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hawk
06-02-2013, 01:28 AM
2012/2013 Hyundai A-League
Season 8 Round 20
Western Sydney Wanderers FC vs Newcastle United Jets FC

When: Saturday 9th February, 2012
Where: Stade Cambelltown
Kickoff: 7:45pm AEDST

loose advance to 8th

belchardo
06-02-2013, 08:17 AM
i believe we will loose. this has the bonus of helping any-team-but-mariners win the premiership.

pudy
06-02-2013, 09:45 AM
Would be happy with a point here.

1-1

Rocknerd
06-02-2013, 09:52 AM
A point will be a lucky outcome, we'll lose provably by 2 or more, the luck will mot be with us this time.

Jeterpool
06-02-2013, 10:01 AM
It's going to be tough. I thought they had a very good defence but was encouraged when Adelaide managed to get 2 past them next week.

Their attack, however, is starting to click and with our at times questionable defence I think we will concede at least 2.

2-1 loss but would be happy with a point.

la bazzle
06-02-2013, 10:10 AM
Win

OmeletteDuFromage
06-02-2013, 11:41 AM
4-1 loss.

sh10
06-02-2013, 12:00 PM
Need to win. Im thinking 2-1

BodyNovo
06-02-2013, 12:04 PM
3-0 jets

topor, labi & the puz to score....wait

Grimario
06-02-2013, 12:07 PM
Big loss. Campbelltown is almost as far away as Wellington and we all know how well we travel there.

MFKS
06-02-2013, 12:14 PM
**** the Where's Wally impersonators we are gonna ****ing WIN.

Cankles, Dapuzzo Beauchamp Topor Kressinger etc.

Reality is man for man we are better than them

parksey
06-02-2013, 12:54 PM
no chance

plague
06-02-2013, 12:57 PM
Reality is man for man we are better than them

Dead set do you even read this dribble before posting?
Right now, on form Poppa would swap one (Heskey) maybe two (Goodwin) players.
Might even give you R.Griff but that would be a stretch.

Buddha
06-02-2013, 01:19 PM
Dead set do you even read this dribble before posting?
Right now, on form Poppa would swap one (Heskey) maybe two (Goodwin) players.
Might even give you R.Griff but that would be a stretch.
+1

hawk
06-02-2013, 02:08 PM
Mitchell will run rings around shinji

furns
06-02-2013, 02:24 PM
So long as GVE goes back to the defence that actually stopped conceding goals (Regan in ffs) I can see us getting something out of this game.

Premy
06-02-2013, 03:03 PM
Jets 2-1 houso's

MFKS
06-02-2013, 05:50 PM
Dead set do you even read this dribble before posting?
Right now, on form Poppa would swap one (Heskey) maybe two (Goodwin) players.
Might even give you R.Griff but that would be a stretch.

FFS Plague I was talking it up plastic cup half full style
we should towel them coz remember half their squad are Newy rejects so our blokes must be better
:tongue:

RedMexican
06-02-2013, 07:02 PM
Dead set do you even read this dribble before posting?
Right now, on form Poppa would swap one (Heskey) maybe two (Goodwin) players.
Might even give you R.Griff but that would be a stretch.

+2 quality stuff plague, quality stuff

GazFish35
06-02-2013, 07:45 PM
Man for man we're better????

Shame it's one game of 11v11, not eleven games of 1v1

Thomas477
06-02-2013, 11:41 PM
Still reckon its stupid that our regional game is in Campbelltown FFS and not Tamworth, Coffs etc.

joel31
07-02-2013, 01:27 PM
Still reckon its stupid that our regional game is in Campbelltown FFS and not Tamworth, Coffs etc.
Campbelltown's basically a home game for them

Grimario
07-02-2013, 02:23 PM
The Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets have named an extended 19-man squad for Saturday’s Round 20 clash with Western Sydney Wanderers at Campbelltown Stadium.

Defender Sam Gallaway has been included in the squad after serving a one-match suspension in the Jets' 2-2 draw with Sydney FC at Hunter Stadium last weekend.

Midfielder James Brown was unavailable for selection due to family reasons, while Dominik Ritter will make his return to action with the Jets youth team on Sunday.

More details to follow…

Newcastle Jets squad:
1. Ben Kennedy (gk), 2. Scott Neville, 3. Zenon Caravella, 4. Josh Mitchell, 8. Ruben Zadkovich, 9. Emile Heskey, 11. Connor Chapman, 12. Josh Brillante, 13. Sam Gallaway, 14. Taylor Regan, 15. Craig Goodwin, 17. James Virgili, 18. Jacob Pepper, 19. Michael Bridges, 20. Mark Birighitti (gk), 22. Adam Taggart, 23. Ryan Griffiths, 25. Mitch Cooper, 26. Andrew Hoole.

Ins: Sam Gallaway, (returns from suspension), Taylor Regan, Jacob Pepper, Adam Taggart, Mitch Cooper (all elevated).
Outs: James Brown (family reasons).
Unavailable: Ben Kantarovski (knee).

All pre-purchased tickets to Saturday's game include travel from Newcastle to the venue on CityRail trains as well as free transport on regular Sydney Buses (STA) services, Liverpool to Parramatta T-way buses and Sydney Ferries services.

The Jets Members pre sale has now ended, but tickets can still be purchased by CLICKING HERE.

Ritter back from injury but into yoof first. Brown out due to family reasons.

goaliepersempre
07-02-2013, 02:35 PM
again no mention of ribs :(

Bon
07-02-2013, 02:39 PM
So if Brown is out due to family reasons, you think this could mean Caravella Koala is going to get a start??

Grimario
07-02-2013, 02:41 PM
You would think so... or perhaps Virgili with Griff in behind. Or Bridges!!!!!!!

evolution
07-02-2013, 02:47 PM
again no mention of ribs :(


Ribs was injured in the yoof game last weekend, could have something to do with it. Probably not though!

Jeterpool
07-02-2013, 03:24 PM
Ribs was injured in the yoof game last weekend, could have something to do with it. Probably not though!

A convenient excuse

Imyourhero
07-02-2013, 04:23 PM
Caravella in behind i reckon

zorse
07-02-2013, 06:31 PM
So if Brown is out due to family reasons, you think this could mean Caravella Koala is going to get a start??
They call him Caravella... (to the tune of the Caramello Koala song - I like it!)
But seriously, this guy should get more time given that Brown is unavailable and Ribeiro is in Kaz land. Although GVE will probably throw Pepper in out of the blue.
A win would be nice!

halo se7en
07-02-2013, 06:37 PM
Jets 4-2. Reminiscent of Adelaide away Season 1 - somehow travelled down there and won well when it really wasn't expected.

The way we play away from home on a regular basis is the best I've seen this season - the stats probably don't back it up, but we actually go to other grounds and attempt to play and actually threaten to score. I'm really not used to it.

Thomas477
07-02-2013, 07:33 PM
Campbelltown's basically a home game for them

That was my point, but the A-League says its a regional game.

militiamon
07-02-2013, 07:56 PM
Edit: nevermind

Thomas477
07-02-2013, 09:23 PM
Yeah, this is a pretty shit comment man, adding the last bit doesn't make it any better.

Why? I'm glad he's not playing due to football reasons, and excited that he's not, nothing personal. He hasn't impressed me, but GvE seems deadset on playing. That being said, I hope all is well with his family and that it is sorted as soon as possible so he can concentrate on improving his football. That is all, nothing malicious about it. Could I have rephrased it better with hindsight? Yes, and if you take offence with it I will remove it.

pistolpete
07-02-2013, 09:40 PM
Yeah probably best left unsaid. I know you didn't mean it that way but it reads poorly

hawk
07-02-2013, 10:09 PM
I still think brown has enough talent to come good. Decisions have been poor and confidence shot to pieces. seems like something is holding him back. If he gets it right he'll add a bit to the attack. wait'n'see i guess.

As for the result maybe we need WS to get 3 pts.

Thomas477
07-02-2013, 10:17 PM
Yeah probably best left unsaid. I know you didn't mean it that way but it reads poorly

Done. And Hawk, I hope you're right, but with Carvella this weekend, hopefully in the AM role, I think he will add more than Brown has.

Tbh I reckon he needs a couple of weeks in NYL so he can carve up and comeback with more confidence and willingness to take players on.

WolfMan
07-02-2013, 10:23 PM
I still think brown has enough talent to come good.

