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hawk
28-02-2013, 12:56 PM
playing on heavy legs for this one. struggle

Tommyjet
28-02-2013, 01:05 PM
Nil all

Beeen
28-02-2013, 01:07 PM
We like playing teams back into form. Mexicanos 4 - Jerks 0

Retro Jet
28-02-2013, 03:09 PM
Do what we need to do with who ever this Sunday and hit Perth and Elister Adwards with all guns the week after.

Honoury mention to Hawk for thread title.
Still think my Rictory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0) gets a few hook, line and sinker occasionally.
The hits keep going up!

My2BobsWorth
28-02-2013, 03:58 PM
Could go heavy on defence, pray for a counter. For and against probably going to determine final placings.

plague
28-02-2013, 04:11 PM
Rojas will score 2 goals, from 68 and 112 meters out respectively.

We'll probably do something silly.

MFKS
28-02-2013, 04:44 PM
Rojas will score 2 goals, from 68 and 112 meters out respectively.

We'll probably do something silly.

Like play a 3 man defence of Josh Mitchell Scott Neville and Taylor Regan and see who can make the best **** up of the night???

q-money
28-02-2013, 05:35 PM
rectumry, deadset one of your worst

380
28-02-2013, 06:20 PM
Neville and Mitchell should be made to pay there own air fares, they are not even worth feeding for heavens sake.

hawk
28-02-2013, 09:46 PM
rectumry, deadset one of your worst

thanks joely madden

q-money
28-02-2013, 09:48 PM
big day for terrace politics if anyone's heading down, melbourne on the brink

boz-monaut
28-02-2013, 10:23 PM
"terrace politics"
:lulz:

stopper2
01-03-2013, 12:53 PM
Like play a 3 man defence of Josh Mitchell Scott Neville and Taylor Regan and see who can make the best **** up of the night???
Bit low to couple Reegz with those 2 after one ordinary game by his standards.
3 losses on the trot, Ange will have MV up for this one and with Archie back If we can manage a draw, I think that would be a decent result.

pv4
01-03-2013, 01:15 PM
big day for terrace politics if anyone's heading down, melbourne on the brink

aren't both the northern & southern terrace boycotting the game or something?

q-money
01-03-2013, 01:21 PM
first half, is over the CS spray in the WS game the other week and other things re police/security actions of groups in their ends

MFKS
01-03-2013, 04:37 PM
Bit low to couple Reegz with those 2 after one ordinary game by his standards.
3 losses on the trot, Ange will have MV up for this one and with Archie back If we can manage a draw, I think that would be a decent result.

Got to keep all things relevant.Good play is given its due respect. Turning in poor performance draws criticism. I am harsh but fair


I am sure even Taylor knows he ****ed up plenty on Wednesday and will be looking for a big game on Sunday

My2BobsWorth
01-03-2013, 04:53 PM
I think the weather gods thought we had a home game tonight

MFKS
01-03-2013, 05:03 PM
I think the weather gods thought we had a home game tonight


Gypos are at home tomorrow. Gods are just doing the right thing to discourage as many Gypos as possible from attending a 1v2 top of the table almost title decider game. Rain tomorrow like this and I deadset reckon WSW will outnumber them 2 to 1 in Gosford

lquiquer
01-03-2013, 05:38 PM
Gypos are at home tomorrow. Gods are just doing the right thing to discourage as many Gypos as possible from attending a 1v2 top of the table almost title decider game. Rain tomorrow like this and I deadset reckon WSW will outnumber them 2 to 1 in Gosford

No competition... They r going to get swamped, bear stadium will turn to black and blood

MFKS
03-03-2013, 03:47 PM
Kids and all we will beat this lot.

They are only ****ing Victorians.

We are better than them

Grimario
03-03-2013, 03:56 PM
Tonights line up... maybe. That's the 11 named though.


Birraz
Neville - Regz - Ritter - Goodwin
Brillante - Zadko
Hoole - Cooper - Taggart
Jesic

BK, Chapman, BERNARDO, Pepper

Just guessing that we will line up like that... otherwise Hooley at left back, Goodwin cutting in on the right?

cheflyf
03-03-2013, 04:01 PM
Mmmmmmm :(

militiamon
03-03-2013, 04:03 PM
Jesicccccc, yeewww

true waterboy
03-03-2013, 04:12 PM
need taggart upfront
bring chapman in for jesic so they can push up goodwin and then push tagz up front

Grimario
03-03-2013, 04:13 PM
need taggart upfront
bring chapman in for jesic so they can push up goodwin and then push tagz up front

Perhaps... but that's the 11 that has been named, not what I would pick.

militiamon
03-03-2013, 04:22 PM
Grimario, GVE will defs swap Goodwin and Hoole around in your formation (i.e Hoole at left-back, Goodwin at left/right wing).
Taggart will probably be at the point as well, although it wouldn't surprise me if Jesic was up front like you have there. Aside from that I think you're right.

Grimario
03-03-2013, 04:25 PM
Yeah, could go either way.

militiamon
03-03-2013, 04:29 PM
Be interesting to see who steps up, we don't really have any dominant individuals on the pitch apart from maybe Rubes. Shit could go badly if we go down a couple of goals.

Forza mutant children.

Mitchy
03-03-2013, 04:50 PM
C'mon the kids!

ToddG NBUnited
03-03-2013, 05:04 PM
this is pretty much the members dream squad, with perhaps jesic somewhere else lets see how they go.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:04 PM
this is pretty much the members dream squad, with perhaps jesic somewhere else lets see how they go.

nah goodwin's in. member would have rested him.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:06 PM
nah goodwin's in. member would have rested him.

And no Kale

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:13 PM
Jesus, that was horrific.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:14 PM
Too easy.

evolution
03-03-2013, 05:14 PM
Pisssssssssss! That was horrible...

Bon
03-03-2013, 05:16 PM
Arrrgh shit.. I can't see anything on the usual streaming sites..
Anyone got one thats working?

snake
03-03-2013, 05:16 PM
goodwin at fault

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:16 PM
What's the protest about? I missed it

evolution
03-03-2013, 05:17 PM
Arrrgh shit.. I can't see anything on the usual streaming sites..
Anyone got one thats working?

Here you are good sir: http://www.firstrow1.eu/watch/172509/1/watch-melbourne-victory-vs-newcastle-jets.html

westjet
03-03-2013, 05:18 PM
Arrrgh shit.. I can't see anything on the usual streaming sites..
Anyone got one thats working?


vipbox is working

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:19 PM
What's the protest about? I missed it

apparently sick of getting beaten on by the seco's

great save birra

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Birraz :wub:

Where would we be without you

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
this is going to be a massacre.

evolution
03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Birraz :wub:

Where would we be without you

10th.


