I'm not a betting man but I would be willing to bet with anyone that either Ritter or Chapman will not play next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by westjet
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I'm not a betting man but I would be willing to bet with anyone that either Ritter or Chapman will not play next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by westjet
Not enough outrage has been made of this. Dead set goose boots. A disc-race to defenders everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by la bazzle
Deans should be fired for this alone.
That would probably make you a betting man.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Anyone not retained in the starting line ( exception of Gallaway , poor taste in boots ) should punch GVE in the nose and ask why later.
gallaway motm
Worst boots in the league.
Just some food for thought.....
Mariners: Rogic/McGlichey
Adelaide: Vidosic/Ferreira
Sydney: ADP
Victory: Flores/Finkler
Roar: Nicholls/Broich
Phoenix: Ifill
Heart: Fred
Wanderers: Ono
Perth: Miller
Jets:?????
Not being sarcastic here but what point are you trying to make???Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
That we don't have the classy player in the centre of midfield we need to play the way we are trying to go down???
i initially thought he was pointing out good midfielders with visas, but then noticed nichols & vidosic was there.
is it #10s the other teams have that you're trying to point out?
What gives you the impression that we need a classy central midfielder to play the way GVE wants us to play? We should just get the 3 best holding midfielders we can get, play a back 7 and have our holding midfielders sit back when the fullbacks tuck up in the attacking third. At least that way we might not get destroyed on the counter down either flank every single week.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
GVE is a complete pretender, all talk.
Every other team has at least one or two players in the middle or just behind their striker/s with the creative nous to make things happen for their side.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Who have we got?
I thought most of the time we got destroyed on the counter was down to us coughing the ball up cheaply and getting countered with our fullbacks up the park providing an option in attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
ie Gol Gol's goal Archies goal etc Yau the game before.
A litany of us coughing up the ball cheaply and getting hammered on the counter.
Maybe the classy No 10 hanging on to the ball and dicatating play may stop us being on the attack one minute and then the next having Heskey and Griff kicking off again. Also may result in our attack playing better with more options.
But that's my point entirely... our cheap turnovers are almost always directly from the back or when we fail to get the knock down after a long hoof upfield. We don't utilise a classy #10. If we did, Ribeiro might have had more than a few hours of game time... but he certainly isn't big enough, fast enough or physical enough to fit into the GvE Triple H (Hoof to Heskey & Hope) gameplan.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Marko Jesic and Kantarovski and Jobe!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
You make a great point that I am hearing.
I always thought we need the big money player in midfield as opposed to Heskey. Others disagreed with me and thought it was better to get the man who scores goals.
Would love to see us make a play and seeing as we ain't bringing Griff home bring back Nicky Carle. Smurfs surely can't afford him with their squad so we should do the right thing and resign him from the Gulf League he is towelling it up in
I would just like to bring up a tactical question, i understand GVE wants to play a "high pressing, passing game" with build up starting at the back. Over the last few games i have really paid attention to particular movements by players and have noticed one area in particular that seems to be causing us issues.
As soon as our CB's get the ball the 2 fullbacks go flying up the wing away from the CB's, unfortunetly other coaches understand what we are doing and shut down Zad/other fellow screener, this leaves the CB's with 2 options...boot the shit out of it down to Heskey..or try to make a very dangerous pass to zad etc, i have seen this happen countless times, the pass gets intercepted or the lob gets headed straight back and the opposition hit us on the counter with only our CB's and screeners back to defend with our fullbacks chasing back like madmen as they were in no mans land.
What i don't understand is that when GVE can see this happening over and over why not make a tactical change and have the fullbacks play a little bit more traditional, stay reasonably squared off to the CB's when in possession, receive a simple pass and play down the line, relieving pressure from Zad etc enabling them to find space in the middle to retrieve and play on etc, the fullbacks can then still choose the correct time to overlap the wide guy etc using a little thing called their brain (which you think they'd have after years of getting professional coaching and being seen good enough to play in the A league)
GVE seems unable to identify and have the ability to change tactics when things aren't working.
^^ well said
Agreed, good point. I will say that a few of us have been pointing this out from the start of the season, so it's nothing new.
