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MFKS
02-02-2013, 10:42 PM
Glad this bloke has really shut up any of his knockers and the BK lovers out there in recent times.


Can someone explain to me why we persisted with AVERAGE NOBODY keepers for the last few years and we could have taken this bloke off Adelaide's hands where he couldn't get a look in over Eugene.

Pearler of a save from the ADP free kick in the first half that was rifling into the top corner at a rate of knots

seldom
02-02-2013, 10:50 PM
Member ?....finally somefin we agree on :pissup:

stopper2
02-02-2013, 10:51 PM
Have to agree. Along with Goodwin, Birraz has been GVE's best 2 signings for this season. As long as he is fit, I don't see BK getting near the # 1 spot for a long, long time.

Thomas477
02-02-2013, 10:52 PM
Love Biraz :wub:

Say what you want against GvE, but he did sign this bloke. We haven't had a keeper like him since Ante's heroics against Aloisi.

Top keeper. If we can resign him for 5 years, I'll be very happy.

q-money
02-02-2013, 10:52 PM
can't catch, doesn't know when to come for balls, makes miracle saves which to be fair are great so everyone forgets his shit points

**** da member

**** da police

peace in da middle east

seaquest out

militiamon
02-02-2013, 11:02 PM
Can pull off a spectacular save or two.

Decision making and holding on to the ball could definitely do with some work, but he is young, it's his first proper season etc. I am a BK fan but on the whole Birighitti has been a good pick up for us. Even Mat Ryan had some absolute honkers in his first season but everyone seems to forget that.

sh10
02-02-2013, 11:27 PM
Did anyone else catch it on Fox on the second half? A corner came in from the right, Birraz dives and gets a fist on it and one of the Sydney strikers (not Derpo Piero, no speaka with da accent) can be heard yelling out "ahhh you KHUNT". Was so good I had to rewind and watch it again lol

pistolpete
02-02-2013, 11:34 PM
Yeah that cracked me up. Not as funny as the fury fan yelling out "root him up the arse" though

q-money
02-02-2013, 11:36 PM
^ LOL

a classic of our time

stopper2
02-02-2013, 11:43 PM
Heard that ADP gave Birraz his shirt after the game.

Rocky
02-02-2013, 11:45 PM
Always been a big big Birraz fan since he signed, give him a 5 year contract and watch him become a newy legend! Young guy with amazing talent.

la bazzle
02-02-2013, 11:52 PM
Love the bizzness

seldom
03-02-2013, 12:14 AM
Heard that ADP gave Birraz his shirt after the game.

will have trouble gettin the grass stains out

GazFish35
03-02-2013, 07:32 AM
Makes the great ones look great, but still young.

Just don't ever ever ever make him captain.

Thomas477
03-02-2013, 09:24 AM
will have trouble gettin the grass stains out

:lulz:

hawk
03-02-2013, 09:35 AM
Did anyone else catch it on Fox on the second half? A corner came in from the right, Birraz dives and gets a fist on it and one of the Sydney strikers (not Derpo Piero, no speaka with da accent) can be heard yelling out "ahhh you KHUNT". Was so good I had to rewind and watch it again lol


Yeah that cracked me up. Not as funny as the fury fan yelling out "root him up the arse" though

double lozlz. does the biznuz

scozzygt
03-02-2013, 06:52 PM
IF he didn't does what he did,(before any fkkin goose comments about grammar, its just im a bit different ffs.)
Birr, has to be just tha best we have had.
Im on the way!

pv4
03-02-2013, 10:07 PM
biraz's good qualities absolutely smash bk's ones, and biraz's shit qualities are nowhere near as bad as bk's

overall better keeper. younger. better haircut.

get all up in this biznus

sh10
03-02-2013, 10:24 PM
most importantly he's not Michael Bridges

demon
04-02-2013, 10:15 AM
Love Biraz :wub:

Say what you want against GvE, but he did sign this bloke. We haven't had a keeper like him since Ante's heroics against Aloisi.

Top keeper. If we can resign him for 5 years, I'll be very happy.


Actually press at the time in Adelaide was that it was his managers initiative and he was offered to the Jets. For me there is a difference in talent identification and a player being offered to a manager.

I'll credit the coaching staff for the signing but not for identifying him as a potential target.

Bon
04-02-2013, 10:19 AM
biraz's good qualities absolutely smash bk's ones, and biraz's shit qualities are nowhere near as bad as bk's

overall better keeper. younger. better haircut.

get all up in this biznus

This.. :wub:

BodyNovo
04-02-2013, 10:38 AM
BK

Rocky
04-02-2013, 10:41 AM
biraz's good qualities absolutely smash bk's ones, and biraz's shit qualities are nowhere near as bad as bk's

overall better keeper. younger. better haircut.

get all up in this biznus

BK has good qualities?

Grimario
04-02-2013, 10:46 AM
most importantly he's not Michael Bridges

And he is heaps better than Jobe, never see him passing it backwards.

Thomas477
04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
Actually press at the time in Adelaide was that it was his managers initiative and he was offered to the Jets. For me there is a difference in talent identification and a player being offered to a manager.

I'll credit the coaching staff for the signing but not for identifying him as a potential target.

At the end of the day, GvE made the final call on Birghitti. But it's GvE, so he can't have done anything right.

q-money
04-02-2013, 05:38 PM
orrite gary

furns
16-02-2013, 05:32 PM
classic pic doing the rounds of Newys No 1 fan getting his lips on Birraz postgame

:lol:

la bazzle
16-02-2013, 06:45 PM
Love the bloke. Up there with snake for me

My2BobsWorth
16-02-2013, 07:11 PM
Is this the pensioners forum, alzheimers thread

furns
16-02-2013, 07:41 PM
la baz - he loves the bizness


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOohBytKTU

la bazzle
21-10-2013, 10:22 PM
Birraz

Jetmaster
22-10-2013, 04:37 PM
BK - so Newy, he lives in Maitland - not the beach.

Grimario
22-10-2013, 04:46 PM
But he won't even come out and play Disc Golf when it is in Maitland. Might as well be a gypo.

plague
22-10-2013, 05:04 PM
He might just want to be closer to BK.

sh10
25-11-2013, 05:59 PM
I see Gary told him told him to shave those sideburns
http://comeyoumastersofwar.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/mattingly.png

Jeterpool
25-11-2013, 06:52 PM
I see Gary told him told him to shave those sideburns
http://comeyoumastersofwar.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/mattingly.png

:rof:

GazFish35
25-11-2013, 07:24 PM
Birraz still has some work to do to better Craig Carter as the greatest to ever play for this city.

hawk
21-12-2013, 06:23 PM
biz master

Grimario
21-12-2013, 06:26 PM
Goes good. Still got a long way to go before he is the best keeper ever to play for the Jets.

(That was M. Barbieri, btw)

Newieutd
24-12-2013, 08:32 AM
Heard one of the commentators the other night say that Gaelkovic (Adelaide) could make the Socceroos squad....If he gets in over Biraz ill be pi$$ed

Jetmaster
24-12-2013, 09:44 AM
Heard one of the commentators the other night say that Gaelkovic (Adelaide) could make the Socceroos squad....If he gets in over Biraz ill be pi$$ed

There is a reason Birraz left Adelaide - Galekovic being that reason. He has been in the top two A-League keepers the last few years.

I dispute the thread title btw.......

belchardo
24-12-2013, 09:52 AM
Also with langerak and the gypsie turd lookkng like they have two of the positions wrapped up, an older head would be handy in the squad.

Thomas477
24-12-2013, 04:50 PM
Then why not Covic then? He's played in Europe, been to a World Cup, and is one of the top keepers in the aleague!

Although he can't kick for shit.

Newieutd
27-12-2013, 08:52 AM
There is a reason Birraz left Adelaide - Galekovic being that reason

Where is Captain Obvious when you need him...

