2014 World Cup Qualifying

[joel31]

Schwarzer, Neill and Milligan were our best

I was unimpressed with Kruse despite a few good runs and Oar looked out of confidence in the first half

Honda and Kagawa really played us off the park

[pv4]

First time I have done this in years but well done to luca$h Neil.

Probably one of the main reasons (other than schwarz outstanding save in the first half) Japan relied on a penalty to score the only goal for them. Besides marshalling himself on the 18 yard box he defended superb and his distribution was slightly better than the long balls I am used to.

Og on the other hand i think is done.

Agree with militia on bresc blokes ability to open the game up is immense and passing game is so simple and smart at the same time.

Next game would have jedinak in for Milligan, both have the same ability in defence but jedinak will be able to offer something going forward as well which I didn't think Milligan did

Simplicity of the Mackay matter;
Don't play players out of position zullo in next game

Imo Japan with out Honda and kagagawa would be shit but I think everyone thinks that.

agree with basically all of this.

will add endo to the standout japanese players. particularly in the first half he was slicing & dicing us. if it wasn't for the work luca$h did, we would have conceded about 4 goals solely from endo's passing. and speaking of luca$h - man, best player out there last night. i am his biggest critic, and probably fumed more than anyone that he was included in the squad after his 3 games this year and general oldness. but he amazed me last night.

like i said in the no-mfkfc thread - bresc needs to be given a bit more freedom. he was relied on too heavily to defend last night, and particularly in the first half was made to look silly a bit. give him the ball when he's got a man close to him, give him a few runners darting away from him, and he's brililant. get him to do the defensive running of a 23 year old and he's past it. would love to see him in the hal. i really hope it's not ridiculous to think that hsg would at least enquire into him.

i usually love mckay, but he was so noticeably out of position and lost last night. it's simple, like rover said, just play a defender in that position. between mckay and og, we were a ticking time bomb to conceding. it was no surprise whatsoever that one of them two led to the goal. i wish lolger would have picked up on this in the first half and even put thwaite or someone out there, just to shut up shop.

now that lolger has seen that his instructions to oar to release the ball early in a cross-field switch wasn't working, i hope he gives him a lot more freedom. over in the anti-mfkfc thread we were all saying how lethal he looked when pushing past a man, and his goal was through sheer determination (and luck). let him loose.

all in all - don't forget that we deserved nothing from the game. if japan needed more than a draw, they would have felt robbed. we were diabolical except for brief moments, and the whole game was spent thinking it was only a matter of time before we conceded. whether we make it to the world cup or not, can't help but feel we'll perform even worse than we did in 2010 - and i will be highly embarassed. our goal shouldn't be JUST to qualify for the world cup, we should be aiming on jagging second place in the group. i don't think we have this mentality currently

[pv4]

do we still need to simply just win the next 2 or mathematically can we afford a draw/loss??

my understanding of it:

2nd Oman Played 7 GD -2 Pts 9
3rd Aust Played 6 GD 0 Pts 7
4th Jordan Played 6 GD -6 Pts 7

we play iraq and jordan. oman play jordan.

my understanding:
if oman beats jordan, we must win both (and regardless of scores will auto-qualify). if oman and jordan draw, we have to win at least one, do a bit of head maths with the goal differences, and it probably ties in with that winning game needing to be against jordan. if jordan beat oman, we need to beat jordan and work out our goal differences.

basically winning both will shit us in. beating jordan is the big one for us, and it's played before oman play jordan. potentially we can get through with a win and loss, but a lot has to work out for that to happen.

[leftrightout]

all in all - don't forget that we deserved nothing from the game. if japan needed more than a draw, they would have felt robbed. we were diabolical except for brief moments, and the whole game was spent thinking it was only a matter of time before we conceded.

I disagree, we had a game plan. we carried it out very well. Do you expect us to go to japan and play a similar game as them? we would get thrashed!
I didnt think we were diabolical, i thought we were very effective! Sat deep, forced them to shoot from distance alot. We scored a goal (yes it was lucky but we got it) and really shwarzer only really had to make 2 real saves!
Just because we defended alot doesnt mean we were diabolical or didnt deserve anything!

[joel31]

And why didn't Tom Rogic come in instead of Vidosic

[Onehunglow]

And why didn't Tom Rogic come in instead of Vidosic

And why didn't Holger use the 2 subs he had left on the bench in the 87th and 89th minute to take the momentum out of the inevitable backlash that was to come after we had scored. Why wouldn't use the 2 subs to stop the game and give our defence a 45 second rest (x 2) to regroup and have a breather. Not to mention put out to fresh players to chase and close down in the middle of the park and help out for the last 6-7 minutes. ****ing coaching 101 that is.... We got pretty much what we deserved in the end, but once we scored we should have brought it home.

[Jeterpool]

And why didn't Holger use the 2 subs he had left on the bench in the 87th and 89th minute to take the momentum out of the inevitable backlash that was to come after we had scored. Why wouldn't use the 2 subs to stop the game and give our defence a 45 second rest (x 2) to regroup and have a breather. Not to mention put out to fresh players to chase and close down in the middle of the park and help out for the last 6-7 minutes. ****ing coaching 101 that is.... We got pretty much what we deserved in the end, but once we scored we should have brought it home.

Precisely!

[380]

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[militiamon]

What I don't get about the whole McKay thing is that for the Asian Cup he was universally considered the best player of the tournament for us, playing in a bit of a roving midfield role similar to the one he'd played at Brisbane with Ange. So...why the fxxx are we playing one of our best players in a completely unsuitable role?

(fwiw I don't think he played badly last night, apart from the handball obvs)

[militiamon]

PS As much as the media like to use the old hyperbole with many of Australia's games these days, Japan - Australia matches have turned into cracking fixtures imo. Always tight, huge passion in the players and fans.

[seldom]

I disagree, we had a game plan. we carried it out very well. Do you expect us to go to japan and play a similar game as them? we would get thrashed!
I didnt think we were diabolical, i thought we were very effective! Sat deep, forced them to shoot from distance alot. We scored a goal (yes it was lucky but we got it) and really shwarzer only really had to make 2 real saves!
Just because we defended alot doesnt mean we were diabolical or didnt deserve anything!

