Put a seat on it - Cycling Thread

[q-money]

wat

[belchardo]

thought about watching the interview, but then thought **** it, the turd isn't worth it.

if only i had seen this earlier...

http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Lance_Armstrong_drinking_game.png

[sammydog]

I haven't seen it, but the wife has been texting updates, apparently he has admitted to doping up until 2005. So thats all of his Tour titles covered. Clean in the comeback.

He has admitted to bullying the peleton, etc.

I'll sit down tonight and watch with a few beers and some EPO.

[plague]

I'm pretty sure he lied through the whole interview, which now means I'm not sure if Lance Armstrong ever existed.

[belchardo]

flicked over just as he was refusing to answer whether he lied under oath in testimony taken in the insurance case.

pretty ****ing clear you did you dick.

[q-money]

100,000 expected for the tour down under prologue tonight, is on nine (wtf?) at 10.30

[goaliepersempre]

Meh he still had to ride the tour... Yeah disappointed but that was the sport... Now with the bio passport getting harder for it to exist(until a wonder dope type) admitted to epo, blood transfusion and testosterone..

[sh10]

sometimes you get sportsmen who you hate because they are cheats on field or whatever but they can actually be decent blokes off the field. This guy just seems like an absolute **** of a human though, as bad as hutcho

[MFKS]

Same bloke though did make up for his lies and deceit and behaviour by raising millions and millions of dollars for Cancer sufferers and also inspiring many Cancer patients to believe they could beat the disease.

All that has happened here is they have destroyed a possible beacon of hope for cancer patients and denied the Cancer research community a pile of funds because of the influence the Lance Armstrong myth had.

It's not like the 7 TDF's are now going to a deserving johnny cyclist who has peddled hard and played a fair game and stayed off the drugs because the blokes he beat were also done for EPO since these TDF' wins.

I am actually Sickened by this whole incident. The Lance Armstrong myth had a positive effect on the world and so many non believers have tried ever so hard to destroy it using whatever means possible and years and years of persecution to bring it down.

It is like telling some 4 year old kid the truth about Santa just to be a ****. It doesn't achieve anything positive and not saying anything allows the dreams and fantasy that is Xmas for kids be that little bit more magical. All these pricks have done is destroyed some of the hope cancer patients could look to whilst under going treatment and look at Lance Armstrong and stay positive b3elieve they could overcome conquer and achieve.

Is that such a bad thing??

[q-money]

lance armstrong destroyed the lance armstrong myth, no-one else

it's not persecution if you're guilty, and he is guilty as sin

anyway, **** him, old news

cancer patients are better off putting their hope in the amazing scientists working on curing the disease, not some ****ing bloke who cheated while riding a bike

if you want a hero, look at jens voigt - 41 and on the attack on the first lap of the crit on sunday, deadset flogging himself into the ground for your enjoyment

[belchardo]

the lance armstrong myth extended in to Livestrong,a foundation set up to promote "awareness".

like his career, livestrong is a complete fabrication built on falsehood, spin and a dodgy idol. for the love of god, they don't even give money to research anymore.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html?page=all

i wonder how many cancer sufferers feel betrayed now because they did believe in armstrong. i do feel sorry for them.

not a skerrick of compassion for lance though. he brought this all on himself.

[parksey]

i'm still a lance fan

the guy was still the best of his generation

and there's no doubting that he has been unfairly dealt with

[sh10]

the lance armstrong myth extended in to Livestrong,a foundation set up to promote "awareness".

like his career, livestrong is a complete fabrication built on falsehood, spin and a dodgy idol. for the love of god, they don't even give money to research anymore.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html?page=all

i wonder how many cancer sufferers feel betrayed now because they did believe in armstrong. i do feel sorry for them.

not a skerrick of compassion for lance though. he brought this all on himself.

MFKS way wide of the mark again...


the guy was still the best of his generation

Was he?

best doper? Yeah.

Best cyclist? Well he's not winning 7 TDFs without the dope so it's pretty hard to claim that

[belchardo]

and there's no doubting that he has been unfairly dealt with

f'ing lol. dream on.

[q-money]

best of his generation fmd

he didn't even race classics

[sh10]

TDF is the only cycling race in the world, isnt it

[boz-monaut]

here's the unedited version of the interview with Oprah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUKZD6eqgo

[parksey]

good to see all the guys who don't actually watch cycling or have any knowledge of cycling making their opinions known

for a lot of the greats the tour is the one race that matters. don't really think many would give a **** if they missed out on the giro etc. if they won a few tours.

[belchardo]

what makes you think i don't watch cycling or have any knowledge of it?

regardless, i do know a cheat when masses of conclusive evidence of a continuous, planned doping regime is presented to me.

[parksey]

yeah he did cheat.

so did everyone else in that era. all the guys who testified against him, apparently over 20 people, only did so because they were cheats themselves and wanted a lenient punishment.

just to clarify i don't really have a problem with him being stripped of his titles, but the life time ban is pretty ****ed up considering all the other guys got 6 months. it's obvious that lance is being used as both an example and a scapegoat.

[plague]

wouldnt give a toss if they let him come back to competitive sport. blokes would be lining up to watch/be his mate. All sport is a circus anyway.
he fessed up, so it took him a while. did he do anything worse than Landis or Contador? (yes he did it longer, but was it worse?). Those blokes got back in didnt they?


edit: sorry, forgot that Contador ate some bad meat, he didnt take drugs. blokes been hard done by obviously.

[parksey]

a ban from pro cycling would be fair enough considering he doped for 10 years, but not even being able to run in a local marathon is just a joke.

[plague]

a ban from pro cycling would be fair enough considering he doped for 10 years, but not even being able to run in a local marathon is just a joke.

this.

[belchardo]

a ban from pro cycling would be fair enough considering he doped for 10 years, but not even being able to run in a local marathon is just a joke.

personally, i don't agree with anybody coming back from a drug ban. they knew what they were doing at the time they took the substance.

and quite frankly, the only real punishment that lance seems to have a problem with is the lifetime ban from all WADA sanctioned competitive sports. well good, the punishment should hurt. pretty sure in his mind he still thinks he legitimately won 7 TDF.

[parksey]

nah you're totally right, man

the guy's life should be ruined due to committing the ultimate sin of cheating in a bike race.

[belchardo]

nah you're totally right, man

the guy's life should be ruined due to committing the ultimate sin of cheating in a bike race.

to clarify, i can handle the cheating. what really gets me is the lengths he went to in his defence.

anyway, agree to disagree. you think he's a fallen hero who deserves a second chance cause he's sorry he can't compete in competitive events, even though he knowingly participated in and helped create a sophisticated cheating regime. i think he's a cheating dog who doesn't deserve a second chance because he knowingly participated in and helped create a sophisticated cheating regime.

[parksey]

i didn't say he deserves a second chance, just that the punishment is ridiculous.

who actually cares if the guy runs a marathon?

[baldrick]

Lance was also carving it up training for the Hawaiian Ironman before being suspended by USADA

Was posting some seriously competitive times in lead up events too

[boz-monaut]

to me, these arguments that he doped in cycling should have no impact on him being allowed to compete in other sports would be a bit like saying a football player banned from on competition, say the FA Cup, shouldn't be banned from playing in the A-league

which sounds fair enough until you find out the reason he's banned is because he stabbed a referee in the neck

I'm all for the lifetime ban, I'm all for stripping him of his titles and I'm all for preventing sporting's greatest fraud from being in the public eye ever again - there's no way in hell he'd have fessed up, apologised or even called off his lawyers from suing those who exposed him if he hadn't been caught

he deserves to be remembered as the biggest **** in sport, ever

[sammydog]

good to see all the guys who don't actually watch cycling or have any knowledge of cycling making their opinions known

for a lot of the greats the tour is the one race that matters. don't really think many would give a **** if they missed out on the giro etc. if they won a few tours.