Me agree

seldom
07-02-2013, 10:34 PM
Me agree

we three agree

MFKS
07-02-2013, 10:57 PM
I still think brown has enough talent to come good. Decisions have been poor and confidence shot to pieces. seems like something is holding him back. If he gets it right he'll add a bit to the attack. wait'n'see i guess.

As for the result maybe we need WS to get 3 pts.

Rojas first season at Victree he was playing like he had just fund the game. Look at him go now.
If Brown turns it around half as well as Rojas he will be going great

I am sure Brown will turn it around

evolution
07-02-2013, 11:04 PM
Jets 4-2. Reminiscent of Adelaide away Season 1 - somehow travelled down there and won well when it really wasn't expected.

Shit I remember that game well. Watched it at the old United Sports Club and Con was there eating about 4 trays of seafood to himself. Nicky Carle bagged two (I think) and Zelic even put one away. Good times were had by all. Was that over 7 years ago? ****!

militiamon
07-02-2013, 11:20 PM
Pack of cxxxts on the facebook page as usual re Brown. Obviously it's serious if he's missing a game he would have been guaranteed to play in.

I understand that a section of fans don't like him, but cheering over him not being picked because something serious has happened to him/his family is just fxxxing low, even by our standards.

PS respect to thomas for at least having the decency to acknowledge this and admit to a mistake. Say what you will about nf.net, it's still 1000x more civilised than everywhere else.

MFKS
08-02-2013, 12:26 AM
Pack of cxxxts on the facebook page as usual re Brown. Obviously it's serious if he's missing a game he would have been guaranteed to play in.

I understand that a section of fans don't like him, but cheering over him not being picked because something serious has happened to him/his family is just fxxxing low, even by our standards.

PS respect to thomas for at least having the decency to acknowledge this and admit to a mistake. Say what you will about nf.net, it's still 1000x more civilised than everywhere else.


Bit I have highlighted just about sums it up. Only read the Jets FB page for a laugh at some of the deluded clowns there. Some of them have NFI

Pico
08-02-2013, 07:48 AM
Rojas first season at Victree he was playing like he had just fund the game. Look at him go now.
If Brown turns it around half as well as Rojas he will be going great

I am sure Brown will turn it around

Good so we are all in agreement, GVE=out. :tongue:

Jeterpool
08-02-2013, 08:40 AM
Pack of cxxxts on the facebook page as usual re Brown. Obviously it's serious if he's missing a game he would have been guaranteed to play in.

I understand that a section of fans don't like him, but cheering over him not being picked because something serious has happened to him/his family is just fxxxing low, even by our standards.

PS respect to thomas for at least having the decency to acknowledge this and admit to a mistake. Say what you will about nf.net, it's still 1000x more civilised than everywhere else.

This place is High Society compared to some of the stuff on facebook.

Thomas477
08-02-2013, 09:55 AM
I am sure Brown will turn it around

Despite being one of Brown's critics, I hope you are right MFKS, for the sack of our team. Brown once he starts going will be a great asset.

Grimario
08-02-2013, 10:26 AM
Bit I have highlighted just about sums it up. Only read the Jets FB page for a laugh at some of the deluded clowns there. Some of them have NFI
****ing aye. There was some dick on there blabbing on about how great some youth kid called Cail Burberry or something was the other day.


:gent:

MFKS
08-02-2013, 12:53 PM
****ing aye. There was some dick on there blabbing on about how great some youth kid called Cail Burberry or something was the other day.


:gent:

Someone always has to be a SMARTARSE :sup: :rof:

joel31
08-02-2013, 02:20 PM
Rojas first season at Victree he was playing like he had just fund the game. Look at him go now.
If Brown turns it around half as well as Rojas he will be going great

I am sure Brown will turn it around

Brown definitely will. He was class at Gold Coast

Grimario
08-02-2013, 07:52 PM
Michael Bridges ‏@MickyBridges8
Gutted to be left out of the traveling squad 4 Wanderers match as I was looking forward 2 twisting @elrich11 & Nikolai-T into the ground

Well then, definitely not Bridges. Koala it would seem is the obvious option then.

Schultz
08-02-2013, 08:02 PM
4-nil W/syd.

Blackmac79
08-02-2013, 08:58 PM
Well we will have far fewer turnovers with bridges not being there.

Football is us
08-02-2013, 10:47 PM
Well we will have far fewer turnovers with bridges not being there.

And we'll be less creative

Buddha
08-02-2013, 11:11 PM
And we'll be more creative as we wont be losing the ball so much

Couldnt have said it better myself

Football is us
08-02-2013, 11:21 PM
Couldnt have said it better myself

As we've been so creative for the opposition, losing the ball when playing it out from the back! Great tactician our Van God, pity Sydney couldn't lure him.

My2BobsWorth
09-02-2013, 04:31 PM
Well we will have far fewer turnovers with bridges not being there.

Bridgey baiting by the master baiter

Blackmac79
09-02-2013, 04:38 PM
Bridgey baiting by the master baiter

I do what I can.


Just a heads up to anyone going to the game. You won't be able to enter the Leagues club with club gear on.

Go to the tennis club instead. Its at the Newcastle end of the ground anyway.

q-money
09-02-2013, 05:15 PM
lol, what kind of leagues club doesn't let you in if you are wearing sporting gear

hilarious

stopper2
09-02-2013, 05:25 PM
Can't wait to see the starting XI. GVE nearly always seems to spring a surprise or two in his selections. Will it be Chapman and Mitchell or Regan. Neville, Hoole or Gallaway at RB/LB or will Goodwin be dropped back to LB. Will Virgili start or most probably be on the bench. Will young Cooper be thrown in a la Oxborrow or will he get a start on the bench. Will Taggart be in the starting XI or on the bench. Like a box of chocolates you never know what you're gonna get with GVE.

380
09-02-2013, 05:44 PM
^ This

They reckon Sports Tab take more money on who the Tinker man is going with than the actual result of the game.

Grimario
09-02-2013, 06:12 PM
Hot tip, Taggart starting with Heskey playing in behind him.

My2BobsWorth
09-02-2013, 06:25 PM
Egg is the Wylie Coyote of the A league

OmeletteDuFromage
09-02-2013, 07:06 PM
Hot tip, Taggart starting with Heskey playing in behind him.

Oh god I hope so

Grimario
09-02-2013, 07:32 PM
Oh god I hope so

How disappointing. Here I was hoping to be like one of those annoying 16 year old fake agents with a hot insider tip that I just made up.

:gent:

Grimario
09-02-2013, 07:57 PM
Team sheet posted.

Birra
Neville - Chapo - Mitchell - Gallaway
Zadko - Koala
Virgili - Griff - Goodwin
Heskey

Bench is Duncan, Brilliante, COOPER and Taggard

snake
09-02-2013, 08:12 PM
loose

plague
09-02-2013, 08:14 PM
Bench is Duncan, Brilliante, COOPER and Taggard

Got to be the youngest bench ever huh?
Looose 4-1, GVE to unearth the new Pinto.
Can't wait.

Bon
09-02-2013, 08:14 PM
I don't know why, but I've got a baaaad feeling about this one..

Thomas477
09-02-2013, 08:20 PM
It's not that bad a team, nor bench. I will be interested to see how Caravella goes in the holding mid role.

:popcorn:

plague
09-02-2013, 08:23 PM
It's not that bad a team, nor bench. I will be interested to see how Caravella goes in the holding mid role.

:popcorn:

Thomas, fillin that glass up half full again. I love your optimism mate.

halo se7en
09-02-2013, 08:25 PM
Caravella starting… I'll change my prediction from 4-2 to 5-1 to the Jets. Worth a goal both ways!

Grimario
09-02-2013, 08:27 PM
It's not that bad a team, nor bench. I will be interested to see how Caravella goes in the holding mid role.
:popcorn:

I love your optimism. Fully expecting hoof balls from the back for the majority of the game, nothing to change with Koala in the holding role.

/wrists

snake
09-02-2013, 08:29 PM
rip reegz.

Beeen
09-02-2013, 08:39 PM
Hersi hat trick

Buddha
09-02-2013, 08:39 PM
the putrid combo of gallaway and mitchell back together

Newieutd
09-02-2013, 08:49 PM
average lineup by the jets

really need Heskey to smack the crap out of the topor and the like

snake
09-02-2013, 08:52 PM
caramello gifting posession away early

Grimario
09-02-2013, 08:57 PM
average lineup by the jets

It's not that bad a team, nor bench.

