HAL 13/14 Rd14 - Newcastle Jets vs Melbourne Victory 10/1/14 k/off 730pm AEDST

[belchardo]

game on.

surprisingly confident about this game but not sure why.

leijer out, thompson out. hope caravella is in better shape than last week, as i assume he'll be playing again.

[BodyNovo]

brillante, chapman, taggz, hoole & Kew out.

leijer in would have been a better outcome for us tbh.

mitchell in as well :(

would line up like so

------------------------Biraz----------------------------
Pepper-----Reegz------------------Kanta-------Gallaway
-----------Rubez------------------Caravella-------------
------------------------Burns---------------------------
Chilli--------------------Heskey-----------------Goodwin

As its burns last game, i would just let him go nuts let him play a free role.

anyone but mitchell at CB so play kanta there.

[belchardo]

didn't realise Jaliens was out due to yellow cards.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2012776/jets-lose-kew-for-victory-game/?cs=306

[belchardo]

and apparently thompson will be playing after all.

from confidence to accepting defeat in 20 minutes. got to be some kind of record.

[Bon]

Is Burns playing or has he shipped back off OS to sort everything out?

[joel31]

Burns iin No.10 was tested in round 1 and it failed miserably

[Jeterpool]

Is Burns playing or has he shipped back off OS to sort everything out?

Nope. Last game for us.

[Jeterpool]

I would play

------------------------Biraz----------------------------
Pepper-----Reegz------------------Mitchell-------Gallaway
-----------Rubez------------------Kanta-------------
------------------------Brown---------------------------
Burns--------------------Heskey-----------------Goodwin

BK, Caravella, Chilli, Gibbs, Bridges

[Bon]

Nope. Last game for us.

Ok, good.. That gives me a little hope then..

Got any stats for us, Jeterpool??

[Premy]

Mine would be
------------------------Biraz----------------------------
Pepper-----Regan--------------Cowburn-------Gallaway
-----------Zadkovich------------------Kantarovski-------
------------------------Brown---------------------------
Burns--------------------Heskey-----------------Goodwin

Kennedy, Mitchell, Caravella, Chilli, Gibbs,

[hawk]

there will be a game, results no so important

[Jeterpool]

Ok, good.. That gives me a little hope then..

Got any stats for us, Jeterpool??

Yes. I do but I sent them in for the Jetstream. If the zine isn't getting released this game or my article isn't going to be used then I'll put them up.

Can anyone help me out with this?

[Jeterpool]

Also who is the referee? I'll give some details on them which aren't included in the Jetstream article.

[The Dunster]

We have absolutely no chance and will be destroyed. Melbourne by at least 4-0.

[q-money]

no kew no party

[Hunter403]

Mitchell will play. GVE seems to like him. Don't be surprised if Bridges starts as the 10 but wouldn't be surprised if it is Brown. Let Burns stay wide and attack: it seems it is what he is best at. Hoping he gives Goodwin another run as there were some good signs last week.

My team, for what it is worth.....

----------------Birraz--------------------------
Pepper----Regan----Mitchell (scary)----Gallaway
----------------Kanta--------------------------
Zads-----------Brown/Bridges-----------Goodwin
---------------(both dodgy at best)----------------
------Burns--------------Heskey---------------

Subs Kennedy, Caravella, Chilli, Gibbs, Brown/Bridges

[hawk]

----------------Birraz--------------------------
Pepper----Regan----Mitchell (scary)----Gallaway
----------------Kanta--------------------------
Zads-----------Brown/Bridges-----------Goodwin
---------------(both dodgy at best)----------------
------Burns--------------Heskey---------------

Subs Kennedy, Caravella, Chilli, Gibbs, Brown/Bridges

----------------Birraz--------------------------
Pepper(scary)----Regan----Mitchell (scary)----Gallaway(scary)
----------------Kanta--------------------------
Zads--------Brown/Bridges(scaryx2)---------Goodwin

------Burns(scary)-------Heskey(heads to the moon)------

Subs Kennedy(scary), Caravella(scary), Chilli(scary), Gibbs(scary), bay 2 (scary)

[Beeen]

Archibald is playing, we loose.

[joel31]

Archie Thompson is overrated

[Imyourhero]

Thompson out of form too

[joel31]

Newcastle Jets squad: 1. Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 3. Taylor REGAN, 5. Ben KANTAROVSKI, 6. Zenon CARAVELLA, 8. Ruben ZADKOVICH (c), 9. Emile HESKEY, 10. Nathan BURNS, 11. Craig GOODWIN, 13. Joey GIBBS, 14. Josh MITCHELL, 16. Jacob PEPPER, 17, James VIRGILI, 18. James BROWN, 19. Michael BRIDGES, 21. Sam GALLAWAY, 20. Ben KENNEDY (gk).

Ins: 13. Joey GIBBS (promoted), 14. Josh MITCHELL (promoted) 17. James VIRGILI (promoted), 19. Michael Bridges (promoted).

Outs: 4. Kew JALIENS (suspension), 7. Andrew HOOLE (international duty), 12. Connor CHAPMAN (international duty), 15. Josh BRILLANTE (international duty) 22. Adam TAGGART (international duty),

Unavailable: 2. Scott NEVILLE (knee injury – long term), 25. Mitch COOPER (knee injury – long term).

Bridges is in the squad :(

[Grimario]

game on.

surprisingly confident about this game but not sure why.

leijer out, thompson out. hope caravella is in better shape than last week, as i assume he'll be playing again.
Geria out, Gallaway out, ansell out, pain out, Contreras just back from injury and rumour of milligan re injuring his knee I training this morning.

If we can't turn them over, gve is worse than even I'd imagined.

[Premy]

Bridges & Caravella is in the squad :(

Fixed:roflz:

[joel31]

Geria out, Gallaway out, ansell out, pain out, Contreras just back from injury and rumour of milligan re injuring his knee I training this morning.

If we can't turn them over, gve is worse than even I'd imagined.
We'll still screw this up.

[BodyNovo]

our outs i think are much worse than theirs.

[joel31]

Our defence will be unorganised without Kew

[Beeen]

Archie Thompson is overrated


Thompson out of form too

We always manage to play him into form. The guy legit scores against us just about every match.