I'd much rather watch the Paris Roubaix or the Tour of Flanders to be honest.

[plague]

I'm all for the lifetime ban, I'm all for stripping him of his titles and I'm all for preventing sporting's greatest fraud from being in the public eye ever again - there's no way in hell he'd have fessed up, apologised or even called off his lawyers from suing those who exposed him if he hadn't been caught

he deserves to be remembered as the biggest **** in sport, ever

i only have a problem with the lack of consistency in punishments dished out to other either admitted, or proven, cheats.
Contador and Landis seemed to get off way lighter than Armstrong. I have no problem if they all got lifetime bans. But to me Contador, Landis and Armstrong are guilty of exactly the same things.
to use your analogy Boz, it would be like Contador and Landis stabbing a ref in an All Age match at national Park vs Armstrong doing it at a World Cup Final (held somewhere with a slightly bigger capacity than National Park).
More people are witness, and "affected" but the crime is still the same innit?

[boz-monaut]

comparing Contador's positive test with Armstrong's lifetime of systematic doping is a bit of a stretch

but yes I think Contador got off very lightly for what he did, as do quite a large section of the cycling community

[sammydog]

a ban from pro cycling would be fair enough considering he doped for 10 years, but not even being able to run in a local marathon is just a joke.

The thing I don't like is that Armstrong, while obviously guilty, will be where they stop with the investigations. Everyone of that era (except the sh!t kickers in each team) was doped up to the eyeballs. To me, for USADA or UCI to gave any credibility in this, they need to keep digging and out everyone. Let it be known who the few clean riders were. Out the doctors who are still in the sport who were behind it. Out the team managers who condoned the doping.

The big question to me is, did these riders dope because they wanted to, or because the team told them to. I suspect for the majority it was the latter. A case of, hey take this, inject this or p!ss off and find a career outside of cycling.

Doping was (I hope its not still the case, but I am not convinced) so ingrained in the sport I really believe its those who were running the teams that need to be looked at.

[seldom]

The thing I don't like is that Armstrong, while obviously guilty, will be where they stop with the investigations. Everyone of that era (except the sh!t kickers in each team) was doped up to the eyeballs. To me, for USADA or UCI to gave any credibility in this, they need to keep digging and out everyone. Let it be known who the few clean riders were. Out the doctors who are still in the sport who were behind it. Out the team managers who condoned the doping.

The big question to me is, did these riders dope because they wanted to, or because the team told them to. I suspect for the majority it was the latter. A case of, hey take this, inject this or p!ss off and find a career outside of cycling.

Doping was (I hope its not still the case, but I am not convinced) so ingrained in the sport I really believe its those who were running the teams that need to be looked at.

lol...the numpties i should imagine

[slobsy]

The thing that upsets me most about the whole Armstrong cheating saga is not the doping, it's not the lying, nor the bribery or intimidation.

its the blatant short cutting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZhG2kWVLY

worlds greatest cheat shows how to do it properly

[pv4]

i think the real question here is how long will it take before hunter stadium names the western stand the lance armstrong stand

[q-money]

alright back to cycling, not cheats

geraint thomas took the win on stage 2 of the TDU today with a great climb up the corkscrew and a top sprint. he's looking pretty good.

gerrans and gilbert caught in a stack, pretty much wipes them out

so many g's, ain't nothing but a g thang

[q-money]

cyclocross world champs this weekend

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2013/01/louisville-cyclocross-world-championship-preview/

will be live on da internets early sunday morning and delayed on eurosport on monday

http://www.youtube.com/ucichannel

[sammydog]

There will be a cyclocross series in Newcastle this year. Can't wait, just wish I had a bike to race with.

[q-money]

surely you could cobble something together that could do the job, you have to carry the bike most of the way anyway :rof:

[sammydog]

Would feel like a fraud on a mtb, and the carbon roadie I don't think would go the distance (mind you thats a good excuse to suck at the racing).

I think its time to sell some old stuff to finance a cheap CX bike.

[q-money]

good excuse to get yerself some steel

[sammydog]

Well, Steel is real.

[q-money]

just missed this - was watching it and forgot about it when i went to lunch :(

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121058735903?nma=true&si=3MsF22gJn%2BsnPBRiP5uYHX2dCyk%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true#ht_500wt_1322

$41 with the BB as well is an absolute steal

also kind of trying to supress the urge to buy this

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Italian-Made-Fondriest-Top-Level-Alloy-Road-Bike-54cm-/281060184322?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Bikes&hash=item41707e1102&_uhb=1#ht_559wt_1307

the uglier the better, if i could find a lampre fondriest i think i would cry

[sh10]

How does one ride with no wheels?

[q-money]

imagination

[belchardo]

How does one ride with no wheels?

it all depends on what drugs you're on...

[q-money]

tour of flanders was pretty good racing, cancellara majestic

[sammydog]

tour of flanders was pretty good racing, cancellara majestic

What about Sagan on the podium?

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/04/01/4156818/art-svSAGAN-620x349.jpg

[q-money]

ledge

[sammydog]

Ive said this before, we need to have a group ride, preferably ending in beer.

Anyone keen?

I've been off the bike for a little while so I will be hanging off the back.

[seldom]

What about Sagan on the podium?

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/04/01/4156818/art-svSAGAN-620x349.jpg


not much sagan there :gent:

[q-money]

cancellara :cool:

[goaliepersempre]

Super fabu :)

[belchardo]

giro del trentino. sky pulled out a team trial with an average speed of 55km/hr. that is just nuts. flat course, but that is still a "wow" from me.

[MFKS]

Big one day race on tonight if anyone interested on Eurosport.

Don't ask me to pronounce it but it was very French in name

[sammydog]

Stage 2 of the Giro Del Trentino is up first in italy, cadel is riding in this one. Some quality in the feild for this race which is the lead up to the Giro d'Italia.

Then end of the Fleche Wallonne is up later on in Belgium.

[q-money]

good to see sky are still duds in the classics

the high-altitude training is a total fizzer

[MFKS]

Fleche Wallonne >> Watched that last night.

Belgians couldn't get the pictures on TV right. Last 15kms were just basically like photos rather than video as the camera footage was jumpy as all shit. Drove us nuts.

All set up by BMC for Gilbert but he blew it with Katusha Dainel Moreno stepping out of Joachim Rodriguez's shadow and jagging the win and riding away from Gilbert on the last climb near the line

[q-money]

giro starts in a week...mon

the chrono is where it will be won and lost, 55K jeez - will test out wiggos new climbing ability and see if evans has totally lost his edge after last years disastrous season

i hope he hasn't, for all his absolute weirdness there's something quite compelling about the bloke, just piles on the hurt

[q-money]

wiggo proves himself to be a big wuss who can't ride a bike downhill

evans and nibali can scoot away for fun on the descents, proper GC contenders

has been bloody excellent racing, everyone is popping everyone at any chance they get. sky without rogers and porte is a totally different beast

uran and henao should be let go, uran is super strong

[belchardo]

watching the stage from last night, the descent around 50km from the finish looks like a LOT of fun. 80km/hr speeds, bit of air over the bumps, loads of curves, no traffic coming the other way. brilliant.

[q-money]

for sure, they are absolutely hammering it

[sammydog]

Anyone get to the cyclocross at the Velodrome on mothers day? Scrambling now to find a way to get a CX bike and join the fun.

Just stuck a few frames up for sale to aid the process.

[q-money]

really keen to get to the next one, looked bloody brilliant

moar cowbell!

[sammydog]

Had a friend fly up from Melbourne to race, bringing a Van full of people next time. Apparently there will be bands next time as well. not to mention more cow bells.

