2014 National Premier League

[Imyourhero]

If Jobe I'm tipping jaffas 2-1, if not, Weston 1-0

[spamg172]

Kind of hope Connor Evans scores one thru Sessions legs and has the paper article in his pocket for the celebration.

[hawk]

Scores early grades?

[Newsfeed]

Scores early grades?

19s 1-1 jets 5-4 pens

[hawk]

19s 1-1 jets 5-4 pens

cheers nf.

[Newsfeed]

0-0 ht 22s olympic 10 men

[Bremsstrahlung]

22s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXx_AKsCl0#t=1165

[Newsfeed]

22s: 2-0 olympic

[weston]

Referee is card happy. 5 or 6 yellows. Probably only 1 fair one

[halo se7en]

What a boring half of football. Jaffas up 2-0 at HT.

[Beppe]

What a boring half of football. Jaffas up 2-0 at HT.

Agree, farkin terrible football.

[halo se7en]

Shittest game of the year.

[weston]

Connor Evans <3

All seriousness it wasn't the best game. Jobe Wheelhouse ran the show. Don't know how Bradberry didn't score. Referee was average and very card happy. Not a good day for Weston. Never looked threatening.

On the positive note, the carton of superdry the mrs bought me is going down well.

[Beppe]

Yeah pretty poor game, lambton deserved the win, weston offered nothing, what a bad day to turn in that type of display.

[Newsfeed]

Yeah pretty poor game, lambton deserved the win, weston offered nothing, what a bad day to turn in that type of display.

Who is your team

[Beppe]

Who is your team

Olympic

[halo se7en]

It sounded like someone got sent off just as I was out the gate?

[Beppe]

It sounded like someone got sent off just as I was out the gate?

Yeah Connor Evans got sent for a stray elbow.

[MFKS]

Yeah Connor Evans got sent for a stray elbow.

Wouldn't call it stray it found the mark.

Can't do that when you have the ball as the ref is always looking at you.

Would seem the sledge in the paper found its mark as the bloke went to water all day.

Jobe owned the game and the Jaffas were pretty comfortable winners. Can't recall Ireland doing **** all actually.

Always good to see the flogs from Kurri end up with nothing:whistling:

U22's was a pretty shit game another glaring failure for GVE and his master vision. All the ball in the world and 60 mins against 10 men and done nothing with it. Gave away a a soft pen with 10mins to go and then conceded from a turn over and long ball in the final minute. Bloke either needs to get the kids to move off the ball or **** off cause holding the ball achieves nothing

U19's even affair Jets dominated the first half and took a 1-0 lead. Olympic came back and owned the second and levelled it up
Went to pens and Jets keeper saved the first and the third JEts missed the 3rd and then had the chance to win it with the 5th but it was saved. Not a great effort though.

Olympic scored and then Jets scored which was rather humourous as the EJ kids had no one show any interest in taking it before the young African kid stepped up and despite looking like a condemned man heading to the gallows took one of the coolest pens you will ever see.

Olympic then had their next saved and after more indecision from the Jets as to who wanted it their GK took matters into his own hands stepped up and drilled it home and then wandered round the pitch like nothing had occurred before being mobbed

Good day and credit to Edgy for doing a much better effort than I thought they would

[weston]

Yeah Connor Evans got sent for a stray elbow.

I think he knew exactly where his elbow was going. Right on his nose

[Imyourhero]

Evans completely outclassed today after all his hype. All it took was one week of somebody actually marking him out of the game.

[MFKS]

Evans completely outclassed today after all his hype. All it took was one week of somebody actually marking him out of the game.

I wouldn't say he was marked out of the game. Jaffas just pressured him anytime he got so his output was always gonna be limited

The other week Jets Yoof let him have the ball and he killed them.

Didn't really notice him being man marked just closed down when he got the ball

[Thomas477]

Didn't the card count end up with something like 6-2 to the Jaffas? Ref seemed to let a lot of Weston players off, and he lost all credibility when he booked Ireland for moving the ball 2m away from where a FK was meant to be. Jaffas deserved it though.

Also, how ****ing stupid by Evans. I know he was probably baited all game, but **** me, it was stupid.

Also watched the 22s. The red to Olympic was for a shirt tug when the jet was clear through. Thought it was fair enough tbh, although he could have given a yellow as the jet was moving away from goal and the Olympic keeper was quick off his line. But Olympic deserved it, Olympics keeper only had 1 real save to make in the second half, was a top save too, if the ball was still in play :p

[Pier67]

Disappointing for Weston but were outclassed by the jaffas. Weston keeper clearly not 100% and probably would have thought he could have prevented both goals when at his best. Surprised that Piggott didn't change their shape and go three at the back or do something.

Btw first time I have seen a player who was subbed at halftime in a grand final, shower grab a beer and stand on the hill.

[The Magician]

Disappointing for Weston but were outclassed by the jaffas. Weston keeper clearly not 100% and probably would have thought he could have prevented both goals when at his best. Surprised that Piggott didn't change their shape and go three at the back or do something.

Btw first time I have seen a player who was subbed at halftime in a grand final, shower grab a beer and stand on the hill.

Evans red card... violent conduct = 2 games... National Discipline Policy means he must miss out on next fixtures which will be the NPL Cup.

[MFKS]

Any idea on what the crowd figure was??

[The Magician]

Any idea on what the crowd figure was??

4100 through the gates on the day

[MFKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXx_AKsCl0
U22's GF in entirety if anyone is interested

[MFKS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFJx-pw9MLs
u19's GF in Entirety

[plague]

Good on the Jaffas.
Good on Jobe.
Ledge.

[john]

I hate to say but Edgeworth put on a great show yesterday... although the game wasnt the best...Gives rise to other grounds hosting the grand final...I think that Broadmeadow wont be hosting for a while. I have always loved watching games from Adamstown oval and some other grounds could host it if they put in similar work to what edgeworth has over the last couple of years.

[supasub]

4100 through the gates on the day

Wasn't last years figure around 8000-9000, disappointing turnout IMO

[The Magician]

Wasn't last years figure around 8000-9000, disappointing turnout IMO

5800

[MFKS]

Wasn't last years figure around 8000-9000, disappointing turnout IMO

No where near 8-9k but the crowd was defo down on last year.
Regardless the Edgy Club done a great job.

Hopefully next time though they teach the women how to cook a BBQ.

Poor Ladies near the canteen looked totally out of their depth

[The Magician]

No where near 8-9k but the crowd was defo down on last year.
Regardless the Edgy Club done a great job.

Hopefully next time though they teach the women how to cook a BBQ.

Poor Ladies near the canteen looked totally out of their depth

Cooking a BBQ is a step up from pulling pies and sausage rolls from a warmer and charging extra for sauce.

[eggball convert]

Well I had a pretty good day all up, inadvertently sat in what appeared to be the baby jets squadron for the first two games so got a bit of a laugh from the heckles going back and forth between them and the olympic bench. First grade was an interesting game, maybe some would say boring but unfortunately for Weston they just didn't turn up. Was also my first look at the Kale and Maj combo and thought they were combining well with Jobe, shame they wont be together again next year. Have seen some talk about Jobe being reconsidered at the Jets but I think being outstanding for the Jaffas is a good leap away from being useful at HAL level, happy to be proven wrong though. Referee did give out a fair bit of cheese, but I imagine he was just erring on the side of the game not getting out of control, fairly reasonable in a GF. Also my first look at the updated Edgy facilities and wasn't disappointed, though I was a little bit devastated I couldn't get my traditional bucket of hot chips with all their greasy salty goodness.

[MFKS]

though I was a little bit devastated I couldn't get my traditional bucket of hot chips with all their greasy salty goodness.

Probably should have been manning a deep fryer then than trying to start fires by burning the charcoal they already had on the steaks and snags

[leftrightout]

There was a lack of toilets... 4 portaloos on the far side of the field where most people were sitting/standing. It was quite annoying needing a piss in 1st grade and it taking 5 or so minutes to line up!

[pv4]

Also watched the 22s. The red to Olympic was for a shirt tug when the jet was clear through. Thought it was fair enough tbh, although he could have given a yellow as the jet was moving away from goal and the Olympic keeper was quick off his line.

I watched that incident on youtube and thought he denied a clear goal scoring opportunity and even though the Jets player didn't go down, I was extremely happy with the ref for giving the red. To me, he handled it perfectly. Tell him I said that, outsider.

[MFKS]

I watched that incident on youtube and thought he denied a clear goal scoring opportunity and even though the Jets player didn't go down, I was extremely happy with the ref for giving the red. To me, he handled it perfectly. Tell him I said that, outsider.

I thought it was a pretty dumb play. The Jets kid although through was no certainty to get to the ball before the keeper anyway and then still had to score. Seemed rather needless to concede the foul particularly with 60 mins to go as the consequences were always gonna be red.

It was as clear a red for professional foul as you will ever see I can't believe people disagree

[supasub]

5800

Ah my bad, it must have been when it was Magic vs Hamilton they had a massive crowd, but let's be honest that's expected.

[The Acolyte]

I wouldn't say he was marked out of the game. Jaffas just pressured him anytime he got so his output was always gonna be limited

The other week Jets Yoof let him have the ball and he killed them.

Didn't really notice him being man marked just closed down when he got the ball

Have you got oldtimers, your first story said young Evans went to water then you say they marked him tight, which they did as a result of Westons midfield, I contributed more to the game as I paid at the gate,I don't bag players for not being up to the job, the coach puts them there, that's his mistake, Jaffas must have thought it was Christmas when they saw the line up, but irrespective of a players ability I expect them to compete and that didn't happen as has been the case previously, I,m glad Piggo isn't my mechanic I'd have panic attacks everytime I went near my car, in the last round he changed something that didn't need fixing and they watched the minor premiership go out the door, then the midfield problem that needed fixing wasn't and made Jobe look like Iniesta, good luck to the Jaffas they took the opportunity presented to them and were by far the better side. As for you halfwit comments on Evans, he received one near opportunity all day which Ireland just got before him , I watched the game again on Utube mainly to check that after driving 300 miles I turned up at the right game and that I didn't nod off and dream what I saw. I'll give you one point , the elbow landed exactly where it should have, the only mistake Evans made was not giving the bloke the opportunity to have a grab of his shirt from the front after the game, for the record there were four fouls given on him in the first half including a yellow, mcpherson got a freebie at 1.02.30 and Dino Fadj's was red hot. I've watched most of the BAR TV matches this year and though never having heard of this young bloke before rate him above any others that I have seen and have also seen the way some of the celebrated players of the competition counter his skills , and I wouldn't feed 'em on rotten meat. I've got two dogs , ones named mack and the others pete, i'll take them for a walk now

[Premy]

Final series naming rights.

PS4 National Premier League.
http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=149&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2014&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=09&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=9477&cHash=62e46065821e0cdadf881946b9e1f85d

[Thomas477]

Acolyte, what the hell is "old-timers"? I've never heard of that disease?

[The Acolyte]

Acolyte, what the hell is "old-timers"? I've never heard of that disease?

You probably have, but now you're confused or you just forget

[Imyourhero]

what the hell just happened?

[Pier67]

Have you got oldtimers, your first story said young Evans went to water then you say they marked him tight, which they did as a result of Westons midfield, I contributed more to the game as I paid at the gate,I don't bag players for not being up to the job, the coach puts them there, that's his mistake, Jaffas must have thought it was Christmas when they saw the line up, but irrespective of a players ability I expect them to compete and that didn't happen as has been the case previously, I,m glad Piggo isn't my mechanic I'd have panic attacks everytime I went near my car, in the last round he changed something that didn't need fixing and they watched the minor premiership go out the door, then the midfield problem that needed fixing wasn't and made Jobe look like Iniesta, good luck to the Jaffas they took the opportunity presented to them and were by far the better side. As for you halfwit comments on Evans, he received one near opportunity all day which Ireland just got before him , I watched the game again on Utube mainly to check that after driving 300 miles I turned up at the right game and that I didn't nod off and dream what I saw. I'll give you one point , the elbow landed exactly where it should have, the only mistake Evans made was not giving the bloke the opportunity to have a grab of his shirt from the front after the game, for the record there were four fouls given on him in the first half including a yellow, mcpherson got a freebie at 1.02.30 and Dino Fadj's was red hot. I've watched most of the BAR TV matches this year and though never having heard of this young bloke before rate him above any others that I have seen and have also seen the way some of the celebrated players of the competition counter his skills , and I wouldn't feed 'em on rotten meat. I've got two dogs , ones named mack and the others pete, i'll take them for a walk now

That's red hot, wow I'm getting dizzy

[The Acolyte]

That's red hot, wow I'm getting dizzy

Sorry, I didn't mean to overload you , it's just that I see more because I use both eyes when I watch a game

[The Acolyte]

I know who you are , you're the ref from yesty, he was continually wondering "wot jest 'appened 'en?"