I agree...thought we had a plan and we carried it out pretty well.Yeah we sat deeper against Japan but that was needed imo.At least we didnt sit deep and then just pump long balls.And a point is nothing to be sneezed at.

[q-money]

endo is a farken beautiful player

[slobsy]

love endo

[furns]

my understanding of it:

2nd Oman Played 7 GD -2 Pts 9
3rd Aust Played 6 GD 0 Pts 7
4th Jordan Played 6 GD -6 Pts 7

we play iraq and jordan. oman play jordan.

my understanding:
if oman beats jordan, we must win both (and regardless of scores will auto-qualify). if oman and jordan draw, we have to win at least one, do a bit of head maths with the goal differences, and it probably ties in with that winning game needing to be against jordan. if jordan beat oman, we need to beat jordan and work out our goal differences.

basically winning both will shit us in. beating jordan is the big one for us, and it's played before oman play jordan. potentially we can get through with a win and loss, but a lot has to work out for that to happen.According to Fox last night, its not GD thats taken into account its head-to-head

[belchardo]

wikipedia



Australia will:

secure at least a 5th Round play-off spot if they defeat Jordan AND Iraq do not defeat Japan
be unable to qualify directly if they lose to Jordan.


Iraq will be eliminated if:

they lose to Japan and Australia do not draw with Jordan, OR
they draw with Japan AND Australia defeat Jordan.



no idea if it's correct or not.

[plague]

Yo;
Am heading to the game next tuesday in Melbourne.
Anyone know if there are any pubs in or near Etihad that are Australian fans drinking spots?
Am talking pre-match.
Post match is sorted.

Any info greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

[furns]

check out the socceroos supporters forum
http://www.terraceaustralis.com.au

[belchardo]

and the mind games begin...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-07/jordan-to-notify-fifa-after-football-coach-detained-at-melbourn/4739302


Jordan to notify FIFA after football coach detained at Melbourne airport

The Jordanian Football Association (JFA) says it is outraged that its national coach was detained by Customs officials at Melbourne's Tullamarine Airport.

Adnan Hamad was stopped at Customs yesterday after flying in with the team from New Zealand.

He was detained for several hours despite having a valid Australian visiting visa.

The JFA says other members of their delegation were also detained inside the airport despite having valid documentation.

The Jordanian embassy intervened in the process and Hamad was eventually given permission to proceed to the team's hotel.

The team is said to be so outraged they will contact the sport's governing body, FIFA, over the incident.

The Jordanians say Football Federation Australia (FFA) did not send a representative to meet them at the airport, according to protocol.

But the FFA says it had two representatives at the airport and it was an unfortunate incident involving Customs.

In a statement the JFA thanked the Jordanian embassy for helping the coach.

The FFA says it hopes the incident does not overshadow the crucial World Cup qualifier game between Australia and Jordan in Melbourne on Tuesday.


kudos to Customs. :lulz:

[Jetmaster]

Good to us see us finally playing these mind games - we are growing up in the football world.

If we can't win 3 out of our 8 games we don't deserve to qualify, therefore we must win both.

TBH - I don't think we deserve a spot and although I pray I am wrong, I very much doubt we will get maximum points over the two games.

In the media, the sky will then fall......

[GazFish35]

They should have had the flight re-routed to Avalon.

[Grimario]

wikipedia



Australia will:

secure at least a 5th Round play-off spot if they defeat Jordan AND Iraq do not defeat Japan
be unable to qualify directly if they lose to Jordan.


Iraq will be eliminated if:

they lose to Japan and Australia do not draw with Jordan, OR
they draw with Japan AND Australia defeat Jordan.



no idea if it's correct or not.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d7c1558d42460a0e75019fca4cea5f4f/tumblr_mnz1h25tW71roxkr5o1_1280.png

[belchardo]

have the TV ratings figures come out for the game on SBS and Fox? would make an interesting comparison.

[MFKS]

Believe the SBS ratings were around 500k

Fox Sports 291k
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2013/06/tuesday-4-june-2013.html
Interestingly enough SOO despite its wall to wall coverage only got 2.4 million

[Imyourhero]

Holger should play same lineup for tomorrow as japan game. Thoughts?

[belchardo]

football day!

2-1 win in a nervous, scrappy game.

[plague]

Raining and cold here in Melbourne. Going to be a nervous long wait til kickoff.

[russjaybee]

Long live the delayed thread, we doing that again?

[Jeterpool]

Big game tonight. I'm sure the boys are up for it!

3-1 Socceroos

[BodyNovo]

would love to see rogic and bresc start together tonight.

won't happen though

socceroo's 1-0 cahill

[joel31]

Socceroos 2-0 Kruse and Cahill to score

[Retro Jet]

So nervous I can hardly p!ss straight!
Reckon we're up for it tonight.

Just heard on ABC radio that it's a full house so I hope they really get behind them.

[joel31]

Are we doing a delayed thread for this game as well?

[Grimario]

Down in Sydney for work tomorrow, getting put up in a hotel tonight... convenient for watching Fox. Whoo.

[q-money]

easy on the casual racism there muscles

[Wilso8948]

I'm guessing the stretcher will be called for on at least 9 occasions

[pv4]

Long live the delayed thread, we doing that again?

am i right in saying fox kickoff at 7 and sbs kickoff at 8?

i'll be down for the delayed thread again, although chances are i'll be missing the first half.

[joel31]

am i right in saying fox kickoff at 7 and sbs kickoff at 8?

i'll be down for the delayed thread again, although chances are i'll be missing the first half.
I believe that will be the case

[belchardo]

you are. and thank god you mentioned it, cause i thought it was starting at 7:30.

[Jeterpool]

I'll enjoy watching the symetry between the two threads again. Similar reactions throughout the match last week.

[boz-monaut]

yep will be doing the delayed telecast thread again for those wanting to watch on SBS

mind you I've been up since 3am so I'll be delayed in a difference sence

[My2BobsWorth]

Favourite score on TAB is Australia 2-0, some juicy odds on Jordan

[MFKS]

Favourite score on TAB is Australia 2-0, some juicy odds on Jordan

The reason they are at juicy odds is because they have little chance of winning. This team has been good at home and abysmal on the road. Even when we played them and they rolled us it was more our ineptness than their quality that seen them build up a 2-0 lead. FFS even Archie scored against them last time out. A fired up Socceroos on home soil should comfortably put them to the sword

If Socceroos don't win by 3-4 Holger should quit if he ain't lynched first

[militiamon]

What about the Oman match MFKS?

