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Jeterpool
30-01-2013, 12:51 PM
Don't like the sport, don't even realy understand it, but....

I hope Geale thumps Mundine tonight, even just to shut him up briefly.

belchardo
30-01-2013, 01:25 PM
+1

but i'm afraid mundine will win and will yell even louder.

MFKS
30-01-2013, 01:26 PM
Basically 2 blokes of similar weight stand opposite one another and using their closed fists attempt to strike one another with punches.

All punches must land above the belt line or be deemed a foul.

To win the fight you either knock your opponent unconscious, batter your opponent at a furious rate the ref steps in and stops it or if the fight goes the distance have landed more punches than your opponent to win on the judges scorecards.

Hope that helps you out Jeterpool

sh10
30-01-2013, 01:29 PM
i wish i could go into a coma and wake up when mundine is dead, seriously the bloke is worse than the plague. get off my fsn you khunt

furns
30-01-2013, 01:35 PM
bit harsh

plague seems an ok fella

Jeterpool
30-01-2013, 01:47 PM
Basically 2 blokes of similar weight stand opposite one another and using their closed fists attempt to strike one another with punches.

All punches must land above the belt line or be deemed a foul.

To win the fight you either knock your opponent unconscious, batter your opponent at a furious rate the ref steps in and stops it or if the fight goes the distance have landed more punches than your opponent to win on the judges scorecards.

Hope that helps you out Jeterpool

Thanks Member

seldom
30-01-2013, 01:57 PM
sh10 v Plague...undercard

cobra23
30-01-2013, 02:14 PM
I hope mundine wins....
Hate his attitude but love watching him fight...
mundine in 8 rounds

Zico
30-01-2013, 02:19 PM
Hope that Mundine gets the living **** belted out of him in the first round and he gets humiliated to the point were the big mouth racist ****tard decides he will hide his head from the public for rest of time.

lil_masi
30-01-2013, 05:10 PM
Looking for a live stream for the fight tonight. Anyone got links?

Sorry didnt see the thread in the Sports Bar

lil_masi
30-01-2013, 05:24 PM
Anyone got a live stream link for the fight?

RedMexican
30-01-2013, 08:04 PM
vipsportsbox.me

MFKS
30-01-2013, 08:08 PM
You know it will be on at most pubs/clubs at approx 10pm. Won't cost anything either

plague
30-01-2013, 08:59 PM
bit harsh

plague seems an ok fella

Cheers Mr Fish.
im not a violent person, but ive just put Scozzy on my payroll.

Run at me sh10.....................

plague
30-01-2013, 09:06 PM
FWIW i dont get the Mundine hate.
Bloke is all for the cameras and the coin. he does a good job of hyping up a sport that only survives on hype.
If he gooses himself hes got to live with it. Taking him seriously makes people look just as silly.
WWE/Pantomime at its finest.
Dont care who wins. Wont watch.

sh10
30-01-2013, 09:08 PM
FWIW i dont get the Mundine hate.
Bloke is all for the cameras and the coin. he does a good job of hyping up a sport that only survives on hype.
If he gooses himself hes got to live with it. Taking him seriously makes people look just as silly.
WWE/Pantomime at its finest.

cos he acts like a complete tool, i dislike complete tools. dislike the hype, dislike wrestling etc


Dont care who wins. Wont watch.

Ditto, although I will smile a little if Mundine wins. I'll just be glad to get him out of the media for another 6 months

weston
30-01-2013, 09:11 PM
My bro has asked me if i want to go watch on hs tv.... i do.... but i've never sat and watched a boxing match before, i'm more of a UFC man. I really don't want to go and see this arsewhole win though... i hate the bloke... i'll only watch the fight to hopefully see him lose, hopefully with a knockout... problem is, if i do this.... than he wins, he carries on with this bullshit he does for attention and to get a crowd...

Mundine out

plague
30-01-2013, 09:18 PM
i'll only watch the fight to hopefully see him lose,


and thats exactly why he makes plenty of coin. hes the villain, everyone wants to see the villain get done and he plays it up. bloke is smart. he'll make a lot of money tonight and win lose or draw will probably do it all over again. good on him.

weston
30-01-2013, 09:43 PM
As i said... if i go watch.... than he wins...

He is smarter than what the shit that comes out of his mouth suggests.

lil_masi
30-01-2013, 10:15 PM
any working links?

seldom
30-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Remember a few years ago most people sayin he had no chance against Green then made him look ordinary. Think he'll have to knock Geale out, don't think he can win on points in this one. Unfortunately for Anthony he's starting to sound a little like Ali when health started gettin the better of him.Agree though he plays the hatred card to get the cash. :sparring:

weston
30-01-2013, 10:27 PM
any working links?

http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/154260_daniel_geale_anthony_mundine/

got this off my sister... have a look

Jetmaster
30-01-2013, 11:00 PM
http://www.vipboxsports.me/boxing/129863/1/daniel-geale-vs-anthony-mundine-ppv-free--live-stream-online.html

This is working much better in the last 30 mins....just clear your cache and turn off the chatbox.

Jetmaster
30-01-2013, 11:11 PM
http://www.usagoals.com/live/333779-boxing-daniel-geale-vs-anthony-mundine/watch/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/en/vivo/tv/gratis/

This is even better !

pistolpete
30-01-2013, 11:21 PM
http://www.usagoals.com/live/333779-boxing-daniel-geale-vs-anthony-mundine/watch/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/en/vivo/tv/gratis/

This is even better !

how do you get rid of the download manager thing that is blocking half the screen?

EDIT: All good it eventually went

hawk
31-01-2013, 12:22 AM
cmon aussie
http://www.anbg.gov.au/images/flags/nation/australia.gif

hawk
31-01-2013, 01:10 AM
choc starfish is the lowest of cvnts

Zico
31-01-2013, 01:23 AM
Choc the cock. Great example of how not act as a sportsman.
Hope the ****wit retires the looser he is.

seldom
31-01-2013, 01:23 AM
choc starfish is the lowest of cvnts

yep...wat a disc race he was afterwards

seldom
31-01-2013, 01:26 AM
notice hes got the fenech elbow and forehead kiss happenin these days too

q-money
31-01-2013, 01:29 AM
geale is a great boxer, the real deal, if you will.

did nae get out of second gear.

choc is a great puncher, and was a good boxer until age got the better of him as we saw tonight.

geales preparation out of this world, barely broke a sweat.

parksey
31-01-2013, 02:01 AM
disgrace choc clearly took more punches and should have won

parksey
31-01-2013, 02:01 AM
was good enough to be hit

BodyNovo
31-01-2013, 09:35 AM
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/12/14/1226537/242227-kimbo-slice.jpg

what about this bloke fighting in the undercard phwoar.

geale class in victory, mundine and his posse still probably celebrating in defeat.

Zico
31-01-2013, 09:46 AM
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/12/14/1226537/242227-kimbo-slice.jpg

what about this bloke fighting in the undercard phwoar.

geale class in victory, mundine and his posse still probably celebrating in defeat.
Kimbo Slice. The man has wrecking balls for fists.

MFKS
31-01-2013, 11:08 AM
Up the club I was at blokes were bagging the bloke Kimbo whacked saying he took a ****ing dive.

I was like get ****ed the poor blokes kidney just exploded and you want him to fight on?? FFS

seldom
31-01-2013, 01:48 PM
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/12/14/1226537/242227-kimbo-slice.jpg

what about this bloke fighting in the undercard phwoar.

Wonder if he can hold a ball up...could be our next target man.

q-money
31-01-2013, 02:34 PM
kimbo almost choked on his own dick in the first round, imagine getting knocked out by rico tubbs eh

belchardo
08-02-2013, 10:07 PM
so, apparently it's dickhead 1 boxing first tonight, then dickhead 2. go the opposition in both cases.

sh10
08-02-2013, 10:31 PM
to be fair to SBW, he may be a complete cocknose, but he's not mundine

belchardo
08-02-2013, 10:33 PM
soz, dickhead 3 followed by dickhead 2.

belchardo
08-02-2013, 10:35 PM
oh ffs. cooper knocked him out in the first round.

the fix is in.

plague
08-02-2013, 10:50 PM
soz, dickhead 3 followed by dickhead 2.
Who's dickhead 3?

