HAL 13/14 Rd18 - Newcastle Jets v Wellington Phoenix 8/2/14 k/off 5:00pm AEDST

[Jeterpool]

Match details for here

[Jeterpool]

Round 18 Preview –Newcastle Jets v Wellington Phoenix

Overall – 20 games between the two teams.

Jets Wins – 5, Phoenix Wins – 12, Draws – 3


In Newcastle – 8 games

Jets Wins – 3, Phoenix Wins – 4, Draws – 1

Last Result -

Jets 0 – Phoenix 0 at McLean Park, Round 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiTRJAAbSoo

Biggest Win

Jets 3 (Hoffman 12, Hoffman 20, Naidovski 84) – Phoenix 2 (Sigmund 26, Greenacre 43), Round 1, Season 5 at Energy Australia Stadium, 9/08/2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah3B_BooasE

Heaviest Defeat

Jets 0 – Phoenix 4 (Brown 18, Rojas 31, Greenacre 41, Macallister 88), Round 19, Season 6 at Wellington, 18/12/2010.

Leading Scorers in fixture –

Jets – 2 (Jason Hoffman, Matt Thompson)
Phoenix – 6 (Shane Smeltz – including 3 penalties)

Coaches Head to Head – 0 matches


Newcastle Jets Coaching Records –


Gary Van Egmond – 4 matches (3 wins, 3 draw and 6 losses = 25% win ratio)
Craig Deans – 1 match (0 wins, 0 draws, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
Branko Culina – 7 matches (2 wins, 0 draws, 5 losses = 29% win ratio)


Average Home crowd – 10425

Key facts:

The Jets have only ever received 1 penalty in 20 meetings. This was in Season 3 and was scored by Mark Bridge (30/12/2007). The Jets have since gone 17 matches without a penalty in this fixture. This was awarded by Strebre Delovski
The Phoenix, however, have received 5 penalties since this time. They have converted 4 of them - Chris Greenacre being the only player to miss his shot.
In the first meeting between these two clubs in Season 3, Round 3, Matt Thompson scored the 500th goal in A-League History.
The Phoenix have scored an average of 1.9 goals against the Jets in all matches. The Jets have scored an average of 0.85 goals. This goes up to an average of 1.25 at home.

The Jets have only ever kept 3 clean sheets against the Phoenix, while the Jets have been kept scoreless 10 times.
In the last 2 home games, and 3 of their last 4, against the Phoenix the Jets have been kept scoreless. Marko Jesic was the last player in this fixture to score for the Jets at home.
This is the first visit of the Phoenix to Newcastle in just over 14 months. The last meeting was a disappointing 3-0 loss to the Jets where former player Jeremy Brockie scored 2 goals.
Vince Lia is the most booked Phoenix player in the match, having been booked 5 times against the Jets in the past. Manny Muscat has been booked 4 times.
4 Jets players have been sent off in the fixture – Joel Griffiths, Mark Milligan, Ryan Griffiths and Sam Gallaway. Sam Gallaway is the only player to receive a red for a second bookable offence. Gallaway is also the only player of these 4 to have been booked during a Phoenix game.
The Phoenix have had 3 players dismissed – Nick Ward, Tim Brown and Tony Lochhead. These were all second bookable offences.
Glen Moss has kept 3 clean sheets in 13 appearances against the Jets, 2 of these as the Phoenix keeper. He hasn’t kept a clean sheet against the Jets at Hunter Stadium, letting in an average of 2 goals.
An Ernie Merrick coached side has only ever won twice in 9 visits to Hunter Stadium.
The Jets have only played on February 9th once. This was a 2-1 defeat to Western Sydney Wanderers last year.


The referee details will be added on Friday

[leftrightout]

Jeterpool, once again, great stats! I love reading them every week!
So many good and bad memories... mainly bad hahahaha

[Jeterpool]

Jeterpool, once again, great stats! I love reading them every week!
So many good and bad memories... mainly bad hahahaha

Thanks LRO :)

The same stuff will come up the next time the Phoenix play at home, however!

[northern_swan]

3 games of league on the ground Saturday, expect the pitch to be shyte and covered in pagan markings.

[q-money]

well it can hardly get any worse

[Jetmaster]

Didn't Tarek miss a penalty in Wellington a few years ago ?

[Jeterpool]

Didn't Tarek miss a penalty in Wellington a few years ago ?

I don't have any record of Tarek missing a penalty in his jets career. Happy to be proven wrong if someone has a better memory than me.

ONly people I know to have missed are Milicic (v NZ Knights), Zura (v Victory), Thompson (v Sydney) and Burns this season.

[militiamon]

Didn't Tarek miss a penalty in Wellington a few years ago ?

Correct.

[parksey]

Yeah he did because it made me cry

[Jeterpool]

Correct.


Yeah he did because it made me cry

Cool. I must have missed it. I'll look into it. Thanks.

Edit - found it. Missed in match that Hearfield scored against us and Griff and Milligan got sent.

If ever someone remembers something in addition to, or differently to, something I post please let me know because I might have it wrong and I can double check.

[Premy]

3 games of league on the ground Saturday, expect the pitch to be shyte and covered in pagan markings.
Whats going on? Whose playing? I just had the whole Aboriginal team at my work.

[northern_swan]

Whats going on? Whose playing? I just had the whole Aboriginal team at my work.

Aboriginal festival 16s and women's nsw v qld, then the Knuggets vs best of koori and murri carnivals

[Hunter403]

They should take the games away from the stadium. They will ruin an already dodgy surface with league. It's not as if these league matches have any importance in regards to the season

[MFKS]

Lets just set the record straight.

Whatever price Wellington are paying get on it.

We never beat those ****s and always lose

[Jeterpool]

Lets just set the record straight.

Whatever price Wellington are paying get on it.

We never beat those ****s and always lose

This

[Superdylan]

They should take the games away from the stadium. They will ruin an already dodgy surface with league. It's not as if these league matches have any importance in regards to the season

Yeah it's abit of a silly situation. Have no idea what crowd is expected for this knights trial but playing the game at number 2 sports ground or cessnock showground would make alot more sense.