I do agree with you though, there's a lot more focus on this match, so I think it will be fairly comfortable for us in the end.

[My2BobsWorth]

Aussies never do it the easy way, It'll be penalty shootout in the playoffs

[seldom]

loose

[Jeterpool]

Sniper??

[Jeterpool]

Bresc!!!!!!! Goallllllll!!!!!

Holman's blushes saved

[Jeterpool]

Credit Kruse too

[belchardo]

see holman, that is how you score a six yard tap in.

bonus shot of Mel in the background too. it's been too long without sighting her. :wub:

[GazFish35]

Is this on real radio anywhere, about to get in the car..... Not happy.

[Jeterpool]

This game has a red card written all over it. Such a high tempo and hard challenges.

[Jeterpool]

Is this on real radio anywhere, about to get in the car..... Not happy.

I doubt it. Sorry Gaz not heard of any

[Jeterpool]

The ref is calling both teams to get up which is pleasing

[belchardo]

Abc?

[belchardo]

just me or does anybody else think the ball is playing like shit on this pitch? feet and ball seem to be getting stuck every now and then.

few slips as well.

[Jeterpool]

just me or does anybody else think the ball is playing like shit on this pitch? feet and ball seem to be getting stuck every now and then.

few slips as well.

Agree. Think it's been raining heavily there today.

Plus an AFL game 48 hours before wont help

[GazFish35]

Is there any significance for black corner flags?

[belchardo]

mourning the death of australian football?

linesman also just slipped over.

and does ognenovski have a penis tattoo on the inside of his upper arm?

EDIT: no he doesn't, but you can understand why i thought he did...

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Sasa+Ognenovski+Australia+v+Japan+FIFA+World+40XyA Kk4Moox.jpg

[GazFish35]

mourning the death of australian football?

linesman also just slipped over.

and does ognenovski have a penis tattoo on the inside of his upper arm?

He's a unit.
I'm sure he has a penis somewhere on his body

[Jeterpool]

Bresc. Rolling back the years

[Jeterpool]

Jordanians having a whinge about everything today it seems. Innocuous or not

[Jeterpool]

Oar is ordinary again this week. Not a totally reliable outlet as compared to kruse

[belchardo]

pretty dominating half by australia.

need to be better in the second though.

[Jeterpool]

pretty dominating half by australia.

need to be better in the second though.

Agree. Threat only down our right side. Left has been ordinary again. Oar seems flat footed.

[belchardo]

feel we need another two to be sure of this.

did they just crank up the crowd mike???

[Jeterpool]

feel we need another two to be sure of this.

did they just crank up the crowd mike???

Yep. Not convinced one is enough.

Vidosic needs to come on for Oar

[belchardo]

is there anything more predictable than wilkshire blasting a free kick into the wall?

[belchardo]

Yep. Not convinced one is enough.

Vidosic needs to come on for Oar

agree the changes need to be made. before we lose the momentum and let jordan back into the game.

[Bec]

woooooooo!!!!

[belchardo]

**** me dead. thompson and cahill. are they our greatest combo ever?

EDIT: sold the rest of the team short there. great effort by the team there. 5 passes?

[Jeterpool]

Well that was a good change

[snake]

kruse (y)

[belchardo]

sasa and the jordanian forward arguing over who has the best hair...

[Jeterpool]

Sasa giving #9 a mouthful. That made him get up quick smart

[belchardo]

would like to see rogic on for the last 15 or 20 minutes. especially if we have another goal by then.

[Jeterpool]

Kruse is on fire tonight. Pace cannot be underestimated

[belchardo]

sasa still arguing over hair styles

[Jeterpool]

sasa still arguing over hair styles

Sasa to drop the keeper Gallen style

[belchardo]

feel like we've gone a little arsenal at times tonight. seems like we've been hell bent on walking the bloody thing in a few times tonight.

[Jeterpool]

Yep. Needs Rogic or Vidodic

Thought I saw Neill saying to sub on a defender and go 5 at the back??

[belchardo]

Yep. Needs Rogic or Vidodic

Thought I saw Neill saying to sub on a defender and go 5 at the back??

70 minutes in, no club. yep, he'd be tired.

oh yeah! nice reward for kruse there.

[Jeterpool]

Nice. MoM. Deserved a goal

[Grimario]

Remember when we almost signed him?

[belchardo]

brendan asks, holger finally delivers.

Rogic looks like he's coming on. hope he's got the freedom to do as he wants. hope he rips them to shreds. bresciano ain't gonna last forever.

[Jeterpool]

Here comes Rogic.

[belchardo]

crucial 10 minutes for holman here i reckon. if rogic rips them apart, i'm not sure we'll see holman again. he's really gone backwards this year.

wilkshire has also gone backwards, not sure who we have pressing in his position, but he's really not giving us as much as he used to.

kruse is proof that absence makes the heart grow fonder. i no longer automatically want to punch him in the face when i see him.

[Jeterpool]

Yes!!!!!!!!!

[belchardo]

bloody hell, how'd the fat man get that high?

[Jeterpool]

crucial 10 minutes for holman here i reckon. if rogic rips them apart, i'm not sure we'll see holman again. he's really gone backwards this year.

wilkshire has also gone backwards, not sure who we have pressing in his position, but he's really not giving us as much as he used to.

kruse is proof that absence makes the heart grow fonder. i no longer automatically want to punch him in the face when i see him.

Can't argue with much of that

[Jeterpool]

Jordan to walk off and forfeit. Giving us again a 3-0 win

[belchardo]

**** me, lucky to stay on the field there.

[Grimario]

I think Wilkshire is just getting old. As for who can play there.. McGowan or Williams perhaps?

[belchardo]

the jordanian no. 19 is a complete tosser.

[belchardo]

I think Wilkshire is just getting old. As for who can play there.. McGowan or Williams perhaps?

agree. not sure if the russian league is all that crash hot either.

speaking of senior moments, nice one there from schwarzer.