[russjaybee]

our outs i think are much worse than theirs.

Agreed, so we'll probably win.

[Jeterpool]

We always manage to play him into form. The guy legit scores against us just about every match.

Scored 7 times against us in 9 seasons

[Retro Jet]

Also who is the referee? I'll give some details on them which aren't included in the Jetstream article.

Strebre Delovski: his 100th game
Article:- here (http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/strebre-delovski-100-games-and-counting/82703)

[Jeterpool]

Strebre Delovski: his 100th game
Article:- here (http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/strebre-delovski-100-games-and-counting/82703)

Thanks Retro. It seems to take them an age to put out the referee appointments each week!

[Jeterpool]

Round 14 Preview –Newcastle Jets v Melbourne Victory

Overall – 25 games between the two teams.

Jets Wins – 12, Victory Wins – 9, Draws – 4

At Newcastle – 11 game in Newcastle

Jets Wins – 7, Victory Wins – 2, Draws – 2

Last Result -

Jets 2(Burns 44, 66) - 1 Victory (Troisi 50) in Melbourne.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 4 (Joel Griffiths, Ryan Griffiths and Labinot Haliti).
Victory – 7 (Archie Thompson)

Coaches Head to Head – 2 matches

Gary Van Egmond (1 win), Kevin Muscat (1 win)

Newcastle Jets Coaching Records –

Gary Van Egmond – 15 matches (10 wins, 1 draw and 4 losses = 66% win ratio)
Richard Money – 3 matches (1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 6 matches (1 win, 2 draws and 3 losses = 16% win ratio)
Nick Theodorakopoulos - 1 match (0 wins, 0 draws, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)


The Referee – Strebre Delovski
Strebre hasn’t given a penalty in a game with the Jets in the last two seasons (only data available at this stage).
8 Jets players have been booked in the last 3 games refereed by Strebre, as opposed to 3 opponents though he did send off one opposition player.
5 of our bookings and the send off came in the last game in Adelaide this season.
The Jets have won their last 3 games under Strebre Delovski.
Strebre has only refereed this fixture once, which was a Season 6 match. The result was a 2-0 loss.
Our overall win-draw-loss record with Strebre as a referee is 6-1-6.


Average Home crowd – 10451

Key facts:

The Jets haven’t kept a clean sheet against the Victory since the 0-0 Round 8, Season 6 draw (25/9/2010).
This was also the last draw between the two clubs, with the last 9 games producing an outright winner.
The Jets haven’t lost against the Victory at home since Season 5, which was a 1-3 result.
The last 10 home games against the Victory have seen the results as (most recent first) WWDWLWWDWL.
This will be the first time Kevin Muscat has lead his team to Hunter Stadium as the manager.
3 of Emile Heskey’s 9 goals for the club have come against the Victory.
Last season was the first season in his tenure Gary Van Egmond failed to win two games against Melbourne Victory.

[plague]

I love Jeterpools stats and trivia. Cheers for posting.
Although my quick analysis of them seems to point to a Jets loss.
Deans out.

[Bon]

I love Jeterpools stats and trivia. Cheers for posting.

Yeah the stats are awesome! Great work Jeterpool..
Anyone else hear Bozza's view on stats last weekend? "Stats are like a bikini.. They give you a rough idea, but don't show you everything", followed up by his idiotic laugh.. Legend..

[joel31]

Jeterpool. Heskey has scored 9 goals for the club not 7

[Jeterpool]

Jeterpool. Heskey has scored 9 goals for the club not 7

He has - that one was a typo.

Thanks Joel

[Jeterpool]

I love Jeterpools stats and trivia. Cheers for posting.
Although my quick analysis of them seems to point to a Jets loss.
Deans out.

Thanks mate. I enjoy doing it.

Wait for Deans to leave until after next week - he's the only coach who has a 100% win record against the Heart!

[Grimario]

Brown and Goodwin to get confidence building goals and magically be back to their old selves.

[joel31]

With the amount of defensive outs to either side I can see a 2-2 or 3-3 draw quite likely and a very open, attacking game

[Bon]

Brown and Goodwin to get confidence building goals and magically be back to their old selves.

Then GVE will voluntarily step aside, MFKS and Forever Red will become best mates, and Premy will start rating Caravella as a player..

[front2]

4 or more goals, a pen and Archie to score in this matchup. One thing certain is Wests bistro will be the big winner.

[Premy]

Then GVE will voluntarily step aside, MFKS and Forever Red will become best mates, and Premy will start rating Caravella as a player..

I would be happy to eat my words cause right now he needs to step up. There is a reason Adelaide let him go and its the same reason why Heart and FC are shite, the League has outgrown these recycled A-League hacks. FFS someone remind me why we signed Nicky Farking Ward his worst then Xoen Caravan.

[Nou Camp]

have we learnt to cross the ball yet? a league in general has poor crossing but our corners and free kicks are by far the worst

[q-money]

have we learnt to cross the ball yet? a league in general has poor crossing but our corners and free kicks are by far the worst

lol, i know right, i didn't think anyone could be worse than song, however we seem to have found it in zads and burns? or whoever the chumps taking the corners are, i'm not even paying attention anymore because it's time to go for a piss whenever the ball goes out over the backline

[The Dunster]

lol, i know right, i didn't think anyone could be worse than song, however we seem to have found it in zads and burns? or whoever the chumps taking the corners are, i'm not even paying attention anymore because it's time to go for a piss whenever the ball goes out over the backline

Golden Corners

[russjaybee]

It's ok guys it's not like our team or marquee striker would be suited to quality crosses or anything like that ...

[Bon]

It's ok guys it's not like our team or marquee striker would be suited to quality crosses or anything like that ...

After Takka left, I didn't think our crosses could get any worse..
I was wrong..

[lquiquer]

Ok what's the best option for our Victorian visitors tonight? Polish style or Italian classic
494
495

[MFKS]

Ok what's the best option for our Victorian visitors tonight? Polish style or Italian classic
494
495

:roflz:

Love the cage option. Need one of those for Coastie Scum though

[Grimario]

have we learnt to cross the ball yet? a league in general has poor crossing but our corners and free kicks are by far the worst

Think Goodwin hit some good ones last year. Maybe.