(Assuming the computer thief and SBW are 1 and 2)

Buddha
08-02-2013, 11:10 PM
if SBW is going to make a big thing of this, he needs to get away from Mundine, Botha is so damn old it's bordering on the insane, Mundine has obviously decided to SBW that he will do exactly like Mundine did and fight 48 year old retired farmers from WA

RedMexican
08-02-2013, 11:10 PM
this fight is ****ing horseshit deadset

belchardo
09-02-2013, 05:23 AM
Who's dickhead 3?

(Assuming the computer thief and SBW are 1 and 2)

dickhead 3 - cooper
dickhead 2 - SBW
dickhead 1 - mundine

skippy
09-02-2013, 02:03 PM
Meant to be a 12 round title fight, finished after 10 rounds wut?

BodyNovo
27-04-2015, 01:53 PM
I know q is already querying this elsewhere, but other than Wests and panthers are any pubs showing the mayweather v manny fight

Last resort is to pay the fair to watch it at home.

q-money
27-04-2015, 02:01 PM
I know q is already querying this elsewhere, but other than Wests and panthers are any pubs showing the mayweather v manny fight

Last resort is to pay the fair to watch it at home.

mate said the stag could be a goer

plague
27-04-2015, 02:08 PM
Yes I too would like to be informed on which pubs have it.

By the way Floyd paying $1.47.
Better than bank interest my friends.

q-money
27-04-2015, 02:10 PM
floyd got this rigged so hard

plague
27-04-2015, 02:14 PM
Jewels tav and Iron Horse are definites (via the interwebs).

The Iron Horse, let's do it lads. ForeverRed and I can goanna wrestle between bouts.

plague
27-04-2015, 02:15 PM
floyd got this rigged so hard

Yup, that's why that 1.47 is so tasty.

pv4
27-04-2015, 02:16 PM
mate said the stag could be a goer

The Stag has such a small TV though. Unless they're projecting it, I don't see it being a great option.

The Dunster
27-04-2015, 03:09 PM
Boxing hasn't been the same since kids from Newton were beating up Thai taxi drivers for world titles.

Not much interest ion this one but I would hope Manny gets the job done.

q-money
27-04-2015, 03:14 PM
unless he knocks mayweather out pac has nae chance

The Dunster
27-04-2015, 04:14 PM
unless he knocks mayweather out pac has nae chance

agree.

Buddha
27-04-2015, 08:57 PM
I'm a massive Pacman fan but I can't see him beating Floyd, Manny has been scratchy in his last few fights, won a fight he should have lost, KO'ed and lost one he should have won etc. Floyd by Unanimous

General Washington will be showing it if you're keen on taking your passport with you

plague
01-05-2015, 10:46 AM
Its on at the Del.

BodyNovo
01-05-2015, 11:28 AM
was going to the wash tub than i reevaluated when i worked out the fight probably won't kickoff till 4.30pm

probably will goto the kent or the del i reckon.

hawk
01-05-2015, 11:47 AM
fmd there's so much analysis.

Jpool please take note
http://www.mightyfighter.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr-analysis/

like to see manny knock into baltimore

plague
03-05-2015, 02:30 PM
Caaaaarrrrrrnnnnn Floyd!!!!!

Jetmaster
03-05-2015, 02:31 PM
Bugger - hard to get a stable stream today.

lquiquer
03-05-2015, 02:44 PM
#teamManny

The Dunster
03-05-2015, 05:33 PM
RIP Boxing if this is the best event they can produce. MMA is ripping boxing a new one when it comes to entertainment value.

weston
03-05-2015, 08:52 PM
RIP Boxing if this is the best event they can produce. MMA is ripping boxing a new one when it comes to entertainment value.

I fell asleep in the first 2 fights. And the main event. Well yeh.

plague
03-05-2015, 09:24 PM
pretty good fight tbh.
thought Manny went way better than expected, but in no way did he get close to winning the fight.
Floyd won the first few rounds easy and stepped it up a gear in the last 3 to continually score points.
did it pretty easy in the end.

hawk
03-05-2015, 09:46 PM
easy pleased

plague
03-05-2015, 10:15 PM
easy pleased

Oh and Floyd was paying $1.55.
He wasn't the only one making bank today.

Bon
04-05-2015, 09:46 AM
RIP Boxing if this is the best event they can produce. MMA is ripping boxing a new one when it comes to entertainment value.

Yep.. Exactly..
I can't get excited for boxing after everything that UFC (and other MMA comps) have produced.. Particularly this overhyped horse-shit fight..
It's kinda like whacking off to some sort of hardcore pr0n and then having everyone to tell you to go crank it to a k-mart catalogue..
No thanks..
:rof:

BodyNovo
04-05-2015, 11:03 AM
Oh and Floyd was paying $1.55.
He wasn't the only one making bank today.

2.05 to win on points

easy money, as mayweather wasn't willing to knock him down.

was sour on the manny about the injury post fight.

parksey
04-05-2015, 01:10 PM
RIP Boxing if this is the best event they can produce. MMA is ripping boxing a new one when it comes to entertainment value.

mma is a disgrace to humanity

WolfMan
04-05-2015, 01:15 PM
pretty good fight tbh.
thought Manny went way better than expected, but in no way did he get close to winning the fight.
Floyd won the first few rounds easy and stepped it up a gear in the last 3 to continually score points.
did it pretty easy in the end.

This


mma is a disgrace to humanity

And this. Not my cup of tea, cheers.

Jetmaster
04-05-2015, 01:47 PM
I prefer good quality boxing over the new pretenders.

Problem is this fight was overhyped, not a patch of the golden years from the late sixties into the mid 80's - big fights like this happened every couple of months. In Oz we had the Fenech years then into Kostya.....been tumbleweeds since.

q-money
04-05-2015, 03:20 PM
golovkin/mayweather would be the one, but floyd will dodge it because he knows that GGG is the only bloke out there that will absolutely kill him

plague
04-05-2015, 04:21 PM
golovkin/mayweather would be the one, but floyd will dodge it because he knows that GGG is the only bloke out there that will absolutely kill him

Golovkin is not human.

plague
04-05-2015, 04:25 PM
Also re:MMA.
Not my bag personally but people dis on Floyd for being defensive/technical but are happy to watch grappling and bouts get decided by a choke hold in the first 20sec.

There's good and bad examples in every sport.

plague
04-05-2015, 04:27 PM
I prefer good quality boxing over the new pretenders.

Problem is this fight was overhyped, not a patch of the golden years from the late sixties into the mid 80's - big fights like this happened every couple of months. In Oz we had the Fenech years then into Kostya.....been tumbleweeds since.

Ain't no one complained about getting value for money when Kostya dropped Zab on his ass in the 2nd round back in the day.

MFKS
04-05-2015, 09:08 PM
Issue is these blokes don't fight these days
1 fight a year or 3 fights every 2 years for the so called elite

Then they see a rival they ain't interested in putting their rep on the line until it doesn't matter. This fight needed to happen 5-6 years ago not when both are in the twilight of their careers.

q-money
05-05-2015, 12:02 AM
tbh you'd like golovkin then, bloke is taking 3-4 fights a year, just loves to fight really

WolfMan
05-05-2015, 07:29 AM
This fight needed to happen 5-6 years ago not when both are in the twilight of their careers.

Don't think you'd find too many in opposition to this statement.

Not saying boxers shouldn't be able to choose their opponents, but something should have been done to make this happen much earlier.

The Dunster
05-05-2015, 11:12 AM
Also re:MMA.
Not my bag personally but people dis on Floyd for being defensive/technical but are happy to watch grappling and bouts get decided by a choke hold in the first 20sec.