[Jeterpool]

Thompson has to start next week I think. Different level to Oar at the moment

[belchardo]

what a turn from rogic (and how much easier is it to compliment rogic now he isn't a dirty gypo scumbag?).

[Jeterpool]

So much easier. Halfway there. Big game next week.

[belchardo]

christ they are quick on wikipedia.

think as long as we draw and oman win by less than 6 we are through.

obviously, we win, we're through. so let's win!

[BodyNovo]

Now that is a national team I can follow

****ing finally.

About time we smacked one of these minnows.

Kruse outstanding.

[belchardo]

mel and marco. quite a contrast in hair lengths...

sorry, mel :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

[Premy]

christ they are quick on wikipedia.

think as long as we draw and oman win by less than 6 we are through.

obviously, we win, we're through. so let's win!
We're on 10 Oman are on 9 if we draw and they win were out.
Jordan are on 7 with a goal difference of -10 ours is +4 so if Jordan win we could lose and go threw.
Oman goal difference is -2 so Oman and Jordan draw we lose by less than 6 we go threw.
We win we go through.

2nd pl 7 gd +4 pt 10 Australia
3rd pl 7 gd -2 pt 9 Oman
4th pl 7 gd -10 pt 7 Jordan
5th pl 6 gd -2 pt 5 Iraq

[Premy]

If Japan beat Iraq tomorrow morning Iraq are out

[MFKS]

If Japan beat Iraq tomorrow morning Iraq are out

If Iraq and Japan draw Iraq are STILL out.

A draw tonight will put them on 6 points and a win V Socceroos will put them on 9 max
Austraila would finish on 10points with a loss and be ahead of them point blank Japan are long gone so the best they could hope for would be 3rd.


With Oman playing Jordan

An Omani win sees them on 12 points
A Jordan win sees them on 10 points
A draw would see Oman on 10 Jordan on 8

This would be still more than Iraqs max 9.

Iraq need to beat the Japanese tonight or they are GONE

[Retro Jet]

If Japan beat Iraq tomorrow morning Iraq are out

Which makes me think straight away, what sort of team will Iraq send for a dead rubber if that's the case?

Was working tonight and elected to watch from the 60th minute live and seeing Luca$h getting his first Intn'l goal was pricless...so was the
inane bitchin' from their defender. Wtf was he whining about? Couldn't believe he was out jumped by Neill for the ball?
Go and neck yer self.

[MFKS]

The reason they are at juicy odds is because they have little chance of winning. This team has been good at home and abysmal on the road. Even when we played them and they rolled us it was more our ineptness than their quality that seen them build up a 2-0 lead. FFS even Archie scored against them last time out. A fired up Socceroos on home soil should comfortably put them to the sword

If Socceroos don't win by 3-4 Holger should quit if he ain't lynched first

It is always good to be proved right:yay:

[MFKS]

On another note the Iraq game next Tuesday. Get your arses down there. Tickets on sale for $40 and include free City Rail transport to and from Newy.

Sack off work early which leaves **** all excuses not to be there when the nation plays to qualify for a World Cup place.

[Premy]

Which makes me think straight away, what sort of team will Iraq send for a dead rubber if that's the case?

Was working tonight and elected to watch from the 60th minute live and seeing Luca$h getting his first Intn'l goal was pricless...so was the
inane bitchin' from their defender. Wtf was he whining about? Couldn't believe he was out jumped by Neill for the ball?
Go and neck yer self.
Japan also have the confed cup next week so will probably rest their player agianst Iraq

[parksey]

funnily enough i was hating on kruse early on, but he really turned it on tonight. pretty to watch. i hope rogic gets a bit more game time next week, he looks class.

[militiamon]

^ Most impressive thing about Rogic was his confidence.

That is also the key thing with Kruse I feel. You can see the potential of him in the NT, but so far I think he's played very nervous and safe. Tonight I think he started in the same way, but as he got more chances you could see his confidence grow, culminating in his nutmeg goal.

Similar situation with Oar, Oar and Kruse will both be real forces once they become comfortable at this level.

[Retro Jet]

Iraq v Japan
0 all HT
Grand Hamad Stadium, Doha

Iraq are having a go. Very open game going by the HT highlights.
A few pen shouts, fluffed chances from both teams.

They ain't gonna lie down next week regardless of the score here

[Premy]

Japan won 1-0 Iraq have nothing but pride to play for on Tuesday

[GazFish35]

was at Strathfield station last night during the game, got chatting to the guy in the ticket window, he and his mananger said they had recieved notice to plan for 70,000 to be at the game.

[Superdylan]

was at Strathfield station last night during the game, got chatting to the guy in the ticket window, he and his mananger said they had recieved notice to plan for 70,000 to be at the game.

Wouldn't surprise me if its near a sellout. Tickets were selling fast last night after the game, got mine for the terrace australis area. Really hope we have a strong Newy contingent there.

[au revoir]

got mine for the terrace australis area.

was good while it lasted. shut it down.

[MFKS]

That active support last night was a joke. Far too many posers and Fanatics in there

[Jeterpool]

That active support last night was a joke. Far too many posers and Fanatics in there

Give it time Member...it was their first game!

[Superdylan]

That is correct, however it shouldn't take long for people to learn new chants rather then repeating the same stuff. Australia whoah oh oh oh etc

Need a 5 minute Dale Cavese going next week :)

[MFKS]

Give it time Member...it was their first game!


As I said too many fanatics and other assorted posers in there. No different to the Green and Gold Army or whatever they were last called.

Apparently the poor ****s were not singing at 1 stage last night coz they were to busy arguing amongst themselves as to what to sing. FMD


You can dress a turd up but it is still a turd. Until they get rid of all the try hards in there then they will go nowhere and die a slow painful death

[joel31]

That active support last night was a joke. Far too many posers and Fanatics in there
Sounds familiar

[toad]

even though qualifying through asia is better in every respect for the socceroos, these games lack the romance of the once-every-4-years, all-or-nothing home and away ties against a team that we are not expected to beat.

i'm not saying i want to go back to the old system, just saying that we will never play another game that feels as big as 2005 against uruguay or 1997 against iran unless we make a world cup semi-final.