[belchardo]

how great is it that some of the greatest cycling races just seem to go "wide roads? why the hell would we need them?"

looking forward to the time trial tonight. probably zero chance of staying awake until evans and nibali head off.

[au revoir]

spew before the finish line, ahahah

[belchardo]

woo! 3 minutes to go till evans starts. i can do this! :)

talk of cancelling the big climbs over the next two nights due to adverse weather. :(

[belchardo]

ride like the wind cadel!

[belchardo]

nibali blowing evans away. nibali over 2 minutes up on this stage alone with about 10 minutes of riding to go.

[belchardo]

Fantini rider busted for doping overnight. good. glad they're catching them more often these days.

-3 degrees at the top of the mountain, looks to be about 4m of snow. glad i'm at home watching it rather than riding it.

[q-money]

fantini jersey is so great

[q-money]

adam hansen in the break monnnnnnnnn

hardman extraordinaire

[The Dunster]

Fantini rider busted for doping overnight. good. glad they're catching them more often these days.

As long as people think the riders are to blame for drugs in cycling the problem is never going to go away.

[hawk]

As long as people think the riders are to blame for drugs in cycling the problem is never going to go away.

what drugs? what problem? it aint going away either

[q-money]

cheating is alright if you've got some verve, i.e. pantani

armstrong, landis, frank schleck, hamilton zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[q-money]

why are euskaltel chasing so hard? could be interesting.

break with 7 minutes

[plague]

Attn bike lads:
So is Cadels 3rd in the Giro any sort of form guide for TDF?

[q-money]

for a bloke that has not had much racing, third is a strong showing in the giro. the fact that a couple of stages got binned, and he got a mechanical problem on tre cime didn't help him to hold on to second either. get a lobster on him, you'll get decent odds.

this years giro was tough, and evans looked alright at the end of it. nibali is in top form, and the parcours suited uran to a T. neither evans or uran got much help either, they did most of their work in the mountains alone.

wiggins is toast, froome is good i reckon people might have figured sky out. you've got to work super hard on them to break up their rhythm, you could see it in the giro, people trying to change the tempo as much as possible. if froome can roll with it and stay with the attacks he will be in with a shot. sky without rogers, in my opinion, won't be as dangerous. he and porte won the tour for wiggo last year.

[boz-monaut]

qdoodle - you in newy for the long weekend? wanna ride the fernleigh track yeah?

[q-money]

i'll be in new york chief

[boz-monaut]

that's a pretty good excuse

[GazFish35]

pfft.
If he was any sort of mate he'd come home for the ride.

[boz-monaut]

dude at work rides this in as his daily commute bike

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4429/imag0588w.jpg

yep, that back wheel is what it looks like

yep, bit of a wanker

[belchardo]

bit?

had a guy that i used to work with who went semi-pro/pro for a year. wife supported him but didn't work out. but hell, good on him for chasing the dream. total douche though. was telling me one day how the rear wheel on his bike was worth $8,000 and was slightly asymmetrical to account for the torque coming through the pedal crank. the chain apparently twists the rear wheel slightly and the asymmetry pulls it into symmetry. you probably ride 0.000001% faster, but that probably counts when you are trying to go pro.

[boz-monaut]

like the elliptical crankset you see on some timetrial bikes

wankset more like

[q-money]

does he do triathlons?

[boz-monaut]

it's definitely a triathlon bike so I reckon he probably does - I'd ask him about it but.... you know....

it's got a new zipp front wheel on this morning

[q-money]

probably one of the blokes that hammers down every bike track in the world way too fast, slurping on some energy boosting gels while frantically dodging children and dogs with one hand on his aero bars, the other on his cawk

what's up with the duct tape on the seat post to hold the light on? totally not aero

[boz-monaut]

the duct tape is gone today

would have cost too many seconds on the ride to work

[q-money]

boyz

i have opened up a fantasy TDF league on SBS cycling central, join in

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/home/fantasy

league name: newcastlefootball.net
password: newyboys

bring ur own EPO

[parksey]

year

[belchardo]

let me in q-mon please.

like all fantasy competitions i join, that will be the only time i look at it throughout the tour.

Team name: numpties
BMC
Froome
Porte
Evans
Renshaw
Van Garderen
O'Grady
Gerrans
Burghardt

pretty much picked the names i knew, fitted a team around them. :)

[q-money]

done

team name: m8pls

team: saxobank
contador
voeckler
voigt
degenkolb
porte
rogers
turgot
sagan
o'grady

for great justice

[sammydog]

I'm doing Tour De Lounge during the tour this year. 1000km on the trainer while watching the tour to raise funds for the Leukaemia Foundation.

http://tourdelounge.gofundraise.com.au/page/fat_lenny

Its going to be mind numbingly boring, but I figure its a good cause, I'll eat and drink less than usual and hopefully I will be fit again at the end of it. When Gabrielle Gate starts talking food and wine I will be pedalling hard to get to the TV to punch him.

I'll have to sign up to the Fantasy TDF League, despite the fact I suck at any form of fantasy league.

[sammydog]

Signed up as fat_lenny

Team: Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank

Froome
Van Garderen
Cavendish
Hoogerland
Renshaw
Voecler
Gerrans
Rasmussen
Porte

[baldrick]

Team Xrayjets:

Evans
Froome
Porte
Voeckler
Rogers
Kloden
Casar
Chaoufi
Meyer

[q-money]

welcome m8s

porte & rogers proving popular

wonder if they will be doing the business on separate teams this year

[plague]

yo Q-man.
Why is Contador getting all the big ones from the experts as being the only chance to stop Froome?
Is he back to his best? and is his team any good?

[parksey]

porte
sagan
gerrans
van garderen
hesjedal
tony martin
rogers
jon izagirre
o'grady

astana

[boz-monaut]

we should start a new thread for all fantasy team bollocks

[au revoir]

we should start a new thread for all fantasy team bollocks

she'll be right. just give mfks a 3 day ban if it bothers you so much.

[boz-monaut]

you know how to cheer me up

come here, give us a cuddle

[q-money]

get ur team in boz

[q-money]

yo Q-man.
Why is Contador getting all the big ones from the experts as being the only chance to stop Froome?
Is he back to his best? and is his team any good?

yes and yes, he was brilliant in the vuelta last year - blowing away purito on stage 17 with a withering solo victory. he is still one of the greatest climbers ever, and can attack when others simply can't go with him. see his attack on alp d huez in 2011 when cadel won it, soloing out off the front, he's mental. he got blown out on a couple of stages in the lead up races but he's won all three grand tours remember, he loves this shit.

saxo have picked up michael rogers, who was wiggos road captain last year and is a brutally effective leader - he knows all the numbers of what everyone else can do, see what sky did last year, watch the attacks and just wear them down.

that being said, it is a pretty open field for mine - purito, evans, and froome can all win it

quintana is my outside chance

[parksey]

why did nibali bail this year?

[q-money]

he wants to do it in 2014

[parksey]

why not just do it this year?

[MFKS]

Usually it is physically impossible to do the Giro and TDF and win both.

The last bloke to do it died prematurely from drugs. So even that achievement has a lot of ???? to it
Most of the leading TDF contenders use the Giro as a training program rather than look to win it or bypass it altogether.

Even Contador won the Giro and couldn't back up and win the TDF that year and that was around the time he got done for drugs.


The Giro and TDF are usually about 6 weeks apart so the recovery and training time isn't there to be in peak form for that long.