[prawnhead]

Have you got oldtimers, your first story said young Evans went to water then you say they marked him tight, which they did as a result of Westons midfield, I contributed more to the game as I paid at the gate,I don't bag players for not being up to the job, the coach puts them there, that's his mistake, Jaffas must have thought it was Christmas when they saw the line up, but irrespective of a players ability I expect them to compete and that didn't happen as has been the case previously, I,m glad Piggo isn't my mechanic I'd have panic attacks everytime I went near my car, in the last round he changed something that didn't need fixing and they watched the minor premiership go out the door, then the midfield problem that needed fixing wasn't and made Jobe look like Iniesta, good luck to the Jaffas they took the opportunity presented to them and were by far the better side. As for you halfwit comments on Evans, he received one near opportunity all day which Ireland just got before him , I watched the game again on Utube mainly to check that after driving 300 miles I turned up at the right game and that I didn't nod off and dream what I saw. I'll give you one point , the elbow landed exactly where it should have, the only mistake Evans made was not giving the bloke the opportunity to have a grab of his shirt from the front after the game, for the record there were four fouls given on him in the first half including a yellow, mcpherson got a freebie at 1.02.30 and Dino Fadj's was red hot. I've watched most of the BAR TV matches this year and though never having heard of this young bloke before rate him above any others that I have seen and have also seen the way some of the celebrated players of the competition counter his skills , and I wouldn't feed 'em on rotten meat. I've got two dogs , ones named mack and the others pete, i'll take them for a walk now

Pete Macpherson would be stoked with your dogs names. Some post old mate!

[The Magician]

Ah my bad, it must have been when it was Magic vs Hamilton they had a massive crowd, but let's be honest that's expected.

Actually Magic v Hamilton GF was only 5200 but more people stayed for the main game which gave that impression

[The Acolyte]

Oh, I nearly forgot, AAAHHH, bugger it, all taxi drivers are the same, so I'll only bag humans part humans and others, the steak sandwichs were nice though

[Pier67]

I know who you are , you're the ref from yesty, he was continually wondering "wot jest 'appened 'en?"

great comeback, I'll pay that. What was the ref thinking.

[The Acolyte]

Pete Macpherson would be stoked with your dogs names. Some post old mate!

I hope he didn't get too excited about it because me and my two buddies had a nasty experience on our walk, they took off after a fox terrier and were going in from behind as usual when the little bugger turned round, they didn't know what to do when he was facing them and the bloody foxy cleaned 'em both up, I may have to put them down, which probably isn't such a bad thing , if they can't handle a foxy from the front then they're not much good

[plague]

Have you got oldtimers, your first story said young Evans went to water then you say they marked him tight, which they did as a result of Westons midfield, I contributed more to the game as I paid at the gate,I don't bag players for not being up to the job, the coach puts them there, that's his mistake, Jaffas must have thought it was Christmas when they saw the line up, but irrespective of a players ability I expect them to compete and that didn't happen as has been the case previously, I,m glad Piggo isn't my mechanic I'd have panic attacks everytime I went near my car, in the last round he changed something that didn't need fixing and they watched the minor premiership go out the door, then the midfield problem that needed fixing wasn't and made Jobe look like Iniesta, good luck to the Jaffas they took the opportunity presented to them and were by far the better side. As for you halfwit comments on Evans, he received one near opportunity all day which Ireland just got before him , I watched the game again on Utube mainly to check that after driving 300 miles I turned up at the right game and that I didn't nod off and dream what I saw. I'll give you one point , the elbow landed exactly where it should have, the only mistake Evans made was not giving the bloke the opportunity to have a grab of his shirt from the front after the game, for the record there were four fouls given on him in the first half including a yellow, mcpherson got a freebie at 1.02.30 and Dino Fadj's was red hot. I've watched most of the BAR TV matches this year and though never having heard of this young bloke before rate him above any others that I have seen and have also seen the way some of the celebrated players of the competition counter his skills , and I wouldn't feed 'em on rotten meat. I've got two dogs , ones named mack and the others pete, i'll take them for a walk now

For Christmas this year I will buy you many full stops.
Enjoy.

[Bremsstrahlung]

:popcorn:



Send off in 22s warranted.
Imo, the keeper would've gotten to that ball no worries without the interference. The fact he interfered gave the impression he was gonna get there first and thus a goal scoring opportunity.
Haven't heard many complaints about it.

[pv4]

Actually Magic v Hamilton GF was only 5200 but more people stayed for the main game which gave that impression

Good day, that one.

[MFKS]

Have you got oldtimers, your first story said young Evans went to water then you say they marked him tight, which they did as a result of Westons midfield, I contributed more to the game as I paid at the gate,I don't bag players for not being up to the job, the coach puts them there, that's his mistake, Jaffas must have thought it was Christmas when they saw the line up, but irrespective of a players ability I expect them to compete and that didn't happen as has been the case previously, I,m glad Piggo isn't my mechanic I'd have panic attacks everytime I went near my car, in the last round he changed something that didn't need fixing and they watched the minor premiership go out the door, then the midfield problem that needed fixing wasn't and made Jobe look like Iniesta, good luck to the Jaffas they took the opportunity presented to them and were by far the better side. As for you halfwit comments on Evans, he received one near opportunity all day which Ireland just got before him , I watched the game again on Utube mainly to check that after driving 300 miles I turned up at the right game and that I didn't nod off and dream what I saw. I'll give you one point , the elbow landed exactly where it should have, the only mistake Evans made was not giving the bloke the opportunity to have a grab of his shirt from the front after the game, for the record there were four fouls given on him in the first half including a yellow, mcpherson got a freebie at 1.02.30 and Dino Fadj's was red hot. I've watched most of the BAR TV matches this year and though never having heard of this young bloke before rate him above any others that I have seen and have also seen the way some of the celebrated players of the competition counter his skills , and I wouldn't feed 'em on rotten meat. I've got two dogs , ones named mack and the others pete, i'll take them for a walk now
:roflz::woo::yeahright:


So you reckon I have Old Timers yet from what I see you have a bad case of dyslexia

You claim I said they marked him tight

I think my claim was they didn't mark him but closed him down when he got it. Shouldn't be too hard for you to find as it is in my post you quoted

So either you have a dyslexia problem or you need to buy a copy of soccer for dummies as you can't tell apart closing down and marking. Problem is if you do have dyslexia the book won't help you




As for your comments on Jaffas tactics to counter Weston FFS that's a laugh.

Weston can not whinge about being on the receiving end of some aggressive physical play not with their record. Weston got away with more than their fair share of ugly fouls on the day also.

As for the shirt pulling being the cause of the Send Off plenty of other blokes would have had their shirt pulled and didn't lash out with an elbow. Maybe the blame needs directing at the bloke who lost the plot in frustration

Well done for driving so far too watch the game. Bravo:yay:

How are the dogs and did they enjoy the walk???

[Thomas477]

Send off in 22s warranted.
Imo, the keeper would've gotten to that ball no worries without the interference. The fact he interfered gave the impression he was gonna get there first and thus a goal scoring opportunity.
Haven't heard many complaints about it.

I agree and wasn't saying it wasn't warranted, just have seen some other refs only give a yellow as the forward was not directly running to goals

[MFKS]

I agree and wasn't saying it wasn't warranted, just have seen some other refs only give a yellow as the forward was not directly running to goals
Not running directly at goals to me doesn't mean you are necessarily running in a straight line at the goal.

The bloke was chasing the ball which was heading into the area of the park you want to be shooting at goal from. If he gets to the ball before keeper he has very good chance of scoring.

At all times he was actually getting closer to the goal even if he wasn't moving in a direction that was reducing the distance as quick as possible


Contrast this with the foul in the U19's by the Jets Keeper which got a yellow. The Olympic player beat him to the ball as the keeper dived in and tackled late and got a yellow.

Difference was the Olympic kid was heading directly to the corner flag/ sideline and was still 25 metres from goal on an acute angle and actually moving further away from goal. Yes he could cross it in and score from there but with the Jets players heading back into the goal mouth the chances of it going in were almost non existent even if he managed to get the shot perfectly executed

[Thomas477]

Didn't see the 19s game, so I can't comment on that, but as I said, I have no dramas with it being a red. How the Olympic player thought it wasn't is beyond me...

[The Acolyte]

:roflz::woo::yeahright:


So you reckon I have Old Timers yet from what I see you have a bad case of dyslexia

You claim I said they marked him tight

I think my claim was they didn't mark him but closed him down when he got it. Shouldn't be too hard for you to find as it is in my post you quoted

So either you have a dyslexia problem or you need to buy a copy of soccer for dummies as you can't tell apart closing down and marking. Problem is if you do have dyslexia the book won't help you




As for your comments on Jaffas tactics to counter Weston FFS that's a laugh.

Weston can not whinge about being on the receiving end of some aggressive physical play not with their record. Weston got away with more than their fair share of ugly fouls on the day also.

As for the shirt pulling being the cause of the Send Off plenty of other blokes would have had their shirt pulled and didn't lash out with an elbow. Maybe the blame needs directing at the bloke who lost the plot in frustration

Well done for driving so far too watch the game. Bravo:yay:

How are the dogs and did they enjoy the walk???

I am trying to overcome my dyslexia problem , I'm eating 2 packets of Quick Eze a day but they don,t seem to be working, also I do have a copy of Soccer for Dummies and it's interesting to see that your face is on the cover, you should be more subtle plugging your book...............Trying to please everyone. mack has gone to GOD but pete will recover and when he does I'm gunna give him a kick in the guts for costing so much money and getting outboxed by a foxy and he'll probably run off and find some one else to feed him, he was only a mongrel stray that's been bludging his way all over town for years anyway

[monz6]

Didn't see the 19s game, so I can't comment on that, but as I said, I have no dramas with it being a red. How the Olympic player thought it wasn't is beyond me...

He knew it was a red... He got sent off 15 into a Grand Final surely you can forgive him for being shocked/upset/frustrated and not walking straight off

[The Acolyte]

I just tried these new coloured glasses and they seem to work so I went and got my book of phrases and looked up " Went to water ", just to be sure I hadn't misunderstood the meaning all these years given my dyspepsia problem.

Went to water = turned it up, dogged it, rolled over, heart fell out, [ a term usually used by non combatants when assessing others that they will never compete against],. That's what it says, sounds complicated to me.

Also I 'm not real sure about these glasses, it looks like replaced your photo with the head of a Berkshire pig, I don't wish to be insulting but it may take a while to get used to them. Thanks for your advice though, you've really helped me I can now stop eating Quick Eze

[leftrightout]

:popcorn:

[Bremsstrahlung]

I don't even know what we are talking about now...

[De-Champ]

I don't either but acolyte's posts are funny.

[judge]

Just saw the mongrel stray go past with a grand final Winners medal round his neck, looked fairly happy too. Heard the foxy's out for a spell.:yay:
I am trying to overcome my dyslexia problem , I'm eating 2 packets of Quick Eze a day but they don,t seem to be working, also I do have a copy of Soccer for Dummies and it's interesting to see that your face is on the cover, you should be more subtle plugging your book...............Trying to please everyone. mack has gone to GOD but pete will recover and when he does I'm gunna give him a kick in the guts for costing so much money and getting outboxed by a foxy and he'll probably run off and find some one else to feed him, he was only a mongrel stray that's been bludging his way all over town for years anyway

[The Acolyte]

Just saw the mongrel stray go past with a grand final Winners medal round his neck, looked fairly happy too. Heard the foxy's out for a spell.:yay:

Yeah , they tell me he's frolicking around on the beach having a dreadful time. But they say he's quite happy, you could now rightly say he went to water. Are you sure that wasn't a registration tag

[The Acolyte]

Now just to show that I do know wot iym torken abowt, Palm Beach to beat Weston

Suggestion - Weston have a video session of the first half of the G F then a team walk up to the back paddock,with the knowledge that some won't be coming back, a couple will commit hari kari during the video so he'll only have to see a couple off [ show the judge the video , he'll understand]. The result being that he can then select the best side without offending any one and that little thug has already been taken care of.

This is only a theory, any other views on this?.

[MFKS]

Now just to show that I do know wot iym torken abowt, Palm Beach to beat Weston

Suggestion - Weston have a video session of the first half of the G F then a team walk up to the back paddock,with the knowledge that some won't be coming back, a couple will commit hari kari during the video so he'll only have to see a couple off [ show the judge the video , he'll understand]. The result being that he can then select the best side without offending any one and that little thug has already been taken care of.

This is only a theory, any other views on this?.

Well done nostraldumbarse:sup:


Really going out on a limb with a prediction to pick a quality Queensland NPL side to beat a shit NNSW side who crumbled whenever they had a chance to win anything all season.

If you are right doesn't prove that you know what you are talking about at all.



Judging by your past predictions you seem to have NFI anyway:sup:


At this time of year match fitness isn't the problem, managing injuries is, so I think the week off is an advantage


From what I've seen of both teams this season, I live away these days so I only get the BAR TV games,it looks like the Bears to me. It ain't a fight or a footrace, so big and fast won't be good enough and big and slow won't be either. It's a game of football and the Bears play it much better than the Jaffas, if they didn't have Danny Ireland they wouldn't even be part of the discussion

Both them proved completely off the mark on the weekend hey sunshine???

[Newsfeed]

Coach of the year? Player of the year?

[hawk]

season over apart from the awards night.

time to head to the FFA cup thread.

[Fairgo]

Coach of the year? Player of the year?