Also: ****!

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
What's the protest about? I missed it


Okay everyone, this is the news about the terrace. This all came from a reliable source from an NT meeting. Please read! (This is all copy pasted from a message the person sent me yesterday):

"Memo: re – North Terrace supporters' meeting, re – course of action for North Terrace for next Sunday's game v Newcastle.
Present: Representatives of BWB, Horda, Nomadi, (ex?) ITA, SDC. Fratelli were not present but I am told they support us in our decisions.

We had a very good discussion about what's been happening and everybody's concerns and grievances were aired. We then discussed a course of action for next Suday. We have come to an agreement in consideration of a lot of things. I took notes.
Proposed protest action:
Order of the day re whole match, whole NT: No flags, no standards, no drum. Fence banners upside-down
First half: North Terrace stands in complete silence.
Throughout the half, a number of protest banners are dislplayed throughout the NT (every 5-10 minutes). Was agreed that all / most banners should be yellow on black concrete underlay, in symbolic support of Horda. Also agreed – nothing offensive / provocative – just tell the truth in plain English.
Second Half: Limited chanting, co-ordinated through megas. Some pro-team (but nothing too 'happy'), but also protest chants (e.g. we are not criminals, can try out some others). More strisciones.
To ensure North Terrace participation:
We start promoting this on Monday via whatever means of communication possible. All agreed to an open and well-organised campaign for the sake of accountability.
On match day, leaflets to be distributed on NT. SDC will also try to get the South End to be silent as possible (shouldn't be too hard!)
To promote positive response from everyone else, the following have been approved:
– An open letter to be distributed to regular MVFC fans (5,000 – 10,000 copies) explaining our actions, our reasons and thanking them for their ongoing support.
– An open letter to the players explaining our actions, our reasons and thanking them for their ongoing effort, also asking them to not take any lack of atmosphere personally, and thanking them for our ongoing support.
– An open letter to the club on behalf of the NT (specifically supporters' groups) outlining our actions, reasons and certain demands

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE / OUR BOTTOM LINE:
A public statement of disgust and solidarity by the NT adressing the following issues / concerns:
1. Overzealous policing at matches – This includes:
– A call for police working inside the stadium to no-longer be armed with firearms or tasers;
– Better training and more appropriate attitude / behaviour and responses from security staff;
– That security staff and police are familiar with and honour the Charter;
– That police follow procedure when policing soccer matches, namely, not indiscriminately deploying capsicum spray against the crowd, especially when such action is not needed.
– That police employ a less confrontational / more restorative approach when moving in to evict / talk to non-violent fans.
2. Stadium bans:
– That any supporter who is banned be allowed to appeal the ban / have the ban properly administered by proper legal standards. This includes:
– The provision of appropriate legal documentation / paperwork;
– The right to review evidence that proves any alleged offence;
– The right to challenge the ban through the legal system (court / mediation).
– More accountability of those who are issuing the bans (who are they, how do they decide who is banned and who isn't)
This is to be backed by an overall NT pledge of solidarity with Horda, who fear that the entire group will be effectively banned. This of course would be most unjust, and serve as a harmful precentent for the NT as a whole.
3. MVFC – Supporter relations:
– We express our disgust at the way officials at MVFC have responded publically to the most recent alleged incident at the MVFC v Western Sydney match, namely:
– That they did nothing to correct media assertions that a policeman was "assaulted" / "bashed" in the North Terrace. No
such thing ever happened;
– That they did not publically protest / disapprove of the indiscriminate and reckless discharge of casicum spray in the NT;
– That the club showed an overall lack of fortitude with its response to a mainstream media campaign that was slandering
and defaming the name of its own supporters, with information based on sloppy journalism and outright, concocted lies.
– That the club then patronised the North Terrace by thanking it for being an integral part of its brand! Enough said.
Further pending a demand for a review and certain ammendments to the Charter.
4. MEDIA
– Shedding light on the fact that the media assault against soccer fans / NT / Horda was based on concocted stories that were fabricated by the Police and certain media personalities.
– A stand against public perceptions of what happens at soccer matches, and an acknowledgement of those who still come to the soccer, support the team and essentially fill our stadia, despite this negative, false publicity.
It is messy and complicated, but with the right organisation, right publicity and proper conduct on the day (no flares! no provocation!) we can pull it off and it has the potential to be an outstanding success that will concrete the NT into the next generation.
All were in agreement at the meeting that it has to be done. This has to be the most dignified thing the NT has ever pulled off.
What happpens afterwards?
Depending on the success of, and peoples' responses to the action, we come together following the match and discuss any further course of action.
No guarentees either way.
Guys if we could all spread this around via PMs today – to all who attended the meeting and other members of supporters' groups, we can get the word out by tomorrow and keep promoting it all week. By Sunday 90% of the NT should be 'in the know'.

We should also have the open letters / NT supporters' leaflets finalised no later than Wednesday / Thursday. We can send them around likewise, for final approval."
.

OmeletteDuFromage
03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Yep.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Birraz :wub:

Where would we be without you

nix territory

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:21 PM
2-0 down.

Not looking good. This could be a spanking and undo all the good work from last few weeks

Bec
03-03-2013, 05:21 PM
Ffs!!!

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:21 PM
I've seen triple murders caught on camera with better defence than this.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:22 PM
is hoole marking rojas at all?

ToddG NBUnited
03-03-2013, 05:22 PM
**** me it's going to be a long game

Bon
03-03-2013, 05:23 PM
Yeah thanks for the hookups guys..
Wishing you hadn't helped me now though..

OmeletteDuFromage
03-03-2013, 05:24 PM
So should I even upload this?

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:24 PM
far out. we're still going to get smashed.

cheflyf
03-03-2013, 05:27 PM
Well what do you expect with a youth team

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:28 PM
is hoole marking rojas at all?
Why would he mark Rojas? He is an attacking fullback whose sole responsibility appears to be to push up to the opposition half. This plays in to the MV plans of having your wingers play lazy buggers and don't defend the fullbacks... and our overall shitness in midfield means it's going to be a constant rape and pillage down the flanks with fullbacks out of position for 90 minutes unless something changes.

Bec
03-03-2013, 05:28 PM
thank god i have beers thinking i'll be drowning my sorrows later with this performance

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:29 PM
thank god i have beers thinking i'll be drowning my sorrows later with this performance

don't wait, start now.