My point is that he has clearly shown he is better then Galekovic when given the chance

namwob99
27-12-2013, 11:34 AM
My point is that he has clearly shown he is better then Galekovic when given the chance

No

Grimario
27-12-2013, 11:36 AM
He certainly has a hell of a lot more upside than Galekovic who is at his peak. He won't ever be better than a good A-League keeper whereas Birraz will be leaving us before too long methinks and playing in Europe somewhere.

namwob99
27-12-2013, 11:38 AM
He certainly has a hell of a lot more upside than Galekovic who is at his peak. He won't ever be better than a good A-League keeper whereas Birraz will be leaving us before too long methinks and playing in Europe somewhere.
IMO he's a good shot-stopper but needs to take command of his box a bit more. Has been caught flapping at high balls a bit too much for my liking.

ForeverRed
27-12-2013, 12:28 PM
He can't catch, yes, good keeper but poor at catching, can't see him going any higher then ALeague standard

plague
27-12-2013, 04:08 PM
He can't catch,

Well **** me, hasn't the lad done a bang up job so far of keeping that shit a secret.
You'd think the likes of a First team coach or position coaches would pick that up.

Jetmaster
27-12-2013, 04:10 PM
Well **** me, hasn't the lad done a bang up job so far of keeping that shit a secret.
You'd think the likes of a First team coach or position coaches would pick that up.

I think it has taken alot of us time to realise he struggles with some crosses. His shot stopping has covered over his weaknesses - I do trust that Bobby C is working on this with him.

militiamon
27-12-2013, 05:49 PM
World's Best Kept Secret right here:

http://youtu.be/hzqJf6lnloM?t=6m50s

But seriously, I don't get the hate, Birraz has been great this season.

Jetmaster
02-02-2014, 08:39 PM
Bump....


I think it has taken alot of us time to realise he struggles with some crosses. His shot stopping has covered over his weaknesses - I do trust that Bobby C is working on this with him.

That was very poor last night...at least try to get to the ball.

GazFish35
02-02-2014, 09:05 PM
Partly at fault for both goals last night IMO.
He's not his usual self in recent weeks.

lquiquer
02-02-2014, 09:18 PM
Partly at fault for both goals last night IMO.
He's not his usual self in recent weeks.

And is kicking game really needs to improve... (Prob has a bit lately now we don't play from the back anymore!!) but...... maybe times to put pressure on him and bring back BK

Thomas477
02-02-2014, 10:25 PM
First goal was poor positioning by Birraz, given it went to the near post. However, if it had gone far post he had it covered easily. As for the second, could he have done better? Possibly, but it is hard when you have beachump standing in front of you.....

And I'll make the point lquiquer, weren't you one of those calling for the coach to keep faith in Brown after 28 poor performances in a row? Biraz has a couple of blues and it's the door for him? Biraz on his bad days is so much better than Kennedy.

lquiquer
02-02-2014, 10:46 PM
First goal was poor positioning by Birraz, given it went to the near post. However, if it had gone far post he had it covered easily. As for the second, could he have done better? Possibly, but it is hard when you have beachump standing in front of you.....

And I'll make the point lquiquer, weren't you one of those calling for the coach to keep faith in Brown after 28 poor performances in a row? Biraz has a couple of blues and it's the door for him? Biraz on his bad days is so much better than Kennedy.

When it comes to Brown you got the wrong bloke Thomas477.....Can't believe how many chances he had under GVE....So not sure where your statement is coming from?

Thomas477
03-02-2014, 06:23 AM
When it comes to Brown you got the wrong bloke Thomas477.....Can't believe how many chances he had under GVE....So not sure where your statement is coming from?

Apologies if it wasn't you, but the statement is still as valid. We should stick with Biraz, not drop him and muck around with his confidence, as people were saying with Brown and Goodwun. Young keepers make **** ups, but that's what we get for going young. Biraz is still the better option over Kennedy.

Jetmaster
03-02-2014, 08:19 AM
I think he needs a benching just to wake him up. He still fails to dominate his area and that will be a big concern as the other clubs start to realise this.

As for confidence, being dropped can only do the kid good as a learning experience - he needs to know the lows and how to fight for his position. BK was dropped as previous player of the year through no real fault of his own - and has been through much worse than Birraz.

halo se7en
03-02-2014, 04:14 PM
I think he needs a benching just to wake him up. He still fails to dominate his area and that will be a big concern as the other clubs start to realise this.

As for confidence, being dropped can only do the kid good as a learning experience - he needs to know the lows and how to fight for his position. BK was dropped as previous player of the year through no real fault of his own - and has been through much worse than Birraz.

That was probably GVE's reasoning when he dropped Goodwin last season. Look what's happened since.

Thomas477
03-02-2014, 05:08 PM
That was probably GVE's reasoning when he dropped Goodwin last season. Look what's happened since.

Or Brown.

GazFish35
03-02-2014, 05:35 PM
Birraz should only dropped when we play the team in second last or last assuming we beat them last time around.

Tbh he's a good enough keeper to know he ****ed up, he'll be better for those two errors.
Mooy's effort was a bullet though. Doubt he would have stopped if he was better positioned..... Though better positioning might have made Mooy alter his option.

Jeterpool
03-02-2014, 05:53 PM
Birraz should only dropped when we play the team in second last or last assuming we beat them last time around.

Tbh he's a good enough keeper to know he ****ed up, he'll be better for those two errors.
Mooy's effort was a bullet though. Doubt he would have stopped if he was better positioned..... Though better positioning might have made Mooy alter his option.

I agree with you.

MFKS
03-02-2014, 08:49 PM
I think he needs a benching just to wake him up. He still fails to dominate his area and that will be a big concern as the other clubs start to realise this.

As for confidence, being dropped can only do the kid good as a learning experience - he needs to know the lows and how to fight for his position. BK was dropped as previous player of the year through no real fault of his own - and has been through much worse than Birraz.


The bloke ****ed up the other night.

So what. Keepers **** up all the time.

You have to give them a chance for atonement.

Needless to say after ridding ourselves of the Toxin that was our manager InZane needs to actually instil belief and confidence in players. Dropping them for a **** up isn't the right way to win the support of the playing group. Backing Birraz to have a good game this weekend is the right method

If Birraz's form is continually poor then go ahead drop him but never drop a player on the back of one **** up

seldom
04-02-2014, 12:14 AM
The bloke has saved our arses many times in the past. Probs be last if it wasnt for him

la bazzle
04-02-2014, 12:46 AM
The bloke has saved our arses many times in the past. Probs be last if it wasnt for him

agreed fo sure

Thomas477
16-02-2014, 07:02 PM
Yep, definitely should have dropped him for this game.

Jetmaster
16-02-2014, 07:06 PM
Consistency is the key.....

Thomas477
16-02-2014, 07:11 PM
Consistency is the key.....

And people were advocating for Kennedy as the paragon of consistency?

GazFish35
16-02-2014, 07:31 PM
And people were advocating for Kennedy as the paragon of consistency?

Who was?

Thomas477
16-02-2014, 07:39 PM
Who was?

Wasn't that the reason people wanted to drop Biraz? Because people thought BK was more consistent? Otherwise I can't see why you would want to drop Biraz for BK?

GazFish35
16-02-2014, 08:18 PM
Thought any calls to drop him were to "wake him up" not due to bk being any more consistent.

Hunter403
16-02-2014, 08:40 PM
Saw him sculling a monster coffee in the mall on Thursday arvo. Nothing like a coffee to wake you up a bit. My kid wanted to yell "how about diving for one" but held off. Cheeky 10 year old bugger.

BodyNovo
15-03-2014, 11:59 PM
****ing disgrace

649

What a joke

GazFish35
16-03-2014, 12:04 AM
Not phased.


Mess his hair up, that'll phase him.
Tell him the Germans were watching, that'll phase him.
Tell him reegs is waiting for him at training, that'll phase him.

Thomas477
16-03-2014, 12:05 AM
****ing disgrace

649

What a joke

Embarrassing, and he is rightly copping it from all and sundry on twitter.

weston
16-03-2014, 12:13 AM
****ing disgrace

649

What a joke

"Doesn't phase me one bit".

That's worrying. If I were him, and I ****ed up like he did tonight with the first goal. I would try to get it out of my head for the rest of the game but I'd prob beat myself up for it the rest of the weekend considering we lost the game. If we had gone on to win I would not of felt so bad but still disappointed. The third goal wasn't as bad a mistake, he was at full stretch and did have a degree of difficulty about holding onto it at stretch, but it did still end in the same result.