[plague]

Lets just set the record straight.

Whatever price Wellington are paying get on it.

We never beat those ****s and always lose

Wellington $3.00

You can also get $1.60 for Wello win or draw (the only way you lose money is if Jets win and well, we all know that ain't happnin).

As they say, better than bank interest.

[Blackmac79]

**** me. League is such a shit eater of a sport too. Pisses the **** outta me that they get to play this ****ing useless sport on our pitch and not do a thing to make it any better than the cow paddock it already is.

While I am ranting about the game they play when they can't understand rules or tactics, what the **** is with them calling this Sydney team vs some minority shits from the midlands a club WORLD cup. There is nothing world about it. Of course when you support dementia ball you can barely understand the meaning of the word world let along the amount of countries that make it up.

For ****s sake these bastards

[MFKS]

Wellington $3.00

You can also get $1.60 for Wello win or draw (the only way you lose money is if Jets win and well, we all know that ain't happnin).

As they say, better than bank interest.


Yeah that's a great expression which takes me back to 2005.

At the time Australia had an all conquering Cricket Team.
Ponting Gilchrist Hayden Langer Binger McGrath Warne etc We were on top of the world and Test series were a mere formality. Some bloke we won't mention any names but lets just say he thinks quite highly of Kale Bradbery spotted that Australia were paying $1.45 to win the 2005 Ashes series against an English Cricket team who had showed very little in the last 15 years.

This big fan of Kale Bradbery decided it would be worth his effort to head down to the building society and withdraw $1000 and put it on Australia to win the Ashes at the juicy odds of $1.45 figuring $450 profit was much better than leaving it with the Building Society for 2 months.

After the first test Australia won he assumed it would be a mere formality and a few more weeks before he would be reunited with his $1450. For some reason McGrath tripped on a ball in warm up for second test and was ruled out. Australia capitulated chasing 270 odd in that test with the last 2 wickets putting on a motza only to get given all out 2 runs short from a crook decision.(WHERE WAS THE ****ING DRS)

2 test later and it was all over this mad Kale Bradbery fan as he had done his ****ing dough with 1 test to ****ing play.

Really pissed him off when the same ****s 18 months later thumped the **** out of the Poms 5-0 in a canter

[pudy]

We're due a home win.

[q-money]

what the **** is with them calling this Sydney team vs some minority shits from the midlands a club WORLD cup.

looks like you might be the retarded one because it's called the "world club challenge", tough guy

[hawk]

Round 18 Preview –Newcastle Jets v Wellington Phoenix
Overall – 20 games between the two teams.

Jets Wins – 5, Phoenix Wins – 12, Draws – 3

htf do we have 11000 members. 12 losses to these clowns. fully rams home how shit we have been managed over the years. We do have the best supporters.

[Blackmac79]

looks like you might be the retarded one because it's called the "world club challenge", tough guy

Even then. What is the point? It is a blatant lie. My mistake shows exactly how much attention I have given a shambolic event.

[Pico]

Even then. What is the point? It is a blatant lie. My mistake shows exactly how much attention I have given a shambolic event.

:lol: what?

its a shambolic event cause you don't know the name for a sport you openly admit you don't follow. I'd imagine your average yachting fan won't know about the club world cup guess that's a shambolic event too.

So does the swimming World championship cop the same treatment, after all not every nation in the world is represented at this blatant fabricated "world" swimming event.

Its just an exhibition game what's the big deal.

Did you have the same level of disgust at the "blatant lies" the FFA spread about the HAL "All Stars*" last year
*may or may not contain any actual stars.

[hausmann]

**** me. League is such a shit eater of a sport too. Pisses the **** outta me that they get to play this ****ing useless sport on our pitch and not do a thing to make it any better than the cow paddock it already is.

While I am ranting about the game they play when they can't understand rules or tactics, what the **** is with them calling this Sydney team vs some minority shits from the midlands a club WORLD cup. There is nothing world about it. Of course when you support dementia ball you can barely understand the meaning of the word world let along the amount of countries that make it up.

For ****s sake these bastards

Great idea to play against an indigenous team. The Jets should do stuff like this as well. All about creating goodwill in the community which is a good thing.

Who wants to bet whether or not we get a new pitch laid for the Asian Cup? Part of me says they obviously have to but another part says that they won't and we'll be the embarrassment of Asia.

My bet is that they are holding off on any renovations to the pitch until the Asian cup to save a few bucks.

[BodyNovo]

Great idea to play against an indigenous team. The Jets should do stuff like this as well. All about creating goodwill in the community which is a good thing.

Who wants to bet whether or not we get a new pitch laid for the Asian Cup? Part of me says they obviously have to but another part says that they won't and we'll be the embarrassment of Asia.

My bet is that they are holding off on any renovations to the pitch until the Asian cup to save a few bucks.

i agree its an awesome initiative, but i don't agree with the venue or the timing, they might get 5k (i would be very suprised if higher) why not take it to a rural venue such as cessnock and raise the price 5$ and make it a sellout.

i have never seen the jets play a trial game at hunter stadium in league season and i assume this will continue unless we get a manchester united or an mls team again and its a show who HSG consider more important.

at the end of the day we have the worst field in the a league and that's the truth.

[Pico]

With the amount of games that Hunter Stadium will have they simply can't do this on the cheap..... but they will.

This is an opportunity for the FFA & the Club to push for a modern multi-sport pitch to be installed, one that will serve both codes (right up HSG's alley)all year round, just look at English pitches that can be used for union and football with far superior finishes then what is at hunter stadium now.

Lets face it.. if anything Sydney's will be re-laid and look mint, so too Melbourne, but ours will be the cheapest band aid solution possible. Which ironically will end up costing the government more in the long run, if only they would look at the bigger picture.

[Premy]

if only they would look at the bigger picture.
Stop it you're too funny

[parksey]

i agree its an awesome initiative, but i don't agree with the venue or the timing, they might get 5k (i would be very suprised if higher) why not take it to a rural venue such as cessnock and raise the price 5$ and make it a sellout.

i have never seen the jets play a trial game at hunter stadium in league season and i assume this will continue unless we get a manchester united or an mls team again and its a show who HSG consider more important.

at the end of the day we have the worst field in the a league and that's the truth.