Goodwin goal and two assists tonight.

[hawk]

I would be happy to eat my words cause right now he needs to step up. There is a reason Adelaide let him go and its the same reason why Heart and FC are shite, the League has outgrown these recycled A-League hacks. FFS someone remind me why we signed Nicky Farking Ward his worst then Xoen Caravan.

could be worse, hearfield, honkman

[Grimario]

could be worse, hearfield, honkman

Point still stands though. A-league journey men can fvck off.

[MFKS]

Those of us going to the game tonight have a good solid look at our pre match warm up routines.

I have some points to make about them but will do so after tonight

[weston]

Contrearas (sp?) should be off. If not for the handball than for the challenge on Heskey 2 minutes later which should of been yellow aswell.

Anyway, up 1-0 looked good for the last 10 minutes. Other than that we have been average. Victory have been rather poor to help us though.

[pv4]

Gallaway, just get out. Go. Don't come back, ever

[GazFish35]

Close to the softest goal we've very conceded I'd reckon.
Looked like men v boys.

bout time virgilli got some Game time. brown has been poor, shame we all got so excited when we got him from gcu

[pv4]

Tbh brown did just about as much as I've seen and ever expect from Virgili

[pv4]

Reason why Virgili will never be above this level (or aguably at this level) number 474: he seemingly always lets the ball run past him as opposed to controlling it

[outsider]

Thanks Retro. It seems to take them an age to put out the referee appointments each week!

Check out the FFA website-appointments and team changes appear every Thursday

[weston]

We need to look at other options rather than Brown. The bloke usually has average games at best. That shot he had before Melbourne scored, i thought it was a rather lazey attempt. It was as if he didn't want to score.

[pv4]

Can we talk about how amazing Burns has been, and bring up how much we need to keep him somehow

[weston]

Looks like Heskey wants off. If thats the case than ffs give Gibbs a run, leave Bridgey to sit it out

[weston]

ffs

[pv4]

Live Bridges stats: 1 turnover from 2 possessions (in middle third)

[pv4]

Live Bridges stats: 1 turnover from 2 possessions (in middle third)

1 from 3

[GazFish35]

Where's captain obvious when you need him.


Holy **** we suck.

[pv4]

1 from 3

2 from 4 (off target shot in good position. Wait its a corner)

[pv4]

Sign. Burns. Up

[pv4]

2 from 4 (off target shot in good position. Wait its a corner)

2 from 5

[pv4]

We've officially gone back to gve ball

[pv4]

2 from 5

4 from 7. 1 interception

[pv4]

4 from 7. 1 interception

4 from 8

[pv4]

4 from 8

4 from 9

[Rocky]

This is painful

[pv4]

Kutgw Virgili

[pv4]

4 from 9

5 from 10

[Rocky]

Seriously Birraz is our only player looking good. Kanta and Burns behind him.

[pv4]

5 from 10

6 from 11

[pv4]

In summary, I saw Bridges earning these stats:

Touched the ball 11 times
Lost the ball 6 times
Created 1 chance (corner)
No key passes
2 interceptions
No tackles
No headers
Did not receive ball in threatening position (box)

[pv4]

Btw if any other HAL team played that victory side tonight, they would have smashed them.

Biraz, burns, zad, heskey & kanta were great. Caravella looked unreal in his spell (sup Bon, gtfo premy)

[Thomas477]

Brown is crap. He is approaching Jardel level crap.

Bridges at least tries to get the ball forward. Would love to have seen the stats on Brown and Virgilli losing possession.

Bridges in, Brown out.

Zad isn't a striker FFS.

[joel31]

My thoughts from the match
Negatives:
Too rigid and predictable in attack, with a lack of movement besides Zadkovich. Full-strength Victory would have shut us down
Poor decision-making in final third. E.g. Zads chance, etc.
Lack of x-factor creator and finisher
Wasteful in chances and not positioning for strengths e.g. Heskey should have been where Goodwin was for his header, etc.
Too slow in transition. Should have better prevented them countering.
Continuing on that theme not putting them under pressure playing out from the back. They played out very easily. Especially in second half
James Brown is terrible
Gallaway was very poor at tracking Barbarouses

Positives
Emile Heskey's link up play
Amount of chances created
Burns decent on counter but still lacking in final ball
Birraz
Zads. Ran his heart out all night. Clear man of the match for me

[joel31]

Brown is crap. He is approaching Jardel level crap.

Bridges at least tries to get the ball forward. Would love to have seen the stats on Brown and Virgilli losing possession.

Bridges in, Brown out.

Zad isn't a striker FFS.
I thought Bridges was decent although he still gives away ball too much but in other games he's very been poor. Not suited to play on the wing though and isn't really a finisher so not really a front 3 player unless we have Taggart or another finisher cutting in on the wing

[joel31]

I bet Heart will beat us next week

[Thomas477]

I thought Bridges was decent but in other games he's been poor. Not suited to play on the wing though and isn't really a finisher so not really a front 3 player unless we have Taggart or another finisher cutting in on the wing

On Bridges, he, like Heskey, aren't goalscorers, they are providers. Play Heskey and Bridges, Bridges and Taggart, or Heskey and Taggart and they'll work. One by themselves doesn't.

[hawk]

team of midfielders, dont know how to finish or get into a position to accept a final pass. they can get there quite well

[joel31]

team of midfielders, dont know how to finish or get into a position to accept a final pass. they can get there quite well
but I guess that's what GVE wanted when he assembled the squad. With his possession mantra

[ForeverRed]

Virgilli out, can't cross

[Jeterpool]

Goodwin had a good game. I though he played well and his free kicks were taken well.

We will miss Burns. I expect Brown will start next week now he's off despite his poor performance this week.

Reegz was awesome. As too birraz. I also thought Mitchell in general was solid. Gallaway got schooled by Kosta.

Zads tracking back was poor but was good going forward. Kanta played well yet again.

