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Tonester
04-03-2015, 09:54 AM
yep, I too know of kids who go to the IFS school that were told to play at kahibah and subsequently with drew from NPL youth comp. But i do know of one who didn't and stayed at his NPL club, nice to see some parents standing up for their kids, but time will tell how it effects his time at the school.

What does playing at IFS get you anyway?What does the perceived pathway lead to?Same as Football NSW's Project 22,jack shit.People should wake up & stop funding these bullshit programmes.

Why Blue
04-03-2015, 10:13 AM
What does playing at IFS get you anyway?What does the perceived pathway lead to?Same as Football NSW's Project 22,jack shit.People should wake up & stop funding these bullshit programmes.

the problem with all of these programs is very simple.................PARENTS. Its a sucker pull for the program organisers, $600 here.............$1000 there but they all promise the same thing, development pathways for your child. Pay me $$$$ and your child will develop.

Gumprecht has a very loyal band of followers, as does Foley, Zane, EJ's, Newcastle, Macquarie & Hunter Football...........the list goes on.

Problem is that these are business's and like all business's with out customers they do not survive. So they continue to take the $$$, continue to tell parents that their child is developing and parents seem happy enough to keep paying, because all kids develop differently !!!!

Cant see it ending, especially now that kids are in development squads at 8 and 9.................will probably only get worse.

GO AWAY
04-03-2015, 10:45 AM
I have never heard of Hunter Sports doing anything similar, i would hope not, with all opens players from that school spread throughout, Jets, Azzuri, Lambton predominately i think ?? But i will stand corrected ???

Why Blue
04-03-2015, 11:33 AM
I have never heard of Hunter Sports doing anything similar, i would hope not, with all opens players from that school spread throughout, Jets, Azzuri, Lambton predominately i think ?? But i will stand corrected ???

Opens ??? do you mean older boys...........senior squad ??

To my knowledge HSH coaching staff have not tried to influence players ( one teacher is a Magic fan and never forgets to mention them )

Obviously Pascoe coaches older boys and Jets Youth.............but not all HSH kids are in Jets Youth nor are all Jets Youth at HSH

They seem happy enough for kids to make their own decisions, not only in football but other sports as well, from what I am told

Sacre Bleu
04-03-2015, 11:53 AM
I think that's being a bit harsh on Kahibah, the IFS and Gumps. I doubt anyone is forced to play for a team, rather the FFA makes it hard for academies of any type to compete without being registered through the association. Linking with a club is the only way to allow those kids that want to play with their schoolmates to get a game. Good luck to them and any academy that tries to develop players. The more competition the better for all. If Emerging Jets had looked after coaches like Gumps and not let junior muppets run the younger EJ program we might have a far better product.

Why Blue
04-03-2015, 12:02 PM
. If Emerging Jets had looked after coaches like Gumps and not let junior muppets run the younger EJ program we might have a far better product.

:whistling::roflz::thumbsup:

Tonester
04-03-2015, 12:12 PM
I think that's being a bit harsh on Kahibah, the IFS and Gumps. I doubt anyone is forced to play for a team, rather the FFA makes it hard for academies of any type to compete without being registered through the association. Linking with a club is the only way to allow those kids that want to play with their schoolmates to get a game. Good luck to them and any academy that tries to develop players. The more competition the better for all. If Emerging Jets had looked after coaches like Gumps and not let junior muppets run the younger EJ program we might have a far better product.
I wouldn't be jumping any hurdles to have my kids fork out pocket loads of cash for no return at any of these trumped up Academies run by questionable big name former players.Ask The Entrance or Woongarrah on the Central Coast re coaching abilities of Gumps & the like!

Beast
04-03-2015, 12:20 PM
FR differant story when Southy engaged this coach last season with his coasty players. Now they have moved to another club they are scum?
With this attitude maybe they made the right decision.

Why Blue
04-03-2015, 12:40 PM
. The more competition the better for all. If Emerging Jets had looked after coaches like Gumps and not let junior muppets run the younger EJ program we might have a far better product.

Ahh yes I remember this time well.....................start of the EJ era. Lots of parents who had invested a lot of time ( and money ) in gumps, running around rallying support.................pushing his barrow to the uneducated..............geez they worked hard.

But we all knew that TD at the time was not a fan...................so was all for nothing.....................well except the big $$$$ they had paid gumps for his expertise

hamburgler
04-03-2015, 12:41 PM
I think that's being a bit harsh on Kahibah, the IFS and Gumps. I doubt anyone is forced to play for a team, rather the FFA makes it hard for academies of any type to compete without being registered through the association. Linking with a club is the only way to allow those kids that want to play with their schoolmates to get a game. Good luck to them and any academy that tries to develop players. The more competition the better for all. If Emerging Jets had looked after coaches like Gumps and not let junior muppets run the younger EJ program we might have a far better product.

I agree with your statement - I understand there was no forcing of kids to play for a certain team, rather they were strongly encouraged by several members of the football coaching staff. This directly from a parent who had a kid at the school and was playing NPL at the time.

Sacre Bleu
04-03-2015, 12:41 PM
Tonester, perhaps you shouldn't ask others but judge for yourself.

Why Blue
04-03-2015, 12:52 PM
I agree with your statement - I understand there was no forcing of kids to play for a certain team, rather they were strongly encouraged by several members of the football coaching staff. This directly from a parent who had a kid at the school and was playing NPL at the time.

so you say had a kid at school and was playing npl ????
when was this..............my understanding is that "encouragement" was only this year since gumps moved to Kahibah and yes "encouraged" is one word

But then from Gump's point........the more the boys play together the stronger they get................problem is why go to NewFM ??? should be encouraging boys to play NPL or higher.......................oh unless the club that pays you is NEWFM

and there is the problem.................they dont really have the kids interest at heart................they are businesses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonester
04-03-2015, 01:04 PM
Tonester, perhaps you shouldn't ask others but judge for yourself.

That doesn't make sense.I don't need to ask any one,you do & everyone else that sponsors these programmes.I know all about these Academies,all the way back to Coerver & the rest.Ripoffs one & all.

Sacre Bleu
04-03-2015, 01:11 PM
Tonester, glad you are an expert on what I do and don't know. Next time I have an opinion I will get you to tell me what it is.

Wild Brew
04-03-2015, 01:58 PM
That doesn't make sense.I don't need to ask any one,you do & everyone else that sponsors these programmes.I know all about these Academies,all the way back to Coerver & the rest.Ripoffs one & all.
Perhaps only those whose kids underachieved would judge it a failure. Academy, NPL or sports school all come at a cost. If you judge success only by going on to a professional career then there are going to be a lot of disappointments. Be it football, music, dancing or academia, parents will want to give their child a chance to excel. Unfortunately most come at a cost, but we all have the option to pay or not. Good luck to those coaches that can make a living out of it, I suspect they can because they have something special to offer. I just wish there were more of them.

Footyhead
04-03-2015, 02:19 PM
Gumprecht coming to Kahibah must be a good thing, politics & opinions aside.
He's better than the muppet EJ "supercoach" with bumfluff still on his face.

Wire Blue, Y Blue, Wild Blue, Sacre Bleu. Wild Brew... will the real Why Blue please stand up, or are you all part of some CCB inner sanctum ?

Why Blue
04-03-2015, 02:25 PM
Gumprecht coming to Kahibah must be a good thing, politics & opinions aside.
He's better than the muppet EJ "supercoach" with bumfluff still on his face.

Wire Blue, Y Blue, Wild Blue, Sacre Bleu. Wild Brew... will the real Why Blue please stand up, or are you all part of some CCB inner sanctum ?

me's suspect that me is the only one with CCB interest.................but certainly not inner sanctum..........that is only 1

as for the rest...........imitation is a form of flattery..................

hamburgler
04-03-2015, 02:32 PM
so you say had a kid at school and was playing npl ????
when was this..............my understanding is that "encouragement" was only this year since gumps moved to Kahibah and yes "encouraged" is one word

But then from Gump's point........the more the boys play together the stronger they get................problem is why go to NewFM ??? should be encouraging boys to play NPL or higher.......................oh unless the club that pays you is NEWFM

and there is the problem.................they dont really have the kids interest at heart................they are businesses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Badly worded, I should have said has a kid at that school. He played NPL last year and has now followed Gumps.

Tonester
04-03-2015, 03:03 PM
Gumps the messiah!Heaven help us.

Quare Caeruleum
04-03-2015, 03:42 PM
me's suspect that me is the only one with CCB interest.................but certainly not inner sanctum..........that is only 1

as for the rest...........imitation is a form of flattery..................
Agree WB, imitation is a form of flattery. Enjoy and respect your opinion and wish you and your CCB the best for the season ahead. Always like a good laugh as I know you do. Hopefully the season will produce strong competition across the board.
PS How's your Latin?

Saint James
04-03-2015, 07:02 PM
I think your forgetting it's only the second year of npl youth for the jaffas,most clubs have long standing youth programs and jaffas gunners maitland are trying to get to the next level it takes time, this year the jaffas have started youth development programs for 10/11/12 ages with good coaches giving I there time also goalkeeping training from first grade keeper swanie , Danny Ireland did the same last year, last year the 17 made the semi and the under 15 just missed out but beat weaton 15 who won the comp the 13 /14 played there hearts out . A new parent to the club took his son out of newcastle development because his son was scared of the man who runs it and didn't want to go to training since joining jaffas he is loving his football and can't wait to play for the jaffas we must be doing something right, and to the Olympic 15 team and coaches, club on and off the field yes you touched up the jaffas but the spirit and style of play is what the game is about and your club show that well done. The u17 npl jaffas side has 7 boys. That started in the under six for the jaffas and have been developed by the club also there are other boys this age playing for other npl clubs that started with the jaffas the club tries to be loyal.

Why Blue
05-03-2015, 09:45 AM
PS How's your Latin?

My latin...............poor

My google skills..................excellent

Im feeling flattered again..............lol

My only worry now is I might know someone smart enough to quote latin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why Blue
05-03-2015, 10:11 AM
I think your forgetting it's only the second year of npl youth for the jaffas,most clubs have long standing youth programs and jaffas gunners maitland are trying to get to the next level it takes time, this year the jaffas have started youth development programs for 10/11/12 ages with good coaches giving I there time also goalkeeping training from first grade keeper swanie , Danny Ireland did the same last year, last year the 17 made the semi and the under 15 just missed out but beat weaton 15 who won the comp the 13 /14 played there hearts out . A new parent to the club took his son out of newcastle development because his son was scared of the man who runs it and didn't want to go to training since joining jaffas he is loving his football and can't wait to play for the jaffas we must be doing something right, and to the Olympic 15 team and coaches, club on and off the field yes you touched up the jaffas but the spirit and style of play is what the game is about and your club show that well done. The u17 npl jaffas side has 7 boys. That started in the under six for the jaffas and have been developed by the club also there are other boys this age playing for other npl clubs that started with the jaffas the club tries to be loyal.

poor old saint...............what you seem to be forgetting is that this is only everyone's 2nd year at NPL Youth !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes some clubs had better junior programs in place than others, Magic, Olympic, Lake Macq City, Weston & Maitland..............others relied heavily on retuning players from academies etc.

From your comments Jaffas must have had some sort of junior program if 7 of current U/17's are from under 6's. ???

As for kid being scared of Richard.................pfffft...........most kids are.............

recently another member on this forum judged CCB 2014 effort of only 1 team in semi's as not acceptable.................I think it is probably fair to say the same for Jaffa's 2014 NPL Youth performance.

