diver dan del piero

[stockojet]

What a shame our beautiful game has blights like diving. Del piero is no football god to me. I wish he would go back to Italy where diving is accepted and stay there. Do i want my kids to be as good as him as a footballer? Of course. Do I want my kids to be the sort of person he is? NO WAY. Take Heskey back with you as He couldnt score in a brothel with a bag of $100 notes. So pathetic now he cant even hang his foot out in the way. Unlucky jets. If only you played like that week to week we'd be up in 3rd. Tough lesson. No killer up front, no creative playmaker. Bring on 2014/2015

[Thomas477]

Was that you on the ABC?

And it'll be the same next year, as long as HSG and Middleby are in charge.

[WolfMan]

What a shame our beautiful game has blights like diving. Del piero is no football god to me. I wish he would go back to Italy where diving is accepted and stay there. Do i want my kids to be as good as him as a footballer? Of course. Do I want my kids to be the sort of person he is? NO WAY. Take Heskey back with you as He couldnt score in a brothel with a bag of $100 notes. So pathetic now he cant even hang his foot out in the way. Unlucky jets. If only you played like that week to week we'd be up in 3rd. Tough lesson. No killer up front, no creative playmaker. Bring on 2014/2015

Couldn't agree more. The most frustrating thing is a player as good as del Piero shouldn't have to cheat/dive. But he does, and that makes me forget about all the things he does right. Disgrace of a player

[hawk]

its up to the ref to not call it. nude nut is always influenced by the big clubs

[Buddha]

Wake up Panda. Heskey is absolute class but lacks the support around him, except griffo but for some FUBAR reason he goes off when griff goes on

[sammydog]

Thats what shits me about Del Piero. Absolute class player who does not have to resort to rolling around or tonights swan dive.

As great a player he is, the shit he carries on with for me completely counteract his class on the ball.

All the while though, the football media will go into a collective circle jerk again about how smart he is a drawing in players and the foul. Give me a break, he is a cheating prick and the MRP should, but won't look at it.

Thing is, if he hadn't dived tonight, I have very little doubt that Regan would have still given away the foul. So why dive?

[joel31]

I started a thread like this after first game of season

[weston]

Thing is, if he hadn't dived tonight, I have very little doubt that Regan would have still given away the foul. So why dive?

This.

2 things pissed me off with the penalty. Del Piers was already throwing himself forward before contact was made. As far as I'm concerned thats a dive regardless of whether contact was made after that or not.

Second Birrighitti`s yellow card. It was for timewasting wasn't it? If so, how can he be time wasting if the ball hasn't been placed yet???

[Mitchy]

Won them the game

Legend

[MFKS]

This.

2 things pissed me off with the penalty. Del Piers was already throwing himself forward before contact was made. As far as I'm concerned thats a dive regardless of whether contact was made after that or not.

Second Birrighitti`s yellow card. It was for timewasting wasn't it? If so, how can he be time wasting if the ball hasn't been placed yet???

Agree it was a bit hard to understand when the ball wasn't placed.

That being said he was up doing the gamesmanship thing and the ref most likely told him to get on the line and he didn't so was probably fair enough

[sammydog]

Won them the game

Legend

Wouldn't care if we had a player that won us the game that way. Its shouldn't be tolerated.

[plague]

Wouldn't care if we had a player that won us the game that way. Its shouldn't be tolerated.
Bhah.
Gotta do what you can for the win.
#jimmyholland4lyf

[front2]

Bhah.
Gotta do what you can for the win.
#jimmyholland4lyf

So now you are telling me that it was not Griffs hand of god

[plague]

Ummmm. What the **** are you lot going on aboot?
It was a clear penalty.

[plague]

So now you are telling me that it was not Griffs hand of god
Griffs will made Jimmy see the light and perform miracles on Earth in His name.
Hail Griff.

[militiamon]

Ummmm. What the **** are you lot going on aboot?
It was a clear penalty.

lol, exactly.

And agree with Mitchy, it was a quality piece of play. I think Regan is a quality defender, but there's no doubt Del Piero schooled him on this one.

[weston]

Ummmm. What the **** are you lot going on aboot?
It was a clear penalty.

I'm just shitty as you can tell he was going down before Regan even tackled him. So if Regan had not of got to him than Del Piero would of been hitting the dirt anyway.

[howardyou]

I'm just shitty as you can tell he was going down before Regan even tackled him. So if Regan had not of got to him than Del Piero would of been hitting the dirt anyway.

Yep. seeing the video, it looks like it was going to be a clear penalty. But ADP just fell into it a split second too early. Plus he went up and over.....