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:30 PM
thank god i have beers thinking i'll be drowning my sorrows later with this performance
Whiskey whiskey whiskey. Supporting the Jerks cannot be good for my liver :gent:

Bec
03-03-2013, 05:31 PM
Oh i am believe me

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:31 PM
thank god i have beers thinking i'll be drowning my sorrows later with this performance

I've already Started

Bec
03-03-2013, 05:31 PM
I'd be onto that but haven't got any lol

Bon
03-03-2013, 05:32 PM
Whiskey whiskey whiskey. Supporting the Jerks cannot be good for my liver :gent:

I'm hungover as it is, but I think I could be making a move back to the booze to deal with this..

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:33 PM
so reading the last few posts makes me think we need a health warning.

something like: "watching the jets may lead to excessive drinking, which is bad for your health"

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:34 PM
Skip the middle bit. Nothing wrong with excessive drinking.

Buddha
03-03-2013, 05:35 PM
i'm kind of glad i havent wasted any interwebs streaming this shite

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:35 PM
Aids.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:36 PM
Sigh

ToddG NBUnited
03-03-2013, 05:36 PM
reegz still a sick ****, even though it's not been his best last 120mins of football, would still much rather him then the other options.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:36 PM
Don't know what I hate more - Harper or the score line

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:37 PM
might flick over to the cricket. who's with me?

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:37 PM
Well, if we can't win, please let Victory do something impressive like break records or something.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:38 PM
Well, if we can't win, please let Victory do something impressive like break records or something.

they already are. fastest team to score three goals against the youngest fielded team in the a-league.

Bec
03-03-2013, 05:39 PM
think i'm gonna need more booze

militiamon
03-03-2013, 05:39 PM
Missing Gallaway big time. 100% serious, challenge anyone to disagree.

Grimario
03-03-2013, 05:39 PM
they already are. fastest team to score three goals against the youngest fielded team in the a-league.

Nah, GCU fielded a younger team last season.

ToddG NBUnited
03-03-2013, 05:41 PM
think i'm gonna need more booze

i've cracked a bottle of Jack Daniels Single Barrel Select, not going to lie the chances of any being left by the end of this game are very very slim.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:41 PM
Missing Gallaway big time. 100% serious, challenge anyone to disagree.

Zenon missed more

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:41 PM
Nah, GCU fielded a younger team last season.

thought they were the same average age as today's squad.

also, did they concede a hattrick in under 30 minutes?

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:42 PM
think i'm gonna need more booze

I've just put more in the fridge

Bec
03-03-2013, 05:45 PM
Since we playin like shit my dad has decided to become a comedian...his latest

"Archie Thompson sucks,He's always going down"

westjet
03-03-2013, 05:47 PM
Zenon missed more

and heskeys presence in the box defensively

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:47 PM
Nil all


We like playing teams back into form. Mexicanos 4 - Jerks 0

beeen clearly in front on the pick-the-score comp.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:49 PM
What's happened to Craig Goodwin? Some blokes stolen his shirt

My2BobsWorth
03-03-2013, 05:51 PM
Why didn't we just park the ****in bus? 5-4-1

Buddha
03-03-2013, 05:51 PM
i think this is a good time to quit teetotalling

belchardo
03-03-2013, 05:52 PM
What's happened to Craig Goodwin? Some blokes stolen his shirt

was thinking that myself. just seems to be playing with no confidence at all. what has GVE done to him?

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 05:54 PM
was thinking that myself. just seems to be playing with no confidence at all. what has GVE done to him?

Early season Goodwin = Torres at Liverpool

Goodwin now = Torres at Chelski

380
03-03-2013, 05:56 PM
was thinking that myself. just seems to be playing with no confidence at all. what has GVE done to him?

Put the finishing touches too him as a player. GVE a frigg'n genius.

militiamon
03-03-2013, 05:58 PM
If we are going to start a list of things that are wrong with this game:

1. Too many attackers - balance of the team is wrong, too many attackers, it's like only 2 guys are there to defend
2. Line is way too high - GVE correctly identified that MV is one of the best counter-attacking teams in the league, so why are we playing in such a silly manner? Points 1 and 2 only compounded further when we give away possession so readily in midfield.
3. No leaders - I said it before the match, the fact that we don't have any strong individuals on the pitch hurt us after we went a goal down early on

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:00 PM
If we are going to start a list of things that are wrong with this game:

1. Too many attackers - balance of the team is wrong, too many attackers, it's like only 2 guys are there to defend
2. Line is way too high - GVE correctly identified that MV is one of the best counter-attacking teams in the league, so why are we playing in such a silly manner? Points 1 and 2 only compounded further when we give away possession so readily in midfield.
3. No leaders - I said it before the match, the fact that we don't have any strong individuals on the pitch hurt us after we went a goal down early on

4. No midfield - they're strolling through the middle with zero pressure

militiamon
03-03-2013, 06:02 PM
^ True. Goes with point 1, everyone pushes forward when we have the ball, and then are like "wtf" when we lose it 2 seconds later.


Edit: Also I like Hoole, but it must be said he has been awful in this game for us. Not helped by the tactics for sure, and the fact that he is an attacker, but I wouldn't want to see him at LB again any time soon.

pudy
03-03-2013, 06:03 PM
Worried about our for and against here..

Hoole is getting dominated by Rojas.. Regan playing horribly too. I say throw Bernardo on, might be our last chance to see him.

My2BobsWorth
03-03-2013, 06:14 PM
I think you'll find that this is Bridgeys fault:dry:

leftrightout
03-03-2013, 06:15 PM
For those who say cooper is a better option than Bridgey.... You surely have your head up your arse! He is honking!

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:15 PM
I think you'll find that this is Bridgeys fault:dry:

exactly. too ****ing old to play three games in a week.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:16 PM
I think you'll find that this is Bridgeys fault:dry:

It's the nix fault

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:17 PM
Nev arguing with GvE once he passes the ball away...

Blackmac79
03-03-2013, 06:18 PM
God you guys are a laugh. Defend Bridges at all costs.

His not even ****ing playing. If he was I doubt we would be doing much better. Issues have been at the back not up the front.

The only issue I have with bridges is that he seems to be a crowd favourite for no reason what so ever.

He is an above average player, but is too old to make a real difference for an extended period. And often he takes the wrong decision, or just plainly gives it away while trying to relive the glory of his youth.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:19 PM
oh for ****s sake.

reegz has had a horror week.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:19 PM
That's the last we'll see of Regan too

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:21 PM
Worried about our for and against here..

why? we were at -6 at the start of the match. goal difference isn't going to get us into the finals.