But you are right, hats off to Olympic 15's, they play great football and are a credit to their coach and club

Why Blue
05-03-2015, 10:26 AM
The concept of the Emerging Jets is sound, however, many factors have led to it falling short of it's goals. Firstly the quality of coaching, apart from a few exceptions, is poor. This along with some constant changing of coaches for some teams has hampered their development.
Added to this is some questionable player selections, although that will always be a debatable and hard to get right.
Another problem is parental involment. The competition to promote one child ahead of their teammates is far worse with the EJ's.
Perhaps some of the money used to pay salaries of administrators, starting from the top, could be better used on quality coaching.

Ive long stated I'm not a believer in the concept of EJ's as it stands. I believe all players should play NPL and a squad of EJ's should be picked with the view of training and working towards NYC/Nationals etc, but that squad should be transient, not paying $1250 to secure your spot, thats just a club

Coaching is an issue, but from my observations getting better under GVE, he seems to be attracting better quality

Player selections is always questionable..........and always will be.

Parental involvement, was horrendous and bought the whole program down to an almost amateur level. I would hope this has improved, but some little stories still leave me wondering !!! just cause my parent can coach, manage or be a bigger pest don't make me a great player !!!! And you are correct, competition to stay in program is unbelievable, it has been in the past a real dog eat dog environment, kills team spirit, something I believe to be important and something I wanted for my son.

Monies used to pay coach's instead of administrators................:rof::rof::rof: your a funny man..............

Footyhead
05-03-2015, 02:49 PM
Why Blue
Emerging Jets have a well run organisation, have the best coaching staff, have definitley picked the best players, now on the best facility and really there fees should be $3,000 like Football NSW.
Why the negativity!

Yes totally agree, their program should be used as a model for all other academies. Their results at State Championships and the NTC attest for themselves.

The Northern Defender
05-03-2015, 02:58 PM
Ive long stated I'm not a believer in the concept of EJ's as it stands. I believe all players should play NPL and a squad of EJ's should be picked with the view of training and working towards NYC/Nationals etc, but that squad should be transient, not paying $1250 to secure your spot, thats just a club

Coaching is an issue, but from my observations getting better under GVE, he seems to be attracting better quality

Player selections is always questionable..........and always will be.

Parental involvement, was horrendous and bought the whole program down to an almost amateur level. I would hope this has improved, but some little stories still leave me wondering !!! just cause my parent can coach, manage or be a bigger pest don't make me a great player !!!! And you are correct, competition to stay in program is unbelievable, it has been in the past a real dog eat dog environment, kills team spirit, something I believe to be important and something I wanted for my son.

Monies used to pay coach's instead of administrators................:rof::rof::rof: your a funny man..............

Some very good points Why Blue.
The parent comment is very valid and from the outside is a real problem, maybe as big as many of the other issues the program has. When my son plays the EJs this year I hope for the EJ kids sakes that this has been sorted as the pressure has been very obvious in the past.
Still looking to kick their but though! :wink:

(bracing myself now for the "its not a competition comments")

Why Blue
05-03-2015, 03:02 PM
Why Blue
Emerging Jets have a well run organisation, have the best coaching staff, have definitley picked the best players, now on the best facility and really there fees should be $3,000 like Football NSW.
Why the negativity!


must have misunderstood me MT..............no negativity................just offering some impute on how to improve the program..........I know they are listening !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why Blue
05-03-2015, 03:08 PM
Some very good points Why Blue.
The parent comment is very valid and from the outside is a real problem, maybe as big as many of the other issues the program has. When my son plays the EJs this year I hope for the EJ kids sakes that this has been sorted as the pressure has been very obvious in the past.
Still looking to kick their but though! :wink:

(bracing myself now for the "its not a competition comments")

come on now ND..................its development !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but you have hit on very important point that I think few really understand. The pressure put on players by parents is absolutely unbelievable, it seriously inhibits the poor kids and the way they play. That is why I don't like the program, its like these parents decide their kids are superstars and we need to do everything in our power to keep them there. If the kid is as good as they think, then they will shine in NPL, all will be good !!!!

Why Blue
05-03-2015, 03:44 PM
who is listening Why Blue?
Didnt misunderstood WB- trying to find positives in the so called football productionline

you mean no one is listening ????? bugger !!!!!!!!!!

Sacre Bleu
05-03-2015, 05:07 PM
Why Blue
Emerging Jets have a well run organisation, have the best coaching staff, have definitley picked the best players, now on the best facility and really there fees should be $3,000 like Football NSW.
Why the negativity!
Even the coaches wouldn't agree best players picked. Ask Deans about his 14s. As for coaching, certainly some have ability, but as a whole it's sad that anyone might think of them as elite. The junior muppet master in charge!!!-and some bloggers here criticise Gumps!

GO AWAY
06-03-2015, 11:44 AM
Why Blue
Emerging Jets have a well run organisation, have the best coaching staff, have definitley picked the best players, now on the best facility and really there fees should be $3,000 like Football NSW.
Why the negativity!

Missed most this forum, but surely this is Sarcasm, if not MT, is Watt ST still open ?????

Why Blue
06-03-2015, 12:47 PM
Watt street........bad memories

Why Blue
06-03-2015, 02:29 PM
Good luck to all NPL youth teams this weekend
First round, hope you all play well and enjoy yourselves
It will be a long season remember it won't be won this week end or even this round !!!!!

Have fun gents

Sacre Bleu
06-03-2015, 03:39 PM
Good luck to all NPL youth teams this weekend
First round, hope you all play well and enjoy yourselves
It will be a long season remember it won't be won this week end or even this round !!!!!

Have fun gents
Et tu WB,
"carpe diem"
QC
"profiter du présent"
Sacre

Newsfeed
07-03-2015, 04:37 PM
17s 2-1 weston
15s 2-1 weston
14s 2-1 broadmeadow
13s 4-0 broadmeadow

football_macigian23
08-03-2015, 01:30 PM
17s 2-1 weston
15s 2-1 weston
14s 2-1 broadmeadow
13s 4-0 broadmeadow

Magic 13s too good for Weston and they played shocking in the first half.. 14s Fairly even game, weston had a 1 on 1 last kick off the game and hit it straight at the keeper, if you shut down Magic's #9 and the kid with long blonde hair in the CM they don't have too much going forward.
15s - Weston decided to long ball all day and stacked the defence when Magic had the ball, credit to them! Winning goal game from a keeper mistake, came out of his box to get the ball, striker beat him to it and they chipped him.
Didn't see any of 17s

football_macigian23
08-03-2015, 05:48 PM
FMNC vs Olympic;
13s - 4-0 FMNC
14s - 2-0 FMNC
15s - 1-1
17s - 1-0 Olympic HT

late_to_the_game
08-03-2015, 07:12 PM
Adamstown vs CCB
13 5-3 CCB
14 2-2
15 4-0 CCB
17 1-0 Adamstown

TimeAddedOn
08-03-2015, 08:53 PM
Saw the Magic v Weston 17's game. It was reasonably even though Magic maybe had a slight edge. Magic missed a penalty right on half time. Poor discipline probably cost Magic. 4 yellow cards in the first half and a player finally sent off with a minute or so to go for a second card.

Maitland 17's fell foul of the new heat rules against the Jets today. Pitch temp was apparently 47 degrees at 2.30. 15 above air temp. Perhaps best for both sides the game was called off.

I changed my user name
08-03-2015, 09:45 PM
Wow pitch temperature was 47 degrees . You have to loom after this kids and i think although annoying for all involved is without doubt the right decision .

What is everyone's view on that new rule ?

MFKS
08-03-2015, 10:13 PM
Wow pitch temperature was 47 degrees . You have to loom after this kids and i think although annoying for all involved is without doubt the right decision .

What is everyone's view on that new rule ?

I would have thought the EJ's home games would have been best scheduled in the dead of Winter at Speers Point when the chance of wash outs is high.
The chances of wash outs this time of year is slim so use the grass fields

Why Blue
09-03-2015, 06:50 AM
Wow pitch temperature was 47 degrees . You have to loom after this kids and i think although annoying for all involved is without doubt the right decision .

What is everyone's view on that new rule ?

Why cant they use grass pitch ??? with all the whining from NNSWF about cost to maintain the synthetic surface I would have thought it common sense to schedule EJ games on grass pitches and xfer to synthetic if wet. Plus this would be fairer to teams coming to facility once a year. No doubt surface is different and takes a little while to get used to, massive advantage to train on it 3 nights then play on it.

Local Rules
09-03-2015, 09:14 AM
Why Blue
exactly right, 30 degree day, game gets cancelled and becomes a wash out??
embarrassing, when there is a full grass pitch 20 meteres away to be used, Maitland should push the EJets for a forfiet, cand claim the 3 points

So does this fixture now become a 6 point game in the second round or have they changed the stupid rule to actually play washouts in this level this year. As it involves the EJ's watch for the rule to be ignored if it is still in place

TimeAddedOn
09-03-2015, 10:59 AM
Kids were told it would be a 6 point second round game. Will have to wait and see i guess.

The Northern Defender
09-03-2015, 11:16 AM
FMNC vs Olympic;
13s - 4-0 FMNC
14s - 2-0 FMNC
15s - 1-1
17s - 1-0 Olympic HT

Olympic ended up winning 17s 5-0. They looked sharp and have started the season well.

Why Blue
10-03-2015, 03:59 PM
Why Blue
exactly right, 30 degree day, game gets cancelled and becomes a wash out??
embarrassing, when there is a full grass pitch 20 meteres away to be used, Maitland should push the EJets for a forfiet, cand claim the 3 points

My understanding is that grass pitch was offered by jets
Maitland declined ???
Teams had warmed up and were ready to play

TimeAddedOn
10-03-2015, 10:26 PM
Not sure about the grass pitch story. Had a look when driving out and it didn't really look ready to play on. Grass was long and didnt appear to be fully marked.

Why Blue
11-03-2015, 07:39 AM
Not sure about the grass pitch story. Had a look when driving out and it didn't really look ready to play on. Grass was long and didnt appear to be fully marked.

Pitch is marked and yes grass was probs a bit longer than desirable , but is trained on most nights so can't be to bad

I can't see it would be any worse than pitches maitland would have played on last year in A grade
I am still hearing EJ's wanted to play but maitland were gone!!!!!!

Should have been played !!!!!

MFKS
11-03-2015, 08:02 AM
Pitch is marked and yes grass was probs a bit longer than desirable , but is trained on most nights so can't be to bad

I can't see it would be any worse than pitches maitland would have played on last year in A grade
I am still hearing EJ's wanted to play but maitland were gone!!!!!!

Should have been played !!!!!

That's pretty form of Maitland if true.

If the chance is there to play the game it should be played. Not called off due to the attitude of one side.

Bremsstrahlung
11-03-2015, 09:09 AM
imo, in this situation, if all the accounts are correct:

Game scheduled for NNSW Facility Speers Point.
Emerging Jets Home game.
Too hot, game can't be played on it. Fair call.
EJ offer another ground for the game.
If Maitland refuse, they should need to provide a venue/propose a replay* or forfeit the match.


*What a load of shit NPL Youth don't reschedule matches. Farce if ever I have seen one. If 12G can reschedule matches...surely our "Elite" Junior competition can reschedule some matches, especially with the new facility, it should make it easy as.

Thomas477
11-03-2015, 09:27 AM
Tbf, the non-NPL juniors aren't scheduled to play almost every week for 18 weeks. There's also redundancies built into the juniors seasons to allow for wash outs, like weeks off. You also don't have the field being used both days like NPL would with the juniors and seniors. Pitch standard is also another thing the NPL needs to consider, that's far less of an issue with junior games.

