Coffee.
Shame I can't get a good cup in Newcastle :mad:
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Coffee.
Shame I can't get a good cup in Newcastle :mad:
I used to be a lover of JB and still go there occasionally, have a chat with PJ about football and get an ok cup of coffee. Then I spent a lot of time in Sydney for work and realised how shit everything up here is in comparison to the really good places down there. My problem with JB is their lack of consistency... some days I have the best coffee I have had in Newcastle, others I get something that I wouldn't be happy buying from Subway.
Reckon it went downhill as soon as Sasho left and they stopped sponsoring him :(
People had raved to me about rolador... but it's a bit out of the way for a train commute from Maitland <-> Newcastle when you have a tight schedule. Got off at Hamilton one day specifically to go and get a coffee and waited 10 minutes for the hottest, shittest tasting coffee I have ever had. Swear it was made with boiling water, had none of the milk creaminess about it and there was no crema to speak of.
People still rave about it though so I am guessing I just got it on one of those inconsistent days.
WFMB - an hour respite in the shit weather to get a round of DG in at Jesmond Park. wooo.
make your own coffee at home before you leave then
save yourself $3.50 a day
my folks drink between six to eight cups a day, hell they even have one right before they go to bed at night
I used to be a bit of a coffee snob but I've found it's best to make a strong one exactly as I like it at home before work, one or two at work (at whatever quality there is there) and save myself the $100 or so a month to pay for my mortgage
you really do get used to whatever quality you have, so it's best to save yourself the cash
The cafe on Bruce Street in Cooks Hill makes a nice coffee.
there are no cafes on Bruce St in Cooks Hill
I suspect that you mean pub and that you mean nice beer
Methinks a coffee thread maybe in order !
Frankies CooksHill does campos coffee
My Mrs (or Coffee Wench, as I refer to her) owns a cafe/deli in East Maito that I go to each morning, pretty damn good coffee..
Its amazing that between her and the three other girls there that could make the coffee, using the same ingredients, same machine, same everything. That each person makes a completely different tasting cup..
Why are you eating the cup?
Feel free to tell us where this is since I live in Maitland and could do with a good local drop.
Cino's in Greenhills itself is probably the best I have had up here but it has gotten to be pretty inconsistent as well. Oasis on High St in Maitland and Stillwater out at Lorn are both better than average and a hell of a lot more consistent than some other places. Lavenders in the mall is ok but the service has been shit the last few times we were there (told to hurry up with our orders 3s after sitting down so they could let the kitchen staff out, FFS) and coffee isn't good enough to make me overlook it.
On another note.. Can someone shed some light on the difference between Liquid Gold and Estabar for me..
I live in the same building, up above them. Any morning I can go downstairs and Estabar has a lineup out the door.. And yet Liquid Gold is a dead-set ghost town..
I have only had Estabar coffees when I'm hungover (so at that point in time, and mind-set, oh and after the 40 minute wait, I could be drinking a cup of liquid pig-shit and it would still be better than how i was feeling)..
Is there really such a difference in their coffees? Is it the fact Estabar has a bunch of hot hippie-esque chicks working? Is it just the art-faggery image of being seen at Estabar?
(After asking all of this, I know I could easily just purchase a coffee from both places and compare, but that would require me doing that outside of work time. Right now I'm getting paid to type this rubbish.. ;) )
Slices Deli in East Maitland.
My office is in East Maito so I've tried most of the places around here. Teale is ok but their service is slow as anything.. P'Chinos is decent and I used to frequent there a bit but it can depend on who you have serving you as to how it comes out. I used to go to DCM in Greenhills occasionally but that was only cause you could get it in a bucket-sized cup and got some free cinnamon donuts with it (the coffee was awful, hahah, I was choosing quantity over quality during that time)..
There are many variables other than those you've listed, that alliance on the flavor of the coffee.
How much coffee is being used, the tamp, pour rate, milk freshness, milk temperature, milk heating technique, milk pour, even the humidity in the room. How often the machine is reset too.
It's as technical as wine
Forgot about P'Chinos, it's pretty good as well... don't actually recall a bad coffee there but no mind blowingly good ones either.
I've apparently had friands from Slices Deli before... my wife says so so it must be true (that's how marriage is, right?). She also wonders why it is called Slices Deli and there aren't more slices available for purchase?
Worst coffee I have had up here was at New Capri. Wasn't expecting it to be great but was hoping for it to be better than it was. Have had better coffee from an International Roast tin :(
But if you take out as many of those variables as you can (such as having them make coffee one after the other so room humidity, machine reset, milk freshness are non issues), it really comes down to how good they are at making a coffee.
That's the bit that blows my mind at JB... I can have two coffess 3 hours apart and they are the best and worst coffees I have in Newcastle.
when you've got people that don't drink coffee making coffee, that's where your problem starts. an FATC* error.
*****wit at the controls
My manager suffers from similar issues (PICNIC, PEBKAC)...
Not sure if that is the problem with somewhere like JB though. PJ loves his coffee and some of the best and worst I have had there were made by him.
That's why the tamp and the way they heat the milk are so important.
Tamp too heavy and the coffee is bitter, too light and it's weak, uneven and the coffee mouse tails and you get something even worse.
If the milk isn't done right, the heat overpowers the coffee, and if stretched properly the micro bubbles help the flavored of the coffee come out more.
Have noticed too that if a coffee shop is very busy, the coffee never seems to be as nice. When it's quiet you usually get a good one. That is one thing I have noticed about JBs.
Remember one great sight at JBs when PJ and the boys were pulling the the real coffees and his missus was around the side serving free instant coffees to the pensioners who just finished a morning show in the Civic !
I had an excellent coffee with breakfast from Chaddies today. So good that I got another one to go and finished it off at work.
Anyone in newy roast their own beans?
Any coffee places or any individuals?
I know Coffee on Crown roast their own...
Too much effort. Just buy fresh. http://www.coffeecompany.com.au/
Are you calling me fat?!?!?!? :gent:
Tis sadly true :(
And yeah, probably... but unless it's during the ridiculously mad busy period at work, I am in the office more often than not and one of my mates roasts his own (or has a cousin that does or something...) so we drink that fairly often.
Sprocket roast there own but I have an issue with the one of the owners so they can gagf, we use peaberrys at work does the job alright
barrios in downtown mayfield is pretty good.
Not Novo but had awesome coffee in Shitney CBD today, Double Barrel in York St behind Wynyard Station. Loverly.