Nibali done and won the Giro and will probably have a serious lash at the Vuelta later this year when he should have recovered enough to have a chance. The TDF would have most likely been a bridge too far particularly with this years course requiring certain types of training with its complexities

[parksey]

nah the sport's gone soft

[boz-monaut]

yeah Parksey - bring back the days of cocaine and amphetamines, no helmets, spectators punching riders in the liver - real men riding like real men

(the thing that amuses me most about this post is the overall softness of the person making this call)

[seldom]

What a lol stage...several crashes,most caused by roadside banners.Contador,Cavendish,Sagan,Griepel and Goss all takin a tumble.Orica greenedge bus got caught under finish line banner so riders told that race was gunna finish 3km short,nek minnit bus manages to free itself by reversing and taking a side exit,all this with riders 5 mins away.Riders then told to finish as per normal and because of the lack of sprinters Kittel wins the stage FFS.Because of all the fvckups all riders given the same time.No BS one of the strangest and funniest TDF stages I have seen.
1.Kittel
2.Kristoff
3.Van Poppel

[plague]

Bit of a quiet then start eh?
Buses!!!!!

[sammydog]

Can not believe I went to bed before the finish and missed that. Woke up this morning and my twitter feed was going nuts.

Time to get on the trainer and watch the highlights I think.

[parksey]

yeah Parksey - bring back the days of cocaine and amphetamines, no helmets, spectators punching riders in the liver - real men riding like real men

(the thing that amuses me most about this post is the overall softness of the person making this call)

yeah for sure

[parksey]

so i've been getting no points for the first two stages.

apparently i hadn't submitted it ffs.

carn boys.

[sammydog]

Well, thanks to you and xrayjets, I am not coming last.

[parksey]

i'm in another fantasy comp on another website, velogames i think it's called, and the points are heaps different. sagan in on like 130 in that game and 24 or something on the sbs one.

[q-money]

did you go to the CX on the weekend lenny? looked epic!

[sammydog]

Nah. I wanted to but because of the Tour de Lounge I needed some km's under my belt and also didn't want to get sick when I have to ride so much. Followed the twitter feed of the race though.

Saw the photos though and it looked awesome. My wife was going to take the kids in but they didn't get there. Keep thinking a CX bike would be awesome, but after the weekends race it just looks like an ongoing bike maintenance nightmare.

For those who didn't see it, check out the NBN footage.
http://www.nbnnews.com.au/index.php/2013/06/30/cyclocross-riders-happy-as-pigs-in-mud/

Some great photos in the herald http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1607204/gallery-novice-wins-cyclocross/?cs=306

[belchardo]

voigt in for renshaw, who apparently can't stay on his bike. :)

hope he gets well soon, apparently requires surgery.

shitty first couple of nights to miss. lol at the dog almost getting killed last night. he's been a bad bad boy. :) and the bus. geez.

[seldom]

Great stage...Gerrans from greenedge pipped Sagan.Who'd of thunk...Was good viewing

[seldom]

Gerrans in yellow :cool:

[q-money]

monnnnnn

[baldrick]

Well, thanks to you and xrayjets, I am not coming last.


So apparently, saving your team isn't submitting it. :(

[q-money]

i'm gonna ****en walk this league

[parksey]

I would be winning this shit

[q-money]

marginal gains brah

[belchardo]

i'm gonna ****en walk this league

big words. i'm coming for you.

[q-money]

on yer bike then

[seldom]

cavendish too strong

[belchardo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GZ0CYLa3B8&feature=player_detailpage&list =UUcE0xoHbKrufsORgwECa6Hw

never saw it coming.

[belchardo]

chavanel fined for "eating in a way that damaged the image of cycling." :what:

[plague]

Now I'm no expert, but that ride from Porte and Froome last night was ****ing awesome.

Tour over?

[q-money]

tonight shows it might not be over, if movistar can drop froome it's game on

porte is blown

[plague]

tonight shows it might not be over, if movistar can drop froome it's game on

porte is blown
Yeah the talking heads were claiming it all the way up the last climb.
So why didn't they have a go at Froome then?
What's the thinking there you reckon? It was all set up for them but they didn't really go.
Or was Froome just to good on the counter that they didn't bother?

[parksey]

froome countered well and showed a lot of guts to stay with them but man movistar just really pussed out last night.

there's a good chance that they wont get another opportunity like they had last night and they kinda blew it.

[q-money]

totally agreed, they had 3 blokes with quintana and valverde...belkin had ten dam and mollema, even contador had someone with him

like froome said, it took some nuts for valverde to attack so early and to hold out all day, but he should have done more with quintana instead of just sending him out - still early days yet and quintana goes up hills for fun, sky got absolutely pounded today

[MFKS]

tonight shows it might not be over, if movistar can drop froome it's game on

porte is blown

Porte's job is to ride for Froome not to ride for himself. Sky and Porte couldn't give two ****s if Porte comes 120th as long as Froome wins the Tour

[q-money]

sky can't afford to keep burning domestiques - if porte limps home like that again he may find himself over the time limit like kiriyenka and out of the race

i can guarantee sky will give two ****s then

he better pull his socks up

[MFKS]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Mont_ventoux_summit.jpg/280px-Mont_ventoux_summit.jpg

Will be needed more the day they go up this thing to protect Froome. Rest day tonight so clock off and zone out and rest up for the likes of this hill and Alpe D Huez

[belchardo]

so cavendish. complete dick.

good look stealing a microphone.

[belchardo]

anybody been to mont-st-michel?

bloody awesome view from up the top, amazing place. mind you, they need to cycle fast, otherwise they may not get to the finish due to the incoming tide. :D

361

excuse the crap photography

[parksey]

so what exactly do you get points for in fantasy for the pro team you select?

i've had greenedge for about 6 days now and they still don't have a single point.

[q-money]

Cycling Teams:
Teams will score points based on the finishing positions of their riders at each stage:

Finishing Position of Rider Points
1st 10
2nd 8
3rd 6
4th 4
5th 2

you may have got around greenedge too late to get any points bruv

[plague]

Ok I've got another question:
What did "eating in a way that damges the image of cycling" mean?
Referring to the fine on Andrew Talansky.

Ta.

[boz-monaut]

like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/RenoCraft/Randomstuff/banana01yb5.jpg

[plague]

like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/RenoCraft/Randomstuff/banana01yb5.jpg

and you dared to run me and Mr Fish out of the Science thread for equally lame attempts at humor.

In all fairness though phwooaaarrrr she's alright.

[parksey]

Cycling Teams:
Teams will score points based on the finishing positions of their riders at each stage:

Finishing Position of Rider Points
1st 10
2nd 8
3rd 6
4th 4
5th 2

you may have got around greenedge too late to get any points bruv

fair enough. i thought they might get points for having a member in yellow

[seldom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/RenoCraft/Randomstuff/banana01yb5.jpg


fair enough. i thought they might get points for having a member in yellow

member in yellow...lol

[q-money]

Ok I've got another question:
What did "eating in a way that damges the image of cycling" mean?
Referring to the fine on Andrew Talansky.

Ta.
it gets lost in translation - it meant he got a tow off the team car when he was getting the bottles, i.e. hanging on too long talking to the sporting director

[Marcus North]

Been getting into my cycling lately. How bout that Chad Froome hey? I can relate to a successful bloke wearing yellow. Ok gotta go, the phones ringing its probably Boof telling me to pack my bags.

[MFKS]

Last nights stage up Mont Ventoux has me now convinced that something suspect is going on at Team Sky.

Last night as the gradient went up on Mont Ventoux and the men started to get sorted out from the boys and the numbers in the peleton dwindled leaving the elite Richie Porte took over from his other Sky teammate who had crossed the limits with his pace making. Porte cranked it up a notch or two for 2km. Within a few hundred metres he had dropped a dozen of the best cyclists in the world from his coat tails such was the pace leaving only two alongside him.Froome and Contador.

As soon as Porte reached his limit Froome after enduring that whirlwind speed up the mountain then had the "ENERGY" to turn on the after burners and charge off up the mountain leaving Contador in his wake. The turn of speed Froome had bordered on insane as logic suggests you can't possibly go that fast up a hill.