Or maybe all washout games could be played at Speers Point midweek? Don't need to worry about pitch quality there.

onthebench
11-03-2015, 11:43 AM
Also does not mean best kids in NPL either.
Take my hat off to clubs supporting playeers through development but some clubs politics play a role here.
Ie witnessed Sth Cardiff v maitland 17s last Sunday...amazed to see what looked like a 12 or 13 year old on the field for Southy....he's not able to compete due to size etc and does not have the talent to make up the difference so why is the club persisting with his selection at the expense of a player who can compete? There will be many many players in New FM comp
With higher abilities.
Seems a common scenario in Newy football.

Totally agree with you, went to a few trials this year for junior NPL , saw a lot of talented kids get rejected over kids with less talant , then you hear in the back ground so and knows the coach , his son goes to school with him, its the coaches son etc , its a shame lots of talented kids getting overlooked becuse of this

Why Blue
11-03-2015, 12:51 PM
Totally agree with you, went to a few trials this year for junior NPL , saw a lot of talented kids get rejected over kids with less talant , then you hear in the back ground so and knows the coach , his son goes to school with him, its the coaches son etc , its a shame lots of talented kids getting overlooked becuse of this

Really ??? So what you are saying is that clubs/coaches bypassed more talented kids because of a personal reason.???????
Well maybe........perhaps they do know a kid and know his abilities over a time period.

But I believe most every club would pick the talant on offer.

Hard to imagine real talant being overlooked by more than one club

Footyhead
11-03-2015, 01:53 PM
Totally agree with you, went to a few trials this year for junior NPL , saw a lot of talented kids get rejected over kids with less talant , then you hear in the back ground so and knows the coach , his son goes to school with him, its the coaches son etc , its a shame lots of talented kids getting overlooked becuse of this

Please name the trials you went to

late_to_the_game
11-03-2015, 02:45 PM
Really ??? So what you are saying is that clubs/coaches bypassed more talented kids because of a personal reason.???????
Well maybe........perhaps they do know a kid and know his abilities over a time period.

But I believe most every club would pick the talant on offer.

Hard to imagine real talant being overlooked by more than one club


In the 17s this year, if you had the abiliy you would have found a club. The standard of trialists was below what it was last year. This may have been in part due to some boys opting to play Newfm 17s with their home club.

Having said that, Adamstown 17s picked up a boy who could not make the Cooks Hill 17s, and he is working out great.
Ultimately everyone needs to remember team selection is all about opinions.

Why Blue
11-03-2015, 04:55 PM
Please name the trials you went to

Yes by not naming you implicate all clubs
Name the clubs and age lets see if others can add some input as to possible reasons

Why Blue
11-03-2015, 04:58 PM
In the 17s this year, if you had the abiliy you would have found a club. The standard of trialists was below what it was last year. This may have been in part due to some boys opting to play Newfm 17s with their home club.

Having said that, Adamstown 17s picked up a boy who could not make the Cooks Hill 17s, and he is working out great.
Ultimately everyone needs to remember team selection is all about opinions.

Correct selections are subjective

Kid missing cooks hill and getting a gig at buds proves this
Hence my comment that I don't believe several clubs would overlook talant

late_to_the_game
11-03-2015, 08:41 PM
Agree.

onthebench
12-03-2015, 11:35 AM
South Cardiff, Adamstown , Charlestown , ages 15s and 17s , many other people at the trials witnessed this as well , some people even spoke to the selestors about this , they were not the parants of the children not selected , just surprised in what they witnessed , i agree some kids have a bad day and not trial well and get in by reputation .

Footyhead
12-03-2015, 11:47 AM
South Cardiff, Adamstown , Charlestown , ages 15s and 17s , many other people at the trials witnessed this as well , some people even spoke to the selestors about this , they were not the parants of the children not selected , just surprised in what they witnessed , i agree some kids have a bad day and not trial well and get in by reputation .

:popcorn:

Go for it WB and FR...

Why Blue
12-03-2015, 12:46 PM
South Cardiff, Adamstown , Charlestown , ages 15s and 17s , many other people at the trials witnessed this as well , some people even spoke to the selestors about this , they were not the parants of the children not selected , just surprised in what they witnessed , i agree some kids have a bad day and not trial well and get in by reputation .

Ok.... Can only talk of situation at CCB but here goes
Did you contact coach prior ??? At CCB all coaches mobiles were on website months prior. The purpose of this was to encourage contact prior to trails, tell the coach about your kid, current club, highest level played, position etc.
did your child have previouse NPL experience ?? If so chances are coach would have some memory of him so would draw from that
Also As I have discussed previously a number of existing players are offered positions prior to trials. To secure them these positions are offered based on player performance, attitude , training etc over the previous season
CCB were no different kids were offered and accepted positions so number if spots maybe as in our case 6 not 16 as you may have thought

Also pick your mark CCB 15's is a pretty good team, U/14 grand final winners so competition for spots was hot
But as I said previously I can't believe three clubs overlooked your child's ability and development potential ???

late_to_the_game
12-03-2015, 01:46 PM
So from the Adamstown perspective, 15s decided to keep the majority of the 14s team prior to trials as the coaches believed the kids had either the skills required or the potential to develop. This was also partial recognition of the boys who kept trying hard all year despite being near the bottom of the table. So in the end I think there were only about 4 places available.

The 17s offered places to all the boys from the previous years team who were still elligible age wise. Of those 4 are in the 19s team, 1 at CCB 19s, 1 Central coast 18s team in the Sydney comp, one playing local league. Leaving 4 who stayed in the 17s. Added to that 2 boys from last years 15s. So we have 8 who have come from other clubs. CCB, Lake Macquarie, Adamstown Juniors 17A's and so on.

If you want to PM me I will have a look at your kid give you my opinion on what he needs to improve to make an NPL squad.

Why Blue
12-03-2015, 02:05 PM
If you want to PM me I will have a look at your kid give you my opinion on what he needs to improve to make an NPL squad.

Generous offer, I would accept if you really want some independent advice
I would also extend same, especially for U/15 as this is were I have most knowledge

onthebench
12-03-2015, 02:13 PM
Ok.... Can only talk of situation at CCB but here goes
Did you contact coach prior ??? At CCB all coaches mobiles were on website months prior. The purpose of this was to encourage contact prior to trails, tell the coach about your kid, current club, highest level played, position etc.
did your child have previouse NPL experience ?? If so chances are coach would have some memory of him so would draw from that
Also As I have discussed previously a number of existing players are offered positions prior to trials. To secure them these positions are offered based on player performance, attitude , training etc over the previous season
CCB were no different kids were offered and accepted positions so number if spots maybe as in our case 6 not 16 as you may have thought

Also pick your mark CCB 15's is a pretty good team, U/14 grand final winners so competition for spots was hot
But as I said previously I can't believe three clubs overlooked your child's ability and development potential ???

Thanks Why Blue for clearing that up , I understand how dificult it is to get teams selected , and what type of players you are looking for .

onthebench
12-03-2015, 02:20 PM
So from the Adamstown perspective, 15s decided to keep the majority of the 14s team prior to trials as the coaches believed the kids had either the skills required or the potential to develop. This was also partial recognition of the boys who kept trying hard all year despite being near the bottom of the table. So in the end I think there were only about 4 places available.

The 17s offered places to all the boys from the previous years team who were still elligible age wise. Of those 4 are in the 19s team, 1 at CCB 19s, 1 Central coast 18s team in the Sydney comp, one playing local league. Leaving 4 who stayed in the 17s. Added to that 2 boys from last years 15s. So we have 8 who have come from other clubs. CCB, Lake Macquarie, Adamstown Juniors 17A's and so on.

If you want to PM me I will have a look at your kid give you my opinion on what he needs to improve to make an NPL squad.

Thanks for the offer , but he is doing fine .

The Northern Defender
12-03-2015, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the offer , but he is doing fine .

Great to hear that he is all good and hopefully he has a great year and enjoys his football (which is the main thing).
Trials can be the source of much gossip and there are often many conspiracy theories around but like every parent you just hope that your child gets a good even chance like everyone else.
In many cases it is hard from the parents perspective to really know how many positions are available and I think the insight provided from Adamstown and CCB shows that.
Hopefully he comes back next year and gets a spot.

Why Blue
12-03-2015, 03:00 PM
Thanks Why Blue for clearing that up , I understand how dificult it is to get teams selected , and what type of players you are looking for .

No probs
I know trial time is stressful you find yourself second guessing and looking at kids comparing etc

But glad to hear your boy is ok, his time may still be coming. We have all heard the different levels of development story, just make sure he gets good coaching
Maybe watch some NPL this year and see the level it is played at, look at all teams and see how they play, what style etc does it suit your son ???
And as I said pick your mark, it is hard to imagine a top NPL club picking an A grade player, he would really have to shine in trial and by 15/17 most players are known

Best of luck

onthebench
12-03-2015, 03:29 PM
No probs
I know trial time is stressful you find yourself second guessing and looking at kids comparing etc

But glad to hear your boy is ok, his time may still be coming. We have all heard the different levels of development story, just make sure he gets good coaching
Maybe watch some NPL this year and see the level it is played at, look at all teams and see how they play, what style etc does it suit your son ???
And as I said pick your mark, it is hard to imagine a top NPL club picking an A grade player, he would really have to shine in trial and by 15/17 most players are known

Best of luck

Thanks , know all about the NPL and the level its played at , have been in it the last 2 years and again this year , good luck at CCB .

Footyhead
13-03-2015, 02:39 PM
Thanks , know all about the NPL and the level its played at , have been in it the last 2 years and again this year , good luck at CCB .

Excellent, although NPL only started last year...

late_to_the_game
15-03-2015, 06:49 PM
Good day for the Buds, first time the club has won all four games in a competition round!

18-4 combined result over Southy.

Why Blue
16-03-2015, 09:55 AM
Good day for the Buds, first time the club has won all four games in a competition round!

18-4 combined result over Southy.

Well done on all four game win....................nice

Don't know what to think about southy ??? when we played them I thought they were much improved over 2014 squad, but then again we played buds last week and they were also a much improved squad

Probably just confirms that all squads have improved and comp will be tough.................................good

late_to_the_game
16-03-2015, 08:34 PM
In the 17s we drew in our trial with them. We played much better yesterday, but Southy were not far off.

Footyhead
17-03-2015, 07:59 AM
In the 17s we drew in our trial with them. We played much better yesterday, but Southy were not far off.

So you're at Adamstown not Merewether now ?

late_to_the_game
17-03-2015, 09:26 PM
If you read all my posts you will work it out. I am a little busy this year.

Wild Brew
19-03-2015, 10:56 PM
Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

Why Blue
20-03-2015, 07:36 AM
Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

have been hearing that sometimes things are not as magical as they first seem. Is the EJ a player or spectator ???

Sacre Bleu
20-03-2015, 08:29 AM
I heard about the disgruntled midfielder from one of the undefeated teams but not sure who the EJ player is.

Why Blue
20-03-2015, 08:58 AM
I heard about the disgruntled midfielder from one of the undefeated teams but not sure who the EJ player is.

leaving the 14 jets out, there are only three undefeated teams in 15's................hope its not CCB

I had heard gossip of one midfielder stating he wished he had gone to another club.............but he is from a team that has been beaten...........

but in all seriousness how can this happen ???? players are committed to their clubs and EJ's .......what club would take them ???

Bremsstrahlung
20-03-2015, 09:30 AM
Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

Why Blue
20-03-2015, 09:53 AM
Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

don't think it will make the back page !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

obviously means nothing to you.......................probably wont greatly effect my life................just something to discuss, that's all

ForeverRed
20-03-2015, 10:27 AM
Mum and dad chasing more win bonus 😀😀

The Northern Defender
20-03-2015, 02:42 PM
Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

LOL- probably be a good news story compared to the football we are currently reading about in the Herald.