There's good and bad examples in every sport.

You just described everything that makes MMA the sport to watch.

UFC81 - Lesnar vs Mir and Mir is on the canvas being absolutely smashed by Lesnar.

Lesnar loses concentration for a split second and next thing you know Mir has slapped on a knee bar and forced Lesnar to submit. I cannot understand how anyone would not be impressed by that.

When a boxer is on the canvas they stop the fight.

MFKS
05-05-2015, 12:04 PM
You just described everything that makes MMA the sport to watch.

UFC81 - Lesnar vs Mir and Mir is on the canvas being absolutely smashed by Lesnar.

Lesnar loses concentration for a split second and next thing you know Mir has slapped on a knee bar and forced Lesnar to submit. I cannot understand how anyone would not be impressed by that.

When a boxer is on the canvas they stop the fight.

That is defo a pro for UFC.

Nearly all boxing fights as soon as one bloke establishes superiority over another it is 99.9% a one way procession to a unanimous points win if a KO doesn't occur before hand to the bloke on top. Very rare to see a bloke under the pump swing something and change the course of the fight in an instant. Sure it does happen but not often

UFC though a fight can change suddenly and the bloke under the pump can turn the tables in an instant whether that be from a strike or a grappling submission move and either get back some control and fight on his terms or finish it.

plague
05-05-2015, 06:25 PM
You just described everything that makes MMA the sport to watch.

UFC81 - Lesnar vs Mir and Mir is on the canvas being absolutely smashed by Lesnar.

Lesnar loses concentration for a split second and next thing you know Mir has slapped on a knee bar and forced Lesnar to submit. I cannot understand how anyone would not be impressed by that.

When a boxer is on the canvas they stop the fight.

Yeah no doubt bouts like that appeal to many and would be both entertaining and dramatic. A perfect blend for sport.

But for every one of those there's prob a Ronda Rousey 14sec main event title fight that gives people fuel to counter your argument.

As I said, I don't hate the sport, it's just not for me.

There's people out there who think soccer is boring too (mostly Jets fans....but still).

q-money
05-05-2015, 11:02 PM
thing is rousey is worth watching imo, she is a deadset weapon even if she stops everyone in the first round

you'd ****en hate sumo

plague
05-05-2015, 11:09 PM
thing is rousey is worth watching imo, she is a deadset weapon even if she stops everyone in the first round

you'd ****en hate sumo

Rousey, pfffffffttt.
I've seen Fast n Furious 7.
Michelle Rodriguez totally kicked her ass.

plague
05-05-2015, 11:12 PM
Sumo tho, count me in.
Been wanting to see it live for ever.
Been to Nippon a bunch of times and yet to time it right.
Mate who's married to a Japanese lass went to the big event at the Tokyo Dome, has never stopped raving.

WolfMan
06-05-2015, 07:38 AM
Mate who's married to a Japanese lass went to the big event at the Tokyo Dome, has never stopped raving.

DazzaInJapan by any chance? That guy was good value

The Dunster
06-05-2015, 11:45 AM
Sumo tho, count me in.

Me too. Bit disappointed though that nobody uses the E-Honda flying HeadButt move. [Suupaa Zutsuki]

militiamon
06-05-2015, 09:07 PM
DazzaInJapan by any chance? That guy was good value

Haha WolfMan, I was about the ask the same thing before I saw your post.

plague
06-05-2015, 11:16 PM
DazzaInJapan by any chance? That guy was good value

Nah.
I've still only legit met one person on the Foz and that was that Marcus dude from Melbourne.

MFKS
06-05-2015, 11:27 PM
Nah.
I've still only legit met one person on the Foz and that was that Marcus dude from Melbourne.

That's cause your always in hiding ...and my vagina is sore :(

WolfMan
17-09-2017, 03:47 PM
What a brilliant fight, utterly ruined by disgraceful, corrupt judgement. GGG won that fairly comfortably on points for mine, judge that scored it 8 points in Canelo's favour needs their licence revoked

The Dunster
17-09-2017, 05:53 PM
What a brilliant fight, utterly ruined by disgraceful, corrupt judgement. GGG won that fairly comfortably on points for mine, judge that scored it 8 points in Canelo's favour needs their licence revoked

It's getting so bad now that the WWE appears to be more legit than pro boxing.

PC14
18-09-2017, 12:26 PM
I thought GGG won it as well. I wasn't confident though. Thought it was tight.

Was a brilliant fight. Time flew. Went the same distance as the fight before it, which was an utter bore fest.

Thought Diego De La Hoya was brilliant in one of the other undercard fights.

plague
19-09-2017, 12:22 PM
judge that scored it 8 points in Canelo's favour needs their licence revoked

The judges name is Adelaide Byrd.

We have a whole thread dedicated to stuff like this.

It's no accident.
It's the new world order.

Feel free to come over to our thread and join the resistance.

Just make sure you're woke before you walk in there though. There's some shit that will make you shudder.

hawk
14-12-2017, 12:11 AM
Horno falling for the thug trap

GeraldRogers
08-02-2018, 12:01 AM
boxing is not a simple sport, with its philosophy. One of the most important factors for a boxer's victory is food. I say this from my own experience. Before training, I tried to eat properly and with the right diet, usually ate fast-paced food. He experimented with food and picked up food on the blog ''Food and Recipes (http://normanfranklin.hatenablog.com/)'', looking at the number of proteins and carbohydrates. Rest is important for the body, sleep is important.

Premy
30-01-2019, 11:42 PM
Should be a pretty big week in the Heavyweight division with announcements on future fights regarding AJ, Wilder, Fury and Whyte.
AJ has probably missed his April 13th Wembley date as Whyte has played hardball on his split. Fury V Wilder rematch goes to purse bid on the 5th of February so an agreement between them is imminent because if that goes to purse bid all hell will break loose amongst all the promoters.

What I think will happen:
Fury V Wilder - probably in the US somewhere most likely Brooklyn, Wilder won't want to go to the UK.

AJ V Miller - Heavyweight title defense at MSG. AJ hasn't cracked the US market yet, what better way to make a debut in the US then against a New Yorker at MSG.

Whyte V Breazeale - Breazeale is the WBC mandatory so the winner of this get a shot at the winner of Fury V Wilder. I think Whyte is looking at it as rather than fight AJ now I'll get the WBC belt and then fight AJ, collect 2 big pay days. Weather or not he can get past Breazeale and then Fury or Wilder is a different question but he probably backs himself to be able to.

It's awesome to see the Heavyweight division back to the strength it should be. All this and then you throw in the rumor that Klitschko is possibly making a comeback, it's getting really juicy.

Frodo
31-01-2019, 01:12 AM
Should be a pretty big week in the Heavyweight division with announcements on future fights regarding AJ, Wilder, Fury and Whyte.
AJ has probably missed his April 13th Wembley date as Whyte has played hardball on his split. Fury V Wilder rematch goes to purse bid on the 5th of February so an agreement between them is imminent because if that goes to purse bid all hell will break loose amongst all the promoters.

What I think will happen:
Fury V Wilder - probably in the US somewhere most likely Brooklyn, Wilder won't want to go to the UK.

AJ V Miller - Heavyweight title defense at MSG. AJ hasn't cracked the US market yet, what better way to make a debut in the US then against a New Yorker at MSG.

Whyte V Breazeale - Breazeale is the WBC mandatory so the winner of this get a shot at the winner of Fury V Wilder. I think Whyte is looking at it as rather than fight AJ now I'll get the WBC belt and then fight AJ, collect 2 big pay days. Weather or not he can get past Breazeale and then Fury or Wilder is a different question but he probably backs himself to be able to.

It's awesome to see the Heavyweight division back to the strength it should be. All this and then you throw in the rumor that Klitschko is possibly making a comeback, it's getting really juicy.


