2014 NEW FM League Thread

[curious_fan]

so lets get of this whinging topic.

on a brighter note whats everyones thoughts on results for the Big grandfinal?

im going with

1st Maitland win 3-1
reggies wouldnt mind see redbacks get up going for a 3-2 score line
19s im goin to have a stab at 2-2 and maitland on penaltys

Well since I did about as well as getting the semi final results as I did last Melbourne Cup day I'll throw my 20 cents in here.

19's you beat me to the punch. I think 2-2 will be a good result at full time. and I will take a stab at 3-1 Maitland on the penalties
23's I think Valentine 2-0, didn't see much more than each side play Westy but I liked how they knocked the ball around.
First .... well I am going to say Maitland. In all honestly I think 3-1 as a scoreline but that will depend a great deal on who gets that first goal I think.

[curious_fan]

How about promote 2 ZPL clubs next year and bring it up to a 10 team comp for a start. You never know the ZPL sides may actually be competitive not get tonked every week raise the standard and only playing each other twice may also help keep things fresh. NewFM Clubs themselves agreed to this with Northern months ago provided they meet the same criteria current clubs are expected to.

Relegate the bottom two at end of season and promote the top 2 from ZPL again. Shake the comp up and force the clubs 3-8 to pull their finger out cause if they continue to be mediocre the Zone Leagues await for them. The only issue I have with this is that it promotes finances to be directed into players pockets rather than long term development. If clubs are continually looking over the shoulder about regulation investment in junior development, improved pitches, inproved facilities don't take back seats they take back of the bus seats year after year after year.

Would also have No 2 play off against the 2nd last side in NPL with an NPL place at stake. I wound rather see the entire promotion/relugation system be based on mutiple years and club championships not just once a year first grade results. Club Championship points over previous rolling three years. Encourages everything FFA/Northern are promoting, youth development within clubs, stable finances, stable playing groups.

If club X has had three seasons of good 17, 19, 23's but one year where 1st just dont cut it they get demoted and the club potentailly loses all that they had invested in those younger grades becasue they can move around without a point system. Watch Lakes Youth grades and see how many of them move to other clubs in 2015, al the time and money Lakes invested is basically wasted to them now becasue of 1 year of First Grade results.

Needs to be shaken up at both ends. Promotion to NPL needs to be more realistic for New FM sides and relegation needs to occur more frequently for the shite sides. Promotion is available? Hold your NPL Licence and win First Grade, it is that simple. What people need to do is now allow New FM clubs to adjust to the NPL Licence requiements. If Northern sink the effort into rasing New Fm that they have spent the last ten years rasing NBN standards up New FM will become what you would like it to be. But the clubs need time to reinvent themselves to do that, and encouraged to invest in more than just player payments. To do that and be encouraged to do that they need some level of stability.

**** the reserve grade off NewFM DOES NOT HAVE Reserve Grade...... it has U23's with a number (Max 5) overage players. That was done to allow a level of depth for First Grae and players to return from injury via 23's. And few clubs ever use more than a few of the overage spots from what I see. To be able to keep players fit and bring them back from injury is important for coaches and needs to be maintained.

First grade and Yoof grade only. Make these clubs actually develop juniors to actually underpin their club going forward. NPL Licences are aimed at just that. But unless you are aware of the reasons why NewFm Clubs have not all jumped at this in the single season it has been in place then it is not something to be critised. Some clubs have genuine reasons for not immediately having 13/15/17's under their banners in 2014. That does not mean they are not moving forward so they can do so, they are just doing it in a way that suits their own individual circumstances.





As for Cessnock players with 200 games of experience and they are still this mediocre?? Obviously the club is doing really well if in the 10 years or so it took to achieve that they are unable to develop better players to replace them. Wheres the junior development to be able to find the kids to replace blokes who are this far off the pace in this comp with a better calibre of player??? NewFm clubs will always lose their most talented youth. The entire system is designed to do just that (and I am not disagreeing it should). Our top 16/17 your olds in every available ages should be in the Emerging Jets or higher. Then the next 150 should be in the NPL Youth system.

What remains to be seen because it is too soon yet, is how does a club, like Cessnock for example, connect with those players it lost at 12 or 14 to NPL Youth and get them back into the club if they don't become First Grade NPL players? Is it money? (God I hope not) Is it closer links between NPL and NewFm CLubs? Is it by friendships between NPL and NewFm Coaches? IS it by having a great social atmosphere at the club? Is it because he has a few mates playing there?

Reality is it will be a different answerr for every player in that position. Perhaps NewFm is not as strong as some would like because too little was being done ten years ago and not because of perceptions about what is being done now.

[Havago]

NewFm clubs will always lose their most talented youth. The entire system is designed to do just that (and I am not disagreeing it should). Our top 16/17 your olds in every available ages should be in the Emerging Jets or higher. Then the next 150 should be in the NPL Youth system.

What remains to be seen because it is too soon yet, is how does a club, like Cessnock for example, connect with those players it lost at 12 or 14 to NPL Youth and get them back into the club if they don't become First Grade NPL players? Is it money? (God I hope not) Is it closer links between NPL and NewFm CLubs? Is it by friendships between NPL and NewFm Coaches? IS it by having a great social atmosphere at the club? Is it because he has a few mates playing there?

Reality is it will be a different answerr for every player in that position. Perhaps NewFm is not as strong as some would like because too little was being done ten years ago and not because of perceptions about what is being done now.

:grin:Finally some good positive feedback, these are the things we need on this forum, NewFM comp can only get better with more development and support of all concerned including Northern. It takes time, NBN has taken time and it needs to flow onto NewFM, as reported in the Herald today there are 5 teams trying to get up into this comp and that is a positive. Once it becomes a 10 team comp and they have all the guidelines in place it will then be ZPL turn to step up and come in line with NewFM so we can have promotion and relegation making the top comps the strongest possible.
I think with juniors leaving clubs to go to higher clubs is always a problem and getting them back is always difficult for different reasons but have a look around NBN and NewFM clubs and see how many players are playing at these clubs that have come from Cessnock. There must be a reason for this.

[sancho_theswan]

:grin:Finally some good positive feedback, these are the things we need on this forum, NewFM comp can only get better with more development and support of all concerned including Northern. It takes time, NBN has taken time and it needs to flow onto NewFM, as reported in the Herald today there are 5 teams trying to get up into this comp and that is a positive. Once it becomes a 10 team comp and they have all the guidelines in place it will then be ZPL turn to step up and come in line with NewFM so we can have promotion and relegation making the top comps the strongest possible.


+1 for sure!!!!

[sancho_theswan]

So basically they are best at beating the teams in the 3-8 bracket hence why they come 3rd each year but still can't beat the top two.

Thanks for the Scoop.

It just reconfirms the teams below your cub Sancho are shit. Nothing we didn't already know and nothing that is in dispute

Uhmm…. no? That's what your saying. I was just using a few stats to say that if BelSwans want to step up they must start to take more points off the top 2 teams than they have in the last 2 seasons.

[sancho_theswan]

Well since I did about as well as getting the semi final results as I did last Melbourne Cup day I'll throw my 20 cents in here.

19's you beat me to the punch. I think 2-2 will be a good result at full time. and I will take a stab at 3-1 Maitland on the penalties
23's I think Valentine 2-0, didn't see much more than each side play Westy but I liked how they knocked the ball around.
First .... well I am going to say Maitland. In all honestly I think 3-1 as a scoreline but that will depend a great deal on who gets that first goal I think.

a hard act to follow c_f but i'm going for…
U/19's Maitland (1) - Cessnock (2)
U/23's Valo (2) - Thornton (2)….. Valo 5-4 (on penalties)
1st's Maitland (3) - Valo (1)

[Imyourhero]

19s Maitland 3- Cessnock 1
23s Valo 4- Thornton 1
1sts Maitland 2- Valo 2 ----> Maitland on pens

[RedMexican]

Maitland 2-1 in 19's
Thornton - 2-2 thornton on pens.
Maitland 3-0.

Blake thompson man of the man in first grade

[eggball convert]

Maitland 2-1 in 19's
Thornton - 2-2 thornton on pens.
Maitland 3-0.

Blake thompson man of the man in first grade

This one is on the money so far, valo up 1-0 after an early goal in the first minute or so in 23s

[Imyourhero]

Maitland take out the gf 3-1 after extra time.

[Play feet]

Maitland are a disgrace, a lot to answer for after today's display.

[Imyourhero]

I actually didn't get to witness the game. What happened?

[MFKS]

Maitland are a disgrace, a lot to answer for after today's display.

What??

Some of the idiots supporting them were a disgrace with the drinks being thrown on to the field. Add in the abuse they were dishing out in the U19's GF which was a ****ing disgrace and lets not forget the dickhead who streaked after FT.

Apart from that the U19's side were a pack of grubs but got the win though their sportsmanship was a little piss poor. The first goal though was a disgrace as the ball never crossed the line but nick nock had the chances and butchered them.

Valo won the u 23's 2-1. Better side but a very average game

As for First Grade credit to Maitland at 1-0 down and down to 10 men they hassled and took the game to Valo and grabbed an equaliser.

Grabbed the lead a couple of mins into ET through Joel Wood and then it was 10 v 10 for a dumb card and send off. Valo pushed hard in the 2nd period and had some chances. Just shy of FT a long punt up the park was picked up by Ben Martin who beat a couple and slotted home.

I wouldn't say they were impressive but they wanted it and Valo dogged it by not having a crack in the second half and even with the man advantage you wouldn't have known it.

Valo got what they deserved for a negative display when 1-0 up and trying to park the bus. Even when they got up the other end in the 2nd half they showed no ambition to actually score

[eggball convert]

What??