The fact that little, if anything has changed after 14 matches should temper any expectations we all have of this awful tactic changing anytime soon
I think what GVE "wants to play" needs to be taken with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imyourhero
Yep, myself and WolfMan (and a few others whose names escape me) have been saying the same thing for around 12 weeks. If you ignore the fact that GVE "wants to play" a certain way, you start to think that the fullbacks aren't actually a bunch of useless twats (except Gallaway, of course), are actually following the instructions they have been given to make that 2/3 on 1 situation as our sole tactic and our manager is a useless twat.Quote:
As soon as our CB's get the ball the 2 fullbacks go flying up the wing away from the CB's, unfortunetly other coaches understand what we are doing and shut down Zad/other fellow screener, this leaves the CB's with 2 options...boot the shit out of it down to Heskey..or try to make a very dangerous pass to zad etc, i have seen this happen countless times, the pass gets intercepted or the lob gets headed straight back and the opposition hit us on the counter with only our CB's and screeners back to defend with our fullbacks chasing back like madmen as they were in no mans land.
That would be a pretty obvious move... which, as you point out, makes it worrying that GVE hasn't thought of it. And that's actually a lie! The opening 30 minutes against Sydney, our fullbacks played deeper and it was one of two chunks of play this season that we haven't been absolutely horrendous. Somehow he thought it was a good idea to change it back entirely, fullbacks tucked in next to Goodwin and Virgili and we nearly fvcking lost to Sydney.Quote:
What i don't understand is that when GVE can see this happening over and over why not make a tactical change and have the fullbacks play a little bit more traditional, stay reasonably squared off to the CB's when in possession, receive a simple pass and play down the line, relieving pressure from Zad etc enabling them to find space in the middle to retrieve and play on etc, the fullbacks can then still choose the correct time to overlap the wide guy etc using a little thing called their brain (which you think they'd have after years of getting professional coaching and being seen good enough to play in the A league)
In conclusion, GVE Out.
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Originally Posted by pv4
Best thread Dorothy Dixer ever, you two.... :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution
Imyourhero = Kasey Wherman
Are you implying that i am in fact Kasey Wherman....or that KW is YOUR hero? haha
The first!
I assume GVE still has you running laps for pointing out his inabilities.
;)
If everybody who pointed out GVE had inabilities half of Newcastle would be doing laps.
explain van-eggroll!Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
sup pv4.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Heskey out through injury for 1.5 games, kids brought in, and like Newyrover pointed out last week, we have played much better. No more long balls, much more short passes and interchange between the attack and midfield.
No doubt Heskey is a quality player, surely one of the best if not the best forwards in the league, but the question has to be asked how much he is helping or hindering or game. There's no easy answer to it at this point though.
if you didn't see long balls tonight then I applaud you for putting your entire effort into creating active support atmosphere rather than watch the game. we played heaps of long ball. and we spent the majority of the game camped in a 20m long stretch of compressed field, and leeched off Brisbanes mistakes more than actually playing the ball.
Of your comments I've read tonight the only bit of truth was the bit about bridgy being a waste of space, if you think we played a lot of long ball tonight your watching a different game. There was no where near as much as of a few weeks ago and Brisbane tonight played the most hit and hope long balls I've seen since the glory days of Stewart Petrie and co at the mariners.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
So all that pressing in the first half that lead to 1000 chances, that didn't occur? All the build-up work between Gallaway, Goodwin, Griff, Brown, I just imagined that? Come on, even your Roar mates agree with this. I can see where this is headed though, no matter what the result or the performance, you will always be able to find negatives due to your personal dislike of Gary.
And fxxk all da haterz who have heaped shit on our squad of young players. Gallaway, Chapman, Reegz, Hoole, get some.
Yes I do realise this is an extremely opportunistic post made after our first win in 4 matches, and that Brisbane were very sloppy tonight, but pointing out and admitting these things would be far too rational for this thread.
GVE out
Good post and no you didn't miss it others are just hatersQuote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
Who would you rather? GVE or Paul lambert?
lambert every single time
At this present time, you can take the Scottish prat
leaving now...local bandwagon...all aboard !
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Originally Posted by pv4
Right Pv4 about the first 20 mins of hoof ball from us. We were poor. As soon as they realised Heskey wasn;t up front they started to try and pass the ball.
Long ball shit has to stop with or without Heskey
Why is it assumed that we have to play long balls if Heskey plays? The guy is clever with the ball at his feet, he's an intelligent player and he is more than capable of playing short balls in tight areas. WTF? Again, what sort of an assumption does Eggsy make with Heskey? the biggest worry about playingHeskey is that it plays with Gaz's insecurities and paranoia about having a senior and experienced player in the team who may question his 'vision'.
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Raw Boned Youngster
Same as when Peter Crouch is in any team. Players automatically lump it to his bonce. Stupidity
But can heskey do the robot?
http://gifsoup.com/download.php?id=1...obot-dance&s=o
Nah but i bet he can do the massive heskey's testies
That dance got Crouchie his missus!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Fish