Bremsstrahlung
20-03-2015, 04:38 PM
I just find it funny the way these kids are being spoken about. Like, it's not a bad thing i guess, it's good we have this elite pathway and their exposure to the public. But it's also important to remember these kids are being shaped not only as footballers, but also as young men.

Majority of the players i played with were all pretty down to earth, talented guys. There was the odd tall-poppy syndrome, who always thought they deserved more and were unwilling to earn it. They left for those greener pastures, and continually move on to different clubs.

To start this business early on is detrimental to their character, reputation and their general life attitude. My first year of Senior Football, we got beaten every game bar 2 (1 draw and a win in the final game). The previous year, i had filled in for IDs at my junior club, and their coach had moved on to coach NBN First grade, so was willing to give me a crack, and the President of Junior club also had connections at another NBN club and gave me the choice. He consulted me again a few games into the season asking if I wanted to switch (the other club were in top 4) as he could "get me in". To me, there wasn't really a choice. I was committed to the team, I strived to work hard and try and better myself and my team mates. We had fun, but i learnt so much more by losing the games I did and playing against better opposition than i would have if i'd have jumped ship.

What message does it send to the younger players when if something doesn't work out, just take the easy option. Like seriously, if you get dropped, work your ass off to get back into the starting team. If an area of your game is costing you, ask your coach how you can improve. If the team is losing games, be the player that helps them win. Or strive to be promoted up to other age groups. If I was coaching a club, looking for players for the future, yeh sure, maybe you'd get 2-3 of these players that think they deserve the world, but i'd want committed and loyal players that i know would give their best and not give up.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.

Footyhead
20-03-2015, 04:58 PM
[QUOTE=.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.[/QUOTE]

Times have changed, and you make some good points, but there's always going to be those that think they're better, or don't fit in, or there's some other reason for wanting to change.
Not knowing all the circumstances, it must be hard for the kids to swap teams, will there be animosity when they play against their former team, or within their new team and if they're potentially pushing out some other kids already in there. The clubs, coaches and management must take responsibility as well, treating the NPL youth like English Premier League whereas they should be supporting their players.
Some stories I've heard of kids "scrambling" to make an NPL team when they miss out on other one is ridiculous. Dog eat dog.

late_to_the_game
20-03-2015, 09:03 PM
The real issue here is the club that is prepared to take them in and kick someone else out. If this does not happen most likely they will stay where they are.

The only other option is that some clubs have not completely filled their squads this year. Adamstown have generally decided on a squads of 14 for each grade, although some do now have 15. The idea is more game time and more opportunity for younger players to fill in playing up. Max is 16 for any that do not know.

Y Bloo?
21-03-2015, 05:29 PM
Watching CCB and Maitland today and was surprised by Maitlands win in the 15s. Seems the talk of unrest at the Blues has some merit.

prawnhead
21-03-2015, 08:57 PM
Looking forward to the article in The Herald.

Haha

prawnhead
21-03-2015, 09:00 PM
Mum and dad chasing more win bonus ����

Haha again...

prawnhead
21-03-2015, 09:16 PM
FFS yourself..............why cant Youth have same banter as senior ??????

its just a bit of fun.................FFS

Because they are young boys learning the game.

JCBT
21-03-2015, 10:03 PM
I just find it funny the way these kids are being spoken about. Like, it's not a bad thing i guess, it's good we have this elite pathway and their exposure to the public. But it's also important to remember these kids are being shaped not only as footballers, but also as young men.

Majority of the players i played with were all pretty down to earth, talented guys. There was the odd tall-poppy syndrome, who always thought they deserved more and were unwilling to earn it. They left for those greener pastures, and continually move on to different clubs.

To start this business early on is detrimental to their character, reputation and their general life attitude. My first year of Senior Football, we got beaten every game bar 2 (1 draw and a win in the final game). The previous year, i had filled in for IDs at my junior club, and their coach had moved on to coach NBN First grade, so was willing to give me a crack, and the President of Junior club also had connections at another NBN club and gave me the choice. He consulted me again a few games into the season asking if I wanted to switch (the other club were in top 4) as he could "get me in". To me, there wasn't really a choice. I was committed to the team, I strived to work hard and try and better myself and my team mates. We had fun, but i learnt so much more by losing the games I did and playing against better opposition than i would have if i'd have jumped ship.

What message does it send to the younger players when if something doesn't work out, just take the easy option. Like seriously, if you get dropped, work your ass off to get back into the starting team. If an area of your game is costing you, ask your coach how you can improve. If the team is losing games, be the player that helps them win. Or strive to be promoted up to other age groups. If I was coaching a club, looking for players for the future, yeh sure, maybe you'd get 2-3 of these players that think they deserve the world, but i'd want committed and loyal players that i know would give their best and not give up.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.
Great Post

Why Blue
23-03-2015, 07:06 AM
I just find it funny the way these kids are being spoken about. Like, it's not a bad thing i guess, it's good we have this elite pathway and their exposure to the public. But it's also important to remember these kids are being shaped not only as footballers, but also as young men.

Majority of the players i played with were all pretty down to earth, talented guys. There was the odd tall-poppy syndrome, who always thought they deserved more and were unwilling to earn it. They left for those greener pastures, and continually move on to different clubs.

To start this business early on is detrimental to their character, reputation and their general life attitude. My first year of Senior Football, we got beaten every game bar 2 (1 draw and a win in the final game). The previous year, i had filled in for IDs at my junior club, and their coach had moved on to coach NBN First grade, so was willing to give me a crack, and the President of Junior club also had connections at another NBN club and gave me the choice. He consulted me again a few games into the season asking if I wanted to switch (the other club were in top 4) as he could "get me in". To me, there wasn't really a choice. I was committed to the team, I strived to work hard and try and better myself and my team mates. We had fun, but i learnt so much more by losing the games I did and playing against better opposition than i would have if i'd have jumped ship.

What message does it send to the younger players when if something doesn't work out, just take the easy option. Like seriously, if you get dropped, work your ass off to get back into the starting team. If an area of your game is costing you, ask your coach how you can improve. If the team is losing games, be the player that helps them win. Or strive to be promoted up to other age groups. If I was coaching a club, looking for players for the future, yeh sure, maybe you'd get 2-3 of these players that think they deserve the world, but i'd want committed and loyal players that i know would give their best and not give up.


I guess the game is changing and you've got to play the game, to play the game, so to speak. Each to their own.

im not disagreeing with you, or am I saying I agree with what goes on, but it goes on and we have to accept it or get left behind.

Its 2015 now

Why Blue
23-03-2015, 07:07 AM
Because they are young boys learning the game.

jeeeze been waiting since October to bring that out ???

Why Blue
23-03-2015, 07:10 AM
Watching CCB and Maitland today and was surprised by Maitlands win in the 15s. Seems the talk of unrest at the Blues has some merit.

maybe there is..................team certainly played well below thier best and what they and the coach would normally expect from them

Why Blue
23-03-2015, 07:11 AM
Mum and dad chasing more win bonus ����

very sad attitude !!!!!!!!

ForeverRed
23-03-2015, 07:42 AM
Watching CCB and Maitland today and was surprised by Maitlands win in the 15s. Seems the talk of unrest at the Blues has some merit.
How can you have unrest in an u15 team, ridiculous, the only unrest is from mum and dad

Footyhead
23-03-2015, 07:45 AM
How can you have unrest in an u15 team, ridiculous, the only unrest is from mum and dad

True dat. 14 yo boys don't give a shit about anything.

The Northern Defender
23-03-2015, 11:12 AM
Mum and dad chasing more win bonus ����

Would definitely love some of that win bonus!

But you are all right in saying that sometimes these kids get treated (and act) like they are superstars but a good parent and coach should manage this.

As I say to the parents of my u/8 side- its not all about the football.

Jardelsimage
23-03-2015, 12:32 PM
Has the comp started yet? if so, how about some results published then, instead of the other dribble being posted.

The Magician
23-03-2015, 01:21 PM
Has the comp started yet? if so, how about some results published then, instead of the other dribble being posted.

I suppose we could if the clubs pulled their fingers out and updated their results... some results weren't in last week till thursday? what a joke.

late_to_the_game
23-03-2015, 01:30 PM
In the 17s four unbeaten teams at the moment:
Weston, Adamstown, Hamilton and the EJets.

Footyhead
23-03-2015, 01:36 PM
Has the comp started yet? if so, how about some results published then, instead of the other dribble being posted.

All the results are up now from what I can see
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-10182-0-326894-0&a=ROUND

Footyhead
23-03-2015, 05:04 PM
I suppose we could if the clubs pulled their fingers out and updated their results... some results weren't in last week till thursday? what a joke.

The upkeep of the NNSW website is absolutely pathetic for up to date news & info source. All they do is spit out feel good shit about themselves. You find out more on this forum.

Y Bloo?
23-03-2015, 06:00 PM
What about all the silence halfway through a tournament when the NNSWF teams aren't winning. Can't find results for love nor money.

Footyhead
23-03-2015, 07:00 PM
What about all the silence halfway through a tournament when the NNSWF teams aren't winning. Can't find results for love nor money.

They've been quiet on that front for a number of years

Why Blue
26-03-2015, 11:14 AM
Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

well a week down and no players seemed to have moved on..................it seems as though sanity has prevailed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

hamburgler
26-03-2015, 11:53 AM
why blue are you worried?

Why would WB be worried? CCB 15s will have a successful year this year, despite last week's loss to Maitland

Why Blue
26-03-2015, 11:57 AM
why blue are you worried?

MT where have you been ??????

Why Blue
26-03-2015, 12:00 PM
Cheesburgler- loss to Maitland??
i would be worried, especially when players walk off crying!

Maitland played well.................CCB played.................crap...............you get beat if you play crap

was not good seeing poor kid crying............maybe too much pressure ???

Why Blue
26-03-2015, 12:01 PM
preparing for easter

really................suppose its a busy time for you .................

hamburgler
26-03-2015, 02:56 PM
Cheesburgler- loss to Maitland??
i would be worried, especially when players walk off crying!

My mistake MT, of course Maitland.

Is it the coach, club , teammates or parents (or a combination of some or all), that causes 15 year olds to be under that much pressure they cry when they lose. Not a healthy environment to be in IMO.

Why Blue
26-03-2015, 03:15 PM
Is it the coach, club , teammates or parents (or a combination of some or all), that causes 15 year olds to be under that much pressure they cry when they lose. Not a healthy environment to be in IMO.

normally I would agree, probably parental influence, but in this case i think the poor kid just put too much on himself. New to team, had been scoring goals, missed a couple, felt like he let team down.
but I can tell you the team all got behind him, he turned up at training this week all smiles and banging goals in............so look out MNC...........this kid could be anything............

Wire Blew
26-03-2015, 04:36 PM
normally I would agree, probably parental influence, but in this case i think the poor kid just put too much on himself. New to team, had been scoring goals, missed a couple, felt like he let team down.
but I can tell you the team all got behind him, he turned up at training this week all smiles and banging goals in............so look out MNC...........this kid could be anything............
Could be anything? A good rap from a good judge. Where did he come from?

Doggydingo
26-03-2015, 06:24 PM
normally I would agree, probably parental influence, but in this case i think the poor kid just put too much on himself. New to team, had been scoring goals, missed a couple, felt like he let team down.
but I can tell you the team all got behind him, he turned up at training this week all smiles and banging goals in............so look out MNC...........this kid could be anything............