Connor Evans player of the year
Pascoe if he is eligible for coach of year if not Piggot

[The Acolyte]

There's no need to be insulting I can't be right all the time, I took the glasses off and the pigs head was still there, so that's another time I was wrong

[The Acolyte]

The story in the herald today was interesting , the herald suggesting a number and Sneddon nodding his head. I bet all the pollies from the area wish they'd got that deal at the ICAC. He must have studied along side Joe Hockey. People I know who's business it is to know the the asking price of players reckon it could be as high as $130,000 it's foolish to name your business when your announcing you can't count, I'm getting the bloke at the Herald to do my tax this year, I like his style.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Mother Theresa is that you?

[The Magician]

Mother Theresa is that you?

indeed... The Mother is suspiciously quiet after a furious introduction to the forum... Broken keyboard or a few week ban?

[The Acolyte]

indeed... The Mother is suspiciously quiet after a furious introduction to the forum... Broken keyboard or a few week ban?

Bless you my children, I wish I could help you but I work with the poor not the retarded

[MFKS]

Bless you my children, I wish I could help you but I work with the poor not the retarded

:roflz::sigh:

Blokes unarmed yet fires them off:slap::roflz:

[Imyourhero]

I'm loving this bloke

[terryk]

The story in the herald today was interesting , the herald suggesting a number and Sneddon nodding his head. I bet all the pollies from the area wish they'd got that deal at the ICAC. He must have studied along side Joe Hockey. People I know who's business it is to know the the asking price of players reckon it could be as high as $130,000 it's foolish to name your business when your announcing you can't count, I'm getting the bloke at the Herald to do my tax this year, I like his style.

Anybody thinking that Jaffas are spending less than 120k on their team are kidding themselves. It's embarrassing for Chris Snedden to offer any sort of opinion on this when blind Freddy can see they have bought the best players in the league and region, and people like Jobe, Maj, Ireland, Kale, etc, don't come cheap. Please save us all the bs either tell us all what your spending or say nothing at all. And for the record when you sign at least half your team from other clubs it is called buying the trophy.

[Thomas477]

Anybody thinking that Jaffas are spending less than 120k on their team are kidding themselves. It's embarrassing for Chris Snedden to offer any sort of opinion on this when blind Freddy can see they have bought the best players in the league and region, and people like Jobe, Maj, Ireland, Kale, etc, don't come cheap. Please save us all the bs either tell us all what your spending or say nothing at all. And for the record when you sign at least half your team from other clubs it is called buying the trophy.

Why should Jaffas have to reveal what they're paying blokes, when the other 9 clubs aren't? I found the comment below very accurate, and reflects what I said last year that people are just upset that the Jaffas have upset the status quo between the historically big clubs in Newcastle (Olympic, Magic etc). And what's the harm if the Jaffas are spending money on their squad? Why is it so different to Magic spending money on their facilities? If the Jaffas have sponsors who can cover the costs, good on them, same as Magic IMO.


Magic & Hamilton have attracted & bought the best juniors and seniors for 20 years. Now that Lambton have acquired a good team its a conspiracy. All the idots who now complain can have a cry.

[pv4]

Having had confirmed what several of the Jaffas guys are on wage-wise, I don't see how the club could have spent $120k on wages tbh. At most I daresay they spent $80k.

FWIW I know many of the Jaffas boys took less money at the Jaffas than they were offered elsewhere because they wanted to be apart of a winning team. The same has happened at Magic for years - they're both not as big a spending club as you think, it's just that the players take less money to "guarentee" they are in a good, competitive side. And I've already heard stories of a few Magic boys shopping themselves around, looking for a better deal, so possibly this poor year for the club may lose them some key players (or force Magic to pay more to hold onto them).

[The Acolyte]

Your missing the point, the points system ensured that clubs had to buy the right players, which Lambton did. Every one had the same points to play with. Other clubs bought players but Lambton did the best job of that. They still had to go out and win games though, and they did that also, they ran third in the competition. They then had a good finals series and won the Grand Final. The financial aspect of it is irrelevant as it's an open market, same as the housing market, that's why there are big houses and little houses, don't whinge save your money up. Miracles do happen all you need is some smart advice,

[MFKS]

Having had confirmed what several of the Jaffas guys are on wage-wise, I don't see how the club could have spent $120k on wages tbh. At most I daresay they spent $80k.

FWIW I know many of the Jaffas boys took less money at the Jaffas than they were offered elsewhere because they wanted to be apart of a winning team. The same has happened at Magic for years - they're both not as big a spending club as you think, it's just that the players take less money to "guarentee" they are in a good, competitive side. And I've already heard stories of a few Magic boys shopping themselves around, looking for a better deal, so possibly this poor year for the club may lose them some key players (or force Magic to pay more to hold onto them).

I wouldn't think Magic are worried.

Todays Herald and Virgili has confirmed the loss of Matt Paul to Adamstown and Bowling to retirement but has countered that by confirming Kale Finlayson and Dino Faj are going there.

I assume with Dino going Dennis is short odds to join so may be they won't have to waste Johnny Griff at RB next season.


Why should Jaffas have to reveal what they're paying blokes, when the other 9 clubs aren't? I found the comment below very accurate, and reflects what I said last year that people are just upset that the Jaffas have upset the status quo between the historically big clubs in Newcastle (Olympic, Magic etc). And what's the harm if the Jaffas are spending money on their squad? Why is it so different to Magic spending money on their facilities? If the Jaffas have sponsors who can cover the costs, good on them, same as Magic IMO.

Thomas to say Jaffas haven't bought the title is pushing the limits of belief. The 11 blokes who took the park on Sunday how many are Jaffas juniors and how many were playing for them in the NEW FM??

Needless to say the answers ain't large.

Good luck to them though. Their club is going places and doing a good job. Hopefully the next few years will see them strengthen and develop juniors and build a successful club from within rather than buying in Kale Johnny Maj Palozzi Faj Jobe Ireland etc.

Better yet spend send some money FR's way to give you some help to fix the drainage at Arthur Edden

[NewFM 2014]

Your missing the point, the points system ensured that clubs had to buy the right players, which Lambton did. Every one had the same points to play with. Other clubs bought players but Lambton did the best job of that. They still had to go out and win games though, and they did that also, they ran third in the competition. They then had a good finals series and won the Grand Final. The financial aspect of it is irrelevant as it's an open market, same as the housing market, that's why there are big houses and little houses, don't whinge save your money up. Miracles do happen all you need is some smart advice,

That is a very well written post and very accurate .

[The Magician]

I wouldn't think Magic are worried.

Todays Herald and Virgili has confirmed the loss of Matt Paul to Adamstown and Bowling to retirement but has countered that by confirming Kale Finlayson and Dino Faj are going there.

I assume with Dino going Dennis is short odds to join so may be they won't have to waste Johnny Griff at RB next season.



Thomas to say Jaffas haven't bought the title is pushing the limits of belief. The 11 blokes who took the park on Sunday how many are Jaffas juniors and how many were playing for them in the NEW FM??

Needless to say the answers ain't large.

Good luck to them though. Their club is going places and doing a good job. Hopefully the next few years will see them strengthen and develop juniors and build a successful club from within rather than buying in Kale Johnny Maj Palozzi Faj Jobe Ireland etc.

Better yet spend send some money FR's way to give you some help to fix the drainage at Arthur Edden

Re-draining of Magic Park starts Monday.

[MFKS]

Re-draining of Magic Park starts Monday.

How long is it out of action for whilst done and what works you actually doing??

[The Magician]

Starting from scratch i heard, cut through the existing system... Pipes every 2 metres.

W-League draw has been favourable shouldn't impact on scheduled fixtures.

[ForeverRed]

Finally you have listened to me😀😀😀

[judge]

Totally agree with you there Acolyte. Know of one player who was offered considerably more to go to another club but chose Jaffas for the quality of players there. No one whinged about the Jets Youth winning the minor premiership when they have the pick of the best young talent from this area and those that come from Sydney, Qld etc. At the end of the day players will go where there happiest, there are many reasons ( facilities, quality team mates, well run club, travel ), it's not just about money. The clubs still have to operate under the points system. Some just do it better than others.
Your missing the point, the points system ensured that clubs had to buy the right players, which Lambton did. Every one had the same points to play with. Other clubs bought players but Lambton did the best job of that. They still had to go out and win games though, and they did that also, they ran third in the competition. They then had a good finals series and won the Grand Final. The financial aspect of it is irrelevant as it's an open market, same as the housing market, that's why there are big houses and little houses, don't whinge save your money up. Miracles do happen all you need is some smart advice,

[MFKS]

Finally you have listened to me������

The professor has spoken

[Thomas477]

Thomas to say Jaffas haven't bought the title is pushing the limits of belief. The 11 blokes who took the park on Sunday how many are Jaffas juniors and how many were playing for them in the NEW FM??

Needless to say the answers ain't large.

Good luck to them though. Their club is going places and doing a good job. Hopefully the next few years will see them strengthen and develop juniors and build a successful club from within rather than buying in Kale Johnny Maj Palozzi Faj Jobe Ireland etc.

Better yet spend send some money FR's way to give you some help to fix the drainage at Arthur Edden

To be fair, the Jaffas have a fairly large juniors base, the only issue has been the BS between the juniors and seniors (which is a load of crap IMO)

[MFKS]

To be fair, the Jaffas have a fairly large juniors base, the only issue has been the BS between the juniors and seniors (which is a load of crap IMO)

Your not wrong they have plenty of juniors.

Be good if they actually work at mending their issues so these juniors actually play NPL at the club one day

[Thomas477]

Your not wrong they have plenty of juniors.

Be good if they actually work at mending their issues so these juniors actually play NPL at the club one day

Well as someone involved with the club, I agree, and we are trying to mend those Bridges. Over the past 2 seasons the bridges have been starting to mend, hopefully in the next 5-10 years we'll see the 2 parts come back together,

[The Acolyte]

Do Maitland get extra points to play with to enable them to build a competitive side for their promotion to the NPL?.

[mervan]

Eventually the points system will force clubs to produce from within and who will then stay This still won't prevent " marque" players like maj who has played for 5 clubs in 10 years or swancott.

[Thomas477]

Do Maitland get extra points to play with to enable them to build a competitive side for their promotion to the NPL?.

All new teams get +25 points for the first year that they're in the NPL.

[The Acolyte]

So that equates to one marquee player, any mistakes will have to be little ones. Promotion and relegation is a good system, but you've got to feel for Lake Macquarie a few near misses sealed their fate. I hope they can get their problems sorted out, starting with the right coaching appointment, the competition needs a team representing that area. When you consider that you didn't have to change much to see Magic finish in that position which, would have been seen as a disaster, and rightly so, losing Lakes from the competition was also a disaster. I hope to see them back soon , we need 'em.

[MFKS]

So that equates to one marquee player, any mistakes will have to be little ones. Promotion and relegation is a good system, but you've got to feel for Lake Macquarie a few near misses sealed their fate. I hope they can get their problems sorted out, starting with the right coaching appointment, the competition needs a team representing that area. When you consider that you didn't have to change much to see Magic finish in that position which, would have been seen as a disaster, and rightly so, losing Lakes from the competition was also a disaster. I hope to see them back soon , we need 'em.

Don't forget they are allowed their other 200 odd points also. The opportunity to buy some proven talent is still available. You just can't go crazy like in the past.

Interesting thing to note that the team that had the least points WESTON lost the GF and the team that had the most JAFFAS won the GF.

Needless to say then the success can be achieved under the points system by going local and is not a valid excuse at all for clubs to bemoan about

[MFKS]

Eventually the points system will force clubs to produce from within and who will then stay This still won't prevent " marque" players like maj who has played for 5 clubs in 10 years or swancott.
Never will stop the top players shopping themselves around.

Will though stop the lesser players playing for multiple clubs in their careers though. Clubs can justify the points for getting a quality player like Maj. They will struggle to justify the points for some bloke who is just a first grader and the club could sign 20 others of similar calibre

In one regard it will hopefully reign wages in as the demand for players to change clubs from clubs wanting to buy will be reduced and much more selective so the blokes not lucky enough to be in high demand will have to take what offers they can from the existing club

[NewFM 2014]

[QUOTE=The Acolyte;92311]So that equates to one marquee player, any mistakes will have to be little ones. Promotion and relegation is a good system, but you've got to feel for Lake Macquarie a few near misses sealed their fate. I hope they can get their problems sorted out, starting with the right coaching appointment, the competition needs a team representing that area. When you consider that you didn't have to change much to see Magic finish in that position which, would have been seen as a disaster, and rightly so, losing Lakes from the competition was also a disaster. I hope to see them back soon , we need 'em.[/QUOTE

Good club Lakes are but no gaurantee of getting straight back up . Just look at Valo this year .

[The Acolyte]

Don't forget they are allowed their other 200 odd points also. The opportunity to buy some proven talent is still available. You just can't go crazy like in the past.

Interesting thing to note that the team that had the least points WESTON lost the GF and the team that had the most JAFFAS won the GF.