Bec
03-03-2013, 06:22 PM
FFS :banghead:

Schultz
03-03-2013, 06:22 PM
Good ol' Reagz

westjet
03-03-2013, 06:23 PM
ffs has this match been moved to Wellington or perth. usually we save this shit for those grounds.

leftrightout
03-03-2013, 06:26 PM
God you guys are a laugh. Defend Bridges at all costs.

His not even ****ing playing. If he was I doubt we would be doing much better. Issues have been at the back not up the front.

The only issue I have with bridges is that he seems to be a crowd favourite for no reason what so ever.

He is an above average player, but is too old to make a real difference for an extended period. And often he takes the wrong decision, or just plainly gives it away while trying to relive the glory of his youth.

I wasn't so much trying to defend Bridgey or say that he would have turned this game... I'm more commenting on the cooper love! You say bridges gets love for no reason. Cooper has done sweet FA and has shown today is so so far from a senior player. He has played stupid pass after stupid pass!

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:27 PM
can see why the american team are keen to sign jesic. he's had a huge impact on the game.

Bec
03-03-2013, 06:29 PM
that tells u how bad we have been when rojas can just walk into the back of the net

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:29 PM
nice footwork there from rojas. needed reegz to rugby tackle him

Schultz
03-03-2013, 06:29 PM
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

boz-monaut
03-03-2013, 06:30 PM
awesome, now it's 5

we deserve this for having a defence that would have been more effective if we'd just put some witches hats on the 16.5 metre box

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:31 PM
can see why the american team are keen to sign jesic. he's had a huge impact on the game.

Is Jes-suck playing? You make me laugh

q-money
03-03-2013, 06:32 PM
confirms everything we knew all along

gve did 9/11

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:33 PM
this just shows how much we hate the coasties, rolling over and helping the victory to catch them at the expense of our own reputation.

westjet
03-03-2013, 06:33 PM
I wasn't so much trying to defend Bridgey or say that he would have turned this game... I'm more commenting on the cooper love! You say bridges gets love for no reason. Cooper has done sweet FA and has shown today is so so far from a senior player. He has played stupid pass after stupid pass!

being 18 years old id hope he would be a long way from being a senior player - although with garys selection he will be too old for selection next year.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:33 PM
pick the final score.

7-1.

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:34 PM
Are we seeing the high pressure passing game Gary preaches about today?? victree executing it well

Bec
03-03-2013, 06:35 PM
pick the final score.

7-1.

7-0....dont think we have it in us to score 1 goal

Retro Jet
03-03-2013, 06:35 PM
pick the final score.

7-1.

Yeah right....zif we're gonna score......

westjet
03-03-2013, 06:35 PM
Rojas will score 2 goals, from 68 and 112 meters out respectively.

We'll probably do something silly.

you weren't far off

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:35 PM
pick the final score.

7-1.

Called 7-0 when we were 2-0 down to my mate

Mitchy
03-03-2013, 06:37 PM
Well at least the gypos are second now

q-money
03-03-2013, 06:38 PM
this ref is a legit ****hacker though ey

380
03-03-2013, 06:38 PM
God you guys are a laugh. Defend Bridges at all costs.

His not even ****ing playing. If he was I doubt we would be doing much better. Issues have been at the back not up the front.

The only issue I have with bridges is that he seems to be a crowd favourite for no reason what so ever.

He is an above average player, but is too old to make a real difference for an extended period. And often he takes the wrong decision, or just plainly gives it away while trying to relive the glory of his youth.


Thats the opposite to bagging at all costs right ?. I got ya.

Retro Jet
03-03-2013, 06:39 PM
Somewhow I think the camera man wasn't interested in Flores so much then....

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:39 PM
Flores has done ok for himself though...

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:39 PM
chapman's been sitting on the bench and we're only just bringing him on?

was GVE worried about reducing our attacking options or something????

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:40 PM
this ref is a legit ****hacker though ey

Gillet hates us q-man

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:41 PM
Reckon we should get 4 more reds so we forfeit and the result becomes 3-0 instead.

That's how it works right?

scozzygt
03-03-2013, 06:41 PM
Had enough,
Turned it off, making me soooooooo fuxxin angry!!
That poor fuxking excuse for a coach, setting out a team like that.
Non existent midfield, back to primary school defence.
They cant even defend a couple of corners/ freekicks like pros.
A fucxing embarrassment to our city.

Blackmac79
03-03-2013, 06:43 PM
Thats the opposite to bagging at all costs right ?. I got ya.

Never do that.

Only as deserved.

Deserving can include un-credited standing ovations.

militiamon
03-03-2013, 06:51 PM
The result is absolutely rubbish but...

The team that is beating us 5-0 lost 6-2 last week themselves.
This is the 3rd game we've played in a week.
We are still 5th on the table by 2 pts.

belchardo
03-03-2013, 06:51 PM
Had enough,
Turned it off, making me soooooooo fuxxin angry!!
That poor fuxking excuse for a coach, setting out a team like that.
Non existent midfield, back to primary school defence.
They cant even defend a couple of corners/ freekicks like pros.
A fucxing embarrassment to our city.

the sky is falling. i completely agree with one of scozzy's posts.

hawk
03-03-2013, 06:53 PM
a team is as good as their goal diff :blush:

Raw Boned Youngster
03-03-2013, 06:53 PM
I agree with the Scozz - tactically completely inept. egghead needs to know that his predictable tactics make exploitation easy. he needs to look at the way Traore and Galloway didn't.t get caught wide to open the channels. The fact that Ange got his fullbacks to sit deep to block Neville and Hoole and then exploit the space left by Neville a nd Hoole was embarrassingly simple. Egg is a complete shallow imposter. Ange obviously knows that and the Victory's game plan reflected it too

militiamon
03-03-2013, 06:54 PM
I agree with the Scozz - tactically completely inept. egghead needs to know that his predictable tactics make exploitation easy. he needs to look at the way Traore and Galloway didn't.t get caught wide to open the channels. The fact that Ange got his fullbacks to sit deep to block Neville and Hoole and then exploit the space left by Neville a nd Hoole was embarrassingly simple. Egg is a complete shallow imposter. Ange obviously knows that and the Victory's game plan reflected it too

Did you perform a similar analysis on Victory after their game last week?

halo se7en
03-03-2013, 06:54 PM
You've all been watching this in the wrong way. My a-league app says we've had 55% possession. As far as I'm concerned, thats game over and we can fly home as winners. We're coming third on the possession ladder so were pushing for a home final. Keep it up boys!!!! GVE = legend.

q-money
03-03-2013, 06:56 PM
:rof:

Jeterpool
03-03-2013, 06:57 PM
That was terrible. We lacked some experienced heads out there today

northern_swan
03-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Disgraceful.
Way to fly Ribero down for 10 mins on the pitch too. GVE out :banghead:

Raw Boned Youngster
03-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Why would I Militiaman? Just pointing out an obvious point, nothing too deep. just saying our coach is pretty simple and the other coaches know it.