Cmon MNC

Wild Brew
26-03-2015, 06:49 PM
Cmon MNC
Cmon DoggyStyle. It's FMNC!! Get it right Ernie.

Why Blue
27-03-2015, 10:38 AM
WB If you believe that!

Maybe, just maybe- the super team ,- have failed to coach there players how to lose?
But crying at 15 because you lost ? wow

MT i think your looking for something that isn't there!!!!!...........this kid is new to team came from a team that had experienced a few losses, just wanted to do well thats all.....all will be ok

besides..........why would you coach your team on how to lose ????????????????

Why Blue
27-03-2015, 10:42 AM
Could be anything? A good rap from a good judge. Where did he come from?

he came across from Rosebuds so had some expose to NPL there, but i believe prior to that he was a distance runner who played a bit of lower grade soccer.

I like the way he play's, he has good perception, good on the ball and knows his way to the goal...............and fast. With some good coaching and exposure to some better players around him I think he will improve...............rough'y for Jets U/16's..............

Wild Brew
27-03-2015, 01:14 PM
he came across from Rosebuds so had some expose to NPL there, but i believe prior to that he was a distance runner who played a bit of lower grade soccer.

I like the way he play's, he has good perception, good on the ball and knows his way to the goal...............and fast. With some good coaching and exposure to some better players around him I think he will improve...............rough'y for Jets U/16's..............

Always an interesting debate - Turning a good athlete into a good footballer versus turning a good ballplayer into an athlete.
Todays game you really need to be both, but if genetically you aren't gifted you better be bloody good on the ball and will be limited to what positions you can play.

Why Blue
27-03-2015, 02:32 PM
Always an interesting debate - Turning a good athlete into a good footballer versus turning a good ballplayer into an athlete.
Todays game you really need to be both, but if genetically you aren't gifted you better be bloody good on the ball and will be limited to what positions you can play.

Youth players need to be athletes these days, they need to be strong, fast and fit. The 2,5,7,11's are expected to run all game, the 6, 8 & 10 never stand still. 3 & 4 are expected to push forward and then recover back, players need to be athletes. So much time is spent on core & strength and I believe most clubs have adopted the FIFA 11+ injury prevention and strengthening program.

and i didn't forget the 9, but hell, we just want them to bang goals in.....................nothing to complicated !!!!!!!

Doggydingo
27-03-2015, 05:18 PM
Cmon DoggyStyle. It's FMNC!! Get it right Ernie.

LOL, Ill see you Wild Brew in Kempsey!

prawnhead
27-03-2015, 06:37 PM
Youth players need to be athletes these days, they need to be strong, fast and fit. The 2,5,7,11's are expected to run all game, the 6, 8 & 10 never stand still. 3 & 4 are expected to push forward and then recover back, players need to be athletes. So much time is spent on core & strength and I believe most clubs have adopted the FIFA 11+ injury prevention and strengthening program.

and i didn't forget the 9, but hell, we just want them to bang goals in.....................nothing to complicated !!!!!!!

Your knowledge is amazing. CCB are certainly lucky to have you on board. Cheers to a great season mate!!

Wild Brew
27-03-2015, 06:38 PM
LOL, Ill see you Wild Brew in Kempsey!

Don't hold your breath Dodgy, I got better things to do on Sunday. Good luck anyway and drink responsibly.

Why Blue
27-03-2015, 08:59 PM
Your knowledge is amazing. CCB are certainly lucky to have you on board. Cheers to a great season mate!!

Seriously !!!
Anyone who knows me knows I have very limited knowledge of this game and what I stated is really pretty basic stuff
So either you PH know less about this game then me ??? Or your just a shit stirrer ????
So which is it ???
My guess is the 2nd

Sacre Bleu
27-03-2015, 10:25 PM
Seriously !!!
Anyone who knows me knows I have very limited knowledge of this game and what I stated is really pretty basic stuff
So either you PH know less about this game then me ??? Or your just a shit stirrer ????
So which is it ???
My guess is the 2nd
If it walks like a duck and talks luck a duck it probably is a s*#t stirrer. Let's stick to footy. What about tips for the weekend? Jaffas and Southy to continue to show improvement and the EJ'S to struggle against the bye.

Quare Caeruleum
27-03-2015, 10:51 PM
FMNC to be tough up at Port. Possible tears forecast.

Premy
28-03-2015, 06:28 AM
Just popped my head in here for a quick look.

Some of you blokes need to have a good hard look at yourselves, 15 year olds can read and do have access to the Internet.
Some of the stuff on here is borderline cyber bullying wake up to yourselves you are the ones who are ment to be adults.

Wire Blew
28-03-2015, 08:37 AM
Seriously !!!
Anyone who knows me knows I have very limited knowledge of this game and what I stated is really pretty basic stuff
So either you PH know less about this game then me ??? Or your just a shit stirrer ????
So which is it ???
My guess is the 2nd


Just popped my head in here for a quick look.

Some of you blokes need to have a good hard look at yourselves, 15 year olds can read and do have access to the Internet.
Some of the stuff on here is borderline cyber bullying wake up to yourselves you are the ones who are ment to be adults.
Have you ever seen what 15 year olds text each other? But I get your point.

football_macigian23
28-03-2015, 02:52 PM
Magic vs Jaffas result so far
13s 6-1 Magic
14s 2-0 Magic
15s 7-1 Magic

MFKS
28-03-2015, 03:34 PM
Magic vs Jaffas result so far
13s 6-1 Magic
14s 2-0 Magic
15s 7-1 Magic

Magic that good or Jaffas that poor??

The 14s is at least a respectable score but the other two seem like a huge gulf in class

football_macigian23
28-03-2015, 04:25 PM
Magic that good or Jaffas that poor??

The 14s is at least a respectable score but the other two seem like a huge gulf in class

Jaffas really poor! Besides 14s they don't have much to offer really.. And from what I've heard with a parent (who actually doesn't have a club) managing one of the sides and coaching the goalkeepers I can see why the results are like that
17s 4-0 Magic HT

ForeverRed
28-03-2015, 05:43 PM
Probably don't have much to offer because when certain clubs scratch and fight for every best kid in newcastle so they can win trophys and fail to develop their own then this will always happen, clubs signing entire rep sides doesn't help either

Quare Caeruleum
28-03-2015, 06:12 PM
Probably don't have much to offer because when certain clubs scratch and fight for every best kid in newcastle so they can win trophys and fail to develop their own then this will always happen, clubs signing entire rep sides doesn't help either
With players coming from as far as the central coast, Port Stephens and Cessnock to compete at a higher level it would be hard to ignore them and only concentrate on home grown juniors. Playing for any of the multitude of non NPL clubs as a junior should not be a barrier to chasing stronger competition at an NPL club.
As far as I know these juniors only want to play with mates, get the best coaching or just fit in a team that has room for them. Despite conspiracy theories I think good luck to any club that can offer to develop a player wherever he came from.

Jardelsimage
28-03-2015, 07:09 PM
Again the sthy centre if excellence. Talking out of his ass. How many sthy juniors in your team you clown?
One day when your club wins a trophy, you will change your opinion, however that wont happen.

"Again the sthy centre if excellence. Talking out of his ass." what does this mean?
please don't ask how many juniors in your teams as it common knowledge that certain clubs have been hitting other junior clubs other than there own for years, targeting players as young as 10 then claiming them as there juniors.
one day when your club wins or "buys a title" whatever you want to call it, southy might win one, one day you just don't know, one thing, they wont buy a ****er........

Zico
28-03-2015, 09:36 PM
Why do these people all have issues with clubs scouting the best players? Isn't this how it's done across the globe?
To me it is a smart policy and ensuring future success at your club.

ForeverRed
28-03-2015, 09:58 PM
It's how they go about it, my nephew was offered a push bike to play with a club, you can imagine my answer to that

GazFish35
28-03-2015, 10:04 PM
Malvern Star?

GazFish35
28-03-2015, 10:09 PM
Why do these people all have issues with clubs scouting the best players? Isn't this how it's done across the globe?
To me it is a smart policy and ensuring future success at your club.

Transfer fees paid?

Sacre Bleu
28-03-2015, 10:54 PM
It's how they go about it, my nephew was offered a push bike to play with a club, you can imagine my answer to that
A bike? Seriously!! What kid in our region would be worth a pushy?
Best way to get talented kids is get the best coaches. And what clubs can afford to pay decent money for a coach?

Doggydingo
28-03-2015, 11:52 PM
It's how they go about it, my nephew was offered a push bike to play with a club, you can imagine my answer to that

A bike hey!!!!! What type??? If it was a Repco pushies, stay at your old club and don't transfer, I had one of those Repco bikes when I was a kid and it was a heap of crap!

ForeverRed
29-03-2015, 07:27 AM
I told him to go top shelf but he stayed at his old club

MFKS
29-03-2015, 08:08 AM
Why do these people all have issues with clubs scouting the best players? Isn't this how it's done across the globe?
To me it is a smart policy and ensuring future success at your club.

As opposed to the idea of actually developing your own players which is also deemed a smart policy.

Maybe people get upset Zico at putting the effort in and seeing countless hours go to waste as they then are being exploited by other clubs who are too lazy to do what they should be doing which is to develop the players in this country not to win a trophy worth **** all in the grand scheme of things

MFKS
29-03-2015, 08:09 AM
A bike? Seriously!! What kid in our region would be worth a pushy?
Best way to get talented kids is get the best coaches. And what clubs can afford to pay decent money for a coach?

All of the ones who are paying their players

Sacre Bleu
29-03-2015, 08:55 AM
All of the ones who are paying their players
We're talking NPL youth, not seniors. What clubs are paying their juniors.

MFKS
29-03-2015, 09:37 AM
We're talking NPL youth, not seniors. What clubs are paying their juniors.

Same clubs pay senior players thousands of $$ a year yet then whinge about having to pay to get a coach their qualifications.
Maybe the money that goes to players to fund new Plasma TV's Holidays in Sth East Asia etc should actually be going to the coaches through out the club.

Not just first grade top dog but through the club.

My point does stand though. Any Club that can afford to PAY players can afford to spend money on their coaching department throughout the club

Why Blue
29-03-2015, 03:40 PM
Yep
Can confirm CCB15's hammered 1-0
By FMNC

Doggydingo
29-03-2015, 04:58 PM
[QUOTE=Wild Brew;116248]Don't hold your breath Dodgy, I got better things to do on Sunday. Good luck anyway and drink responsibly.[/QUOTE
LOL wild dill, who has the last laugh.

FMC
29-03-2015, 05:22 PM
Yep
Can confirm CCB15's hammered 1-0
By FMNC

Do you know how CCB 17's went ???

Footyhead
29-03-2015, 06:43 PM
I hear Tully is asking for all the push bikes back from CCB 15's
Hadley's dropped there sponsorship
lol

Tully is a fukkwit

Jardelsimage
29-03-2015, 07:15 PM
Zones do it all the time,
however answer the question, Sthy states they develop junior players- so how many in the current NPL Youth teams have you developed and are Sthy juniors.
I can answer that f@#k all.
It has nothing to do with trophies, just ignorance and excuses from particular people.

Maybe that's because the vultures chasing titles have stolen them already....:
don't forget we are talking about kids here, so how about we talk about results as they stand.
Good game, etc, not a bad team that one, should I go on?
you seem to know a lot about the gunners, how is this so.......

prawnhead
29-03-2015, 08:56 PM
Maybe that's because the vultures chasing titles have stolen them already....:
don't forget we are talking about kids here, so how about we talk about results as they stand.
Good game, etc, not a bad team that one, should I go on?
you seem to know a lot about the gunners, how is this so.......