Thomas477
16-03-2014, 12:15 AM
First one was shit, third was difficult. Wet ball at stretch at speed that bounces right before you is the worst.

Pico
16-03-2014, 12:18 AM
Maybe he's not phased as he has already signed his new German deal, just needs to ride this out to just outside the finals cutoff position then have a nice long holiday before his first German preseason.

ToddG NBUnited
16-03-2014, 12:19 AM
pretty sure he has deleted that tweet now.

BodyNovo
16-03-2014, 12:20 AM
Tweet has been deleted now

Someone at the club obviously shook some sense into him

The Dunster
16-03-2014, 12:20 AM
I cannot understand the love for this imposter. He can't catch a ball and his decision making is woeful, distribution average at best, and with respect to his six yard box or getting to a cross he's an absolute joke.

Bring back BK and show this dickwipe the door.

Grimario
16-03-2014, 12:22 AM
I don't rate BK in the slightest but at least he would be gutted at having a shit game like Birraz did, especially in a derby.

weston
16-03-2014, 12:22 AM
Embarrassing, and he is rightly copping it from all and sundry on twitter.

Poor comments by a player after a derby game I think. Whether I think he deserves it or not, he did ask for it via that twitter message.

weston
16-03-2014, 12:26 AM
I cannot understand the love for this imposter. He can't catch a ball and his decision making is woeful, distribution average at best, and with respect to his six yard box or getting to a cross he's an absolute joke.

Bring back BK and show this dickwipe the door.

I for one like the man Birighitti. At times he reminds me of that French goalkeeper that played for Man Utd, Fabian Barthez. With some of the saves and all that he has made during his stay here. Also at times he reminds me of him in other ways. Ways you seen tonight.

pv4
16-03-2014, 12:29 AM
One of Biraz's biggest fans here and I thought those cockups were MAJOR tonight (obviously). I'd like to see Zane give BK a run next week purely on opportunity/form.

GazFish35
16-03-2014, 12:30 AM
Tweet has been deleted now

Someone at the club obviously shook some sense into him

Can only hope it was reegz.

seldom
16-03-2014, 01:15 AM
****ing disgrace

649

What a joke


:blush:

halo se7en
16-03-2014, 10:29 AM
I was on the Birraz bandwagon but happy for BK to get the nod after the last couple of weeks. He didn't have a great game against Heart either and made some potentially costly blunders but his defenders saved his arse. Unfortunately for him, none of them were standing on the goal line last night!

ToddG NBUnited
16-03-2014, 12:32 PM
Too little too late?
http://imageshack.com/a/img844/2653/ivvl.png

sammydog
16-03-2014, 12:37 PM
Too little too late?
http://imageshack.com/a/img844/2653/ivvl.png

Only because it follows his tweet last night.

ToddG NBUnited
16-03-2014, 12:44 PM
exactly, an apology to the supporters for what he said would of been much more appropriate then this empty statement IMO.

GazFish35
16-03-2014, 12:52 PM
From "not phased one little bit" to "truly hurting".


I call BULLSHIT

Blackmac79
16-03-2014, 01:01 PM
**** everyone at the club.

snake
16-03-2014, 03:37 PM
maybe he is actually fazed

either way, the next phase of his career ain't gonna be in europe

MFKS
16-03-2014, 03:47 PM
that next phase better be on a Bunning s plastic chair at Hunter stadium
next Saturday

Pico
16-03-2014, 04:11 PM
From "not phased one little bit" to "truly hurting".


I call BULLSHIT

Some rookie back tracking there from birraz....... Just like last night's opening goal.

Can you imagine if BK had have tweeted that same shit, the internet, the jets Facebook, the herald and nf.net would have exploded.

hawk
16-03-2014, 04:23 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img844/2653/ivvl.png
hurting as in my coffee is cold or hurting as in i will eat a bowl of shit to atone for my mistakes

MFKS
16-03-2014, 04:25 PM
Ffs the bloke faarkd up with the Twitter post

sure the bloke meant to say he wasn't gonna let his **** ups get the better of him and was gonna work extra hard to make sure it didn't,t happen again etc

just came out wrong hence the deleting. of it


why keep making. mountains of it???

The Dunster
16-03-2014, 04:27 PM
Would love to see this sung by the squadron next game.
To the tune of "We're Not Gonna Take it"

You're not going to Europe
You're not going to Europe
You're not going to Europe Anymore.....

Pico
16-03-2014, 04:35 PM
hurting as in my coffee is cold or hurting as in i will eat a bowl of shit to atone for my mistakes
Hurting as in he just got woken up by the club PR guy asking him to delete a tweet and his phones locked and in his pocket.

Pico
16-03-2014, 04:50 PM
Its OK it wasn't birraz fault, that all lies with regs..... What a cop out!

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/training-ground-bust-blame-birighittis-horror-night

Also confirmation about heskey and the club in talks, im sure that will be next to be linked to the reason for birraz mistakes, after all its not birraz fault he's perfect.

Jeterpool
16-03-2014, 05:28 PM
Would love to see this sung by the squadron next game.
To the tune of "We're Not Gonna Take it"

You're not going to Europe
You're not going to Europe
You're not going to Europe Anymore.....

What do you hope that will achieve?

I think it will demonstrate to our player that we, the fans, don't support him.

Maybe by singing FOR him, or any player for that matter, will result in them feeling phased about any future losses

The Dunster
16-03-2014, 06:04 PM
Training ground bust-up to blame for Birighitti's horror night

Newcastle coach Clayton Zane has conceded the training ground fight with teammate Taylor Regan may have had a bigger effect on goal-keeper Mark Birighitti than the Jets coaching staff first thought as the 22-year-old was at fault for two of the three goals the Mariners scored in their 3-1 F3 Derby triumph on Saturday evening.

Birighitti was caught napping when Mariners defender Eddy Bosnar drilled a free-kick home from just inside the Jets half after just 41 seconds before the former Adelaide United player fumbled a Matt Simon attempt which offered up the third goal to Glen Trifiro two minutes from time at Central Coast Stadium.

Birighitti and Regan, who didn’t feature on Saturday evening, came to blows at Jets training on Monday and the spat was clearly still on the young goalkeeper's mind.

“It’s been a very big week if you add the two goals on top of the incident’ conceded Zane.

“You never know how it is going to affect an individual and maybe it did have a bigger effect on him than we thought.

“If I had of thought that was the case we would have looked to see how we could manage that but for both parties involved that sort of blew over pretty quickly.

Despite the fact the incident drew blood Zane did try to downplay the fight.

“At the time the incident was made into a little bit of a headline by the media because it was a slower news week.

“There was no rumblings at training, the boys got over it pretty quick.

After falling behind in the first minute to Bosnar’s long-range strike Zane, 36, didn’t lambast the keeper at the break.

“It’s more about using his experience to motivate the others, I don’t think it was a time to single anyone out.

“The kid has fallen into a bit of hole let’s help him get out of it.

“Our reaction after going 2-0 down was very good”

Zane continued.

“He knows the score it’s been a very very toucgh week for the boy and pointing fingers at anyone is not going to help anyone.

”I actually walked off and it was quite refreshing to hear people in the change room talk about he performance for 75 minutes of that match.

“We need to be a 90 minute team leading into the finals and we have got very short time to get back to winning ways.”

Zane is confident the experience of the week will make Birighitti a better player in the long run.

“Biri’s knows the score, that’s part of his development, the timing wasn’t great but I’m sure the boys will lift him and make sure that he is ready to go tomorrow.

Been a pretty tough week for the fans that actually spent money to watch that shit as well . **** this club shits me. They either wrap the players in cotton wool or they publically humiliate them. Why not just drop him for a week. Give BK a run and if BK does well then Birra can wait for another shot like BK was made to.

Jeterpool
16-03-2014, 06:21 PM
Been a pretty tough week for the fans that actually spent money to watch that shit as well . **** this club shits me. They either wrap the players in cotton wool or they publically humiliate them. Why not just drop him for a week. Give BK a run and if BK does well then Birra can wait for another shot like BK was made to.