They'll get 8-10k easy.


**** me. League is such a shit eater of a sport too. Pisses the **** outta me that they get to play this ****ing useless sport on our pitch and not do a thing to make it any better than the cow paddock it already is.

While I am ranting about the game they play when they can't understand rules or tactics, what the **** is with them calling this Sydney team vs some minority shits from the midlands a club WORLD cup. There is nothing world about it. Of course when you support dementia ball you can barely understand the meaning of the word world let along the amount of countries that make it up.

For ****s sake these bastards

Why do people get so worked up by this stuff? It's not like hating one sport makes you a bigger fan of another.

[q-money]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGGDRRRxGp4

[My2BobsWorth]

I hope the Jets management are showing some rage over this shit on Saturday, they are basically saying, we don't give a phuk what the pitch is like on Sunday. Sack stadium management, sack the whole Liberal party

[furns]

been waiting for years for someone to quote J&SB. Q-man wins nf.net

[Superdylan]

I messages hunter stadium they said they will make sure they are spot on with the turf fixing however they are only expecting 5000.

[MFKS]

I messages hunter stadium they said they will make sure they are spot on with the turf fixing however they are only expecting 5000.

So I take it will be at its usual shit standard!!

SD if your pool company does pool surround landscaping you should put in for the tender at Stade de Newy when it comes up next

[plague]

I messages hunter stadium they said they will make sure they are spot on with the turf fixing however they are only expecting 5000.

Seriously dude where the **** do you find time to do all this stuff?

[Superdylan]

Seriously dude where the **** do you find time to do all this stuff?

Lol

There is also a super rugby trial next Friday night at hunter stadium, which will mean 3 games in 6 days.

[GazFish35]

When's the motor cross?

If pitch is no good come Asian cup the AFC will move the games.

I've heard they (the AFC) are already not happy with the pitch's "hump" they way it is higher in the middle and runs off to each send and each sideline.

[MFKS]

When's the motor cross?

If pitch is no good come Asian cup the AFC will move the games.

I've heard they (the AFC) are already not happy with the pitch's "hump" they way it is higher in the middle and runs off to each send and each sideline.

I suppose they will love the rest of the League grounds it is being played at then also??

Surprising that this would be an issue yet the grass hills seem not to be

[hawk]

Lol

There is also a super rugby trial next Friday night at hunter stadium, which will mean 3 games in 6 days.
trial? take it to Waratah Park ladies.

[seldom]

dont understand the whinging...we play much better on a cow paddock

[Tommyjet]

Hopefully a divet helps us the way the puddle did

[Premy]

Lol

There is also a super rugby trial next Friday night at hunter stadium, which will mean 3 games in 6 days.
You mean 5 games in 6 days... There is 3 just on Saturday.

[Premy]

I suppose they will love the rest of the League grounds it is being played at then also??

Surprising that this would be an issue yet the grass hills seem not to be

I thought the same thing doesn't it have to be a fully enclosed Stadium?

[GazFish35]

I suppose they will love the rest of the League grounds it is being played at then also??

Surprising that this would be an issue yet the grass hills seem not to be

Apparently our field has the worst "hump".
And I'm reckoning the hills might well be roped off, or fenced of, like the hills at parra stadium have been.

[Pico]

I can see the AFC and the Qatar WC team joining up and having massive painted signage "Qatar 2022" painted all over the hills to rub salt into the wounds.

If the pitch does not come in for a major rebuilding for the Asian Cup it never will.

The FFA & club should be coming in for major scrutiny over this. This is the sort of legacy that these events should be leaving. The fact they have been talking about using Cessnock as a training base, can just see it now home of the goanna's getting more of an upgrade then any football venue in the region or hunter stadium. This is the time the FFA should be saying to the government lets get this done properly, lets get a modern multi code suited pitch system installed and then we can look at getting future Asian cup qualifiers here.

[Beeen]

Isn't the Northern NSW project at Speers Point meant to be complete this December? Or has that stalled and never to be seen the light of day?

[russjaybee]

The hump in the middle is very very obvious when you actually get out on the pitch, I really didn't have any idea till then. It's very pronounced.

[MFKS]

Isn't the Northern NSW project at Speers Point meant to be complete this December? Or has that stalled and never to be seen the light of day?

No going ahead was in yesterdays rag

Only possible delay is PV4 negotiating a purchase of a reserved car parking space after he sells his reserved park at the Gypo equivalent

[seldom]

The hump in the middle is very very obvious when you actually get out on the pitch, I really didn't have any idea till then. It's very pronounced.

we talkin bout Bridges here ?

[Premy]

:lulzturtle:

[russjaybee]

we talkin bout Bridges here ?

:lulz:

[militiamon]

Squad announced:


Newcastle Jets squad: 1. Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 3. Taylor REGAN, 4. Kew JALIENS, 6. Zenon CARAVELLA, 7. Andrew HOOLE, 8. Ruben ZADKOVICH (c), 9. Emile HESKEY, 11. Craig GOODWIN, 13. Joey GIBBS, 15. Josh BRILLANTE, 16. Jacob PEPPER, 17. James VIRGILI, 19. Michael BRIDGES, 21. Sam GALLAWAY, 20. Ben KENNEDY (gk), 22. Adam TAGGART, 24. Mitch OXBORROW, 27. Nick WARD (two to be omitted).

Ins: 24. Mitch OXBORROW (promoted)

Outs: 29. Joel GRIFFITHS (suspension – two weeks)

Unavailable: 2. Scott NEVILLE (knee injury – long term) 5. Ben KANTAROVSKI (knee – short term), 25. Mitch COOPER (knee injury – long term).

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Jets-name-squad-to-face-Wellington/85299

Where the flip is Kale?!

[Jeterpool]

Squad announced:



Where the flip is Kale?!

Where is Chapman???

[lquiquer]

Where is Chapman???

Don't even think Chapman has played Youth since the Oman trip!!!?

[MFKS]

Don't even think Chapman has played Youth since the Oman trip!!!?
Played full game last week end in NYL

[russjaybee]

Am I the only one that actually wouldn't mind seeing what Gibbs has to offer? Has he been playing NYL?