Wilder and Fury have a verbal agreement to take the next fight to England, nothing official tho. Which would set up a trilogy fight in the US.

Premy
31-01-2019, 07:34 AM
Wilder and Fury have a verbal agreement to take the next fight to England, nothing official tho. Which would set up a trilogy fight in the US.
A boxer's word means nothing, it's all down to the promoters. Fury V Wilder 2 will be at the Barclays Center in New York, that's Wilder's hometown.

The only way Fury V Wilder is in the UK is if it goes to a purse bid a Frank Warren backed by BT Sports win the rights. Fury V Wilder 3 only happens if Fury wins, as Wilder will have a rematch clause. Regardless the winner will have to defend the WBC title to Breazeale (or possibly Whyte if he fights Breazeale and wins) before Fury V Wilder 3 can happen.

The Dunster
31-01-2019, 04:52 PM
A boxer's word means nothing, it's all down to the promoters. Fury V Wilder 2 will be at the Barclays Center in New York, that's Wilder's hometown.

The only way Fury V Wilder is in the UK is if it goes to a purse bid a Frank Warren backed by BT Sports win the rights. Fury V Wilder 3 only happens if Fury wins, as Wilder will have a rematch clause. Regardless the winner will have to defend the WBC title to Breazeale (or possibly Whyte if he fights Breazeale and wins) before Fury V Wilder 3 can happen.

No mention of Anthony Joshua. is he out of calculations now ?

Premy
31-01-2019, 05:10 PM
No mention of Anthony Joshua. is he out of calculations now ?

Anthony Joshua(AJ) and Eddie Hearn have been trying to get Fury or Wilder for the April 13th date booked for Wembley, both were offered 60/40 in favor of AJ.
Fury (More so Frank Warren rather than Fury) wanted 50/50 and Hearn told him get the WBC belt and we'll talk about 50/50.
Wilder by all reports hasn't even responded to the initial offer from AJ and Hearn.

The WBC have since mandated the Fury V Wilder rematch. It goes to purse bid on the 5th of February if a deal hasn't been reached by both parties beforehand.

Premy
04-02-2019, 01:42 PM
The Heavyweight division just keeps getting juicier.

Now the Undisputed Crusierwight Champion Oleksandr Usyk is getting shopped around to Heavyweights. There is talk of him fighting Joseph Parker or Alexander Povetkin for those of you who don't know who Povetkin is. He is the bloke AJ last fought so he is no mug Heavyweight, his only 2 defeats were to AJ and Klitschko in 36 fights.
If Usyk can step up the weight division and beat Povetkin or Parker it will be a huge statement of intent from Usyk.

The Dunster
04-02-2019, 02:49 PM
Joshua vs Miller might be happening as well. it looks a pretty one sided contest but nobody thought Douglas would KO Tyson either.

The Heavyweight division hasn't been this good for nearly 50 years. Good times indeed.

Premy
04-02-2019, 08:45 PM
Joshua vs Miller might be happening as well. it looks a pretty one sided contest but nobody thought Douglas would KO Tyson either.

The Heavyweight division hasn't been this good for nearly 50 years. Good times indeed.

AJ vs Miller is happening.

It's the only fight AJ has got at this stage after Whyte turn him down for a couple of reasons. I heard the % of the split for the rematch if Whyte won is what turned Whyte away. Whyte and AJ have the same promoter so I feel for Whyte, apparently AJ offered a 70/30 split for the title shot but wanted 50/50 for the rematch if Whyte won. Whyte wasn't having any of that he wanted 70/30 in his favor for the rematch which you can't argue with in my opinion.

Because of that Whyte is going down the path of becoming WBC mandatory because in a voluntary defense you can negotiate a rematch. In a mandatory defense you don't have to negotiate a rematch but you get less of the split. That way if he gets to mandatory and beats AJ, AJ is then playing by Whyte's rules. You have to admire Whyte he is playing the long game and his backing himself to be successful which is going to require taking a lot of low paying risk rather than taking a big pay check right now.

Premy
04-02-2019, 09:11 PM
Expect an announcement on Fury V Wilder within days.
WBC mandated that a deal be made by tomorrow or the purse goes to bid with a mandatory 60/40 split in favor of Wilder.

Premy
06-02-2019, 01:43 PM
WBC announced that the Fury V Wilder rematch purse deadline bid will be extend by a week.

In other Heavyweight news Matchroom Boxing are trying to line up a huge Heavyweight card for Dillian Whyte's next fight.
With the undercards being Joseph Parker V Dereck Chisora and Dave Allen V Lucas Browne (Aussie who was the former WBA regular champion) https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport.com/sport/boxing/487940/eddie-hearn-dereck-chisora-vs-joseph-parker-dillian-whyte/amp/

Premy
13-02-2019, 12:16 PM
Still no news from Fury V Wilder 2.0 if it goes to purse bid tomorrow it could be very interesting.

In other news WBC have mandated Whyte V Breazeale for the WBC interim title. Meaning that the winner of Fury V Wilder has to fight the winner of Whyte V Breazeale or they vacate the WBC Belt.

Premy
16-02-2019, 12:03 AM
For those following along at home to my conversation with myself, latest Heavyweight news.

AJ V Miller: Locked in for June 1st at MSG.

Fury V Wilder 2.0: Purse bid has been postponed again, no timeframe on the extension this time.

Whyte V Breazeale: Their is a shit tonne of Boxing politics involved in the organization of this fight. It will happen, when and where is going to be extremely interesting.

goaliepersempre
16-02-2019, 01:48 AM
reading interested keep it up.....

Premy
19-02-2019, 04:43 PM
Tyson Fury signed a reportedly $50m deal with ESPN and Top Rank Boxing today. This has huge implications for the Heavyweight Boxing division and it makes the prospect of an AJ Vs Fury fight very difficult.

In simple terms.
AJ has a deal with Sky TV in the UK and DAZN in the US.
Fury now has a deal with BT Sports in the UK and ESPN in the US.
What does that mean? It means that now if these 2 were to fight none of the previously mentioned networks would have access to exclusive broadcasting.
This has Boxing politics written all over it, Top Rank Boxing are desperate to hold on to power in the US. This is a Hail Mary to keep PPV Boxing alive as DAZN is a subscription lead broadcaster and they are making big waves in the US market. Things are going to get a lot messier before we see AJ Vs Fury Unfortunately.

Whilst it is a very sensible Business decision from Fury, to me this is more proof that Fury wants nothing to do with AJ. AJ has the whole Heavyweight Division running scared.

goaliepersempre
19-02-2019, 06:50 PM
Yeah read about the deal yesterday.... interesting... Wilder also has deal with Showtime/Fox yeah?

This is exactly what boxing doesnt need is the politics... they do so much so well and then politics... they should just god damn fight...

Thats what made the UFC so big but unfortunately that politics is creeping in there aswell.

Premy
19-02-2019, 11:02 PM
I thought Wilder had a deal with Showtime/Fox but apparently not, Wilder has come out a said he is a free agent. Apparently he is only advised by Shelly Finkel who works with Showtime.

I've got no idea how this is all going to shake out, it's going to be really interesting if it goes to purse bid. If it goes to purse bid I wouldn't be surprised if Matchroom Boxing(Eddie Hearn) goes hard at it with the support of DAZN.

Premy
27-02-2019, 02:57 PM
Fury ducks Wilder.
Fury V Wilder 2.0 is officially off, what happens next is now a little clearer but also a little more unknown.

So let's start this off with the WBC rankings.
Champ- Deontay Wilder
1- Dillian Whyte
2- Tyson Fury
3- Luis Ortiz
4- Dominic Breazeale (For some reason Breazeale is the mandatory and not Whyte)
5- Adam Kownaki
6- Joseph Parker
7- Alexander Povetkin

Ok so the fall out from Fury deciding to reject a mandated fight from the WBC, he will most likely be dropped from the rankings. So...