If that's the case from the article posted above. then that sounds like poor management from Zane. He should have been watching these two closer after the events of earlier in the week and replaced those considered for the team if he thinks they're off the boil.

Can't disagree with your logic either

Thomas477
16-03-2014, 06:22 PM
If that's the case the case then that sounds like poor management from Zane. He should have been watching these two closer after the events of earlier in the week and replaced those considered for the team if he thinks they're off the boil.

Who cares if it's bad management, he was the cheapest option as a manager.

militiamon
16-03-2014, 07:17 PM
I actually walked off and it was quite refreshing to hear people in the change room talk about the performance for 75 minutes of that match.

wtf?

I'd be fxxxing furious with them. It was 3-1, I don't care how well you all think you played, that's just an awful result for what should have been our biggest game of the season.

Clayton could not fxxx off sooner imo.

Blackmac79
16-03-2014, 07:21 PM
**** everyone at the club.

Again.

stopper2
16-03-2014, 08:24 PM
Four games to go now and with the this loss the reality is that our own destiny is out of our hands. The simple fact is that this was our crunch game and we blew it (as we always seem to do). We will be hoping that the likes of Adelaide, Mariners or SFC slip up in 2-3 of the games while we will have to win at the very least 3 to have any chance of sneaking into 6th position. Once again our season has been a fail and even by some miracle if we do sneak into the six no amount of sugarcoating should disguise this fact.

halo se7en
16-03-2014, 09:23 PM
Four games to go now and with the this loss the reality is that our own destiny is out of our hands. The simple fact is that this was our crunch game and we blew it (as we always seem to do). We will be hoping that the likes of Adelaide, Mariners or SFC slip up in 2-3 of the games while we will have to win at the very least 3 to have any chance of sneaking into 6th position. Once again our season has been a fail and even by some miracle if we do sneak into the six no amount of sugarcoating should disguise this fact.

Of course it's still in our hands. The other 3 teams ahead of us aren't winning all 4 of their games. The simple fact is we aren't good enough to win our games.

hawk
16-03-2014, 09:50 PM
What do you hope that will achieve?

I think it will demonstrate to our player that we, the fans, don't support him.

i think for a week he can cop it, after that let it go. He'll probably save a pen and become the hero again. so jets.

Anyway the impotant stuff is kicking off soon, ftj.

snake
17-03-2014, 12:00 AM
does everyone know bk was out of position for ADPs free kick??!??!!

parksey
17-03-2014, 03:12 AM
wtf?

I'd be fxxxing furious with them. It was 3-1, I don't care how well you all think you played, that's just an awful result for what should have been our biggest game of the season.

Clayton could not fxxx off sooner imo.

clayton is just trying to back his keeper. good on him.

eadc

snake
17-03-2014, 03:38 AM
such hostility :rof: :rof:

pv4
17-03-2014, 06:02 AM
Clayton could not fxxx off sooner imo.

:rof: coming from the guy who still hurts on the inside whenever anyone mentions GVE and how awful he was for our club

russjaybee
17-03-2014, 09:32 AM
Haven't read the rest but I still feel much more confident having Birraz in goals than BK.
He had a bad game, he's had plenty of good ones. I wouldn't risk rotating him out, plus I don't think that's fair mentally.

If he's showing drive in training etc then you need to give him the chance to redeem himself, if he's being carefree about it at training then yeah you could considering roping in bk. Depends on his attitude as well though of course.

pv4
17-03-2014, 09:56 AM
If he's showing drive in training etc then you need to give him the chance to redeem himself, if he's being carefree about it at training then yeah you could considering roping in bk. Depends on his attitude as well though of course.

Having watched the Jerks train, they're all carefree. Zane has kickabouts with players, Bridges spends more time pulling jokes than coaching people, Deans is MIA, Carney is a fxxxing pest, etc.

russjaybee
17-03-2014, 10:00 AM
Really? deadset disc race if that's the case. Should be super focused and training hard with a few games to go and finals make or break.

Need to get a real manager in that's going to treat this shit seriously.

BodyNovo
17-03-2014, 10:02 AM
Papas or Okon

give em 2 years and let them pick there staff.

MFKS
17-03-2014, 10:29 AM
Having watched the Jerks train, they're all carefree. Zane has kickabouts with players, Bridges spends more time pulling jokes than coaching people, Deans is MIA, Carney is a fxxxing pest, etc.

Maybe if we had a coach giving them 2 sessions a day and flogging the **** out of them and working hard we wouldn't be so shit???

The amount of training these blokes do from all reports (1 session a day 4 days a week ???) is a dis grace.


Sure blokes in Europe would be pissing themselves laughing if there coach said one session a day 4 days a week

lquiquer
17-03-2014, 10:39 AM
Bridges spends more time pulling jokes than coaching people.

And prob the only one laughing

The Dunster
17-03-2014, 12:44 PM
Birra's athleticism is is best attribute. His complete lack of composure and inability to read a game pretty much cancel out the athleticism. As someone mentioned earlier - he's a lot like Fabian Barthez. Not a problem when you have the ability to score goals like Man U did back then. But an absolute nightmare for a team like the Jets.

MFKS
17-03-2014, 02:13 PM
This bloke been made to apologise to the public today for his Twitter Faux pas??

If Not considering Griffo got anger management for showing some passion and ticker the least Birraz deserves is public shaming for his multitude of **** ups on Saturday at the ****ing minimum

dis grace

MIDDLEBY OUT

plague
17-03-2014, 02:19 PM
This bloke been made to apologise to the public today for his Twitter Faux pas??

If Not considering Griffo got anger management for showing some passion and ticker the least Birraz deserves is public shaming for his multitude of **** ups on Saturday at the ****ing minimum

dis grace

MIDDLEBY OUT

Nah. Birazz will prob get some sort of merit card at training for keeping his emotions in check despite being under much duress.
Passion does not exist in our dojo.

russjaybee
17-03-2014, 02:53 PM
Love the division within our club (y)

hausmann
20-03-2014, 09:55 AM
Anyone else notice how Birraz's decline has coincided with Joel's arrival? I think he's realised what it's like to train against a real striker and it has dented his confidence.

Grimario
20-03-2014, 11:45 AM
UNDISPUTED?

@NewcastleJetsFC coach Clayton Zane confirms keeper Ben Kennedy will come into the starting line up for Saturday's game against Wellington

And to think I made a joke about BK only getting a #1 by way of the clippers.

q-money
20-03-2014, 11:47 AM
lol here we go

The Dunster
20-03-2014, 11:52 AM
One week off for Birra to take the pressure off him, and Bk will need to keep a clean sheet, plus score a goal to be any chance of keeping the number one position the following week.

Grimario
20-03-2014, 12:11 PM
I dunno, catching a ball hit from halfway might be enough to keep him in the starting spot.

Jetmaster
20-03-2014, 12:13 PM
BK will be under the microscope from the boo boys looking for any minor mistake.

plague
20-03-2014, 12:16 PM
One week off for Birra to take the pressure off him, and Bk will need to keep a clean sheet, plus score a goal to be any chance of keeping the number one position the following week.
Not so sure.
If (when) Jets win and BK has a half decent game Zane will be labelled a mofo jeen-yus.

q-money
20-03-2014, 12:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7OX0zlG6M

the king, probs one of my favourite ever performances of someone in a newy shirt, i can't think of many better

Bon
20-03-2014, 12:21 PM
Not so sure.
If (when) Jets win and BK has a half decent game Zane will be labelled a mofo jeen-yus.

But if (when) we lose 4-0, Clacka will have his dick in the deep-fryer over making the change..

MFKS
20-03-2014, 12:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7OX0zlG6M

the king, probs one of my favourite ever performances of someone in a newy shirt, i can't think of many better

Caravella Brown Culina

**** we raided that Gold Coast side of all their shit ****s

plague
20-03-2014, 12:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7OX0zlG6M

the king, probs one of my favourite ever performances of someone in a newy shirt, i can't think of many better
Amen brother.

plague
20-03-2014, 12:40 PM
But if (when) we lose 4-0, Clacka will have his dick in the deep-fryer over making the change..

