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Talkative lot you are.
Any tips?
Simba to dominate on their barely legal postage stamp pitch?
Olympic to be competitive and self destruct?
Charlie to win more than 1 game this year?
Advance to relocate to Merewether?
Mussy to relocate to Jesmond?
if anyone is interested in a mid week trial PM me (ZPL3)
We've already got a terrible field, why would we want to move to Jesmond?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonPablo
So with Mussy dropping out of ZL all together, do we see ZL2 & ZL3 combining to make a 14 team comp? Would be silly to have two 7 team comps.
Nothing wrong with 2x7 team comps still get 18 games with 3 byes
Issue is if any more pull out
Hearing another ZL3 side are looking shaky with numbersQuote:
Originally Posted by Swanky
Could someone please tell us what teams are in ZL2?
CharlestownQuote:
Originally Posted by mefa1984
Hamilton Olympic
Kahibah
New Lambton
Hunter Simba
Nelson Bay
Merewether
Muswellbrook (maybe)
Muswellbrook are out. Morriset have dropped down into our comp but the association are trying to get a team to go up to league 1 to replace them. So who knows where things will end up......
A month out from season start and they still can't figure out what's going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbery
Yep, definitely the combined Zone committee.
I dont see any team form the list above making the jump to ZL1 and being competitive, not at such short notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbery
Most teams are probably struggling for numbers, or already made any cuts.
A month out from competition and a club has all but pulled out of ZL1... what exactly do you want the combined Zone committee to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
At least they have asked for expressions of interest.
Admit that format that they're trying to push no longer works, and have some balls to change it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rawr.
There are teams within ZL2 that could easily compete against ZL1 teams yet they can't (for whatever reason) raise the numbers to enter an entire other grade in order to advance, so they never do.
Then over the years the shine of the competition rubs off the players in those teams, and they gradually care less and less about the ZL competiton because they see there's no point in trying to compete when you're never allowed to progress.
The Amateur football landscape has changed massively over the past 5 or so years. The cost and pressure of playing for no reward far outweighs peoples desire to sign up every year and we lose many players to other codes, or worse to nowhere.
Which would be solved by having a few different clubs having first grade teams in ZL1, where there are bountiful rewards for playing?Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
You also then push clubs that do have numbers for third grade to shunt off 15 players to an all age comp where they are segregated from the rest of the club.
So have ZPL with 3 grades then ZL1 to 3 with 2 grades.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyKplunk
Why should ZL1 clubs have to get rid of 3rd grade?Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Anyone interested in a trial game this Sunday?x 2 teams
Our trial fell through due to cricket needing the ground.
Only catch is we can’t host.
I dont agree with ditching 3rd grade, but think it needs to be consistent across all levels. Where ever a step up a grade is contingent on finding another grade, there is going to be issues. Also not real good for clubs like charlestown, get relegated and have to cut loose a grade. They aren't coming back if they managed promotion this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy;202***
I actually think 3rd grade needs a tweak to require a certain level of youth development, but that wont happen.
Easier for some teams to keep climbing because their numbers will only cover 2 grades? Maybe more clubs could enter if not needing a 3rd grade till ZPL. And paying big rego to run in 3rds is pretty ridic. Rather play 1sts in a grade lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy;202***
In mentioning these "maybes" I wouldnt want clubs to lose a close knit 3rds team. sucked when 3rds went to 23's a few years back.
You would then just create the same problem we have now between ZL2 to ZL1 and shift it to ZL1 to ZPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
I can't speak for other clubs but if we were to lose our 3rd grade it would hurt us big time, as many of our "clubmen" play there. This year we have had 65+ people show up to training, fortunately we have been able to form an All age side which is essentially our 4th grade.
I understand every club faces different factors into finding enough players due to various reasons but getting rid of 3rd grade in ZL1 would only be detrimental to the Zone Leagues. If anything it would be best to maybe try to slowy integrate 3rd into ZL2 over a few years.
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Originally Posted by Premy
Agreed - Why punish one club because another can't attract players? Maybe look at why they can't get players in the first place......
I personally think the whole structure needs reassessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Why not less clubs with more grades? Similar to local grade cricket.
or
Why not 2 grades from ZPL down? Why do ZPL need 3 grades. Whats the difference between ZPL 3rd grade and ZL3 1st grade?
There would be plenty of other ways to set it up that would have just as much chance as working as the current system which doesn't seem to be working for clubs.
In the end it needs to come back to how it should have been originally, the 3 associations joining together to help the smaller clubs in ZL2 & 3 build their systems and skill development so they can grow as a club in size and skill and be able to get the results to earn promotion into ZL1 and beyond.
In the meantime, it means there will be more AA sides at a higher level, which makes their competitions more meaningful, and helps the health of the clubs throughout the entire NNSWF area.
It ain't rocket science, but someone seems to think it is...
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Originally Posted by leftrightout
I was thinking along the lines of point 2. I'd rather see more clubs in ZL's and less filling 3rds. Pretty sure 3rds could go AA if needed without needing therapy and still cook a bbq.
Maybe Suburb need a Newfm or ZPL and ZL3 if their so full
Merewether getting beaten 3-2 by Toronto from Newfm is impressive if it's the case
They had a fair few guys from their firsts team out I was told. Was a stinking hot arvo for playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
1. Where did I mention too many AA?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonPablo
2. If there were more clubs in ZL AA wouldnt grow at the expense of some 3rds dropping, sorry going across to AA
ffs 2 many tards
Alright moving on
Why is it difficult to keep teams in this div? Only 2 grades etc. Is AA just much easier?
Volunteers are the issue with an all age team you dont need any you turn up and play the club has normally shut the canteen by then all you do is pack the ground up. With ZL side you need to set up, pack up run a canteen and need duty officers young kids these days are to good to help volunteer and run a clubQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk
No action here for a while???
Predictions after the trials and ffa results?
I predict a long winter for some of these teams hey.
My other predctions,not in any order. Or is it????
Simba
Olympic
Merweathers
Bald Eagles
Charleston
Kahibah
Bye
Nelsons Bay
Don’t you worry about The Bay.
You’ll hear The Pirates song many times this year.
Res
Olympic 1 J.Kitcher
Kahibah 2 N.McCallister C.Swift
1st Grade
Olympic 3 M.Stassi 2 D.Burchill
Kahibah 1 L.Keeping
and the red card count..............?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanky
1st GradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Charman
Kahibah 2 Olympic 1
Ressies
0-0
Hi All,
Please note that with the move to Novocastrian Park, New Lambton FC now do not have a liquor licence for our ZL2 Match Days. We are more than happy for opposing teams and supporters bring along their own beers (our rad sponsor the Blackbutt Hotel has a bottle-o just up the road), but make sure they are in cans as we are not permitted to have glass at the ground (like all sporting fields). Duty Officers will be on hand to ensure there are no glass bottles.
Hamilton Olympic v Merewether Advance has been moved from Islington to Darling St today
Hunter Simba are a joke to Newcastle football. Game abandoned against Merewether due to a player trying to fight a referee after a red card from a headbutt. Bench Players trying to fight merewether staff this isnt the first incident i’ve seen from this club. There isnt a place for it in our comp. immature, Disgusting behaviour
stupid crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by aidos