Not only did he leave Contador for dead but he chased down and over took the little Colombian Quintana who was up the road. All the while continuing his speed and not even slowing down through fatigue. This completely defies logic.

Even being the strongest and quickest their should still be some signs of fatigue and suffering. The fact that one could do that to one of the best cyclists of this generation and barely raise a sweat doing it.:what:

I AM CALLING BULLSHIT

[q-money]

either everyone is off the pace, or froome is ridiculously good - the fact he can do that on ventoux and pull that chrono out against tony ****en martin as well should ring the alarms, who knows

quintana was bleeding from his nose ffs

i find it hard to believe the cadence he is pushing on ridiculously big gears, up big hills and absolutely no-one can go with him, but hey whatever - maybe we are seeing a once in a generation cyclist

the fact his "non-dope" times are right up there with the great dopers of the past doesn't help though

[MFKS]

either everyone is off the pace, or froome is ridiculously good - the fact he can do that on ventoux and pull that chrono out against tony ****en martin as well should ring the alarms, who knows

quintana was bleeding from his nose ffs

i find it hard to believe the cadence he is pushing on ridiculously big gears, up big hills and absolutely no-one can go with him, but hey whatever - maybe we are seeing a once in a generation cyclist

the fact his "non-dope" times are right up there with the great dopers of the past doesn't help though

This is the bit I call Bullshit on.

3 Grand Tours 83rd 34th and a DQ. No great history of note at being a successful cyclist.


After a couple of years of mediocrity and anonymity moves to Sky and all of a sudden he has two seconds a 4th and an impending Grand Tour victory. His wins are now coming thick and fast. He blitzes people in Time Trials and he goes up mountains quicker than a mountain goat. Where was this potential/form before??

If it looks like shit smells like shit and tastes like shit then it most likely is shit

[toad]

unfortunately even a naive optimist like myself has to doubt froome based on last night, but that is the situation that the great dopers of the past have created for the sport (not just armstrong/ulrich etc., the many generations before them as well).

it's going to be a long time before people see a dominant cyclist and not be suspicious!!

[q-money]

the bilharzia thing is where some interesting questions lie - the parasite feeds on RBCs, which you'd think that even when cured would still make it super tough to get maximum aerobic performance - he was smoking blokes without getting out of the saddle on a ****ing 10% grade

his treatment has never been fully explained and seeing as sky do not release any kind of power data, you really wonder what the numbers he is pushing are?

[MFKS]

http://www.cyclefiesta.com/multimedia/articles/rise-of-chris-froome.htm


In July last year only hardcore cycling fans were aware of Chris Froome. However, just over a year on, he is one of the biggest names in the sport, and will be leading Team Sky with ambitions to win the Vuelta a España. The rise is remarkable and, in a sport with the dubious recent history of professional cycling, some might say suspicious.

The rise of Froome has coincided with the rise of Sky to the position of strongest team in the peloton. With Froome's progress, from riding for a new contract in the Vuelta last year to cycling to win it this year, the most dramatic statement of Sky's intent.

Froome was rated by team director Dave Brailsford as one of the weakest members of Sky's team a couple of years ago. He was not deemed to have either the current ability, nor the potential, to become more than a pro-conti tour winner - let alone stand twice on a grand tour podium.

There are several factors that could help to explain Froome's rise, however, with Sky being increasingly secretive about their 'marginal gains' they are all fairly speculative. Here we look at some of the possible reasons for Froome's rise to the top.

Illness
It has been fairly well publicised that Froome was diagnosed with Bilharzia, a disease caused by parasitic worms that has an impact on the immune system. Froome was first diagnosed with bilharzia in 2011, and was believed to have picked it up in Kenya in November 2010; he also suffered again from the disease in early 2012.

Undoubtedly bilharzia could result in a drop in performance for a professional cyclist, but this does not seem applicable to Froome. His results were nothing special before 2011, when presumably he was not suffering for bilharzia, so getting rid of the disease can not alone be seen as the reason behind his surge in form.

Joining the Sky revolution
Froome at BarloworldOne factor that can be seen as key in the rise of Froome is Team Sky. Froome joined Sky from Barloworld in 2010; at his previous team he was not always used in the best way. They often would put him in classics and flat stage races that did not play to his strengths. His best performance with them was a creditable 36th in the Giro d'Italia in 2009. Sky also did not initially see him as a grand tour rider, and were on the verge of cancelling his contract prior to the Vuelta a España in 2011, but perhaps the very hilly course (and time trial) was what Froome needed to display his true talents.

Sky's preparation could also have helped his development. The meticulous attention to detail, combined with altitude training camps in Tenerife, weight loss and windtunnel testing can all help to improve a rider with potential. Also, training alongside more competetive riders can bring out the best in an athlete. Sky have become increasingly secretive about what their marginal gains are. Understandably they do not want to help the opposition, but the bits and pieces of information they are leaking provide no obvious clues.

We know that they have hired a swimming coach who has revolutionised their training; we also know that they ride climbs in an incredibly calculated way. However, it is difficult to know exactly how any of this relates to Froome's development. Marginal gains can certainly give a rider an edge, but Froome's vast improvement in form in comparison to his own team mates suggests that there must be something more than this.

Late developer
Another credible theory is that Froome is a natural late developer. Growing up in Kenya and training in South Africa, could easily have stalled his development, compared to what it could have been if he had been with a top European team from a young age. Froome's breakthrough tour came when he had just turned 26; that is a realistic age for a grand tour contender to break through if they have not had top training since a youngster.

The Sceptics
Bjarne Riis climbing Hautacam, 1996In the recent history of professional cycling, a dramatic improvement in the form of a rider has usually been followed (some months or years later) by evidence that performancing enhancing drugs have been used. To be 100% clear, there is absolutely no evidence that Froome, or any other members of Sky, are using any banned substances. However, in professional cycling there will always be some degree of suspicion.

Sky hiring Gert Leinders seems to fly in the face of the anti-doping rhetoric that they pronounced so strongly when the team was founded. Likewise, the incredible power of Team Sky flying up the climbs in the Tour de France was reminiscant of Armstrong's US Postal train. Also, sceptics question why members of Sky were holed up in Tenerife for several weeks in the off season, as well as how Froome (and Wiggins) have managed to lose weight and improve their time trialling simultaneously. Indeed, several critics have claimed that bilharzia is being used as a convenient excuse to manipulate the biological passport. This is the unfortunate legacy that the EPO era has left cycling with; many fans now see riders like Froome climbing like never before and cannot help but think back to the times they were duped by Riis, Armstrong, Landis and many more.

However, the theories of doping against Sky are all circumstantial at best, and it would be unfair not to give Froome the benefit of the doubt. Indeed, if Sky and Froome have found unique training methods that yielded the best results, they would be foolish to release them into public domain just to fend off some accusations.

The decisive factor?
It seems reasonable to suggest that a combination of factors is behind Froome's rise. It undoubtedly looks like he is a late developer, understandably so given his lack of truly competetive racing in his younger years. Therefore his potential was somewhat hidden; when combined with Sky's analysis and ability to get the best out of a rider, the potential was realised. In addition, clearing him of bilharzia will obviously only have helped to improve his development further.

What we do know for sure is that Froome is now one of the best riders in the world. He will have his work cut out to hang on to Contador in the mountains of northern Spain, but, given how he has ridden in the last year, it should certainly be an exciting three weeks. - See more at: http://www.cyclefiesta.com/multimedia/articles/rise-of-chris-froome.htm#sthash.1drzzpBZ.dpuf

Article written approx 10 months ago on Froome

[q-money]

4.15 is definitely catchable if froome has another bad day and bonks in the TT (which looks unlikely)

they cannot beat sky on the hills, saxo & movistar will have to do the business on the descents or on other terrain

18-19-20 are going to be epic if quintana and contador keep attacking till the end

[belchardo]

they cannot beat sky on the hills, saxo & movistar will have to do the business on the descents or on other terrain

or send out a kamikaze rider and take him out.