[joel31]

even though qualifying through asia is better in every respect for the socceroos, these games lack the romance of the once-every-4-years, all-or-nothing home and away ties against a team that we are not expected to beat.

i'm not saying i want to go back to the old system, just saying that we will never play another game that feels as big as 2005 against uruguay or 1997 against iran unless we make a world cup semi-final.
If we come 3rd in the group and beat 3rd in the other group then we'll get that

[GazFish35]

As I said too many fanatics and other assorted posers in there. No different to the Green and Gold Army or whatever they were last called.

Apparently the poor ****s were not singing at 1 stage last night coz they were to busy arguing amongst themselves as to what to sing. FMD


You can dress a turd up but it is still a turd. Until they get rid of all the try hards in there then they will go nowhere and die a slow painful death

http://www.terraceaustralis.com.au/

Log on and help out then.

[belchardo]

http://www.terraceaustralis.com.au/

Log on and help out then.

don't be stupid. he'd rather sit on here and whinge.

[Retro Jet]

http://www.terraceaustralis.com.au/

Log on and help out then.

Bought my tix in Aisle 119 the Monday b4 the Japan game.
I haven't been in active support since the Uzbek game in Sydney (2009).
Looking forward to losing my voice :grin:


I watched part of the game live from my neighbours last night.
They got all excited and I logged on and bought them tickets in Bay 611 Row 9.
Pretty good seats for a random internet purchase.

Hoping for a near sell-out at least. Anything above 70k + is a bonus.
Will all the new WSW supporters be getting onto this?

[parksey]

they should just let the active groups of club teams from the city the game is being played in run the support on the night. probably not a popular idea but having the cove, bwb etc. just do their normal thing with the words changed to straya or socceroos or whatever would be pretty sweet.

[furns]

That is correct, however it shouldn't take long for people to learn new chants rather then repeating the same stuff. Australia whoah oh oh oh etc

Need a 5 minute Dale Cavese going next week :)there will be no a-league chants, creates too much animosity between rivals

[Jeterpool]

there will be no a-league chants, creates too much animosity between rivals

How are things going with the relationships between the A-League club supporters in Terrace Australis, Furns? I'm interested to know if this is occuring despite it being made clear that rivalries were to be left at the door.

[furns]

they should just let the active groups of club teams from the city the game is being played in run the support on the night. probably not a popular idea but having the cove, bwb etc. just do their normal thing with the words changed to straya or socceroos or whatever would be pretty sweet.if you do that, then you alienate other a-league groups. If Sydney FC are running the active area, then MV and WSW wont stand with them. It has to be one in all in. Capo isnt any of the current HAL capos, and no tweaking of HAL chants.

[furns]

How are things going with the relationships between the A-League club supporters in Terrace Australis, Furns? I'm interested to know if this is occuring despite it being made clear that rivalries were to be left at the door.The people who have put their hands up to get the group going are leaving their club loyalties at the door. The tifo day last weekend was a mix of SFC and WSW people, plus myself. The only issues are on forums from casual crew tossers who arent Aussie supporters anyway.
Choose club over country thats your call, but stop bitching about those who want to get involved and make something better ffs

[militiamon]

Respect to the people trying to get something started.

Observations last night were:
1. All the people in active support looked nothing like the people we see in the BWB or Yarraside.
2. A lot of the chants ARE similar to those done by certain clubs e.g the Sydney FC Crocodile Rock one. I know it's been around for the NT for a while now, but it still felt weird hearing that sung by a Melbourne crowd.

Just my observations anyway, not trying to criticise anyone's efforts but there are obvious issues with NT support that still need to be worked through. It'll be interesting to see what it's like in Sydney this week.

[Jeterpool]

The people who have put their hands up to get the group going are leaving their club loyalties at the door. The tifo day last weekend was a mix of SFC and WSW people, plus myself. The only issues are on forums from casual crew tossers who arent Aussie supporters anyway.
Choose club over country thats your call, but stop bitching about those who want to get involved and make something better ffs

Good luck with it all. If people want to make it work, it will. Good first up effort last night and a something that I'm sure will improve. I agree with what they are doing and the maturity shown by people leaving loyalties to one side can only help the game grow IMO

[parksey]

if you do that, then you alienate other a-league groups. If Sydney FC are running the active area, then MV and WSW wont stand with them. It has to be one in all in. Capo isnt any of the current HAL capos, and no tweaking of HAL chants.

well people already mingle for the national team games now so i doubt it's as big a problem as you would think. don't see why a few bwb lads couldn't suck it up for one night if it means creating a decent atmosphere for the national team.

[plague]

just my opinion but.
the noise in the stadium last night was awesome. the active support wasnt all that loud and I dont think much of the average joe fans were joining in with them.
the noise came from the fact that the match meant something and the home team played some good, fast football that was exciting to watch.
the "nippon/green and gold" chant was either a bit lame (if they were knocking it off) or quite funny (if it was a piss take).
also the active bay is quite a bit back from the field at Etihad so maybe it didnt help.
good on them and hope they get heaps more people wanting to join in next time.

[militiamon]

No.1 Australian national team chant:

mmmmmmbbbbbbbbbbbooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo


Goes off everytime. Let's face it, Aussie crowds love nothing more than a good booing.

[hawk]

That fkn sh1t NIPPON chant is puss. The Japs do it well and nice for them but fk it right out of oz ffs.

[Premy]

http://strathfieldhotel.com.au/promotionalOffer.php

2:54pm Train from Cardiff (free with ticket for the game) arrive at Strathfield 5:05.

Happy hour drinks at above pub see you there.

[MFKS]

http://strathfieldhotel.com.au/promotionalOffer.php

2:54pm Train from Cardiff (free with ticket for the game) arrive at Strathfield 5:05.

Happy hour drinks at above pub see you there.