-Wilder will most likely be forced to fight his mandatory Breazeale which is what I think will happen, unless a deal can be made to make the undisputed fight with AJ. If the undisputed deal can be made then Wilder's next fight will mostly likely be a tune up against a no body whilst AJ fights Jarrel Miller.
-Whyte is left out in the cold for a bit, will he fight Breazeale, WBC mandated Whyte V Breazeale for the interim WBC title. But that may change now as Breazeale will probably push for the Wilder fight as he is the mandatory. I'm really not sure where Whyte will go next.
-Fury. Where do I start. He has signed a 5 fight deal with ESPN. I can't imagine him jumping straight into a big fight as ESPN will want to build up his profile in the US. I can't see him fighting anyone in the top 20. This is just a guess but someone like Gerald Washington, Washington has a bit of a profile due to his NFL days and he is ageing so he would be a good cherry pick to build Fury's profile in the US.
-Ortiz is close to 40, he has been called out by a few people as I feel some people see him ripe for the picking and they want him on his resume, it's funny because no one wanted to go near him 3-4 years ago. I think the obvious fight would be Ortiz V Kownacki.
-Breazeale is going to push hard for the Wilder fight, if he can't get that then it would have to be Whyte for the WBC Interim title.
-Kownacki is a Polish born New Yorker, he is looking for that fight to put him in with the next level of Boxers. A record of 19-0 his last win was a convincin K/O performance against Gerald Washington and if he can get Ortiz on his resume then that could propel him closer to a title shot.
-Parker was trying to get a May date in the UK against Dereck Chisora but that seems to have fallen through, where he goes now I don't know. Rumors are that he could fight Fury next but I can't see Fury going for that.
-Povetkin, Povetkin V Usyk is all but locked in for the 18th of May. Me personally I am pumped for this fight, purely to see how Usyk will go in the Heavyweight division.

If Oleksandr Usyk can get past Povetkin then he would probably be one win away from AJ. Usyk and AJ are both in the Matchroom Boxing camp so it would be a easy fight to make. In my opinion if Usyk can handle the step up then AJ V Usyk is far far far bigger than AJ V Wilder, Fury or Whyte especially if AJ is undisputed by then. It would be the first 4 belt heavyweight champion V the first 4 belt crusierweig champion

Premy
20-04-2019, 03:50 PM
Big Baby Miller pops twice, 1 in a blood test and 1 in a piss test.

Eddie Hearn has insisted that AJ's dance at the Garden will still go ahead but who will be his Partner.

Whyte- he has a date booked in for early July and AJ Vs Whyte 2.0 at the Garden doesn't make sense, that fight will come and it will be at Wembley.
Wilder- Wilder already ducked US$100million to do 2 fights with AJ, he doesn't want that dance. He is also scheduled to fight Dominic Breazeale in 4 weeks.
Fury- Signed a huge deal to be excluse to ESPN, this is a DAZN card it can't happen no matter how much people want it. Also Fury is already booked in to fight Tom Swartz a nobody German.
Ortiz- Eddie Hearn and AJ want Ortiz, Ortiz has been quoted by "a insider" that he wants it too. However the PBC, Ortiz management agency have publicly said it's to short notice. I hope it's Ortiz.
Micheal Hunter- WHO??? Hunter looks like the favorite to get it, Hunter is a former Cruiserweight who has had 2 fights at Heavyweight winning both of them. His an American with a record of 16-1, his 1 defeat was to Usyk at Cruiserweight. Hunter just signed on to Eddie Hearns Matchroom Boxing so the fight should be easy to make.

What an absolute fool Jarrel Miller is. US$8million pay day gone down the drain.

The Dunster
21-04-2019, 12:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBphddLd4Ho

plague
21-04-2019, 12:16 AM
This Khan v Crawford stink seems like it will be worth a look yeah?

Crawform should touch him up pretty good through.

Premy
21-04-2019, 01:15 AM
This Khan v Crawford stink seems like it will be worth a look yeah?

Crawform should touch him up pretty good through.

I'm not to sure, if Khan can keep his focus and Box Crawford rather than looking for the K/O then he could cause an upset.
Coming back down to Welterweight after the Alvarez fight Khan has looked good.

Don't get me wrong Crawford is rightfully the favorite but his got his work cut out for him.

Premy
21-04-2019, 09:26 AM
Also side note on the Heavyweight scene, Lucas "Big Daddy" Brown got beat overnight to Dave Allen.

The Dunster
21-04-2019, 10:00 AM
Age looks to be catching up with Browne. He should get out of the game before he gets seriously hurt.

Premy
02-05-2019, 05:05 PM
Ok so Kahn V Crawford was a bit of a fizzer.
However this weekend should be alright with Canelo V Jacobs, do yourself a favor and do your research on Danny Jacobs.
This could be one of the biggest fairytale story's in the history of Boxing, Danny Jacobs is lucky to be walking let alone Boxing.


On to AJ's next opponent, for those those living under a rock. Luis Ortiz turned down 14 times his biggest payday to fight AJ, his biggest payday to date is $500,000 he that he got to fight Wilder. AJ and DAZN with Matchroom Boxing offered Ortiz $7million for the June 1st date, you have to love Boxing politics sometimes.
So in comes Andy Ruiz Jr, Ruiz a Mexican will bring the Mexican crowd and he won't be a walk over. That's the best he can offer but he is probably the best of the rest.

Premy
05-05-2019, 03:16 PM
Canelo is putting on a defensive masterclass at the moment, so far this has been a brilliant fight.

Premy
15-05-2019, 10:02 PM
We finally get to see one of the top 5 Heavyweights fight this weekend, Wilder V Breazeale for the WBC Heavyweight title.

In other Heavyweight news, Uysk V Takam is on hold as Uysk has torn his quadricep.

The Dunster
14-11-2019, 05:03 PM
What do people think about the Barry Hall vs Paul Gallen fight ? I'd be very surprised if Hall could manage to avoid being knocked out. I think Gallen being younger, fitter, and more experienced will simply be too much for Hall to deal with. It's one thing to king hit someone on a football field it's a whole new world to do it in the ring against someone that can actually fight.
I'd like to see Hall win, but he's going to need a lot of luck.

MFKS
15-11-2019, 11:54 AM
What do people think about the Barry Hall vs Paul Gallen fight ? I'd be very surprised if Hall could manage to avoid being knocked out. I think Gallen being younger, fitter, and more experienced will simply be too much for Hall to deal with. It's one thing to king hit someone on a football field it's a whole new world to do it in the ring against someone that can actually fight.
I'd like to see Hall win, but he's going to need a lot of luck.

I don't think about it

2 Footballers jumping in the ring ain't worth watching

If I want to see a fight I want to see quality fighters in action

The Dunster
15-11-2019, 12:32 PM
I don't think about it

2 Footballers jumping in the ring ain't worth watching

If I want to see a fight I want to see quality fighters in action

Gallen is 9-0 in the ring so he's no mug.

I respect anyone that's got the ticker to give it a go - as it's not easy.

Premy
17-04-2020, 07:00 PM
Gallen is 9-0 in the ring so he's no mug.

I respect anyone that's got the ticker to give it a go - as it's not easy.

When it comes to boxing he actually is a mug.
Of his 10 fights his fought fellow NRL players, blown up cruiserweights, old men and an old AFL player. Put him in with McKean, Meehan or Browne(even Browne at 40) and he would get slaughtered, there are levels in boxing and Gallons level is that of a mug.

Jardelsimage
20-04-2020, 09:06 AM
When it comes to boxing he actually is a mug.
Of his 10 fights his fought fellow NRL players, blown up cruiserweights, old men and an old AFL player. Put him in with McKean, Meehan or Browne(even Browne at 40) and he would get slaughtered, there are levels in boxing and Gallons level is that of a mug.

correct, I think anyone who pays or even watches the shite they dish up is what you would say, not a true fan.
Gallon, Hall, SBW all the same cashing in on there supposed star status...