[Imyourhero]

FFS they are meant to be "professional" footballers and nobody can cross a f***cking ball. Also why the f***k does Zads get set pieces, can't cross or hit a shot, literally anyone else could surely at least hit the target.

[pv4]

Bridges at least tries to get the ball forward. Would love to have seen the stats on Brown and Virgilli losing possession.

You'll have to recruit someone else to get them for you, who has a vendetta against those blokes. I'm busy enough with Bridges over here.

Btw the only thing I ever hear from pro-bridges types is "least he goes forward". Do y'all still see that as a positive when the opposition does that exact same thing after he hands them the ball?

[sammydog]

On Bridges, he, like Heskey, aren't goalscorers, they are providers. Play Heskey and Bridges, Bridges and Taggart, or Heskey and Taggart and they'll work. One by themselves doesn't.

Could not agree more, although I thought with the way bridges played he may have actually given Heskey something to work with tonight.

[Tommyjet]

Bridges take 4 touches when 1 is needed, he comes on and turns out of trouble the same way half his team mates ( yes even brown) have been doing all game and the dead beats in the crowd start fapping each other even tho a minute later they look up and bridges is still doing circle work in the middle of the pitch before losing possession

[pv4]

On Bridges, he, like Heskey, aren't goalscorers, they are providers. Play Heskey and Bridges, Bridges and Taggart, or Heskey and Taggart and they'll work. One by themselves doesn't.

Hmm, an old formerly retired player who can only play in a position that does not exist in the club.

Sounds like he's definitely not suited to us at all, thanks for furthering the thought

[Tommyjet]

Anyone else notice the Brazilian looking guy in the suit hanging around the jets bench area while warm ups were underway? He was getting introduced to people. Possible new signing

[pv4]

A positive I saw in the second half is, granted they were hugely understrength, but we seemed to just bypass their midfield with ease. We played through them so easily

[pv4]

Anyone else notice the Brazilian looking guy in the suit hanging around the jets bench area while warm ups were underway? He was getting introduced to people. Possible new signing

Great scoop! Someone tweet a herald dude about it

[stopper2]

You'll have to recruit someone else to get them for you, who has a vendetta against those blokes. I'm busy enough with Bridges over here.

Btw the only thing I ever hear from pro-bridges types is "least he goes forward". Do y'all still see that as a positive when the opposition does that exact same thing after he hands them the ball?

The Bridges Appreciation Society will no doubt say that he had some "good touches" and even a "back heel" ooh aah and that he should start next week. I'm still waiting for him to actually have a real impact....like an assist or maybe even score a goal....provide some real "end product" before he truly warrants the applause and appreciation that he receives!

[lquiquer]

Anyone else notice the Brazilian looking guy in the suit hanging around the jets bench area while warm ups were underway? He was getting introduced to people. Possible new signing

Edson Arantes Do Nascimento better known as Mitchell Oxborough

[MFKS]

Righto Anyone watch the pre match warm up??

Can some **** explain to me what the **** is going on??

We do a shooting drill where the ball is laid off at the top of the D for someone to run onto and shoot. 99% of the useless ****s hit the **** with no conviction at all. Most of the shots from there struggle to test the ****ing keeper. Any wonder why we can't shoot in a ****ing game??

Taggz is usually the only **** there who actually shoots like an alleged ****ing pro

Heskeytime always sits this out. If this isn't needed for a ex EPL Star what the **** are the rest of the ****s wasting their energy doing this for??

After the shot has then been blazed high wide and handsome the bloke then runs onto a cross from the flanks to finish. Problem is these crosses are delivered by Pepper and Galloway so 99% of them even from a dead ****ing ball go out for a Goal kick over some ****s head or behind them.

What the **** is going on??

Who the **** is running this circus out there?? The Manager is nowhere to be seen too disinterested in what is going on and busy chatting to rival bench.

From my times overseas watching professional footballers do it overseas when the same routines were done every **** taking a shot drilled the **** out of it. 90% of the time it went in giving the keeper **** all chance. I appreciate the difference in technical skills between the players but the problem is in my eyes the lack of intensity and half arsed attitude with it.

Any wonder when the blokes do it like that in training with seemingly **** all repercussions from Management they shoot with half arsed attitudes like Brown did and Goodwin did with his free header.

Why the **** do our players waste time and ****ing energy before the game on useless shit like this??

[militiamon]

Righto Anyone watch the pre match warm up??

Can some **** explain to me what the **** is going on??

We do a shooting drill where the ball is laid off at the top of the D for someone to run onto and shoot. 99% of the useless ****s hit the **** with no conviction at all. Most of the shots from there struggle to test the ****ing keeper. Any wonder why we can't shoot in a ****ing game??

Taggz is usually the only **** there who actually shoots like an alleged ****ing pro

Heskeytime always sits this out. If this isn't needed for a ex EPL Star what the **** are the rest of the ****s wasting their energy doing this for??

After the shot has then been blazed high wide and handsome the bloke then runs onto a cross from the flanks to finish. Problem is these crosses are delivered by Pepper and Galloway so 99% of them even from a dead ****ing ball go out for a Goal kick over some ****s head or behind them.

What the **** is going on??

Who the **** is running this circus out there?? The Manager is nowhere to be seen too disinterested in what is going on and busy chatting to rival bench.

From my times overseas watching professional footballers do it overseas when the same routines were done every **** taking a shot drilled the **** out of it. 90% of the time it went in giving the keeper **** all chance. I appreciate the difference in technical skills between the players but the problem is in my eyes the lack of intensity and half arsed attitude with it.

Any wonder when the blokes do it like that in training with seemingly **** all repercussions from Management they shoot with half arsed attitudes like Brown did and Goodwin did with his free header.

Why the **** do our players waste time and ****ing energy before the game on useless shit like this??


^ first


Edit: I was waiting for this

Edit2: requoted for new page. Top work Member.

[Grimario]

Gary has apparently had a blow up about the call ups destroying his squad.

[pv4]

Mfkfc where have you been?

Gve has had us doing that shooting drill since 07.

[sammydog]

Gary has apparently had a blow up about the call ups destroying his squad.

So he is admitting he put together a squad with NO depth? Who's fault is that?