Some of the idiots supporting them were a disgrace with the drinks being thrown on to the field. Add in the abuse they were dishing out in the U19's GF which was a ****ing disgrace and lets not forget the dickhead who streaked after FT.


This, was very surprised that large group were not dispersed after the first scuffle in the 1st grade game with the aforementioned drinks/ cans being thrown onto the field and over players. Wasn't present for the 19s game so can't comment on their actions then.

As for the game, I thought Valo looked the better side in the first half with Maitland resorting to a lot of long ball (not necessarily route 1) to bypass the midfield where Valo were on top. But as MFKS said, they couldn't and didn't look to capitalise on the one man advantage and Maitland dug in to get the equaliser and had the momentum going into ET, then took their chances. Valo definitely had enough opportunities to find the equaliser in ET but just failed with that final touch to get it in the net.

[RedMexican]

Maitland are a disgrace, a lot to answer for after today's display.

please elaborate for everybody here ?

Didnt think anybody in the crowd was a disgrace, yes the drinks should have been thrown. but hey a few drunks throwing beer, never experience that before anywhere

[JCBT]

What??

Some of the idiots supporting them were a disgrace with the drinks being thrown on to the field. Add in the abuse they were dishing out in the U19's GF which was a ****ing disgrace and lets not forget the dickhead who streaked after FT.

Apart from that the U19's side were a pack of grubs but got the win though their sportsmanship was a little piss poor. The first goal though was a disgrace as the ball never crossed the line but nick nock had the chances and butchered them.

Valo won the u 23's 2-1. Better side but a very average game

As for First Grade credit to Maitland at 1-0 down and down to 10 men they hassled and took the game to Valo and grabbed an equaliser.

Grabbed the lead a couple of mins into ET through Joel Wood and then it was 10 v 10 for a dumb card and send off. Valo pushed hard in the 2nd period and had some chances. Just shy of FT a long punt up the park was picked up by Ben Martin who beat a couple and slotted home.

I wouldn't say they were impressive but they wanted it and Valo dogged it by not having a crack in the second half and even with the man advantage you wouldn't have known it.

Valo got what they deserved for a negative display when 1-0 up and trying to park the bus. Even when they got up the other end in the 2nd half they showed no ambition to actually score

In the 19's game, who are you saying were grubs? Surely you were referring to Cessnock with several incidents that were disgraceful during the match. Cessnock were on top in the 2nd half but credit to the Maitland boys who dug deep and proved why they are Minor Major Premiers. The linesman needs to be congratulated for making the gutsy call with the first goal.

The beer shouldn't have been thrown and this isn't an excuse but I did notice you failed to mention the Valo player who spat on the crowd which incited the fellas behind the goals.

[RedMexican]

In the 19's game, who are you saying were grubs? Surely you were referring to Cessnock with several incidents that were disgraceful during the match. Cessnock were on top in the 2nd half but credit to the Maitland boys who dug deep and proved why they are Minor Major Premiers. The linesman needs to be congratulated for making the gutsy call with the first goal.

The beer shouldn't have been thrown and this isn't an excuse but I did notice you failed to mention the Valo player who spat on the crowd which incited the fellas behind the goals.
I honestly think it was a right call either way it went. Could have been called offside and i wouldnt have had an issue with it. The #4 from valo spat twice in the direction of the crowd which is what mainly incited the beer throwing. He should have used some common sense IMO.

[eggball convert]

I honestly think it was a right call either way it went. Could have been called offside and i wouldnt have had an issue with it. The #4 from valo spat twice in the direction of the crowd which is what mainly incited the beer throwing. He should have used some common sense IMO.

Must say I was half the field away so didn't see the spitting at/ in the direction of the crowd. The beer throwing was definitely visible to everyone though.

[MFKS]

In the 19's game, who are you saying were grubs? Surely you were referring to Cessnock with several incidents that were disgraceful during the match. Cessnock were on top in the 2nd half but credit to the Maitland boys who dug deep and proved why they are Minor Major Premiers. The linesman needs to be congratulated for making the gutsy call with the first goal.

The beer shouldn't have been thrown and this isn't an excuse but I did notice you failed to mention the Valo player who spat on the crowd which incited the fellas behind the goals.

Keep blowing as much smoke up Maitlands arse you like.

There were 6-8 tackles from Maitland that the ref refused to dish cards out to when they were entitled to receive a card. Right on FT the captain of Maitland lashed out and kicked a Cessnock player in back play off the ball and should have been sent.

Every time a decision went against Maitland they whinged like 2 year olds.

Even after FT there celebrations were a bit full of themselves and lacking respect for their opponents.

They want to win that way then so be it but deal with the criticism that comes

As for the game Maitland they may have got the biscuits on the day but wouldn't necessarily consider them the better side. Cessnock should have won it based on the chances they had and only have themselves to blame for their wasteful finishing.
Maitland despite some early dominance in the first half were pretty much hanging on the rest of it and got the breaks.

As for the linesman I had just walked into the ground and was standing on the opposite side of the pitch to him when that corner come in. At no stage did it even look close to being a goal. (Being the whole of the ball has to cross the line) and it was clearly still in the field by a considerable margin it doesn't take balls to make a call like that. It is just a plain wrong call so call a spade a spade.



As for not commenting on the spitting. I had moved up the other end for First Grade so was 100 yards away so can not comment on something I didn't see. That being said even at that distance the can was clearly visible

[Jose]

I think your criticism of a Youth Grade sides celebrations after full time in a Grand Final win is ridiculous. This is a group of young men who have played all season for that day and won... What did you expect them to go shake hands and have a stretch? Honestly wake up to yourself. The other two games saw the winning team run and jump and enjoy the moment of winning a grand final.

There were some bad tackles from both sides that probably deserved cards but the referee did a good job I thought. Didn't see the ball go over the line in the first half but since you're obviously so one-eyed about the game perhaps try and discredit Maitlands second goal as well? If Cessnock weren't good enough to take their chances then maybe that's why they finished 12 points behind Maitland on the table.

Fortunately, you can watch Cessnock all of next season without having to worry about any decisions going Maitlands way, any bad tackles, whinging or celebrations.

[MFKS]

I think your criticism of a Youth Grade sides celebrations after full time in a Grand Final win is ridiculous. This is a group of young men who have played all season for that day and won... What did you expect them to go shake hands and have a stretch? Honestly wake up to yourself. The other two games saw the winning team run and jump and enjoy the moment of winning a grand final.

There were some bad tackles from both sides that probably deserved cards but the referee did a good job I thought. Didn't see the ball go over the line in the first half but since you're obviously so one-eyed about the game perhaps try and discredit Maitlands second goal as well? If Cessnock weren't good enough to take their chances then maybe that's why they finished 12 points behind Maitland on the table.

Fortunately, you can watch Cessnock all of next season without having to worry about any decisions going Maitlands way, any bad tackles, whinging or celebrations.

I don't support Cessnock Sunshine. I just call it as I see it.

As for the celebrations Valo U22's were a lot more reserved in their celebrations. Arms raised at the whistle and then made the effort to shake hands with Thornton boys

I am sure they still enjoyed winning the GF but didn't carry on and were not over the top in their celebrations.



As for Maitland's second goal it was a shit goal to conceed with keeper letting the ball through on the near post like that. The keeper barely made much effort to stop it and I think he misjudged it and thought she was going wide.

[NewFM 2014]

MFKS .... Valentine have no problems with Maitland .

It was a very close battle all season and the whole season has rested on the four games between both teams. All games were played with pressure as often happens in football when you know what is at stake.

As much as I am aware both clubs got on perfectly well this year and I spoke to a few of the players at the club on Sunday evening and there was nothing sinister said what so ever towards Maitland as a club or the final itself.

I also spent some time with the Valentine coaching team and they actually mentioned how friendly the Maitland people were towards them and that they got on well with the coaches at Maitland.

On Valentine it will be interesting to see if we can hold on to players and coaches and if we do I have every confidence that next year will be a better final outcome.


Congrats to our 23s who completed the double this year.

[Imyourhero]

Except for the vale 22s bloke who got a straight red after the final whistle for how he was carrying on to the crowd.

[Football lover]

Except for the vale 22s bloke who got a straight red after the final whistle for how he was carrying on to the crowd.

What does everybody think
About mark and Gary Wilson signing with west wallsend? Are they going to buy a few players are they?

[Thomas477]

I don't support Cessnock Sunshine. I just call it as I see it.

Didn't we cover that in the NPL youf thread? :lulzturtle:

[leftrightout]

Wallsend are advertising for 23's and 19's coaches for "prospective" promotion.... interesting!

[pv4]

What does everybody think
About mark and Gary Wilson signing with west wallsend? Are they going to buy a few players are they?

Great guys and great players.

I wonder if this means they've come across some money for next season, or if they're just getting locals to play for them.

Word is Westy are also signing the former Lakes reserve grade keeper whose name escapes me. Not sure if/where he's been playing since Lakes tbh.

[MFKS]

Didn't we cover that in the NPL youf thread? :lulzturtle:
We probably did though it is amazing how people seem to think any opinion is based on a bias cause you support a particular club.

[Football lover]

Great guys and great players.

I wonder if this means they've come across some money for next season, or if they're just getting locals to play for them.

Word is Westy are also signing the former Lakes reserve grade keeper whose name escapes me. Not sure if/where he's been playing since Lakes tbh.

Both Wilson's are good friends with Gary Rowe I believe it will be good also herd they have signed the jones brothers and Kyle Clarke. I
Expect a few guys to go there then if these are true rumours. Would be good to see the bluebells do well again.

[leftrightout]

Both Wilson's are good friends with Gary Rowe I believe it will be good also herd they have signed the jones brothers and Kyle Clarke. I
Expect a few guys to go there then if these are true rumours. Would be good to see the bluebells do well again.