We won't lose this week.

Plus, there's no way Zane can be questioned for switching goalies.
FFS why have a spare if you keep picking a bloke who let's them in from 50 yards.

Bon
20-03-2014, 12:45 PM
We won't lose this week.

Plus, there's no way Zane can be questioned for switching goalies.
FFS why have a spare if you keep picking a bloke who let's them in from 50 yards.

We had better not..

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a BK hater at all.. I guess I just still have residual nervous feelings about him being between the sticks..
Hope he grabs this chance by the thruff of the scrote..

BodyNovo
20-03-2014, 12:46 PM
I bet biraz is pretty "phased" now

q-money
20-03-2014, 12:48 PM
We had better not..

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a BK hater at all.. I guess I just still have residual nervous feelings about him being between the sticks..
Hope he grabs this chance by the thruff of the scrote..
where's gaz fish with the stats that show that BK is statistically no worse than birraz

Grimario
20-03-2014, 12:48 PM
Caravella Brown Culina

**** we raided that Gold Coast side of all their shit ****s

Pfft. Beard is immense. Brown should have been immense, we've just managed to turn him into shit. Caravella went and was POTY at Adelaide before we poached him.

ForeverRed
20-03-2014, 01:01 PM
I wonder what Taylor regan thinks of zanes decision 😄😄😄

Jeterpool
20-03-2014, 01:02 PM
I bet biraz is pretty "phased" now

this

GazFish35
20-03-2014, 03:28 PM
where's gaz fish with the stats that show that BK is statistically no worse than birraz

no stats.
Birraz is probably the better keeper.

I just ****ing hated it when ****s who know nothing about keeping hang shit on BK left right and centre.



BK has conceded less gaols this season though. :)

Grimario
20-03-2014, 03:31 PM
He hasn't said what amounts to "Don't care that I played shit in a derby" either.

plague
20-03-2014, 03:35 PM
Geez, some blokes on 'ere.
Anyone remember Ante having some absolute shockers the season after we won the GF?
I do.
Blokes gone alright since.
BK is a ledge.

Jeterpool
20-03-2014, 04:43 PM
no stats.
Birraz is probably the better keeper.

I just ****ing hated it when ****s who know nothing about keeping hang shit on BK left right and centre.



BK has conceded less gaols this season though. :)

I'll get the info

WolfMan
20-03-2014, 04:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7OX0zlG6M

the king, probs one of my favourite ever performances of someone in a newy shirt, i can't think of many better

Gee you forget how terrible picture quality was before HD!

I should get a new capture device and do some more of these vids up :grin:

WolfMan
20-03-2014, 04:59 PM
BK has conceded less gaols this season though. :)

Maitland Gaol still run tours, yeh? :wink:

GazFish35
20-03-2014, 07:45 PM
Oops :)

MFKS
21-03-2014, 12:50 AM
Pfft. Beard is immense. Brown should have been immense, we've just managed to turn him into shit. Caravella went and was POTY at Adelaide before we poached him.

Beard was not playing in that side that is why I never mentioned him but singled out Brown Culina and Roundabout

Reread the bit where I said " *** we raided that Gold Coast side of all their shit ****s"


FFS Grim it just makes you look stoo pid going off half cocked like that :wink::sparring::roflz:

Grimario
21-03-2014, 08:46 AM
No mate, it makes you look like you have daft opinions.

Culina, definitely not shit. ****ed up knee, incapable of playing football but definitely not shit.
Caravella, went to Adelaide, was player of the year. Firstly, we didn't get him from GCU and secondly, apart from being inconsistent and making the occasional daft decisions, also definitely not shit.
Brown, one of the brightest talents in the A-League, massive upside that we beat out of him. Definitely not shit at the time, but we certainly made him.

So we poached POTY from Adelaide, a star Socceroo midfielder whose career was ended by injury and one of the hottest prospects in the country... what a ****ing shambles that was.

GazFish35
21-03-2014, 08:54 AM
We'd have been better poaching their owner.
He still has 2 bob to rub together.

belchardo
21-03-2014, 10:01 AM
and if he gets kicked out of parliament for breaching Tassie electoral laws, he'll have a lot more time on his hands.

tinks out, clive in (if only for the lols)!

Jetmaster
21-03-2014, 11:17 AM
and if he gets kicked out of parliament for breaching Tassie electoral laws, he'll have a lot more time on his hands.

tinks out, clive in (if only for the lols)!

You know he'd make Mitch Cooper captain again ???

Newy
21-03-2014, 12:04 PM
no stats.
Birraz is probably the better keeper.

I just ****ing hated it when ****s who know nothing about keeping hang shit on BK left right and centre.



BK has conceded less gaols this season though. :)

agree.. 10000000000%%%%%%

Birraz may be the better keeper..... but if Bk made the mistakes Birraz has made over the course of this season... Bk would of been crucified.

plague
21-03-2014, 03:34 PM
FFS Grim it just makes you look stoo pid going off half cocked like that :wink::sparring::roflz:

Grim going off half cocked?
Jesus Member you are the John Wayne Bobbitt of the Foz.

MFKS
21-03-2014, 04:28 PM
653

Whooossshhhh:wacko:

plague
21-03-2014, 04:45 PM
653

Whooossshhhh:wacko:

I thought I'd throw in a joke for those oldies on the Foz.

Google is an amazing thing.

q-money
21-03-2014, 04:49 PM
i wore an onion on my belt, as was the style at the time

WolfMan
21-03-2014, 05:07 PM
I thought I'd throw in a joke for those oldies on the Foz.

Google is an amazing thing.

Don't even think you need to be that old to get the reference. I am the wrong side of 30 though...

plague
21-03-2014, 05:14 PM
I'm on the right side of 30 and it was plain as day to me as well.
The Member is from his own time though.

Grimario
24-03-2014, 09:40 AM
The Jets have granted permission for @MarkBirraz to travel to Germany and meet with Bayer Leverkusen

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Birighitti-visiting-Germany/88809


The Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets have granted permission for current Hyundai A-League contracted player Mark Birighitti to travel to Germany and meet with Bundesliga Club Bayer Leverkusen.

Birighitti flew to Germany on Sunday to talk to key representatives of the Club.

The 22-year-old goalkeeper will return to Australia on Saturday, linking up with his Jets teammates in Perth for their Round 25 Hyundai A-League fixture against Perth Glory at nib Stadium.

BodyNovo
24-03-2014, 09:41 AM
show us the money.

snake
24-03-2014, 09:41 AM
back in time to ride the pine

q-money
24-03-2014, 10:00 AM
:rof:

Grimario
24-03-2014, 10:06 AM
Mods, can you please change thread title to Birraz Bayer Leverkusen's UNDISPUTED No 3 or 4

plague
24-03-2014, 11:08 AM
Mods, can you please change thread title to Birraz Bayer Leverkusen's UNDISPUTED No 3 or 4

Oh that's very well done sir.

plague
24-03-2014, 11:09 AM
Ok let's get down to it.
Someone make a poll if it's easier but let's have a guessing comp as to how much we'll get as a transfer fee for Birazz.

I'll go first:
'Undisclosed fee'.

GazFish35
24-03-2014, 11:30 AM
hope they dont serve hot drinks on the plane

MFKS
24-03-2014, 12:21 PM
Hopefully Middleby can actually negotiate a decent deal out of this. Besides the financial aspects of a transfer fee :roflz: (HELLO PLAGUE) would be good if any signing was contingent on a loan deal back here for another 12 months. Bloke would probably benefit more from playing in the HAL than training for the Reserves in Germany.

Premy
24-03-2014, 01:35 PM
Ok let's get down to it.
Someone make a poll if it's easier but let's have a guessing comp as to how much we'll get as a transfer fee for Birazz.

I'll go first:
'Undisclosed fee'.

Well that's not fair you took my guess

plague
24-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Well that's not fair you took my guess

You can say 'nothing'.

Means the same thing.