[GazFish35]

http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F8D/PPRV/FFRD8UN2/F8DPPRVFFRD8UN2.LARGE.jpg

Check their bikes

[parksey]

yeah, although it's a shame that the first thing people jump to is that froome is doping, the way he is riding is almost unbelievable.

[MFKS]

yeah, although it's a shame that the first thing people jump to is that froome is doping, the way he is riding is almost unbelievable.


Probably because it is.

Same bloke couldn't beat Contador in last years Vuelta. Now he is not not just beating him but blowing him away.

[q-money]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvi3YB8fBCA

gets less and less believable every time you watch it

the best climber in the last 10 years in contador climbing like a regular fred and froome sitting in the saddle and blasting it up in a ridiculously low gear, you'd larf if it wasn't so tragic

[GazFish35]

maybe all the others were on drugs and now arent.

[plague]

Just remember that Froome finished 2012 tour 7 minutes ahead of anyone else riding in this years race, and was riding for Wiggins.

[MFKS]

Just remember that Froome finished 2012 tour 7 minutes ahead of anyone else riding in this years race, and was riding for Wiggins.

That blokes on the gear too.


Froome didn't race Contador in last years TDF as Contador was out.

When Froome did race Contador in the Vuelta last August Contador smacked his arse big time.

All of a sudden the results are dramatically reversed:whistling::wtf:
Yeah right.

I believe all is above board here.

Just like I believe:
GVE will lead the Jets to the title this season UNDEFEATED and WITHOUT CONCEDING A GOAL.
Middleby will be pilfered and lauded as the greatest CEO of all time by Microsoft
Craig Deans will take over from Moyes at Old Trafford after being head hunted by Manure in one of those Global search things
Sam Galloway will win the Ballon D'or
Armenia will win the 2014 FIFA World Cup

[q-money]

froome having a cry because contador attacked him all the way up and down col de manse

man up m8 it's a bike race

[plague]

That blokes on the gear too.


Froome didn't race Contador in last years TDF as Contador was out.

When Froome did race Contador in the Vuelta last August Contador smacked his arse big time.

All of a sudden the results are dramatically reversed:whistling::wtf:
Yeah right.

I believe all is above board here.

Just like I believe:
GVE will lead the Jets to the title this season UNDEFEATED and WITHOUT CONCEDING A GOAL.
Middleby will be pilfered and lauded as the greatest CEO of all time by Microsoft
Craig Deans will take over from Moyes at Old Trafford after being head hunted by Manure in one of those Global search things
Sam Galloway will win the Ballon D'or
Armenia will win the 2014 FIFA World Cup

Geez you are a dead set pelican sometimes.

Merely pointing out to those who think Froome has come from nowhere.
FWIW after the whole Armstrong thing I'm convinced everyone is on drugs all the time.





Except Terry McFlynn cause that guy is just plain shit.

[belchardo]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/chris-froome-wins-17th-stage-of-tour-de-france-20130718-2q53t.html

froome now having a pre-emptive whinge about the potential danger of the descent tonight if it's wet. baby wants it shortened if it is raining heavily.

he's turning into a bit of a cry-baby this guy.

[q-money]

"He should use his brakes more if he's afraid on the descents. We are going to attack everywhere, whether it is going uphill or downhill."

:rof:

he is imperious going uphill and a monster on the flats, and pretty much unbeatable on an uphill MTF - if he can hold out until the final climb in the wet he will blow the lighter blokes away as he will get much more traction - check out what he did at the criterium international in the wet earlier this year, but just like wiggo at the giro, froome is not a good descender.

what i wouldn't give for nibali to be in this tour


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPXIdGy1iM0

**** this is going to be great tonight

[q-money]

Absolutely rubbish tactics from saxo, burning two domestiques before the first ascent jeez

[steve136]

I hear froome has been docked the monumental amount of 20 seconds for once again blatantly cheating with regards to taking on food. Good to see Rogers in the Top 10, shame to see Porte helping out the dirty British team so much. Cadel looks to be enjoying a leisurely ride through France.

[steve136]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/aussie-rider-adam-hansen-enjoys-a-donated-beer-during-tour-de-frances-most-sadistic-stage/story-fni2geiw-1226681750324

best moment of the tour by far. national hero.

[q-money]

hansen is a ledge, ultimate hardman, his win in pescara this year at the giro was epic

[belchardo]

SBS to broadcast the TDF until 2023.

[MFKS]

Geez you are a dead set pelican sometimes.

Merely pointing out to those who think Froome has come from nowhere.
FWIW after the whole Armstrong thing I'm convinced everyone is on drugs all the time.





Except Terry McFlynn cause that guy is just plain shit.

Biggest understatement on the internet ever. I am a only a pelican sometimes.:grin::whistling::roflz:

Plague you are good value

[belchardo]

stuart o'grady has retired.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-23/stuart-o27grady3a-a-glittering-career/4837304

not a bad career.

[q-money]

what a ledge

ps i totally froomed you all in the fantasy, eat dust losers

[parksey]

man i would have won if i submitted my team on time

[q-money]

you got dropped like big del evans m8 no fault of mine that you can't juice

[baldrick]

man i would have won if i submitted my team on time


Me too. I missed having my team submitted for 4 days :(

[parksey]

i'll be back next year bigger and better than ever

[plague]

So Q-man. Give me your predictions.
1. What happens to team Sky next year regarding Froome and Wiggins (and even Porte)?
2. Does BMC get turned over to TJ?
3. Does Cadel go again and if so does he warrant a #1 spot on a contending team?


(I'll think of more questions, we've got 12 months).

[q-money]

1. they will run froome at tour again, wiggo should dom for froome at the tour or race the vuelta. wiggo can't descend, ruling out the giro again. however he's racing the tour of poland this week, will be interesting to see how he has recovered. porte not being british won't get a shot imo. he will get offered better money and leave. if greenedge get a couple more decent super domestiques and throw money at porte it would be great, porte is a genuine GC contender if he can really start bossing the TTs.

2. if i were at BMC i'd put cadel as leader at the vuelta and let van garderen have a crack at the tour. cadel is still a great GC rider, as shown at the giro, but two grand tours a year is too much

3. definitely, he still has a lot to offer with the right people around him, BMC probably is not the place for him though

[plague]

Is Wiggins ego going to be able to cop being a deputy?
He's a Knight after all!!!
Just thinking back to the Contador/Armstrong days.
Imagine them going at each other as teammates next year. That would be great.

[q-money]

i actually quite like wiggo tbh, even though he's boring as batshit as a rider.

he should be kissing froome's arse really for his tour victory, but legit doesn't care. :rof:

froome owes porte some big sloppy gobbies for dragging him through some of those stages, imagine the three in a bizarre love triangle :wub:

[seldom]

Ohhhgrady !!!

[belchardo]

can't we just agree that anybody that raced in the 90's and for most of the 2000's was on the gear and move on?

[plague]

can't we just agree that anybody that raced in the 90's and for most of the 2000's was on the gear and move on?
Agreed, in fact I used to get on the juice just to watch it. That's how widespread it was.

[plague]

Floyd Landis suing Lance Armstrong to recoup sponsorship money on behalf of US Postal Service (he's stands to personally get about $30m).
Armstrongs defense: "US Postal should have known I was doping, don't they read the newspapers?".

The Chewbacca defense is in serious danger of being bettered.