Bridges out, Kale in, impact off da bench.

[Premy]

Am I the only one that actually wouldn't mind seeing what Gibbs has to offer?
Nope you and PV4 are the only 2, he loves Gypo's

[outsider]

Squad announced:



Where the flip is Kale?!



Referee Shaun Evans

[joel31]

Squad announced:



Where the flip is Kale?!

Referee Shaun Evans
What has that to do with Kale

[Jeterpool]

Referee Shaun Evans

Thank you

[Jeterpool]

Not much to report on this week's referee. He has officiated a Jets match once in the past, our Round 2 0-0 draw with Perth Glory.

He made 4 booking on the day - a rare match where the Jets got fewer cards than the opposition.

That's about it...

[GazFish35]

Conspiracy!

[Thomas477]

**** me, Shaun Evans is up there with Williams and Gillmuppet.

We're ****ed.

[Jeterpool]

**** me, Shaun Evans is up there with Williams and Gillmuppet.

We're ****ed.

Strebre is the only one I rate.

[Bon]

Strebre is the only one I rate.

Yeah I agree totally.. (Although, he had one game earlier this year, can't remember who it was between, but he absolutely lost control of it)

[russjaybee]

As a jets fan it's easy to hate most refs, mostly because we're crap.

[MFKS]

Not much to report on this week's referee. He has officiated a Jets match once in the past, our Round 2 0-0 draw with Perth Glory.

He made 4 booking on the day - a rare match where the Jets got fewer cards than the opposition.

That's about it...

No he hasn't

He definitely officiated the Rd 1 match V adelaide last season. Sent Birraz off for the ball striking his chest and had a ****ing shocker infuriating the locals.

Bloke is a shit ref and still owes us big time for that

[plague]

Riera out for the Kiwis.
How sad that the Jets chances have improved greatly because a backpacker playing for shits and giggles 12 months ago won't be in their team.

[Jetmaster]

Will win if Birraz learns to catch...

[militiamon]

Riera out for the Kiwis.
How sad that the Jets chances have improved greatly because a backpacker playing for shits and giggles 12 months ago won't be in their team.

Is Hernandez playing?

Carlos :wub:

[Jeterpool]

Is Hernandez playing?

Carlos :wub:

And miss the chance to come to the biggest KFC in the southern hempisphere!?

Come on militia - you're more switched on than that!

[GazFish35]

That just means he's traveling.

[Jeterpool]

That just means he's traveling.

Of course. Silly me

[lquiquer]

Will win if Birraz learns to catch...

And improve his kicking game

[namwob99]

Flick on NITV and have a look at the state of that ground. Farken tip top shape. Same owner and we still get treated like second class citizens. Still evident that these carnts don't care about football in this region!!

[hawk]

Flick on NITV and have a look at the state of that ground. Farken tip top shape. Same owner and we still get treated like second class citizens. Still evident that these carnts don't care about football in this region!!

apparently we dont own it. money doesnt talk here unlike rest of world.

[Jeterpool]

Game Day!!!!

[Zico]

Flick on NITV and have a look at the state of that ground. Farken tip top shape. Same owner and we still get treated like second class citizens. Still evident that these carnts don't care about football in this region!!
The fact that this game went ahead is a racist slur anyway. **** the NRL and their racist wankfest!

[Retro Jet]

Carn Jatz. Lets do it for NSW.
We don't want to let the side down now, do we?

Honestly, if we can't win this at home with their 'outs',
bring on the spoon!

[hawk]

Carn Jatz. Lets do it for NSW.
We don't want to let the side down now, do we?

Honestly, if we can't win this at home with their 'outs',
bring on the spoon!

what we said about vict perf & heart away. carn bris

[The Dunster]

We have no chance winning this one. Nix by four goals.

[halo se7en]

$10 on Jets to win 5-0. Heard it here first.

[boz-monaut]

that goal was entirely Caravella's fault

what a shit****

[boz-monaut]

our entire defence are shit cunce

**** them all in the arse

[halo se7en]

$10 on Jets to win 5-0. Heard it here first.

5-2 it will be then...

[ForeverRed]

Taggart needs to start holding the ball up, gives it away far to easy

[steve136]

ahh it's sad to think, griffo would be out there if he wasn't such an undisciplined sh*t.

i love griffo but bloody hell....

[Pico]

that goal was entirely Caravella's fault

what a shit****

caravella is a pro at stopping team mate's then running away from the attacker.

middleby get on the phone to your SFC mates and cut this bloke loose for next year.

[Thomas477]

Vs coasties we backed away and copped 2 goals from outside the 18.

Two weeks later, same shit happens. **** me, it's not difficult to put pressure on the ball carrier.

Also, I told you guys that that ref had no ****ing clue of what was happening.

[Dainnan]

Well that was a ****ing embarrassing and lethargic performance.

Probably one of the worst games I've seen this year punctuated by a couple of moments of decent play.

I think it's about time to forget about the zadkovic/caravella midfield combo. They're leaving the defence exposed too often. Hopefully Kanta has a miraculously quick recovery and replaces one of them or we go back to playing with 3 in the midfield.

Nice to see Goodwin get the two goals. Don't know how we managed to **** up and not score a couple more at the start of the second half when Goodwin was finding all kinds of space and there were giant ****ing holes in the Wellington defence...

[hawk]

Vs coasties we backed away and copped 2 goals from outside the 18.

Two weeks later, same shit happens. **** me, it's not difficult to put pressure on the ball carrier.

Also, I told you guys that that ref had no ****ing clue of what was happening.

this, get in their fking face and suffocate the b*tches so they have to go back, worse case is a free kick that goes over the bar

[sh10]

Where was Heskey? Missed the pre-game crap

[Dainnan]

this, get in their fking face and suffocate the b*tches so they have to go back, worse case is a free kick that goes over the bar

This. Did GVE surround himself with players who won't put in the effort or who don't have the determination and desire to win?

Reags was the only player I could see showing desire for most of the game and he was partly at fault for not putting the effort in for the nix goals.