[pv4]

Gary has apparently had a blow up about the call ups destroying his squad.

There are only a few things I'll give gve credit for this season. One of them is to continue resting Chapman so Regan was ready for this month. Wise decision and Regan is doing OK out there as well as amazingly at ripping into bridges, so good work there Gary. But you have only yourself to blame for the rest of the squad. I'd love to see gves thoughts if he managed wellington one day with their international break issues :rof:

[plague]

Mfkfc where have you been?

Gve has had us doing that shooting drill since 07.

This.
Oi Member, we've run that drill since back in the day (in the before time, when Manchester United were good).
Song used to smash 10/10 every week in warm ups, then go like a busted during games.
(still tho, love the Song).
Only time I seen that drill worthwhile was a below zero day at the Emirates. Ox-chamberlain smashed a dude behind the goal fair in the face and that bitch would have stung for at least 2 weeks.
Crowd got a giggle, Ox scored a double that day.


Deans out.

[pv4]

This.
Oi Member, we've run that drill since back in the day (in the before time, when Manchester United were good).
Song used to smash 10/10 every week in warm ups, then go like a busted during games.
(still tho, love the Song).
Only time I seen that drill worthwhile was a below zero day at the Emirates. Ox-chamberlain smashed a dude behind the goal fair in the face and that bitch would have stung for at least 2 weeks.
Crowd got a giggle, Ox scored a double that day.


Deans out.

:rof:

Promise me you'll never stop being you

[halo se7en]

MKFS, totally agree. Although Goodwin was belting them in with all the confidence in the world... something he clearly can't take into games. I did wonder why the **** gallaway was taking part in a shooting drill. That was just beyond belief.

[MFKS]

Mfkfc where have you been?

Gve has had us doing that shooting drill since 07.

Theres **** all wrong with the drill as such and it is used by many quality sides

The issue is the lack of intensity and half hearted attitude towards it from the players. Add in the fact the coaching staff seem to not give any **** at all about the quality of it it makes me wonder how piss poor they treat some of their other drills during the week.

Our warm up should be spot on. They after all allegedly pay professionals to oversee the club and all I am seeing is a half arsed warm up that wouldn't be out of place at ID2 reserve level not from an allegedly professional club

[Pico]

There are only a few things I'll give gve credit for this season. One of them is to continue resting Chapman so Regan was ready for this month. Wise decision and Regan is doing OK out there as well as amazingly at ripping into bridges, so good work there Gary. But you have only yourself to blame for the rest of the squad. I'd love to see gves thoughts if he managed wellington one day with their international break issues :rof:

what get their games moved to accommodate their national team whilst the FFA says play on to Australian clubs with socceroos, olyroos, joeys taken from the rest of the league

[plague]

Oi Member, you do know there's a swear filter on don't you?
Look, it works, don't try and fight it.
****
Shit
****
Deans
****
Shit
ForeverRed
****
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(Ok, it needs some work, but still)

[Jetmaster]

In summary, I saw Bridges earning these stats:

Touched the ball 11 times
Lost the ball 6 times
Created 1 chance (corner)
No key passes
2 interceptions
No tackles
No headers
Did not receive ball in threatening position (box)

This is tiring bullshit.....spend your evening gathering anti Bridges stats. Please provide similar stats for the rest of the team.

Bridges at least has a go...and deserves a starting spot to try and ignite this team. There is now nobody else let's face it, especially if Burns goes.The reason his stats are like they are is because he is always thrown in with 10 mins to go and try to make things happen.

What tonight has again shown is that we don't have the cattle.....half this squad do not have the quality and we have no direction. I can see us spiralling down the table and achieving nothing. Heskey, Bridges, Kew, Burns and half a dozen others will be gone at the end of this season of pus.......I can't see any bright spot on the horizon for next season without a massive clear out.

[MFKS]

I'd love to see gves thoughts if he managed wellington one day with their international break issues

I would love to see him manage Wellington more just so he can get the **** away from Newy and stop ****ing our club up and **** some other ****s club up

[MFKS]

Oi Member, you do know there's a swear filter on don't you?
Look, it works, don't try and fight it.
****
Shit
****
Deans
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Shit
ForeverRed
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(Ok, it needs some work, but still)

The excessive use of the swear filter in my posts tonight is a reflection as to my current mood on tonights effort and the general direction of our club.

On another note Middleby Out

[sammydog]

This is tiring bullshit.....spend your evening gathering anti Bridges stats. Please provide similar stats for the rest of the team.

Bridges at least has a go...and deserves a starting spot to try and ignite this team. There is now nobody else let's face it, especially if Burns goes.The reason his stats are like they are is because he is always thrown in with 10 mins to go and try to make things happen.

What tonight has again shown is that we don't have the cattle.....half this squad do not have the quality and we have no direction. I can see us spiralling down the table and achieving nothing. Heskey, Bridges, Kew, Burns and half a dozen others will be gone at the end of this season of pus.......I can't see any bright spot on the horizon for next season without a massive clear out.

I'll agree with you. I actually thought he looked decent during his stint tonight. Certainly no worse that anyone who started.

Does he deserve to start, not sure, but I think he added value tonight.

[halo se7en]

Jetmaster, put me on the field & Id get stuck in and have a go, and I wouldn't take a visa spot. Give me one single reason why i shouldn't get a contract ahead of Bridges.

[MFKS]

I'll agree with you. I actually thought he looked decent during his stint tonight. Certainly no worse that anyone who started.

Does he deserve to start, not sure, but I think he added value tonight.

To who??

We were on top when Heskey and Goodwin were still there. As soon as they went off it brought Victory more into the game and they probably looked more likely to get the winner than we did. The changes were baffling by GVE to say the least as they offered us ****ing nothing but less than what we already had

[sammydog]

To who??

We were on top when Heskey and Goodwin were still there. As soon as they went off it brought Victory more into the game and they probably looked more likely to get the winner than we did. The changes were baffling by GVE to say the least as they offered us ****ing nothing but less than what we already had

Heskey was great but he was dead on his feet for his last 5 mins. He had nothing left in the tank. I'll take nothing away from his game, but he was spent.

[MFKS]

JUst watched the replay of Brown's miss and then Victrees goal.