Don't buy into it mate. A lot of this thread is simply a few experts passing judgement on 13-17 year old boys. Granted though they seem to know a shit load about the game. Just have a look back through some of Why Blue's posts. Football genius!!!

late_to_the_game
29-03-2015, 09:06 PM
Weston v Adamstown 17s game was a really good game yesterday. First 30 minutes both teams being very cagey letting the other sides backs have the ball, and keeping very good structure making it difficult to play through.
Adamstown scored first, then gave away a silly penalty, which Weston missed. The game then opened up a bit once substitutions started being made.
Weston scored a good goal and both sides missed a few opportunities. Adamstown then gave away the penalty that decided the match.
Weston the better team on the day, Adamstown making too many small mistakes which added up.

Weston now top of the table with 4 from 4

Quare Caeruleum
29-03-2015, 10:15 PM
Granted though they seem to know a shit load about the game. Just have a look back through some of Why Blue's posts. Football genius!!!
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 07:32 AM
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

Well i can tell you with absolute certainty that I have been called a very naughty boy way more often than a football genius !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 07:35 AM
[QUOTE=Wild Brew;116248]Don't hold your breath Dodgy, I got better things to do on Sunday. Good luck anyway and drink responsibly.[/QUOTE
LOL wild dill, who has the last laugh.

with out a doubt one of the strangest post's ever seen........................

GO AWAY
30-03-2015, 07:42 AM
hear azzuri 17s lost 5-0 to MNC ???

Bit of a surprise ??? Havnt been followng too much so i will stand corrected.

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 07:44 AM
I hear Tully is asking for all the push bikes back from CCB 15's
Hadley's dropped there sponsorship
lol

MT you are hard to keep up with...............one minute CCB are spending all their Youth fee's on Senior players match payments..............next minute all youth players are getting bikes.................

I can however confirm that my son gets a lift to each game...................no bike riding !!!!!!!...................although now you mention it...........one new player to the team did turn up to training on a rather new looking mountain bike........................bloody hell !!!!!!!!!!!

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 08:04 AM
WB- there was a lot mention of Repco bikes, i thought maybe if you paid regos 2 years in advance, you won a bike?

only one thing wrong with that theory MT............no one would pay year in advance rego at CCB........lol

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 08:20 AM
With players coming from as far as the central coast, Port Stephens and Cessnock to compete at a higher level it would be hard to ignore them and only concentrate on home grown juniors. Playing for any of the multitude of non NPL clubs as a junior should not be a barrier to chasing stronger competition at an NPL club.
As far as I know these juniors only want to play with mates, get the best coaching or just fit in a team that has room for them. Despite conspiracy theories I think good luck to any club that can offer to develop a player wherever he came from.

Most common sense put up so far....................if kids want to better themselves and play for a strong team with a good coach what's the problem ??? that's development isn't it ????............

Footyhead
30-03-2015, 08:22 AM
Jardel you are consistent with your posts, and Sthy's results and player development.
Its not about Titles, rather than developing quality teams and player opportunities?
Everyone knows a lot about the GUNNERS, because there isnt much to remember
Noone has Sthy players in NPL Youth, rather than Sthy having everyone elses juniors. FACT.:wanker:
Do you have something against The Gunners or FR? FR is the only only one here that I can see supporting the Gunners.
We all know now in no uncertain terms about Southy's struggles to produce good juniors. If there is a development program there, as there should be in every club, give them a chance. This is just the second year of Youth NPL, last year was a real scramble to see which clubs would get the Macquarie and Newcastle Football rep teams. It was appalling to see the CCB treatment of their own juniors last year and other stories I've heard at various trials this year it's continuing. So far it's not been about player "development" rather than just getting the best.

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 08:34 AM
Do you have something against The Gunners or FR? FR is the only only one here that I can see supporting the Gunners.
We all know now in no uncertain terms about Southy's struggles to produce good juniors. If there is a development program there, as there should be in every club, give them a chance. This is just the second year of Youth NPL, last year was a real scramble to see which clubs would get the Macquarie and Newcastle Football rep teams. It was appalling to see the CCB treatment of their own juniors last year and other stories I've heard at various trials this year it's continuing. So far it's not been about player "development" rather than just getting the best.

But the thing people are missing is that Southy like every other club had trials and accepted kids from anywhere .......................true...........so why is FR always on about trophy hunters ???

Yes kids/parents will seek out strong clubs, strong teams, the better coaches ..............of course they will and they should !!!!!!!!

Footyhead
30-03-2015, 09:02 AM
Nope Footyhead

My remarks are based around continual comments on trophy hunting, stealing players etc etc.
I suggest research football, from all over the world, players will aim to be at better clubs, better clubs aim to develop there own better players, and the end result is better football, and more of it.
Now continual comments of stealing players and trophy hunting- explains everything, we accept this crap football mentality, i bet these people are Jets fans, and see no problem with there shitful performances, structures and administration- maybe a reflection on how they run there clubs???.
Yes they are kids, and kids want more, some clubs offer this, others whinge and fail to deliver, just look at results thus far, and compare to last year.
Same Big clubs, more interested 1st grade or pissing up after the game, rather than youth development.

Fair enough, I guess Magic is the good example and Jaffas the bad !

Quare Caeruleum
30-03-2015, 09:46 AM
Well i can tell you with absolute certainty that I have been called a very naughty boy way more often than a football genius !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Res ipsa loquitur

Why Blue
30-03-2015, 11:32 AM
Res ipsa loquitur

common law..................................wow.......... ......now who is smart enough to be a solicitor ?????

The Northern Defender
30-03-2015, 06:44 PM
Do you know how CCB 17's went ???

Fmnc won the 17s 5 nil and in fact completed a clean sweep. Game started out close but fmnc gradually took control and did not look like conceeding. Both now have one win each.
what do people think of this travel to port mac and taree and should these guys and possibly other zones be a big part of a future npl comp.?

Doggydingo
31-03-2015, 08:09 AM
Fmnc won the 17s 5 nil and in fact completed a clean sweep. Game started out close but fmnc gradually took control and did not look like conceeding. Both now have one win each.
what do people think of this travel to port mac and taree and should these guys and possibly other zones be a big part of a future npl comp.?

Too far and no

Doggydingo
31-03-2015, 08:16 AM
Too far and no
Rather go to Sydney for better teams and competition leading to much better player development. I forgot to mention less teams with hackers (struggling players) out to cause an injury or win at whatever cost just because the game is moving to fast for them to keep up with.
I watched a game on weekend between hamilton and edgie ...... Disgusting edgie just out to hurt players....
Coach needs to be chatted by his own club officials.....

Why Blue
31-03-2015, 08:22 AM
Fmnc won the 17s 5 nil and in fact completed a clean sweep. Game started out close but fmnc gradually took control and did not look like conceeding. Both now have one win each.
what do people think of this travel to port mac and taree and should these guys and possibly other zones be a big part of a future npl comp.?

Mate........I love a road trip.............but seriously Football Mid nth Coast need to get into the 90's ....................it's like we travelled back in time last sunday at Wayne Richards .........

were do we start...........................

The Pitch.................absolutely terrible, grass was 6 inch's long or there were big hole's
the Line markings.............non existant, in fact if the referee's knew any rules they would not have allowed the games to be played
The Ref's.............to old and to friendly with the locals..............in our game the ref knew every player by first name
No fences............ground is surrounded by either car park on two sides or open filed on the other two sides...........so easy to kick the ball into the car park for a 2-3 minute chase................oh and one game ball

no duty officers..............
crowd...........back to U/6's..............parents sitting 1m from field...................the crap from a couple of parents was disgusting.

I believe Olympic and now CCB have made official complaints to NNSWF about games played and thank god they have. It really is a disgrace.

Why Blue
31-03-2015, 08:25 AM
Rather go to Sydney for better teams and competition leading to much better player development. I forgot to mention less teams with hackers (struggling players) out to cause an injury or win at whatever cost just because the game is moving to fast for them to keep up with.
I watched a game on weekend between hamilton and edgie ...... Disgusting edgie just out to hurt players....
Coach needs to be chatted by his own club officials.....

What age group ????

Yes Sydney would be far better option, the trip to Port is hazardous

late_to_the_game
31-03-2015, 11:27 AM
Mate........I love a road trip.............but seriously Football Mid nth Coast need to get into the 90's ....................it's like we travelled back in time last sunday at Wayne Richards .........

were do we start...........................

The Pitch.................absolutely terrible, grass was 6 inch's long or there were big hole's
the Line markings.............non existant, in fact if the referee's knew any rules they would not have allowed the games to be played
The Ref's.............to old and to friendly with the locals..............in our game the ref knew every player by first name
No fences............ground is surrounded by either car park on two sides or open filed on the other two sides...........so easy to kick the ball into the car park for a 2-3 minute chase................oh and one game ball

no duty officers..............
crowd...........back to U/6's..............parents sitting 1m from field...................the crap from a couple of parents was disgusting.

I believe Olympic and now CCB have made official complaints to NNSWF about games played and thank god they have. It really is a disgrace.

It seems that FMNC get VERY special treatment from NNSW. In the WPL they are the only "Club" allowed to have players dual registered into the local competition and the WPL. All Newcastle based clubs are banned from doing it....

hamburgler
31-03-2015, 11:41 AM
Mate........I love a road trip.............but seriously Football Mid nth Coast need to get into the 90's ....................it's like we travelled back in time last sunday at Wayne Richards .........

were do we start...........................

The Pitch.................absolutely terrible, grass was 6 inch's long or there were big hole's
the Line markings.............non existant, in fact if the referee's knew any rules they would not have allowed the games to be played
The Ref's.............to old and to friendly with the locals..............in our game the ref knew every player by first name
No fences............ground is surrounded by either car park on two sides or open filed on the other two sides...........so easy to kick the ball into the car park for a 2-3 minute chase................oh and one game ball

no duty officers..............
crowd...........back to U/6's..............parents sitting 1m from field...................the crap from a couple of parents was disgusting.

I believe Olympic and now CCB have made official complaints to NNSWF about games played and thank god they have. It really is a disgrace.

Could not agree more, facilities are definitely sub-standard, both at Taree and Port Macquarie, but especialy the latter. Refereeing is average at best, and yes, seems like every official knows most if not all players from MNC.

Thomas477
31-03-2015, 02:05 PM
Could not agree more, facilities are definitely sub-standard, both at Taree and Port Macquarie, but especialy the latter. Refereeing is average at best, and yes, seems like every official knows most if not all players from MNC.

Well how many referees would you expect that they have who can ref at NPL youth level? Newcastle continually has the same small group of refs do it down here.

The Northern Defender
31-03-2015, 02:08 PM
Mate........I love a road trip.............but seriously Football Mid nth Coast need to get into the 90's ....................it's like we travelled back in time last sunday at Wayne Richards .........

were do we start...........................

The Pitch.................absolutely terrible, grass was 6 inch's long or there were big hole's
the Line markings.............non existant, in fact if the referee's knew any rules they would not have allowed the games to be played
The Ref's.............to old and to friendly with the locals..............in our game the ref knew every player by first name
No fences............ground is surrounded by either car park on two sides or open filed on the other two sides...........so easy to kick the ball into the car park for a 2-3 minute chase................oh and one game ball

no duty officers..............
crowd...........back to U/6's..............parents sitting 1m from field...................the crap from a couple of parents was disgusting.

I believe Olympic and now CCB have made official complaints to NNSWF about games played and thank god they have. It really is a disgrace.