:gent:

Some great early touches by Caravella.

plague
09-02-2013, 09:00 PM
:gent:

Some great early touches by Caravella.

hey, anytime you can pick up a bloke who cant get a run in his 4th A-League team at the expense of your club captain YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT.

weston
09-02-2013, 09:00 PM
I was thinking wow, the red and black blocq (what ever they are called) look big but i cant seem to see where the squadron is..... Next minute Zad's takes a free kick and the commentator says that Zads is lining up the kick in front of the Squadron who are situated behind him.... there's no way we can see the squadron on tv.... dissapointing

Buddha
09-02-2013, 09:02 PM
I haven't seen caravella make a completed pass yet...

Beeen
09-02-2013, 09:05 PM
We're shite

Grimario
09-02-2013, 09:07 PM
I haven't seen caravella make a completed pass yet...

He has completed at least 3 to WSW...

And to be fair, I think he put the pass in that Goodwin ran on to before losing it.

My2BobsWorth
09-02-2013, 09:16 PM
caramello gifting posession away early

That was Bridgey

plague
09-02-2013, 09:22 PM
sup with Goodwin?
dude seems to be going at half pace.

Buddha
09-02-2013, 09:24 PM
sup with Goodwin?
dude seems to be going at half pace.

In all his time with us. I don't think I have seen him produce a successful cross, always seem to cut in. Do we actually have anyone who can cross a ball???

plague
09-02-2013, 09:25 PM
Andy Harper just discovered we are playing 2 defensive mids. Seems to think Shinji and Mooy might be better than Caravella and Rubes.


Dude gets paid for this?

plague
09-02-2013, 09:26 PM
We're shite

By 'we' you mean Neville and Caravella right?

boz-monaut
09-02-2013, 09:28 PM
Bridge - ****ing up in the A-League since it started

plague
09-02-2013, 09:30 PM
Bridge - ****ing up in the A-League since it started

and someone had the nerve to pick a blue with me the other day when i told him Bridge has never scored an A-League goal EVER.

boz-monaut
09-02-2013, 09:31 PM
mong brigade got a few seconds on the telly there

boz-monaut
09-02-2013, 09:33 PM
Gallaway is not a defender

play him in a position he can do or **** him off

Buddha
09-02-2013, 09:33 PM
"Gallaway out of position"

Not for the first time

Buddha
09-02-2013, 09:35 PM
Gee mooy can hit a fk

Grimario
09-02-2013, 09:36 PM
"Gallaway out of position"

Out of position in the same way Neville is always out of position? We are shit, constant turnovers with our fullbacks miles up the pitch.

Beeen
09-02-2013, 09:38 PM
Scott Neville, living up to his reputation as a useless Carnt

Newieutd
09-02-2013, 09:38 PM
Scott Neville, living up to his reputation as a useless Carnt

I dont remember him doing anything positive for the Jets

stopper2
09-02-2013, 09:38 PM
How many goals has Neville cost us this year?

Buddha
09-02-2013, 09:39 PM
Out of position in the same way Neville is always out of position? We are shit, constant turnovers with our fullbacks miles up the pitch.

I feel much comfortable with Hoole and Ritter as our fullbacks

Grimario
09-02-2013, 09:39 PM
I hope Thomas hasn't dropped his half full glass. At least when I throw mine at the TV in disgust, it is already half empty.


We looked better in patches that half... both Caravella and Zad dropping back to provide options is great but if Caravella could stop passing the ball to WSW, that would be a great help.

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 09:40 PM
So much room hersi could have had a cup if tea before poking it home. Feel sorry for the bizzness. Dude would have clean sheets every week with any other team bar smellington

westjet
09-02-2013, 09:40 PM
Neville out - Hoole in

Stupid free kick to give away any time in the game let alone 30 seconds before half time!

Newieutd
09-02-2013, 09:40 PM
mong brigade got a few seconds on the telly there

saw that

Newieutd
09-02-2013, 09:42 PM
Neville out - Hoole in

Stupid free kick to give away any time in the game let alone 30 seconds before half time!

thats what hurts the most - the attacker was doing nothing.

pv4
09-02-2013, 09:42 PM
some schoolboy stuff out there that IMO is completely due to gve's mismanagement.

why don't we have players on the posts for a freekick taken basically from the same spot as a corner?

and when we set players on the post on a corner - why does our right footer sit on the right post & the left footer on the other? since when do you not have the players main foot on the open goal side?

school boy stuff. would have thought gve would have this kid stuff covered - he loves coaching kids, after all.

we are getting suffocated in the middle, and as usual our wide players have cancelled themselves out of the game so we have no options. we must be the easiest team to defend against in the league.

love the system, gve

Grimario
09-02-2013, 09:42 PM
I feel much comfortable with Hoole and Ritter as our fullbacks

I prefer Gallaway... he beats Ritter for speed and with them both caught out of position every other time we turn over the ball, he gets back and contests more often.

TBH, I think Ritter's best game for us was at centre back. Mitchell out, Ritter in. Neville out, Hoole in. Would love for our fullbacks to hang back just that little bit longer until the ball actually gets OUT of the backline... but clearly that isn't the instruction they have.

Buddha
09-02-2013, 09:47 PM
I prefer Gallaway... he beats Ritter for speed and with them both caught out of position every other time we turn over the ball, he gets back and contests more often.

TBH, I think Ritter's best game for us was at centre back. Mitchell out, Ritter in. Neville out, Hoole in. Would love for our fullbacks to hang back just that little bit longer until the ball actually gets OUT of the backline... but clearly that isn't the instruction they have.

No, Gallaway out, Ritter in. Ritter is so much better then Gallaway in every sense of the game. Gallaway is not a defender standard, being able to scramble does not constitute you a defender

belchardo
09-02-2013, 09:50 PM
i don't think we're playing all that badly. we aren't playing well, but we're (or we were) holding our own.

genius tackle there by neville.

so, jobe got smashed for passing the ball backwards too often, can someone inform me how many passes zads has hit forward in the same position? i wasn't paying too much attention during the first 20 minutes so i'm not sure. i haven't seen a forward pass from him. so it's probably not the players, but GVE's system.

in summary, GVE out.

belchardo
09-02-2013, 09:51 PM
taking the glass half full approach, WSW currently 2 points behind the scum. carn the wanderers!

Grimario
09-02-2013, 09:52 PM
GVE's system.

in summary, GVE out.
Yep.

And Buddha... doesn't matter which fullbacks we have on the pitch, they will always look like AIDS unless they ignore the PLAY NEXT TO THE WINGER instructions they seem to have.

Retro Jet
09-02-2013, 09:57 PM
taking the glass half full approach, WSW currently 2 points behind the scum. carn the wanderers!

4 actually if they win...

Melb really stuffed up last night

Grimario
09-02-2013, 09:59 PM
Ahahah, fook mi.

Buddha
09-02-2013, 10:00 PM
I think Neville confirmed his place in the stands next game

pv4
09-02-2013, 10:00 PM
we really really need Joel griffiths to be running off heskey.

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 10:04 PM
So is regs still being punished? What a steaming pile of shit that is

Grimario
09-02-2013, 10:06 PM
So is regs still being punished? What a steaming pile of shit that is
Fo realz. Mitchell has been more AIDS ridden in possession than Caravella, just lucky that a few of his shit pass attempts have ricocheted to him rather than being turnovers.

pv4
09-02-2013, 10:06 PM
how is biraz allowed to wear the same colored socks as the wsw outfield players ffs

ffs this league is a joke in regards to what they allow clubs to wear for each game

also why dafuq is our gk wearing the main colour of our main rival?

belchardo
09-02-2013, 10:07 PM
4 actually if they win...

Melb really stuffed up last night

damn. you've ruined my night. :)

belchardo
09-02-2013, 10:09 PM
how is biraz allowed to wear the same colored socks as the wsw outfield players ffs

ffs this league is a joke in regards to what they allow clubs to wear for each game

also why dafuq is our gk wearing the main colour of our main rival?

really? who gives a shit? we've got bigger issues to deal with than the keepers fashion sense.

he's having another great game tonight though. pity the defence is playing to their normal standard.

Newieutd
09-02-2013, 10:11 PM
No, Gallaway out, Ritter in. Ritter is so much better then Gallaway in every sense of the game. Gallaway is not a defender standard, being able to scramble does not constitute you a defender

Ritter is shit

belchardo
09-02-2013, 10:11 PM
the call and response RBB have going sounds really good.