Needless to say then the success can be achieved under the points system by going local and is not a valid excuse at all for clubs to bemoan about

I don't think that the squad was the problem at Weston as they played for the minor premiership in the last comp. match. I managed to lose a GF with an undefeated side, but there was never any doubt who was the best side in the competition that year, that's the nature of competition any one can be beaten. What I find disappointing is that kick and chase with your head down was good enough to win the minor premiership. Stubbins is awake to the problem as he has brought South Americans in to fill the void, maybe the jets will play a better style of football that the NPL coaches can pick up on, instead of waiting for Brisbane and now Adelaide to show up for a lesson on how the game should be played

[MFKS]

I don't think that the squad was the problem at Weston as they played for the minor premiership in the last comp. match. I managed to lose a GF with an undefeated side, but there was never any doubt who was the best side in the competition that year, that's the nature of competition any one can be beaten. What I find disappointing is that kick and chase with your head down was good enough to win the minor premiership. Stubbins is awake to the problem as he has brought South Americans in to fill the void, maybe the jets will play a better style of football that the NPL coaches can pick up on, instead of waiting for Brisbane and now Adelaide to show up for a lesson on how the game should be played
Kick and Chase won the Minor Premiership??

FFS Your having a laugh now

The Jets football isn't what I would call kick and chase football. It ain't what anyone other than you would call kick and chase football.

5000 passes to go nowhere isn't kick and chase football.

I would even go as far in one regard the muppet is right with his vision. His implementation is severely lacking and there are many levels he is missing to make this style work

I would also suggest one of the kick and chase styles big benefits is the speed of ball movement being quick
The EJ program have a major issue with ball movement speed period and I would describe their speed as slow

[Premy]

I don't think that the squad was the problem at Weston as they played for the minor premiership in the last comp. match. I managed to lose a GF with an undefeated side, but there was never any doubt who was the best side in the competition that year, that's the nature of competition any one can be beaten. What I find disappointing is that kick and chase with your head down was good enough to win the minor premiership. Stubbins is awake to the problem as he has brought South Americans in to fill the void, maybe the jets will play a better style of football that the NPL coaches can pick up on, instead of waiting for Brisbane and now Adelaide to show up for a lesson on how the game should be played
:roflz: How the game should be play? I could imagine that would be hard to say whilst having Craig Forster c*#k in your mouth.
I always thought the game was played so 2 teams compete against each other and the one who store's more goal is the winner, can someone tell me when the rules changed to the winner being how they played the game.

[The Acolyte]

:roflz: How the game should be play? I could imagine that would be hard to say whilst having Craig Forster c*#k in your mouth.
I always thought the game was played so 2 teams compete against each other and the one who store's more goal is the winner, can someone tell me when the rules changed to the winner being how they played the game.

You really should write your own posts and not leave it to a pre schooler to do it for you. And just because Craig Foster doesn't like your ugly head there's no need for your foul mouthed little rat to make accusations. If I got the wrong impression from your post I apologize for my response, the grammatical errors and spelling mistake made your post somewhat cryptic, and tell the little rat to learn to spell.

[Bremsstrahlung]

:roflz: How the game should be play? I could imagine that would be hard to say whilst having Craig Forster c*#k in your mouth.
I always thought the game was played so 2 teams compete against each other and the one who store's more goal is the winner, can someone tell me when the rules changed to the winner being how they played the game.

If you head to the NPL Youth thread, there's an interesting debate how the undefeated Olympic team isn't the best team because of how they played. Apparently they played a different style to the other teams, when they should've played the same way as the other teams and not played to their strengths. The other teams were better because they played more attractive football.
So when you find out about the rule change, I'd also be interested to know...

[The Acolyte]

If you head to the NPL Youth thread, there's an interesting debate how the undefeated Olympic team isn't the best team because of how they played. Apparently they played a different style to the other teams, when they should've played the same way as the other teams and not played to their strengths. The other teams were better because they played more attractive football.
So when you find out about the rule change, I'd also be interested to know...

There's an undefeated 3rd grade side playing next week , I can arrange a bus so you and your mates can have a great day at the football. If you give me the numbers interested I will also provide carers , 1 carer to 2 wombats, they'll wipe the dribble off your shirts and make sure you take your medication. As an added bonus I won't be there as Barcelona are playing at the same time, and although they get beat now and then I'll be watching them.

And there has been no rule change as far as I'm aware. A wombat is still referred to as a wombat.

[Premy]

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=celtic+v+barca+meme&client=ms-android-telstra-au&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JFYaVIjQJ9aVuAT2xIGQAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=360&bih=592#facrc=_&imgrc=_yGCeYZZUVOrUM%253A%3B9iw_-puCvDTvYM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.imgur.com%252FaYF Rj.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.reddit.com%252Fr%2 52Fsports%252Fcomments%252F27aaac%252Fof_americas_ big_4_sports_which_do_you_think%252F%3B600%3B450

[mervan]

Never will stop the top players shopping themselves around.

Will though stop the lesser players playing for multiple clubs in their careers though. Clubs can justify the points for getting a quality player like Maj. They will struggle to justify the points for some bloke who is just a first grader and the club could sign 20 others of similar calibre

In one regard it will hopefully reign wages in as the demand for players to change clubs from clubs wanting to buy will be reduced and much more selective so the blokes not lucky enough to be in high demand will have to take what offers they can from the existing club
Yes very good point. Clubs wage bill will come down and hopefully more money to update and maintain facilities.

[The Magician]

Yes very good point. Clubs wage bill will come down and hopefully more money to update and maintain facilities.

Doubt it very much... nothing goes down in price in this society.... 'Established' first graders wages will continue to rise incrementally each year, clubs will put a heavy price on experience as other clubs try to entice more experience to join and will have a flow on effect...

Lets be honest here... this NPL structure, PPS, etc will not stop exorbitant player wages, and clubs will not risk introducing more than 1 or 2 so called "development/ club developed" players into the first grade starting line up each year, unless they have already had a taste of first grade somewhere else, the player pool is not as deep as everyone thinks... we already see now that players 18-20yo leaving the E Jets are commanding $300+ per week and double that at certain clubs. If something is in DEMAND people will pay, and pay handsomely, even loyalty has its price.

If clubs are averaging $50-60K now per season Expect a $5K increase each year from now (inception of NPL) until the issue comes to a head and clubs start getting into serious financial ruin... so what money is left for developing facilities? hahahahaha

Lets say Jaffas (for example) average $400 per week per player for their starting 11... and it is well know that certain players in the Jaffas starting line up 2014 get much more than that so you will still have a few players at $200pw in the squad... but at $400pw average for the starting 11, 21 games per season, that over $90K... average $300 per week thats $69K... not many established players are going to change clubs for under $300pw, so if they aint going to change for that much they'd expect to stay for that much... and clubs will have more pressure to push established players out to cater for youth (whole point of PPS) but competition between clubs for these "fringe" players will and is becoming more intense... and more and more money will be thrown at these players as coaches 'guarantee' them first grade... I don't know what the answer is.

There is a strong rumour that 50K has been allocated to the coaches of Maitland to buy 6 players to ensure they dont get relegated first year up? And we expect bonus's will go down... laughable.

It seems when it comes to the NPL and the restructure of the competition with the increased expectation of professionalism and administration, player bonus's have followed suit and will continue too long into the future. As we pay our $8 every week we expect to go to games to watch quality football involving quality players, not donkey kids running around because some PPS said they have too, there is a lot of pressure on coaches and clubs to deliver a quality product (and not get relegated).

[Premy]

Doubt it very much... nothing goes down in price in this society.... 'Established' first graders wages will continue to rise incrementally each year, clubs will put a heavy price on experience as other clubs try to entice more experience to join and will have a flow on effect...

Lets be honest here... this NPL structure, PPS, etc will not stop exorbitant player wages, and clubs will not risk introducing more than 1 or 2 so called "development/ club developed" players into the first grade starting line up each year, unless they have already had a taste of first grade somewhere else, the player pool is not as deep as everyone thinks... we already see now that players 18-20yo leaving the E Jets are commanding $300+ per week and double that at certain clubs. If something is in DEMAND people will pay, and pay handsomely, even loyalty has its price.

If clubs are averaging $50-60K now per season Expect a $5K increase each year from now (inception of NPL) until the issue comes to a head and clubs start getting into serious financial ruin... so what money is left for developing facilities? hahahahaha

Lets say Jaffas (for example) average $400 per week per player for their starting 11... and it is well know that certain players in the Jaffas starting line up 2014 get much more than that so you will still have a few players at $200pw in the squad... but at $400pw average for the starting 11, 21 games per season, that over $90K... average $300 per week thats $69K... not many established players are going to change clubs for under $300pw, so if they aint going to change for that much they'd expect to stay for that much... and clubs will have more pressure to push established players out to cater for youth (whole point of PPS) but competition between clubs for these "fringe" players will and is becoming more intense... and more and more money will be thrown at these players as coaches 'guarantee' them first grade... I don't know what the answer is.

There is a strong rumour that 50K has been allocated to the coaches of Maitland to buy 6 players to ensure they dont get relegated first year up? And we expect bonus's will go down... laughable.

It seems when it comes to the NPL and the restructure of the competition with the increased expectation of professionalism and administration, player bonus's have followed suit and will continue too long into the future. As we pay our $8 every week we expect to go to games to watch quality football involving quality players, not donkey kids running around because some PPS said they have too, there is a lot of pressure on coaches and clubs to deliver a quality product (and not get relegated).
Maybe a Salary Cap along with the PPS is the answer.

[mervan]

Doubt it very much... nothing goes down in price in this society.... 'Established' first graders wages will continue to rise incrementally each year, clubs will put a heavy price on experience as other clubs try to entice more experience to join and will have a flow on effect...

Lets be honest here... this NPL structure, PPS, etc will not stop exorbitant player wages, and clubs will not risk introducing more than 1 or 2 so called "development/ club developed" players into the first grade starting line up each year, unless they have already had a taste of first grade somewhere else, the player pool is not as deep as everyone thinks... we already see now that players 18-20yo leaving the E Jets are commanding $300+ per week and double that at certain clubs. If something is in DEMAND people will pay, and pay handsomely, even loyalty has its price.

If clubs are averaging $50-60K now per season Expect a $5K increase each year from now (inception of NPL) until the issue comes to a head and clubs start getting into serious financial ruin... so what money is left for developing facilities? hahahahaha

Lets say Jaffas (for example) average $400 per week per player for their starting 11... and it is well know that certain players in the Jaffas starting line up 2014 get much more than that so you will still have a few players at $200pw in the squad... but at $400pw average for the starting 11, 21 games per season, that over $90K... average $300 per week thats $69K... not many established players are going to change clubs for under $300pw, so if they aint going to change for that much they'd expect to stay for that much... and clubs will have more pressure to push established players out to cater for youth (whole point of PPS) but competition between clubs for these "fringe" players will and is becoming more intense... and more and more money will be thrown at these players as coaches 'guarantee' them first grade... I don't know what the answer is.

There is a strong rumour that 50K has been allocated to the coaches of Maitland to buy 6 players to ensure they dont get relegated first year up? And we expect bonus's will go down... laughable.

It seems when it comes to the NPL and the restructure of the competition with the increased expectation of professionalism and administration, player bonus's have followed suit and will continue too long into the future. As we pay our $8 every week we expect to go to games to watch quality football involving quality players, not donkey kids running around because some PPS said they have too, there is a lot of pressure on coaches and clubs to deliver a quality product (and not get relegated).

Do you believe then that Kale and Dino have left for more money?

[The Magician]

Do you believe then that Kale and Dino have left for more money?

I believe they aint getting less than the Magic players they are replacing, doesn't matter what they were paid only what they will be paid.

[mervan]

I believe they aint getting less than the Magic players they are replacing, doesn't matter what they were paid only what they will be paid.
Sounds like your talking in riddles.

Who are they replacing.

[ForeverRed]

Do you believe then that Kale and Dino have left for more money?
This will be Dino faj fourth club in 4 years, I think this answers your question

[MFKS]

Doubt it very much... nothing goes down in price in this society.... 'Established' first graders wages will continue to rise incrementally each year, clubs will put a heavy price on experience as other clubs try to entice more experience to join and will have a flow on effect...

Lets be honest here... this NPL structure, PPS, etc will not stop exorbitant player wages, and clubs will not risk introducing more than 1 or 2 so called "development/ club developed" players into the first grade starting line up each year, unless they have already had a taste of first grade somewhere else, the player pool is not as deep as everyone thinks... we already see now that players 18-20yo leaving the E Jets are commanding $300+ per week and double that at certain clubs. If something is in DEMAND people will pay, and pay handsomely, even loyalty has its price.

If clubs are averaging $50-60K now per season Expect a $5K increase each year from now (inception of NPL) until the issue comes to a head and clubs start getting into serious financial ruin... so what money is left for developing facilities? hahahahaha

Lets say Jaffas (for example) average $400 per week per player for their starting 11... and it is well know that certain players in the Jaffas starting line up 2014 get much more than that so you will still have a few players at $200pw in the squad... but at $400pw average for the starting 11, 21 games per season, that over $90K... average $300 per week thats $69K... not many established players are going to change clubs for under $300pw, so if they aint going to change for that much they'd expect to stay for that much... and clubs will have more pressure to push established players out to cater for youth (whole point of PPS) but competition between clubs for these "fringe" players will and is becoming more intense... and more and more money will be thrown at these players as coaches 'guarantee' them first grade... I don't know what the answer is.