[pv4]

http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F8D/PPRV/FFRD8UN2/F8DPPRVFFRD8UN2.LARGE.jpg

Check their bikes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE

[q-money]

:rof:

cancellara's motor lolol

[The Dunster]

The Sponsors and the Teams should be the target of peoples criticism - not the riders.

[GazFish35]

And people ignored me...

[The Dunster]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/9277126306_d46604240c_c.jpg

[seldom]

can't we just agree that anybody that raced in the 90's and for most of the 2000's was on the gear and move on?

You do realise that in the 90's people were saying the same thing about the 70's and 80's...do believe the 1st cheat caught was on ''ether'' in 1903....cocaine+chloroform was the 20's and 30's....and my old man tells of stories of the original EPO in the 60's....Things will never change.....Fill em up to the eyeballs on whatever shit they can get their hands on I say,lets see some true mountain climbing stages.

[The Dunster]

Fill em up to the eyeballs on whatever shit they can get their hands on I say,lets see some true mountain climbing stages.

Absolutely. A drug free tour would be as slow and boring as bat shit.

[q-money]

sweet whip dunster, i just cleaned up my schwinn automatic, put some slicks on it, ****ing boss down the pub

bmx is great for yer legs

[The Dunster]

Cheers Q. The Schwinn Automatics are a nice ride. Do you have a gyro on yours ?

[q-money]

nah, no gyro - ripped the rear u brake off the other day cause it was borked, only running a front brake at the moment while i wait for fleabay to deliver my new kit

prior to that i was running no brakes...that was interesting

[sammydog]

Something for local cyclists, my Opinion Piece in the Herald today.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1688318/opinion-trails-in-no-go-zone-of-benefit-to-all-users/?cs=308

[The Dunster]

Something for local cyclists, my Opinion Piece in the Herald today.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1688318/opinion-trails-in-no-go-zone-of-benefit-to-all-users/?cs=308

Can we still ride Grass Tree, Easy Way Out, and Big Dipper ? Or have they been closed ?

Note: I probably only ride my MTB five days a year anyway so no biggie.

[sammydog]

Those trails are fine. Anything currently signposted on the totem poles and on the trail map will be retained.

The stuff being closed is all south of the lagoon. I'll be meeting again with NPWS on monday though about the closures.

[Superdylan]

Looks like I could be getting a new bicycle in the next couple of days.

Swear I haven't rid one in 2 or 3 years been unbelievably long.

Anyone do the furnleigh track much?

[The Dunster]

I ride the Fernleigh track twice a week or so weather permitting. It's a nice easy ride with no major hills / gradients.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7332/9277147234_a67b89e783.jpg

[GazFish35]

Was going to put this in the random image thread but thought it might be better appreciated in here.

http://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/praying-mantis-bike.jpg

[The Dunster]

Great pic Mr Fish. :lol:

[hawk]

PK ripper was the beez but if you had one of these you in the cool crowd.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/moonster99/kuwahara_kz-01_cp.jpg

[sh10]

I ride bike

Wheels go round

Perth afternoon headwinds are ****ing brutal, especially by the river

[The Dunster]

PK ripper was the beez but if you had one of these you in the cool crowd.
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/moonster99/kuwahara_kz-01_cp.jpg

The Kuahara KZ-01 and KE-01 were the choice of Extra Terrestrials back in 1982.

They were a good cheap race bike that sold like hot cakes on the back of the ET movie.

[hawk]

too right
mate had one of these when he started racing

http://bmxmuseum.com/image/p7050003_lg.jpg

[goaliepersempre]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRgFG90fmHI


RADBALL

[plague]

Anna Meares is the greatest Australian female athlete of the past 50 years.
Discuss.

[q-money]

easily.

she got steamrolled by some **** on a training ride, laid up in a brace with a busted spine, then came back and blew away victoria pendleton - who is one of the greatest sprinters of all time, at her home olympics mind you

add that to the rest of her palmarès and there you have it. a dominant feature in a cut-throat sport, for longer than your ****ing dawn frasers or whatever.

war anna meares

legend


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkmmXSs-ooQ

[plague]

easily.

she got steamrolled by some **** on a training ride, laid up in a brace with a busted spine, then came back and blew away victoria pendleton - who is one of the greatest sprinters of all time, at her home olympics mind you

add that to the rest of her palmarès and there you have it. a dominant feature in a cut-throat sport, for longer than your ****ing dawn frasers or whatever.

war anna meares

legend


Yeah this issue came up at our bi monthly 'women in sport round table' ('twas actually just a few lads sitting round having a beer). My unfettered love for Anna is well known amongst my mates as is my hate for Dawn Fraser (long story).
The only other name that warrants it was Karrie Webb who was by far the best when in her pomp but I argued Anna's career has gone longer and with her added setbacks made her better. Once Webb got overtaken she fell off the earth.
We couldn't even come up with a 3rd place.

[plague]

Also if she doesn't carry the flag at Rio I'm going to set fire to AOC headquarters.

[sh10]

3rd place would have to be a swimmer (no, not Rice), e.g. Susie O'Neill, Sam Riley etc

[belchardo]

we've had a couple of good female surfers over the years too.

[plague]

we've had a couple of good female surfers over the years too.

Yep, good point.
Layne Beachley was a name thrown up. We gave her 4th.
Heather McKay came 3rd in our rankings.

[The Dunster]

Tracey Wickham > Dawn Fraser.

[sh10]

I had never even heard of Heather McKay but clearly her record speaks for itself, geez

[baldrick]

Possibly the greatest cycling video ever


http://youtu.be/HhabgvIIXik

[belchardo]

That was pretty good. Down side is that apparently I'm even more of a princess with my bike than I realised. :D

[sammydog]

Sad that he suffered a spinal injury in a trials exhibition before filming finished and another rider had to complete it for him.

The first video was insane as well.

How he holds the wheels together I will never understand. my Mtb wheels stand up to much less, and my roadie wheels......they imploded riding up a hill last weekend. Speaking of which, anyone got a nice set they want to sell.

[q-money]

danny macaskill's bit in that is ****ing INSANE

re wheels - i ride mavic CXP-22s and i brutalise them on sydney roads. they can only be stopped by removing the head or destroying the brain

what brand are you riding? carbon?

[PC14]

Yep, good point.
Layne Beachley was a name thrown up. We gave her 4th.
Heather McKay came 3rd in our rankings.

Jacqui Cooper?

[The Dunster]

danny macaskill's bit in that is ****ing INSANE

re wheels - i ride mavic CXP-22s and i brutalise them on sydney roads. they can only be stopped by removing the head or destroying the brain

what brand are you riding? carbon?

The skill of the person building the wheels is far more important than the components used to build it. In general factory built wheels are usually woeful and the majority of shops couldn't build a wheel to save their life.

Most common problem I've found with factory built wheels is the complete lack of spoke tension. Some are so bad you can hear them rattle when they aren't even under load.

Re the video above; Colnago:wub:

[q-money]

yer those new colnagos with the discs are outrageous

can't wait to see your nibalis etc descending in the wet with them, will be epic

the new SRAM red gruppo with hydraulic brakes look brilliant as well

[hawk]

saw some dick cycling the esplande speers point. sif right of way will stop a squashed head.

[MFKS]

Australian cycling veteran Michael Rogers says his positive test to the banned substance clenbuterol might have been caused by contaminated food.
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The 33-year-old, a three-time world time trial champion and 2004 Olympic bronze medallist, provided the positive urine sample during his victory at the Japan Cup road race on October 20.

Rogers has been provisionally suspended by the UCI, the sport’s governing body.

But the Saxo-Tinkoff rider denies deliberate doping, fearing a contaminated food caused him to fail the test.

The UCI said Rogers’s provisional suspension would remain in force until a hearing convened by Cycling Australia determines whether he has committed an anti-doping rule violation.