Retro Jet
09-02-2013, 10:20 PM
taking the glass half full approach, WSW currently 2 points behind the scum. carn the wanderers!


4 actually if they win...

Melb really stuffed up last night


damn. you've ruined my night. :)

Don't worry, I'm with you Bel.
WSW now the great Black and Red hope....

westjet
09-02-2013, 10:23 PM
why is connor chapman the target for nearly all our free kicks into the box and corners?

Beeen
09-02-2013, 10:23 PM
Why can't anyone in our team deliver a ****ing decent cross?

Thomas477
09-02-2013, 10:26 PM
I hope Thomas hasn't dropped his half full glass. At least when I throw mine at the TV in disgust, it is already half empty.

It's empty now. We have absolutely nothing in attack. Everyone has figured out Virgilli and Goodwin's game. And throw in the fact that Heskey is being man marshalled by Topor, we have nothing. Mitchell is pants, Gallaway solid when he's not 40m out of position and Neville can **** right off. Hoole, Ritter and Regz in. Carvella is playing too deep and Griffo has disappeared.

Where can I sign up for the we are shit group?

Only positives is Biraz :wub:, Chapman and Rubez.

Next year I would love to see us invest in one or two top class wingers to help give Heskey service.

weston
09-02-2013, 10:27 PM
Why can't anyone in our team deliver a ****ing decent cross?

1 in 12 games we get 1 decent cross in... rest are shit

pistolpete
09-02-2013, 10:27 PM
Ritter is shit

Ritter is shitter would have sounded better

weston
09-02-2013, 10:28 PM
seriously whats up with the rbb turning their backs to the game???? if i was playing for them i would see that as disrespectful, especially when they are winning and not getting pumped 5 zip????

EDIT: Wish i had turned my back

Grimario
09-02-2013, 10:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szE_qmzavQ

westjet
09-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Mitchell over regan - great call Gary! schooled by bridge ffs

cheflyf
09-02-2013, 10:33 PM
Aids aids aids

snake
09-02-2013, 10:35 PM
so, jobe got smashed for passing the ball backwards too often, can someone inform me how many passes zads has hit forward in the same position? i wasn't paying too much attention during the first 20 minutes so i'm not sure. i haven't seen a forward pass from him. so it's probably not the players, but GVE's system.

in summary, GVE out.

did it last game too.

Retro Jet
09-02-2013, 10:37 PM
Wot a joke this phucking League is, eh?
A bunch of old Coastie mongs and the League's rejects sit in 1st and 2nd place respectively.

380
09-02-2013, 10:37 PM
It's empty now. We have absolutely nothing in attack. Everyone has figured out Virgilli and Goodwin's game. And throw in the fact that Heskey is being man marshalled by Topor, we have nothing. Mitchell is pants, Gallaway solid when he's not 40m out of position and Neville can **** right off. Hoole, Ritter and Regz in. Carvella is playing too deep and Griffo has disappeared.

Where can I sign up for the we are shit group?

Only positives is Biraz :wub:, Chapman and Rubez.

Next year I would love to see us invest in one or two top class wingers to help give Heskey service.

What took you soooooooooooo long

plague
09-02-2013, 10:39 PM
the dickhead coach should be hauled in to the boss' office and told to get over himself and pick the best team each week regardless of whether someone made a cranky face at you one week.
But then again the "boss" seems to be as spineless as the coach.
success and failure both start at the top, no use heaping all the blame on the players.

weston
09-02-2013, 10:39 PM
Zad <3 Griff <3

380
09-02-2013, 10:42 PM
the dickhead coach should be hauled in to the boss' office and told to get over himself and pick the best team each week regardless of whether someone made a cranky face at you one week.
But then again the "boss" seems to be as spineless as the coach.
success and failure both start at the top, no use heaping all the blame on the players.


Will not happen, that would be to concede bringing GVE back was a cock up of monumental proportions.

Retro Jet
09-02-2013, 10:42 PM
Bridge: "I was lucky enough to get the better of him (Josh Mitchell)"
It ain't hard mate....

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 10:45 PM
Glad to see militiaman is happy and Gary has proven that he is in fact in charge. Bra-****ing-vo. Regs played what 2 games? Was easily best in defence. Meanwhile we drop points all because of van ****ing ego. Glad I'm a wanderers supporter. We were terrible. Score line flattered us.



Glad hamo Azzurri is almost back

OmeletteDuFromage
09-02-2013, 10:45 PM
Ryan........uhh............Griffiths............uh h.........umm.................

westjet
09-02-2013, 10:47 PM
the dickhead coach should be fired
success and failure both start at the top, no use heaping all the blame on the players.

fixed

weston
09-02-2013, 10:53 PM
Glad hamo Azzurri is almost back

Hamilton Azzurri... where i started paying club football... still one of the best fields i've played on is smith park... the only standout better field would be bear park (or thomas and coffey as i think its called now).

Back on topic... Jets were rather poor.

Grimario
09-02-2013, 11:01 PM
Highlight of the night for me was la baz following me on twitter. Almost made me forget about how awful we are.

seldom
09-02-2013, 11:01 PM
some schoolboy stuff out there that IMO is completely due to gve's mismanagement.

why don't we have players on the posts for a freekick taken basically from the same spot as a corner?

and when we set players on the post on a corner - why does our right footer sit on the right post & the left footer on the other? since when do you not have the players main foot on the open goal side?
school boy stuff. would have thought gve would have this kid stuff covered - he loves coaching kids, after all.

we are getting suffocated in the middle, and as usual our wide players have cancelled themselves out of the game so we have no options. we must be the easiest team to defend against in the league.

love the system, gve

Serious ? This is not IDs. If players cant clear with their weaker foot what are they doin in A league ffs. When the keeper wins possession would much rather my FBs releasing on their strong side for the counter.

plague
09-02-2013, 11:03 PM
ok so im pissed off and piling on a bit BUT
in the Fox interview Van Egmond said that Ryan Griffiths was playing too high and that why WSW bossed the midfield in the first half. He then said "we rectified that at halftime".
ummmm has anyone told him hes allowed to talk to his players from the bench? how can he see that and do nothing til halftime?
He also singled out Caravella as being really good and the type of player a 6 or 8 should be. Maybe a dig at Jobe? but surprise surprise hes going to pump up a player that he shafted the captain for.
so sick of this shit.

Grimario
09-02-2013, 11:05 PM
Caravella was good? He had at least 5 touches in the first half that went straight to opposition players... he made Mitchell look good with the ball, FFS. Crock of shit.

#GVEOUT

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 11:06 PM
Highlight of the night for me was la baz following me on twitter. Almost made me forget about how awful we are.

United we can bring back regz

pv4
09-02-2013, 11:11 PM
6 or 8? I thought caravella was brought in as a 10

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 11:12 PM
Hamilton Azzurri... where i started paying club football... still one of the best fields i've played on is smith park.

The field of dreams!

stopper2
09-02-2013, 11:15 PM
Mention has already been made of Neville and Mitchell being played when they have both been ordinary for most of the season. I would also like to add Griffiths as a # 10. Whenever he plays there he offers nothing, butchered a good chance just 30 seconds before WSW's 2nd goal. GVE's failure to recognise or admit the sides weaknesses or deficiencies has been the whole undoing this year.

seldom
09-02-2013, 11:22 PM
I know he has a lot of haters but letting NTS go was the worst decision we made...well that and signing Mitchell

stopper2
09-02-2013, 11:27 PM
I know he has a lot of haters but letting NTS go was the worst decision we made...well that and signing Mitchell
When you think back to season 6 under Branko, Topor was our player of the year. Had an ordinary season last year under GVE, then becomes arguably the form defender under Popovich this season......???