There is a strong rumour that 50K has been allocated to the coaches of Maitland to buy 6 players to ensure they dont get relegated first year up? And we expect bonus's will go down... laughable.

It seems when it comes to the NPL and the restructure of the competition with the increased expectation of professionalism and administration, player bonus's have followed suit and will continue too long into the future. As we pay our $8 every week we expect to go to games to watch quality football involving quality players, not donkey kids running around because some PPS said they have too, there is a lot of pressure on coaches and clubs to deliver a quality product (and not get relegated).

I think you will find the likes of Maj Haynes Evans etc will be the big winners from the system. They have the ability and clubs will pay whatever they have to to get them. They have the bargaining power and the clubs don't in this instance

I do not think you will find the lesser in demand players are going have the same luxury.
Clubs have the bargaining power there particularly when the player has little interest from elsewhere in the NPL what are there choices?? Stay with the existing club and take whatever is offered or go to New FM ZPL and get paid less anyway. They don't take it and they can then be replaced anyway from someone in a desperate position anyway and once again wages are saved

Simple supply and demand. When the demand isn't there the club can reign the wages in to sign a player.



The other thing you neglect to acknowledge is the clubs have the ability to reign the wages in if they desire by focusing on their youth going forward.

A Club will sooner or later cotton onto this concept and when they do and achieve success and a strong club without paying the huge $$$ others will increase their efforts to move towards this model


I still find it bizarre that people willingly accept the type of money wasted in football in this country at this level. 60k-90k per club could see some great facilities better standards with coaching/training etc if the money was actually going to where it should be and not to line blokes pockets for playing in a amateur level comp on the weekend.

Absolutely ridiculous that people willingly accept this as normal from clubs to spend this in the pursuit of winning a ****ing trophy that quite frankly no **** outside of Newy football community gives a flying **** about

[The Magician]

This will be Dino faj fourth club in 4 years, I think this answers your question

I think its well known that players dont come to Magic for the money, they dont seem to win the cash based player tug of wars... im sure Chilli n Bobby present a pretty compelling quality footballing environment motivation to players, they always seem to draw in the top players and develop a very tight group that once in find it very hard to leave.

[ForeverRed]

I think its well known that players dont come to Magic for the money, they dont seem to win the cash based player tug of wars... im sure Chilli n Bobby present a pretty compelling quality footballing environment motivation to players, they always seem to draw in the top players and develop a very tight group that once in find it very hard to leave.
Dillusional

[plague]

I still find it bizarre that people willingly accept the type of money wasted in football in this country at this level. 60k-90k per club could see some great facilities better standards with coaching/training etc if the money was actually going to where it should be and not to line blokes pockets for playing in a amateur level comp on the weekend.

Absolutely ridiculous that people willingly accept this as normal from clubs to spend this in the pursuit of winning a ****ing trophy that quite frankly no **** outside of Newy football community gives a flying **** about

So at the start of your argument you explained it away as simple supply and demand but then this comment is pretty much you saying you can't believe this kind of simple supply and demand goes on.
Are you some sort of socialist?

And where's the 'waste'?
People getting paid to provide a service? That's kind of how a society works. If clubs could get that same service for less they probably would.
I sure as shit don't work for free. Don't know many that do. Just cause you don't see park footy as 'work' don't mean it ain't.
People get paid to write songs, paint pictures and root hot chicks on camera.

It's a pretty cool world out there Member. Embrace it.

[Thomas477]

]You really should write your own posts and not leave it to a pre schooler to do it for you.[/B]

This was left to go through to the keeper, but after your first post that failed to have any full stops, this is laughable.

[MFKS]

I think its well known that players dont come to Magic for the money, they dont seem to win the cash based player tug of wars... im sure Chilli n Bobby present a pretty compelling quality footballing environment motivation to players, they always seem to draw in the top players and develop a very tight group that once in find it very hard to leave.:bs:

Where did you come again this season??

Hardly what you would call a quality compelling football environment when quality young blokes are leaving the Minor Premiers and GF Winners in a hurry to sign for a side that nearly got relegated.

Must be the money then:thumbsup:

[MFKS]

So at the start of your argument you explained it away as simple supply and demand but then this comment is pretty much you saying you can't believe this kind of simple supply and demand goes on.
Are you some sort of socialist?

And where's the 'waste'?
People getting paid to provide a service? That's kind of how a society works. If clubs could get that same service for less they probably would.
I sure as shit don't work for free. Don't know many that do. Just cause you don't see park footy as 'work' don't mean it ain't.
People get paid to write songs, paint pictures and root hot chicks on camera.

It's a pretty cool world out there Member. Embrace it.

Nice thesis Plague.

Should post that somewhere where more people can read it. Some gems in there



I find it ironic that as we struggle as a football nation people say there is not enough money to develop the quality players we need to compete with the big boys of the World Game.

Yet we pay blokes playing at this level the money we do yet then spend **** all on coaching/facilities etc.

Reality is there is shitloads of money in the game in this country. It just ain't going to the areas it actually should

Bet you blokes playing in quality football nations are not getting paid anywhere near the money we pay out to blokes who play on the weekend and train a few nights a week to play in the 6th strongest comp in the country

[The Magician]

:bs:

Where did you come again this season??

Hardly what you would call a quality compelling football environment when quality young blokes are leaving the Minor Premiers and GF Winners in a hurry to sign for a side that nearly got relegated.

Must be the money then:thumbsup:

Read my statement again... read yours... and i will be awaiting your apology.

[plague]

Nice thesis Plague.

Should post that somewhere where more people can read it. Some gems in there


I don't need a big audience mate. As long as you read it my work here is done.

[plague]

I find it ironic that as we struggle as a football nation people say there is not enough money to develop the quality players we need to compete with the big boys of the World Game.

Yet we pay blokes playing at this level the money we do yet then spend **** all on coaching/facilities etc.

Reality is there is shitloads of money in the game in this country. It just ain't going to the areas it actually should


To be fair though, it shouldn't be up to Magic/Olympic/Sth Cardiff ('sup FR) to change the landscape.
Change starts at the top and should be mandated down the line.
FFA seem to be starting that but even the recent best example (Germany) with all their resources and infrastructure took 14 years of a nationwide effort to go from bottom to top.

[The Acolyte]

This was left to go through to the keeper, but after your first post that failed to have any full stops, this is laughable.

.............................., there you are if, I owe you any more let me know and I'll add them. Now I've got to sweep up all the sesame seeds I spilled on the kitchen floor.....................

[Bremsstrahlung]

To be fair though, it shouldn't be up to Magic/Olympic/Sth Cardiff ('sup FR) to change the landscape.
Change starts at the top and should be mandated down the line.
FFA seem to be starting that but even the recent best example (Germany) with all their resources and infrastructure took 14 years of a nationwide effort to go from bottom to top.

I agree. To be fair, the money should be invested in improving grassroots/skill aquisition in the earlier years. Increasing participation and making the games fun. Those stupid SSG goals are a joke. Put in proper metal/PVC goals with a goalie. Keeps the small sided principles but you need to keep it fun to keep kids interested.
I spoke to a kid yesterday who played soccer and asked him some questions and he was a little disinterested with, but super excited to play on a "big field" with "real goals".

Then I feel like it is up to the development teams EJ and previously Mac, Newcastle and Hunter Valley to select gifted and talented players and develop them further.

I think we aren't too far off having the foundations sorted.
SSG > Development Teams > Emerging jets or NPL Youth > NYL Youth or NPL > a league.

To be fair to NPL teams, I don't really know of anybody to get called up to Jets or another A league team from playing NPL with no exposure to these development teams.

They are meant to have the best 20 odd kids of each age in their teams.

Focus on our elite pathway players first, and once we have that sorted address the other issues.

[ForeverRed]

With all coaches now required to have the correct coaching certificates etc etc and all clubs fielding NPL youth teams then why is the EJ programme required , just a thought

[MFKS]

With all coaches now required to have the correct coaching certificates etc etc and all clubs fielding NPL youth teams then why is the EJ programme required , just a thought
FR I know the answer to this


To benefit the Jets

[Bremsstrahlung]

With all coaches now required to have the correct coaching certificates etc etc and all clubs fielding NPL youth teams then why is the EJ programme required , just a thought

Good point.
Personally, I don't mind the emerging jets program so much. Gives the kids something to aim for.
I'm not sure how it really works with selections etc. but They should hold trials each year, or scout out better players from other teams and utilise it as a representative team where npl youth players from clubs can go over summer, train with the a league teams and develop, maybe play some Sydney youth teams, then head back to their npl clubs for season proper.

[MFKS]

Good point.
Personally, I don't mind the emerging jets program so much. Gives the kids something to aim for.
I'm not sure how it really works with selections etc. but They should hold trials each year, or scout out better players from other teams and utilise it as a representative team where npl youth players from clubs can go over summer, train with the a league teams and develop, maybe play some Sydney youth teams, then head back to their npl clubs for season proper.


Yes the EJ does hold trials already. The trial/scouting process needs severely looking at as it ain't best practice etc but that is another ****ing matter for them to resolve


As for keeping kids at the NPL clubs >>

Isn't the idea that the Jets have some control/ownership of how the kids are developed that will hopefully one day come through into the HAL to represent us fans as opposed to leaving it up to the local clubs to do like in the last 100 ****ing years with pretty average results??

The same clubs whose priorities are completely different and revolve around paying players to win a trophy staying in the top flight etc etc and whose priorities are nowhere near developing the best kids they possibly can to come out of this region to represent Australia NT play professionally in Australia play professionally overseas etc

[Why Blue]

With all coaches now required to have the correct coaching certificates etc etc and all clubs fielding NPL youth teams then why is the EJ programme required , just a thought

Finally...............................some sense........................................

[MFKS]

Finally...............................some sense........................................

How is is it sense??

The results from the NPL indicate the EJ in 2-3 years are achieving a lot more than these NPL clubs have in 100 plus.

Regardless of the reforms going on with NPL clubs they are still behind what the EJ are actually doing NOW and will always be behind assuming in time more money is actually sunk into the EJ program when the HAL clubs get more coin in as the game grows

[Why Blue]

[QUOTE=MFKS;92424]How is is it sense??

The results from the NPL indicate the EJ in 2-3 years are achieving a lot more than these NPL clubs have in 100 plus.

Regardless of the reforms going on with NPL clubs they are still behind what the EJ are actually doing NOW and will always be behind assuming in time more money is actually sunk into the EJ program when the HAL clubs get more coin in as the game grows[/QUOTE

we have been over this before...........what about rugby league...........no pulling out "talented" kids there. They all play club to 16's (i think) with development squads picked to train etc BUT do not take them away from their clubs. Instead NRL clubs get in and support local clubs, feeder clubs. This seems to work very well. Knights for example seem to have produced many more juniors thru than Jets last few years ????

And thats what we need to do.............support the clubs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EJ program is questionable at best

[ForeverRed]

How is is it sense??

The results from the NPL indicate the EJ in 2-3 years are achieving a lot more than these NPL clubs have in 100 plus.

Regardless of the reforms going on with NPL clubs they are still behind what the EJ are actually doing NOW and will always be behind assuming in time more money is actually sunk into the EJ program when the HAL clubs get more coin in as the game grows

you need to remember that nnswf control the EJ programme and womans jets with money I suggest comes from many areas including NPL clubs, my point is clubs not only pay for their own NPL youth but but also part of the EJ programme, and dont start me on the amount nnswf spent bringing out imports this year for W jets

[plague]

we have been over this before...........what about rugby league...........no pulling out "talented" kids there. They all play club to 16's (i think) with development squads picked to train etc BUT do not take them away from their clubs. Instead NRL clubs get in and support local clubs, feeder clubs. This seems to work very well. Knights for example seem to have produced many more juniors thru than Jets last few years ????


Harold Matthews (RL rep comp for U/16's) uses best of those age kids and play separately from normal clubs from February/May.
Kids can go back and play club footy in local comp after that but the best usually don't (under scholarships $$ from NRL clubs).

Difficult to compare as RL in Oz is the worlds elite comp but def wouldn't say Knights support local clubs/juniors (except the coin that Tinks had to throw in with a gun to his head as part of ownership deal).

[Bremsstrahlung]

How is is it sense??

The results from the NPL indicate the EJ in 2-3 years are achieving a lot more than these NPL clubs have in 100 plus.

Regardless of the reforms going on with NPL clubs they are still behind what the EJ are actually doing NOW and will always be behind assuming in time more money is actually sunk into the EJ program when the HAL clubs get more coin in as the game grows

What results are you referring to? Their NPL result or their development etc?

[MFKS]

What results are you referring to? Their NPL result or their development etc?

Both fronts.

The kids coming out the EJ and back into the NPL setup are better than what they would have been if they just stayed the last few years with NPL sides.