/middleby'd

seldom
24-03-2014, 02:15 PM
hope they dont serve hot drinks on the plane

lol

Pico
24-03-2014, 04:04 PM
Hopefully Middleby can actually negotiate a decent deal out of this. Besides the financial aspects of a transfer fee :roflz: (HELLO PLAGUE) would be good if any signing was contingent on a loan deal back here for another 12 months. Bloke would probably benefit more from playing in the HAL than training for the Reserves in Germany.
Birraz has a buy out clause set at $400k, same for taggs. The only player who is being linked to a move without a transfer ceiling is beard.

plague
24-03-2014, 04:14 PM
Birraz has a buy out clause set at $400k, same for taggs. The only player who is being linked to a move without a transfer ceiling is beard.
So the MAX is $400k and the MIN is $0.
Will be interesting where the number ends up.

Provided they even make an offer.

Premy
24-03-2014, 04:56 PM
Birraz has a buy out clause set at $400k, same for taggs. The only player who is being linked to a move without a transfer ceiling is beard.
From my understanding it's not a buy out clause the Club can reject a 400k bid, what my understanding of it was its a transfer celling we're the club can not negotiate a transfer greater than 400k

militiamon
24-03-2014, 08:18 PM
^ Seems a bit backward though, doesn't it?
I mean it wouldn't help the player because the club could just reject it, and it wouldn't help the club because then they've restricted themselves to a set transfer amount.

Who made up this clause, Middleby?

hawk
24-03-2014, 08:25 PM
Hopefully Middleby can actually negotiate a decent deal out of this. Besides the financial aspects of a transfer fee :roflz: (HELLO PLAGUE) would be good if any signing was contingent on a loan deal back here for another 12 months. Bloke would probably benefit more from playing in the HAL than training for the Reserves in Germany.

we get money and keep the player. genius, cept biz is No2 round here.

MFKS
24-03-2014, 09:07 PM
we get money and keep the player. genius, cept biz is No2 round here.

If I remember right the Gypos done the same when they sold Amini to Dortmund

Got the money and Amini done a bit of pre season work at Dortmund before returning to play for the Gypos on loan in the HAL for another year before making the move to germany permanently

Blackmac79
24-03-2014, 09:09 PM
Good on the club for having any clause in there to be honest.

joel31
25-03-2014, 06:49 PM
sell him to further his career but we better get a good replacement

goaliepersempre
25-03-2014, 08:15 PM
If I remember right the Gypos done the same when they sold Amini to Dortmund

Got the money and Amini done a bit of pre season work at Dortmund before returning to play for the Gypos on loan in the HAL for another year before making the move to germany permanently

and that gypo wanker is doing so well hahahahaha.....

MFKS
25-03-2014, 08:28 PM
and that gypo wanker is doing so well hahahahaha.....

The bloke is playing at one of the top 10 sides in Europe

To expect him to walk into the side is a bit harsh within 2 years of leaving the HAL


The bloke has a few years there and fails so what he can then get a gig elsewhere and will be a much better player for his experience

Grimario
05-04-2014, 10:52 PM
Reckon Biraz move to Leverkusen is off after Hyypia was sacked?

Thomas477
05-04-2014, 11:09 PM
Reckon Biraz move to Leverkusen is off after Hyypia was sacked?

**** I hope so.

Jeterpool
05-04-2014, 11:26 PM
sell him to further his career but we better get a good replacement

I guess we need to question are there any quality keepers sitting on the sideline at another club AND coming off contract who are an improvement on BK?

I'm struggling to think of one myself.

joel31
06-04-2014, 06:29 AM
I guess we need to question are there any quality keepers sitting on the sideline at another club AND coming off contract who are an improvement on BK?

I'm struggling to think of one myself.
We have free foreign spots

WolfMan
06-04-2014, 08:24 AM
We have as a country produced many fine Goalkeepers over the years. Foreign spot on one would be a waste

Jetmaster
06-04-2014, 08:29 AM
We have as a country produced many fine Goalkeepers over the years. Foreign spot on one would be a waste

This - not many O/S keepers have come here, let alone be successful. Best to get one of the experienced Aussie keepers overseas or recycle a good one here.

MFKS
14-05-2014, 12:07 PM
Congrats to this bloke making the WC Training Squad

Love your work



Sure the BK Lovers will be eating dick as we speak

Newys No 1

la bazzle
14-05-2014, 12:13 PM
Legend. Nice one birraz

Grimario
14-05-2014, 12:16 PM
Apart from a few select people, I think most will agree that he is a far superior keeper to BK. But the way he went to shit once he was in the media as moving to Germany, being a WC bolter and then the "I don't give a shit that I ****ed up majorly and lost us the game against the club's biggest rival" drama... made perfect sense to drop him and get him focused a bit.

If he isn't #1 next season it will be because he has made the WC 30 man squad and an overseas club has taken a gamble on him, not because he isn't better than BK.

Blackmac79
14-05-2014, 12:33 PM
Talented twat

joel31
14-05-2014, 04:42 PM
Congrats to him. It will be a good experience training with the best

GazFish35
14-05-2014, 05:52 PM
I'm not sure any of the "BK lovers" (of which I'm a vocal member) would argue that birraz isn't a better keeper.

Most of the arguments for bk arent that he's better, but just that gets the treatment he deserves, not all the abuse he doesn't deserve.... And that birraz is held to account just as much.

Congrats birraz. Hope he gets to go.

pessimist
15-05-2014, 06:55 PM
we are stuffed without birraz

plague
15-05-2014, 07:56 PM
we are stuffed without birraz

We won a grand final without him.

Jeterpool
15-05-2014, 08:52 PM
We won a grand final without him.

Yeah but we had a better keeper than birraz between the sticks that day

stopper2
15-05-2014, 09:03 PM
I'm not sure any of the "BK lovers" (of which I'm a vocal member) would argue that birraz isn't a better keeper.

Most of the arguments for bk arent that he's better, but just that gets the treatment he deserves, not all the abuse he doesn't deserve.... And that birraz is held to account just as much.

Congrats birraz. Hope he gets to go.
Well said Fish.

militiamon
15-05-2014, 10:18 PM
Yeah but we had a better keeper than birraz between the sticks that day

Jimmy Holland?

Premy
15-05-2014, 10:25 PM
Jimmy Holland?
:lulzturtle:

Jeterpool
16-05-2014, 06:12 AM
Jimmy Holland?

:roflz:

We have a winner

MFKS
12-08-2014, 07:15 AM
IT was a cup of coffee Mark Birighitti will cherish forever.

The advice the Jets goalkeeper received from Juventus shot-stopper Gigi Buffon will be equally treasured.

Birighitti spent 40 minutes with his idol at the Italian team’s Sydney hotel on Monday.

The previous night, the 23-year-old had played the final 20 minutes for the A-League All Stars in a credible 3-2 loss to the Serie-A champions.

After exchanging shirts with Buffon and Andrea Pirlo post-game, Birighitti’s All Stars teammate and Juventus legend Alessandro Del Piero arranged a get-together for the keepers.

‘‘It was amazing to spend time with Buffon,’’ Birighitti said.

‘‘We had a coffee and he told me about his experiences and gave me some advice, which was amazing.

‘‘He said, ‘No matter where you play, no matter what the game is, if you have things on your mind, if there is stuff happening overseas, always focus on the present moment. Focus on the job at hand and don’t get too far ahead of yourself’.

‘‘He knew I was at the Newcastle Jets and had the experience of going to the World Cup and was close to signing in Germany.


‘‘He said, ‘Now you are at Newcastle, you focus on Newcastle. That is your team and make sure you perform week-in, week-out for them. Europe will always be there. If you perform well at your club, you will get opportunities to go overseas. If you don’t perform at your club, it is a different story’.

‘‘We spoke about a range of things but that was the thing that stuck with me.

‘‘Getting advice off him – he has played at the highest level, is a world champion and has done everything in world football.

‘‘To hear that from his mouth was music to my ears.’’

Birighitti returns to the Jets and the reality of a preseason training today.

Ben Kennedy finished last season as the Jets’ first-choice gloveman and has been in-goal for the opening three trials.

‘‘I can’t wait to get back now and knuckle down to training,’’ Birighitti said.

‘‘I have had an amazing few months – going to the World Cup and then getting into the All Star team.