So 3 signings from ZPL clubs and that will help their cause.... thats interesting for the ZPL vs NEWFM debate!
By the way, i agree that it will help them but just saying!

[The Postman]

With all these ZPL Teams supposedly coming up and Westy possibly looking strong again, it will be an even closer competition for the 2,3,4 spots next season.

And people will still complain about the parity in NewFm...

[Bremsstrahlung]

Great guys and great players.

I wonder if this means they've come across some money for next season, or if they're just getting locals to play for them.

Word is Westy are also signing the former Lakes reserve grade keeper whose name escapes me. Not sure if/where he's been playing since Lakes tbh.

Tyler Warren?
Used to play at Westy too iirc

[curious_fan]

What does everybody think
About mark and Gary Wilson signing with west wallsend? Are they going to buy a few players are they?

There may be new players but no one is being paid at Westy next season. The club is not offering match payments, win bonuses or sign on fees. And aside from a small budget assigned to Gary Rowe for equipment etc all players are paying their own registration fees.

That came directly from the club president. I hope they do strengthen but it seems they are not willing to enter bidding wars to do it.

And it seems U17's is in NewFm again for 2015, clubs have been asked to confirm they will field 4 teams for 2015 this week.

[MFKS]

There may be new players but no one is being paid at Westy next season. The club is not offering match payments, win bonuses or sign on fees. And aside from a small budget assigned to Gary Rowe for equipment etc all players are paying their own registration fees.

That came directly from the club president. I hope they do strengthen but it seems they are not willing to enter bidding wars to do it.

And it seems U17's is in NewFm again for 2015, clubs have been asked to confirm they will field 4 teams for 2015 this week.

Good to see they ain't paying players. Hopefully a few others follow suit

How any club at this level can justify paying a cent to players borders on farce. Money better spent on strengthening the club coaching etc than going into the beer drinking kitty of players

[NewFM 2014]

Not sure that many clubs do pay players in newfm , but i may be wrong. I know that valentine pay an amount to first grade but that is mainly to pay for fuel and away game trips and football boots etc.

[pv4]

Not sure that many clubs do pay players in newfm , but i may be wrong. I know that valentine pay an amount to first grade but that is mainly to pay for fuel and away game trips and football boots etc.

I am fairly sure every club but Westy paid players this year. Of which ones I know for sure did: Maitland, Thornton, Toronto, Singleton. So I haven't had it confirmed if Cessnock or Belswans did or not (but I assume they both did), and you said Valentine made player payments of some description.

So yeah, pretty sure every club bar Westy paid players this year. How much though, is hard to say. I heard of Singleton throwing huge money, I've heard from the horses mouth a NPL player that was in preseason offered more money (much more) to play for Maitland instead of his current NPL team, and haven't heard anything overly interesting about the rest.

[sancho_theswan]

Not sure that many clubs do pay players in newfm , but i may be wrong. I know that valentine pay an amount to first grade but that is mainly to pay for fuel and away game trips and football boots etc.

Hahaha… this is sooo funny!

[sancho_theswan]

I am fairly sure every club but Westy paid players this year. Of which ones I know for sure did: Maitland, Thornton, Toronto, Singleton. So I haven't had it confirmed if Cessnock or Belswans did or not (but I assume they both did), and you said Valentine made player payments of some description.

So yeah, pretty sure every club bar Westy paid players this year. How much though, is hard to say. I heard of Singleton throwing huge money, I've heard from the horses mouth a NPL player that was in preseason offered more money (much more) to play for Maitland instead of his current NPL team, and haven't heard anything overly interesting about the rest.


Yep… can confirm that BelSwans paid players this year and every year previously. Heard that back in '85 one player was pulling $350 a game. Nowhere near those $$$ these days though.

[Zico]

Don't pay players, don't have a successful season and don't get promoted. Not difficult to work out why clubs should pay players.

[wannabe]

What does everybody think
About mark and Gary Wilson signing with west wallsend? Are they going to buy a few players are they?
Both great players in their day , but aren't both over 40 now,gary was a few years older than me and would have to be 43-44. Surely they will struggle in new fm

[MFKS]

Not sure that many clubs do pay players in newfm , but i may be wrong. I know that valentine pay an amount to first grade but that is mainly to pay for fuel and away game trips and football boots etc.
**** Me

I have heard clubs do actually pay blokes in the Zone Leagues from blokes playing for the clubs so would assume NEW FM is widespread

[NewFM 2014]

**** Me

I have heard clubs do actually pay blokes in the Zone Leagues from blokes playing for the clubs so would assume NEW FM is widespread

Ok , you can make your point without swearing. I was just saying that Valentine do and not sure about others....

[curious_fan]

Don't pay players, don't have a successful season and don't get promoted. Not difficult to work out why clubs should pay players.

But do you think it is in the best interests of the game locally long term that clubs are willing/forced to put anywhere from $35,000 (to come last) to $80,000 plus (to make a Grand Final in NBN) into players pockets? Obviously less in NewFm but still substantial for many clubs in terms of their overall budgets.

Why would a player allow money to decide his allegiance for a season above club loyalty, facilities, relationship with coaches, opportuntity to improve as a player, enjoy a good club atmosphere, to play with long term friends? But they do, it is why Northern introduced to Point System to attempt to halt the mercenary tactics by some players, it is why some clubs (probably not enough yet) have begin to take advantage of that and regain a degree control over what money the offer players.

These are not my words but I thought them very apt when I heard them spoken to a potential NewFm player who was asking for $100/win to play for a club last preseason.

"We (the club) are allowed charge $5 entry, so you (the player) not the whole team but just you alone need to provide such a high quality of entertainment to the general public that you will bring 20 people through the gates at every home game this season. And that is just to break even, add in your rego and now you need to be bringing 30-35 people through the gate to pay for yourself." Needless to say he didn't play NewFm this season and went to a ZPL Club willing to pay his demands.

I am not saying players deserve zero (depending on what level) but I certainly think the percentage of total income being used to fund player payments is far too high across all the divisions in local football.

[MFKS]

But do you think it is in the best interests of the game locally long term that clubs are willing/forced to put anywhere from $35,000 (to come last) to $80,000 plus (to make a Grand Final in NBN) into players pockets? Obviously less in NewFm but still substantial for many clubs in terms of their overall budgets.

Why would a player allow money to decide his allegiance for a season above club loyalty, facilities, relationship with coaches, opportuntity to improve as a player, enjoy a good club atmosphere, to play with long term friends? But they do, it is why Northern introduced to Point System to attempt to halt the mercenary tactics by some players, it is why some clubs (probably not enough yet) have begin to take advantage of that and regain a degree control over what money the offer players.

These are not my words but I thought them very apt when I heard them spoken to a potential NewFm player who was asking for $100/win to play for a club last preseason.

"We (the club) are allowed charge $5 entry, so you (the player) not the whole team but just you alone need to provide such a high quality of entertainment to the general public that you will bring 20 people through the gates at every home game this season. And that is just to break even, add in your rego and now you need to be bringing 30-35 people through the gate to pay for yourself." Needless to say he didn't play NewFm this season and went to a ZPL Club willing to pay his demands.

I am not saying players deserve zero (depending on what level) but I certainly think the percentage of total income being used to fund player payments is far too high across all the divisions in local football.

:thumbsup: Great Post :thumbsup:

[curious_fan]

Everyone's opinions on the addition of U17's?

Silly age in my opinion. NPL takes about 160 eligible players, another 20-30 are laready playing higher grades anyway so the best 200 U17's are taken in an exisiting competition. Where the heck does Northern think another 170 talented ones are coming from? May as well just admit its a C Grade comp. Why not have 15/16's first where the numbers are still there?

Only good part might be as its 17's junior clubs will not be as concerned in losing a team that age as a younger side.

[MFKS]

Everyone's opinions on the addition of U17's?

Silly age in my opinion. NPL takes about 160 eligible players, another 20-30 are laready playing higher grades anyway so the best 200 U17's are taken in an exisiting competition. Where the heck does Northern think another 170 talented ones are coming from? May as well just admit its a C Grade comp. Why not have 15/16's first where the numbers are still there?

Only good part might be as its 17's junior clubs will not be as concerned in losing a team that age as a younger side.

Thought the whole idea was to slowly get the structures in place so the NEW FM clubs have little to do to adjust to the NPL.

If these clubs can't rustle up junior teams then why are they playing at this level

[curious_fan]

Thought the whole idea was to slowly get the structures in place so the NEW FM clubs have little to do to adjust to the NPL.

If these clubs can't rustle up junior teams then why are they playing at this level

You seem very quick to take a negative attitude to the competition clubs as a whole. It was simply the age of the side I questioned not its existence, and while you comment on the clubs deserving to be at this level.... it was the current clubs who voted to bring in this additional side, and the reason was to step all clubs closer to holding NPL Licences together.

If NPL has 15 and 17 then I would have thought the sensible thing to do was have NewFM field the other ages, in this first step 16's. Therefore any 15yo NPL who was not selected in U17's they could drop to 16's NewFM and when a club wins promotion their current 16's would be the natural U17's NPL side the following year. Yes that may still happen, and I hope for all those kids it does but the physical size difference between a kid who doesn't turn 15 till November compared to one who turned 17 in January might be enough for him not to continue in NewFM.

The fact remains there are not over 300 talented U17 players in the lower hunter for clubs to compete over. I just think it was a rather narrow vision taken by Northern, clubs will field sides no doubt but at the end of the day they can only field the sides who from players who register with them. And unfortunately for the kids involved in this years NPL in the U13's and in U14's for South Cardiff and Jaffas, in U15's Adamdstown were examples of this. All those sides picked up under ten competition points yet none of those clubs would have wanted to field lower than competitive sides in those competitions.