Rogers competed in China a week before his failed test and the UCI and WADA have warned athletes in the past to exercise caution in the country due to the use of illicit use of the growth promoter in livestock there.

‘‘Michael Rogers immediately informed Saxo-Tinkoff’s management about the notification from the UCI,’’ the cycling team said in a statement on Wednesday.

‘‘The Australian explained to the team management that he never ingested the substance knowingly nor deliberately and fears that the adverse analytical finding origins [came] from a contaminated food source.’’

Rogers has the right to request and attend the analysis of his B sample.

A positive test to clenbuterol, which helps build muscle and burn fat, cost Alberto Contador his victory at the 2010 Tour de France.

Contador blamed contaminated meat for the positive test, but WADA rejected the Spaniard’s claim.

Rogers joined Contador at Team Saxo-Tinkoff last season from Team Sky.

Rogers, a veteran of nine Tour de France campaigns, left Sky after being named in evidence in the Lance Armstrong case as working with the American’s favoured doctor Michele Ferrari.

The Australian won three consecutive world time trial championships from 2003, the first of which was awarded to him after David Millar confessed to taking EPO.

Rogers was upgraded to bronze in the time trial at the 2004 Athens Olympics when American Tyler Hamilton was disqualified.

The Australian finished this season on a high by holding off a strong group of chasers to claim victory over 151.3kilometres at the Japan Cup in Utsunomiya.

The UCI said the decision to suspend Rogers was made in response to a report from the WADA-accredited laboratory in Tokyo indicating an ‘‘adverse analytical finding of clenbuterol’’ in a urine sample collected during the event.

The UCI announced Belgian rider Jonathan Breyne had also been suspended for supplying a positive test for clenbuterol at the Tour of Taihu Lake in China on November 5.

The positive tests come as a fresh blow to the credibility of the sport, which many cyclists insist has largely left behind its troubled past.
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‘‘The state of the sport generally is fantastic,’’ Australian ace Simon Gerrans said recently.

‘‘I’m really confident the sport is being raced clean now on a very large scale.’’

Former Australian cyclists Stuart O’Grady and Matt White this year admitted to doping during their careers but, unlike Rogers, they did not test positive in competition. AAP

Part of Bradley Wiggins team that won the TDF has been now caught out. Anyone still think Wiggins was clean??

[q-money]

waiting for the b sample yuh

[plague]

wot????????????

is this legit?
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/199q6vba587xagif/ku-xlarge.gif

[boz-monaut]

has anyone ever seen a MAMIL with any decent sort of pedalling technique?

knees out wide, swaying all over the shop, being fat, torso going up and down like they're climbing when they're going down a gentle slope

[q-money]

haha i know right, they all climb like gronks as well, horrible body position, too fat to get on the front wheel

i assume this will be me one day

[q-money]

how good was yesterday's road nationals btw

gerrans, evans, porte on the top step (y)

[sammydog]

Great race but Gerrans was always going to win if it was a bunch. Evans and Porte really had to drop him and that wasn't going to happen without the assistance of a team.

[q-money]

yeah no doubt, still good to see the big guns coming back and making it a serious event.

brutal race, only 41 finishers.

[GazFish35]

Thinking of getting a new bike.

Have a short ride to work, and wanna ride round with the kids.

Are Cell any good?

Thinking of their single speed for $200 (like the simplicity of them and the extra work I'll need to do getting home up a long steady hill) or pretending I live in surry hills and going for a custom coloured atrocity.

Not keen to spend too much 200-400.

http://www.cellbikes.com.au/custom/best-custom-fixie-bikes.html?v8


Advice?

[q-money]

as i said on the twitters they're not a bad pushy at all - just the wheels might need changing out if you ride it a lot - ask the cell dudes and they'll probably say the same and get you a stronger wheelset - look at this - http://www.cellbikes.com.au/Sturmey-Archer-S2-Duomatic-Hub-700C-Wheel

gives you an extra gear on the fixie as well

on a side note, the new cell omeo range looks absolutely brilliant for the price points - di2, full carbon etc on the 2.0 for under 3k - beaut looker as well. the 1.5 will come with an SRAM gruppo, dunno if black or red but i think i know what my next treddlie will be

http://www.cellbikes.com.au/2014-Omeo-2-0-side-ver1.jpg

[The Dunster]

Thinking of getting a new bike.

Have a short ride to work, and wanna ride round with the kids.

Are Cell any good?

Thinking of their single speed for $200 (like the simplicity of them and the extra work I'll need to do getting home up a long steady hill) or pretending I live in surry hills and going for a custom coloured atrocity.

Not keen to spend too much 200-400.

http://www.cellbikes.com.au/custom/best-custom-fixie-bikes.html?v8

Advice?

A frame thats made from 4130 and it has sealed hubs as well. You won't do any better than that for under $400.

Looks like a good buy.

[GazFish35]

thanks for the help.

q. i contacted cell, discolsed my weight, the response was.... dont treat it like a bmx and you'll be fine.


the custom colour option comes with free postage and if i make it hideous no-one will want to pinch it..... lime and yellow me thinks.

[q-money]

q. i contacted cell, discolsed my weight, the response was.... dont treat it like a bmx and you'll be fine.


:rof:

[sammydog]

Thinking of getting a new bike.

Have a short ride to work, and wanna ride round with the kids.

Are Cell any good?

Thinking of their single speed for $200 (like the simplicity of them and the extra work I'll need to do getting home up a long steady hill) or pretending I live in surry hills and going for a custom coloured atrocity.

Not keen to spend too much 200-400.

http://www.cellbikes.com.au/custom/best-custom-fixie-bikes.html?v8


Advice?

Haven't really gone through the spec, but is it a full fixie? my get old pretty quickly commuting if you can't coast at traffic lights, going Downhill etc.

[GazFish35]

The rear hub is flip-flop. Which I'm learning means it can be freewheel too. Which I'm planning to use it as.

I've also learnt the term "Clydesdale" thanks to q's concerns about the wheel set. :grin:
I do believe I'm a "super clydesdale"

[sammydog]

The rear hub is flip-flop. Which I'm learning means it can be freewheel too. Which I'm planning to use it as.

I've also learnt the term "Clydesdale" thanks to q's concerns about the wheel set. :grin:
I do believe I'm a "super clydesdale"

Just check the flip flop, they can be fixie both sides with different sprocket sizes.

Wheels can be an issue. I am by no means heavy, but destroy anything with less than a 30 spoke count pretty quickly.

[GazFish35]

FRAME 4130 Cr-Mo w/ rack and bottle cage mounts
FORK Hi-Ten Steel 1 1/8"
H/SET 1-1/8inch Heavy Duty Steel
B/B SET Cartridge 103mm/68mm
RIMS Deep Profile700c 32H w/ CNC Machined Sidewalls
F/HUB Sealed 32H Alloy Hi-Flange (White)
R/HUB Sealed 32H Alloy Hi-Flange (White) Flip-Flop w/ 16t Fixed Cog and 16t Freewheel
SPOKES 14G (White) Stainless Steel w/14mm Brass Nipples
TYRES CST 700x23c
TUBES 60mm Long Valve Presta
H/BAR Alloy Riser Bar
H/STEM Forged Alloy
SADDLE Aero Saddle w/ Chromeplate Rails
SEATPOST Zoom Alloy 26.0mm x 250mm
CHAINRING 1/8x46t 7075CNC Alloy
CHAIN KMC Z410 1/2x1/8x94links
PEDALS Wellgo LU-P8
B/LEVERS AlloyBMX-type
F/BRAKE Alloy Dual Pivot
R/BRAKE Alloy Dual Pivot



Mostly all Dutch to me.

[belchardo]

paris-Roubaix on this sunday night. 9:30pm, SBS.

[The Dunster]

cobblestones :wub:

Awesome race. Really tests both the equipment and the rider.