‘‘It is only going to make me hungrier for the season to start.

‘‘BK is a good goalkeeper.

‘‘It is up to me now. I just want to focus on my own game and make sure I perform day-in day-out at training.

‘‘As Buffon said, I have to focus on the present and not get too far ahead of myself.’’

Against Juventus, the score was locked at 1-1 when Birighitti replaced Eugene Galekovic.

Western Sydney striker Tomi Juric regained the lead for the All Stars with a thumping shot but late goals to Paul Pogba and Simone Pepe sealed the win for the Italians.

Both strikes were sublime and gave Birighitti little hope of saving them.

‘‘Their accuracy rate is so high,’’ Birighitti said.

‘‘When world-class players get an opportunity, they execute them. You give them a little sniff and they take it. You make a mistake and they punish.

‘‘In saying that, we gave it a real good crack.

‘‘We kept the ball well. That was one thing [coach] Josep Gombau was big on.

‘‘He wanted us to try and play football, play with freedom and enjoy the experience.’’



Hopefully the bloke is phased about playing for us now

Jeterpool
12-08-2014, 08:00 AM
What a fantastic opportunity for Birrighiti. I'm very jealous.

I expect to see him return with increased drive to succeed her for Newcastle. It was his hard work that got him the Leverkusen link in the first place, but it's almost back to square one. He needs to prove himself again and I reckon Stubbins will give him that opportunity.

GazFish35
12-08-2014, 08:10 AM
Why does he need Buffon to tell him to focus on his current job? Isn't it obvious?

How many players make it over to Europe by daydreaming through training and games here. Unless you're Leo messi quality - and even those guys still work hard - it's a ****ing no brainer isn't it?

pv4
12-08-2014, 08:15 AM
How dare he gain advice from one of the greatest players in his position to have ever played the game.

BK in, Biraz phased out

Jeterpool
12-08-2014, 08:36 AM
Why does he need Buffon to tell him to focus on his current job? Isn't it obvious?

How many players make it over to Europe by daydreaming through training and games here. Unless you're Leo messi quality - and even those guys still work hard - it's a ****ing no brainer isn't it?

I think his head got turned. The chat with Buffon might have the impact of refocussing him. It's what some people need, Gaz. We all work in different ways.

plague
12-08-2014, 11:00 AM
Am concerned Buffon didn't address the whole 'dive/don't dive' debate.

la bazzle
12-08-2014, 04:45 PM
Birraz what a legend. Glad to have him here still. Bloke made an error tried to act cool about it, didn't turn out good for him. But he's only young and helps blokes seal the deal with chicks.

hawk
12-08-2014, 04:54 PM
I expect to see him return with increased drive to succeed her for (insert OS team here) .

ftfy

i have no probs with biz just dont gift the yellow river ever again.

Jetmaster
12-08-2014, 07:44 PM
BK number one last match - Birraz got to get back in the team first.

sammydog
12-08-2014, 08:02 PM
It will be interesting to see what Stubbins does.

BK was the number 1 at the end of last season but with a new coach, Birraz going with the WC squad and the All-Stars game there is an argument for him to start.

As long as Birraz's head is hear, and not OS like it was towards the end of last season, I am happy with either keeper.

Jeterpool
12-08-2014, 08:34 PM
It will be interesting to see what Stubbins does.

BK was the number 1 at the end of last season but with a new coach, Birraz going with the WC squad and the All-Stars game there is an argument for him to start.

As long as Birraz's head is hear, and not OS like it was towards the end of last season, I am happy with either keeper.

BK is ahead at the moment simply because he's been here. Birraz will get a go in North Queensland. Happy with either too. May the best keeper play

borat
13-08-2014, 10:48 AM
If you were BK and reading these daily commentaries about how Birraz is going to get the No 1 back it would fire you right up I imagine. And Birraz will champing at the bit after the WC and Bayer move falling over. We are going to have two very good keepers this year pushing each other.

On their day Birraz is the better keeper IMO, but haven't seen his best form in a while. Spot should be BK's unless Birraz can produce miracles in the remaining pre-season.

pv4
13-08-2014, 10:53 AM
Biraz just got called up to the national team, and was second-choice keeper in the HAL allstars behind another Socceroo. Anyone who thinks BK deserves the number 1 position ahead of him I have no hope for, honestly.

MFKS
13-08-2014, 11:27 AM
If you were BK and reading these daily commentaries about how Birraz is going to get the No 1 back it would fire you right up I imagine. And Birraz will champing at the bit after the WC and Bayer move falling over. We are going to have two very good keepers this year pushing each other.

On their day Birraz is the better keeper IMO, but haven't seen his best form in a while. Spot should be BK's unless Birraz can produce miracles in the remaining pre-season.

Spot should go to the bloke who works hardest and earns it over the pre season.

What happened last year is irrelevant

Just like every other spot in the squad. The blokes who knuckle down and do the job in pre season deserve the spot in round 1 regardless of who they are

la bazzle
13-08-2014, 11:48 AM
Actually the best goalkeeper should be in goals. If both are fit, best player starts. I couldn't give a shit if a player missed all of preseason, if they are better then someone else they should start. That's like saying if griff missed pre season he shouldn't start. Geeze mate first u get a hard on for Alex wilkinson now u don't think griff should start should he get injured before the season. BK is a massive legend. But birraz is the better keeper so should start. So what birraz should get punished for being selected as one of the best keepers in the league and played against juventus. You would rather a guy that's played against Weston and Perth. One of those teams you yourself said weren't worthy of a trial.

sammydog
13-08-2014, 11:50 AM
Spot should go to the bloke who works hardest and earns it over the pre season.

What happened last year is irrelevant

Just like every other spot in the squad. The blokes who knuckle down and do the job in pre season deserve the spot in round 1 regardless of who they are


I agree. New season, new coach, earn your spot.

pv4
13-08-2014, 11:55 AM
Actually the best goalkeeper should be in goals. If both are fit, best player starts. I couldn't give a shit if a player missed all of preseason, if they are better then someone else they should start. That's like saying if griff missed pre season he shouldn't start. Geeze mate first u get a hard on for Alex wilkinson now u don't think griff should start should he get injured before the season. BK is a massive legend. But birraz is the better keeper so should start. So what birraz should get punished for being selected as one of the best keepers in the league and played against juventus. You would rather a guy that's played against Weston and Perth. One of those teams you yourself said weren't worthy of a trial.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuedZ1Y_dU4

Grimario
13-08-2014, 11:58 AM
I agree. New season, new coach, earn your spot.

Earn your spot? **** that, be the best at your spot. That should be enough to earn it, whether you spend pre-season pumping iron, pumping the ladies (griff, obv) or pumping fists with Buffon. Had it with this "oh, but Joe Shitplayer spent the season doing lots of work so deserves his spot of Joel Mega****ingawesomeplayer who didn't work as hard".

**** hard work. Actual ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard work.

BodyNovo
13-08-2014, 12:03 PM
can they just play a half each?:pissup:

plague
13-08-2014, 12:19 PM
**** hard work. Actual ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard work.

Except that without hard work, there is no 'ability'.

MFKS
13-08-2014, 12:19 PM
Geeze mate first u get a hard on for Alex wilkinson now u don't think griff should start should he get injured before the season.
As if Griff gets injured. :blush:

The bloke is superhuman. Bloke will play for Newy even with a broken leg


Your argument is just plain flawed using Griff as an example

pv4
13-08-2014, 12:29 PM
I can't believe the MFAW doesn't want Griff to play smh

Grimario
13-08-2014, 12:29 PM
Except that without hard work, there is no 'ability'.

No shit but the argument here is "the guy that works his arse off (despite being inferior) should get the starting spot because he worked hard". That's such a bullshit argument. I could work my arse off and put more effort in than anyone in the history of professional sport and it would still count for nothing.

pv4
13-08-2014, 12:35 PM
I just want guys who are going to win us games, hey.