[MFKS]

You seem very quick to take a negative attitude to the competition clubs as a whole. It was simply the age of the side I questioned not its existence, and while you comment on the clubs deserving to be at this level.... it was the current clubs who voted to bring in this additional side, and the reason was to step all clubs closer to holding NPL Licences together.

If NPL has 15 and 17 then I would have thought the sensible thing to do was have NewFM field the other ages, in this first step 16's. Therefore any 15yo NPL who was not selected in U17's they could drop to 16's NewFM and when a club wins promotion their current 16's would be the natural U17's NPL side the following year. Yes that may still happen, and I hope for all those kids it does but the physical size difference between a kid who doesn't turn 15 till November compared to one who turned 17 in January might be enough for him not to continue in NewFM.

The fact remains there are not over 300 talented U17 players in the lower hunter for clubs to compete over. I just think it was a rather narrow vision taken by Northern, clubs will field sides no doubt but at the end of the day they can only field the sides who from players who register with them. And unfortunately for the kids involved in this years NPL in the U13's and in U14's for South Cardiff and Jaffas, in U15's Adamdstown were examples of this. All those sides picked up under ten competition points yet none of those clubs would have wanted to field lower than competitive sides in those competitions.
Where exactly was I being negative towards the clubs at this level?? It isn't exactly huge expectations to expect clubs at this level to be able to field junior sides also is it??

As for your complaints blaming Northern for this I struggle to understand what you are getting at Northern for as they are only building the grassroots landscape further as required by the FFA.

To me the "narrow" view is really yours that the clubs in this area can not find 300 kids to play U 17's level football. Isn't it up to the clubs to actually keep kids interested and involved and develop their skills so that they have 300 kids still playing when they reach 17 years old and able to fill the spots adequately??

If the clubs actually worked on developing their players through the ages they will actually have better talented kids at this age to play rather than the hope thing that exists where they magically think they will arrive and success will come

[The Postman]

NNSWF Board will vote on October 11 to decide if NewFM will become a 10 team comp.

The 4 teams vying for the 2 spots
- Cooks Hill
- Morriset
- Swansea
- Kahibah

I think it will be Cooks Hill as there is not a team based in Newcastle in the NewFM.

And Morriest as Northern will want to mine some players from the coast.

No Swansea as long as Belswans is still in.

Don't know much about Kahibah except Grumphriet coaching there.

[namwob99]

NNSWF Board will vote on October 11 to decide if NewFM will become a 10 team comp.

The 4 teams vying for the 2 spots
- Cooks Hill
- Morriset
- Swansea
- Kahibah

I think it will be Cooks Hill, Morriest

No Swansea as long as Belswans is still in.
Don't know much about Kahibah except Grumphriet coaching there.

Wallsend not apply?

[The Postman]

I'm surprised they haven't to be honest

[Premy]

NNSWF Board will vote on October 11 to decide if NewFM will become a 10 team comp.

The 4 teams vying for the 2 spots
- Cooks Hill
- Morriset
- Swansea
- Kahibah

I think it will be Cooks Hill, Morriest

No Swansea as long as Belswans is still in.
Don't know much about Kahibah except Grumphriet coaching there.
Seems Cooks Hill are a formality the other one I'm backing is Swansea, I think that because they're Macquarie's 2nd biggest club based on numbers of registered player's will work in their favour.
Interesting that Wallsend never applied I'm sure they have their reason's, Morriset finished 6th or 7th in ZL1 I would be surprised if it's awarded to them. I know it's not going to be based on where you finished this year but it would seem strange for Morriest to skip ZPL and go straight into NewFM. Kahibah I don't know much about, apart from them losing CT which from what I'm lead to believe will help them retain most of the playing group.

[Retro Jet]

NNSWF Board will vote on October 11 to decide if NewFM will become a 10 team comp.

The 4 teams vying for the 2 spots
- Cooks Hill
- Morriset
- Swansea
- Kahibah

I think it will be Cooks Hill as there is not a team based in Newcastle in the NewFM.

And Morriest as Northern will want to mine some players from the coast.

No Swansea as long as Belswans is still in.

Don't know much about Kahibah except Grumphriet coaching there.


Wallsend not apply?


I'm surprised they haven't to be honest

The Herald article (Sept 3rd) listed Wallsend in the group of 5 applying.
Have they since withdrawn?

I have also heard meeting now on the 15th.

[The Postman]

The Herald article (Sept 3rd) listed Wallsend in the group of 5 applying.
Have they since withdrawn?

I have also heard meeting now on the 15th.

I was going from this article from the 23rd.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2580484/northern-nsw-pulls-emerging-jets-out-of-womens-league/?cs=306

[MFKS]

Cooks Hill United, Morisset, Swansea, Wallsend and Kahibah are in the running for two positions in a new-look 10-team competition.

According to that article they are still interested

[The Postman]

According to that article they are still interested

Well that changes everything.

What will happen to the Zone Leagues if 2 teams come up, massive restructuring incoming.

[pv4]

Olympic from ID2s have been offered and have accepted promotion to ID1s, I've been told.

And they came 2nd behind Bero, who I was told through the year were keen to go for promotion.

So seemingly, at least 2 teams from ID2s will be moving to ID1s.

How that affects ID1s, ZPL as a flow-on, I don't know.

[Imyourhero]

So if we had, say, cooks hill and morisset head into NewFm. Do we think this will strengthen the quality and overall balance in the competition?

[The Postman]

Something like this maybe

NPL
1. Adamstown Rosebud FC
2. Broadmeadow Magic FC
3. Charlestown City Blues FC
4. Edgeworth FC
5. Hamilton Olympic FC
6. Lambton Jaffas FC
7. Maitland FC
8. Newcastle Jets Youth
9. South Cardiff FC
10. Weston Workers FC

NewFM
1. Belmont Swansea Utd SC
2. Cessnock City FC
3. Cooks Hill UFC
4. Lake Macquarie City FC
5. Singleton SC
6. Thornton Redbacks FC
7. Toronto Awaba FC
8. Valentine FC
9. Wallsend FC
10. West Wallsend SFC

ZPL
1. New Lambton Eagles FC
2. Mayfield USFC
3. Barnsley USC
4. Dudley Redhead SFC
5. Swansea FC
6. Uni Mens FC
7. Kahibah FC
8. Cardiff City FC
9. Beresfield USSC
10. Garden Suburb FC

ZPL 1
1. Jesmond FC
2. Newcastle Suns FC
3. Kotara South Senior FC
4. Nelson Bay FC
5. Warners Bay FC
6. Morisset SC
7. Beresfield FC
8. Hamilton Olympic FC

ZPL 2
1. Westlakes Wildcats FC
2. Raymond Terrace SC
3. Muswellbrook FC
4. Stockton Sharks FC
5. Charlestown City Blues FC
6. Uni Mens FC
7. Plattsburg Maryland FC
8. Merewether Advance SFC

ZPL 3
1. Medowie FC
2. Hunter Simba FC
3. Cooks Hill UFC ZL3
4. Kurri Kurri SSC 18
5. RAAF Williamtown FC 1
6. Tenambit Sharks FC
7. Mayfield United JFC
8. Dudley Redhead UJFC

[The Postman]

So if we had, say, cooks hill and morisset head into NewFm. Do we think this will strengthen the quality and overall balance in the competition?

Probably just 2 more teams to get touched up by Valo and/or Lakes.

I don't think it will make the comp better at all, will just mean more teams battling for 4th spot.

[dan]

Yes Wallsend has applied

[hawk]

Wallsend & CH is my guess

[Elude]

They are definitely the most suited teams with the strength of the squads.
I think it will make it more competitive.
If Wallsend do come up it will be a massive achievement, hopefully they do.

[MFKS]

Thought the thing a couple of weeks ago was Swansea getting fast tracked in on the basis of their juniors.

That angle gone cold??

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

They are definitely the most suited teams with the strength of the squads.
I think it will make it more competitive.
If Wallsend do come up it will be a massive achievement, hopefully they do.

Wallsend have a lot of youth so id say their squads would be similar, but Cooks Hill will have a fairly major revamp of squads id suggest. The focus for the criteria seems to be more about facilities than anything else though, so Cookers and Wallsend would have to be front runners. And Cooks Hill have a huge junior base as well.

[pv4]

Something like this maybe

NPL
1. Adamstown Rosebud FC
2. Broadmeadow Magic FC
3. Charlestown City Blues FC
4. Edgeworth FC
5. Hamilton Olympic FC
6. Lambton Jaffas FC
7. Maitland FC
8. Newcastle Jets Youth
9. South Cardiff FC
10. Weston Workers FC

NewFM
1. Belmont Swansea Utd SC
2. Cessnock City FC
3. Cooks Hill UFC
4. Lake Macquarie City FC
5. Singleton SC
6. Thornton Redbacks FC
7. Toronto Awaba FC
8. Valentine FC
9. Wallsend FC
10. West Wallsend SFC

ZPL
1. New Lambton Eagles FC
2. Mayfield USFC
3. Barnsley USC
4. Dudley Redhead SFC
5. Swansea FC
6. Uni Mens FC
7. Kahibah FC
8. Cardiff City FC
9. Beresfield USSC
10. Garden Suburb FC

ZPL 1
1. Jesmond FC
2. Newcastle Suns FC
3. Kotara South Senior FC
4. Nelson Bay FC
5. Warners Bay FC
6. Morisset SC
7. Beresfield FC
8. Hamilton Olympic FC

ZPL 2
1. Westlakes Wildcats FC
2. Raymond Terrace SC
3. Muswellbrook FC
4. Stockton Sharks FC
5. Charlestown City Blues FC
6. Uni Mens FC
7. Plattsburg Maryland FC
8. Merewether Advance SFC

ZPL 3
1. Medowie FC
2. Hunter Simba FC
3. Cooks Hill UFC ZL3
4. Kurri Kurri SSC 18
5. RAAF Williamtown FC 1
6. Tenambit Sharks FC
7. Mayfield United JFC
8. Dudley Redhead UJFC

Decent list m8.