[Thomas477]

Zads as well, and Taggart some times.

[Dainnan]

Zads as well, and Taggart some times.

I wasn't too impressed with Zads today. I feel like he isn't working as part of a 2 man midfield. It seems like he's been told to tone it down and not cover so much ground so the midfield isn't left short but as a result he seems to be in no mans land all the time. Doesn't really get involved in attack. Don't remember seeing him track back to help the defence when the Phoenix made a break, so where was he?

Tags ill agree on, but he tends to get frustrated in games like today and then get greedy towards the end and **** up some attacks..

[My2BobsWorth]

The honey pass was even better to watch than the goals, that's why we still keep turning up

[380]

We are just a shit team and will continue to pay the price of bringing GVE back for a second term for some time to come.

[stopper2]

We are just a shit team and will continue to pay the price of bringing GVE back for a second term for some time to come.
+1

[Guiltykeep]

Wouldn't mind seeing
Bk get a go surely he couldn't do any worse then what birra been doing last few games

[stockojet]

great stats. on todays game more inept crap. Galloway gotta go back to youth. Just gives the ball away too many times in bad spots. Too late for this season. Get Carney and Griffiths in and at least give them some pride for the rest of the season. lets start looking at next years squad and I feel poor Zanes career may be over b4 it starts thanks to these crocks

[Skirt Boy]

We have not won a game since I got my away shirt...........................

When we win a game I will show a photo of a girl playing with her self..............until the win happens. I will only show boring landscapes.

[BodyNovo]

We were shit

End of

[MFKS]

That ref was something ****ing special though.

How the Wellington bloke didnt get a yellow for deliberately manhandling Goody 15 times in the one play before actually succeeding in dragging him down is beyond me.

Still have no idea why we never got a penalty when Kew was violently pushed to the floor in the box?? The ref seen it and spoke with the culprit yet no action? WTF

How do these blokes get gigs at HAL level when they can't even get the basics right??

To top matters off the dumb **** even was about to **** up a restart when the Nix full back took a dive to the floor to stop the game. Instead of a throw in the dumb **** started moving up the park ordering a Nix free kick until enough abuse caused him to remember it was a ****ing throw in. FFS Amatuer

When the **** are we gonna get some competent officiating and heaven forbid an occasional home town decision??

As for those blokes in red and blue. Zads isn't a central midfielder for a good HAL side end of discussion get him out of there. Carravella is a ****ing liability. Those two were nowhere to be seen on each of the Nix goals. FFS Who is picking up KFC Hernandez??

PV 4 what were the Bridges stats??
I counted quite a few stupid turnovers and needless fouls. What does this bloke offer again???
Still struggle to understand how Kale can't get a look in but this bloke does

As for GALLAWAY that **** was doing my head in. Hopeless

Good to see Goody starting to return to some form/confidence but felt we overplayed our hand early in the second half by constantly going to him nearly every attack

[Jetmaster]

The spoon is within our grasp.

I reckon we should just throw Heskey, Griff, Carney and Bridges in from the start now. These kids are not consistent enough and just turn over the ball too easily.

And Birraz out....four goals in a row he made no effort to stop....at least try ffs!

[Pico]

PV 4 what were the Bridges stats??
I counted quite a few stupid turnovers and needless fouls. What does this bloke offer again???

attacking spark and impact :dry:

[MFKS]

The spoon is within our grasp.

I reckon we should just throw Heskey, Griff, Carney and Bridget in from the start now. These kids are not consistent enough.

And Birraz out....four goals in a row he made no effort to stop....at least try ffs!

?????
Umm He was fully outstretched for the winner. Shot was far too good.

All of them had **** all to do with him. The 10 other clowns in front of him need to learn to close opponents down and not show them time space and their stronger foot on the top of the box. Amateur Hour play at best

Can't expect the Keeper to bail out shit like that over and over again

[Dainnan]

PV 4 what were the Bridges stats??
I counted quite a few stupid turnovers and needless fouls. What does this bloke offer again???
Still struggle to understand how Kale can't get a look in but this bloke does


I'm no PV4, but I can give you some Bridges stats (had to do something to keep myself amused at the end of the game with the drivel we served up):

4 turnovers (3 of which were in attacking positions and wasting all of our momentum)
3 or 4 completed passes out of about 9
2 stupid fouls

1 key pass (oh wait, Taggs was called offside so that one doesn't count...)

Agree on the ref, was a pathetic display by him capped off by the lack of yellows you described and the **** up with the throw in/free kick fiasco. Goody was remonstrating with the ref about that one for about 30 seconds before the ref realised it was meant to be a throw in- shows how much attention the refs actually pay to the players.

[Jetmaster]

I hate them all....bring back Con, go back to gold and start over again.

The Tinkler years are a pox so far.

[MFKS]

I hate them all....bring back Con, go back to gold and start over again.

The Tinkler years are a pox so far.

Was thinking something similar. Going to the blue and red has been shit for us.

Going back to the Gold is a good idea but if we are changing colours again make it E&C

E&C all the way

[The Dunster]

Why do the players hate us so much ?

[belchardo]

We have not won a game since I got my away shirt...........................

same here

[pv4]

I liked Gibbs when he came on.

[hawk]

And Birraz out....four goals in a row he made no effort to stop....at least try ffs!

saved 3 1 on 1's in the 2nd half.

[plague]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/27944553/836873758.0_standard_709.0.gif
who gives a toss, i took the $3.15
shame on some of you for not realizing the blindingly obvious.

[MFKS]

I liked Gibbs when he came on.

Some grade A Gypo solidarity there.:sparring::yeahright::sup:

Actually didn't think he was the worst. Better option than Ward/Bridges will ever be. Feel he is more suited to the 10 than the 9.