[The Dunster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME

We do not want this shit in the A-league.

ADP GTFO of our league.

[northern_swan]

The behind the goal video is the kicker.

If you watch his feet as Regans leg is planted, you can clearly see ADPs feet square up and from there you watch his calves contract and his feet point (plantiflexion). This is how you jump. If contact from Regan caused the fall, ADP feet would have come off the ground at different times and he would have fallen in an unorthodox fashion.

tl;dr

The pr!ck is a diving cheat

621

[parksey]

He is a dog but aye

[GazFish35]

I love how people blame the defender, "he shouldn't have given him something to dive over"


I'd love to see the reaction if all defenders stopped playing within the rules because they know attackers are trying to play outside of them.

I hope reegs found him the carpark later and gave him something to hit the ground for.

I don't buy all this "intelligent" bullshit, adp scams his way to free kicks and its bullshit.

Draw a foul through smart play.... and get fouled, good for you. Draw a mistake from a defender and turn it into a penalty by initiating the contact yourself is beyond bullshit.

[Grimario]

Who cares? We couldn't score a ****ing goal, losing 1-0 is just as much of a loss as losing 2-0.

**** the Jets.

[The Dunster]

Everyone in bay three watched Del Piero swan dive well before he ever made contact with the defender.
Many of them were laughing as it was so comical and obviously not worthy of a penalty for anyone else in the league other than ADP.

I look forward to the match review panel doing sweet **** all about this cheating Kunt.

[sammydog]

Draw a foul through smart play.... and get fouled, good for you. Draw a mistake from a defender and turn it into a penalty by initiating the contact yourself is beyond bullshit.

Problem last night was that he was well into his dive before contact was made.

I have no doubt if he didn't dive, Regan was giving away a penalty, but the fact he was flying before contact should negate what was going to happen. he should have been carded for the dive. Another one for the MRP to ignore.

[The Dunster]

Rather than put labels on Del Piero, perhaps we should point fingers at the naive defenders who rush in on him with mistimed tackles.


Perhaps coaches should tell their players that, when facing ADP with the ball at his feet, they should avoid rushing in and instead drop off, making sure that players ADP might intend to pass to are well marked and covered.

I accept that Del Piero's proficiency at winning free kicks must be frustrating for his opponents. There are ways of stopping him if you are good, organised and smart.

But you won't beat him by expecting referees to dish out cards for diving when no diving exists.

Twitter: @lesmurraySBS.

Les Murray - kill, yourself.

[stopper2]

Treat a champion with contempt or disrespect and you will pay....that is the motto that we as Jets supporters should take on board. Just a minute or so before the penalty, Brillante dished out a rather crude challenge on ADP that was waved away by Delovski. The crowd around Bay 3-4 gave ADP a bit of a razzing as he got gingerly to his feet....I thought the last thing you want to do is get this bloke pissed off and fired up. Within a minute or so ADP had the ball back within the box and you just knew what he had in mind, Regan unfortunately should have received some back-up instead of having to deal with ADP one-on-one in such a dangerous position.
From the moment he got the ball into the box his intention was to get a penalty...his mentality is to win and if that means using cunning and guile (some call it cheating) to achieve that win then he is a player who will pull out all stops to do it. I wish our team would have a bit more cunning and guile about them...maybe then we would score more goals!!!

[MFKS]

Just like to point out that some bloke called Joel Griffiths won us a free kick when he was running away from the goal and tothe corner flag. There was absolutely minimal contact from the defender. He just got to close to Griffo and Griffo made sure he got in the way.

Me I have absolutely no issue with the pen. My issue is more with the fact he dived rather than milked it as such which he would have got anyway as Taylor was naive

[sammydog]

Me I have absolutely no issue with the pen. My issue is more with the fact he dived rather than milked it as such which he would have got anyway as Taylor was naive

That is exactly right. If he hadn't thrown himself theatrically through the air, contact with Regan was always going to occur resulting in the Pen. So why ham it up to such an extent?

[hawk]

del tha deigo can he fake it

[The Dunster]

Treat a champion with contempt or disrespect and you will pay....that is the motto that we as Jets supporters should take on board. Just a minute or so before the penalty, Brillante dished out a rather crude challenge on ADP that was waved away by Delovski. The crowd around Bay 3-4 gave ADP a bit of a razzing as he got gingerly to his feet....I thought the last thing you want to do is get this bloke pissed off and fired up. Within a minute or so ADP had the ball back within the box and you just knew what he had in mind, Regan unfortunately should have received some back-up instead of having to deal with ADP one-on-one in such a dangerous position.
From the moment he got the ball into the box his intention was to get a penalty...his mentality is to win and if that means using cunning and guile (some call it cheating) to achieve that win then he is a player who will pull out all stops to do it. I wish our team would have a bit more cunning and guile about them...maybe then we would score more goals!!!