I wonder if it pans out similarly to that, if they would drop a team (Widcats) from ID1s yet promote 2 from ID2s. I haven't heard anything out of the Widcats camp to know what their plans are at this stage tbh.

[The Postman]

Cheers Mr Mitch ;)
I based it the list off the promotion/relagation off the comps from this year, plus the possible movements of Cooks Hill, Hamilton etc. The only winning team that didn't go up a divison is the Simba, but if Northern want to keep the numbers all squared up there could be some tough choices made in the lower leagues, it could leave teams feeling hard done by.

[Premy]

Cheers Mr Mitch ;)
I based it the list off the promotion/relagation off the comps from this year, plus the possible movements of Cooks Hill, Hamilton etc. The only winning team that didn't go up a divison is the Simba, but if Northern want to keep the numbers all squared up there could be some tough choices made in the lower leagues, it could leave teams feeling hard done by.
I also like your list.
I would propose something but and I know it's going to be controversial and ruffle a few feathers, I would like to see the 2nd teams from CCB, Olympic and Uni dropped to ZL3 and have say Simba, Medowie and Tenambit in ZL2. If Clubs want to have the 2nd Teams set up that's fine but leave them in ZL3 and promote other Clubs ahead of them and leave ZL3 for the "reserves" of the other clubs with 2 teams.

[The Postman]

I noticed 2 Beresfielf teams in the ZL, is it 2 different clubs? Or same as Uni etc.

[Premy]

I noticed 2 Beresfielf teams in the ZL, is it 2 different clubs? Or same as Uni etc.
2 separate clubs.

[BP Super Dynamos]

I don't see any point in keeping Olympic, Uni, CCB or Cooks Hill confined to ZL3. Players in these sides may lose interest whilst clubs playing against them, won't fancy being towelled up each week, should they maintain their strength

[Atownbuds]

He may be a quality player but has not clicked with the Maitland players. I can easily inform you that in no way did he or has set up a goal this season. Juddy created them on his own and mate you have rocks in your head if you think Juddy is a prick! He is the most level headed and respected player in the club. Yes Rodger's goal was a bomb, no one is denying that but he is playing like an under 6 year old at the moment and people are not happy. He could not even finish a goal on the goal line yesterday! As for club management goals, supporters and players are on track with it all but are slowly being disappointed by new personnel.

Hey Winner1,
This is Roger.I remembered reading this post a long time ago and told myself I'd come back and reply to it proving you wrong.I was a really bad signing for Maitland!... helped them get promotion by, scoring 17 goals for the season (with half the games playing right back!), i certainly setup a fair few goals,stepped up to the most important games of the season and did defensive duties that i don't normally do playing right back, but wanted to do the best for Maitland so i just did the job.Thanks for everyone else that backed me up... Reds Forever,Zues,JCBT.

Thats it! eat shit Winner1 :wink:

[Premy]

Hey Winner1,
This is Roger.I remembered reading this post a long time ago and told myself I'd come back and reply to it proving you wrong.I was a really bad signing for Maitland!... helped them get promotion by, scoring 17 goals for the season (with half the games playing right back!), i certainly setup a fair few goals,stepped up to the most important games of the season and did defensive duties that i don't normally do playing right back, but wanted to do the best for Maitland so i just did the job.Thanks for everyone else that backed me up... Reds Forever,Zues,JCBT.

Thats it! eat shit Winner1 :wink:
Best post in the history of the Foz, great shit F the haters.
:pissup::roflz:

[MFKS]

Best post in the history of the Foz, great shit F the haters.
:pissup::roflz:

Not really.

Got to wonder how insecure one is to hold onto that for months at a time to save it for another day to try and get some "e cred" with some bloke posting shit on a online forum :blush:


Look forward to more blokes playing to be posting on the foz to let us know how good their form was and how they are motivated by people on a forum flapping their gums:woo:

[Imyourhero]

Atownbuds mate, whatever it takes to motivate you is what you have to run with. If that bloke talking crap made you work harder then good on you. As for what MFKS said about blah blah it's only an online shit talker, I dont know about him but how many times in human working, sporting and social history have we used somebody putting us down as motivation to improve aspects of ourselves, and really what's the difference between online versus random person face to face. Just like face to face there's times and context to let things go by and others to take them on board. It's how you react to both sides of a decision that matters. If somebody talks crap and you use it to work hard then I'm all for that person suffering the same treatment they were willing to dish out.

[JCBT]

Hey Winner1,
This is Roger.I remembered reading this post a long time ago and told myself I'd come back and reply to it proving you wrong.I was a really bad signing for Maitland!... helped them get promotion by, scoring 17 goals for the season (with half the games playing right back!), i certainly setup a fair few goals,stepped up to the most important games of the season and did defensive duties that i don't normally do playing right back, but wanted to do the best for Maitland so i just did the job.Thanks for everyone else that backed me up... Reds Forever,Zues,JCBT.

Thats it! eat shit Winner1 :wink:
Great post Roger and well done on a fantastic season.

[The Postman]

Barry Ross to Lakes, he was last at Cessnock but had 2 years off due to Illness.

[outsider]

Barry Ross to Lakes, he was last at Cessnock but had 2 years off due to Illness.

Did they check his coaching record-must come cheap

[sancho_theswan]

Did they check his coaching record-must come cheap

Hey…. I like Barry Ross!

[Bremsstrahlung]

I think most other teams would be happy as well Sancho.

[sancho_theswan]

I think most other teams would be happy as well Sancho.

That's a bit harsh.....

[Newsfeed]

Maitland all the awards except for 23s

[Premy]

Have any Clubs heard about who will be getting promotion? I was under the impression that yesterday was the day a decision would be released.

[amishpanda]

I'm led to believe they voted on it on Saturday, and an announcement will be made today sometime.

[Retro Jet]

Heard from my gaffa just then.
Cookers, Wallsend, Kahibah in and a BYE.

[Premy]

So it a 11 team Comp?

Lakes
Belswans
Valentine
Cessnock
Toronto
Thornton
Singleton
West Wallsend

Kahibah
Cooks Hill
Wallsend

Swansea and Morriset miss out
I can't understand why it would be made into a 11 team comp.

[amishpanda]

Is the bye confirmed?

Perhaps a demotion?

[Premy]

Is the bye confirmed?

Perhaps a demotion?
I don't keep much track of this division, who came last in the season just passed?

[amishpanda]

Westy. However I believe theyve turned a few corners and made some inroads to be competitive again. The lack of demotion-able clubs may have spurred this descision.

[Retro Jet]

NNSW Media release (http://www.northernnswfootball.com.au/index.php?id=10&tx_ttnews[year]=2014&tx_ttnews[month]=10&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3984&cHash=b49495c986375f8c7a6d3840f0fce70b).

13th October, 2014
Northern NSW Football Announces Expansion of Premier Competitions For Season 2015
Northern NSW Football (NNSWF) CEO David Eland has today announced that NNSWF’s Board of Directors has approved the admission of the following clubs into the NEWFM First Division and the Herald Women’s Premier League (WPL) from season 2015.

NEWFM First Division
Cooks Hill United FC
Kahibah FC
Wallsend FC

Herald Women’s Premier League
Warners Bay FC
South Wallsend JSC
Wallsend FC

The NEWFM First Division will expand from an eight (8) to an eleven (11) team competition from next season.

Cooks Hill United FC has been one the Zone Premier League’s most consistent clubs in recent seasons. The recent improvements to the player and spectator amenities at Newcastle Athletics Track, the club’s sound financial position and huge junior base amounted to a compelling case for inclusion in NNSWF’s Premier Competitions.
It was a case of third time lucky for Kahibah FC who have applied for inclusion into the NEWFM First Division on two previous occasions. The recent improvements to Kahibah Oval in accordance with the club’s ongoing Facilities Plan proved the difference this time around.
Wallsend FC is welcomed back into NEWFM First Division following their omission in 2010. The club has responded very positively on and off the field.

The NEWFM First Division will also expand in season 2015 to include 17’s in addition to the existing 1st Grade, 23’s and 19’s.
For the Herald Women’s Premier League, Warners Bay FC, South Wallsend and Wallsend FC are all welcome additions to the WPL in 2015.

Each of the clubs has a large existing base of junior girls who are well supported by sound administration structures. The clubs will join existing clubs Adamstown Rosebud JSC, Thornton FC, Valentine FC, Football Mid North Coast and Merewether United FC in an eight team competition in 2015, which will also be underpinned by the inclusion of U/16 and U/14 divisions.

NNSWFs CEO, David Eland extended NNSWF’s congratulations to the successful clubs and wished them all every success in season 2015.
“The inclusion of three additional clubs in the NEWFM First Division and WPL will reinvigorate both competitions. The Board’s decision is consistent with NNSWF’s strategic objectives relating to its Premier Competitions,” David Eland said today.

Morisset United FC and Swansea FC’s applications to participate in the NEWFM First Division were unsuccessful on this occasion. NNSWF’s Senior Club & Referee Development Officer, Gary Fisher will meet with both clubs in the near future to provide feedback.

For Further Information:

David Eland, CEO, Northern NSW Football Ph. 02 4964 0704

Regards
Gary Fisher

Senior Club & Referee Development Officer

[amishpanda]

Very good.

[Imyourhero]

So now for the big question. How will these teams go?

[United]

Improvements to Kahibah oval haha. That's a laugh and they came 2nd last in ZPL. Struggled to field 3 teams. What a joke

[amishpanda]

Improvements to Kahibah oval haha. That's a laugh and they came 2nd last in ZPL. Struggled to field 3 teams. What a joke

+1. I didnt see the ground this year, i was away when we played there, but dont under-estimate the pulling power of money and Andre. Besides, even if they come dead last, they'll be promoted to NPL next year anyway...wont they?

