Does anyone know if all clubs are playing in the knockout cup?I was told theres a few NPL and NL1 youth teams not in it.
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Does anyone know if all clubs are playing in the knockout cup?I was told theres a few NPL and NL1 youth teams not in it.
Yes, all teams were in draw. Just checked video again which had list of teams. Some teams have byes in most age groups as they drew community clubs with only 1 team entered.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Is there a cup draw available anywhere apart from the video?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reds Forever
Can’t find it on squadi (pile of shit) or anywhere else.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reds Forever
Worked out the confusion. No games involving community sides are in squadi as community football is not using squadi so squads and teams not uploaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Does anyone know whats going on with round 2 of the youth cup? Are there supposed to be games this weekend because theres no draw available and we were told the boys would be playing both weekends during the break from NPL fixtures.
Round 2 is 15th/16th July, pretty sure this weekend is free for Div 1 teams because Div2 teams have extra games to play each other twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Ok thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Makes sense now. Wish parents and players were communicated this, many could have gone away during break but held off expecting round 2 this weekend. Thought it was strange seeing NPL clubs arrange catch up games for this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Also explains why North Coast and Magic are not playing their round 1 game until 20th May. Although means both clubs have gone 3 weeks in between matches.
Maybe best to speak to your club, my son's club was given the full schedule at the start of the year, telling us to expect games first weekend of May.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reds Forever
Our club and the club we played in the first round of the knockout were both under the impression that both weekends off were going to have games played on them (last weekend and this weekend).Theres been a breakdown in communication along the lines there somewhere thats for sure.Im not blaming anyone because I dont know.I think the travel aspect has left a few clubs less than impressed.We heard that one club forfeited all grades,they were expected to travel 3 hours on relatively short notice,and another changed the date of their game to avoid doing a 4 hour trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Who forfeited that?s not idealQuote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Thornton did, 3 hours there, the draw was done a month ago so would say there was quite a bit of notice, but maybe they were only told the ground the week of since Mid Coast can play all over the place. Obviously Magic and Coffs could just play their league game as scheduled and count it as both. Similar to how Coffs 14s are doing it for the Pre-Season Cup final.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hacker
Its never been 3 hours to Taree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
if only they realised those kids do that trip every second week.
Mid Coast had games arranged for Port Mac which is 3 hours away.Quote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
Yeah game was at Port Mac, that's poor form though
A bit further, but still isn't that part of the fun of a tournament like that, the kids get to do something different and exciting. Book a caravan park bunk in to save money etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Probably not an opportunity many of them will get again. That's a shame, it's only the kids that end up missing out. Hopefully northern can think about that for the next time its run.
Caravans can be a lot of fun. It reminds me of the tv show Trailer Park Boys. Road trips for teams promote team bonding and that is a positive in my book. I can't wait to see the games for the next round. Go Valo!Quote:
Originally Posted by KITZ
Can anyone shed some light on how the youth cup works? On squadi the first round includes 18 teams/9 games and Edgeworth, Lambton, Belswans and Lakes aren?t in it.
Did these sides have a bye first round? I heard there were community teams involved in this comp too, so did they play them? And if so why isn?t it on squadi
Community teams that entered usually only had 1 age group. So any clubs from NPL or League One that drew a community side found most age groups with a bye. Squadi is not showing any teams that had a bye in round 1. Am not sure if any games involving community sides are in Squadi as they don't use it for Community football so won't have players in database.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABCDEF
I have just looked at the PYL club championship points table ( did it myself as there does not appear to be one provided by NNSW) and only 1 surprise IMO with the top 6, as Valo ranking 4th!
Not sure what they settled on for tier 2, but clubs like Adamstown, Azzurri, , New Lambton ( to be expected) Cooks Hill are MILES behind the others and have been for years.