Still don't rate him though

[Hunter403]

What a load of unmitigated crap.
Their first 2 goals came from wayward short passes in our own back third from that oxygen thief Galloway and Goodwin. Their 3rd came as NO ONE put any pressure on an opposition player 20m out and directly in front!
When our defence stops a high ball, 90% of the time Wellington got the scraps. When their defence dealt with high balls they got the scraps. This is an example of the complete lack of linkage by our midfield with our defence and attack.
We were constantly beaten to the ball all afternoon.
Any penetration (insert rude joke here) we had came from the flanks so we replaced those two players with an old central striker and a defensive midfield player and went route 1 to a short central stinker! F*ck me can anyone else see this!!
Sure Goodwin second twice but he is so easily pushed off the ball.
Caravella back to his "roundabout" best in attack. He did pull off a few good tackles however.
Who is the bald bloke with the captain's armband? I don't recognise him at all.
Galloway. Muppet. Arse Clown. Numpty. You choose. He is a joke. No wonder their right side players got cramp:they had a field day on our left as Goodwin rarely chases back and Galloway is beyond belief. God, I hope Carney gets fit fast.
Why don't we shoot from 20m? We rarely score from a cross as a)our crossing is crap and b)we are short in height up front without Heskey.

I need a drink.To lose to that Kiwi shower of sh!t

596

[sammydog]

Vs coasties we backed away and copped 2 goals from outside the 18.

Two weeks later, same shit happens. **** me, it's not difficult to put pressure on the ball carrier.

Also, I told you guys that that ref had no ****ing clue of what was happening.

The sooner HSG and Tinkler **** off, the sooner we can have a club thats proud of again.


I hate them all....bring back Con, go back to gold and start over again.

The Tinkler years are a pox so far.

[sammydog]

same here

I'll putt my hand up as well, no wins since I took one home.

[howardyou]

I liked Gibbs when he came on.

Great trolling here. Otherwise you are watching the games with your eyes painted on.

[pv4]

Great trolling here. Otherwise you are watching the games with your eyes painted on.

No trolling. He attempted the type of passes Bridges does but actually hit feet

[Thomas477]

Wouldn't mind seeing
Bk get a go surely he couldn't do any worse then what birra been doing last few games

What else could Biraz have done for their goals? The first Biraz was slightly off balance when Hernandez hit it, and couldn't have done much more anyway. The defence should have pressured him more. The second, Hysugems mis-hit it. He was trying to belt it to Biraz's right, which Biraz was going towards, but he mishit it and it goes into the other side. And as for the third, he hit it into the bottom corner and once again, the defence gave him all the time in the world to hit it.

I would be looking at Regz and Kew before I would Biraz.

[howardyou]

What else could Biraz have done for their goals? The first Biraz was slightly off balance when Hernandez hit it, and couldn't have done much more anyway. The defence should have pressured him more. The second, Hysugems mis-hit it. He was trying to belt it to Biraz's right, which Biraz was going towards, but he mishit it and it goes into the other side. And as for the third, he hit it into the bottom corner and once again, the defence gave him all the time in the world to hit it.

I would be looking at Regz and Kew before I would Biraz.

Kew had a horrible game. He was marking space and was ball watching for 2 of 3 goals.

[MFKS]

Kew had a horrible game. He was marking space and was ball watching for 2 of 3 goals.

Both Taylor and Kew need to hang their heads in shame about their efforts when defending the goals. Biggest issue is where were the Centre Mids protecting the space directly in front of them. They were not there. The same space Kanta would be plugging

[Grimario]

Both Taylor and Kew need to hang their heads in shame about their efforts when defending the goals. Biggest issue is where were the Centre Mids protecting the space directly in front of them. They were not there. The same space Kanta would be plugging

How fkn good is Kanta? We miss him so much at the moment.

[q-money]

poor old kew

i guess just like everyone else in the z-league, you eventually regress to the mean

[MFKS]

How fkn good is Kanta? We miss him so much at the moment.


To me this isn't a reflection on the merits of Kantas play but more so the incompetence Zads Beard Caravella etc show in Central midfield to not actually play their position properly and protect the back 4

[pv4]

poor old kew

i guess just like everyone else in the z-league, you eventually regress to the mean

:rof: I'd love for someone to find my old posts, particularly around Kew signing and also after the first two gamedays, how I said I can't wait for everyone to turn on him just like they did Tiago.

[MFKS]

On another note the attitudes of our players needs to be looked at.

Goodwin scores a great second goal 50 seconds into the second half to level things up and half the ****s care that much about this it takes half a minute to get to him to celebrate.

FFS ****s

This is one key reason why we are shit. They ain't ****ing passionate enough about the shirt, the club,, the town, the fans and each other

**** Em

[howardyou]

:rof: I'd love for someone to find my old posts, particularly around Kew signing and also after the first two gamedays, how I said I can't wait for everyone to turn on him just like they did Tiago.

I like the bloke. Great defender usually and very underrated. But had a shocker today. Unlike others i'm not afraid to say when one of my favourites doesn't play well or does silly things......

But i hope you are not defending (pun intended) Tiago. That fella was a liability. Even to Sydney.

[pv4]

I still love and miss Tiago. The dude did any and everything to win.

[Pico]

I still love and miss Tiago. The dude did any and everything to win.

geez our current lot could use a sprinkle of his desire.

do the players legit hate the fans or what, they seem to really have no connection with the fan base the way previous players have, for a smaller club usually the players become a big part of the connection with the club but these days I don't have that same feeling. besides regz, hoole & Griff they just don't seem all that interested, perhaps because they are a very young team, I'm not sure, one things for sure I long for the days of vigs, ljubo,disco, Griff, etc blokes who played for the shirt and loved the fans.

[q-money]

ban them from getting tattoos and stupid haircuts.

[joel31]

Goodwin is back

[joel31]

But our defence goes crap to balance it out so the usual result occurs

[militiamon]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/27944553/836873758.0_standard_709.0.gif
who gives a toss, i took the $3.15
shame on some of you for not realizing the blindingly obvious.

wd plague

[Pico]

But our defence goes crap to balance it out so the usual result occurs
so we have also gained consistency?

[pudy]

May as well take the youth team to Brisbane now.. at least they put in for the shirt week in week out.

Absolute disgrace today.

[la bazzle]

Scrap the club. Downward spiral for years. Give licence to Northern Fury.

Only Griff can save us now, by save us I mean make it a little more entertaining

[Skirt Boy]

I've seen better defending when playing as a right back for Hotspurs against Hamo getting smacked 5-0 after the first ten minutes.