Cookers will be quality. A club with a huge junior base and potentially good facilities (if they improve that damn ground) in the centre of newcastle will be awesome.

[Gary]

Promotion 2years running for Kahibah,not a bad effort since they only picked up 31 competition points over the last two season,must almost have to be a complete 1st grade clean out if they wish to compete in NewFM..

[NUGUNS]

Went and watched Kahibah v New Lambton in the final round of the year of ZPL and will have to admit after the amount of rain on the pitch and after a long season, the pitch was looking pretty good.

Just the one patch down the clubhouse end on the cricket pitch side was the only part which looked a bit waterlogged.

[hawk]

agree. Kahibah pitch looked great. Its just the results which are a concern. Sure they can recruit well and be ok but it'd be nice for teams to earn it on the pitch.

Also, nf have gone out of their way to create a bye. sounds ridic

[Sideline]

12 teams would of been the go !!! any news on player transfer rumours for these incomers one would think quite a few player movements would be happening for these new sqauds to be competitive and not just make up the numbers........

cheers

[Divad]

Total restructure of 4 teams 60 players required not lot quality 17s to 23s already newfm

[dan]

Sideline,Wallsend won't be there to make up numbers I assure you.Getting back into NewFM is something we've worked hard for on & off the field in the last few years.Its a very exciting time to be a part of this great club,cannot wait for next year..

[NewFM 2014]

So with the news yesterday from Northern on NewFM will that end this nonsense that ZPl is a better competition than NewFM or is NewFM now a better competition than NPL :-) .

[Source]

So it's exactly how we all new it would be 2 teams deserve to be promoted and one has bought a spot in newfm kahibah couldn't win a chook raffle and get promoted 2yrs in a row well done money talks.

[The Postman]

What are the grounds like for these clubs? Reading those comments and seeing words like "improvements" and "plans" makes me think they aren't up to scratch at the moment.

Also 11 teams = 20 Rounds, 10 home, 10 away so a couple teams will lose a home game from this season. It hopedully won't make that big a difference but that canteen/gate money is pretty valuable to some clubs.

[De-Champ]

Sideline,Wallsend won't be there to make up numbers I assure you.Getting back into NewFM is something we've worked hard for on & off the field in the last few years.Its a very exciting time to be a part of this great club,cannot wait for next year..

Welcome back..hope this great club gets into NPL where it belongs

[late_to_the_game]

What are the grounds like for these clubs? Reading those comments and seeing words like "improvements" and "plans" makes me think they aren't up to scratch at the moment.

Also 11 teams = 20 Rounds, 10 home, 10 away so a couple teams will lose a home game from this season. It hopedully won't make that big a difference but that canteen/gate money is pretty valuable to some clubs.

By the end of the season the Athletics Track Field is crap. It is bumpy, couch which goes dormant (All the good fields - Magic, Hamilton etc are Kikuyu). Apparently $600k in improvements - not sure what they are planning to do....

[United]

What are the grounds like for these clubs? Reading those comments and seeing words like "improvements" and "plans" makes me think they aren't up to scratch at the moment.

Also 11 teams = 20 Rounds, 10 home, 10 away so a couple teams will lose a home game from this season. It hopedully won't make that big a difference but that canteen/gate money is pretty valuable to some clubs.

Cooks hill is one of the worst grounds in Newcastle. Improvements to the facilities but bumpy and sand based. Wallsend has bindies on it and Kahibah is crap. Good luck with that

[MFKS]

Interesting the 11 team concept.

Seems to me like someone has been pencilled in for the 12th spot as soon as they get something sorted and are getting told sort this and you are in.

Hopefully the changes will see the League become a bit more competitive across the entire comp

[Leftback at Home]

I had the same thought

[leftrightout]

Cooks hill is one of the worst grounds in Newcastle. Improvements to the facilities but bumpy and sand based. Wallsend has bindies on it and Kahibah is crap. Good luck with that

Yep, pretty much my thoughts!

The people who said kahibah looked decent obviously didnt get on the pitch. It did look decent from the seating, but was bumpy and hard once out there!

[Divad]

I think somebody may fallover before start next season

[dan]

Cooks hill is one of the worst grounds in Newcastle. Improvements to the facilities but bumpy and sand based. Wallsend has bindies on it and Kahibah is crap. Good luck with that

As for our bindies United,yes there are a few around the outskirts of the ground (none on the playing surface though,I checked less than an hour ago),we've had it sprayed recently & will continue to do so until all weeds are gone,to get the ground in the best possible condition for quality football to be played on it next season is very important to us,we've also got months to get rid of a few bindies..If Wallsend has the worst pitch in this comp next year I'll eat my hat

[NUGUNS]

Interesting the 11 team concept.
Seems to me like someone has been pencilled in for the 12th spot as soon as they get something sorted and are getting told sort this and you are in.


Or one to drop out

[dan]

Welcome back..hope this great club gets into NPL where it belongs

Thank you for the kind words De-Champ!Positive talk about another club on the forum is very rare,make yourself known to me at a Wallsend home game next year & I'll shout you a beer!And yes NPL is obviously one of our ultimate goals.Its a very exciting time to be a Red Devil..

[Bremsstrahlung]

Maybe jets to go to nsw npl and winner (or top 2 with relegated npl team) promoted?

[Thomas477]

Maybe jets to go to nsw npl and winner (or top 2 with relegated npl team) promoted?

Why the hell would the youth move to nsw? They already complain when playing at Weston, travelling 2hrs each week each way to play is rediculous.

[Bremsstrahlung]

Why the hell would the youth move to nsw? They already complain when playing at Weston, travelling 2hrs each week each way to play is rediculous.

Wasn't this their plan all along? Thus the move of W-League EJ team to NSWWPL.
Not saying I agree, though i feel like I saw something about it when they first came to the NPL/NBN...

[Premy]

Why the hell would the youth move to nsw? They already complain when playing at Weston, travelling 2hrs each week each way to play is rediculous.Could only imagine for better opposition, facilities and professionalism.

[Premy]

Maybe jets to go to nsw npl and winner (or top 2 with relegated npl team) promoted?
So you're suggesting a 12 team NPL without Jets Youth and a 9 team NewFM?

[Bremsstrahlung]

So you're suggesting a 12 team NPL without Jets Youth and a 9 team NewFM?

I was on phone and trying to not type as much, but no.

10 team NPL 2015
11 team NEWFM 2015

Jets youth move to NSWPL and winner is promoted.
So 10 and 10. And not sure if they would relegate last in NPL if the Jets move on, but if there was a relegation, 2nd team promoted.

[Sideline]

Sideline,Wallsend won't be there to make up numbers I assure you.Getting back into NewFM is something we've worked hard for on & off the field in the last few years.Its a very exciting time to be a part of this great club,cannot wait for next year..

good to hear Dan sorry did not mean it in a nasty kind of way...... very happy to see you guys apart of it again would be great to see the club be back to its successful days :))

looking forward to attending a red devils match again

[MFKS]

Why the hell would the youth move to nsw? They already complain when playing at Weston, travelling 2hrs each week each way to play is rediculous.

Why is it ridiculous??

The standard in the NSW NPL is far superior to the NBN so the players would be tested better. It would also help our scouting situation a bit better getting a better fix on that comp.

Add in with the Gypos there already the day will come soon enough where WANKERERS and SMURFS are also in and us being in the NNSW League will be being left behind.

I ain't convinced that this is a goer yet. The time is right when the EJ are dominating NNSW level and add in the relationship the Jets have been trying to build with Northern in the last few years under HSG I am surprised they would be bailing just yet.

At least with the Women the argument is the standards are not there in NNSW to test the female EJ sides and Northern can see that.
Currently the standards are high enough to test the boys though hence why they only won 1 GF in top grades

[The Postman]

"Toronto Awaba Stags Football Club are pleased to announce the appointment of Tony Jovcevski as Head Coach for the 2015 season. Tony comes to us from his previous position with Broadmeadow Magic. The Club would like to wish Tony, Staff and Players all the best for season 2015."

[Premy]

Why is it ridiculous??

The standard in the NSW NPL is far superior to the NBN so the players would be tested better. It would also help our scouting situation a bit better getting a better fix on that comp.

Add in with the Gypos there already the day will come soon enough where WANKERERS and SMURFS are also in and us being in the NNSW League will be being left behind.

I ain't convinced that this is a goer yet. The time is right when the EJ are dominating NNSW level and add in the relationship the Jets have been trying to build with Northern in the last few years under HSG I am surprised they would be bailing just yet.

At least with the Women the argument is the standards are not there in NNSW to test the female EJ sides and Northern can see that.
Currently the standards are high enough to test the boys though hence why they only won 1 GF in top grades
In my opinion it would be in Northern's best interest for the EJ's to be in the NSW NPL 1 or 2. Other local Clubs wouldn't be so reluctant to release/recommend kids to Northern/EJ's if they weren't competing against them week in week out. Also EJ's would be in a higher standard of competition so the Elite kids/parents would want to be involved.

[dan]

good to hear Dan sorry did not mean it in a nasty kind of way...... very happy to see you guys apart of it again would be great to see the club be back to its successful days :))

looking forward to attending a red devils match again

Don't worry Sideline I never read it as a nasty comment,I just wanted to reply & let this division know we're taking this opportunity very seriously & will give it a red hot go next year.I usually run the Bar whenever I'm not playing so come & say hi Sideline..

[MFKS]

In my opinion it would be in Northern's best interest for the EJ's to be in the NSW NPL 1 or 2. Other local Clubs wouldn't be so reluctant to release/recommend kids to Northern/EJ's if they weren't competing against them week in week out. Also EJ's would be in a higher standard of competition so the Elite kids/parents would want to be involved.