Could argue forever and a day that they need to actually start getting them into the HAL side but reality is that will always take time to get the processes right. Won't really see the best they can do until the kids have actually come through from the U10's right through to First grade

I am of the opinion that they are a bit behind on this but that's another argument

Results wise the EJ are doing quite well Minor Premiers in First and U19s 2nd regular season in U22's 1 GF win in the 19's a GF loss in the 22's and making the final in First Grade.

Sure you can argue there is room for improvement but results wise still a pretty solid effort considering all the kids are playing up against older bigger opponents

Room for improvement no doubt and many issues still to resolve. The thing though is they are still improving each year

[italian stallion]

there are plenty of talented players out there that could improve alot if they trained 4 times a week.also training year round helps the jets

[Thomas477]

there are plenty of talented players out there that could improve alot if they trained 4 times a week.also training year round helps the jets

Didn't each club this year, bar potentially South Cardiff and Olympic (who both have a wicket in their grounds), have their own ground which they can use year round? Maybe the question should be asked why aren't the juniors, at least training year round?

[Bremsstrahlung]

Didn't each club this year, bar potentially South Cardiff and Olympic (who both have a wicket in their grounds), have their own ground which they can use year round? Maybe the question should be asked why aren't the juniors, at least training year round?

I think most clubs are getting there.
There are some extenuating circumstances, e.g other sports/interests that come to be over summer.
Players, no matter how old, need some kind of break to recharge and reignite interest/motivation. Plus the climate here makes life a little difficult to be training in 40 degree heat.

Anyway, the season just finished for NPL/NPL Youth. Trials will be held and teams finalised over October. November off. Some clubs do a Pre-Christmas training, with some light cardio and just small sided games and team building things. And all clubs kick off pre-season in January. So there aren't too many months unused. Maybe 3 at absolute maximum.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Both fronts.

The kids coming out the EJ and back into the NPL setup are better than what they would have been if they just stayed the last few years with NPL sides.

True. But if we are talking First Grade/U20s, they have a full season of A-League training and a season of playing against the Countries best youth players.

Could argue forever and a day that they need to actually start getting them into the HAL side but reality is that will always take time to get the processes right. Won't really see the best they can do until the kids have actually come through from the U10's right through to First grade

Agree, I would much rather we give somebody like Kale a run with the first team, than get some guy from Sydney or NQ Fury etc. The system is "working" when players are being promoted throughout the ranks.


Results wise the EJ are doing quite well Minor Premiers in First and U19s 2nd regular season in U22's 1 GF win in the 19's a GF loss in the 22's and making the final in First Grade.

Sure you can argue there is room for improvement but results wise still a pretty solid effort considering all the kids are playing up against older bigger opponents

I don't agree with this as a yard stick to measure how good they are/how successful the program is. These are the region's handpicked "best" players, i'd damn well hope they would beat everyone. If they aren't beating everyone, it tells me they have the wrong players in my opinion.
Example: When they used to play the NNSW Select Team vs Jets games. NNSW Youth ALWAYS beat the Jets Youth and by considerable margins. They need to remove the politics from selections.

Room for improvement no doubt and many issues still to resolve. The thing though is they are still improving each year


While there is relegation, the priority for clubs is to avoid relegation. Understandably so. But we have Lakes this year, who apparently (i'm not sure of the details, but a few people here probably are) put a lot of time/money/effort into their NPL Youth teams and development programs. This is pretty much all for nothing as they are relegated now and don't need these teams/will be unable to retain their players.

[MFKS]

@ Bremsstrahlung as far as the politics is right you are bang on. Far too many have got in based on who dad is and other non important shit. The selection processes are flawed and need to be worked on. No dispute there. Many will say the exact same thing. There are kids playing at NPL clubs who should DEFO be in the system.

As for results well you have to take into account a couple of factors. The Technical Overlords version of Tikka Takka isn't exactly defensively solid. The way it is played is always gonna concede goals. Have to win by outscoring the opponent (I know that is an oxymoron but the EJ sides tend to win well rather than grind out narrow wins as when it is close they tend to lose)

Add in the fact that you have a lot of young kids at various levels of physical maturity playing against opponents who are more physically advanced is a big plus for the NPL sides.

As for the EJ sides beating everyone. Well that isn't exactly a desirable outcome for anyone at all.

None of the NPL sides want to be playing for 2nd place before a ball is kicked as it would turn the entire comp into a farce

As for the EJ kids need to actually have to win a battle to succeed.
All the trophies they did win in the NPL this season they actually did manage to achieve by earning them through getting through some battles rather than being the superior side
Not having to battle hard for success is only setting them up for failure down the line in their battles

[Imyourhero]

I think we can all give props to the EH teams they did really well. There are some good young blokes out there including young fellas not in the EJ system. I don't think we lack the skilled young kids in our area, I think as we've identified it comes down to how kids are being selected, atop the usual processes I'd love to see younger players from outside the EJ who show skill and promise being scouted and at least given a taste of training with the program.

[MFKS]

I think we can all give props to the EH teams they did really well. There are some good young blokes out there including young fellas not in the EJ system. I don't think we lack the skilled young kids in our area, I think as we've identified it comes down to how kids are being selected, atop the usual processes I'd love to see younger players from outside the EJ who show skill and promise being scouted and at least given a taste of training with the program.

I am not really certain as to what this achieves?? The goal should be really to have the EJ program as your elite program and kids have to aspire to be part of it and to do that they have to earn it.
Having them train with the EJ is defeating the purpose there.

Maybe what would be better would be the EJ/NNSW to increase their efforts at earlier ages and work on providing better skill sets to the kids across the board by actually having them train with them



The issue also lies with the Jets actually getting off their arses and scouting the NPL properly to identify the kids that need to be involved in the EJ much better than they currently do.

Other issues you have is kids are dropping out for whatever reasons to play NPL for other clubs. This needs addressing big time.

Some of them from lack of opportunities at the EJ, some from not liking the environment the EJ provides others the money factor of getting paid by NPL sides etc

[Imyourhero]

That's what I guess I was trying to get at, there are some promising kids in the NPL right now that would individually be superior to blokes of same age apart of the EJ system. Along with the general improvement of training etc to produce more skilled youngster needs to come the progression of correctly scouting youngsters, removing political influence and retaining the promising ones in the system despite outside influence to move away.
Australia could have the next Messi every generation, but if he slips through due the above then what's the point.

[MFKS]

That's what I guess I was trying to get at, there are some promising kids in the NPL right now that would individually be superior to blokes of same age apart of the EJ system. Along with the general improvement of training etc to produce more skilled youngster needs to come the progression of correctly scouting youngsters, removing political influence and retaining the promising ones in the system despite outside influence to move away.
Australia could have the next Messi every generation, but if he slips through due the above then what's the point.

The thing is the EJ are more or less on the right track with the players they have. They ain't perfect yes they are missing some and their are a few in the set up you would be right to query as to how/why they are there and the exceptions outside the set up are probably still too large but by and large they do have the bulk of the best anyway.

Last I heard there were changes put in place for this years trials to cut a bit of the politics/favouritism shit out that had occurred previously from occurring this time so time will tell how that pans out.

As for the outside influences cash is always gonna be an issue swaying kids from staying. Can play for Jets NPL and get paid squat or pay for rival NPL side for a couple of hundred a week may be more appealing to many.
Where the Jets get some cash from to fund paying their Yoof ain't happening anytime soon with Tinks ownership/money issues anyway. Maybe the answer is to have a system in place in time of such a high standard and quality where kids know they are worse off leaving is the answer

Last I heard Remo was going back to Jets to play NYL after spending the winter earning coin at Jaffas. Maybe that is the answer to have the really top prospects train with the Jets during the week but actually play for the other NPL sides (ie LOAN OUT)to line the kids pockets with some coin each winter before returning to Jets for NYL. Would even see more opportunities for the younger kids to get to First Grade NPL level if the other kids were moved sideways




Yes you are bang on about the scouting of the correct youngsters. Exactly what they are doing on this is a bit of a mystery as no one seems to know and it would appear they ain't really on the ball with it anyway

[Imyourhero]

I think the most exciting thing is that every year the EJ as a whole are improving across all aspects, and as long as they are able to continue adapting by the end of our lifetimes we should be able to have some Newcastle blokes to be proud of on the international stage.

[MFKS]

I think the most exciting thing is that every year the EJ as a whole are improving across all aspects, and as long as they are able to continue adapting by the end of our lifetimes we should be able to have some Newcastle blokes to be proud of on the international stage.

I would just be happy to have a couple of Newy blokes carving up the HAL for the Jets at this stage

[newi24-2-08]

Some of you blokes don't understand that most kids around the area don't exactly want to play for the emerging jets or any other jets team. Playing with their mates and not training 4 or 5 times a week is understandably much more attractive option

[GazFish35]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EpocO3ToeyM

Weston v palm beach, stream

[plague]

Some of you blokes don't understand that most kids around the area don't exactly want to play for the emerging jets or any other jets team. Playing with their mates and not training 4 or 5 times a week is understandably much more attractive option
Wot?
There's about eleventy billion comps for shits and giggles, and one for kids who legit believe they can make a living out of it.
For those kids that do, hopefully they can get that chance in Newy/Aus rather than having to travel OS.
Good balance IMHO.

[The Postman]

Piggo sacked! Barry Toohey on the ball again, story in the Tele

Heard rumours about this last week but thought it was just hearsay.

Quote from Shane Johnson "Steve has his own ideas on how he would like things to run and in the end, the club felt he wasn't the right fit for us long term"

Who takes the hot seat at Weston now?

[ForeverRed]

Big call, a successful season at the bears by piggo, he can hold his head up regardless

[Imyourhero]

wowsers

[The Magician]

Piggo sacked! Barry Toohey on the ball again, story in the Tele

Heard rumours about this last week but thought it was just hearsay.

Quote from Shane Johnson "Steve has his own ideas on how he would like things to run and in the end, the club felt he wasn't the right fit for us long term"

Who takes the hot seat at Weston now?

The Beach Boys of course

[The Magician]

http://www.westonfc.com.au/index.php/season-2014/news/80-latest-news/989-club-statement

[MFKS]

So any ideas as to what the alleged point of difference was between club and coach.

Seems rather bizarre as Weston to make the GF would have been a great achievement and well above what most would have expected from them this year

[punter]

So any ideas as to what the alleged point of difference was between club and coach.

Seems rather bizarre as Weston to make the GF would have been a great achievement and well above what most would have expected from them this year

I would say piggo stepped on a few toes.
With some players and lower grade coaches being there a long time.
With the fear of loosing players to maitland it might of been piggo goes or a heap of players and lower grade coaches go.

[The Postman]

So Piggo wanted to upset the status quo? Maybe show a few long serving players/coaches the door?

[Imyourhero]

Knowing what I do of the club and the people involved, that sounds exactly how it's probably been, and amplified by Maitland being around next season with intent to bring in new players.

[The Acolyte]

I would say piggo stepped on a few toes.
With some players and lower grade coaches being there a long time.
With the fear of loosing players to maitland it might of been piggo goes or a heap of players and lower grade coaches go.

Ah, a man that knows what he's talking about. A mate of mine who knows about these things says the toes have been sore for quite a while. Piggo did his best to educate the sore toee's but they continued to play as sore toed players play. While this was happening the senior members of the sore toee's family continued to stand around up to their knees in their own bullshizen developing tinia and blaming Piggo for their sore toes. Piggo took the pressure of the S T's and put them on the bench, [ I thought he'd taken my advice and taken them for a walk ]. The midfield competed and the side looked nothing like the side that played in the G F. then as the replacements were made it became obvious that some toes were still very sore. Change is difficult for some to accept, and telling grown ups to eat their veges. won't work. I think Weston are headed back to the middle portion of the competition, because change is too hard for some of them.

[Newsfeed]

Ah, a man that knows what he's talking about. A mate of mine who knows about these things says the toes have been sore for quite a while. Piggo did his best to educate the sore toee's but they continued to play as sore toed players play. While this was happening the senior members of the sore toee's family continued to stand around up to their knees in their own bullshizen developing tinia and blaming Piggo for their sore toes. Piggo took the pressure of the S T's and put them on the bench, [ I thought he'd taken my advice and taken them for a walk ]. The midfield competed and the side looked nothing like the side that played in the G F. then as the replacements were made it became obvious that some toes were still very sore. Change is difficult for some to accept, and telling grown ups to eat their veges. won't work. I think Weston are headed back to the middle portion of the competition, because change is too hard for some of them.

The old saying - Two sides to every story.... More behind it for the bloke to be gone after their season. You seem to know a lot, perhaps your involved or would you make a good journo? I like the reference to your 'mate' ha ha

[Zico]

I've heard the Kingpin Sore Toe be called something like a Camel Toe several times by several people from several clubs :rof:

[The Acolyte]

The old saying - Two sides to every story.... More behind it for the bloke to be gone after their season. You seem to know a lot, perhaps your involved or would you make a good journo? I like the reference to your 'mate' ha ha

Ever heard the saying "loose lips sink ships", I could nominate the date , but I won't as some people may feel self conscious about such carelessness. The names mean nothing to me as I don't know any of the people , but my 'mate' ha ha told me the story the day before the GF. The torpedoes had been in the water a long time.