Grimario
09-02-2013, 11:29 PM
I know he has a lot of haters but letting NTS go was the worst decision we made...well that and signing Mitchell

When you think back to season 6 under Branko, Topor was our player of the year. Had an ordinary season last year under GVE, then becomes arguably the form defender under Popovich this season......???
So, what you are potentially saying is that Mitchell is one of the best defenders in the league but GvE is to blame? :gent:

Raw Boned Youngster
09-02-2013, 11:39 PM
As I have stated previously, Egg Van is a complete myth. He confirmed his football naivety tonight by selecting Ryan Griffiths as basically a central midfielder. I know a lot of people talk him up, but he ( Ryan ) is terrible without the ball and the idea of him working in that role is baffling. Egg seems to want to set players up to fail - maybe he wants to make Ryan a scapegoat or something, but that role is not his gig
Virgili still thinks he is playing under 15s with his one dimensional approach to the game and defenders must be very grateful when Egg head continually selects him. In saying all of that, I thought that in various stages of the game, we looked sharp and cohesive. I thought Caravella brought a lot of positives, but playing him so deep completely nullifies what he could bring to our attack. Again, I would question basically what the fark The Egg was thinking. I also thought that Goodwin seemed preoccupied and not really interested. Chapman showed genuine class on occasions. Egg van needs to change his playing style and study the mariners' structure. I would go with the 442 with a midfield diamond. Zad needs to play further up the park.

Birrighitti

Hoole Chapman ? Ritter

Brilliante
Caravella Goodwin

Zadkovich


Heskey Griffiths

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 11:42 PM
? = regz

Beeen
09-02-2013, 11:43 PM
Kovacic>Mitchell

sammydog
09-02-2013, 11:44 PM
? = regz

He is done at the jets while GVE is here. Squeezed out early in the season, took his chance, then gave GVE the perfect excuse to put him in exile again.

stopper2
09-02-2013, 11:44 PM
As I have stated previously, Egg Van is a complete myth. He confirmed his football naivety tonight by selecting Ryan Griffiths as basically a central midfielder. I know a lot of people talk him up, but he ( Ryan ) is terrible without the ball and the idea of him working in that role is baffling. Egg seems to want to set players up to fail - maybe he wants to make Ryan a scapegoat or something, but that role is not his gig
Virgili still thinks he is playing under 15s with his one dimensional approach to the game and defenders must be very grateful when Egg head continually selects him. In saying all of that, I thought that in various stages of the game, we looked sharp and cohesive. I thought Caravella brought a lot of positives, but playing him so deep completely nullifies what he could bring to our attack. Again, I would question basically what the fark The Egg was thinking. I also thought that Goodwin seemed preoccupied and not really interested. Chapman showed genuine class on occasions. Egg van needs to change his playing style and study the mariners' structure. I would go with the 442 with a midfield diamond. Zad needs to play further up the park.

Birrighitti

Hoole Chapman ? Ritter

Brilliante
Caravella Goodwin

Zadkovich


Heskey Griffiths
I take it ? = Regan.
Whenever he has played we have conceded the least amount of goals. The coach however clearly dislikes him so he would rather play one of his boys and lose games.

Thomas477
09-02-2013, 11:47 PM
He is done at the jets while GVE is here. Squeezed out early in the season, took his chance, then gave GVE the perfect excuse to put him in exile again.

To be fair though (and I know I've said this before but anyway), if I gave my boss a serve, I would expect punishment. All Regz had to do was keep his mouth shut rather than have a go at GvE.

That being said, given he's missed the last two week, hopefully GvE decides that's enough and recalls him for Mitchell. Or Ritter plays instead of Mitchell. Eitherway, Mitchell out.

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 11:49 PM
He is done at the jets while GVE is here. Squeezed out early in the season, took his chance, then gave GVE the perfect excuse to put him in exile again.

That's why I don't understand the van dicknose fan boys. Bloke is not picking players based on ability. We suffer because of this bullshit. Also how can anyone could not get pissed off about a newy boy, as newy as they come, not getting a start in a team which is supposed to be based on local talent.

Grimario
09-02-2013, 11:49 PM
Love the chalk board feature on fourfourtwo.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/aleague_chalkboard.aspx?season=2012&competition=214&match=453792

Successful crosses = zero
Caravella had a MUCH better second half with the ball. 5 stray passes in the first half, only 1 in the second.
What exactly are our holding midfielders doing? Two intercepts by Zadko, none by Caravella. What exactly are they holding?
Birra had what appears to be FIVE successful long hoofs. 15 missed the target.
Neville passed inside and backwards a lot more than Gallaway.

la bazzle
09-02-2013, 11:51 PM
To be fair though (and I know I've said this before but anyway), if I gave my boss a serve, I would expect punishment. All Regz had to do was keep his mouth shut rather than have a go at GvE.

That being said, given he's missed the last two week, hopefully GvE decides that's enough and recalls him for Mitchell. Or Ritter plays instead of Mitchell. Eitherway, Mitchell out.

He was right to give him a spray. It was a stupid decision. So regz is punished for being passionate and not wanting to lose??? Ok one week off ill give Gaz a bit of a break there but 2 weeks **** me dead what a joke. The team and results are more important than Gary's feelings

380
09-02-2013, 11:56 PM
To be fair though (and I know I've said this before but anyway), if I gave my boss a serve, I would expect punishment. All Regz had to do was keep his mouth shut rather than have a go at GvE.

That being said, given he's missed the last two week, hopefully GvE decides that's enough and recalls him for Mitchell. Or Ritter plays instead of Mitchell. Eitherway, Mitchell out.


What crap, did you see the spray Abbas gave all and sundry the other week. At least Farina had the man mangement skills to get it sorted and have him on the field the following week. This whole Regz episode says more about the muppet coach and his lack of people skills than Regz.

GVE is so full of himself it is frigg'n sickening. He actually thinks he is a good manager with his one season wonder. Sadly for the muppet there is readily available statistics that would suggest otherwise.

Rant over.

Imyourhero
10-02-2013, 12:01 AM
Caravella IS NOT a holding midfielder.
Pretty simple.
He needs to be in behind.

sammydog
10-02-2013, 12:08 AM
To be fair though (and I know I've said this before but anyway), if I gave my boss a serve, I would expect punishment. All Regz had to do was keep his mouth shut rather than have a go at GvE.

Punishment, yes. But would you be taken off your job and stuck in the closet?

Only a poor manager would punish you at work by taking you off what ever your working on and sticking you in the back ground, particularly if you are the best option. There are better ways to punish.

Effectively GVE's punishment here punishes the player, the club, his team mates and the fans.

Bremsstrahlung
10-02-2013, 12:41 AM
I've been told by all my coaches. He wants us to be pissed off if we don't make the squad. He wants us to fight for a spot. being angry you aren't in the starting 11 means you care and are passionate.

---------Birra----------

Hoole-Chap-Reg-Ritter

--Zad-----------Good*--
----------Ribs----------

-----Griff-Taggart*----

-------Heskey---------

Jesse23
10-02-2013, 01:25 AM
To be honest, jets were very ordinary tonight and werent even close to the wanderers! However i must give credit to the wanderers crowd, they were brilliant!!
Anyway, after a torture 4 months, I truely believe Gary is not up to aleague level standard as a coach! Why?
1. Today's possession was something like 60-40 in our fav, however we were never in the game or threatening?? Does not make sense! Why Gary?
2. The player who has the most touches in our side is not the attacking midfield (griff) but Biris!! Why Gary??
3. Neville can't defend.. Or pass .. Or play!! Why start him Gary when there are better options!
4. Why play zenon in a deep midfield screening role with ruben, when zenon got player of the year with adelaide last year as an attacking midfielder. Also he looked very underdone. Should have kept brillante who has done a good job! Why Gary!!!
5. I also have issues with ruben playing in central midfield. He played for Aust at right back.. He works hard and give 100%, but has NOT got the natural ability to play central and distribute the ball etc ..Why Gary!!
6. Mitchell first option is always sidewards or backward to the keeper. Is that possession football!! Why Gary??
7 Galloway!! Try's, defends ok but can't pass
8. Ryan Griffo as a #10, u must be joking!! Why Gary?? He is a wide player if that!! Ordinary this year except for penalties!!
8. Have concerns about Hesky! Was at the game and watched him closely tonight and he barely raised a sweat. Stands still up high and never drops between the lines to give us an options to go forward. Even on set peices, he is no where!! Why Gary!
8. Why do the wing backs push so high when we try play out from the back, giving our 2 centre halves no options. Then all of a sudden we loose the ball then get caught out!!! Have u not you seen the past 4 games Gary!! Why Gary???
8. As a past coach (coached my sons rep side), have a B licence, and a passionate spectator for the past 25+ years of Newcastle football, I'm getting more frustrated at the lack of understanding, structure, unity and imagination of the team. Players looked scared to play!! Finally, why Gary! I do not understand your team selections over that past 4 wks, we talk about high press-possession based football = definitely not , general play (boring - obvious) and players looking lost!! Why Gary?? And do not blame the players!!!