Ball Boy needs coaching.

As soon as the ball went into the Hill the ball boy showed great urgency to give the ball to Coe to take a quick goal kick whilst everyone from the Jets was out of position. Bypassed defensive 3rd and into the midfield to launch the counter in less than 10 seconds from the ball going high and wide by Brown.

Bloke should have been looking for a ball and not given one with great urgency by the kids.

[northern_swan]

On Bridges, he, like Heskey, aren't goalscorers, they are providers. Play Heskey and Bridges, Bridges and Taggart, or Heskey and Taggart and they'll work. One by themselves doesn't.

This.

And please tell me how Bridges is worse than his teammates dropping the ball into the fish and chip stand at the back of the hill all night???

[pv4]

This is tiring bullshit.....spend your evening gathering anti Bridges stats. Please provide similar stats for the rest of the team.

Bridges at least has a go...and deserves a starting spot to try and ignite this team. There is now nobody else let's face it, especially if Burns goes.The reason his stats are like they are is because he is always thrown in with 10 mins to go and try to make things happen.

What tonight has again shown is that we don't have the cattle.....half this squad do not have the quality and we have no direction. I can see us spiralling down the table and achieving nothing. Heskey, Bridges, Kew, Burns and half a dozen others will be gone at the end of this season of pus.......I can't see any bright spot on the horizon for next season without a massive clear out.

Like I said, you're going to need someone with a different vendetta to provide those stats.

I'll agree that the stats are tiring though - it's tiring that they have been similar for 2-3 seasons now, for someone who is only getting older and will never shake the fact that he was forced into retirement and told to never play again. Yet people still think starting him is a good idea.

[pv4]

This.

And please tell me how Bridges is worse than his teammates dropping the ball into the fish and chip stand at the back of the hill all night???

Bridges is consistently like he was tonight.

Some of his teammates have won games and contributed to performances as recent as a few games ago

[lquiquer]

JUst watched the replay of Brown's miss and then Victrees goal.

Ball Boy needs coaching.

As soon as the ball went into the Hill the ball boy showed great urgency to give the ball to Coe to take a quick goal kick whilst everyone from the Jets was out of position. Bypassed defensive 3rd and into the midfield to launch the counter in less than 10 seconds from the ball going high and wide by Brown.

Bloke should have been looking for a ball and not given one with great urgency by the kids.

Just outstanding execution during the game of that drill used since 07 by the full hearted attitude ball boys pre-game.....

[militiamon]

Was it just me or did Goodwin seem to be a bit better tonight?

I mean he seemed to start off pretty shit, but I felt as the game wore on his confidence seemed to grow and his decision making improved. Still has a huge amount of improving to do, and I don't think he's even close to where he was when he first came into the squad, but I saw some positive signs.

[pudy]

This is all starting to have a horrible sense of deja vu written all over it. Once again we're back to the dreaded 6th, 7th, 8th shit fight we've been in for the last five years. After 14 rounds last season, we were on 16 points, this season, 19 points.. slight improvement but not enough.

Hope Burns can stay but I don't see it. If he leaves, we should only be looking at forwards to come in.. plenty of defenders and midfielders to go around.

[la bazzle]

Burns isn't awesome but gee whizz once he goes what do we have left.......awwwwww shiiiiiiiiiiit

[joel31]

So he is admitting he put together a squad with NO depth? Who's fault is that?
Its pretty hard in the A-League with a limited amount of players on full-time contracts

[joel31]

This is tiring bullshit.....spend your evening gathering anti Bridges stats. Please provide similar stats for the rest of the team.

Bridges at least has a go...and deserves a starting spot to try and ignite this team. There is now nobody else let's face it, especially if Burns goes.The reason his stats are like they are is because he is always thrown in with 10 mins to go and try to make things happen.

What tonight has again shown is that we don't have the cattle.....half this squad do not have the quality and we have no direction. I can see us spiralling down the table and achieving nothing. Heskey, Bridges, Kew, Burns and half a dozen others will be gone at the end of this season of pus.......I can't see any bright spot on the horizon for next season without a massive clear out.
He doesn't have the legs to last 90 minutes. Thus why hes an impact player

[joel31]

Was it just me or did Goodwin seem to be a bit better tonight?

I mean he seemed to start off pretty shit, but I felt as the game wore on his confidence seemed to grow and his decision making improved. Still has a huge amount of improving to do, and I don't think he's even close to where he was when he first came into the squad, but I saw some positive signs.
He so inconsistent. He'll have moments of brilliance then he'll make mistakes or screw something up real bad

[joel31]

Perth are above us. Goodbye to finals football for another year

[pv4]

He doesn't have the legs to last 90 minutes. Thus why hes an impact player

Agreed. And I will further this to say if he can't make something happen against 70-80minute tired legs, what difference would playing against fresh legs make?

[joel31]

Who cares we signed griffo

[Thomas477]

Who cares we signed griffo

This. I don't care where we end up. Griffo has returned!

[la bazzle]

Burns isn't awesome but gee whizz once he goes what do we have left.......awwwwww shiiiiiiiiiiit

Pfffft we have griff now u negative khunt! Carn u jets!!

Delete thread this was pre-griff

[militiamon]

Burns isn't awesome but gee whizz once he goes what do we have left.......awwwwww shiiiiiiiiiiit

Griffo

[Bon]

Caravella looked unreal in his spell (sup Bon, gtfo premy)

:tongue:

[Premy]

I was that drunk last night I can't remember ****. I'll have to wait till I watch the replay to see if Caravella was any good even then I won't believe it.

holy **** was I drunk last night I love Friday night games.

[q-money]

caravella was very good, looked a much better player than he has in recent times, also gr8 haircut

[Premy]

caravella was very good, looked a much better player than he has in recent times, also gr8 haircut

I see what you did there

[MFKS]

2 home games in a week 43 shots and can only score once from an own goal. Then we sign Griffo.

How many we gonna score now with Griffo tucking them away???

[pudy]

Would have won 8-1 last night with Griffo

[MFKS]

Would have won 8-1 last night with Griffo


No we wouldn't have.We would have won 9-0

Griffo would have buried that chance Brown missed and would have been getting raped by over zealous fans in Bay 2 at the time Victree got their goal.