Didn't mean to set you off Blue but I thought this might stir up some comment. At least you enjoyed the road trip though!
But the condition of the field and the field situation is poor and from what I understand the local council has let everyone down in this regard but I am not sure what role FMNC could play in that.
As for the refs- well yeah they were average at best but I am not sure that any favouritism was given as from what I saw it was ordinary for both sides.
I too heard some comments (but from both sets of supporters) that were definitely not acceptable and to be honest have done for the last couple of weeks so maybe this is something that needs to be looked at by NNSWF as it would seem to me to breach the code of conduct. Duty officers would have helped definitely.
Unfortunately though FMNC does not appear to have the resources of some of the Newy clubs.

The Northern Defender
31-03-2015, 02:13 PM
What age group ????

Yes Sydney would be far better option, the trip to Port is hazardous

Only when you get out of the car Blue!

hamburgler
31-03-2015, 02:37 PM
Well how many referees would you expect that they have who can ref at NPL youth level? Newcastle continually has the same small group of refs do it down here.

The issue is not that the ref knows all the players, as that undoubtedly happens in Newcastle too. The fact is, when playing at Port, the old ref's use the players name and spend time at half time with players parents on the sideline. When that happens, and the home team gets a few calls go their way, certainly leaves traveling NPL sides feeling hard done by.

Why Blue
31-03-2015, 02:38 PM
Didn't mean to set you off Blue but I thought this might stir up some comment. At least you enjoyed the road trip though!
But the condition of the field and the field situation is poor and from what I understand the local council has let everyone down in this regard but I am not sure what role FMNC could play in that.
As for the refs- well yeah they were average at best but I am not sure that any favouritism was given as from what I saw it was ordinary for both sides.
I too heard some comments (but from both sets of supporters) that were definitely not acceptable and to be honest have done for the last couple of weeks so maybe this is something that needs to be looked at by NNSWF as it would seem to me to breach the code of conduct. Duty officers would have helped definitely.
Unfortunately though FMNC does not appear to have the resources of some of the Newy clubs.

Yep......particularly enjoyed a swim at Bonny Hills...........some nice fish & chips.......so all not lost !!!!!!!!!!

Doggydingo
31-03-2015, 02:58 PM
Yep......particularly enjoyed a swim at Bonny Hills...........some nice fish & chips.......so all not lost !!!!!!!!!!
Rather have a kebab at Blacktown. **** the fish and chips

Thomas477
31-03-2015, 07:59 PM
The issue is not that the ref knows all the players, as that undoubtedly happens in Newcastle too. The fact is, when playing at Port, the old ref's use the players name and spend time at half time with players parents on the sideline. When that happens, and the home team gets a few calls go their way, certainly leaves traveling NPL sides feeling hard done by.

Yeah, alright, that's dodgy. But you go to any of the more remote locations in the Interdistricts and the same thing happens, so it's not completely unheard of, but for NPL games it shouldn't be on.

Y Bloo?
10-04-2015, 05:06 PM
Anyone checking out the Telstra youth challenge at Speers Point? Have you heard Clayton Zane is coaching EJ'S 15s?

Y Bloo?
11-04-2015, 10:14 PM
Any scores from todays games? Weston v Maitland and Hamilton v Broadmeadow I think.

NewyTy
11-04-2015, 11:28 PM
Maitland v Weston:
13's: 2-0 Weston / 14's: 1-1 / 15's: 0-0 / 17's 3-1 Weston

Hamilton v Magic
13's: 4-2 Magic / 14's: 2-2 / 15's: 4-3 Magic / 17's: 1-0 Magic

Why Blue
12-04-2015, 09:48 AM
Anyone checking out the Telstra youth challenge at Speers Point? Have you heard Clayton Zane is coaching EJ'S 15s?

Have heard CZ is coaching 15's a few times
..... Just haven't seen it yet

late_to_the_game
13-04-2015, 08:19 AM
Quick question of the experts: We had a kid yellow carded for not having the captains arm band on at Mid North Coast in the 17s. Would not have minded but he got a second one later and off.

Seems strange to me. Our captain was on the bench at that stage and we had not swapped over.....

Swanky
13-04-2015, 08:56 AM
Quick question of the experts: We had a kid yellow carded for not having the captains arm band on at Mid North Coast in the 17s. Would not have minded but he got a second one later and off.

Seems strange to me. Our captain was on the bench at that stage and we had not swapped over.....

That seems a little harsh

Quare Caeruleum
13-04-2015, 02:05 PM
Harsh indeed. One might ask how the ref identified this player as the captain if he was not wearing an armband? Did the player make a false representation in absentia?
Having quickly checked the 17 laws of the game I found no reference for the need for a team to have a captain, nor an armband being part of the clothing requirements. There may, however, be a rule set in place by the local association that insists on both a captain and armband.
Regardless, the unwritten Law "18" of common sense by the referee could have been used to ask the captain to nominate his successor when he left the pitch.
"De minimis non curat lex"

Why Blue
13-04-2015, 02:10 PM
Harsh indeed. One might ask how the ref identified this player as the captain if he was not wearing an armband? Did the player make a false representation in absentia?
Having quickly checked the 17 laws of the game I found no reference for the need for a team to have a captain, nor an armband being part of the clothing requirements. There may, however, be a rule set in place by the local association that insists on both a captain and armband.
Regardless, the unwritten Law "18" of common sense by the referee could have been used to ask the captain to nominate his successor when he left the pitch.
"De minimis non curat lex"

extremely minor transgression...................indeed

but as i have said before..............its like going back in time up there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why Blue
13-04-2015, 02:58 PM
does anyone know if Jaffa's & Southy youth played on sunday ???? and if so any scores ???

outsider
13-04-2015, 03:00 PM
Quick question of the experts: We had a kid yellow carded for not having the captains arm band on at Mid North Coast in the 17s. Would not have minded but he got a second one later and off.

Seems strange to me. Our captain was on the bench at that stage and we had not swapped over.....

kidding right?

NewyTy
13-04-2015, 03:12 PM
does anyone know if Jaffa's & Southy youth played on sunday ???? and if so any scores ???

13's: 0-0 Draw
14's: 3-2 Southy
15's: 1-0 Southy
17's: 2-1 Southy

Why Blue
13-04-2015, 03:22 PM
13's: 0-0 Draw
14's: 3-2 Southy
15's: 1-0 Southy
17's: 2-1 Southy

thanks

big day out for southy

Why Blue
16-04-2015, 07:56 AM
Have you heard Clayton Zane is coaching EJ'S 15s?

CZ takes over 15's this weekend...............

Zico
16-04-2015, 09:14 AM
excellent achievement!
From Assistant Coach/Coach with real Jets
to
coach of 15's at pretend Jets:roflz:
Excellent opportunity for the kids to learn though, He has a history of coaching at academy level in England and I've been impressed with how he coaches kids in the past.

Why Blue
16-04-2015, 09:24 AM
excellent achievement!
From Assistant Coach/Coach with real Jets
to
coach of 15's at pretend Jets:roflz:

yep I think its great for these kids, he has proven record with kids, if these kids are any good I'm sure he will help them develop

besides whats worse.....................looking after a group of 15yo's or looking after a group of grown men who act like 15yo's ??????

late_to_the_game
16-04-2015, 10:28 AM
excellent achievement!
From Assistant Coach/Coach with real Jets
to
coach of 15's at pretend Jets:roflz:

Says something about the bloke that he is not too proud to go back and coach at this level.

Would love to have him coaching my son. He did some sessions with a group of Magic kids I was coaching prior to them trialling for the Elite 15's a couple of years ago, and he had an impact after only a couple of weeks.

Sacre Bleu
17-04-2015, 11:34 AM
Anyone see the top of the table clash in the 15s last weekend? I know score was 4-3 to Magic. Must have been a tight battle. Who would you pick to finish on top come seasons end.

Why Blue
17-04-2015, 11:54 AM
Anyone see the top of the table clash in the 15s last weekend? I know score was 4-3 to Magic. Must have been a tight battle. Who would you pick to finish on top come seasons end.

In the words of Pilot.................................oh oh oh its magic............................................. .

Local Rules
17-04-2015, 01:15 PM
Anyone see the top of the table clash in the 15s last weekend? I know score was 4-3 to Magic. Must have been a tight battle. Who would you pick to finish on top come seasons end.

Magic got away to a 4-0 lead thanks to a couple of penalties and Hamilton finished over the top of them. Too early to tell but I think Olympic.

hamburgler
17-04-2015, 01:46 PM
Magic got away to a 4-0 lead thanks to a couple of penalties and Hamilton finished over the top of them. Too early to tell but I think Olympic.

Don't know what game you were watching. Magic dominated the first 30 mins and yes 2 penalties, but they dominated. Took the foot off the gas and to their credit Olympic came back and played well. The rest of the contest was fairly even, with the score at 4-2 for a lot of the second half, with Olympic converting their own penalty with the last kick of the game. Overall, Magic the better side!

Sacre Bleu
17-04-2015, 10:44 PM
This weekends 15s fixtures could give us a better idea of who are genuine contenders. The grand final replay between CCB and Olympic should be a cracker, although a loss for les bleus would really set them back. And I wouldn't write off the Jets against Magic. Adamstown seem to be big improvers and Weston with a win could further their claim for a top 4 finish. This weekend could sort out the real contenders or totally open up the table.
Don't be surprised if only 4 points separate the top 7 teams come Sunday afternoon with the 2 teams at the tail having a game in hand.
Good luck to all and hope the weather stays ok.

late_to_the_game
17-04-2015, 10:54 PM
The 15s table is interesting and close - CCB only conceding two goals in four games - so both losses by one. Next closest is 6. Normally defence that good has you higher up the table.

winner
18-04-2015, 06:47 AM
The 15s table is interesting and close - CCB only conceding two goals in four games - so both losses by one. Next closest is 6. Normally defence that good has you higher up the table.

Not if you don't score goals

late_to_the_game
18-04-2015, 11:58 AM
Not if you don't score goals

Hang on where is captain obvious.....

Sacre Bleu
18-04-2015, 12:11 PM
CCB's started with great form and plenty of goals. 2 surprise losses by 1 goal each followed by a washout and bye have left them winless for a while. Todays game could be the make or break of them. Certainly wouldn't write them off unless they suffered a heavy loss.

Wild Brew
18-04-2015, 05:30 PM
So do we have some scores from today's games?

NewyTy
18-04-2015, 05:33 PM
Saw this on Hamo's facebook. They played Charlestown I think.

Results from today's Youth NPL
Under 17s won 2-0
Under 15s won 1-0
Under 14s won 2-0
Under 13s won 3-1

2285
18-04-2015, 05:36 PM
So do we have some scores from today's games?


Hamilton Olympic FC
53 mins ·
Results from today's Youth NPL
Under 17s won 2-0
Under 15s won 1-0
Under 14s won 2-0
Under 13s won 3-1
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Wild Brew
18-04-2015, 06:15 PM
Thanks guys. Good day for Olympic.

NewyTy
18-04-2015, 06:18 PM
Other results are up on the Sportingpulse page.

Edgeworth v Maitland
Under 13's: Edgy 4-0
Under 14's: Edgy 6-2
Under 15's: Draw 1-1
Under 17's: Edgy 4-1

Weston v Mid North Coast
Under 13's: MNC 5-0
Under 14's: Draw 1-1
Under 15's: Draw 2-2
Under 17's: Weston 3-2

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 07:51 AM
CCB's started with great form and plenty of goals. 2 surprise losses by 1 goal each followed by a washout and bye have left them winless for a while. Todays game could be the make or break of them. Certainly wouldn't write them off unless they suffered a heavy loss.

CCB v Olympic U/15 game was an absolute cracker and a credit to all players and coaches involved, two teams that rise to play each other. If these boys continue to develop than both clubs should have some great young players coming thru.