The Dunster
20-04-2020, 05:13 PM
When it comes to boxing he actually is a mug.
Of his 10 fights his fought fellow NRL players, blown up cruiserweights, old men and an old AFL player. Put him in with McKean, Meehan or Browne(even Browne at 40) and he would get slaughtered, there are levels in boxing and Gallons level is that of a mug.

Gallen disposed of Hopa quicker than Browne did. I wouldn't call Gallen world class but he's far from a mug.

Premy
20-04-2020, 05:26 PM
correct, I think anyone who pays or even watches the shite they dish up is what you would say, not a true fan.
Gallon, Hall, SBW all the same cashing in on there supposed star status...
It's a shame that people in Australia think that the aforementioned are "no mugs" when there is a decent pool of talented boxers in Australia. A pool of talented boxers that struggle for a payday in their applied trade and then watch the aforementioned swoop in and collect 5x, 10x sometimes 20x the payday of what these boxers can get.

What's worse is that when actual boxer's call to fight these blokes they get lowballed, it's rumored that Gallen and Hall got paid $800k for 6x2 minute rounds. However when Browne called for that fight he was only offered $100k by Gallens team, Gallen claims he wants to take boxing seriously but does the exact opposite.
It's bullshit if you ask me and the fights are nothing but a circus show.

Premy
20-04-2020, 05:30 PM
Gallen disposed of Hopa quicker than Browne did. I wouldn't call Gallen world class but he's far from a mug.

This statement shows how little you know about boxing, triangle theories mean stuff all in boxing.
Oh and Browne and Gallen both finished Hoppa in the 2nd round from memory.

The Dunster
21-04-2020, 01:44 PM
This statement shows how little you know about boxing, triangle theories mean stuff all in boxing.
Oh and Browne and Gallen both finished Hoppa in the 2nd round from memory.

It's a business and Browne is simply nowhere near as marketable as Paul Gallen or Barry Hall in Australia.
I still stand by what I said about Gallen - he's no mug. Are there better fighters out there struggling to earn a living? Yes.
But that's the case in sports, music, science... you name it. Money trumps skill.

Jetmaster
21-04-2020, 02:14 PM
Boxing - simplified by Leon Spinks (paraphrased by Richard Pryor).

"I knock muthaf***ers out".

Premy
21-04-2020, 05:44 PM
It's a business and Browne is simply nowhere near as marketable as Paul Gallen or Barry Hall in Australia.
I still stand by what I said about Gallen - he's no mug. Are there better fighters out there struggling to earn a living? Yes.
But that's the case in sports, music, science... you name it. Money trumps skill.

If his no mug then he should take fights with the likes of Mckean or Browne. His 38 years old he needs to move fast If he wants to take the sport serious and go for world titles. If that is the case he needs to get into real fights against real contenders and earn a mandatory position at one of the 4 titles. But we both know he won't be doing that, all his interested in is coming into the sport for a quick buck fighting easy opposition and leaving again. It's an embarrassment to the sport, it's no different to what Bolt done at CCM.

Mug punters will dip into boxing for 5 minutes believing all the hype from the promoters that it's a proper fight, pay to watch the fight, then bitch that boxing is shit because they paid to watch a shit fight. All whilst there is far better content being put out there from actual boxers that aren't shit and struggling to get a payday because these NRL/AFL knobs float in and out of the sport taking good money from it when they do.

What's worse is then mug punters get on a forum defending these clowns and claim they aren't mugs but the truth is they would fold if they fought anyone decent and not over the hill.

The Dunster
21-04-2020, 06:44 PM
What's worse is then mug punters get on a forum defending these clowns and claim they aren't mugs but the truth is they would fold if they fought anyone decent and not over the hill.

Gallen doesn't need any defending. He's had nine wins as a professional, and he's given fighters on the undercard to his bout with Hall an opportunity to fight before a much larger audience than they could draw on their own.

It might be unfair, it might lessen the value of the sport when ex-footballers are a bigger draw than those dedicating all they have to it - but it's the reality of how the world works.

I don't for a moment think Gallen is even close to being world class - but that doesn't make him a mug either.

Premy
21-04-2020, 08:39 PM
Gallen doesn't need any defending. He's had nine wins as a professional, and he's given fighters on the undercard to his bout with Hall an opportunity to fight before a much larger audience than they could draw on their own.

It might be unfair, it might lessen the value of the sport when ex-footballers are a bigger draw than those dedicating all they have to it - but it's the reality of how the world works.

I don't for a moment think Gallen is even close to being world class - but that doesn't make him a mug either.

So he should fight Mckean, Browne or Opelu if his no mug, yet he won't.
He is a mug when it comes to boxing and he knows it, all he wants is an easy paycheck.

"Given fighters on the undercard to his bout with Hall an opportunity"? Please stick to what you know Dunstersaur.
The Gallen/Hall fight was on the undercard, as it was a Top Rank card broadcast in the US, do you really think Bob Arum and the US care about a couple of old retired Australian sport stars. That card was going to be put on regardless of the Gallen/Hall fight happing and that was because of the Moloney brothers. Get your facts right before you talk shit.

"It's the reality of how the world works"? Actually the rest of the world laughs at us when they see these fights past as Professional fights. These type of fights happen all around the world all the time but they are white collar events and not past of as Professional fights. It's the reality of how Australia works because fools continue to clamor to see these exhibitions and fools pay to see it.

Macca
22-04-2020, 08:08 AM
I know SFA about boxing and don't pretend to, so please correct me if I'm wrong; but Gallen would be far from the first fighter to cherry pick fights that he thought he could win or thought were worth his while, right? Wasn't Mayweather accused of the same thing consistently?

Premy
22-04-2020, 10:02 AM
I know SFA about boxing and don't pretend to, so please correct me if I'm wrong; but Gallen would be far from the first fighter to cherry pick fights that he thought he could win or thought were worth his while, right? Wasn't Mayweather accused of the same thing consistently?

Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Mayweather, he certainly took a few flights that one could call a cherrypick however he was also in plenty of battles and won world title's at 5 weights. You can't do that from cherrypicks only, yes boxer's do it and they get called out when they do just like Gallen.

As I said earlier but, Gallen is 38 if he wants to take boxing serious like he said he does, then he doesn't have time to cherrypick he has to move fast. But blind Freddy can see his only in boxing for a quick buck like all of the other NRL players and very few boxing fans want to see his fights.

The Dunster
22-04-2020, 11:41 AM
I think a lot of the world laughs at why two able bodied humans would want to beat the shit out of each other for less money than the people promoting the fights.
I used to love watching TV Ringside on FTA but it seems like MMA and so on has taken over.
As much as Footballers fighting without any real chance or intention for titles is not optimal - it wouldn't really be possible unless the sport was already in trouble.

The Dunster
22-04-2020, 11:48 AM
So he should fight Mckean, Browne or Opelu if his no mug, yet he won't.
He is a mug when it comes to boxing and he knows it, all he wants is an easy paycheck.

"Given fighters on the undercard to his bout with Hall an opportunity"? Please stick to what you know Dunstersaur.
The Gallen/Hall fight was on the undercard, as it was a Top Rank card broadcast in the US, do you really think Bob Arum and the US care about a couple of old retired Australian sport stars. That card was going to be put on regardless of the Gallen/Hall fight happing and that was because of the Moloney brothers. Get your facts right before you talk shit.

"It's the reality of how the world works"? Actually the rest of the world laughs at us when they see these fights past as Professional fights. These type of fights happen all around the world all the time but they are white collar events and not past of as Professional fights. It's the reality of how Australia works because fools continue to clamor to see these exhibitions and fools pay to see it.

Good post Premy. I stand corrected.

q-money
23-04-2020, 03:36 PM
prem dog - what do you reckon of Gallen v Hunt?

would have been ace to see hunto knock gallens brain into the cosmos

pv4
23-04-2020, 07:14 PM
very few boxing fans want to see his fights.