What bay were you watching the incident from ? I am guessing not bay three because I seriously doubt that anyone in that bay saw it as a legitimate penalty.

ADP swan dived then made contact with Regan - It was never a case of contact being made then ADP being flung into the air.

ADP is a Pezzo di merda not a champion.

[stopper2]

What bay were you watching the incident from ? I am guessing not bay three because I seriously doubt that anyone in that bay saw it as a legitimate penalty.

ADP swan dived then made contact with Regan - It was never a case of contact being made then ADP being flung into the air.

ADP is a Pezzo di merda not a champion.

Listen Dunster I am a little disappointed that a player like ADP has to resort to this in order to win a pen but I am more pissed that our own supporters instead of getting behind the team when the chips were down were more concerned with booing or heckling ADP. We never gave our team a chance. The truth is that nowadays (apart from the Squadron) the home crowd at Hunter stadium is a reactive crowd rather than a proactive one. The "support" is governed by what happens i.e a referees decision or in this case ADP "milking" a pen, rather then the crowd spontaneously getting behind the team because we want them to win. There seems to be a real lack of connection with the team.

[The Dunster]

There seems to be a real lack of connection with the team.

True. But considering they put their cues in the rack after the penalty goal they certainly don't make it easy for the supporters.

The fix is easy on paper but not so easy in practice. Getting the team out of Hunter Stadium would be a good start along with having football people running the club rather than HSG.

HSG saved the club and all but is what we have now even worth having ? Sure it's better than not having a team but it's not easy being a fan of this team either.

[Pico]

Listen Dunster I am a little disappointed that a player like ADP has to resort to this in order to win a pen but I am more pissed that our own supporters instead of getting behind the team when the chips were down were more concerned with booing or heckling ADP. We never gave our team a chance. The truth is that nowadays (apart from the Squadron) the home crowd at Hunter stadium is a reactive crowd rather than a proactive one. The "support" is governed by what happens i.e a referees decision or in this case ADP "milking" a pen, rather then the crowd spontaneously getting behind the team because we want them to win. There seems to be a real lack of connection with the team.

Probably because the team does not look to even remotely want to connect with the fans. HSG and GVE insisted that we needed a new culture at this club and they delivered, if only we had known this rubbish was the culture they intended on bringing in.

No passion for the shirt, no pride in the performance, no respect for the city or fans, and the stench of entitlement if anyone so much as questions their performance's, they aren't true fans etc etc.

I've never felt a greater disconnect from the players and club, they don't care and the results and effort reflect that. At least when we used to lose we had bloke's that would bleed gold for the shirt, the city and it's fans. Blokes that would face up to citiscm head on and demand more of themselves, blokes who would never disrespect the fans. It's not so much the pain of losing, it's the lack of any heart in the performance.

[Jeterpool]

Listen Dunster I am a little disappointed that a player like ADP has to resort to this in order to win a pen but I am more pissed that our own supporters instead of getting behind the team when the chips were down were more concerned with booing or heckling ADP. We never gave our team a chance. The truth is that nowadays (apart from the Squadron) the home crowd at Hunter stadium is a reactive crowd rather than a proactive one. The "support" is governed by what happens i.e a referees decision or in this case ADP "milking" a pen, rather then the crowd spontaneously getting behind the team because we want them to win. There seems to be a real lack of connection with the team.

I really can see where you're coming from re?: Del Piero - believe me. But how many of them chased the penalty in once it was being taken?? One....Griffiths.

I'm not as big a Griffiths fan as many on here, but hell he's starting to win me over because he simply wants to win, he has a bit of game smarts.

But it's the little things like that, after we've been behind them all game, all season, etc, that I simply shake my head at and wonder whether they give a toss. I'm not saying they don't care (i'm sure they do!) but their actions have to reflect their committment.

[hausmann]

Probably because the team does not look to even remotely want to connect with the fans. HSG and GVE insisted that we needed a new culture at this club and they delivered, if only we had known this rubbish was the culture they intended on bringing in.

No passion for the shirt, no pride in the performance, no respect for the city or fans, and the stench of entitlement if anyone so much as questions their performance's, they aren't true fans etc etc.