[Ker-Plunk]

Totally understand piggos sacking . He failed his banjo exam , even with a tutor and refused to show reruns of the Waltons at video sessions . Wonder whose uncle gunna coach next season ?

[Imyourhero]

So which NPL or Newfm club will pick up Piggo?

[Bremsstrahlung]

I'd lean towards Edgy or Azzurri.

[The Postman]

Someones Uncle is slightly off the mark it seems, more like Father

Trevor Morris is the favorite according to the Herald

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2574676/piggott-pays-price-for-shake-up/?cs=12

[The Postman]

With the Wilson's going to West Wallsend to play it seems, pretty obvious option for Piggo is Edgeworth. Or he takes a year off, who knows.

Not sure any other coaching movements in NewFM except the Stags looking for a coach.
We would gladly take Piggo though :grin:

Adamstown - G Law
Broadmeadow - R Virgilli & B Naumov
Charlestown - S Pryce
Edgeworth - D Zane
Hamilton - M Bolch
Lambton - D Tanchevski
Maitland - C Turner
South Cardiff - G Asquith
Weston - T Morris

Belmont - B Paul
Cesnock - S Thomsom
Lake Macquarie -
Singleton - S Baillie
Thornton - D McCallister
Toronto -
Valentine - A Hackett
Wallsend - G Rowe

[The Acolyte]

I'd lean towards Edgy or Azzurri.

It looks like I know a secret, but there'll be no loose lips from me.

[italian stallion]

damian zane is the edgy coach next season

[italian stallion]

please dont call charslestown city blues azzurri because they are not

[The Magician]

please dont call charslestown city blues azzurri because they are not

It may be branded Westfield Kotara but to some it will always be Garden City... Whilst CCB plays at Lisle Carr, wears the sky blue shirt, is sponsored by Club Azzuri and still frequented by Italian pensioners... It will always be Highfields Azzuri by those born before 2009.

[italian stallion]

i played for highfields azzurri and its a insult to azzurri for ccb to be refered to as azzurri.it is nothing like azzurri now.ive only seen about two diehard italian supporters there now.

[Why Blue]

you need to remember that nnswf control the EJ programme and womans jets with money I suggest comes from many areas including NPL clubs, my point is clubs not only pay for their own NPL youth but but also part of the EJ programme, and dont start me on the amount nnswf spent bringing out imports this year for W jets

Again more sense......................................
And this is my fundamental problem with EJ program. NNSWF as administrators of the game in the NNSW area should be developing football for ALL participants with in that area. Not just a select few. If Jets want to run an EJ program no issues. But for NNSWF to be using our money, the money they syphon up from us thru our registrations to benefit a select few is wrong.
As for Jets W League................how many $$$$$$$ does that take away from all the juniors in this area ??????

NNSWF are expecting clubs to reach and maintain certain criteria, use the money helping clubs gain and then maintain that criteria. This would in turn benifit many, instead of a select few.

[Bremsstrahlung]

It may be branded Westfield Kotara but to some it will always be Garden City... Whilst CCB plays at Lisle Carr, wears the sky blue shirt, is sponsored by Club Azzuri and still frequented by Italian pensioners... It will always be Highfields Azzuri by those born before 2009.

This.
Pretty sure the only reason they changed their name was their merger with charlestown juniors and the FFA's policy about removing ethnicity from clubs names and emblems. And since Azzurri literally means blues, their attempt to bypass these rules by using Club Azzurri as a major sponsor, I and many Others will refer to them as azzurri.
Even if that's short for Club Azzurri Charlestown City Blues

[Bremsstrahlung]

With the Wilson's going to West Wallsend to play it seems, pretty obvious option for Piggo is Edgeworth. Or he takes a year off, who knows.

Not sure any other coaching movements in NewFM except the Stags looking for a coach.
We would gladly take Piggo though :grin:

Adamstown - G Law
Broadmeadow - R Virgilli & B Naumov
Charlestown - S Pryce
Edgeworth -
Hamilton - M Bolch
Lambton - D Tanchevski
Maitland - C Turner
South Cardiff - G Asquith
Weston - T Morris

Belmont - B Paul
Cesnock - S Thomson
Singleton - S Baillie
Thornton - D McCallister
Toronto -
Valentine - A Hackett
Wallsend - G Rowe

Lakes?

[The Postman]

Lakes?

They haven't folded yet? :yap:

Don't know who is coaching, but have heard they managed to retain a fair amount of their first graders - 7 or 8 or so. So they must have someone lined up.

[ForeverRed]

Olympic ?

[MFKS]

Olympic ?
Exactly what i was thinking FR :pissup:

The incumbent has had ample opportunity and time at the club now and achieved very little. Add in not even making the semis this season.

Surprised he is still in the picture there

[magician]

Exactly what i was thinking FR :pissup:

The incumbent has had ample opportunity and time at the club now and achieved very little. Add in not even making the semis this season.

Surprised he is still in the picture there

he did win the clubs 1st minor premiership

[MFKS]

he did win the clubs 1st minor premiership

Maybe so but I was under the impression that club was more interested in winning GF's.

Ever since that season they have not really been in the mix for it despite having a pretty handy squad and have definitely under achieved

[ForeverRed]

It was just a gee up

[hamburgler]

I think its well known that players dont come to Magic for the money, they dont seem to win the cash based player tug of wars... im sure Chilli n Bobby present a pretty compelling quality footballing environment motivation to players, they always seem to draw in the top players and develop a very tight group that once in find it very hard to leave.

How did Magic go against the Mariners Youth yesterday, anyone see it?

[The Magician]

he did win the clubs 1st minor premiership

Bobby Naumov won a Grand Final for Hamilton and it didnt change his situation with the club... ruthless committee's these days.

[Newsfeed]

Bobby Naumov won a Grand Final for Hamilton and it didnt change his situation with the club... ruthless committee's these days.

Sacked for been 'Too Professional'

[Lofty]

How did Magic go against the Mariners Youth yesterday, anyone see it?

Finished 0-0. Couple of great saves from both keepers in an up-tempo and fairly good quality match. Was funny to see the likes of Kale & Dino Faj in magic colours just a week after they played their GF for Jaffas.

[punter]

Finished 0-0. Couple of great saves from both keepers in an up-tempo and fairly good quality match. Was funny to see the likes of Kale & Dino Faj in magic colours just a week after they played their GF for Jaffas.

Was Dennis faj also at magic?'

[Bremsstrahlung]

Remmo declining a jets youth position.

[MFKS]

Remmo declining a jets youth position.


THREE years ago, Luke Remington appeared destined for professional football after scoring a goal to put Australia into the last 16 at the Under-17 World Cup.

But after just one session back with the Newcastle Jets Youth squad last week, the now 20-year-old knew it wasn’t the life he wanted any more.

Cut from the Jets program in August last year, Remington was invited back by coach James Pascoe after an impressive season with Lambton Jaffas in the Northern NSW National Premier League.

Recovering from a dislocated and fractured shoulder, Remington had a fitness/rehabilitation session with the Jets last Tuesday. The following day he called Pascoe to let him know he didn’t want to waste their time by continuing.

‘‘It was definitely not an easy decision,’’ Remington said.

‘‘I just thought, I’m happy where I am now, I’ve had a good season at the Jaffas, and back at the Jets you need a lot of commitment to train four times a week then travel for games on the weekends.

‘‘I’m not sure I want to be there, so I thought it was better to give another player my spot and an opportunity, because they want to be there more than me.

‘‘It wouldn’t be fair on the coaches as well if I went back and wasn’t fully committed.’’

The coming NYL campaign would have been Remington’s last chance to push for a senior contract with the Jets.

Although unusual, Remington’s decision to turn down a shot with the Jets Youth is not a first. Abe Wheelhouse, who played with Adamstown this year, and Edgeworth goalkeeper Jim Fogarty are others in recent years to walk away from the year-round program.

" ‘‘I’m not sure I want to be there, so I thought it was better to give another player my spot.’’ - – LUKE REMINGTON "

Youth contracts are sought-after but players are required to fit work and study around four afternoon training runs and two morning gym sessions a week, as well as games, which are sometimes held interstate.

Players are paid about $200 a week and Remington, who lives at Rathmines and works behind the bar at Wests Leagues Club, said it was difficult to juggle a job and earn an income while in the program.

But for Remington, the decision came down to a lack of desire on the training track.

‘‘I think I started in under12s in representative sides at Macquarie, NSWIS then Australian teams,’’ he said.

‘‘Some people strive to keep going in that environment with all the training. They like to do it, but I just wasn’t feeling it as much any more.

‘‘Having the season off, you realise there’s a lot more things you can do outside of just training pretty much every day of the week.

‘‘You can travel and do other things, and that’s what I’d rather do than continue to train while I’m young.’’

Remington’s only regret in walking away was letting Pascoe down.

‘‘When I got dropped it wasn’t his call, so when he stuck his neck out to get me back in the system, I felt bad not following through.

‘‘But if I went back and didn’t want to be there, it would have been worse.’’

One positive for Remington in the tough decision was that it opened the door for good friend Michael Finlayson to get another chance at the Jets.

Finlayson was let go by the club at the end of the NPL season but has accepted an invite back following Remington’s withdrawal.

‘‘He’s definitely a player who could be a first-team player there for sure, because he had a great season at the Jets,’’ Remington said. ‘‘Every game against us, he’s ripped it. He’s one of my best mates, so it’s good to see him go back.’’

Newcastle have also signed 17-year-old striker Braedyn Crowley to a NYL deal.

Crowley was Northern Fury’s leading goalscorer in the Queensland National Premier League, scoring 17 goals in 24 games.

● In NPL news, Maitland have confirmed the signing of Matt Comerford from Adamstown and the retention of striker Joel Wood.


Bit of a shame the kid doesn't want "it" as he has a fair bit of talent and could have made it further.

Makes you notice the pittance these kids are paid and how it is a priority to get some more funding into the game so these kids can actually earn a decent wage whilst pushing from the Yoof to HAL and not have to choose between football and a real job

[Disinterested Bystander]

Bit of a shame the kid doesn't want "it" as he has a fair bit of talent and could have made it further.

Makes you notice the pittance these kids are paid and how it is a priority to get some more funding into the game so these kids can actually earn a decent wage whilst pushing from the Yoof to HAL and not have to choose between football and a real job

From the article the choice between 'football and a real job' wasn't the problem.


But for Remington, the decision came down to a lack of desire on the training track.

‘‘I think I started in under12s in representative sides at Macquarie, NSWIS then Australian teams,’’ he said.

‘‘Some people strive to keep going in that environment with all the training. They like to do it, but I just wasn’t feeling it as much any more.

‘‘Having the season off, you realise there’s a lot more things you can do outside of just training pretty much every day of the week.

‘‘You can travel and do other things, and that’s what I’d rather do than continue to train while I’m young.’’

[MFKS]

From the article the choice between 'football and a real job' wasn't the problem.
You give him 40k a year to play Yoof for the Jets then we see how interested he is in with persevering with it??

[Imyourhero]

Maitland have signed matt comerford (Adamstown), Alex read (north Queensland fury), Lucas Gonzalez (from a Sydney NPL club) and have retained Joel Wood.

[magician]

Maybe so but I was under the impression that club was more interested in winning GF's.

Ever since that season they have not really been in the mix for it despite having a pretty handy squad and have definitely under achieved

Yeah I'm not sure why he has been given another chance. In the 5 yrs I'm quite sure he has won the minor premiership, lost a gf, and lost 2 preliminary finals.
That's not really that bad, time will tell next season with the departures.

[pv4]

Maitland have signed Alex read (north Queensland fury)

They're called Northern Fury now.

Interesting signing. I never really rated him when he was in Newcastle, either for Phoenix or the Jets Youth, but I watched some highlights of him at Fury and he was unbelievable - a goal machine. Has a terrible goal celebration though.

[MFKS]

DEMOTED Lake Macquarie are confident of competing for an immediate return to the Northern NSW NPL despite not having a coach in place for 2015.

The Roosters finished last and were relegated this year in the inaugural NPL under Gary Rowe, who told the club almost two months ago he would not return next season. Rowe has since taken the job at now first-division rivals West Wallsend.

Lake Macquarie have been trying to find a replacement, but Hamilton assistant Phil Koina and former Maitland and Adamstown head coach Anthony Richards have rejected approaches.

The Roosters have lost left back Dan Clements to Rosebud and goalkeeper Nathan Archbold to Broadmeadow, but leading goalscorer Sam Walker and captain Tom Walker are among those who have resisted offers from NPL clubs to stay with Lakes.

President Mary Cooper said the club was buoyed by the loyalty of the Walker brothers and other players from this year’s squad.

‘‘We are fortunate that we have players who believe in us and that we can get back up in one year,’’ Cooper said.

‘‘It is difficult finding a coach and we are interested in anyone who wants to be part of the club, although they have to be the right person for the job.’’

Elsewhere, the club who have taken the Roosters’ place in the NPL, Maitland, have signed former North Queensland Fury striker Alex Read.

A former Valentine and Lake Macquarie player, Read has spent the past two seasons in Queensland.




Hamilton have added Central Coast Mariners Youth striker Tom Spencer to their roster. He joins Matt Harper (year off), Simon Mooney (knee reconstruction) and Jesse Cook (Jets Youth) as replacements for keeper Brad Swancott (Jaffas), Dave Hodgson (retired) and James Monie.

