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Anyone bitching about our program, have a listen to the Soccer Stoppage Time podcast from this week. About 35 minutes in, the entire show gets sidetracked by discussion on the SFC u13's tour of Japan and the fact a bunch of parents received emails after their kids had left that they were cut from the program for the following season. After being told to move their kids to a specific school to help them in the program and paying thousands for the privilege.
Certainly interesting listening.
Football is a bidness.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
The point being made (fairly imo) is that ppl shouldn't be charged to participate in the elite programs because parents are being fleeced to participate which is pricing out better kids whose parents can't afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAM
The money is supposed to flow down the pyramid however in a lot of cases money is flowing up instead.
Rubbish... who pays for this elite program if the participants cant be charged then...Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
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Originally Posted by Guerny
You have quoted half a sentence to make your point.
At a stab i am thinking furns was making the point these so called elite program's are way overpriced and sold to starry eyed parents who get the sold the dream there kid could be the next Timi , for a price that is.
Ever since 2006 the administrators of the game in this country have been letting people use terms like pathway, elite and academies very loosely in order to charge outrageous fees for which they get there cut.
Cracks me up every time i see all the little ones over at Speers Pt in the EJ program and i think just how many teams are we going to be fielding in the national comp in years to come just to accommodate all these " emerging jets ". Or do we just have so many of them because it is a good money spinner. And there is no shortage of " my kids the best " type parents to buy the dream.
Yes its a overprices sham but hey we need to fund the game from the grassroots up right ?. Not like other well administered sports in the country where it is from the top down.
All IMO of course.
THis shit's been happening for 40 years in practically any sport that offers a big paycheck at the end of the day. Tennis is even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
made most of my points for me, cheers. Money should flow from the top down into the juniors, unfortunately in many cases the junior fees are also going towards funding silly wages in the senior teams in the divisions below the aleague.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
But the point still stands about elite programs charging parents ridiculous sums for kids that are never going to make it, while someone who may make the grade are overlooked because their parents don't feel like being fleeced out of thousands of dollars or simply can't afford it.
Instead of identifying talent, the programs are only identifying ways to separate money from unsuspecting parents thinking their kid should be the next Timmy.
quick question: how many of these 'elite' camps have official ties to the Jets?
for example, a friend of my kid is in the Jobe Wheelhouse run program. Is that an "official" Jets one?
Jobe's program is not Jets related
Rightly or wrongly these programs need funding to exist, maybe the kids in these programs are not ALL appropriately skilled to be in the program but its a catch 22, that funding still needs to be raised so a program exists for the kids that do warrant being involved.
If you went out and said there's only a min number of kids sufficiently skilled to be in one of these programs, there be insufficient funding and then no programs at all.
The bit that pisses me off is that the Jets will happily put their name to this but then provide nothing to maintain it, no funding, no assistance...
I'd like to see the club sponsor some of these "better kids whose parents can't afford it", if not as a community initiative then as an investment pathway.
my 2c,
G
As somebody mentioned earlier, not every player will play A league and a successful program will produce players worthy of senior caps every few years which right now we aren't doing. The thing that worries me is that the players with the greatest potential are overlooked for the program & the ones that do enter the system are massively mismanaged e.g. played out of position.
Soccer has always been bottom up.Quote:
Originally Posted by furns
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Originally Posted by MFKS
Just gotta look at the clowns running NNSW Football....there lies the answer to majority of your concerns! THEY KNOW EVERYTHING...just ask them :deadhorse:
My sister got quite the shock the other day
Her first born has got to school age and a few of his mates had signed up to play this winter in the local Us s
My nephew has asked mum dad if he can play with his mates as well
Now I have tried with this kid but he has had very little interest in football but now he looks like he has found the thing that would start his involvement in the game
My sister was taken back by the $350 rego fees due to play for a club that doesn't even have seniors in NPL or NEWFM
I would have to do some research to find what level their seniors are at that how far down the pecking order they are
Just armourer example of why the FFA and Governments are ****ing the game and country up
$350 a year for a 6 year old to have a kick about in winter
****ing joke really
A good idea from Simon Hill on a podcast last week - why don't the kids get a free season ticket to their local A-League club considering the amount of cash they are paying? GA only and they might bring mum and dad along.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Showing my age but KB United did similar back in the day. Junior players were given season passes.
What club is that?
The under 14's I coach pay $250 and get strip, training strip, hoodies, polo shirts, kit bags etc and they are community league. Whichever club that is ripping off the kids and their families.
It's seriously $350 for u/6?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Because it's less then half that in the ACT
Jesus that's a good deal....which club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
As much as I disagree with most of what you dribble you have my support on this one....$350 is a ****ing disgrace for any age unless everything is paid for by the club....gear, fees, equipment...should only need to buy boots and shin pads after that. What makes it more of a joke is the washouts during the season.....let people play it's a winner sport, rain and mud should be expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Actually $350 is a joke full stop.
Sth CardiffQuote:
Originally Posted by redwah