The Happy hour will be nearly over by the time you get there. Starts at 4:30pm

If you get the 1:48pm from Cardiff you get into Strathfield at 4:03pm. Enough time to stroll over to the pub and get a beer or two under your belt to make yourself lubricated enough to make the most of the Happy Hour:pissup::sup:

Better make sure we are all on the 11:28pm train out of Strathfield. Otherwise waiting at Strathfield to 3:59am for the next train to Newy. Either that or you can get a train to Wyong/Gosford at 2am and try hitchhiking home :yeahright:

[boz-monaut]

I'll be heading straight to the godawful bar at the ground, then pretty much straight back on the train home afterwards

unless of course we win and I feel like continuining drinking and somehow forget that I have a two hour train trip and work at 8 the next morning

this will not end well either way

[Premy]

The Happy hour will be nearly over by the time you get there. Starts at 4:30pm

If you get the 1:48pm from Cardiff you get into Strathfield at 4:03pm. Enough time to stroll over to the pub and get a beer or two under your belt to make yourself lubricated enough to make the most of the Happy Hour:pissup::sup:

Better make sure we are all on the 11:28pm train out of Strathfield. Otherwise waiting at Strathfield to 3:59am for the next train to Newy. Either that or you can get a train to Wyong/Gosford at 2am and try hitchhiking home :yeahright:

They have a tight ass Tuesday happy hour goes longer I pressume ill call them tomorrow to confirm.

[Grimario]

Younis Mahmoud (striker) and Nashat Akram (midfielder) have apparently announced their retirement and will NOT be travelling to play next week. Reports have players and IFA at war with each other, lots of unrest in camp.

[Wilso8948]

Younis Mahmoud (striker) and Nashat Akram (midfielder) have apparently announced their retirement and will NOT be travelling to play next week. Reports have players and IFA at war with each other, lots of unrest in camp.

Was one of them the striker that was sent off against Japan? Or is that another that will be absent

[MFKS]

Was one of them the striker that was sent off against Japan? Or is that another that will be absent

Mahmoud played against Japan and is their captain and best player by a mile.

Would be a huge relief to someone as slow as Lucas Neill if he doesn't play.

[BodyNovo]

akram was the fella man city wanted before he couldn't get a permit I believe as well, big win for us if true.

[Wilso8948]

But a striker was sent off against Japan too? Or is it the same bloke? Hopefully it means they are short both their strikers. Good shit

[Grimario]

But a striker was sent off against Japan too? Or is it the same bloke? Hopefully it means they are short both their strikers. Good shit

That was Alaa Abdul-Zahra. One of their reserve keepers isn't coming either.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1156085/Iraq-stars-pull-out-of-Socceroos-clash

Iraq stars pull out of Socceroos clash


Iraq's preparation for the 2014 FIFA World Cup qualifier against Australia at ANZ Stadium on Tuesday has been rocked by the withdrawal of two of its iconic star players.

Captain Younis Mahmoud and midfield orchestrator Nashat Akram informed the Iraq Football Association (IFA) of their decision not to travel with the squad, which arrived in Sydney on Thursday evening, after the 1-0 qualifying loss to Japan in Doha and did not travel with the the squad.

The Japan result eliminated the 2007 Asian Cup winner from World Cup contention. The World Game has learned is understood the team is rife with internal divisions on the eve of a match the Socceroos must win to secure one of four automatic places in Brazil.

The national team has gone through more than six months of upheaval since its Brazilian coach Zico resigned from his post in November 2012 in the fallout from an acrimonious pay dispute with the IFA.

Youth coach Hakeem Shaker was appointed on an interim basis before ex-China boss Vladimir Petrovic took control in February. It is believed that many within the side have serious reservations about the direction the team is being taken.

The side has played two international matches in the past six months – one against a Syria and the other against an understrength Liberia - before consecutive World Cup qualifying losses against Oman and Japan sealed its World Cup fate.

Iraq supporters have taken to Facebook over the past few days to launch a series of attacks on the IFA administration and it’s understood those protests could be replicated in Sydney on Tuesday.

While Nashat, playing in his homeland, will continue his club career, Younis has retired from both club as well as national duty.

Both were key contributors to the 2007 Asian Cup title and their departure brings to an end what is widely regarded to as one of the golden ages of Iraqi football.

Alaa Abdul-Zahra, who was sent off in the loss to Japan, as well as one of the backup goalkeepers, also failed to travel to Australia meaning Petrovic will rely heavily on a young and inexperienced squad.

Up to five members of the country’s youth side, which qualified for the 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup, are expected to be involved against the Socceroos

[pv4]

how is everyone getting from strathfield to the ground? think i'll be catching the train that gets to strathfield at 5:51

[Jeterpool]

That was Alaa Abdul-Zahra. One of their reserve keepers isn't coming either.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1156085/Iraq-stars-pull-out-of-Socceroos-clash

Iraq stars pull out of Socceroos clash


Is Ali involved in the squad?

[Grimario]

Is Ali involved in the squad?

Not in the squad that was named. Wonder if he might get a late call up due to these withdrawals, given that he is in Australia and doesn't have to travel.

[Premy]

how is everyone getting from strathfield to the ground? think i'll be catching the train that gets to strathfield at 5:51

Yeah I'm going by train haven't looked at trains from Strathfield yet was just going to wing it. I'm getting on the train that arrives at Strathfield at 5:05 cheap drinks in the pub across the road is better then $10 plastic cups from the brewery.

[Jeterpool]

Not in the squad that was named. Wonder if he might get a late call up due to these withdrawals, given that he is in Australia and doesn't have to travel.

It would make sense. But by the sounds of things the IFA may need that in addition to extra players.

[boz-monaut]

this is why I won't be celebrating until we either go up by 75 goals and Iraq players all are rendered unable to walk

1981 - New Zealand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJtbgJM3M-0

[boz-monaut]

1985 - Scotland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZZziELxKgw

[boz-monaut]

1989 - Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5kILy9DMsU

[boz-monaut]

1993 - Argentina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_EUJQit4xI

[boz-monaut]

1997 - Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pziKluqYnd4

[boz-monaut]

2001 - Uruguay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEUgV8b4Ruo

sure people might think I'm negative but I've lived through this

[baldrick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNSXKqVeq4

But then we got this

[belchardo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNSXKqVeq4

But then we got this

fantastic night.

[Jeterpool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNSXKqVeq4

But then we got this

Yeah we did :) :)

[steve136]

Reading the RBB facebook decision to not support Terrace Australis is f*cking hilarious. God you'd think football in Australia had never existed before the Wanderers the way these self-entitled pricks carry on. So you had great support in your first season - where you finished 1st. Congratulations, see you after you miss the finals one year.