[Tommyjet]

Both Taylor and Kew need to hang their heads in shame about their efforts when defending the goals. Biggest issue is where were the Centre Mids protecting the space directly in front of them. They were not there. The same space Kanta would be plugging

This

[WolfMan]

Goodwin is back

Took this as the positive for us. Those goals will do his confidence the world of good. Hopefully he kicks on now and backs himself

[leftrightout]

Taggart must be hating playing in that team. How many great runs did he make and never receive the ball?
Not just not get the ball, but i reckon our midfield still doesn't even know he has run!

Gallaway gotta go, regan and kew were disgraceful. Anyone putting any blame on Birras surely has to be kidding! Opposition midfield has the ball on edge of our box and our centre backs are sitting on the f*cking penalty spot.....
f*ck me!
Also hard to play with a midfield not capable of playing a straight forward pass.... Zads and Carravella not good enough for A-league level!

Goodwin the obvious positive but i agree with someone earlier in the thread, we did start to over play him in the second half!

[la bazzle]

On another note the attitudes of our players needs to be looked at.

Goodwin scores a great second goal 50 seconds into the second half to level things up and half the ****s care that much about this it takes half a minute to get to him


Yeah it was pretty wierd hey? Goodwin looked stoked (obviously) but the others didn't seem all that pumped up about it.
Definitely is a reason fans aren't connecting with this group of pretenders. Gallagay ffs Zane said he'd been playing well lately....Zane out

[Jetmaster]

After a drunken analysis last night I can reflect more maturely.

Overall, it is the midfield that is costing us and that is flowing on to the rest of the team. They are either letting the opposition slalom through them or not having the skill or vision to put through the correct pass when attacking.

Galloway is a problem but Taylor and Kew can only paper over so many holes. I too, noticed that Taggart made some great runs yesterday but nobody saw them. Is it at all possible for Griff to play the number 10 with Taggs and Heskey up front?

Ruben has lost it since GVE was sacked which is bizarre - the hunger either isn't there, or he has been told to cool it.

The young guns were poor yesterday apart from Goody.., guys turn over the ball, or kick it out with NO pressure on them - pathetic.

I was hard on Birraz yesterday but maintain that he has some issues with dominating his area - have a look at those first couple of minutes. I am thinking he is in the same position as Covic in his last season - I truly believe his mind is somewhere in Europe.

Heskey and Carney in next week and Griff the week after - we don't have any time left. I can't see another miracle against the Roar next week.

[Jeterpool]

Just realised Hoole is suspended next week - 5 yellow cards

[GazFish35]

geez our current lot could use a sprinkle of his desire.

do the players legit hate the fans or what, they seem to really have no connection with the fan base the way previous players have, for a smaller club usually the players become a big part of the connection with the club but these days I don't have that same feeling. besides regz, hoole & Griff they just don't seem all that interested, perhaps because they are a very young team, I'm not sure, one things for sure I long for the days of vigs, ljubo,disco, Griff, etc blokes who played for the shirt and loved the fans.

100% agreed..
i think part of this is from what i think the previous recruitment policy has been. promise young kids if they come here theyll get a start and they can showcase their talents and use the club as a stepping stone to somewhere else.

We are not a ****ing shop window
We are not a stop on your footballing "journey".
We are not a ****ing stepping stone.

if you wear our colours, play with some ****ing pride, or **** off.
locals only, or guys like griff, ljubes, vigs etc etc

PS new chant....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCM7qcRyfKo

[380]

On another note the attitudes of our players needs to be looked at.

Goodwin scores a great second goal 50 seconds into the second half to level things up and half the ****s care that much about this it takes half a minute to get to him to celebrate.

FFS ****s

This is one key reason why we are shit. They ain't ****ing passionate enough about the shirt, the club,, the town, the fans and each other

**** Em

How true , i recorded the game and just took a look at this and i gotta say how bad does that look ?.

[russjaybee]

From scanning this thread this is what I have to say ...

- Bridges should not be getting game time, made a particular effort to watch his "impact" when he came on. At a time when it was extremely important for us to maintain pressure and not give the ball away cheaply he did simply that. How many opportunities has he had to make an impact of the bench to no avail. Give it up.

- Brillante should be in midfield.

- Gallaway was continually caught out.

- We were over-run and out played in the midfield in the second half

- People saying Phoenix are a "shower of shit" might want to check their form over the last few games, if you expected us to beat them then you're delirious. IMO they clearly were favourites coming in to this game.

- Taggart makes good runs but his hold up play could use work.

- Whoever was calling for Birraz out and BK in is deluded.

- We're shit.


Edit: Also was funny and not surprising to hear we have the worst pass completion percentage in the league. Top work GvE with your passing possession style....

[Grimario]

- Brillante should be in midfield.
- Gallaway was continually caught out.

Carney in, Neville magically recovered and that sorts that out. He hasn't even played yet but I almost hope we keep Carney for long term. He's better than bog standard A-League quality, even if he isn't up to scratch to the dizzying heights he found himself at.


- We were over-run and out played in the midfield in the second half
Kanta + Beard + (I guess) Rubez in midfield sorts out the last one. Rubez needs to be let off his leash and just run around like a mad cvnt. He isn't specifically good enough at anything else and without his constant presence EVERYWHERE (with Kanta doing the defensive filling), he isn't worth a spot on the field, let alone the captaincy. Probably an unpopular opinion really but meh. I am in Adelaide now, Zads Lads can't touch me :lulz:


- Taggart makes good runs but his hold up play could use work.
Yeah, if only we had a big strong target man to hold the ball up better. Shame he has gone to complete turd this season (and half of last).

[Pico]

I'm with you on zads grim. I fully expect the next coach to drop him to the bench. Midfield of Kanta & Beard with a creative mid working in front of them.

Hopefully for the next game we see Carney at left back and move gallaway across onto the right which should suit him a bit better. This would let beard return to the centre and rid the team of the roundabout.

I really hope Bridges gets the starting att mid spot, he needs to start as many of the upcoming games as possible, last thing we need is him limping into another contract next year but the only way I can see that being avoided is if people see him get consecutive major minutes from the start in his preferred position, and why not against Brisbane, we'll need his "impact" to try and claw our way back from the demolition Brisha and his mates are going to unload on us.