380
10-02-2013, 01:38 AM
I agree totally however i am sure the Member. Thomas or MM will be along shortly to aleviate any concerns you and i and the rest of Newcastle may have regarding GVE ability as a coach.

seldom
10-02-2013, 02:11 AM
This is A league no ?...surely if Reagan has fvcked up the club should fine him and as a club we all move on. This immature attitude is startin to wear thin even on the most hardened GVE fans I would imagine, but then goin by some of the comments ...maybe not.

seldom
10-02-2013, 02:17 AM
To be honest, jets were very ordinary tonight and werent even close to the wanderers! However i must give credit to the wanderers crowd, they were brilliant!!
Anyway, after a torture 4 months, I truely believe Gary is not up to aleague level standard as a coach! Why?
1. Today's possession was something like 60-40 in our fav, however we were never in the game or threatening?? Does not make sense! Why Gary?
2. The player who has the most touches in our side is not the attacking midfield (griff) but Biris!! Why Gary??
3. Neville can't defend.. Or pass .. Or play!! Why start him Gary when there are better options!
4. Why play zenon in a deep midfield screening role with ruben, when zenon got player of the year with adelaide last year as an attacking midfielder. Also he looked very underdone. Should have kept brillante who has done a good job! Why Gary!!!
5. I also have issues with ruben playing in central midfield. He played for Aust at right back.. He works hard and give 100%, but has NOT got the natural ability to play central and distribute the ball etc ..Why Gary!!
6. Mitchell first option is always sidewards or backward to the keeper. Is that possession football!! Why Gary??
7 Galloway!! Try's, defends ok but can't pass
8. Ryan Griffo as a #10, u must be joking!! Why Gary?? He is a wide player if that!! Ordinary this year except for penalties!!
8. Have concerns about Hesky! Was at the game and watched him closely tonight and he barely raised a sweat. Stands still up high and never drops between the lines to give us an options to go forward. Even on set peices, he is no where!! Why Gary!
8. Why do the wing backs push so high when we try play out from the back, giving our 2 centre halves no options. Then all of a sudden we loose the ball then get caught out!!! Have u not you seen the past 4 games Gary!! Why Gary???
8. As a past coach (coached my sons rep side), have a B licence, and a passionate spectator for the past 25+ years of Newcastle football, I'm getting more frustrated at the lack of understanding, structure, unity and imagination of the team. Players looked scared to play!! Finally, why Gary! I do not understand your team selections over that past 4 wks, we talk about high press-possession based football = definitely not , general play (boring - obvious) and players looking lost!! Why Gary?? And do not blame the players!!!

Good 1st post Deansy...but you aint gunna get the gig champ.

militiamon
10-02-2013, 03:21 AM
Pretty crappy game. Could have been a draw on another day, but there are still some big issues that have been around all season that still haven't been fixed.

Wanderers are a strong side at the moment, no question about that, but I can't help but wonder what would have happened if Heskey had put that one away in the first half. They have only lost 1 game since 9/12/12, but they've also only been scored against first two times (1 loss and 1 win). tbh their defence is not as solid as it seems either, we exposed them a few times tonight with some pretty simple passages of play. What has improved out of sight is their attack, they look like a completely different team from the one early in the season.


At least Farina had the man mangement skills to get it sorted and have him on the field the following week.

Hey idiot, did you hear about how Farina has benched Culina this weekend because of dissent? Great point you make there.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1289379/sydney-set-to-drop-culina-after-farina-row/?cs=12

sammydog
10-02-2013, 09:24 AM
Hey idiot, did you hear about how Farina has benched Culina this weekend because of dissent? Great point you make there.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1289379/sydney-set-to-drop-culina-after-farina-row/?cs=12


Lets see if Culina is dropped for a week or banished to youth for eternity.

De-Champ
10-02-2013, 09:32 AM
WSW look the same to me. What is different about them now is all those chances they have been creating are going in now.

pv4
10-02-2013, 09:33 AM
rbb looked great on the teev. the call return chant across halfway looked great.

wish we had a squillion lebs at our disposal too

boz-monaut
10-02-2013, 09:43 AM
I don't reckon you do

q-money
10-02-2013, 10:15 AM
great regional game double eff ay dickheads

also great to see van egmonds experiment with removing anyone with footballing talent and replacing them with a mutant teenage athlete going well, bravo

380
10-02-2013, 10:23 AM
Ali did play the following week, who made mention of Culina ????.

Anyways our pretend coach is at least consistent in some areas. Continues to select shite like Neville and Mitchell and he loses more games than he wins.

Blackmac79
10-02-2013, 11:08 AM
Well thats it for me.

**** the Pope, **** the queen, but most of all **** G.V.E

militiamon
10-02-2013, 11:39 AM
Personal highlights:

- Meeting MFKS :cool:
- The Fist
- The Asian women of Sydney omgyellowfever :wub:
- Leagues club, ffs, nightmare of a place
- Campbelltown stadium. Makes Hunter Stadium look like it has a running track with how close the pitch is.
- Wanderers crowd. Best I have personally witnessed in the A-League, probably close to Victory.
- The RBB ultra ladz who tried to discretely scout out the away bay by turning up after half-time on the Non-Alcohol End in a large group all wearing black polos + trainers. Hatamoto had their addresses, bank account details and health care numbers within 5 seconds :rof:

northern_swan
10-02-2013, 12:05 PM
Caravella was good? He had at least 5 touches in the first half that went straight to opposition players... he made Mitchell look good with the ball, FFS. Crock of shit.

#GVEOUT

I thought only Bridges was capable of that:sparring:

Great buy Vas Deferans!!!

Grimario
10-02-2013, 12:06 PM
I reckon I might have been a bit harsh... but he was average first half. Much better second half.

Jetmaster
10-02-2013, 12:08 PM
No fluidity, no creativity....and that is it.

We always look like we will cough up possession any pass, and we have nobody to run centrally at defenders. Griff had one moment like that in the first half - had it been Flores, Vidosic, ADP, Carle, Carlos etc they would have run at the line, done a one/two or fired a bomb. Rubes can shoot from there but needs time to tee up.

The season is all but gone - a win is a must on Friday to keep alive. Will be amazed if today is a draw and we are still 6th.

One positive was that Cooper looked energetic in his time on the pitch.

Tommyjet
10-02-2013, 12:38 PM
Only caught the second half and was completely livid with how we were playing until Neville went off and and cooper provided some spark, there were some very good passages of play for us attacking in the last 10 or so, too bad it's taken so long to see a glimpse of what gve is preaching.
I actually am confident most times sad gets the ball just out of the 18. I used to cringe and turn to my wife and say "pick a person on the hill who's gonna catch this one"

The Dunster
10-02-2013, 12:56 PM
If the players we have support what GVE is doing then we need new players.

Becuase if they are happy with the shit thats going on then it is obvious they are only in it for a pay check.

The only player we had who actually gave a **** about the fans left the club last week.

The current players couldn't give a flying ****. If they cared they would either walk out or demand change.

parksey
10-02-2013, 12:59 PM
He was right to give him a spray. It was a stupid decision. So regz is punished for being passionate and not wanting to lose??? Ok one week off ill give Gaz a bit of a break there but 2 weeks **** me dead what a joke. The team and results are more important than Gary's feelings

he had no right to do that to his coach; it was pretty clear that it was just a misunderstanding.

still it's ridiculous that regan is still not in the team due to that incident.

militiamon
10-02-2013, 01:23 PM
Disagree with the people who are having a whinge about the whole neutral venue thing.

Would much rather have it at a place with 10,000 fans going mental than in the middle of nowhere in front of 2,000 mutes with minimal affiliation to either team before and after the match. We had this debate last season with the Bathurst game, I think this proves my point.

NewcastleForLife
10-02-2013, 01:41 PM
Disagree with the people who are having a whinge about the whole neutral venue thing.

Would much rather have it at a place with 10,000 fans going mental than in the middle of nowhere in front of 2,000 mutes with minimal affiliation to either team before and after the match. We had this debate last season with the Bathurst game, I think this proves my point.

The problem is that it gives half the league more home games than the rest. Plus we should be exposing the game to new regions.
Having said that I'm fine with WSW getting an extra home game in their debut season, plus RBB is probably the second best supporters behind Victory, that whole stadium chant was quite impressive IMO

MFKS
10-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Disagree with the people who are having a whinge about the whole neutral venue thing.