[MFKS]

Reading the RBB facebook decision to not support Terrace Australis is f*cking hilarious. God you'd think football in Australia had never existed before the Wanderers the way these self-entitled pricks carry on. So you had great support in your first season - where you finished 1st. Congratulations, see you after you miss the finals one year.

It is rather hilarious listening to these dickheads carry on. Don't wish to support be involved with the Terrace Australis active support group because it is FFA sanctioned \ driven because the FFA has banned some of their misbehaving fans.

Dumb ****s don't even seem to be aware let alone acknowledge its the same FFA who funds and runs their club.



Can't wait for the shit to hit the fan at their club.

The arrogance of their fans needs a hard bitch slap from reality

[My2BobsWorth]

If it's on Myface it must be true

[furns]

FFA posting that game at Homebush is sold out

[Retro Jet]

Found this poorly researched piece on TWG site tonight.




As if facing a must-win encounter in front of more than 80,000 expectant fans wasn't daunting enough.

For many of the Socceroos a victory against Iraq on Tuesday represents their last chance to play in a World Cup.

Australia's most capped player Mark Schwarzer, who would be 41 come next year's showpiece in Brazil, would become the oldest ever player at a World Cup should the Socceroos triumph over world No.98 Iraq at Stadium Australia.......bla bla bla
Alarm bells started ringing when I read that statement. It didn't take long checking a few birthdays on Wiki and thinking of Peter Shilton and Roger Milla off the top of me head. FMD, who writes this shit? Schwarzer will be 41 on the 6th October this year so yes, 41y 8mths next year if we make it and he's selected. Roger Milla born 20 May 1952 was 42y 2 mths in USA 1994. Peter Shilton born 18th Sept 1949 was 40 and 9 months at Italia 90. It will make Schwarzer the oldest goalkeeper in WC history and the oldest Aussie player by far as well, but not "the oldest player ever".

[militiamon]

Good call Retro. Seems that that probably just got that line from this Herald Sun article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-goalkeeper-mark-schwarzer-adopts-strict-meat-and-veg-diet-in-bid-to-become-world-cups-oldest-player/story-fni2wcjl-1226660953356

Which has the headline:

"Socceroos goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer adopts strict meat and veg diet in bid to become World Cup's oldest player"

but confusingly, if you read the article itself it says exactly what you pointed out:


If he plays at next year's World Cup he will become the oldest keeper to do so, overtaking illustrious trio Pat Jennings, Peter Shilton and Dino Zoff, and the second oldest player after Camerunian Roger Milla.

And a quick check of the FIFA stats confirms this:

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/tournaments/worldcup/players/index.html

[parksey]

stop the presses!

[militiamon]

A good lesson for you parksey when you inevitably end up becoming a sub-editor writing the headlines of other peoples stories.

[parksey]

it's a living

[GazFish35]

The herald sun..... What else would you expect.
Surprised there's no quote from a victim of a sokkah riot climbing schwarzer hit her child

[furns]

For anyone joining us at the Terrace Australis meet up at Whelans aka Strathfield Hotel, there will be "I Told You So" Johnny Warren Football Foundation scarves on sale for $15 each

all monies will be going straight back to the JWFF

[furns]

from TA foz

We are leaving Whelans at 6:10, there is a train at 6:14pm and we will be at the Olympic park station at around 6:21pm.
We will march in singing songs and be in side the stadium at 6:35pm

[belchardo]

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/06/17/4497066/art-20130617_135622-620x349.jpg

:D

[Premy]

For anyone joining us at the Terrace Australis meet up at Whelans aka Strathfield Hotel, there will be "I Told You So" Johnny Warren Football Foundation scarves on sale for $15 each

all monies will be going straight back to the JWFF
Mark me down for a scarf

[goaliepersempre]

Am catching the 330 train from hamilton, if anyone else is training it down.

Def keen for a scarf

[Premy]

Am catching the 330 train from hamilton, if anyone else is training it down.

Def keen for a scarf

I'm going on the 2:45 from Broadmedow get to Strathfield 5:05

[furns]

Any newy lads unsure of where Whelans is, just get off at Strathy and follow the Everton Rd exit signs. Its to the right of the roundabout and you should see it as soon as you exit the station.
Apparently its happy hour drinks all day and a free sausage sizzle from what I have read. Expect epicness and a large turnout.

[Jetmaster]

Football day, fire up, farken.....and all that.

[BodyNovo]

mon roos

[Jeterpool]

Football day, fire up, farken.....and all that.

+1

[q-money]

don't **** it up dickheads

[Beeen]

Ali Abbas is the inside man. Don't worry they've got it covered.

[au revoir]

caaaarrrnn

[Mitchy]

Yew yew

[belchardo]

http://www.wpclipart.com/cartoon/signs/more_signs/warning_banana_skin.jpg

[Captain Obvious]

Winning this would be great for our chances of qualifying

[Jeterpool]

Winning this would be great for our chances of qualifying

Welcome back

[joel31]

Can't wait for tonight

[boz-monaut]

if we lose it's because Muz wasn't setting off car alarms out the front of hotels last night

[belchardo]

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/274303,terrace-australis-think-big-for-iraq-game.aspx

light read for everyone. a lot of flogs in the comments section.

i am a bit surprised they revealed the tifo before the match.

looks good though.

[furns]

lol nothing was revealed ffs

all that shows is some standards being painted, the pullover is nowhere on that picture

[pv4]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2zrkdoj.png

[goaliepersempre]

Like one comment said, it gives some insight to the bandwagoners. What people do. It's a positive article on active

Keen almost at Hamo station.

Def don't like having a car ATM :(

[furns]

where was that posted? thats not the pic from that article

[pv4]

FFT homepage - pic links to the article

[furns]

ok, its the splash pic. I wouldnt have made that pic available, but then again how do you generate interest ffs? And as I posted on 442, it really doesnt show anything apart from the size and a quarter of the paint job.

[goaliepersempre]

Chilling in 9138... The joy of the trip to syd on the train

[Jetmaster]

Newy Herald can get knotted - posted a comment this morning that 2005 was the greatest atmosphere in Australian sport and nights like tonight show why this is the worlds greatest game.

Bogan moderators must have deemed it offensive - it's not there !