Retro Jet
03-03-2013, 07:00 PM
Oh well...at least it wasn't the sCCuM that toweled us up 5 zip!

Hobbit...scores 2 again.
Neville...wot game plan????

380
03-03-2013, 07:14 PM
You've all been watching this in the wrong way. My a-league app says we've had 55% possession. As far as I'm concerned, thats game over and we can fly home as winners. We're coming third on the possession ladder so were pushing for a home final. Keep it up boys!!!! GVE = legend.

Post of the year and i am really GVE.

sammydog
03-03-2013, 07:15 PM
If we are going to start a list of things that are wrong with this game:

1. Too many attackers - balance of the team is wrong, too many attackers, it's like only 2 guys are there to defend
2. Line is way too high - GVE correctly identified that MV is one of the best counter-attacking teams in the league, so why are we playing in such a silly manner? Points 1 and 2 only compounded further when we give away possession so readily in midfield.
3. No leaders - I said it before the match, the fact that we don't have any strong individuals on the pitch hurt us after we went a goal down early on

nailed it with this post. Particularly points 2 and 3/

The Dunster
03-03-2013, 07:16 PM
According to GVE the players didn't follow his game plan.

Good to know that it wasn't Gary's fault.

pudy
03-03-2013, 07:25 PM
Anyone notice in the background when Ange was getting interviewed.. Deans going off his brain at Neville (appeared to be about his positioning through his arm movements) with Neville arguing back in quite an animated manner. Don't expect to see Neville again this season.

NewcastleForLife
03-03-2013, 07:26 PM
The result is absolutely rubbish but...

The team that is beating us 5-0 lost 6-2 last week themselves.
This is the 3rd game we've played in a week.
We are still 5th on the table by 2 pts.

If only we hadn't played an extra game compared to everyone else...

militiamon
03-03-2013, 07:32 PM
Anyone notice in the background when Ange was getting interviewed.. Deans going off his brain at Neville (appeared to be about his positioning through his arm movements) with Neville arguing back in quite an animated manner. Don't expect to see Neville again this season.

I did see that. I was watching the stadium feed so it showed more of what happened. Not sure if I agree with your interpretation. Without hearing what was being said, it could have easily been Neville and Deans having a whinge at the other players, at GVE's tactics (this is what I thought at first), who knows. Neville kept pointing towards where Hoole was in the first half though, and Deans was definitely indicating how high the line was with his arms.

seldom
03-03-2013, 07:36 PM
did we have a line ?...oh you talkin bout the 2 poor souls left isolated at the back

seldom
03-03-2013, 07:45 PM
feel sorry for the travelling fans that had to sit through that shite

stopper2
03-03-2013, 07:52 PM
You go into any match with no respect for the opposition and in particular when that opposition is one of the top sides....you are going to invariably pay for it.
Talk by GVE the other day that all the pressure is on Victory and that a win here will have us only 3 points from the top four, and that we've only lost 1 from the last 9, while Victory have lost 3 on the trot was just naive talk of the highest order. The vibe should have been that we fear a Victory side with Archie back in the side and a team with a point to prove after a dismal showing against the Mariners.
The bottom six sides might as well start planning for next season, the top 3 sides and to a lesser extent Adelaide might as well be 30 points ahead of the rest as the gulf in overall quality is massive in reality. The "master of spin"; GVE, was well and truly found out today.

My2BobsWorth
03-03-2013, 08:00 PM
Not enough old farts in the team, simple.

380
03-03-2013, 08:02 PM
feel sorry for the travelling fans that had to sit through that shite

If GVE was half fair dinkum he would spot each travelling fan a couple hundred as an apology for his average managing.

stopper2
03-03-2013, 08:08 PM
Not enough old farts in the team, simple.
This rubbish of a players age having some bearing on the performance is starting to really shite me. If you're good enough, you are old enough whether you are 19 or 39. The fact is now obvious that we let players of real quality in Topor and Brockie go last season.....GVE farked up in a big way with these two, pure and simple.

My2BobsWorth
03-03-2013, 08:16 PM
This rubbish of a players age having some bearing on the performance is starting to really shite me. If you're good enough, you are old enough whether you are 19 or 39. The fact is now obvious that we let players of real quality in Topor and Brockie go last season.....GVE farked up in a big way with these two, pure and simple.

Wrong again stopper

hawk
03-03-2013, 09:44 PM
Anyone notice in the background when Ange was getting interviewed.. Deans going off his brain at Neville (appeared to be about his positioning through his arm movements) with Neville arguing back in quite an animated manner. Don't expect to see Neville again this season.

hooraaaaayy

Thomas477
03-03-2013, 10:13 PM
The only thing I can think of is that GvE wanted to get the three points vs Nix, and was prepared to throw away this game, given MV were already ahead of us.

The suspension may do Regz some good, been honking the last two games. Neville can GTFO until he learns how to defend, pass, cross, tactics, shoot etc. Missed Gallaway, Heskey and Caravella. Goodwin's problem is that everyone else has figured his game out, not unlike Heskey during the middle of the season. Jesic hasn't done anything to change my mind and the sooner he leaves the better, would put him up with Mooy and Hoffman.

At least next week we should have Chapman coming in for Regz, Gallaway back (can't believe I said that), Caravella so Brillante can drop to RB, as well as Heskey and Bridges up front. We really need to sign a top CB and a brillant attacking midfield.

parksey
03-03-2013, 10:15 PM
this was possibly the worst game in jets history

GazFish35
03-03-2013, 10:20 PM
Lucky their third got called back.
No way was the foul on zad worthy of the goal being pulled back.

It could shave been double figures.

GVE has got to be nervous.
If was a horse trainer Tinks would have had him knackered by now.

sammydog
03-03-2013, 11:20 PM
I still don't see how they disallowed that goal. glad they did though, because it would have gotten ugly. Well more ugly than it turned out.

parksey
03-03-2013, 11:40 PM
well zadkovich was fouled before the ball even reached mullen to head it so yeah good call by the officials

Chadandkira12
04-03-2013, 07:22 AM
I hope the season doesn't come down to goal difference we haven't had a positive goal difference since we won the league

Superdylan
04-03-2013, 07:49 AM
feel sorry for the travelling fans that had to sit through that shite

Hmm it sucked but there was nothing you could really do. At least the victory fans were pretty chilled after the game :)

Bit dissapointed none of the players came to the away fans after the game.

cobra23
04-03-2013, 08:10 AM
Hmm it sucked but there was nothing you could really do. At least the victory fans were pretty chilled after the game :)

Bit dissapointed none of the players came to the away fans after the game.