I've never felt a greater disconnect from the players and club, they don't care and the results and effort reflect that. At least when we used to lose we had bloke's that would bleed gold for the shirt, the city and it's fans. Blokes that would face up to citiscm head on and demand more of themselves, blokes who would never disrespect the fans. It's not so much the pain of losing, it's the lack of any heart in the performance.

+1000

[russjaybee]

When I watched on the telly yes he made the most of the contact but anyone arguing it's not a pen is deluded. If he had simply kept running straight he would have run in to Regan's leg and it would have impeded him, instead he flung himself at it. Doesn't really make that much difference in the end.

Regan gave it to him on a platter.

[Nou Camp]

regardless it wouldve been 1-0 anyways
we are by far the most boring team in the comp

would rather lose 5-3 everyweek and at least make it a bit more exciting

[belchardo]

regardless it wouldve been 1-0 anyways
we are by far the most boring team in the comp

would rather lose 5-3 everyweek and at least make it a bit more exciting

why don't you just go back to your hungry jacks mr negative.

:D

[halo se7en]

Probably because the team does not look to even remotely want to connect with the fans. HSG and GVE insisted that we needed a new culture at this club and they delivered, if only we had known this rubbish was the culture they intended on bringing in.

No passion for the shirt, no pride in the performance, no respect for the city or fans, and the stench of entitlement if anyone so much as questions their performance's, they aren't true fans etc etc.

I've never felt a greater disconnect from the players and club, they don't care and the results and effort reflect that. At least when we used to lose we had bloke's that would bleed gold for the shirt, the city and it's fans. Blokes that would face up to citiscm head on and demand more of themselves, blokes who would never disrespect the fans. It's not so much the pain of losing, it's the lack of any heart in the performance.

Spot on. HSG should be ****ing thankful that so many people keep turning up to watch such shite after 4 seasons. Imagine if we had a team that was consistently making the finals and occasionally winning the thing? Most other teams would love the support our team has. And yeah we may not be as vocal as some stopper2, but at least we turn up. We've more than played our part over the last few years. At what point should we start expecting even a minimal return?? Because we ain't getting shit. Even when we lose, we rarely get goals, and even more rare are they actually decent. If we're going to lose, at least give us something to cheer about, even if it only lasts 5 minutes.

[Jeterpool]

At least when we used to lose we had bloke's that would bleed gold for the shirt, the city and it's fans. Blokes that would face up to citiscm head on and demand more of themselves, blokes who would never disrespect the fans. It's not so much the pain of losing, it's the lack of any heart in the performance.

You've hit the nail on the head for me Pico.

The players may well feel strongly about the shirt, however I don't see how this in the way they play either...

[Pico]

You've hit the nail on the head for me Pico.

The players may well feel strongly about the shirt, however I don't see how this in the way they play either...

The players can say whatever they want, so too the PR spin kings at HSG, actions speak louder then words and this group of players is shouting their feelings from the roof tops with every performance.

The irony for me was we were told we had to get rid of blokes like Elrich because he wasn't up to it, and if I'm honest I agreed we needed more, but watching some of these players I'd kill to have someone like Elrich who actually gave a damn about the club back. Its not like our crossing has improved with him being moved on either, pretty sure he could show Gallaway a thing or two about how to take a throw in too.

[The Dunster]

There are a lot of opinions on the foz about all things football. But when it comes down to the performance of the team, attitude of the players, the coaching, and HSG there appears to be a general consensus.

[hawk]

The players can say whatever they want, so too the PR spin kings at HSG, actions speak louder then words and this group of players is shouting their feelings from the roof tops with every performance.

The irony for me was we were told we had to get rid of blokes like Elrich because he wasn't up to it, and if I'm honest I agreed we needed more, but watching some of these players I'd kill to have someone like Elrich who actually gave a damn about the club back. Its not like our crossing has improved with him being moved on either, pretty sure he could show Gallaway a thing or two about how to take a throw in too.

we thought they would have improved personel, boy did they eat sh1t on that score

[scarfy96]

Regan unfortunately should have received some back-up instead of having to deal with ADP one-on-one in such a dangerous position.

Had Caravella been there he could have saved us the penalty, tripped Regan first and then ADP could have just scored in open play ;)

[Jeterpool]

Had Caravella been there he could have saved us the penalty, tripped Regan first and then ADP could have just scored in open play ;)

This is my new signature

[GazFish35]

Had Caravella been there he could have saved us the penalty, tripped Regan first and then ADP could have just scored in open play ;)

/thread

[belchardo]

gold.

[leftrightout]

Had Caravella been there he could have saved us the penalty, tripped Regan first and then ADP could have just scored in open play ;)

Zane Out, Scarfy In