[My2BobsWorth]

Juicy odds on Iraq:grin:

[belchardo]

hope the socceroos win tonight. don't want to have to stay up for a 2am kick off in the other game.

[boz-monaut]

at Wollongong Railway Station - am currently only supporter here - everyone else appears to be on some form of benefits

****s here don't deserve an A-league team

[Rocknerd]

In Auburn still, but only fan here that I can see, surrounded by ****s on benefits. But then that's Auburn, leaving now though, Shish roll before the beer!

[plague]

on the lounge drinking.
looks cold out.
have fun chaps.

[My2BobsWorth]

Half pist already, will be shitfaced by SBS time

[boz-monaut]

no beers yet, apparently the brewery at Olympic Park is too packed to get in

won't be able to calm the nerves at this rate

mid strength stadium beers it is

[Jeterpool]

To those going down/already there enjoy the match

[Jeterpool]

Anyone got a lineup?

[Jeterpool]

There you go...checking the skins by the official

[Jeterpool]

And was that Timmy V leading Terrace Australis?

[Bec]

unlucky..Nice save

[belchardo]

glad we've really managed to put together a good pitch for this game.

looks like they're preparing for the big bash matches already with those two strips down the camera side of the field.

not sure what to say about this performance so far.

[Jeterpool]

not sure what to say about this performance so far.

Terrible. Worst of last fortnight. Kruse peaked last week it seems. Wilkshere can't cross to save himself. We rush our final cross when the option to bring it in and cut back exists. Effing round with it at the back.

But Cahill scores after 4 mins it's totally different game. Needs Thompson. And Rogic

[Jeterpool]

We're playing nervous or anxious.

[Captain Obvious]

we really need to score a goal to have any chance of winning this.

[Jeterpool]

we really need to score a goal to have any chance of winning this.

You're right there Cap

[belchardo]

Terrible. Worst of last fortnight. Kruse peaked last week it seems. Wilkshere can't cross to save himself. We rush our final cross when the option to bring it in and cut back exists. Effing round with it at the back.

But Cahill scores after 4 mins it's totally different game. Needs Thompson. And Rogic

do you have a bug in my house? :D

yep, creativity required. holman off, rogic on at 60 minutes. thompson on at 70 minutes for either kruse or oar.

i would also say nervous and anxious.

[belchardo]

also distinct lack of Mel. no wonder they are playing poorly, no one worth flirting with in the post match interview for the man of the match.

[Jeterpool]

do you have a bug in my house? :D

yep, creativity required. holman off, rogic on at 60 minutes. thompson on at 70 minutes for either kruse or oar.

i would also say nervous and anxious.

No bugs you need to know about ha ha

[Jeterpool]

Our tempo is far slower than the last few weeks too. Not up in their faces as much

[belchardo]

is it too early/pessimistic to book flights for melbourne, brisbane and sydney for both the 6th and 10th of september already?

time for a change, we are getting run off our feet and nobody can get near them when they have the ball.

[Jeterpool]

do you have a bug in my house? :D

yep, creativity required. holman off, rogic on at 60 minutes. thompson on at 70 minutes for either kruse or oar.

i would also say nervous and anxious.

So what next Holger? :)

[Jeterpool]

Rogic looking good. Never noticed so much when he was in a Gypo shirt

[Jeterpool]

Come on boys

[Jeterpool]

Change it up Holger

[Jeterpool]

Why Kennedy when we've not put in a decent cross all night?

[Bec]

Why Kennedy when we've not put in a decent cross all night?


That's why haha...Woooo!!!

[Jeterpool]

Why Kennedy when we've not put in a decent cross all night?

Oh that's why

[Jeterpool]

That's why haha...Woooo!!!

First decent cross all night Bec

[baldrick]

Jaysus, was dying a thousand deaths.

[Jeterpool]

Jaysus, was dying a thousand deaths.

Yes. Jaysus scored. But he's had a haircut

[Bec]

sure was..now im nervous

[Jeterpool]

World cup baby!!!!!!

[Bec]

Brazil here we come wooooo!!!

[belchardo]

god almighty. just...god...hate football sometimes...stress is horrible, can't wait till i'm 65 and have a bad heart.

mel so hot right now.

[Jeterpool]

god almighty. just...god...hate football sometimes...stress is horrible, can't wait till i'm 65 and have a bad heart.

mel so hot right now.

Mel is hot 24/7

And this is the complete opposite to the feeling against Japan. Wooooo!!

[Jeterpool]

Upon reflection I agree with belchardo

[belchardo]

Mel looks like she wants to jump schwarzer...

[belchardo]

credit to holger tonight. thought he'd ****ed up another game, made the changes that needed to be made, result secured.

still not sure how the hell kennedy got that free.

[belchardo]

After tonight, Rogic should start ahead of Holman. We also need a left and right back. Wilkshere isn't cutting it anymore and McKay isn't a left back

none of that. save it for tomorrow morning. i'll willingly join in then. :)

[belchardo]

delightful ball from bresciano. clinical finish from kennedy.

[Jeterpool]

none of that. save it for tomorrow morning. i'll willingly join in then. :)

Fixed. You're right too. Tonight is for celebration

[Jeterpool]

Mel looks like she wants to jump schwarzer...

After some of the saves he's made for us over the years I can't hardly blame her! :)

Belchardo, Bec, pleasure chatting tonight

[Bec]

Pleasure chatting to you too

[belchardo]

credit to terrace australis. started strong, went a bit quiet in the middle, but damn they made some noise at the end.

[belchardo]

bec, you aren't allowed to leave until you make a comment about how hot Mel is.

[belchardo]

credit to timmy. cracked the shits when subbed off for kennedy, first to the stacks-on when he scored. love the passion from the little man with the crazy ability to float through the air.

[Captain Obvious]

we really need to score a goal to have any chance of winning this.

I told you so.

[baldrick]

Was just as good watching it again on SBS

[belchardo]

captain oblivious so oblivious he hasn't even realised the game is over.

[belchardo]

Was just as good watching it again on SBS

flicked over just in time to see the goal. awesome.

[Premy]

Capo isnt any of the current HAL capos, and no tweaking of HAL chants.
Pretty sure I seen Timmy up on that Capo stand don't call me a liar