Thats because deans and Neville were trying to get there ugly shit melons on fox .
they were standing in the background of the aftergame interview whinging about something.

lquiquer
04-03-2013, 10:37 AM
well zadkovich was fouled before the ball even reached mullen to head it so yeah good call by the officials

I think there was an obstruction on Regan in the box. One of their players took him out of the equation so he didn't have a chance to challenge for the header.

Jeterpool
04-03-2013, 11:33 AM
So the players are getting the blame from GvE for the loss yesterday. They derserve some of the blame but by no means do they deserve it all.

It's been discussed that we lacked leadership, a calming influence, older heads, etc on the field yesterday. This was clearly evident yesterday, particularly when we went behind early.

So who is to blame for that?? Gary's recruitment strategy has resulted in a highly imbalanced squad. Don't get me wrong, you need young players in your squad, but there needs to be a balance. Our balance is too far in the "young player" direction.

Because of this imbalance we have successfully destroyed the confidence of a number of our players. Craig Goodwin is now a shadow of the player he was earlier in the season - his ability to take on the player, hold them off, skin them and unleash blistering pace is all buit a distant memory. Scott Neville looks devoid of any confidence, as does James Brown. What will yesterday have done for Andrew Hoole, who will be having nightmares about "Rojas 11" because it's all he saw while chasing yesterday, and Mitch Cooper?

Birraz, luckily, hasn't had his confidence shattered, and Taggart has overcome his early season jitters to now string together 4 fine performances. The rarely-seen Jacob Pepper also looked ok in his cameo.

Is it a coincidence that our best performances in the last few weeks are when we have had a 26 & 29 year old midfielder, 34 year old CAM, 31 year old winger and 33 year old striker? I think not. Their calming influence, surrounded by a few younger players, I feel has brought a good balance of leadership and experience to the team to help it get through tough patches in the match.

We have a number of these players for the next year or two as well. Our recruitment strategy needs to reinstate the balance in the squad when, as most expect, Jesic and Bernardo leave the squad at the send of the season.

Therefore, with Gary blaming the players, the players he brought into the club, he can only blame himself because it's the mess he masterminded.

Imyourhero
04-03-2013, 11:51 AM
I blame GVE for the form dip for Goodwin, after having a couple of amazing performances in the first few rounds GVE 'rested him' so that the 'pressure' didn't get to him? Aka GVE pretty much told Goody, "I think you are soft and can't handle expectation". Absolute mind**** for a young fella when what young fellas need is the feel like they BELONG in a team and are GOOD enough, knocking them back after good performances would only further wreak havoc on mentality and confidence.

BodyNovo
04-03-2013, 11:55 AM
i missed the sky falling.

MFKS
04-03-2013, 11:58 AM
So the players are getting the blame from GvE for the loss yesterday. They derserve some of the blame but by no means do they deserve it all.

It's been discussed that we lacked leadership, a calming influence, older heads, etc on the field yesterday. This was clearly evident yesterday, particularly when we went behind early.

So who is to blame for that?? Gary's recruitment strategy has resulted in a highly imbalanced squad. Don't get me wrong, you need young players in your squad, but there needs to be a balance. Our balance is too far in the "young player" direction.

Because of this imbalance we have successfully destroyed the confidence of a number of our players. Craig Goodwin is now a shadow of the player he was earlier in the season - his ability to take on the player, hold them off, skin them and unleash blistering pace is all buit a distant memory. Scott Neville looks devoid of any confidence, as does James Brown. What will yesterday have done for Andrew Hoole, who will be having nightmares about "Rojas 11" because it's all he saw while chasing yesterday, and Mitch Cooper?

Birraz, luckily, hasn't had his confidence shattered, and Taggart has overcome his early season jitters to now string together 4 fine performances. The rarely-seen Jacob Pepper also looked ok in his cameo.

Is it a coincidence that our best performances in the last few weeks are when we have had a 26 & 29 year old midfielder, 34 year old CAM, 31 year old winger and 33 year old striker? I think not. Their calming influence, surrounded by a few younger players, I feel has brought a good balance of leadership and experience to the team to help it get through tough patches in the match.

We have a number of these players for the next year or two as well. Our recruitment strategy needs to reinstate the balance in the squad when, as most expect, Jesic and Bernardo leave the squad at the send of the season.

Therefore, with Gary blaming the players, the players he brought into the club, he can only blame himself because it's the mess he masterminded.

I would love to see GVE shoulder the blame in the presser but we all know he don't roll that way so why be dissappointed by the lack of responsibility taken by him??

I also disagree with the level of blame that should be apportioned to the players. Not one of the blokes selected yesterday isn't capable of playing at HAL level. It isn't the Managers fault that at least 7-9 of them put in performances that could only best be described as very bad. Zads would have been about a 2 from 10 effort yesterday Taylor about the same. Others were anonymous. Holding the coach resonsible for the players putting in a performance that looked like they had been on an all night bender at the Crown on Saturday night with the Travelling supporters and played like they actually had is wrong.

The players were a ****ing disgrace and let themselves down, Their teammates playing/not playing, The Coaching group, HSG, Thair families and most importantly the fans particularly the travelling support. The most disgraceful aspect to GVE here is that he didn't make the team find their own way back to Newy because some of them deserved to walk.

Yes we are a few senior players short in our squad but having Griffo/ Jobe depart as well as Zenon injured and the need to rest Heskey Bridges shows there are some mitigating circumstances. Our lack of expereince is an area that I feel would be addressed anyway in the close season by GVE anyway

MFKS
04-03-2013, 12:00 PM
I blame GVE for the form dip for Goodwin, after having a couple of amazing performances in the first few rounds GVE 'rested him' so that the 'pressure' didn't get to him? Aka GVE pretty much told Goody, "I think you are soft and can't handle expectation". Absolute mind**** for a young fella when what young fellas need is the feel like they BELONG in a team and are GOOD enough, knocking them back after good performances would only further wreak havoc on mentality and confidence.

He didn't rest him until Rd 7 well after I called for him to do it.

Thomas477
04-03-2013, 12:34 PM
I blame GVE for the form dip for Goodwin, after having a couple of amazing performances in the first few rounds GVE 'rested him' so that the 'pressure' didn't get to him? Aka GVE pretty much told Goody, "I think you are soft and can't handle expectation". Absolute mind**** for a young fella when what young fellas need is the feel like they BELONG in a team and are GOOD enough, knocking them back after good performances would only further wreak havoc on mentality and confidence.