I agree we should be going there eventually anyway and I have been advocating it for a while now.

I just ain't convinced it will be happening in the immediate future

[The Postman]

Have heard the end goal for NPL/NewFm is to have 2 12 team comps with promotion/relegation on a 2 year cycle guaranteeing the team that comes up has at least 2 seasons in the NPL.

Both these "Premier Leagues" would have to have teams in 1sts - 22s - 19s - 17s - 15s - 14s - 13s.

[ForeverRed]

NPL should never be 12 teams, not enough talent for 10 teams.

[anfield]

Northern nsw have stuffed the two top leagues around for too long. They should stop dictating who plays where and go to promotion/relegation including the interdistrict clubs. Simple

[seldom]

NPL should never be 12 teams, not enough talent for 10 teams.

Agree

[Imyourhero]

so lets do a face value 2015 comp standings guess.
1.Valo
2. Lakes
3.Belswans
4.Thornton
5.Toronto
6.Cessnock
7.Cooks Hill
8.West Wall
9. Singo
10. Wallsend
11. Kahibah

[leftrightout]

so lets do a face value 2015 comp standings guess.
1.Valo
2. Lakes
3.Belswans
4.Thornton
5.Toronto
6.Cessnock
7.Cooks Hill
8.West Wall
9. Singo
10. Wallsend
11. Kahibah

In my opinion, Cooks hill will finish top half of table maybe even scrape into top 4 and Wallsend to be mid table. I really think both of these teams can step up and really compete.
The rest look about right, although you would expect westy to be a bit stronger than last season so they might jump a couple of spots.

[Imyourhero]

We havent heard anything about belswans, cessnock and toronto so far so it will be interesting to see how the matchups from those boys and the newly promoted lads turn out

[seldom]

A couple of decent players makes a huge difference in this comp. Be interesting to see the new signings at all clubs. Valo to romp it in tho

[The Postman]

Toronto has been quietly going about its business for a change. The new coach was appointed Tuesday night. We have also had a pretty solid turn out for 19s/17s trials the past 2 weeks. We should have 2 decent teams, the 17s are very young with almost every player turning 16 next season. Stay tuned for 1sts/23s trials if we decide to hold them. Make no doubts about it the club is in a rebuilding phase, but this time we have a core group of young, local guys that bleed Blue and Yellow who are loyal to the club. We won't be world beaters quite yet but we will be competitive.

[punter]

NPL should never be 12 teams, not enough talent for 10 teams.

So with the young guys getting developed and how our current development programs are in place you are saying we will never have enough talent for a 12 team comp FR.
Something to look forward to.
I disagree.

[ForeverRed]

Hopefully not ever never

[Zico]

So with the young guys getting developed and how our current development programs are in place you are saying we will never have enough talent for a 12 team comp FR.
Something to look forward to.
I disagree.
Maybe this is ForeveRed's insecurity and a reflection on Southy's position in the league rather than an honest opinion.

[Zico]

Toronto has been quietly going about its business for a change. The new coach was appointed Tuesday night. We have also had a pretty solid turn out for 19s/17s trials the past 2 weeks. We should have 2 decent teams, the 17s are very young with almost every player turning 16 next season. Stay tuned for 1sts/23s trials if we decide to hold them. Make no doubts about it the club is in a rebuilding phase, but this time we have a core group of young, local guys that bleed Blue and Yellow who are loyal to the club. We won't be world beaters quite yet but we will be competitive.
Who is coaching the lower grades?

[JCBT]

Lake Macquarie FC U/17's & U/19's NEWFM Trials Monday 20/10 and Wednesday 22/10 6pm at Macquarie Field.

[ForeverRed]

Maybe this is ForeveRed's insecurity and a reflection on Southy's position in the league rather than an honest opinion.
Just an honest experienced opinion, magic should have more concerns looking where they finished this season

[MFKS]

Just an honest experienced opinion, magic should have more concerns looking where they finished this season
Well Played FR :gent:

Zico should not be casting stones at other clubs when his side done sweet **** all this season

[magician]

Well Played FR :gent:

Zico should not be casting stones at other clubs when his side done sweet **** all this season

Didn't magic win the "Mickey Mouse" cup

[Football life]

I think Cooks Hill and Wallsend will both make the top 4. Cooks Hill have an aging squad though, so they will have to recruit well. Wallsend have a young squad with plenty of nbn expierence but will also need a couple of signings to get them up there. Valo and Lakes will obviously be the teams to beat. My early prediction is this: (may not even be close)
1. Valo
2. Lakes
3. Wallsend
4. Belswans
5. Cooks Hill
6. Thornton
7. Toronto
8. Westy
9. Singo
10. Cessnock
11. Kahibah

[Zico]

From what I've heard is that Valo are spending up while Lakes have retained most of their NPL squad. Cooks Hill will be strong but it may take a year or 2 for them to come good and the same for Wallsend.

Kahiba could be an unknown with Andre's contacts, Thornton will be stronger than most expect, Singo could cause a few upsets and Belswans will be looking for a top 2 finish also.
I think it will be a far more even comp this season all clubs have improved and I think the only whipping boys will be Cessnock and Westy.

This is just from what I heard around the traps.

[Zico]

Well Played FR :gent:

Zico should not be casting stones at other clubs when his side done sweet **** all this season
We will be back MFKS, we will be back but Southy are always going to be a thereabouts or lesser club.
I'm not surprised to see ForeveRed posting in the NEWFM thread as it won't be long till his beloved Southy are playing in the comp.

[MFKS]

We will be back MFKS, we will be back but Southy are always going to be a thereabouts or lesser club.
I'm not surprised to see ForeveRed posting in the NEWFM thread as it won't be long till his beloved Southy are playing in the comp.

No doubt Magic will be back at the top of the tree next season. It is baffling how they ****ed up this season to the extent they did. The calibre of players they had who underperformed is surprising.

I still do not see why you wish to have a lash at FR. It costs nothing to be nice and the little dig about Southy in the New FM is un called for.

[Zico]

No doubt Magic will be back at the top of the tree next season. It is baffling how they ****ed up this season to the extent they did. The calibre of players they had who underperformed is surprising.

I still do not see why you wish to have a lash at FR. It costs nothing to be nice and the little dig about Southy in the New FM is un called for.
Just calling it how I see it MFKS.

[Bremsstrahlung]

We will be back MFKS, we will be back but Southy are always going to be a thereabouts or lesser club.
I'm not surprised to see ForeveRed posting in the NEWFM thread as it won't be long till his beloved Southy are playing in the comp.

Must be tough finishing below such a "lesser" "thereabouts" club despite the abundance of funds, playing personnel and hand picked coach.

[Leftback at Home]

Put the handbags down gentlemen.

[ForeverRed]

I'm heading back to the NPL, bit nasty down here

[wannabe]

We will be back MFKS, we will be back but Southy are always going to be a thereabouts or lesser club.
I'm not surprised to see ForeveRed posting in the NEWFM thread as it won't be long till his beloved Southy are playing in the comp.

Aren't you posting in the same thread as him zico and wasn't your club closer to relegation than his club

[Zico]

Aren't you posting in the same thread as him zico and wasn't your club closer to relegation than his club
Last season was just a small bump in the road mate.

[sancho_theswan]

I think most other teams would be happy as well Sancho.




I think Cooks Hill and Wallsend will both make the top 4. Cooks Hill have an aging squad though, so they will have to recruit well. Wallsend have a young squad with plenty of nbn expierence but will also need a couple of signings to get them up there. Valo and Lakes will obviously be the teams to beat. My early prediction is this: (may not even be close)
1. Valo
2. Lakes
3. Wallsend
4. Belswans
5. Cooks Hill
6. Thornton
7. Toronto
8. Westy
9. Singo
10. Cessnock
11. Kahibah

Please explain???

[Bremsstrahlung]

Please explain???

Was in relation to the appointment of Lakes' coach. With you saying you like him, after somebody else alluded to his poor coaching stats. Implying others would be happy lakes appointed somebody with less than appealing results. e.g more wins for everyone else.

(Don't know the bloke, just a comment that in context was light hearted, that here, appears to be slagging him off.)

[Havago]

I would have thought that ZPL being so strong thatall 3teams wwould finish in the top 4.

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

I would have thought that ZPL being so strong thatall 3teams wwould finish in the top 4.

At the risk of taking the bait on this one....the 3 teams that were promoted were not the best 3 teams in the ZPL last season (their league positions were 3rd, 4th and 9th.)

[Havago]

At the risk of taking the bait on this one....the 3 teams that were promoted were not the best 3 teams in the ZPL last season (their league positions were 3rd, 4th and 9th.)

So we will never know which is the better comp if the so called best teams never get promoted. Maybe it's just easier to make these comments because they have no intentions of ever trying to get promotion because they are at a level where they have a chance of winning. Why is it that a team that finishes 9th applies for promotion and the top two don't?

[idontwannaplaywithhowey]

So we will never know which is the better comp if the so called best teams never get promoted. Maybe it's just easier to make these comments because they have no intentions of ever trying to get promotion because they are at a level where they have a chance of winning. Why is it that a team that finishes 9th applies for promotion and the top two don't?

I can only speak for the club I am associated with (New Lambton). We have previously applied for promotion and were knocked back due to a lack of association with our junior club (when having a junior affiliation mattered). In the time since we have made great strides in improving this relationship, to the point now where it is an excellent one. We did explore the possibility of applying to the NEWFM again this season (and explored the option via accessing the relevant applications forms through NNSWF) but the reality is that we are not going to receive promotion with our current ground situation (we were moved on from a high quality facility due to NPL restrictions at the start of this year). Our club is sourcing all avenues of funds to improve the situation at our home ground so that we can mount a viable case for promotion in future years and allow the opportunity for New Lambton Juniors to play at a higher level with the club.