Adamstown, who have a trial match against the Mariners Youth side on Sunday at Tuggerah, have added Roger Dowdell (Maitland), Owen Littlewood (Magic) and Jack O’Toole (year off) to the recruitment of Guy Bates, Stuart Musialik and Matt Paul.

Lambton have secured Queenslander and former Jets Youth player Josh Sansucie.

Weston, meanwhile, have called a meeting of all 2014 players tonight after the shock sacking of head coach Steve Piggott on Saturday night.

Piggott steered the Bears to second place and a grand final berth in his first and only year at the helm.

Former head coach Trevor Morris is tipped to take over and will address the players tonight.
.

[MFKS]

Yeah I'm not sure why he has been given another chance. In the 5 yrs I'm quite sure he has won the minor premiership, lost a gf, and lost 2 preliminary finals.
That's not really that bad, time will tell next season with the departures.

For most clubs that wouldn't be a bad return. For a club who is as ambitious as Olympic and has the resources they do you could argue it is a very meagre return

[prawnhead]

Someones Uncle is slightly off the mark it seems, more like Father

Trevor Morris is the favorite according to the Herald

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2574676/piggott-pays-price-for-shake-up/?cs=12

Just read the Herald on line and Trevor Morris confirmed as coach for next season. Interesting that Darren Sills will be one of his assistants. Wasn't he an assistant to Piggo this year? I could be mistaken but if he was I wouldn't like to be in the trenches with him.

[The Acolyte]

The reason Piggo's tenure at Weston ended was that they reneged on overhauling development. The reference to junior coach's in another post is apparently spot on , not all, but enough to make a loud noise. Success involves hard work and they're happy to be mediocre.I have dealt with Sillsy in business over a number of years, and will take skinny odds he's not a white ant.

[ForeverRed]

If I was sills I would have walked in support of the person who got him to weston in the first place, each to their own though

[Premy]

Interesting to see Northern are applying for the Age Restrictions on the PPS to be removed. Would Be a massive backward step in my opinion.

[The Acolyte]

Dead right, the comp. was wide open this year', with 4 rounds to go any of 5 could have gone out the back door or still make the finals and 3 were challenging for the minor premiership. That type of competition proves that the PPS works as it is.

They've already lost sight of the reason for the PPS, which is to develop young players and retain them. Removing the age restriction would only benefit those that get around with a fist full of money recruiting players

[The Magician]

Interesting to see Northern are applying for the Age Restrictions on the PPS to be removed. Would Be a massive backward step in my opinion.

I don't think its Northern's doing so much they very happy to follow big brothers lead... they would be under advisement from FFA as the PFA (Players association) are challenging FFA's PPS in the anti-discrimination, restriction of trade/employment because of age or age-discrimination.

[Zico]

I hope the age restriction is lifted. Why should a player be penalised for being over 25?

[EH9]

Why should he be penalised because he wants to change clubs?

[Thomas477]

Why should we want to develop better youth players by exposing them to a higher level?

[monz6]

What NNSW should do is stop clubs from putting in under 19s players (that can't even get a start in that grade), who are never a chance of playing first grade in the current season to minimise points. There's a big difference between 'developing young players', and putting young kids in your 20 that won't ever play. makes the points system pointless

[prawnhead]

The reason Piggo's tenure at Weston ended was that they reneged on overhauling development. The reference to junior coach's in another post is apparently spot on , not all, but enough to make a loud noise. Success involves hard work and they're happy to be mediocre.I have dealt with Sillsy in business over a number of years, and will take skinny odds he's not a white ant.

He may not have white anted him but the fact that he is there next year is a fairly strong indicator that he didn't agree with or believe in Piggos philosophy / vision on youth / junior development either. Anyway what's done is done and we all move on.
By the way how are mack and Pete?

[fan atic]

The old rumour mill is working overtime
Piggo going to Adamstown
Azzurri loosing 4 players
Johnny come lately President Bill Duncan resigned.
2 clubs in trouble of not meeting criteria for 2015
Maitland will spend money to ensure compliance with criteria

[The Acolyte]

He may not have white anted him but the fact that he is there next year is a fairly strong indicator that he didn't agree with or believe in Piggos philosophy / vision on youth / junior development either. Anyway what's done is done and we all move on.
By the way how are mack and Pete?

mack has gone to God, and pete I'm glad you reminded me,I I forgot to kick him this arvo , I'll do it now.

[Newsfeed]

The old rumour mill is working overtime
Piggo going to Adamstown
Azzurri loosing 4 players
Johnny come lately President Bill Duncan resigned.
2 clubs in trouble of not meeting criteria for 2015
Maitland will spend money to ensure compliance with criteria

Azzurri one doesn't surprise after losing 20k sponsorship for 2015.

[Tonester]

I know Maguire isn't welcome back at CCB & Hearfield & more than likely Harper going(Harper possibly to Valentine if not back to the coast) there are others who should move on.Goldman maybe retiring so any other players I may have missed moving on?

[NewFM 2014]

The old rumour mill is working overtime
Piggo going to Adamstown
Azzurri loosing 4 players
Johnny come lately President Bill Duncan resigned.
2 clubs in trouble of not meeting criteria for 2015
Maitland will spend money to ensure compliance with criteria

Does anybody know if this rumour about 2 clubs being in trouble is true , and if so what would happen if say a club could not meet the criteria . Would they put Valo up with Maitland or keep Lakes in NPL ... would be interesting.

As for Piggo to Adamstown I am fairly certain Adamstown have appointed a coach already so he wont be there I would imagine.

[Imyourhero]

Graham Law is Atown coach

[Imyourhero]

Which clubs are struggling?

[NewFM 2014]

Which clubs are struggling?

Thats what i am wondering as well. Any idea if they would allow Valo up or lakes stay up if this was the case ?

[MFKS]

Which clubs are struggling?

Probably Southy


FR's Awfully quiet on the subject

[fan atic]

As the rumour goes
The NPL criteria is going to be more strict with running a club as a business and are going to follow the process.
This will include handing over budgets for the upcoming season, Financial sustainability and 2 clubs have already been identified and will struggle.

[The Magician]

As the rumour goes
The NPL criteria is going to be more strict with running a club as a business and are going to follow the process.
This will include handing over budgets for the upcoming season, Financial sustainability and 2 clubs have already been identified and will struggle.

Has financial fair play FFP finally hit the NPL of NNSWF

[mother theresa]

Azzurri one doesn't surprise after losing 20k sponsorship for 2015.

its ok dont panic
all youth NPL regos for season 2015 have been collected, and some 2014 player debts paid.
Here is a tip- CCB can collect the 2016 youth regos, and pay the rest of the player debts outstanding for 2014.
Lamington drives are also a good source of income
go the blues

[Bremsstrahlung]

As the rumour goes
The NPL criteria is going to be more strict with running a club as a business and are going to follow the process.
This will include handing over budgets for the upcoming season, Financial sustainability and 2 clubs have already been identified and will struggle.

Hmm, wonder who the 2 clubs are.
My assumptions (Obviously not privy to specific details, just my opinion) based on Sponsorship, Juniors and Player payments

Olympic - ^Player payments, but should have sufficient sponsorship to offset costs + seem to be good at getting money in
Jaffas - ^player payments (i expect some recruiting) but as others have alluded to, seem to have the sponsorship
Edgy - Moderate-High player costs, should've got some $$$$ from GF, and their work on facilities can't be done without $$
Magic - Obviously some good sponsorship $$$ coming in here, ^ player payments for next year i imagine
Weston - seem to always get a few sponsors selling every inch of fabric on their kit. can't imagine player payments being too high.
Southy - not sure re: sponsorship, seem to have a good r'ship with Cardiff RSL, can't imagine player payments being too high
Adamstown - Average? and average?
Maitland - I imagine some good sponsorship and support from the area, and if player payments sustainable in NEWFM, should be ok for NPL
Jets Youth - Duh
Not-Azzurri - Already well documented troubles. I'd say this is one team.

As for the other team, I'd be guessing Edgy, Southy, Adamstown or maybe even Jaffas with their assumed %on player payments.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Has financial fair play FFP finally hit the NPL of NNSWF

MFKS now: :pissup::fap:

"Don't pay the shit fckers"

[Tonester]

Hope the Blues sign some decent players next season,definately light on at the back,lack of dollars a problem I suppose

[ForeverRed]

All good at the gunners,

[Thomas477]

Won't be Jaffas, their player payments will go down for next season due to Ireland leaving.

[The Acolyte]

Won't be Jaffas, their player payments will go down for next season due to Ireland leaving.

Possibly up, as they replace Ireland, Rimmington, Bradbury and Fadjevik with less points to play with

[The General]

Won't be Jaffas, their player payments will go down for next season due to Ireland leaving.

I'm sure Swancott is heaps cheaper!

[The Acolyte]

Yeah, he'll probably save them about $3,000 for the season, but he'll draw more points than Ireland would have and the same goes for the other replacements. Can't see them struggling for $, but points will make it tricky and that will equate to money.

[11forever]

Blues will be under severe pressure.

They lost their junior VP and have now lost club president to another club

The are a basket case at this point with more executive to leave in the near future

They are also about to jettison their junior base and split from their juniors altogether and make themselves even more vulnerable long term

Tihs club needs to drop and reassess what their mission is long term

Lost one of the best quality secretarys recently and who knows who will be next

[MFKS]

All good at the gunners,

Great to hear FR

Glad to see all your hard work dedication and expertise is doing the job:wink:

[MFKS]

MFKS now: :pissup::fap:

"Don't pay the shit fckers"

May well be the direction a club needs to move then.

If they can't afford it they shouldn't be paid

[cobra23]

My guess is Edgy - heard from a big birdy that the club is in turmoil on and off the park . eg (disciplinary reasons play a big part )

[immersion]

My guess is Edgy - heard from a big birdy that the club is in turmoil on and off the park . eg (disciplinary reasons play a big part )

Your probably right. Since magic have always said that they dont make anything from the grandfinal. Edgeworth could be in trouble.

[cobra23]

Your probably right. Since magic have always said that they dont make anything from the grandfinal. Edgeworth could be in trouble.

I didnt say anything about finance !!!

[The Magician]

My guess is Edgy - heard from a big birdy that the club is in turmoil on and off the park . eg (disciplinary reasons play a big part )

Too much building works... the committee has had enough, too many sore backs, blisters, and calluses

[ToTull Annihilation]

Blues will be under severe pressure.

They lost their junior VP and have now lost club president to another club

The are a basket case at this point with more executive to leave in the near future

They are also about to jettison their junior base and split from their juniors altogether and make themselves even more vulnerable long term

Tihs club needs to drop and reassess what their mission is long term

Lost one of the best quality secretarys recently and who knows who will be next

With a certain individual at the helm, the future of this club is in less than capable hands.

The ones who need 'dropping' are the ones making the calls - the blind leading the blind. The people walking away are tired of the antics and bulls**t coming from the ones holding the reigns. Loyalty is a value not treasured at this point in time - recognizing hard work comes second to making sure certain club officials are kept 'happy'.

And while they are at it, why not add a long time sponsor to that list - as if it's not long enough already.

[Nufc1994]

With a certain individual at the helm, the future of this club is in less than capable hands.

The ones who need 'dropping' are the ones making the calls - the blind leading the blind. The people walking away are tired of the antics and bulls**t coming from the ones holding the reigns. Loyalty is a value not treasured at this point in time - recognizing hard work comes second to making sure certain club officials are kept 'happy'.

And while they are at it, why not add a long time sponsor to that list - as if it's not long enough already.

Appears to be a dictatorship and they never end well!

[The Magician]

Appears to be a dictatorship and they never end well!

Hey hey hey... its not like he put his son in the team of the century or anything like that. Dictators are useful... Do you think ISIS would be around if Sadaam was still in power? Better the devil you know

[Beppe]

Hey hey hey... its not like he put his son in the team of the century or anything like that. Dictators are useful... Do you think ISIS would be around if Sadaam was still in power? Better the devil you know

Im interested to read this team of the century, can you post a link or provide the team.

[prawnhead]

Hey hey hey... its not like he put his son in the team of the century or anything like that. Dictators are useful... Do you think ISIS would be around if Sadaam was still in power? Better the devil you know

Yeah I heard about that one. Wasn't a centurion team but a 50 year Legends team. Apparently everyone in the room nearly choked on their beer when Junior was announced in the side.

[Footyhead]

Son's not a bad bloke, father's a dick both within and outside of the club.

[TXK]

Son's not a bad bloke, father's a dick both within and outside of the club.

Son is an absolute porkchop on the park

[Footyhead]

Sorry, meant off the park then

[The Magician]

Chatting to a U22's coach tonight at trials looks like the age restriction has been abolished, no penalties for players over 25? can someone confirm?

[ForeverRed]

Confirmed, amongst a number of changes, hardly worth having PPS now

[MFKS]

Confirmed, amongst a number of changes, hardly worth having PPS now

FR Enlighten us all as to what said changes are you are referring to

[namwob99]

Massive step back to where they were.