He didn't rest him until Rd 7 well after I called for him to do it.

Right, so you're saying Goodwin has zero mental strength? FFS the bloke started the first few weeks and played well, then his performance dropped due to players figuring him out, and the pressure of a long campaign. It's very easy to run yourself into the ground each week, but do that for a couple of months in a row and you start to get jaded and unable to keep the same performance up.

Neville, hasn't been playing well but that happens, each game is a new game etc. As for Brown, its clear the injury is still affecting him, but of course it was GvE who injured him in the first place, so its his fault.

As for Biraz, its amazing how if you play well your confidence stays up. Funny that.

Jeterpool
04-03-2013, 01:24 PM
Right, so you're saying Goodwin has zero mental strength? FFS the bloke started the first few weeks and played well, then his performance dropped due to players figuring him out, and the pressure of a long campaign. It's very easy to run yourself into the ground each week, but do that for a couple of months in a row and you start to get jaded and unable to keep the same performance up.

Neville, hasn't been playing well but that happens, each game is a new game etc. As for Brown, its clear the injury is still affecting him, but of course it was GvE who injured him in the first place, so its his fault.

As for Biraz, its amazing how if you play well your confidence stays up. Funny that.

Thomas, I didn't say that GvE injured Brown, however I think it is fair to question his management of James following his return which has resulted in a player playing it appears without confidence. Was he returned too soon, he therefore struggles and plays poorly, Gary persists to see if he improves. Numerous people on the forum proposed an alternative by bringing him on with 25 to go when he would be afforded more room and he can run at a tiring defence.

Thomas477
04-03-2013, 01:29 PM
Thomas, I didn't say that GvE injured Brown, however I think it is fair to question his management of James following his return which has resulted in a player playing it appears without confidence. Was he returned too soon, he therefore struggles and plays poorly, Gary persists to see if he improves. Numerous people on the forum proposed an alternative by bringing him on with 25 to go when he would be afforded more room and he can run at a tiring defence.

Fair enough, and tbh I would agree with you that GvE threw him in the deep end. Somehow I don't think we'll see Brown back this season.

Imyourhero
04-03-2013, 01:29 PM
Right, so you're saying Goodwin has zero mental strength? FFS the bloke started the first few weeks and played well, then his performance dropped due to players figuring him out, and the pressure of a long campaign. It's very easy to run yourself into the ground each week, but do that for a couple of months in a row and you start to get jaded and unable to keep the same performance up.

Neville, hasn't been playing well but that happens, each game is a new game etc. As for Brown, its clear the injury is still affecting him, but of course it was GvE who injured him in the first place, so its his fault.

As for Biraz, its amazing how if you play well your confidence stays up. Funny that.



No i'm saying in terms of straining one's mental strength, it is much more likely to be strained for a young player when a coach shows no confidence in your ability to handle the senior team than it is for a player having fans applaud your performances and PUT confidence in you.

hawk
04-03-2013, 07:01 PM
Therefore, with Gary blaming the players, the players he brought into the club, he can only blame himself because it's the mess he masterminded.

yep. hows the depth gve?

halo se7en
04-03-2013, 07:16 PM
You could blame the players but how can we expect them to lift for a game in Melbourne when every indication from the coach was that we were fine to accept a loss? It starts at the top and GVEs attitude around the players sets the tone.

MFKS
04-03-2013, 07:19 PM
You could blame the players but how can we expect them to lift for a game in Melbourne when every indication from the coach was that we were fine to accept a loss? It starts at the top and GVEs attitude around the players sets the tone.

On one hand the resting of Heskey and Bridges can say don't care about the Victree game on the other hand it can also say he has faith in the players he put out there to do the job. Faith that those blokes who took to the field didn't repay
.

Two ways you can look at everything. The loss yesterday ain't an excuse to start digging the knives into the coach unlike what some people seem to think

leftrightout
04-03-2013, 08:01 PM
Thomas, I didn't say that GvE injured Brown, however I think it is fair to question his management of James following his return which has resulted in a player playing it appears without confidence. Was he returned too soon, he therefore struggles and plays poorly, Gary persists to see if he improves. Numerous people on the forum proposed an alternative by bringing him on with 25 to go when he would be afforded more room and he can run at a tiring defence.

Should not have been put straight into the team. Take it from someone who has had the same ankle surgery! It's one that seems so simple and easy yet screws you up for a good 12 months!
It took me over 18 months to get confidence and all my speed back! He should do it sooner with the professional treatment but it doesn't surprise me that he has struggled.
I'm confident he will be alot better next season!

Thomas477
04-03-2013, 08:14 PM
Should not have been put straight into the team. Take it from someone who has had the same ankle surgery! It's one that seems so simple and easy yet screws you up for a good 12 months!
It took me over 18 months to get confidence and all my speed back! He should do it sooner with the professional treatment but it doesn't surprise me that he has struggled.
I'm confident he will be alot better next season!

As much as I have slagged Brown this season, I hope you're right.

westjet
04-03-2013, 08:44 PM
On one hand the resting of Heskey and Bridges can say don't care about the Victree game on the other hand it can also say he has faith in the players he put out there to do the job. Faith that those blokes who took to the field didn't repay
.

Two ways you can look at everything. The loss yesterday ain't an excuse to start digging the knives into the coach unlike what some people seem to think

But there is a reason to start having a dig at him because of the way he deals with situations like this. Last week when victory got thumped I recall Ange saying something like we got it wrong from the top (himself) down. If GVE wants to keep simply saying that the players did this wrong and that wrong as fans we have every right to question his suitability for the job - he has had 18 months to get it right. Quoting from Remember the Titans but "Attitude reflects leadership".

MFKS
05-03-2013, 07:59 AM
But there is a reason to start having a dig at him because of the way he deals with situations like this. Last week when victory got thumped I recall Ange saying something like we got it wrong from the top (himself) down. If GVE wants to keep simply saying that the players did this wrong and that wrong as fans we have every right to question his suitability for the job - he has had 18 months to get it right. Quoting from Remember the Titans but "Attitude reflects leadership".

The bloke is castigated no matter which way he turns.

20 mins into the game on Sunday in my opinion after the goal was disallowed GVE should have hooked someone. We were ****ing pathetic and the 2 goals we had already conceeded hadn't been enough of a wake up call to the team to pull their socks up and wake up.

Chapman should have been sent on to replace Taylor Regan who was having a mare. GVE doesn't do this and Taylor stays on and costs us 2 more goals before getting sent off. If GVE hooks Taylor 20 mins into the game and we lose 3-0 or something like this the Foz would be abuzz with GVE's a **** for Jesse Pintoing Regan and subbing him off would be destroying his confidence etc

Bloke just can't win with some people no matter which way he goes.