It shows me that not much has changed in youth for years and with these clubs going to Tier 2 it won?t, although clubs like Valo & Maitland have made big gains
Valo recruited very well and have a good coaching setup.Maitland have been improving for years and have had kids leave for higher level opportunites,something Valo will have to contend with going forward.Azzuri and Adamstown suffer from lack of numbers.Cooks Hill and Lakes are both on really good trajectories.The one to watch going forward may be Edgeworth.Mid table in most grades but have a strong 13s team.Not sure thats where they want to be.New Lambton have had a tough introduction and year 2 may be even tougher.The 2nd tier will be really good for the whole youth structure,some clubs are just in denial about it.As long as they keep bringing enough clubs back up each year it wont hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad with football
I have Valo 5th. Some clubs have some extra catchup games but the bottom 6 should stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad with football
9-14th in order are
Weston Workers
Adamstown Rosebud
Lake Macquarie City
New Lambton
Charlestown Azzurri (no 16s)
Cooks Hill United
If its not too much trouble would you mind posting the rest of the list if you have it?Id be very interested to see which clubs are hovering around the 6-8 mark.Also I have heard comments about it being weighted with more points awarded to 18s and 16s.Does anyone know if this is true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldy
Valo being up there isn't that much of a surprise, they were about 6th or 7th last year and as someone said they recruited well to move up a couple positions. Their 13s were a good pick up bringing in most of a team from Charlestown, wonder if the Charlestown committee are kicking themselves for telling their dominant 12s team last year that they wouldn't be given retentions and everyone has to trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad with football
Weston to me is a big surprise, I know the stage isn't over yet but they have made some big strides over the past couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldy
It's not true, people really spread some silly stories around, had one TD ranting about how Mid Coast and North Coast will always stay up which isn't true either.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Probably won't matter to the 13s team provided the club stays top 8 every year. Seems the other ages have dropped off from where those players were last year. Most mid table except their 14s which are nearly last, what happened there they were 5th last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
Thanks for clearing that up.Id been told about the North Coast/Mid Coast thing as well but was sure that wasnt true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
When does the change over occur
There are 4 rounds to go but some clubs have washouts to catch up on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
You seem to be fairly well informed on all these matters,do you know if its true that clubs who dont field all age groups are getting sent to the 3rd tier at the cutoff or are they just going down to the 2nd tier if they are in the bottom 6 group?Its the other weird one I had heard around the traps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
No, that's false, though Northern have said that you can't be in NPL and not have all youth grades, clubs without full teams have a years grace to fill them the following year. Will be interesting to see if Northern follow through on that for Azzurri if Azzurri don't get full teams next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapdad
https://www.northernnswfootball.com....r-youth-league
Thanks for clearing that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
I think we can already see some unfortunate losers in the new pro/rel
Charlestown 14s are a very decent squad and have troubled a lot of bigger clubs, and I believe Weston 14s are 2nd on the ladder at the moment (with 3 games left to run)...
I feel sorry for those kids...and I imagine the net result will be those strong squads almost lifting and shifting entirely at the end of the season...or at least the core of those teams seperating to many different clubs. Same for any others in that basket (I haven't seen all the tables)...while, Edgeworth 14s having a very poor year apparently using a "get out of jail" card
Really should have been on an individual team basis...just like the Victorians run their youth system (as I talked about before)
I'm in and around the 13s and 14s this season,judging by the tables I've seen Weston should stay up if they have a decent last few rounds and yes their 14s are doing very well.Charestown are effective,they are mid table but havent beaten anyone above them on the table so far.I dont disagree that there may be hard done by teams out there but on the whole the system will work by dropping clubs down as long as plenty (4 isnt it) come back up to start next year.For the short term we have to give up any dreams of doing it by teams as the logistics just wont work even though I totally agree with you that it would be the best long term solution.The 2nd tier with the 6 NPL1 clubs and Bel Swans + South Cardiff should be really interesting and I can honestly see both NPL2 clubs making it to NPL the following year,and good on them thats how the system should work.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
Weston currently sitting in the last tier 1 spotQuote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
The NL1 club championship is pretty well finalised but there is still some interest in the NPL club championship. The remaining matches before the 3 group split have little meaning in NL1. Next we dive into the 3 group phase. Tier 1 and 2 will each have 8 teams and tier 3 only 6 (less in some age groups). Table resets and there is only one round so you have 7 or 5(-) games (depending on your tier) to make the finals.
The lack of referees being assigned in this "premier" competition indicates that NNSW need to get their shit together in regards to the draw. When fees are as high as they are, it is unacceptable for games to be refereed by a coach or official from the home club with no linesmen. Just not good enough.
Had to watch a club official line for a 1st grade game the other day, refs are a scarce resource.