I hope that clears up your assertion that our club 'have no intentions of ever trying to get promotion because they are at a level where they have a chance of winning'.

[WWMTD?]

'3rd' place did win their 4th 1st grade major premiership in 5 years though, and ressies won last year and 23's this year....sooo can't be too bad across all grades.

[amishpanda]

'3rd' place did win their 4th 1st grade major premiership in 5 years though, and ressies won last year and 23's this year....sooo can't be too bad across all grades.

Expect a fairly thorough overhaul of the squad.

Not saying there are going to be people 'kicked out' and mutinies and the like, I just think the squad was tending to age a little more than average and a few players, by their own admission, will struggle to keep up with the pace of NewFM. Could be wrong though.

They definitely have the junior base to be promoting younger players through.

[amishpanda]

So we will never know which is the better comp if the so called best teams never get promoted. Maybe it's just easier to make these comments because they have no intentions of ever trying to get promotion because they are at a level where they have a chance of winning. Why is it that a team that finishes 9th applies for promotion and the top two don't?

Should rename yourself to havalaff. The promotion between ZL football and state league football is mainly dependent on facilities, youth, management and financial position. Team performance is only one small element of a huge application process.

[belswansadmin]

Edit - please use club announcements

[hawk]

I can only speak for the club I am associated with (New Lambton). We have previously applied for promotion and were knocked back due to a lack of association with our junior club (when having a junior affiliation mattered). In the time since we have made great strides in improving this relationship, to the point now where it is an excellent one. We did explore the possibility of applying to the NEWFM again this season (and explored the option via accessing the relevant applications forms through NNSWF) but the reality is that we are not going to receive promotion with our current ground situation (we were moved on from a high quality facility due to NPL restrictions at the start of this year). Our club is sourcing all avenues of funds to improve the situation at our home ground so that we can mount a viable case for promotion in future years and allow the opportunity for New Lambton Juniors to play at a higher level with the club.

I hope that clears up your assertion that our club 'have no intentions of ever trying to get promotion because they are at a level where they have a chance of winning'.

unfortunate events unfolding for you guys just when you didnt need it.

Another issue is that openings for promotion are often fleeting.
Like this year there can be 3 teams offered then it could be a closed house for the next 5.
I guess clubs need to have their criteria together and be ready for the opening.

[hawk]

I think Cooks Hill and Wallsend will both make the top 4. Cooks Hill have an aging squad though, so they will have to recruit well. Wallsend have a young squad with plenty of nbn expierence but will also need a couple of signings to get them up there. Valo and Lakes will obviously be the teams to beat. My early prediction is this: (may not even be close)
1. Valo
2. Lakes
3. Wallsend
4. Belswans
5. Cooks Hill
6. Thornton
7. Toronto
8. Westy
9. Singo
10. Cessnock
11. Kahibah

Are there 11 teams? bye is a joke. Did some some team get a leg up. cause this comp is usually well guarded.

Admin might as well just have a free for all and collect more exhorbitant rego costs. 19 teams thanks for payin'.

:tongue:

[Football life]

As far as I know yes. Kahibah have got a free ride for the past couple of seasons. They came second last in zpl last year and they struggled in zpl1 the year before. There would have to be a drastic change there to somehow justify their promotion.. I agree, 11 teams is ridiculous!

[Leftback at Home]

It could be 10 in 2016 if Jets Youth pull out of NPL (rumoured) & one goes up to take their place (maybe why 11)

[De-Champ]

Funny if it was Kahibah

[Allimpic]

Kahibah may impress a lot of you...
I know Gumpsy is well prepared and probably one of the best coaches in Newcastle at the moment

[dan]

Any notable signings for Kahibah that you know of yet Allimpic?

[pv4]

Kahibah may impress a lot of you...
I know Gumpsy is well prepared and probably one of the best coaches in Newcastle at the moment

I've heard terrific things about him coaching kids but have heard no-so-great things about his time coaching seniors on the coast.

Time will tell - it's good to see another former pro staying in the game.

[Allimpic]

I've heard terrific things about him coaching kids but have heard no-so-great things about his time coaching seniors on the coast.

Time will tell - it's good to see another former pro staying in the game.

Your right.. He is great with the kids and has already organised a few sessions for them. He is getting things in place for the new year with structures around professionalism and training. We know it will be a few years but not going up to make up the numbers

[Imyourhero]

Allimpic, assuming you're apart of kahibah. With realistic confidence, and even though the season hasn't started, where do you see the guys finishing/whats the target of the club?

[Premy]

Any notable signings for Kahibah that you know of yet Allimpic?

I've heard rumors of Adam Kwasnik and Patrick Zwaanswijk, I don't know how much truth is in the rumors just what I've heard.

[I changed my user name]

So is he a good coach or someone that can recruit players or both ?

[I changed my user name]

I've heard terrific things about him coaching kids but have heard no-so-great things about his time coaching seniors on the coast.

Time will tell - it's good to see another former pro staying in the game.

Agree more players with high level experience getting involved locally the better. Having been a player at a high level does not mean you are automatically going to be a good coach but it sure does give you a head start.

[Football life]

I've heard rumors of Adam Kwasnik and Patrick Zwaanswijk, I don't know how much truth is in the rumors just what I've heard.

Not sure about Adam but I heard Patrick Zwaanswijk could be playing at Maitland next year. If Kahibah do get players like these then it can only be good for newfm/all of newcastle football. The standard needs to lift thats for sure!

[MFKS]

Not sure about Adam but I heard Patrick Zwaanswijk could be playing at Maitland next year. If Kahibah do get players like these then it can only be good for newfm/all of newcastle football. The standard needs to lift thats for sure!
Can regale us with tales about how he is suing the Gypos for their best cans of tuna

[The Spy]

Are Kwasnik and Brad Porter still at the helm of Kanwal in the Central Coast league?

[gny]

Gumpsy will be fine, can assure you of that,
And premy be quite haha, whose next? Hutchinson? Matt simon?
I've herd of possibly one ex mariner playing

[Premy]

Gumpsy will be fine, can assure you of that,
And premy be quite haha, whose next? Hutchinson? Matt simon?
I've herd of possibly one ex mariner playing
Liam Reedy, but don't be worried you should have him covered for a starting gig :lol:

[gny]

Haha yeah he could be overage player in 17s that's about it haha

[Football lover]

When is northen doing the draws for the competitions?

[The Postman]

There is a draft going around at the moment, I beleive Monday they will be sorting out the finer details, such as the 17s, whether or not they have them all play at a seperate ground each week or play at 9.15 on regular match days

[433]

Can advise that 17's will be 9.15 KO prior to 19's. All at same ground.Makes sense.
Kicks off 7/8 March.

[Imyourhero]

Any news on when the draw will be released to the public?

[MFKS]

Any news on when the draw will be released to the public?
From last years effort I posted it on November 26th to the foz straight off Northerns Website. I believe from recollection I stumbled on it at the time so am not sure if it was up prior to the 26thNovember 2013

I suggest checking Northern Site and also the NPL site daily in the next week or two

[boz-monaut]

a good article in the Herald yesterday on Cooks Hill United

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2703097/cooks-hill-aims-for-the-top-with-spink

[MFKS]

a good article in the Herald yesterday on Cooks Hill United

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2703097/cooks-hill-aims-for-the-top-with-spink

Seen that. Bloke was a ****ing top player in his day.

The couple of years he spent at the Breakers the bloke was well on his way to becoming Griff like if he had of stuck around longer.

Never forget the night the "give us a wave sid" chant went up and continually pestered him until he did give us wave. Then the chant went to "give us a goal sid".
A couple of minutes later he duly saluted and charged to the fans responsible with the look in his eye of a dog wanting a pat. Happy days


Surprised the bloke is coaching at New FM level and wasn't used higher up the food chain in the game somewhere else.

Where's he been involved at Boz since his playing days??

[boz-monaut]

Retro is probably your man to answer those questions - I've stepped back from duties with the club due to work commitments

[seldom]

Good signing for Cookers. They'll be up there at the end of the season. In this comp you only need to sign a couple of quality players to make a huge difference. I'm sure Spinky will attract a couple.

[front2]

Good signing for Cookers. They'll be up there at the end of the season. In this comp you only need to sign a couple of quality players to make a huge difference. I'm sure Spinky will attract a couple.

A great way to fire up the home grown talent.

[Imyourhero]

Still no release of the 2015 draw? I noticed they haven't even updated the teams playing in the competition on the nnsw website.

[433]

It's on Lakes web site

[Xander]

Here it is

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.... See next post for remaining rounds.

[Xander]

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Cheers! :rof:

[Elude]

Long season.

[MFKS]

Long season.

Hopefully see a competitive comp for a change instead of having 2 teams challenging for NPL promotion and a bunch of other clubs unable to compete for anything bar last place

[dmtb]

Why do northern put games on a saturday when the cricket season is still going? this is the 4th year ive played new fm and this has happened every year. is it ignorance or are they trying to make players of both sports choose? Both newcastle district cricket and newcastle city and suburban have games going on into the new football season with 2 games for the first 2 weeks and 1 game in the 3rd week on a saturday.

[Imyourhero]

Not to mention that its 2 games on the Saturday when alot of the time normally it'd be only 1 game.

[hawk]

Why do northern put games on a saturday when the cricket season is still going? this is the 4th year ive played new fm and this has happened every year. is it ignorance or are they trying to make players of both sports choose? Both newcastle district cricket and newcastle city and suburban have games going on into the new football season with 2 games for the first 2 weeks and 1 game in the 3rd week on a saturday.

cricket wont budge on anything. w g grace is still there waving his staff at all football codes worldwide.

[Leftback at Home]

& so the good doctor should be :)