at all when the soil is so toxic!!!

cobra23
17-04-2015, 03:02 PM
looking back now,
steele made the best decision of his life leaving after 2 games..
the bloke knew what this muppet was like and left before he painted a tattoo of his fist on the muppets chin..
he would not have been a yes or no man.. just straight to the point..

Frodo
17-04-2015, 03:03 PM
You are spot on Member, only I feel that window of opportunity to act was back in January when things came to a head. The four players who showed support for their 5 sacked colleagues were let down by the rest of the team who like you said put self interest before carrying out the course of action which they had all agreed to only days earlier.
We now have a situation where there is a culture of fear at the club amongst the playing group, this can't in the long-term be a constructive environment to work under.

Ok, since when did people start believing that players get some sort of say into how a club is run? What makes you guys honestly believe that a full team revolt would have assured that the coach was sacked? Tinks holds every ounce of power in these situations and there isn't a damn thing the players can do about it, i love the blokes for stepping up and telling Stubbins he was a Muppet but any sensible person knew that by doing so that the players were putting their careers on the line.

So each player has 2 choices, follow his team mates and get sacked from the team (either straight away or at the end of the season) or put their heads down and just play football. Remember that this is a job for these guys, they have to put food on the table at home and young players don't want mutiny on their resume.

Personally i've got no bad feelings towards the players who stayed. Caravella especially, he has been great over the last couple of months. he will probably end up at the Marinators and come back to make us look stupid.

Thomas477
17-04-2015, 03:08 PM
If all 23 players, or whatever at the time, had said that they wanted Muppet gone, it would've been incredibly tough to ignore.

Tinks could get away with sacking 5 of them because they still had enough for a team. You get the entire squad against him, then there's only 1 solution. The senior guys were left out to dry by the rest of the squad.

GazFish35
17-04-2015, 03:08 PM
He doesn't need to come back with CCM to make us look stupid.
We do a good job of that ourselves.

lil_masi
17-04-2015, 05:08 PM
Kat caravella just said on twitter that zenon was just not selected tonight. He is not injured. Disgraceful

Tommyjet
17-04-2015, 05:12 PM
Ok, since when did people start believing that players get some sort of say into how a club is run? What makes you guys honestly believe that a full team revolt would have assured that the coach was sacked? Tinks holds every ounce of power in these situations and there isn't a damn thing the players can do about it, i love the blokes for stepping up and telling Stubbins he was a Muppet but any sensible person knew that by doing so that the players were putting their careers on the line.



So each player has 2 choices, follow his team mates and get sacked from the team (either straight away or at the end of the season) or put their heads down and just play football. Remember that this is a job for these guys, they have to put food on the table at home and young players don't want mutiny on their resume.

Personally i've got no bad feelings towards the players who stayed. Caravella especially, he has been great over the last couple of months. he will probably end up at the Marinators and come back to make us look stupid.


Agree a lot with this. I don't particularly like my current boss but if I were to get sacked I would be up shit creek. I'd either have to move away to find similar money or step down a lot of rungs to stay around here. Therefore I got no problem with players nuckling down and looking after their job. They may not get the same deal elsewhere. They might love living here.

Grimario
17-04-2015, 05:13 PM
Kat caravella just said on twitter that zenon was just not selected tonight. He is not injured. Disgraceful

It's okay though, the decision to release has nothing to do whatsoever with him declining the captaincy and being one of the few to show some backbone. Stubbins doesn't hold grudges, at all.

Bon
18-04-2015, 06:42 PM
Kat caravella just said on twitter that zenon was just not selected tonight. He is not injured. Disgraceful

Yeah, he was at the game too.. My old-boy saw him walking past Bay 55 and yelled out to him asking how his injury was, and Zenon turned around going "what injury?"..
I feel for the bloke..

westjet
18-04-2015, 07:26 PM
Yeah, he was at the game too.. My old-boy saw him walking past Bay 55 and yelled out to him asking how his injury was, and Zenon turned around going "what injury?"..
I feel for the bloke..

Thought I heard the commentators say last night that he was told he wont be selected for final game as well. Not the greatest player but yet another senior player who played for the town and fans that has been treated like shit thanks to the muppets.

GazFish35
18-04-2015, 07:38 PM
Made even more of a mockery by Hoole continuing to get game time.

hawk
18-04-2015, 07:47 PM
If all 23 players, or whatever at the time, had said that they wanted Muppet gone, it would've been incredibly tough to ignore.

Tinks could get away with sacking 5 of them because they still had enough for a team. You get the entire squad against him, then there's only 1 solution. The senior guys were left out to dry by the rest of the squad.

correct, many a manager has been sacked for losing the dressing combined with pathetic results.

He should have been fed to the sharks ages ago. comparing this to an office job is a stretch

MFKS
18-04-2015, 08:33 PM
Made even more of a mockery by Hoole continuing to get game time.

But he has a good player agent.


Same bloke is working miracles to get Gallagher picked every week

Getting Hoole selected should be a piece of piss

howardyou
20-04-2015, 01:58 PM
Yeah, he was at the game too.. My old-boy saw him walking past Bay 55 and yelled out to him asking how his injury was, and Zenon turned around going "what injury?"..
I feel for the bloke..

Yep we also gave him a bit of an ovation at the time.