Wild Brew
20-04-2015, 09:10 AM
CCB v Olympic U/15 game was an absolute cracker and a credit to all players and coaches involved, two teams that rise to play each other. If these boys continue to develop than both clubs should have some great young players coming thru.
Hope so. Doesn't look like EJ'S will provide a lot in the future. I was surprised at their inability to control possession in all age groups yesterday. Had to rely too much on long balls over the top to get any territory. A few years ago they wouldn't allow sides a sniff of the ball and challenged opponents to take the ball off them. They should forget about shirt pulling and concentrate on quick passes on the ground and good support.
Bring back the Gumps!!!!

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 10:05 AM
Hope so. Doesn't look like EJ'S will provide a lot in the future. I was surprised at their inability to control possession in all age groups yesterday. Had to rely too much on long balls over the top to get any territory. A few years ago they wouldn't allow sides a sniff of the ball and challenged opponents to take the ball off them. They should forget about shirt pulling and concentrate on quick passes on the ground and good support.
Bring back the Gumps!!!!

Yeah look hopefully the EJ program is continually developing both player and it self, if so it will turn out some good players, still to many hanger on r s for me, to many from same families and to many old timers.
Agree that a few years back the teams dominated possession, you are right, challenging teams to try and break them down.

Agree again with shirt pulling and also diving, you are correct, get back to playing football for gods sake !!!!!!!

Gumps.........................urm................. maybe ?????

Doggydingo
20-04-2015, 11:20 AM
Yeah look hopefully the EJ program is continually developing both player and it self, if so it will turn out some good players, still to many hanger on r s for me, to many from same families and to many old timers.
Agree that a few years back the teams dominated possession, you are right, challenging teams to try and break them down.

Agree again with shirt pulling and also diving, you are correct, get back to playing football for gods sake !!!!!!!

Gumps.........................urm................. maybe ?????

A very interesting read on the NPL Thread 2015 about the Emerjging Jets fearless leader and how he is setting a good example. Worth a read!

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 11:37 AM
A very interesting read on the NPL Thread 2015 about the Emerjging Jets fearless leader and how he is setting a good example. Worth a read!

yeah have read it.................

Footyhead
20-04-2015, 01:55 PM
I haven't seen any Ejets games in quite awhile...wasn't their mantra to "play out" all the time ? surprised to hear them pumping long balls...

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 02:01 PM
why do MT's posts keep disappearing ?????

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 02:06 PM
I haven't seen any Ejets games in quite awhile...wasn't their mantra to "play out" all the time ? surprised to hear them pumping long balls...

my belief is that they still train to play out, they also train to control possession. But like all teams coaching can go out the window when under the pump or playing roster just isn't up to the job.

early_to_the_match
20-04-2015, 03:16 PM
my belief is that they still train to play out, they also train to control possession. But like all teams coaching can go out the window when under the pump or playing roster just isn't up to the job.
Perhaps the NPL youth is getting stronger all round and as you correctly pointed out WhyB, the Emerging Jets did seem to be under the pump. If it's wet Charlestown should also make it very slippery for the "shirt-pullers" next week.
Good luck.

hamburgler
20-04-2015, 03:18 PM
why do MT's posts keep disappearing ?????

That's a good question - they've disappeared more than once??

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 03:29 PM
Perhaps the NPL youth is getting stronger all round and as you correctly pointed out WhyB, the Emerging Jets did seem to be under the pump. If it's wet Charlestown should also make it very slippery for the "shirt-pullers" next week.
Good luck.

mate we will need all the luck every one can bless us with...................just to get one in the net !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why Blue
20-04-2015, 03:29 PM
That's a good question - they've disappeared more than once??

I was thinking they had been hamburgled ...................lol

hamburgler
20-04-2015, 04:04 PM
I was thinking they had been hamburgled ...................lol

1080

late_to_the_game
20-04-2015, 08:42 PM
Perhaps the NPL youth is getting stronger all round and as you correctly pointed out WhyB, the Emerging Jets did seem to be under the pump. If it's wet Charlestown should also make it very slippery for the "shirt-pullers" next week.
Good luck.

Just had to reply to this one!

I am a huge fan of the NPL youth concept, already in only the second year I think most will agree the competition is stronger with less distance between the top and bottom teams. In another two years when the first 13s hit 17s the standard of play and player will be much higher, relative to last year.
So yes I think the clubs are catching up to the EJs, although in the 17s last year they already had.

early_to_the_match
24-04-2015, 07:40 PM
Apparently all NPL Youth games off this weekend. Even Speers Point game between Charlestown and Emerging shirt pullers, despite ground not affected by weather.

Why Blue
24-04-2015, 07:57 PM
Apparently all NPL Youth games off this weekend. Even Speers Point game between Charlestown and Emerging shirt pullers, despite ground not affected by weather.

All games at Regional Facility Speers Point are ON this weekend
Facility has power back and is operational except internet apparently
EJ's back training Thursday

early_to_the_match
24-04-2015, 08:50 PM
All games at Regional Facility Speers Point are ON this weekend
Facility has power back and is operational except internet apparently
EJ's back training Thursday
Good luck then. I'll look out for the results if I can't get there.

Why Blue
24-04-2015, 09:22 PM
why blue- its not the regional facility, regional means every footballer, there is only i entity that has use of this poorly designed , purpose built money generating shit hole.
good luck on weekend, what day is it

Ahh MT, why so cynical ????
This is a magnificent facility built with yours and others hard earnt tax money for all to use, I heard Dave Eland telling us that the facility is there for the public 364 days a year, oh provided you pay $$$$$$

Any way game is Sunday
Only Youth games this weekend so everyone can come watch .......lol
Might see ya there

Footyhead
24-04-2015, 09:34 PM
Good luck to CCB, hope you smash them

hawk
24-04-2015, 10:42 PM
Even Speers Point game between Charlestown and Emerging shirt pullers, despite ground not affected by weather.

better a shirt puller than ankle snapper

early_to_the_match
25-04-2015, 01:26 PM
better a shirt puller than ankle snapper
Yeah. Hard to run down those long kicks over the top with crook ankles.

hawk
26-04-2015, 06:23 PM
Yeah. Hard to run down those long kicks over the top with crook ankles.

lol.

Regardless of who I play Ill take a shirt pull than hobbling around for the rest of the week.

Does not apply in a GF, kick anything that moves.

Doggydingo
27-04-2015, 09:34 PM
So how did the emerging jets play????

Wild Brew
28-04-2015, 10:27 PM
Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.
Remember, you heard it here first.

Why Blue
29-04-2015, 06:34 AM
Remember, you heard it here first.

Quote Originally Posted by Wild Brew
Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

Yep have heard about the 15's EJ, who was playing 16's going to magic......................now which midfielder from leading club is going there ????

Also surely the EJ player is going to play 19's ???? if playing 19's I can understand the decision...............

Wild Brew
29-04-2015, 07:26 AM
Ok. Half right. Good to see midfielder stuck by his team when they started to lose and was rewarded with win on the weekend.

Why Blue
29-04-2015, 07:33 AM
Ok. Half right. Good to see midfielder stuck by his team when they started to lose and was rewarded with win on the weekend.

so from that I take it the midfielder is from CCB. Dont have a clue who it could have been but glad he has decided to stay.

hamburgler
29-04-2015, 09:50 AM
Quote Originally Posted by Wild Brew
Expect to see some player movement soon. A 15s Emerging Jet and midfielder from another leading NPL club plan to jump ship and head to the same strong club.

Yep have heard about the 15's EJ, who was playing 16's going to magic......................now which midfielder from leading club is going there ????

Also surely the EJ player is going to play 19's ???? if playing 19's I can understand the decision...............

The kid is 15. I thought 15's weren't able to be registered to play 17's or above????

Why Blue
29-04-2015, 03:45 PM
The kid is 15. I thought 15's weren't able to be registered to play 17's or above????

My understanding is that you have to be 15 to play senior football, so once you have turned 15 you can if good enough play 19's or higher

Zico
01-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Let the Double Point Fiesta begin.
Currently Edgy 3x Double Point games (Jaffas, Magic, FMNC) 18 points
The rest 2x (12 points)
NNSW Football grow a brain, either allow games to be rescheduled or refund the players portions of the rego missed in games not played.
I believe the EJets....AGAIN are exempted and can reschedule, because they are representing in Japan, Qatar etc etc etc. Representing who... Tinkler??????
Rules for 1, and rules for the rest.
Yeah I agree, how can these kids develop (we are constantly feed the bullshit that it's not about winning) when they only play 70% of the games? replay the games, even if it's at that so called regional facility.

Thomas477
01-05-2015, 02:19 PM
Welcome to life, it's not fair.

Zico
01-05-2015, 02:21 PM
The kids that just play for fun and have little to no chance of playing at a decent level still replay the games yet the so called elite aren't given the same opportunity?

hamburgler
01-05-2015, 02:49 PM
The kids that just play for fun and have little to no chance of playing at a decent level still replay the games yet the so called elite aren't given the same opportunity?

I made the same comment when this happened last year, and got told by several the clubs voted against rescheduling fixtures. Surely every effort should be made to play as many games as possible at the elite level - Northern should make rescheduling washed out fixtures in both senior and youth grades a requirement of holding an NPL licence. It's a joke!

Footyhead
01-05-2015, 03:22 PM
All WPL games are rescheduled for mid-week from 14s through to First grade, dunno why this can't happen for NPL youth

Why Blue
01-05-2015, 03:41 PM
The kids that just play for fun and have little to no chance of playing at a decent level still replay the games yet the so called elite aren't given the same opportunity?

100%
This is the issue the so called elite comp do this BS double point crap

15D get to reschedule !!!!!

Why Blue
01-05-2015, 04:35 PM
200% agree WB
mini roos,Interdistrict,over 35's, All Age, WPL, NPL all get games rescheduled- NPL Youth dont, too hard, all clubs apparently agreed...final result double points and less football.
So! obviously all NPL Youth games off this weekend?
My son will play AFL next year.

I know CCB @ Lisle Carr is off
I can't imagine any games being played
It is crap..... Players deserve better & parents deserve better for $$$$ spent

Quare Caeruleum
01-05-2015, 05:53 PM
I know CCB @ Lisle Carr is off
I can't imagine any games being played
It is crap..... Players deserve better & parents deserve better for $$$$ spent
What about a class action against NNSWF???

Thomas477
01-05-2015, 06:02 PM
What about a class action against NNSWF???

Yeah that'll work, but wait, the club's decided that they didn't want to reschedule the fixtures.....

winner
01-05-2015, 06:04 PM
What about a class action against NNSWF???
What about nnsw transferring some of these games to the home off football. Didn't we help fund it through our registration fees etc

The Magician
01-05-2015, 06:50 PM
What about nnsw transferring some of these games to the home off football. Didn't we help fund it through our registration fees etc

$80 per club per game.... don't think anyone will be rescheduling their games there anytime soon even if clubs agree to share cost.

Why Blue
02-05-2015, 08:33 AM
What about a class action against NNSWF???

now your just causing trouble :whistling:

Quare Caeruleum
02-05-2015, 10:03 AM
now your just causing trouble :whistling:
"Aliquando et insanire iucundum est" - (Seneca)

Why Blue
02-05-2015, 10:10 AM
"Aliquando et insanire iucundum est" - (Seneca)

yes sometimes it is .........................................

ForeverRed
02-05-2015, 10:13 AM
I have a better option, how about some of you know it alls join your clubs committee and then you will realise how big a task and heavy burden on members it is to replay fixtures over 2 or 4 nights and then in some cases have the pitch back in good order for the weekend, trust me, it's not easy