And that isn't their target market.

Premy
23-04-2020, 10:57 PM
prem dog - what do you reckon of Gallen v Hunt?

would have been ace to see hunto knock gallens brain into the cosmos

Mid 40's MMA bloke against a League player? Not interested.

Premy
23-04-2020, 10:59 PM
And that isn't their target market.

That's fine, put on a white collar event and let them go at it. Just don't pass it off as Professional Boxing.

Alan
29-07-2020, 05:44 PM
It's a shame that people in Australia think that the aforementioned are "no mugs" when there is a decent pool of talented boxers in Australia. A pool of talented boxers that struggle for a payday in their applied trade and then watch the aforementioned swoop in and collect 5x, 10x sometimes 20x the payday of what these boxers can get.

What's worse is that when actual boxer's call to fight these blokes they get lowballed, it's rumored that Gallen and Hall got paid $800k for 6x2 minute rounds. However when Browne called for that fight he was only offered $100k by Gallens team, Gallen claims he wants to take boxing seriously but does the exact opposite.
It's bullshit if you ask me and the fights are nothing but a circus show.

I'm very late to this thread as I only just found it, but I couldn't agree more with this statement - having the likes of Gallen and Sonny Bill Williams before him making the money they have, while the likes of the extremely talented Maloney brothers go completely unnoticed in this country is a travesty. I dare people to take an interest in the sport, because the likes of the Maloney brothers are very, very good fighters who have made inroads into world class, but get little or no exposure.

The country needs a new break-out star, and my hope is that Tim Tsyzu can be half the fighter his old man was.

People on here may not remember Michael Katsidis, but that bloke was a big star in the USA and the UK, yet here people barely know him. What a warrior he was. And he fought them all, in their own backyard.

A

Alan
29-07-2020, 05:54 PM
Some big fights heading back to the UK next month, with Dillian Whyte vs Povetkin and the Katie Taylor vs Delphine Persoon rematch on 22nd August. Both could be belters.

In the USA, both Charlo brothers are back in September in very competitive matches. Rumour is that Canelo fights Callum Smith at super-middle too, and if that comes off, we are talking fireworks!

In case anyone is looking, the next big thing in the heavyweight division is Daniel Dubois out of London. His next fight (vs Joe Joyce) is extremely competitive, but regardless of the result I think Dubois dominates the heavys for the next decade. He's vicious.

A

q-money
29-07-2020, 11:37 PM
think horn is a sticky matchup for tszyu - markets are pretty stupid, take 2.5 horn and trade out.

tszyu 1.5 is mental

Marblehead Johnson
24-08-2020, 10:55 PM
Some big fights heading back to the UK next month, with Dillian Whyte vs Povetkin and the Katie Taylor vs Delphine Persoon rematch on 22nd August. Both could be belters.

In the USA, both Charlo brothers are back in September in very competitive matches. Rumour is that Canelo fights Callum Smith at super-middle too, and if that comes off, we are talking fireworks!

In case anyone is looking, the next big thing in the heavyweight division is Daniel Dubois out of London. His next fight (vs Joe Joyce) is extremely competitive, but regardless of the result I think Dubois dominates the heavys for the next decade. He's vicious.

A

Anyone catch the Whyte fight on Sunday morning? That Povetkin uppercut was a thing of beauty.

Big shock result, especially with Povetkin being on the floor three times before, but the result actually makes Tyson Fury vs Joshua easier to make if they both win their next fights.

Marblehead Johnson
24-08-2020, 10:58 PM
think horn is a sticky matchup for tszyu - markets are pretty stupid, take 2.5 horn and trade out.

tszyu 1.5 is mental

Sorry to say, but Horn is a poor fighter. Great result against Pac Man, but a complete anomaly - Pac Man beats him 999 times out of a 1000.

If Tszyu is going to be anything in the game he needs to stop Horn inside 8 rounds. I've liked what I have seen from Tszyu so far. I think this fight is good match-making.

Marblehead Johnson
24-08-2020, 10:58 PM
That's fine, put on a white collar event and let them go at it. Just don't pass it off as Professional Boxing.

Agree with this!

Marblehead Johnson
27-08-2020, 01:46 PM
Sorry to say, but Horn is a poor fighter. Great result against Pac Man, but a complete anomaly - Pac Man beats him 999 times out of a 1000.

If Tszyu is going to be anything in the game he needs to stop Horn inside 8 rounds. I've liked what I have seen from Tszyu so far. I think this fight is good match-making.

Oh, how I wish I put my money where my mouth is...

q-money
27-08-2020, 02:42 PM
nostradamus!

Premy
27-08-2020, 06:28 PM
In case anyone is looking, the next big thing in the heavyweight division is Daniel Dubois out of London. His next fight (vs Joe Joyce) is extremely competitive, but regardless of the result I think Dubois dominates the heavys for the next decade. He's vicious.


I'm not sold on Dubois yet, it's alright blowing out the likes of Lartey and Gorman but how will he go when his in with someone who will move a bit and swing back. Don't get me wrong his look good against that type of opponent but I need to see more from him before I call him the next best Heavyweight.
I want to see him in with the likes of Hrgovic, Yoka, Kabeyel or Shaw before I say his the best of the next crop.

Premy
27-08-2020, 06:59 PM
I dare people to take an interest in the sport, because the likes of the Maloney brothers are very, very good fighters who have made inroads into world class, but get little or no exposure.

The country needs a new break-out star, and my hope is that Tim Tsyzu can be half the fighter his old man was.

Australian Boxing is pretty exciting at the moment it just needs more eyes on it and people to give it a chance. DAZN is beta testing in Australia at the moment and they plan to launch pretty soon, so you can get some good content for a bargain price as well.

If your reading this and want to get into it but have no idea who to follow check out these guys.

Demsey McKean- Big Southpaw Heavyweight who is currently ranked in 2 of the 4 Sanctioning bodies, he'll be awkward for some of top guys in the division.
Jai Opetia- Highly ranked Cruiserweight on the verge of a World title shot.
Cesar Tapia- He was actually born in Mexico but lives out here now, he fights at 168 and he'll be star in the next few years.
Issac Hardman- Not sure if his got the skills to go to the top but his a bit of a character
Liam Parro- His blastered through the local scene, and has a lot of power for a Junior Welterweight. He'll be in some fun fights if he can get the opportunity.
George Kambosos- His next fight is a title eliminator which I have him the favorite in. Only problem is if he gets a title shot it will most likely be against this generation best fighter in Lomachenko.
Justis Huni- This guy excites me the most of everyone on this list. His not turn pro yet but when he does look out. His of to the Olympics next year and is probably our best option for a medal.

Marblehead Johnson
28-08-2020, 10:34 AM
I'm not sold on Dubois yet, it's alright blowing out the likes of Lartey and Gorman but how will he go when his in with someone who will move a bit and swing back. Don't get me wrong his look good against that type of opponent but I need to see more from him before I call him the next best Heavyweight.
I want to see him in with the likes of Hrgovic, Yoka, Kabeyel or Shaw before I say his the best of the next crop.

Dubois returns this weekend in a warm-up fight before the Joe Joyce fight someone mentioned on the foz before. I think Dubois / Joyce is 50/50 - Joe Joyce is slow as, but he's like a robot that never stops punching. If Dubois wins that, they will move him pretty quickly, but Joyce is a super tough match-up for anyone.

Yoka has looked okay, but he's being protected in France as he's their great big hope. Of the lot, Hrgovic looks the one to kick on, with Dubois very close behind.

Marblehead Johnson
28-08-2020, 10:39 AM
Australian Boxing is pretty exciting at the moment it just needs more eyes on it and people to give it a chance. DAZN is beta testing in Australia at the moment and they plan to launch pretty soon, so you can get some good content for a bargain price as well.

If your reading this and want to get into it but have no idea who to follow check out these guys.