Would much rather have it at a place with 10,000 fans going mental than in the middle of nowhere in front of 2,000 mutes with minimal affiliation to either team before and after the match. We had this debate last season with the Bathurst game, I think this proves my point.


Feel they should have been playing a Perth Nix Adelaide etc in their regional round at Campbelltown rather than making us Newy fans have to travel that extra hour(compared to parramatta) to the game.

The whole regional round thing is a ****ing farce. Sydney held a game at Campbelltown last year?? Why

Victory play in Launceston and not Geelong or say a Ballarat/Bendigo

Adelaide get an extra home game cause they deem Adelaide rural enough already.

Newy play Adelaide in all places Bathurst as opposed to regional SA or NNSW??



Nothing wrong with the regional round as an idea but there has to be some uniformity and consistency as to how it is done not the hap hazard biased approach there seems to be with it.

Either we go to regional places like Bathurst, Ballarat Launceston etc or we go to places the HAL may end up soon and start putting the stake in the ground in Wollongong Canberra Geelong Townsville etc

GazFish35
10-02-2013, 02:42 PM
Disagree with the people who are having a whinge about the whole neutral venue thing.

Would much rather have it at a place with 10,000 fans going mental than in the middle of nowhere in front of 2,000 mutes with minimal affiliation to either team before and after the match. We had this debate last season with the Bathurst game, I think this proves my point.

As would I. Me agree with your point about allowing the new club another home game, and it was smart to have it in Campbelltown to further their reach. As sydneyfc had made links with MacArthur last night would help to garner even more red and lack support down that way.

Just wish the ffa wouldn't try and label it as something it isn't.

Last night was for all purposes a WSW home game, they were running the pregame and half time, and ground announcing, it was parramatta further south. They played gangnam style ffs. Don't treat us like fools and expect us to cop 12 home games and 13 away by telling us one of the away games would be at neutral ground.

Next year our "neutral" venue should be Birmingham gardens.

Jeterpool
10-02-2013, 03:50 PM
Just watched the game.

Agree our fluidity isn't there. We take far too long on the ball and the one or two times we moved the ball really wuickly we looked ok. The speed needs to increase.

The fullbacks pushing so high reduces our options to pass out. I'll be watching Brisbane and victory the next few games to see where their fullbacks sit. It's reducing the effect of our wingers because the are both sitting on halfway having a chat.

Regan needs to return.

Neville should be dropped. Hoole in.

Gallaway can attack but liability in defence. This is contributed to by the "system"

There was a massive gap central mid. With both holders dropping and griff remaining high we really lacked options

I don't know what's up with Goodwin but it needs some attention.

I feel sorry for Heskey. Guy gets no service and has to drop deep just to get a touch.

Maybe need to go back to basics. We look lost. Devoid of attacking options or general passing quality

I'd hate to think where we would be without birraz in goals

plague
10-02-2013, 04:05 PM
Next year our "neutral" venue should be Birmingham gardens.

I reackon it should be at Magic or Olympics home ground just so we can witness ForeverRed's head explode.

ForeverRed
10-02-2013, 04:59 PM
I reackon it should be at Magic or Olympics home ground just so we can witness ForeverRed's head explode.

why would you say this

MFKS
10-02-2013, 05:21 PM
I reackon it should be at Magic or Olympics home ground just so we can witness ForeverRed's head explode.

Plague someday's I wonder who the biggest troll is on here. You are definitely up there

Well played sir :gent::wink:

RedMexican
10-02-2013, 06:16 PM
I reackon it should be at Magic or Olympics home ground just so we can witness ForeverRed's head explode.

Nah i reckon olympics.
That canteen :wub:

parksey
10-02-2013, 07:02 PM
just a few stats from the game, according to the a-league iphone ap:

possession %: wsw 34 - newcastle 66
goal attempts: wsw 19 (7 on target) - newcastle 10 (3 on target)
penalty area entries: wsw 21 - newcastle 14
passes: wsw 263 (176 accurate) - newcastle 535 (450 accurate)
crosses: wsw 21 - newcastle 27

looks to me like the front third is definitely the problem. gve said post-game that he feels like the team needs more "natural goal-scorers"; what a shame someone like joel griffiths isn't available...

Superdylan
10-02-2013, 07:09 PM
Amusing train trip back from campbelltown to strathy, had some wasted 40 yo lady (jets fan) not knowing where to go, then she decided to get off at merrylands (hope it wasn't Maryland for her sake lols) She also gave it to a bunch of wsw fans that kept coming through our train carriage singing and blowing horns.

As for the game I noticed no one cheered our goal for about 5 seconds or so, did many miss seeing it be scored?

Other highlights of the day:
.Kebab at strathy station on the way to the game
.Those wsw fans giving it large at games start, then seeing them get asked to leave, phoar they have some characters
out that way
.Dale cavese moshpit

Grimario
10-02-2013, 07:24 PM
just a few stats from the game, according to the a-league iphone ap:

possession %: wsw 34 - newcastle 66
goal attempts: wsw 19 (7 on target) - newcastle 10 (3 on target)
penalty area entries: wsw 21 - newcastle 14
passes: wsw 263 (176 accurate) - newcastle 535 (450 accurate)
crosses: wsw 21 - newcastle 27

looks to me like the front third is definitely the problem. gve said post-game that he feels like the team needs more "natural goal-scorers"; what a shame someone like joel griffiths isn't available...

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/aleague_chalkboard.aspx?season=2012&competition=214&match=453792

66% possession means SFA when the biggest distributor of the ball is your centre backs. I reckon Chapman had around 80 of those passes. Birra is pushing 40, Mitchell is well over 50 and well over half of Double-Z's attempts are in our half.

NewcastleForLife
10-02-2013, 07:44 PM
Quite simple, wing backs are pushing so far forward that they're practically sitting on top of our wingers so the opposition only need one defender on each wing to defend effectively. This means the CB only have themselves and the Birriz to pass to. Then the opposition uses their extra players (not used to mark on the wings) to press high and pressure our midfield and eventually our CB's. Leads to many silly mistakes and also the stupid amount of passes between our two CBs and Birriz. Watch any other team that uses wing backs and they don't push forward until the ball is in the opposite half because they're sitting back to help out the CBs.
No idea how GVE doesn't see this.
Also how he plays Mitchell over Regan.
I don't think Xenon was that horrible, it's just impossible to play in the screening position atm because of the extra pressure on our midfield due to our advanced wingbacks.

belchardo
10-02-2013, 07:48 PM
Amusing train trip back from campbelltown to strathy, had some wasted 40 yo lady (jets fan) not knowing where to go, then she decided to get off at merrylands (hope it wasn't Maryland for her sake lols) She also gave it to a bunch of wsw fans that kept coming through our train carriage singing and blowing horns.

As for the game I noticed no one cheered our goal for about 5 seconds or so, did many miss seeing it be scored?

Other highlights of the day:
.Kebab at strathy station on the way to the game
.Those wsw fans giving it large at games start, then seeing them get asked to leave, phoar they have some characters
out that way
.Dale cavese moshpit

always look forward to your game day wrap up.

GazFish35
10-02-2013, 07:56 PM
some wasted 40 yo lady (jets fan) not knowing where to go, then she decided to get off at merrylands (hope it wasn't Maryland for her sake lols)

you havent been to Merrylands have you?

pistolpete
10-02-2013, 08:15 PM
you havent been to Merrylands have you?

Lol

hauss
10-02-2013, 08:47 PM
I didn't think the Jets played that bad. The problem, again, was the lack of a real no. 10, once Griffiths went back to the right and Taggart came on we seemed to play a lot better. We even broke down their defence on two occasions in the last 15 minutes with some pretty intricate passing, and I haven't seen them do that in any game this season. We got down their end quite a bit but the final ball was almost always poor, which is a real concern. The late goal by Zadkovic shows just how little we use that shooting from distance option.

Really, considering the Wanderers are the in form team, and the way they pressed was pretty impressive. Their goals were from a goal mouth scramble after a poor foul by Neville and Bridge beating Mitchell in a foot race. So they didn't massacre us. If Heskey's shot went in it might have been a different story.