[Jeterpool]

So why wasn't Nick Ward in the squad last night? I'm not saying he should have played, but surely he should be in the "xx-man squad for the clash with X"

If we got him as cover, why aren't we using him?

[MFKS]

So why wasn't Nick Ward in the squad last night? I'm not saying he should have played, but surely he should be in the "xx-man squad for the clash with X"

If we got him as cover, why aren't we using him?

Wasn't he injured anyways??

Did see him pre game with Kew Jalians.

Get to see all the celebs in the Western Stand.

Last week ex EPL star Gallas was on the blower at HT.

[My2BobsWorth]

This is tiring bullshit.....spend your evening gathering anti Bridges stats. Please provide similar stats for the rest of the team.

Bridges at least has a go...and deserves a starting spot to try and ignite this team. There is now nobody else let's face it, especially if Burns goes.The reason his stats are like they are is because he is always thrown in with 10 mins to go and try to make things happen.

What tonight has again shown is that we don't have the cattle.....half this squad do not have the quality and we have no direction. I can see us spiralling down the table and achieving nothing. Heskey, Bridges, Kew, Burns and half a dozen others will be gone at the end of this season of pus.......I can't see any bright spot on the horizon for next season without a massive clear out.

Well said Jetmaster, I couldn't believe it either. Watch the fukn game!

[pv4]

Well said Jetmaster, I couldn't believe it either. Watch the fukn game!

I did watch the game.

And was able to gather those stats from watching it.

As in I was able to use evidence to support an argument.

[sammydog]

To be fair, if your going to use stats to prove the performance of one player, throw the stats up of all players so there is actually a baseline to compare them to.

[pv4]

To be fair, if your going to use stats to prove the performance of one player, throw the stats up of all players so there is actually a baseline to compare them to.

I've said all along I'm happy for anyone to provide those stats - feel free.

I'm personally continuing an ongoing study of about 2-3 years of bridges stats alone, and am comparing them to his former stats.

Bridges fans say he provides goals - my stats say 0 assists.
Bridges fans say he is a key passer - my stats say otherwise.
Bridges fans say he looks good as a commentator - my stats only assess his usefulness on the field, which is what he primarily gets paid to do.

My goal is to ask what people see as his positives, then assess quantitatively whether he actually achieves those things. If he doesn't, does that not mean he does not add anything to the team?

Also if we can just throw a "I reckon" comment around, like bridges fans love to do - I reckon bridges is scared to head the ball. He seems to me to hide from crosses and not challenege anything aerially.

[GazFish35]

Bridges.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/share?i=03gJW7

[stopper2]

I've said all along I'm happy for anyone to provide those stats - feel free.

I'm personally continuing an ongoing study of about 2-3 years of bridges stats alone, and am comparing them to his former stats.

Bridges fans say he provides goals - my stats say 0 assists.
Bridges fans say he is a key passer - my stats say otherwise.
Bridges fans say he looks good as a commentator - my stats only assess his usefulness on the field, which is what he primarily gets paid to do.

My goal is to ask what people see as his positives, then assess quantitatively whether he actually achieves those things. If he doesn't, does that not mean he does not add anything to the team?

Also if we can just throw a "I reckon" comment around, like bridges fans love to do - I reckon bridges is scared to head the ball. He seems to me to hide from crosses and not challenege anything aerially.

Like I say with Bridges, does some nice flashy tricks at times but when you get down to analyse his actual effectiveness there is hardly any "end product" and pv4 is just proving it with cold hard stats.

[Premy]

Ok so I just finished watching the game on replay just a few things.

Zadkovich what a Champion the bloke has the biggest engine.
Coentreas how did he stay on the park.
Heskey showed his class, but please Emile get your head over the ball and Head it down.
Burns will be missed, he had a quiet 1st half 2nd half was much much better.


PV4 & Bon make sure you sit down before reading any further.
Caravella credit where credit is due he was "alright" not Great but not Bad either. I will add he came on with 15 to go against a inexperienced, young, tired, open & disjointed Melbourne midfield.
Has my humble pie been served far from it I still think he is not A-League standard.

[halo se7en]

Sammydog, it's not about comparing stats. The fact is Bridges is nearing the end of his career, ex-EPL & taking a visa spot. He's not here for his potential, and he shouldn't be here as a squaddie. He should be producing regularly. FFS he's an attacker - when's the last time he scored or set up a goal? And he's not the only one getting criticized. There's threads on gallaway & brown because they too are struggling to contribute positively. But like all Bridges fans, you'll either ignore these arguments or just say he 'tries hard'.

[WolfMan]

I'm not a Bridges champion or anything, but the whole "Visa spot" argument becomes null and void in a few weeks. Unless of course there is no regular squad spot left for him to take (clarification required perhaps)

[pv4]

I've never had a huge issue with him taking up a visa spot, as I don't think any/many use their visa spot quota properly. I habe a problem with him taking a squad spot period. We can't have the freedom to pick up a free agent, foreign or not, because he uses one of our 23 or so squad spots.

[BodyNovo]

Who cares about bridges

We have griff der

[The Dunster]

People are talking about how bad the Jets played... and so on. But what about Melbourne Victory ? If we were shit, then MV should be relegated given that we pushed them all around the park for the majority of the match.

Like last week we created a lot of opportunities but we failed to convert them into goals. If we were creating nothing and being comprehensively beaten all over the park then I'd be worried.

On a positive note I thought Mitchell had a solid game.

[De-Champ]

People are talking about how bad the Jets played... and so on. But what about Melbourne Victory ? If we were shit, then MV should be relegated given that we pushed them all around the park for the majority of the match.

Like last week we created a lot of opportunities but we failed to convert them into goals. If we were creating nothing and being comprehensively beaten all over the park then I'd be worried.

On a positive note I thought Mitchell had a solid game.

Sort of like melbourne Heart. Create a lot of chances....convert none of them

[halo se7en]

People are talking about how bad the Jets played... and so on. But what about Melbourne Victory ? If we were shit, then MV should be relegated given that we pushed them all around the park for the majority of the match.