Demsey McKean- Big Southpaw Heavyweight who is currently ranked in 2 of the 4 Sanctioning bodies, he'll be awkward for some of top guys in the division.
Jai Opetia- Highly ranked Cruiserweight on the verge of a World title shot.
Cesar Tapia- He was actually born in Mexico but lives out here now, he fights at 168 and he'll be star in the next few years.
Issac Hardman- Not sure if his got the skills to go to the top but his a bit of a character
Liam Parro- His blastered through the local scene, and has a lot of power for a Junior Welterweight. He'll be in some fun fights if he can get the opportunity.
George Kambosos- His next fight is a title eliminator which I have him the favorite in. Only problem is if he gets a title shot it will most likely be against this generation best fighter in Lomachenko.
Justis Huni- This guy excites me the most of everyone on this list. His not turn pro yet but when he does look out. His of to the Olympics next year and is probably our best option for a medal.

George Kambosos fights Lee Selby next, and I fancy Selby to outbox him easily. Selby is too slick and Kambosos looks a little one dimensional. I thought he lost his last fight in the USA, but got a promoter's decision.

McKean looks very raw - I doubt he'll crack the world scene. I do like Jai Opetia, and its a decent time to be on the cruiserweight scene with the likes of Usyk and Gassiev having moved up to heavy.

I've not seen Huni though - I'll keep an eye out!

Premy
29-08-2020, 07:54 PM
Dubois returns this weekend in a warm-up fight before the Joe Joyce fight someone mentioned on the foz before. I think Dubois / Joyce is 50/50 - Joe Joyce is slow as, but he's like a robot that never stops punching. If Dubois wins that, they will move him pretty quickly, but Joyce is a super tough match-up for anyone.

Yoka has looked okay, but he's being protected in France as he's their great big hope. Of the lot, Hrgovic looks the one to kick on, with Dubois very close behind.
Calling tomorrows fight a warm up is stretching it in my opinion Dubios will walk straight through Snijders, he'll nothing but a moving punching bag. I like Dubios but he needs to step up, you can't go from calling out Whyte to fighting the likes of Snijders.

As for Yoka I have to respectfully disagree. His just signed on to Top Rank so you can expect him to start campaign in America after his fight with Duhaupas. His also had half the amount of fights compared to Dubios and arguably his resume is better.

I like Hrgovic, just hope he doesn't fall in love with his power and forgets to box.

Marblehead Johnson
31-08-2020, 04:55 PM
Calling tomorrows fight a warm up is stretching it in my opinion Dubios will walk straight through Snijders, he'll nothing but a moving punching bag. I like Dubios but he needs to step up, you can't go from calling out Whyte to fighting the likes of Snijders.

As for Yoka I have to respectfully disagree. His just signed on to Top Rank so you can expect him to start campaign in America after his fight with Duhaupas. His also had half the amount of fights compared to Dubios and arguably his resume is better.

I like Hrgovic, just hope he doesn't fall in love with his power and forgets to box.

Dubois did indeed walk through Snijders, and I was impressed to see him go to the body. I've not seen much of that from him in the past.

Dubois is stepping up massively versus Joyce. Joyce is a tough man, and he can box and punch hard. I thought he beat Yoka in the Olympic final, which shows his not just the robot people think he is. When you look at Joyce, he's been matched much tougher than all the other prospects. Obviously age isn't on his side and that's why they are willing to put him in with all comers. Dubois taking that fight at 22 years old shows massive balls. It's a cracking fight and one I am very much looking forward to.

Yoka has been popped for drugs in the past, and he's fought no one of note to date. Dimitrenko was decent in his day but was way past his best when Yoka KO'd him, and from memory Dave Allen took their fight on about a weeks notice. Yoka was on the juice for that fight, which makes me worry about his longevity. I'd like to see him in with a Bryant Jennings or Derek Chisora in the near future to see where he is.

Premy
01-09-2020, 10:38 PM
Dubois did indeed walk through Snijders, and I was impressed to see him go to the body. I've not seen much of that from him in the past.

Dubois is stepping up massively versus Joyce. Joyce is a tough man, and he can box and punch hard. I thought he beat Yoka in the Olympic final, which shows his not just the robot people think he is. When you look at Joyce, he's been matched much tougher than all the other prospects. Obviously age isn't on his side and that's why they are willing to put him in with all comers. Dubois taking that fight at 22 years old shows massive balls. It's a cracking fight and one I am very much looking forward to.

Yoka has been popped for drugs in the past, and he's fought no one of note to date. Dimitrenko was decent in his day but was way past his best when Yoka KO'd him, and from memory Dave Allen took their fight on about a weeks notice. Yoka was on the juice for that fight, which makes me worry about his longevity. I'd like to see him in with a Bryant Jennings or Derek Chisora in the near future to see where he is.

I'm not sure the Dubios/Joyce fight happens to be honest, I would love to see it but I think Frank Warren is getting cold feet in making that fight.

From memory Yoka never popped positive for PEDs he missed 3 test in one year that's why he got suspended. Besides the boxing public seem to be ok with looking past a history of having used PEDs, just look how the boxing public clamor to Tyson Fury. Having only seven fight and names like Johnny Rice, Micheal Wallish, Dave Allen and Dimitrenko on your resume is quite impressive in my opinion.
Forget about Journeymen I want to see top prospects in with each other, let's have Dubios vs Yoka.

Marblehead Johnson
30-09-2020, 10:14 AM
Anyone catch the Charlo brothers on the weekend? They were quite impressive. I think they have flattered to deceive in the past - all mouth no trousers - but thought both looked excellent against game opponants.

I thought that Bredis was also very good versus Dorticus. The 'KO Doctor' just didn't seem to get going, and Bredis is a machine who just gets stronger as the fight goes on. Bredis ran Usyk pretty close when they met, and would now clearly be the best cruiserweight in the world with Usyk up at heavy. On that, I am very much looking forward to seeing Usyk vs Chisora. Intriguing!

The Josh Taylor fight was bizarre. The Thai bloke looked decent in the first minute, but his reaction to the body shot was shocking. I think the punch 'stole his soul' as they say - but the histrionics in leaving the ring will haunt him forever. Taylor vs Ramirez in a unification bout would be a classic. Taylor's CV is outrageous for a 16 fight pro. He'd have to be a anyone's pound-for-pound top ten now.

Premy
09-10-2020, 02:59 PM
Anyone catch the Charlo brothers on the weekend? They were quite impressive. I think they have flattered to deceive in the past - all mouth no trousers - but thought both looked excellent against game opponants.

I thought that Bredis was also very good versus Dorticus. The 'KO Doctor' just didn't seem to get going, and Bredis is a machine who just gets stronger as the fight goes on. Bredis ran Usyk pretty close when they met, and would now clearly be the best cruiserweight in the world with Usyk up at heavy. On that, I am very much looking forward to seeing Usyk vs Chisora. Intriguing!

The Josh Taylor fight was bizarre. The Thai bloke looked decent in the first minute, but his reaction to the body shot was shocking. I think the punch 'stole his soul' as they say - but the histrionics in leaving the ring will haunt him forever. Taylor vs Ramirez in a unification bout would be a classic. Taylor's CV is outrageous for a 16 fight pro. He'd have to be a anyone's pound-for-pound top ten now.

Missed the Mall fight, wasn't interested in that fight beforehand and not impressed by the result. The Mell fight was good action for a few rounds although the "KO" was very strange, would like to see how Tszyu goes against Rosario.

Marblehead Johnson
09-10-2020, 03:09 PM
would like to see how Tszyu goes against Rosario.

Tszyu has signed to fight a Kiwi, Bowen Morgan. I've never heard of Morgan, but did just check BoxRec and saw he was knocked out by Kris George a few years back. Kris George is decent, but nowhere near world class. He was taken apart by Josh Kelly a couple of years ago and completely exposed. If George is stopping Morgan, you have to think Tszyu gets it done in 4 rounds.