Comparing the bloke to Ange is ridiculous. Ange is a much better coach. Like comparing Hutcho to Messi not even close to being relevant

BodyNovo
05-03-2013, 08:13 AM
The bloke is castigated no matter which way he turns.

20 mins into the game on Sunday in my opinion after the goal was disallowed GVE should have hooked someone. We were ****ing pathetic and the 2 goals we had already conceeded hadn't been enough of a wake up call to the team to pull their socks up and wake up.

Chapman should have been sent on to replace Taylor Regan who was having a mare. GVE doesn't do this and Taylor stays on and costs us 2 more goals before getting sent off. If GVE hooks Taylor 20 mins into the game and we lose 3-0 or something like this the Foz would be abuzz with GVE's a **** for Jesse Pintoing Regan and subbing him off would be destroying his confidence etc

Bloke just can't win with some people no matter which way he goes.

Comparing the bloke to Ange is ridiculous. Ange is a much better coach. Like comparing Hutcho to Messi not even close to being relevant

if he was going to hook someone he should have just accepted the 3-0 loss and taken everyone off the field.

i think the reason he didn't hook regan is the same reason miltia pointed out to, in that gary loves the right footed and left footed cb combination.

northern_swan
05-03-2013, 08:37 AM
The bloke is castigated no matter which way he turns.

20 mins into the game on Sunday in my opinion after the goal was disallowed GVE should have hooked someone. We were ****ing pathetic and the 2 goals we had already conceeded hadn't been enough of a wake up call to the team to pull their socks up and wake up.

Chapman should have been sent on to replace Taylor Regan who was having a mare. GVE doesn't do this and Taylor stays on and costs us 2 more goals before getting sent off. If GVE hooks Taylor 20 mins into the game and we lose 3-0 or something like this the Foz would be abuzz with GVE's a **** for Jesse Pintoing Regan and subbing him off would be destroying his confidence etc

Bloke just can't win with some people no matter which way he goes.

Comparing the bloke to Ange is ridiculous. Ange is a much better coach. Like comparing Hutcho to Messi not even close to being relevant

So instead GVE does nothing and makes a change 60 odd minutes in when the 5-0 raping is said and done. Tactical genius that :whistling:

If he had Pintoed Reegz and it stayed 3-0, the hurt wouldn't have been near as bad.

Point is GVE had to do something. Instead he looked like a deer in the headlights, and the fallout that has ensued is no ones fault but his own

plague
05-03-2013, 09:21 AM
Point is GVE had to do something. Instead he looked like a deer in the headlights, and the fallout that has ensued is no ones fault but his own

This.
That's why the bloke gets the whistle at training and his own special toilet.
He's in charge.
Do your ****ing job.

My2BobsWorth
05-03-2013, 04:24 PM
I tend to be on the Members bandwagon on this. I find it hard to believe that any coach would give instructions to push high in defence against one of the best countering teams. Trouble is they have been told to do it all year. If it was me I would have parked the bus, but what do I know

Thomas477
05-03-2013, 04:32 PM
if he was going to hook someone he should have just accepted the 3-0 loss and taken everyone off the field.

i think the reason he didn't hook regan is the same reason miltia pointed out to, in that gary loves the right footed and left footed cb combination.

Ahh, isn't Ritter left footed? Regz and Chapz are right. No reason not to hook Regan.

MFKS
05-03-2013, 04:33 PM
So instead GVE does nothing and makes a change 60 odd minutes in when the 5-0 raping is said and done. Tactical genius that :whistling:

If he had Pintoed Reegz and it stayed 3-0, the hurt wouldn't have been near as bad.

Point is GVE had to do something. Instead he looked like a deer in the headlights, and the fallout that has ensued is no ones fault but his own

I think Swan you are missing the point, The point is he does one thing and people are on his back. Does it the other way and blokes are on his back for something else anyway.GVE pinto's Taylor and we lose 3-0 and as I said the foz would be going off about GVE being a **** for Pintoing him the last day or so instead of the foz going off about picking young kids/not having enough experienced players benefits of resting etc and what other conspiracy theories I have missed

I agree with what you say changes should of occurred during the game and it is disappointing they didn't. Problem is changes or no changes and GVE would still be copping a roasting as he is at present it would just be a slightly different angle of attack

Grimario
05-03-2013, 04:37 PM
Wait... so you find it easier to believe that the players have been ignoring instructions for the majority of the 24 rounds we have played resulting us being caught out on the counter down both flanks on numerous occasions?

If you truly believe that then the next question is why has GVE not rectified it?

Thomas477
05-03-2013, 04:46 PM
Wait... so you find it easier to believe that the players have been ignoring instructions for the majority of the 24 rounds we have played resulting us being caught out on the counter down both flanks on numerous occasions?

If you truly believe that then the next question is why has GVE not rectified it?

Hang on, pretty sure GvE made the point for playing against Victory with a deeper defence line then we normally have. That's what I got from his comments anyway.

My2BobsWorth
05-03-2013, 04:54 PM
You know what kids are like, never ****in listen

plague
05-03-2013, 05:23 PM
Either way his tactics are shit or his application is shit.

Ergo, he's shit.

Shit shit shit.

Imyourhero
05-03-2013, 05:28 PM
In conclusion.
GVE is shit.

howardyou
05-03-2013, 10:30 PM
In any case. The sky is falling. Help.

I've never seen such an overreaction to a loss that was always going to happen.

GazFish35
05-03-2013, 10:42 PM
Leave Gary alone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

plague
05-03-2013, 10:54 PM
I've never seen such an overreaction to a loss that was always going to happen.

If you think that any of this is just about last Sunday then you ain't been paying attention homie.

howardyou
05-03-2013, 11:07 PM
If you think that any of this is just about last Sunday then you ain't been paying attention homie.

5th in the league with a bunch of kids isn't the worst record possible. I don't like he way GVE goes about things most of the time, however, they are his decisions to make and he will be judged on his results at the end of the season.

Would 5th be a failure?

plague
05-03-2013, 11:51 PM
5th in the league with a bunch of kids isn't the worst record possible. I don't like he way GVE goes about things most of the time, however, they are his decisions to make and he will be judged on his results at the end of the season.

Would 5th be a failure?

I don't like where we are, and I certainly don't like how we got here.

The Dunster
05-03-2013, 11:56 PM
Without Griffiths and Heskeys contribution we'd be at the bottom of the table.
Friday will be the big test and while I'd like to see us win I cannot see where the goals will be coming from.