Like last week we created a lot of opportunities but we failed to convert them into goals. If we were creating nothing and being comprehensively beaten all over the park then I'd be worried.

On a positive note I thought Mitchell had a solid game.

Except Victory were pretty ****ing depleted & had one of the worst defensive line-ups I've seen in years. They had no trouble finding an equaliser.. and almost a winner if it wasn't for Birraz at the end. That game was there for taking and we ****ed it, like we do every year when we have the chance to get up the table a bit.

[sammydog]

Sammydog, it's not about comparing stats. The fact is Bridges is nearing the end of his career, ex-EPL & taking a visa spot. He's not here for his potential, and he shouldn't be here as a squaddie. He should be producing regularly. FFS he's an attacker - when's the last time he scored or set up a goal? And he's not the only one getting criticized. There's threads on gallaway & brown because they too are struggling to contribute positively. But like all Bridges fans, you'll either ignore these arguments or just say he 'tries hard'.

Actually, I sit on the fence on the bridges argument. There are times he has played and I have cringed, other times I think he has been fine.

But, stats can be used to prove anything, its how you use them. Here there is no comparison to how the rest of the team is performing "stats" wise. In theory, he could have shocking stats, but compared to the rest of the team be performing fine (to saying this is the case). For these stats to have any meaning, we need to be comparing them to other players stats. I'm not going to waste my time at the game collecting stats, id rather watch the game.

[Thomas477]

Bridges.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/share?i=03gJW7

Gave the 2 off target passes in 20 minutes and had one blocked shot.

Brown had 6 off target passes in 50 minutes and had one off target shot, plus gave the ball away once more. That wasn't as bad as Virgilli though, he had a honking game. 10 off target passes with 9 successful. Only 3 of those passes were forwards.

Honestly seems we shouldn't be worried about Bridges. But Christ, Burns was positive for us.

[Jeterpool]

On a positive note I thought Mitchell had a solid game.

I said that earlier so I am glad I am not the only one who thought so.

Regan, Birraz, Kanta, Goodwin, Burns....all also had good games

[sammydog]

Other than the whole team going to sleep for the goal, we were not too bad defensively.

[joel31]

I said that earlier so I am glad I am not the only one who thought so.

Regan, Birraz, Kanta, Goodwin, Burns....all also had good games
and Heskey

[pv4]

Gave the 2 off target passes in 20 minutes and had one blocked shot.

Brown had 6 off target passes in 50 minutes and had one off target shot, plus gave the ball away once more. That wasn't as bad as Virgilli though, he had a honking game. 10 off target passes with 9 successful. Only 3 of those passes were forwards.

Honestly seems we shouldn't be worried about Bridges. But Christ, Burns was positive for us.

Who counted these stats? Because I counted more than double the faults for bridges.

[Jeterpool]

and Heskey

Yes. I agree too. That was my oversight.

[sammydog]

Who counted these stats? Because I counted more than double the faults for bridges.

Your obvious bias and hate of the guy getting in the way of objective stat keeping in an attempt to prove your point?

[GazFish35]

Who counted these stats? Because I counted more than double the faults for bridges.

Opta

[pv4]

Your obvious bias and hate of the guy getting in the way of objective stat keeping in an attempt to prove your point?

While I don't deny a bias and/or hate.. he quite evidently had the ball, then gave the ball to the opposition, each time I updated those posts. Feel free to re-watch and formulate your own set of stats - however I will call BS on these opta stats

[Smeezyy]

While I don't deny a bias and/or hate.. he quite evidently had the ball, then gave the ball to the opposition, each time I updated those posts. Feel free to re-watch and formulate your own set of stats - however I will call BS on these opta stats

Well then you were obviously staring at your computer when he made his completed passes then, hence the stat.

[pv4]

Well then you were obviously staring at your computer when he made his completed passes then, hence the stat.

The stats I had showed more incomplete passes, which I'm saying Opta did not catch.

Your comment makes no sense. Unless you're thinking Opta was staring at their computer when the incomplete passes happened?

[Smeezyy]

The stats I had showed more incomplete passes, which I'm saying Opta did not catch.

Your comment makes no sense. Unless you're thinking Opta was staring at their computer when the incomplete passes happened?

Ask them for a job? Sounds like they need more experts like yourself.

[pv4]

All you Bridges fans need to read (or if you don't have the attention span to read, which wouldn't surprise me as a flick and run to corner flag sends you out of control as is - watch the movie) Moneyball.

Yall are selling jeans, you're looking for the five tools guys. And you've got yourself a Beane as opposed to a Hatte.

All hail Billy James. Ead bridges

[sanchez]

Been back on the forum for a couple of days and this is what I can gather;

- Griffo is back. People should be dancing naked in the streets.

- The number of people who blindly support Bridges despite him offering us nothing on the field (goals, assists or even the hint of a threat) suprisingly has grown as he degresses as a player. There must be some kind of science behind this balance?

(by the way, Bridges is a top bloke and a good clubman from what I can tell - he is just useless to us as a player...which probably means he actually fits well within GVE's player selection criteria)

[MFKS]

Whilst we are bagging the **** can someone enlighten me as to what the **** he was thinking technique wise when he got that shot the other night on the edge of the box that got deflected??

A competent player would put their laces through it. Not this show pony who tried showing off like he was Griffo by toeing it somehow

[My2BobsWorth]

The Big Dog theme's on member, nigh nigh

[pv4]

The Big Dog theme's on member, nigh nigh

You stay classy, bob

[hawk]

Whilst we are bagging the **** can someone enlighten me as to what the **** he was thinking technique wise when he got that shot the other night on the edge of the box that got deflected??

A competent player would put their laces through it. Not this show pony who tried showing off like he was Griffo by toeing it somehow

bridges is a top bloke. i do not wish to discuss game matters though.

[Grimario]

While I don't deny a bias and/or hate.. he quite evidently had the ball, then gave the ball to the opposition, each time I updated those posts. Feel free to re-watch and formulate your own set of stats - however I will call BS on these opta stats

Check the opta stuff for crosses too. And all the other stats like incomplete dribble attempts.