[MFKS]

I'm with you on zads grim. I fully expect the next coach to drop him to the bench. Midfield of Kanta & Beard with a creative mid working in front of them.

Hopefully for the next game we see Carney at left back and move gallaway across onto the right which should suit him a bit better. This would let beard return to the centre and rid the team of the roundabout.

I really hope Bridges gets the starting att mid spot, he needs to start as many of the upcoming games as possible, last thing we need is him limping into another contract next year but the only way I can see that being avoided is if people see him get consecutive major minutes from the start in his preferred position, and why not against Brisbane, we'll need his "impact" to try and claw our way back from the demolition Brisha and his mates are going to unload on us.

Take some meds son.

You have just called for the inclusion of Bridges into the starting side and the retention of Galloway after an AIDS like performance yesterday all in the one post

FFS

Your off your rocker

[Grimario]

Take some meds son.

You have just called for the inclusion of Bridges into the starting side and the retention of Galloway after an AIDS like performance yesterday all in the one post

FFS

Your off your rocker

Why? Season is a write off - best thing to do is to give Bridges game time to show just how garbage he is instead of fanbois going "oh but he only gets a few minutes at the end of games, that's not enough to show how awesome he is". And we don't have a right back of any sort. Ours got a season ending injury so we SIGNED NICK WARD as a replacement. Are we better off playing Pepper (not good enough), Gallaway (not good enough), Brillante (good enough but better in midfield) or Hoole (is he good enough?) as our right back?

Watch us play Carney there next weekend.

[MFKS]

Why? Season is a write off - best thing to do is to give Bridges game time to show just how garbage he is instead of fanbois going "oh but he only gets a few minutes at the end of games, that's not enough to show how awesome he is". And we don't have a right back of any sort. Ours got a season ending injury so we SIGNED NICK WARD as a replacement. Are we better off playing Pepper (not good enough), Gallaway (not good enough), Brillante (good enough but better in midfield) or Hoole (is he good enough?) as our right back?

Watch us play Carney there next weekend.

Last thing in the world we need to do is give Bridges a start. We jag a win (law of probability says we are overdue also) and the bloke will be hailed as the messiah and given a new ****ing contract.

Disagree the season is a right off. I know we are shit and are a miracle that ain't coming (Griffo and his magic touch not withstanding) to be there finals time but we shouldn't be ****ing conceding now otherwise we are as soft as our ****ing players.

We do so have a ****ing right back we just play him out of position in centre midfield coz some ****s think h=he has good engines and likes running around like a headless chook yet contributes **** all there. The bloke is a moral to make a good right back if he got put there

[Pico]

Take some meds son.

You have just called for the inclusion of Bridges into the starting side and the retention of Galloway after an AIDS like performance yesterday all in the one post

FFS

Your off your rocker

yeah because the alternative has been so productive. The even remote possibility Bridges could be re-signed for another year frustrates me immensely, another squad spot taken up, more salary cap wasted and a wasted bench spot every week, then the inevitable wasted possession.

As for Gallaway he's no Neville, but who else will we play there Beard is wasted there. Personally I'd love to see us actually promote a youth league back but the fact we went and signed ward says to me the coaching staff have no trust what so ever in the youth players and they think gallaway is better, now that's saying something.

Some still think this season has hope, I disagree, I believe it has already reached the write off stage. Time to start taking our medicine so we can start healing for next year. Lets sort out the players we think can be kept, the players that need to go & find out which of the youth team has the ability to step up. Then clear the slate for the new manager. Have the club management cut the deadwood free, from coaching staff & assistants to first team squad and youth.

Enough of these half arsed re builds, if your going to do it doing ****ing properly.

My hit list would be Bridges, Roundabout, Gallaway, Chilli, Heskey, Zads, Brown, Deans, Dodd. Middleby

[Grimario]

I love Pico.

It has nothing to do with one of my posts being his sig.

[seldom]

hope the puddle is available next week

[Jeterpool]

hope the puddle is available next week

Haven't seen him since the service from midfield dried up

[belchardo]

almost seems like he's evaporated in to thin air.

[Thomas477]

:gent:

On Zad, beard and Kanta, we have 3 great centre mids, why the **** don't we play a formation that will suit them? We bagged GvE for not playing a system that fits in with the players, but here we are, proposing to drop one of the Onky players who actually gave a shit for the jersey! We can easily fit all three in the starting 11.

[MFKS]

:gent:

On Zad, beard and Kanta, we have 3 great centre mids, why the **** don't we play a formation that will suit them? We bagged GvE for not playing a system that fits in with the players, but here we are, proposing to drop one of the Onky players who actually gave a shit for the jersey! We can easily fit all three in the starting 11.

Most important point here is that you claim they are great centre mids. I will retort that they are average plodders at best. Kanta and Beard may yet develop into good CM's but at this time they ain't GREAT

IT IS ALMOST AS ****ED UP AS SAYING MIDDLEBY IS A GREAT CEO

[Thomas477]

Most important point here is that you claim they are great centre mids. I will retort that they are average plodders at best. Kanta and Beard may yet develop into good CM's but at this time they ain't GREAT

IT IS ALMOST AS ****ED UP AS SAYING MIDDLEBY IS A GREAT CEO

*Great for us in comparison to the other players at our disposal.

[The General]

Why? Season is a write off - best thing to do is to give Bridges game time to show just how garbage he is instead of fanbois going "oh but he only gets a few minutes at the end of games, that's not enough to show how awesome he is". And we don't have a right back of any sort. Ours got a season ending injury so we SIGNED NICK WARD as a replacement. Are we better off playing Pepper (not good enough), Gallaway (not good enough), Brillante (good enough but better in midfield) or Hoole (is he good enough?) as our right back?

Watch us play Carney there next weekend.

Zadkovic at right back. Surely he can deliver a cross past the first man

[skippy]

Zadkovic at right back. Surely he can deliver a cross past the first man

Past the 1st man, over the goal, into the crowd sure no worries.