And even though BK may do more squat thrusts than Biraz, outside of Newcastle it is accepted by the likes of Ange, Gombau, the general public, etc that Biraz is the man for us.

sammydog
13-08-2014, 12:36 PM
Earn your spot? **** that, be the best at your spot. That should be enough to earn it, whether you spend pre-season pumping iron, pumping the ladies (griff, obv) or pumping fists with Buffon. Had it with this "oh, but Joe Shitplayer spent the season doing lots of work so deserves his spot of Joel Mega****ingawesomeplayer who didn't work as hard".

**** hard work. Actual ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard work.

I think earning a spot isn't just working hard, thats taking a too simplistic view of how you get to the top. It does include that but you also have to look at who's performing now and in form at this point in time. Not who was starting at the end of last season, not who travelled to the world cup a few months back, and not just who is working the hardest in the off season.

**** around in the preseason and show no form (and as a result ability) at training and preseason matches, then how could you expect to start. That said, the mentality of anyone who wants to be the best at their spot and make it theirs, won't be taking a holiday during the preseason. They will be stating a case for them to have the spot.

I've got no doubt both BK and Birraz are pushing each other at training, which bodes well for us.

la bazzle
13-08-2014, 12:46 PM
I can't believe the MFAW doesn't want Griff to play smh

Loves his mate "Wilko" and hates that griff was brought into the team last year without participating in preseason. How the mighty have fallen.

plague
13-08-2014, 12:54 PM
No shit but the argument here is "the guy that works his arse off (despite being inferior) should get the starting spot because he worked hard". That's such a bullshit argument. I could work my arse off and put more effort in than anyone in the history of professional sport and it would still count for nothing.

Nah, I reackon most on 'ere just want whoevers better when week 1 of the season comes round.

My point about hard work was that I don't believe in natural ability.

Whoever is the most in form keeper should get the job. Whether through hard work, prayer or PED's I don't care.

(I just don't like the BK hate from some on here).

Side note: do you think one of our keepers is 'inferior' to the other?

plague
13-08-2014, 12:56 PM
I can't believe the MFAW doesn't want Griff to play smh

Don't know what happened in Sth America but showing non stop love for the Gypo Wilkinson then demanding Griff be benched is the act of a sick sick man.

Grimario
13-08-2014, 12:58 PM
(I just don't like the BK hate from some on here).

Side note: do you think one of our keepers is 'inferior' to the other?

Yeah, BK is vastly inferior.

plague
13-08-2014, 01:14 PM
Yeah, BK is vastly inferior.

Hmmmm interesting. So would you say that at the time of getting dropped last year, Biraz was still a better keeper than BK?

hawk
13-08-2014, 01:24 PM
flip to see who starts then, whoever keeps a clean sheet stays in next week, if not, swap.

Grimario
13-08-2014, 01:39 PM
Hmmmm interesting. So would you say that at the time of getting dropped last year, Biraz was still a better keeper than BK?

Yes.

You are now confusing a far superior keeper being in shit form with a shit keeper having some good games. The whole class permanent, form temporary thing.

plague
13-08-2014, 02:47 PM
Yes.

You are now confusing a far superior keeper being in shit form with a shit keeper having some good games. The whole class permanent, form temporary thing.

Except that is your opinion (which I respect) and not a fact (which can probably never really be measured).
In my opinion there's not much of a gap between them and whoever is in form should get the job week 1.

Let's face it, the only person who is factually correct 100% of the time* is the Member.



* stats supplied by MFKS.

Grimario
13-08-2014, 02:53 PM
Your opinion holds less weight than the guy picking the Australian squad, to be fair...

:gent:

Local Rules
13-08-2014, 02:59 PM
Buffon must be a proctologist because his advice to Birra was pull you head out of your a**e and work hard. Maybe the only thing he could see last year was his colon and that is why he didn't dive.

pv4
13-08-2014, 03:04 PM
This is a legitimate question to the guys arguing for BK to be our number 1, or ever have:

Do you think that BK would be the next choice GK for Ange's Roos, if one or more of Ryan, Langerak, Eugene & Biraz were unavailable?

plague
13-08-2014, 03:11 PM
Your opinion holds less weight than the guy picking the Australian squad, to be fair...

:gent:

Who? The same bloke that picked Alex Wilkinson?
OK.

By that rationale you're saying in 2006 Stu Musalik was our best player and likewise Kristin Sarkies for the Victory.

You surely don't think that do you?

Grimario
13-08-2014, 03:12 PM
This is a legitimate question to the guys arguing for BK to be our number 1, or ever have:

Do you think that BK would be the next choice GK for Ange's Roos, if one or more of Ryan, Langerak, Eugene & Biraz were unavailable?

If he works really, REALLY hard and doesn't **** around in pre-season, absolutely.

plague
13-08-2014, 03:18 PM
This is a legitimate question to the guys arguing for BK to be our number 1, or ever have:

Do you think that BK would be the next choice GK for Ange's Roos, if one or more of Ryan, Langerak, Eugene & Biraz were unavailable?

How do you reason that? Because Biraz was in the development squad?
So then you're saying that Sarkies and Musalik were next in line in 2006 in case of injuries.

Biraz went over there as part of the development squad didn't he? Not because he was the 4th best keeper in Oz.

and to answer your question: no.

Do you think that had Eugene, Langerak and Ryan all got injured Biraz would have started vs Chile?

Grimario
13-08-2014, 03:19 PM
Who? The same bloke that picked Alex Wilkinson?
OK.

By that rationale you're saying in 2006 Stu Musalik was our best player and likewise Kristin Sarkies for the Victory.

You surely don't think that do you?

Yeah, as opposed to the plethora of other awesome centre backs that we had available.

And again, class vs form.

plague
13-08-2014, 03:22 PM
And again, class vs form.

So we should have taken Alex Tobin and Craig Moore then?

Grimario
13-08-2014, 03:25 PM
You're almost as bad as the member.

pv4
13-08-2014, 03:30 PM
How do you reason that? Because Biraz was in the development squad?
So then you're saying that Sarkies and Musalik were next in line in 2006 in case of injuries.

Biraz went over there as part of the development squad didn't he? Not because he was the 4th best keeper in Oz.

and to answer your question: no.

Do you think that had Eugene, Langerak and Ryan all got injured Biraz would have started vs Chile?

Why was Biraz chosen to be in the "development squad" as you call it (where did this phrase come from?) but BK wasn't?

Yes Biraz was taken over to Brazil as the 4th keeper so if any of the keepers had injuries prior to the Chile game, he would be put into the squad. If all three of the other keepers got injured, Biraz would have played.

MFKS
13-08-2014, 03:31 PM
Yeah, as opposed to the plethora of other awesome centre backs that we had available.

And again, class vs form.

Not wishing to be a shit stirring **** as I do agree with the line you are on Grimario.

If all those blokes were unavailable I am pretty confident Ange would have been on the blower getting Schwarzer and Birraz would still be riding the pine.

Even then Federici or Brad Jones before Birraz got on the pitch.

Does though reflect the point though on class though as none had the form.


Also anyone who thinks that Birraz aint the better keeper pound for pound is smoking crack

plague
13-08-2014, 03:35 PM
You're almost as bad as the member.

That is both the highest and lowest form of praise you could give someone.

Grimario
13-08-2014, 03:35 PM
The guy that has been part of the Australian youth set up since he came onto the scene, the guy that had a massive drop in form after rumours of him moving to the bundesliga, the guy that went to Brazil as part of the extended WC squad.... is nowhere near as good as the guy who will never be more than an okay A-League player if he is at the absolute peak of his form.

smh, have heard everything.

plague
13-08-2014, 03:38 PM
Why was Biraz chosen to be in the "development squad" as you call it (where did this phrase come from?) but BK wasn't? .

I don't know.
Why was Musalik taken over Griff back in 2006?
Why was Sarkies taken over my three legged dog back in 2006?
You'd have to ask the manager that.

plague
13-08-2014, 03:40 PM
The guy that has been part of the Australian youth set up since he came onto the scene, the guy that had a massive drop in form after rumours of him moving to the bundesliga, the guy that went to Brazil as part of the extended WC squad.... is nowhere near as good as the guy who will never be more than an okay A-League player if he is at the absolute peak of his form.

smh, have heard everything.

So he shouldn't have been dropped last year? You think we should have stuck with him regardless of how many 50 yarders he let in?