De-Champ
10-02-2013, 09:57 PM
You sem to forget Hersi should have scored before his toe pock, some other guy should have scored from that pass from ONO, the only thing keeeping the score at 2-1 was the keeper.

hawk
10-02-2013, 10:04 PM
As a past coach (coached my sons rep side), have a B licence, and a passionate spectator for the past 25+ years of Newcastle football, I'm getting more frustrated at the lack of understanding, structure, unity and imagination of the team.
Players looked scared to play!! Finally, why Gary! I do not understand your team selections over that past 4 wks! we talk about high press-possession based football = definitely not , general play (boring - obvious) and players looking lost!!

i agree with deans comments above. i have read all the above and what a picture we now face. this is gonna get messi.

Jeterpool
10-02-2013, 10:13 PM
You sem to forget Hersi should have scored before his toe pock, some other guy should have scored from that pass from ONO, the only thing keeeping the score at 2-1 was the keeper.

Birraz is our player of the season so far.

pv4
10-02-2013, 10:31 PM
Birraz is our player of the season so far.

bk would have saved everything biraz has, plus cured cancer though.

Hunter403
10-02-2013, 10:34 PM
GVE hasn't a clue. No man management skills at all and his ideas are to play a system his players are incapable of producing. Mitchell really hasn't got a clue. Regan, regardless of what has gone on should be in (but GVE isn't man enough to make such a call). Funny how Brisbane had a player call out the coaches weaknesses and he played the next week. At the Jets, Wehrman and Regan express their disagreement and they get the fond fairwell. Crap.
So what has Robiero done wrong? Why is Bridges unable to get a game? When the same rubbish each week isn't working, then change of tactics or personnel are needed and we all know that GVE won't change his tactics.
The defence has looked more sound when Regan is in. They look more creative when Bridges plays.
We seem to have a number of "10's" but which is the best for the job?

Thomas477
10-02-2013, 11:46 PM
So what has Robiero done wrong? Why is Bridges unable to get a game? When the same rubbish each week isn't working, then change of tactics or personnel are needed and we all know that GVE won't change his tactics.
The defence has looked more sound when Regan is in. They look more creative when Bridges plays.
We seem to have a number of "10's" but which is the best for the job?

Welcome to the foz. Cannae say anything for Ribz, but Bridges has played the last couple of home games.....
I agree with your points wrt to Regz and Bridges, but I don't think Bridges has the legs to last 90 mins anymore.

As for #10s, I can only see 4 clear options we have. Brown, playing like pants (hopefully he comes good eventually, did show at GCU he can play), Ribz, has pissed off GvE somehow or not impressed him, Bridges (can't last 90 IMO) and Caravella, who GvE sees playing next to Zad. RyGriff is not a #10, he is either a left winger or striker.

q-money
11-02-2013, 01:03 AM
I reckon the way to get ahead on here is to add a number to your user name hey

joel31, thomas477, t_bone_steak_69, hamma12, parksey10 (rip), SuperBoz1990

plague
11-02-2013, 10:28 AM
Plague someday's I wonder who the biggest troll is on here. You are definitely up there

Well played sir :gent::wink:

Don't sell yourself short mate.
You are the Black Caviar to my Hunter Winemaker of Trolls.

selassie
11-02-2013, 10:50 AM
not that bad really, ball movement a bit too slow.

remember when we beat them at parra even though they created the better chances.

MFKS
11-02-2013, 11:29 AM
Don't sell yourself short mate.
You are the Black Caviar to my Hunter Winemaker of Trolls.

I wasn't commenting on my abilities. That is up to others how they view my talents.

Just paying my respects to your efforts at mastering the craft :sup:

plague
11-02-2013, 11:51 AM
anyway back on topic.
So we're 7th and will get leapfrogged by another team if we lose on Friday.
Can't say I'm enjoying this.

Jetmaster
11-02-2013, 12:03 PM
Unless we beat both Heart and then Roar, I feel the season is then surely over - 5th and 6th places will be 4 or 5 points ahead of us depending on other results.

plague
11-02-2013, 12:13 PM
Unless we beat both Heart and then Roar, I feel the season is then surely over - 5th and 6th places will be 4 or 5 points ahead of us depending on other results.
Also remember that our goal difference is also up the shit so we'll need an extra point to get in front of those teams.

hawk
11-02-2013, 12:28 PM
If somehow we accidently land in the finals gve will be sure to stay.

MFKS
11-02-2013, 01:59 PM
If somehow we accidently land in the finals gve will be sure to stay.

Feel the Haters will be pissed either way. GVE will be in charge next year whether we lose our last 7 games or NOT.

Get used to it.

Grimario
11-02-2013, 02:11 PM
Feel the Haters will be pissed either way. GVE will be in charge next year whether we lose our last 7 games or NOT.
Why? Didn't Middleby say recently that the clubs aim this season was finals football? If we get zero points from 21 we are guaranteed to miss that... and with us playing all 3 teams that are below us, there is a fair chance that all will finish above us. If we get the spoon, do you think GVE will keep his job?

furns
11-02-2013, 02:21 PM
this is being discussed in other threads, keep this one for the match discussion please

sammydog
11-02-2013, 02:30 PM
Feel the Haters will be pissed either way. GVE will be in charge next year whether we lose our last 7 games or NOT.

Get used to it.

And after the season we have had, if we lost the last 7 games would you be still supportive of GVE continuing as coach.

I am used to him being the manager, and that will continue next year. Used to mediocrity and frustration.

hauss
11-02-2013, 03:11 PM
Nobody seems to be taking into account that WSW are playing on a high. They are experiencing the excitement of great crowd support in a club that represents a traditional football heartland. Everyone has bought into the mission and the players are feeding off the excitement. They seem to feel almost invincible.

We had a similar scenario at our club once before and it led us to a Championship.

In such circumstances I think the Jets did quite well.

Having to play Heart, Roar, Glory, Adelaide and the Pheonix in the last few rounds will be more of a true test of where we are at. If this system is going to work we need to dominate these teams, especially the ones we play at home.

ForeverRed
11-02-2013, 04:43 PM
why would you say this

ForeverRed
11-02-2013, 04:44 PM
I reackon it should be at Magic or Olympics home ground just so we can witness ForeverRed's head explode.
why would you say this

hotrod
11-02-2013, 04:46 PM
Having to play Heart, Roar, Glory, Adelaide and the Pheonix in the last few rounds will be more of a true test of where we are at. If this system is going to work we need to dominate these teams, especially the ones we play at home.

Lose, lose, lose, lose, draw. We're finished. Hope GVE is too.
#bringbackregz

plague
11-02-2013, 04:57 PM
why would you say this

Because you bristle every time someone dares mentions those clubs and amongst all the doom and gloom on here (justified, mind) that I made a subtle joke. If you were offended then I sincerely apologise. Also if you were offended please keep that in mind when commenting in the local forum.
Now, back on topic.

Grimario is summing up a lot of fans frustrations well.
Thomas and Hauss are keepin the dream alive.
I just want it all to end.

ForeverRed
11-02-2013, 05:06 PM
Because you bristle every time someone dares mentions those clubs and amongst all the doom and gloom on here (justified, mind) that I made a subtle joke. If you were offended then I sincerely apologise. Also if you were offended please keep that in mind when commenting in the local forum.
Now, back on topic.

Grimario is summing up a lot of fans frustrations well.
Thomas and Hauss are keepin the dream alive.
I just want it all to end.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts some times

sammydog
11-02-2013, 09:51 PM
Grimario is summing up a lot of fans frustrations well.
Thomas and Hauss are keepin the dream alive.
I just want it all to end.

That dream is rapidly becoming a nightmare.

hawk
11-02-2013, 10:09 PM
but we have a team in the big league:whistling:

plague
11-02-2013, 10:50 PM
That dream is rapidly becoming a nightmare.

Nah, embrace it. Gives the foz a reason to live.
Remember how bored we were in the gap between winning the comp and all our players leaving. Shittest 6 weeks of blokes lives.

More turmoil please club.

Pico
12-02-2013, 08:59 AM
Nah, embrace it. Gives the foz a reason to live.
Remember how bored we were in the gap between winning the comp and all our players leaving. Shittest 6 weeks of blokes lives.

More turmoil please club.

Like you need to ask.

true waterboy
14-02-2013, 10:28 AM
Been on a listening to lonely island all week so couldn't watch the game

Did I read correctly that my boy cooper got a run? How did he go ?

Jeterpool
14-02-2013, 10:36 AM
Been on a listening to lonely island all week so couldn't watch the game

Did I read correctly that my boy cooper got a run? How did he go ?

I thought he did ok. A few good touches and played Griff (i think) through. Not bad in the end